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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Okay, it’s worse than we thought…

Okay, it’s worse than we thought…

by Betty Cracker|  April 13, 20205:22 pm| 107 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

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Remember when we talked about the Trump recovery task force the other day and speculated that of course it will include the dregs of the financial world — the people who put the “douche” in “fiduciary” — including serially wrong clowns like Art Laffer and Larry Kudlow? Haha, it’s way worse than that!

For the record, these are the same people that were on the Council To Set In Motion A Series Of Fatal Mistakes That Will Close America. pic.twitter.com/EKpTK35dFm

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) April 13, 2020

It just gets worse and worse. Oh well. The inclusion of the knock-off bag and shoe peddler and the failed real estate princeling consort will be a helpful case study in future anti-nepotism legislation debates during the Biden administration.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    SW

    April 13, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    Well, the dead are being represented by Wilbur Ross.

  2. 2.

    Avalune

    April 13, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    Lmao I’ve been taking it easy on the media consumption including here but the sentence put the douche in fiduciary is A+

  3. 3.

    debbie

    April 13, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    I believe it was Roger Moore who brought it to our attention in the previous thread that this  group has been dubbed the Seven Scamurai.

  4. 4.

    Elizabelle

    April 13, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    @debbie:   Just coming here to post that.

    Meet your Seven Scamurai.

  5. 5.

    MattF

    April 13, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    Trump wants Ivanka as the VP nom.

  6. 6.

    Mark Haag

    April 13, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    graphic looks like a zoom meeting out of your nightmares

  7. 7.

    JPL

    April 13, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    Wilbur Ross did a bang up job for the Census..    It’s the one thing he had to do.

  8. 8.

    zhena gogolia

    April 13, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    Meanwhile, in what my husband just called the “smart states”:

    Massachusetts Joins Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and Delaware’s Multi-State Council to Get People Back to Work and Restore the Economy

    Posted on April 13, 2020

    (HARTFORD, CT) – Recognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont, New York Governor Andrew M. Cuomo, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf, Delaware Governor John Carney today announced Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker is joining the multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work. This announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state – will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.

  9. 9.

    Uncle Omar

    April 13, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    Moron Don strikes again.  BTW is Laffer on somebody else’s recovery panel.  And where the hell is Grover Norquist.  Either one of them could take over for Jared who is busy stealing medical supplies from the States.

  10. 10.

    zhena gogolia

    April 13, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    @Avalune:

    Betty always brings the thunder.

  11. 11.

    A Ghost to Most

    April 13, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    Apparently, he wasn’t deemed essential:

    A Virginia pastor who defiantly held a packed church service on March 22 has passed away after being infected with the coronavirus, the New York Post reports.

    During the service, Bishop Gerald O. Glenn told his congregation at Richmond’s New Deliverance Evangelistic Church to stand, defiantly showing the world how many were willing to show up the despite stay-at-home orders meant to help curb the virus’ spread.

    “I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus. You can quote me on that,” he said, adding that “people are healed” in his church.

    Glenn vowed to keep his church open unless he’s “in jail or the hospital.”

    “I am essential,” he said, adding, “I’m a preacher — I talk to God!”

    But on Sunday, the church announced that he had died just a week after testing positive for the virus.

  12. 12.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 13, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    @MattF: Yup.

  13. 13.

    Gloomyjim

    April 13, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    Looks as if the west coast is making it’s own plans.

    https://www.myoregon.gov/2020/04/13/california-oregon-washington-announce-western-states-pact/

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    the people who put the “douche” in “fiduciary”

    Hole Lee Shit! ?

  15. 15.

    Tom Levenson

    April 13, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    @Gloomyjim: I wonder how much of the nation’s population and GDP is contained w/in these two compacts?

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 13, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    Any Mainers around? Does Collins see these polls, or do you think she’s decided to go down with the trumptanic? (not that I’m complacent about either the WH or the Senate)

    Steven Dennis @StevenTDennis
    Ugly poll for Susan Collins in Maine:
    37% approval/52% disapproval.
    She was at 42% in the same poll in the fall.
    Trump’s approval in Maine in this poll: 36%.

    follow up tweet:

    Collins’ 37% is very different from Trump’s 36%; she’s at just 68% among Rs – though that is an improvement and still has 20% of Ds, though that’s much lower than she’s had in the past.

    if you ever wonder why we can’t have nice(r) things, remember that 20% of self-ID’d Dems in ME are still falling for her dithering-but-sincere-moderate schtick

  17. 17.

    Baud

    April 13, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    I wish they had named it the Council to Reopen American Promptly.

  18. 18.

    Gloomyjim

    April 13, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    @Tom Levenson: not sure exactly, but isn’t California itself like the 6th or 7th largest economy on the planet

     

    • Edited to add: and aren’t all these states paying more into the Fed than they receive?
  19. 19.

    Kristine

    April 13, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    @Tom Levenson: I wish Illinois could move to one of the coasts.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    April 13, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:

    “I am essential,” he said, adding, “I’m a preacher — I talk to God!”

    God decided He wanted a face-to-face meeting I guess.

  21. 21.

    debbie

    April 13, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @Gloomyjim:

    I heard the other day that it was the 5th largest.

  22. 22.

    Just One More Canuck

    April 13, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @SW:

    The dead have risen and they’re voting Republican

    And how do we nominate Betty C for a Nobel Prize in Literature

  23. 23.

    Baud

    April 13, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I have a soft spot for Maine and was sorry they spent eight years being LePage curious.

    Gives me hope that other states will see the light.

  24. 24.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    Joe Biden has won the Wisconsin primary by 2 to 1 in an election people were willing to die for.— Hillary Warned Us (@HillaryWarnedUs) April 13, 2020

  25. 25.

    dmsilev

    April 13, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: Since when are Republicans hungry for brains?

  26. 26.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    Click it if you can’t see the picture. :)

    pic.twitter.com/dnVkTkrx8P— Hillary Warned Us (@HillaryWarnedUs) April 13, 2020

  27. 27.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 13, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    The coordinating group

    Boy, if only there were some established mechanism by which the states could, together, receive health policy advice and strategic coordination..

  28. 28.

    A Ghost to Most

    April 13, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    @dmsilev: I prefer to think that the universe doesn’t like to be mocked by grifters.

  29. 29.

    phdesmond

    April 13, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    betty, loved this oneturn of phrase  —  “the people who put the “douche” in “fiduciary” “!

  30. 30.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    @Kristine: I……what?

  31. 31.

    Elizabelle

    April 13, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    @Baud:   Council on Restoring Productivity Securities Economy

    Bigly.

  32. 32.

    Just One More Canuck

    April 13, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    @Baud:

    When Canada’s two right wing parties merged, they were (briefly) called the Conservative Reform Alliance Party

    Comedians across our land rejoiced

  33. 33.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: If only there was a governing body that dealt with all 50 states…

  34. 34.

    JMG

    April 13, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    Saw a photoshop on Twitter (can’t remember where or I’d reproduce it) of the Fox image replacing Javanka et. al. with Scrooge McDuck, C. Montgomery Burns, the Monopoly Man, DiCaprio as Jay Gatsby, etc.

  35. 35.

    Jay C

    April 13, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    @Mark Haag:

    Someone pointed out that the background graphic on the “Council” looks like a toilet. And now I can’t unsee that (appropriate, though!).

  36. 36.

    zhena gogolia

    April 13, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Yep.

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @Jay C: Haha, it so does!

  38. 38.

    Kristine

    April 13, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I wish it could become part of one of the state consortiums. I don’t think any of our Midwest neighbors–except perhaps for Michigan or Minnesota–would be open to something like that.

  39. 39.

    Jay C

    April 13, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @Tom Levenson:

    I read that with the addition of Massachusetts to the East-coast group, they represent, at a minimum, 40% of the country’s GDP.

  40. 40.

    phdesmond

    April 13, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:   good one, thanks!

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    Wisconsin is coming in

  42. 42.

    Tom Levenson

    April 13, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    @Gloomyjim: Just did the calculation, using 2018 GDP.

    US as a whole $21,729,124*10^6–as in almost $22 trillion.

    The New England/Mid-Atlantic compact accounts for $4.26 trillion of that. The three left coast states add another ~$3.05 trillion.  So, in all, around 40% of the total.

  43. 43.

    Elizabelle

    April 13, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @dmsilev:  @A Ghost to Most:

    The local paper, the Richmond Times Dispatch Disgrace gave Pastor Glenn a complete tongue bath. No mention of that quote or the lack of social distancing.

    The local CBS station was a bit more informative. A daughter said he’d held the services for people who were “scared”, also mentioned his diverticulitis. Pastor’s widow is also sick with COVID19.

    Footage of his congregation praying for the pastor from the safety of their cars in a parking lot. With windows open.

  44. 44.

    Cowboy Diva

    April 13, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    <deleted for redundancy> Otherwise, my thoughts about the evils of nepotism seem so quaint now.

  45. 45.

    Baud

    April 13, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Explains the timing of Bernie’s endorsement.

  46. 46.

    A Ghost to Most

    April 13, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: and all this talk about regional alliances brings to mind a little tiff 160 years ago. What could possibly go wrong!?

  47. 47.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    April 13, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @Kristine:

    That thought has occurred to me too.

  48. 48.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    April 13, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    @Baud: Looks like he’s gonna lose every county, again.

  49. 49.

    ziggy

    April 13, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    @Gloomyjim: Looks as if the west coast is making it’s own plans.

    Perfect! glad to see that!

    Trump can put together all the “apprentice” style groups he wants, tease a “big bang” grand opening, line up all his experts behind him, but it’s meaningless. Our states will take care of us, all he can do is try and put a stick in the spokes.

  50. 50.

    Elizabelle

    April 13, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @Just One More Canuck:   The “Antonin Scalia School of Law” was briefly under consideration.  George Mason, of course.

  51. 51.

    zhena gogolia

    April 13, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    @Jay C:

    Yes, what else could it be?????

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle

    April 13, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:   Spectacular.

    Should be underneath Betty’s existing photo of the Concerned White Plutocrats.

  53. 53.

    cain

    April 13, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:

    Don’t put God to the test. I’m curious what his congregation things now.

  54. 54.

    laura

    April 13, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    The Best People America! The Best People. Can you even imagine resorting to that pack of craven Moran asskissers and simpletons to organize a funeral luncheon? Each busy shoving the other and currying favor and looting the treasury and every nickel in the others pockets. Yeah, those particular bumblefucks “reopening” our nation in pursuit of the reelection of emperor tang.

    Where’s my work pants and lunch bucket, I’m ready to do what these ninnies tell me to do double quick.

  55. 55.

    cain

    April 13, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    @Gloomyjim:

    Fuck yeah..  I’m glad of that. Cascadia rises! :-)

  56. 56.

    ziggy

    April 13, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    @Elizabelle: Council to Re-Open Amerika Kwickly.

  57. 57.

    MCA1

    April 13, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    @Kristine:  I’d be down for a Great Lakes consortium, even including Ohio.  That state’s the biggest anomaly in this experiment: has turned deep red electorally, but its Rep. governor, state health officials and others have been remarkably reality-based, even blunt, about their approach to this whole thing.  Downright functional, even.  Didn’t know that level of competence was still to be found in the R Party above local office.

    So Illinois, skip over Indiana, and add Michigan and Ohio.  That’s another 10% of the nation’s GDP.

  58. 58.

    Kristine

    April 13, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I seldom see Pritzker mentioned in articles about how the governors are filling in the leadership vacuum left by the Orange Blot, and I think he’s doing a pretty good job. Wondering if it’s yet another example of media coast bias.

  59. 59.

    Gloomyjim

    April 13, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: the Cascadian Movement as also taken note of that simularity.

  60. 60.

    jeffreyw

    April 13, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @Kristine: We are on the Mississippi coast.

  61. 61.

    gene108

    April 13, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Interesting grouping.

    Feels like some sort of game, if you picture it on a map, where a few interlinked areas get added too and those other areas get interlinked with other areas, and so on.

    Southern NJ, Philly and its ‘burbs, DE are linked, and then you look and add northern and central NJ and NY are liked, and CT is liked to NY in the south, and MA in the north, and then there’s lying liar state,* Rhode Island, which is only liked to MA.

      * Rhode Island is, in fact, not an island. Its name is deceptive, false advertising, if you will.

  62. 62.

    Martin

    April 13, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    Look on the bright side, Peter Navarro isn’t on there.

    But it speaks to just how untrusting the president is of anyone outside of about 2 dozen individuals. He couldn’t even find a single wingnut governor he trusted enough to put on the team.

    Even the Dr Strangelove war room had a larger (and arguably more qualified) brain trust at work.

  63. 63.

    Brachiator

    April 13, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    the people who put the “douche” in “fiduciary” —

    I am so stealing this for my next tax class.

    Goddam, Ivanka and Young Jared are on this panel as well?

    I wouldn’t let these two open a bag of popcorn.

  64. 64.

    Martin

    April 13, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    @gene108: It’s the Acela corridor – Boston to DC and all associated suburbs, with MD excluded because GOP governor.

  65. 65.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 13, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @gene108: It is, to use its full and correct name, The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. No lies told.

  66. 66.

    Duane

    April 13, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: We have a shitpile mobster conman who says a national disaster declaration, for all fifty states, for the first time ever is winning. Add that to your list of accomplishments Trumpov.

  67. 67.

    Martin

    April 13, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    @MattF: Which he can have now since he changed residency to Florida. Constitutionally, Pres and VP can’t be from the same state.

  68. 68.

    japa21

    April 13, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    @Kristine: I’d say he is doing an excellent job.  He definitely has ticked off the orange one. That right there is sufficient reason to approve of his work.

  69. 69.

    Sloane Ranger

    April 13, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    I don’t know if anyone is watching the Trump self justifying hour (otherwise known as the White House Coronavirus Briefing) but he’s just thrown Fox News under the truck. He’s run a series of excerpts from them as examples of the fake news media underplaying the danger of coronavirus when compared with his brave and decisive action in stopping travel from China!

  70. 70.

    NeenerNeener

    April 13, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    I saw what you did there.

     

    And you too, ziggy.

  71. 71.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 13, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: CBS WH reporter

    Kathryn Watson @ kathrynw5 · 5m
    The White House is playing what feels like a campaign ad in the briefing room

    per twitter, CNN and MSNBC have both dropped their coverage

  72. 72.

    Kent

    April 13, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    @JPL:Wilbur Ross did a bang up job for the Census..    It’s the one thing he had to do.

    Well, to be pedantic.  NOAA is also part of the DOC so he is in charge of climate science, the weather service, and the National Hurricane Center as well. They’ve been doing a bang-up job there as well.  Remember sharpie-gate and Puerto Rico?

  73. 73.

    gene108

    April 13, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    @Tom Levenson:

    US as a whole $21,729,124*10^6–as in almost $22 trillion.

    The New England/Mid-Atlantic compact accounts for $4.26 trillion of that. The three left coast states add another ~$3.05 trillion. So, in all, around 40% of the total.

    Based on your numbers, it’s about 1/3 of GDP for the East and West Coast compacts.

  74. 74.

    Kent

    April 13, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    @MCA1: Would you include Wisconsin, Minnesota, New York, and Pennsylvania?  They all touch the great lakes too.

  75. 75.

    prostratedragon

    April 13, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    @Kristine:  He has done pretty well so far, despite the handicaps of being a billionaire scion of a hotel-operating family (which should be mentioned more often just to get in somebody’s grill).

  76. 76.

    Barbara

    April 13, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    @Avalune:

    I’ve been taking it easy on the media consumption including here but the sentence put the douche in fiduciary is A+

    Came here to say the exact same thing!  The best laugh for today, although, I hate to say it, there wasn’t much competition for laughs today.

  77. 77.

    Kent

    April 13, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:if you ever wonder why we can’t have nice(r) things, remember that 20% of self-ID’d Dems in ME are still falling for her dithering-but-sincere-moderate schtick

    A bunch of them are probably Republican voters who just haven’t bothered to change their party registration as they have gotten older and more conservative.

  78. 78.

    gene108

    April 13, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @Martin:

    But, if they add MD, then they have to add DC, and VA.

    And once you add VA, where does it end? NC? SC? GA? Their western neighbors, like KY and TN or even AL?

    It’s not easy, where to draw the line.

    It’s the Acela corridor – Boston to DC and all associated suburbs, with MD excluded because GOP governor.

    I live in NJ. I’m familiar with the DC to Boston megalopolis.

  79. 79.

    neldob

    April 13, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    That photo is terrifying !@#$%*&! probably everyone already said that but … yikes. The end of the world could not be more chilling.

  80. 80.

    debbie

    April 13, 2020 at 6:25 pm

    @Sloane Ranger:

    He’s been upset with Fox for about a week, which is why I was thinking that toilet-like graphic up top might have been intentional on Fox’s part.

  81. 81.

    Miss Bianca

    April 13, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: Ooh, this ought to be interesting. Wonder if Fox will stop being Trump’s lapdog and finally turn around and sink its nasty fangs into Dear Leader?

  82. 82.

    Hoodie

    April 13, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    @gene108: Mid-Atlantic compact: MD, VA, NC

  83. 83.

    lgerard

    April 13, 2020 at 6:51 pm

    That second council will include top administration officials, doctors and representatives from companies and the private sector; the White House sought suggestions for names of those potential company representatives last week.

    Well that certainly didn’t happen. Evidently no one wants any part of this and trump was stuck with his family and some sycophantic employees.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    April 13, 2020 at 6:51 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Let us know when you see something about the results of Wisconsin Supreme Court race

    edit: Please.

  85. 85.

    hueyplong

    April 13, 2020 at 6:51 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Narrator:. No, they didn’t turn on Trump.  Instead, they ran numerous pieces about whether Joe Biden’s dementia is why he can’t remember helping the Chicoms unleash the virus on unsuspecting Mercans.

  86. 86.

    Another Scott

    April 13, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    @Martin: Someone left this hanging curveball out over the plate for ~ 45 minutes without pedantry??  I am disappoint.

    Constitutionally, Pres and VP can’t be from the same state.

    Not quite.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    The Twelfth Amendment stipulates that each elector must cast distinct votes for President and Vice President, instead of two votes for President. Additionally, electors may not vote for presidential and vice-presidential candidates who both reside in the elector’s state—at least one of them must be an inhabitant of another state.

    The home state of the electors where both candidates reside would be punished (presumably by not voting for the VP candidate), but there would be no impact on the other electors from different states.

    It’s a big deal for a state like Texas (W and Cheney) that have lots of electors.

    tl;dr – it leaves votes on the table, but isn’t unconstitutional.

    At least that’s my understanding. Corrections welcome.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  87. 87.

    bmoak

    April 13, 2020 at 6:58 pm

    @gene108:

    The official name of the state is Rhode Island & Providence Plantations.

  88. 88.

    Mike in NC

    April 13, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    “Council to Ransack America” was rejected by focus groups. With JarJar in charge, failure will occur on Day One.

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 13, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    @Kent: There already is a consortium of Great Lakes states.  It also includes the Canadian provinces the border the lakes.

  90. 90.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:08 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: Why – a war between the states! ?

  91. 91.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 13, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: Trump doesn’t like Fox anymore, OANN is his new heartthrob.

  92. 92.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    @jeffreyw: Haha

  93. 93.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    @Brachiator: I wouldn’t let any of these fuckers open an empty bag.

  94. 94.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    @Duane: Yup.  It’s a lottery that you actually don’t want to win.

    Btw, anyone thinking of 5 numbers between 1 and 45?

  95. 95.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    @japa21: Pritzker is doing a damn good job under very very trying circumstances, and I will slap anyone with a fish who says otherwise.

  96. 96.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: Wow.  Dump is such a crazy addict that Faux News is no longer nutty enough to give him his high.

  97. 97.

    Brachiator

    April 13, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    I wouldn’t let any of these fuckers open an empty bag.

    Ha! You nailed it.

  98. 98.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    @prostratedragon:

    (which should be mentioned more often just to get in somebody’s grill). 

    Ha!

  99. 99.

    japa21

    April 13, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: Just checked. With 50% in, the good one is beating the bad one 53-47.

  100. 100.

    japa21

    April 13, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: He has since he was inaugurated, even if Illinois’ credit rating is likely to be reduced to junk bond status.  I think he has surprised a lot of liberals.

  101. 101.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    @WaterGirl: I’m watching the Democratic primary from the The USA Today, but I can search for the WSC race.

    Or this! Woo!

    It's looking like the Democrat just flipped a Republican Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin. https://t.co/S9OAH18IXu— Hillary Warned Us (@HillaryWarnedUs) April 13, 2020

  102. 102.

    MCA1

    April 13, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    @Kent: Yeah, I guess maybe “Central Great Lakes” would be more apt.  Perhaps “Eastern 2/3 of the Traditional Big Ten.”

    Practically, though, yes, if Minnesota wants in then great.  Call it the “Rational Central States Consortium.”  Can’t trust Wisconsin right now, though, beyond the governor.  East of OH they’ve already got their own thing.

    Of course, maybe a governmental body responsible for the collective interests of all 50 states would be a better idea.  Hmmm.

  103. 103.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 13, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @japa21: Agreed. (Though he was bound to be better than Governor Hedgefund).

    I hadn’t been paying close attention to the governorship until this f’ing pandemic because we shouldn’t have to babysit our governments to make sure they don’t burn the place down.

    (Not yelling at you, and fuck Dump.)

    I still don’t know what the IL General Assembly is up to, but in Democratic hands, I feel I don’t need to watch them.

  104. 104.

    The Lodger

    April 13, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @Martin: So… Charlie Baker is in and Larry Hogan is out? I don’t expect that to last long.

  105. 105.

    different-church-lady

    April 13, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    It’s like he just fuckin’ looked around the room and said, “OK, it’s you guys, we’re done here.” Laziest goddamned president EVER.

  106. 106.

    Bill Arnold

    April 13, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    @Sloane Ranger:

    he’s just thrown Fox News under the truck. He’s run a series of excerpts from them as examples of the fake news media underplaying the danger of coronavirus when compared with his brave and decisive action in stopping travel from China!

    I’ll assume that the press will be calling him on that one:
    NYT: Nearly 40k flew to U.S. from China after Trump’s coronavirus travel ban (Apr 4, 2020, Orion Rummler)

  107. 107.

    majellan

    April 13, 2020 at 11:55 pm

    @Kristine:  Chicagoan here: we dodged a large bullet by getting Gov. Hedge-fund out when we did. h/t @Mr_Electrico

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