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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 Coronavirus / Monday Morning Open Thread: Walk in Beauty

Monday Morning Open Thread: Walk in Beauty

by Anne Laurie|  March 30, 20207:00 am| 117 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus, Music, Open Threads

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My mom is asking me how to use Zoom.

Zoom is officially Facebook now.

— Hamza Shaban (@hshaban) March 30, 2020

Remember the old days* when Michael Bloomberg regularly bought up TV time for campaign ads? Or when candidates like Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar were competing for the presidential nomination?

* that was this month. Time is moving in strange ways.

— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) March 30, 2020

Some upcoming events of possible interest:

Join @HelenBranswell of @statnews, @laurahelmuth of @washingtonpost & new ed-in-chief of @sciam, and me for a @reddit AMA about #COVID19 and journalism. Monday, 12pm EDT https://t.co/f5XFvjO1NB Proof– pic.twitter.com/0y2jqhX3ow

— Carl Zimmer (@carlzimmer) March 29, 2020

Wow! These really are two of the smartest disaster historians out there. (Tried to get my former institution to hire both of them, in fact.) Will look forward to this interview on Monday. https://t.co/PN58YrsHNi

— Monica H Green (@monicaMedHist) March 28, 2020

You've got questions, we've got answers. Join Kristen Bell & special guests for the #KidsTogether Town Hall on all things Coronavirus this Monday at 7p/6c pic.twitter.com/Pw9miJ6FaR

— Nickelodeon (@Nickelodeon) March 27, 2020

David Dobrik will join other celebrity guests in a 1-hour Nickelodeon special about COVID-19. ‘#KidsTogether: A Nickelodeon Town Hall’ hosted by Kristen Bell will air Monday, March 30th at 7pm PT/10pm ET. pic.twitter.com/FmhG66mTgP

— VlogSquadReporter (@vlogsquadreport) March 28, 2020

And this guy, in the future, will confine his off-hour hobbies to “… building shelves, making furniture and doing some tiling”:

“An Australian astrophysicist has been admitted to hospital after getting four magnets stuck up his nose in an attempt to invent a device that stops people touching their faces during the coronavirus outbreak.” https://t.co/muBspygUke

— Hamza Shaban (@hshaban) March 30, 2020

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117Comments

  1. 1.

    Immanentize

    March 30, 2020 at 7:07 am

    BLECH

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    March 30, 2020 at 7:09 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  3. 3.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 7:10 am

    Jesus, insanity has infected even the astrophysical crowd…

  4. 4.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 7:12 am

    I think the NIckleodeon town hall is a great idea. Kid are also suppressing their worries and will have an opportunity to express them and get answers. Yay, Kristen!

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 7:17 am

    @debbie: The article at the Guardian is hilarious. I am still laughing my ass off.

    Especially this part:

    “My partner took me to the hospital that she works in because she wanted all her colleagues to laugh at me. The doctors thought it was quite funny, making comments like ‘This is an injury due to self-isolation and boredom.’”

  6. 6.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    March 30, 2020 at 7:19 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning. ?

  7. 7.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:19 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  8. 8.

    Immanentize

    March 30, 2020 at 7:21 am

    @debbie: I wish instead that the astrophysical would infect the Jesus crowd.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:22 am

    If you put the magnets in your nose backwards, your hands will be attracted to your face.  Major potential for operator error.

  10. 10.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 7:24 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    OMG. “At this point I ran out of magnets.” ?

  11. 11.

    Immanentize

    March 30, 2020 at 7:25 am

    @debbie: It sounds more like he ran out of mescaline.

  12. 12.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 30, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @Baud: Only if you have a magnetic personality.

  13. 13.

    Sloane Ranger

    March 30, 2020 at 7:27 am

    I see that Dominic Cummings has developed COVID 19 symptoms.

    If he has indeed caught the virus, it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 7:30 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Ouch. And NotMax isn’t even here yet.

  15. 15.

    satby

    March 30, 2020 at 7:30 am

    @rikyrah: @Steeplejack (phone): @Baud: weird, it lost the good morning, but I added it back in.

    @Immanentize: ?

  16. 16.

    satby

    March 30, 2020 at 7:33 am

    @Sloane Ranger: it is so unfair that British stupid leaders have caught it but ours haven’t.

  17. 17.

    satby

    March 30, 2020 at 7:34 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: oy!

  18. 18.

    satby

    March 30, 2020 at 7:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  if I was her, I would totally have done the same thing.

  19. 19.

    Melusine

    March 30, 2020 at 7:36 am

    ????????????????????????????????????????????

    How the fuck do magnets work anyway???

  20. 20.

    Lapassionara

    March 30, 2020 at 7:36 am

    Good morning, everyone. So the ad at the top of the page this morning, at least for me, is for a provider of hospice care. Hmmmm. Does my iPad know something I don’t know?

  21. 21.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 7:37 am

    For NotMax: Oy.

    AN OPEN LETTER TO DR. ANTHONY FAUCI ASKING FOR PASSOVER SEDER ADVICE

  22. 22.

    Betty Cracker

    March 30, 2020 at 7:37 am

    The D. Diamond tweet about warped perceptions of time in a single eventful month is so true. Was just reviewing something work-related from the first week of March that touches on the economy. It’s an artifact from another era now.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:37 am

    @satby:

    If I were him, I would have said nothing and lived with the magnets.

  24. 24.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 7:38 am

    @Immanentize:

    Sometimes an inquiring mind is the last thing one needs.

  25. 25.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 7:38 am

    @satby: Me too.

  26. 26.

    Ian R

    March 30, 2020 at 7:39 am

    @Sloane Ranger: the Johns Hopkins tracker says it’s happened to 735,558 nicer guys. And Rand Paul.

  27. 27.

    Betty Cracker

    March 30, 2020 at 7:40 am

    @debbie: Tangentially related:

    Yesterday, my dad pointed out that since he’ll be having seders alone with my mom, he’ll be the youngest at the table by a few months, and for the first time in over 70 years, he’ll get to ask the Four Questions. #ilovemyparents

    — (((Josh Malina))) (@JoshMalina) March 29, 2020

  28. 28.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 7:40 am

    @Baud: I have been “him”. It helps to be able to laugh at one’s foibles. Everybody else will. Might as well join in.

  29. 29.

    Amir Khalid

    March 30, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @satby:

    I’m not so sure that they won’t. I have a hunch that they aren’t very careful about social distancing and all that in the Trump White House.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:43 am

    @debbie:

    “If I put lamb’s blood on my front door, will coronavirus pass over me?”

  31. 31.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 7:43 am

    Checking the BJ overnight threads used to be my fun first-thing-in-the-morning activity. I guess that has to end. Along with everything else, I suppose.

  32. 32.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Me too, if you replace “nose” with “ass.”

  33. 33.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    What happened overnight?

  34. 34.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Heh, if my family decides to try teleSedering, they’ll all rush to their doors to welcome Elijah. Half will probably forget to wander back to their screens.

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 7:47 am

    @debbie: Heh.

  36. 36.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 7:48 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    B.C.  Before Covid.

  37. 37.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 7:50 am

    @Baud: I’m an ass all the time, just ask my wife.

  38. 38.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 30, 2020 at 7:53 am

    @debbie: When looking into space, no one can keep you from sticking magnets up your nose.

  39. 39.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 7:54 am

    @debbie: haa

  40. 40.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 30, 2020 at 7:57 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: “Denies further magnets” LMAO

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 30, 2020 at 7:59 am

    @Melusine: Dunno.  Ask an astrophysicist.

  42. 42.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 30, 2020 at 8:00 am

    @Baud: Baud! 2020!  Live with magnets on your nose!

  43. 43.

    satby

    March 30, 2020 at 8:01 am

    @Amir Khalid: they should already have it ?. One of Pence’s aides tested positive about a week ago.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    March 30, 2020 at 8:01 am

    @Baud: Not a lot of the aforementioned fun, and lots of coronavirus.

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 30, 2020 at 8:02 am

    @Baud: So let it be written, so let it be done.

  46. 46.

    WaterGirl

    March 30, 2020 at 8:02 am

    @Baud: I call it “in the before times”, but your’s is definitely shorter.

    Unfortunately, B.C. also stands for Betty Cracker, so if I were her I’m not sure I’d want to go with that one! :-)

  47. 47.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 8:03 am

    First thing this morning I read this..    Epstein is the person the right is using as validation that we are overreacting to the virus.   All I can say is wow.. what a trumpian jerk.  Oh, and the journalist makes him look like the idiot that he is.

    The Contrarian Cornavirus Theory that Informed the Trump Administration.   

  48. 48.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 8:04 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    He probably demands they stand too close to him just to prove it’s all a Democrat hoax. //

  49. 49.

    debbie

    March 30, 2020 at 8:07 am

    @JPL:

    He should not have been allowed to record the call. Just imagine what O’Keeffe will do with it.

  50. 50.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 30, 2020 at 8:07 am

    @debbie: “I’m luxurious and tremendous, and the Coronavirus is a total loser!  Now come close enough to kiss my ample orange ass.”

  51. 51.

    rikyrah

    March 30, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @satby:

    How do we know that they haven’t?

  52. 52.

    rikyrah

    March 30, 2020 at 8:08 am

    I'm not tweeting about Bernie Sanders anymore. His campaign is finished. The longer he stays in with no path the harsher history will judge him. It's time to fight the real enemy before us: Trump. Our focus must be on defeating him and his sycophants in Nov. LIves depend on it.— M. Mendoza Ferrer (@m_mendozaferrer) March 29, 2020

  53. 53.

    Baud

    March 30, 2020 at 8:10 am

    @WaterGirl: 

    Thanks.

  54. 54.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 8:10 am

    @debbie: I like the part when Epstein brags about Gates agreeing with him, and then Gates comment is read to him…    The guy just says well I misread it, like it was no big deal.

  55. 55.

    Spanky

    March 30, 2020 at 8:10 am

    Having known more than a few astrophysicists in my time, I’ll just say that I’m totally unsurprised.

  56. 56.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 8:12 am

    @Baud:

    Anne Laurie posts 3000 tweets, and the news is not good.

  57. 57.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 30, 2020 at 8:13 am

    The phrase “It ain’t astrophysics” takes on a whole new meaning.

  58. 58.

    WaterGirl

    March 30, 2020 at 8:14 am

    @rikyrah: It’s appalling, isn’t it, that our leaders are so awful that we can’t just dismiss the idea that they know damn good and well that they are killing people with their lies and misinformation about coronavirus, but they feel it’s worth it because they can kill people in the blue states by not giving them the resources they need?

  59. 59.

    Anne Laurie

    March 30, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @satby: they should already have it ?. One of Pence’s aides tested positive about a week ago.

    Remember the old joke about why lawyers are safe from sharks?

    Professional courtesy!

  60. 60.

    Betty Cracker

    March 30, 2020 at 8:25 am

    @JPL: I read that this morning too. Amazeballs. It’s unsurprising that a Hoover Institution hack has an unscientific “contrarian” take on the virus, but that his crackpot ravings came so close to driving public policy changes is alarming. Also unsurprising because Trump.

    Chotiner is a devastating interviewer. I sure wouldn’t want to go up against him for a stupid thing I’ve said. Did you read his take-down of Bret Easton Ellis? Brutal.

  61. 61.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 8:32 am

    Links which might be of aid to those experiencing strain from the new regimen.

    How to keep your sanity when you feel like the world is going crazy

    How to Work From Home Without Losing Your Mind

  62. 62.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 30, 2020 at 8:34 am

    More lovely music to brighten  your morning.

     

    My mum's neighbours – 4 young people who share a house – are choristers for Wells Cathedral. At evening they've been singing in their front garden for the street to hear. I believe this piece is by the English composer Gerald Finzi.#IsolationLife #music #SundayMotivation pic.twitter.com/4lNEuodp4B— Lydia Massiah?? (@lydia_massiah) March 29, 2020

  63. 63.

    Soprano2

    March 30, 2020 at 8:35 am

    I’m trying hard to control my impulse to post something to Facebook like “Now that their god has said COVID-19 is serious, perhaps all his worshipers will take it seriously”. I’ve got friends and family members among those sycophants, and I don’t want to alienate them, but I’m about done with worrying about hurting their little fee-fees. Our karaoke DJ was told a week ago that she most likely has it, but she can’t get a test to make sure because there aren’t enough tests because of their fucking “god”, so she’s sitting at home self-quarantined and not knowing for sure.  I just mentioned to my boss that the guy who cleans all the offices could be a problem; they’ve divided us up into groups and sections, and we’re supposed to stay in our section of the building as much as possible.  The guy we have who cleans the buildings goes everywhere!  What if he gets it, we’re completely screwed.  I told the boss’ boss he should hire a cleaning service before he hired this last guy, but he likes having someone to do his little projects for him.

  64. 64.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 8:37 am

    @Betty Cracker:  OMG…  Chotiner is good..    Thank you for the link…

    You came to the defense of Roseanne Barr, saying that she denied, after tweeting racist stuff about Valerie Jarrett, knowing Valerie Jarrett was black.

    Did she say that? That she didn’t know she was black?

    You say it in the book.

    Yeah, right, I quoted her.

  65. 65.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 8:39 am

    @Betty Cracker: The right wing has to go with the whackos they have not the ones they wish to have.

  66. 66.

    Geminid

    March 30, 2020 at 8:42 am

     

     

    @JPL: The Covid-19 crisis has provided many examples of smart people like Tom Friedman saying dumb things. The New Yorker interview of Richard Epstein that you cite is a doozie.

  67. 67.

    Betty Cracker

    March 30, 2020 at 8:43 am

    @JPL: Wasn’t that a thing of beauty? It sounded to me like Ellis wrote a really stupid, ill-conceived book to externalize a tedious, ongoing argument with his boyfriend, and damn, did Chotiner smash every premise to pieces. Made Ellis look like a gibbering moron. :)

  68. 68.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 8:43 am

    As for the astrophysicist, no secret that people will go to ridiculous lengths attempting to make themselves more … attractive.

  69. 69.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 30, 2020 at 8:45 am

    I know I’d be happier if I could make a loose schedule for myself to structure my day. Stuff like morning and afternoon walk (30 minutes each), writing time (2 hours), housework, cooking, maybe pick some project to learn, etc. It would take my mind off possibly getting very unpleasantly sick or possibly dying and lessen the time I spend surfing the web getting more and more anxious and angry. But I’m having trouble making myself do it.

    Partly I’d be at loose ends right now anyway since I just finished a book. I usually need a little break before I start a new project.

  70. 70.

    Amir Khalid

    March 30, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @Geminid:

    smart people like Tom Friedman

    Tom Friedman ⊄ smart people

  71. 71.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 8:47 am

    @Soprano2:“Now that their god….”

    I prefer to use the phrase, “Lord and Savior…” especially with the atheist among them.

  72. 72.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @NotMax: Double Ouch.

     

    ETA: good thing I don’t need magnets.

  73. 73.

    Spanky

    March 30, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @Geminid:smart people like Tom Friedman

    Wait. what?

  74. 74.

    scav

    March 30, 2020 at 8:50 am

    @Amir Khalid: That’s certainly the set theory I’m familiar with.

  75. 75.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 8:51 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: You could do what I did. Buy some acreage and vow to garden every available inch.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 8:52 am

    Weirdest thing yesterday – had a fleeting, deeply intense, gnawing craving for (of all things) salt water taffy. Lasted all of one minute and then was gone. Not that I keep it in the house, anyway, and haven’t eaten any for many decades.

  77. 77.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 30, 2020 at 8:53 am

    @Amir Khalid: Ooh, I just love set-theoretic notation.

  78. 78.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 8:56 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Do you have Zoom? I try to schedule a Zoom meeting with some good friend every day. The telephone would probably work just as well, though.

  79. 79.

    Geminid

    March 30, 2020 at 8:57 am

    @JPL: I think you live Va. like I do. Curious: Do you think Gov. Northam will need to order a full lockdown? From my observation people in rural Greene County and in Charlottesville are taking taking social distance guidance very seriously, and most businesses have closed. I drove a long country route home Friday afternoon and at 5pm the roads were almost empty. But I can only guess how things are in other places. Do you think Northam should pull the trigger on a full scale lockdown?

  80. 80.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @Betty Cracker: I have to say, I am about halfway thru that interview and the pain is getting unbearable.

    ETA

    This idea keeps coming up that a lot of people support Trump. Let’s grant that that is the case. How should that change how we respond to him?

    I don’t think at all.

    Yeah, we know.

  81. 81.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 30, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I could! My building also has these raised garden beds that residents can sign up to use, but it snowed last week, so it’s a little early to use that as a project.

     

    @zhena gogolia: I do have zoom. My writer group has been using it to meet every Wednesday night at our regular time. That bit of my old life is still happening, which is very comforting. I should make the effort to phone people too. I keep meaning to and then the day slips away with me doing nothing much.

  82. 82.

    Jeffro

    March 30, 2020 at 9:03 am

    @debbie: I read too quickly the first time through and saw it as ‘Nickelback town hall’.

    I was like, “Why would anyone want Nickelback hosting a town hall?”  But then again, in this crappy timeline, anything’s possible…

  83. 83.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 9:07 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Snow-schmo, just another challenge to overcome. :-)

  84. 84.

    Jeffro

    March 30, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @Geminid:

     

    @JPL: I’m here in central VA and while I think people are taking social distancing well, a) they need to take it more seriously (I’m still seeing all kinds of groups congregating in parks, on trails, on the Lawn, etc) and b) it’s not just Northam – all governors/the entire country need to do this for the entire month of April if we really want to ‘flatten the curve’.

    It’s deadly serious and people need to think of how they might bring it home to their loved ones, and/or what will happen if enough docs, nurses, cops, and EMTs get it (which they are starting to here).  Not good.

  85. 85.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 9:14 am

    As someone who is not fond of using the phone and does so only reluctantly, Zooming would drive me completely round the twist.

  86. 86.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 30, 2020 at 9:19 am

    @NotMax: Yo tambien, amigo.

  87. 87.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 9:28 am

    @NotMax:

    Oh, man, a Zoom meeting with you where we discuss mediocre 1930s movies would be so great.

  88. 88.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 9:29 am

    So has anyone discussed Emma (2020) yet? We rented it and watched it last night. It is a trip.

  89. 89.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @Geminid: I live in GA   There is a strong value in locking down the entire state because it would alleviate the pressure on individual mayors to make all the decisions.   Locally the mayor is being fed Richard Epstein type of garbage about the need to open up the restaurants and then on the other side those complaining about kids gathering together on sidewalks and in grassy areas.

    One of the areas here that folks are congregating at is a location where city property butts up against a national park.

  90. 90.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 30, 2020 at 9:36 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    It is a trip.

    A trip as in good and worth watching or as in don’t take the brown acid? Inquiring minds want to know.

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @zhena gogolia

    See that it includes Miranda Hart, so a plus right there.

  92. 92.

    Joey Maloney

    March 30, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @Geminid:

    smart people like Tom Friedman

    Is this a joke?

  93. 93.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Well, if you’re a Jane Austen fan it might not be your favorite adaptation of Emma — it’s rather cold, at least in the first half. But as a film it’s very enjoyable, with fantastic costumes, settings, and music. And Bill Nighy.

     

    @NotMax:  She’s one of the best things in it.

  94. 94.

    Fair Economist

    March 30, 2020 at 9:53 am

    @Sloane Ranger: Looks like the entire Tory party leadership got it. Take it in the chin, indeed.

  95. 95.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @zhena gogolia

    Watched the quirky, silly 40s B-film One Body Too Many yesterday, worth it primarily for seeing Bela Lugosi dipping his toes into comedy.

    Each time he asks “Anybody want a cup of coffee?” it becomes more humorous.

  96. 96.

    Geminid

    March 30, 2020 at 9:55 am

     

     

    @JPL: Sorry, now I remember that you have spoken of Georgia matters often. I have friends in Atlanta who are very much hunkered down, as well they should be. Sorry about your idiot governor; he doesn’t seem to have a lot going on upstairs.

  97. 97.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 10:01 am

    @NotMax:

    Sounds great.

  98. 98.

    Geminid

    March 30, 2020 at 10:01 am

    @Jeffro: Thanks. I work outside and alone, and I don’t need to  talk in person to my customers, but it is non-essential work and I think I’d better wrap up what I can this week, at least in Charlottesville.

  99. 99.

    Betty Cracker

    March 30, 2020 at 10:04 am

    @zhena gogolia: Haven’t seen it yet, but it’s on my list.

  100. 100.

    cliosfanboy

    March 30, 2020 at 10:16 am

    @Geminid: i lean against him doing it but he may have to.

  101. 101.

    Fair Economist

    March 30, 2020 at 10:19 am

    In terms of time being strange, I was wondering yesterday what the unemployment numbers were this week. Then I realized the 3.3 million number had been released only 3 days before. 5 fold times any before and 3 days later it feels like ancient history.

  102. 102.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 10:28 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    We’re big fans of Johnny Flynn, who plays Mr. Knightley. He also wrote and sings the song that plays over the end credits. He first caught our eye as Dobbin in the recent Vanity Fair adaptation — he’s a very soulful actor.

  103. 103.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 10:36 am

    @zhena gogolia

    Shame that Pete Postlethwaite is no more.Would have been a natural to fit into Austen adaptations.

    (Opportunity to recommend seeing him in Dickens’ Martin Chuzzlewit, available on Prime.)

  104. 104.

    japa21

    March 30, 2020 at 10:36 am

    @Fair Economist: The new numbers are supposed to be out Friday.  Wonder if they will be suppressed.

  105. 105.

    Miss Bianca

    March 30, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @zhena gogolia: We were supposed to be showing it next month at the movie theater. Le sigh. So it’s already out on DVD?

  106. 106.

    WaterGirl

    March 30, 2020 at 10:44 am

    @JPL: I just finished that article.  My main takeaway is that Richard Epstein was talking out of his ass, with his own made-up theories, stating things as facts that simply are not true, and not identifying his theories as his own pure speculation.

    And Trump listens as if it’s pure gospel.

  107. 107.

    NotMax

    March 30, 2020 at 10:59 am

    @WaterGirl

    Dolt 45 may be an undercover Pakled. It would explain a lot.

    ;)

  108. 108.

    joel hanes

    March 30, 2020 at 11:08 am

    @Geminid:

    Tom Friedman is not a smart person.

    The next six months will be critical in demonstrating that fact.

  109. 109.

    joel hanes

    March 30, 2020 at 11:13 am

    @WaterGirl:

    Richard Epstein was talking out of his ass

    Richard Epstein thinks he’s using “evolution” to justify his desired conclusions, but judging from his remarks,  Richard Epstein knows very little about evolution, and most of what he knows is wrong.   Some of it is not even wrong.

  110. 110.

    laura

    March 30, 2020 at 11:16 am

    @JPL: that’s what Chotiner is known for – allow the subject to hoist themself up on their own petard.

  111. 111.

    WaterGirl

    March 30, 2020 at 11:31 am

    @joel hanes: Absolutely.  He not only makes stuff up, but he extrapolates from situations that are very different from the current one and applies it to the current situation as if it were known fact.

    God/Dog save us from charlatans, sociopaths, and arrogant idiots.

  112. 112.

    JPL

    March 30, 2020 at 11:37 am

    @laura: It’s fascinating to me that someone like Epstein thinks so much about his personal brilliance, that he just assumes he can sell his crap to anyone.   Especially if that person is Chotiner.

  113. 113.

    Geminid

    March 30, 2020 at 11:54 am

    @joel hanes: Well, I’m guessing Friedman tested well, but I’ve never thought intelligence was as important as good sense, which seems to be distributed independent of IQ.

  114. 114.

    Just Chuck

    March 30, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    @Baud: You could call it a “Facepalm Assistance Device”.  Normally I need Twitter for that.

  115. 115.

    Just Chuck

    March 30, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    @joel hanes:

    The next six months will be critical in demonstrating that fact.

    ISWYDT

  116. 116.

    zhena gogolia

    March 30, 2020 at 2:09 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    No, I rented it on Amazon Prime.

  117. 117.

    brantl

    March 30, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @Betty Cracker: It isn’t very hard to make a clay pot look like a clay pot………

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