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You are here: Home / Gun Issues / Ammosexuals / And The World Didn’t End

And The World Didn’t End

by @heymistermix.com|  May 2, 202010:56 am| 131 Comments

This post is in: Ammosexuals, Gun nuts

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This happened yesterday:

TORONTO — The Canadian government on Friday announced an immediate ban on some 1,500 makes and models of “military-grade” assault weapons, including two models used by the gunman who killed 22 people last month in rural Nova Scotia during the country’s deadliest mass shooting.
“These weapons were designed for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill the largest amount of people in the shortest amount of time,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said during a news conference in Ottawa on Friday that began with him listing several mass shootings in the country’s history.

We’re all here today — well, most of us — the sun has gone on shining and the sea still rushes to shore, so I’m assuming this was not the end of the world, though I’m sure the whining, moaning, caterwauling and bitching of the gun strokers of the True North will make you think otherwise.

Gun owners will have two years to turn in their weapons, and they will receive “fair compensation”. Sounds more than fair to me.

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  1. 1.

    MattF

    May 2, 2020 at 11:05 am

    Alex Jones, opposing social distancing, endorses cannibalism. No link.

  2. 2.

    SFAW

    May 2, 2020 at 11:07 am

    I think, in order to protect the sanctity of marriage Second Amendment, the USofA needs to invade Canadia, and impose suggest they apply certain parts of our Constitution. Well, actually, only one specific part. Because if our neighbor is allows gay marriage infringing on the right to bear arms, then MY marriage right to bear arms is damaged.

  3. 3.

    mali muso

    May 2, 2020 at 11:07 am

    Reason number the elebentyth that we are planning to move north.  This type of quick and sensible action only solidifies that decision.

  4. 4.

    laura

    May 2, 2020 at 11:12 am

    Wish we could get some of that action here. I’d trade trump or any other random republican -even all of them, for a bold, decisive Justin Trudeau.

  5. 5.

    LarrytheRed

    May 2, 2020 at 11:17 am

    Pistols, shotguns, and hunting rifles, period, are plenty enough.. If all you want is to strut around publicly with your semi-auto assault rifle, too bad.

  6. 6.

    debbie

    May 2, 2020 at 11:22 am

    I have a dream of going to the Statehouse, standing in front of the protesters, and yelling that without their guns, they’d just be whiny pussies. Wonder if I’d die?

  7. 7.

    Mike in NC

    May 2, 2020 at 11:28 am

    @debbie: If somebody threw a firecracker at them, the protesters would scatter like cockroaches.

  8. 8.

    Amir Khalid

    May 2, 2020 at 11:28 am

    @debbie:

    They’re already whiny pussies.

  9. 9.

    AM in NC

    May 2, 2020 at 11:31 am

    @debbie: except NOT pussies, which are some of the strongest, most flexible, and resilient things on the planet.  More like wimpy little dicks, I’d say – one swift kick, and it’s all over.

  10. 10.

    debbie

    May 2, 2020 at 11:35 am

    @AM in NC:

    I’d say, “What is there to kick?” ?

  11. 11.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 11:40 am

    Maybe we can do something to make guns less “manly,” like require guns to be magenta.

  12. 12.

    donnah

    May 2, 2020 at 11:43 am

    I have friends in Edmonton who are smart and liberal-minded. They can’t believe we have Trump as our president and often text me to see if I’m okay in the midst of all of his chaos. They alternate between pitying us and wondering how the hell he got to be president.

    I just tell them that most of us despise him and the rest of the Republicans, and also that I would appreciate it very much if they would save me a spare room as a refuge sometime.

  13. 13.

    Shalimar

    May 2, 2020 at 11:48 am

    @MattF: Alex Jones has a year of emergency preparedness food he would like to sell you for $3000 so you can be like him and avoid cannibalism.

  14. 14.

    Immanentize

    May 2, 2020 at 11:48 am

    @debbie: I want to go to the statehouse where they are prancing and throw firecrackers at them.

  15. 15.

    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)

    May 2, 2020 at 11:49 am

    @donnah: My uncle Mark lives in Edmonton and often bitches on Facebook about the UCP winning control in Alberta.

    Maybe Ontario would be better?

  16. 16.

    Elizabelle

    May 2, 2020 at 11:53 am

    It’s fascinating that mass murders are down, since we’re under lockdown.  And wingnuts’ homes are not being attacked daily by home invaders and gangbangers.  No school, no school shootings.

    In fact, the only mass murder in months was 23 dead in Nova Scotia, and Canada banned military grade weapons less than a month later.

    The Second Amendment has killed more Americans than Vietnam, year after year after year.

    I am going to be hopeful and think we can get rid of it in my lifetime.  It’s ridiculous.  The gun humpers may have the gun arsenals, but there are so many more of us.  We can outvote them.  We have to.

    These Michigan militia jagoffs and all the other dipshits, roaming around in camo and guns.  Morons, and fewer in number than they’d like us to believe

    It’s public health.  We have to do better.

  17. 17.

    Shalimar

    May 2, 2020 at 11:56 am

    @Immanentize: What I would like to see are large Black Lives Matter demonstrations at capitals where everyone brings Super Soakers.  Less chance of loss of life than having guns, but you still know police would react far worse than they do to the militia loons.

  18. 18.

    rp

    May 2, 2020 at 11:57 am

    TFW when you hear the blue angels flying over your house in DC and for a brief moment you think “hey maybe the military is staging a coup and we’ll be done with trump.”

  19. 19.

    Trabb's Boy

    May 2, 2020 at 11:58 am

    They were very heavily regulated already.  Plus, the NRA has lost its propaganda funds, so there is not likely to be a groundswell of outrage.  But it’s good to make the statement.  Most of these weapons are smuggled from the U.S., and this gives the police better offences to charge people with beyond just failure to register, in cases where semi-automatic guns are found during a raid.

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    May 2, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    @rp: probably not too bad an outcome at this point.

  21. 21.

    Jeffro

    May 2, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    @Shalimar: I’d like to see large numbers of armed Black Lives Matter activists up in the balconies of red state legislatures and in the White House driveway too while we’re at it.

    Might help the TCNJs clarify their thinking toot suite…

  22. 22.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    @rp: @Jeffro: I assume there is at least an element of tongue in cheek here, but no.  We want to win in November.  We don’t want a coup.

  23. 23.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    May 2, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    If people really want to shoot assault rifles, I wouldn’t have a problem with gun ranges owning these for patrons to fire.

  24. 24.

    rp

    May 2, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    Mostly tongue in cheek…mostly.

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    @LarrytheRed:

    Do you think that if we allowed public nudity we could allow them to strut around with everything hanging out, proving what sort of men they are without having to risk them being able to kill 20-30 people in a short time with a 100 round magazine? Or would the real dick show what wankers they are?

  26. 26.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): They want to own military looking weapons.

  27. 27.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @Ruckus: Dear god, no.

  28. 28.

    hells littlest angel

    May 2, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    Our problem is that we have fetishized a constitution which is really rather mediocre

  29. 29.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    @hells littlest angel: Who is this “we” you speak of?

  30. 30.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You aren’t looking at the BIG picture are you?

    Think for a moment. If that were offered as the only alternative, they would never leave their homes….. Because it would show exactly who and what they are…..

    OK and yes it would be well beyond disgusting, but deadly? I think not.

  31. 31.

    hells littlest angel

    May 2, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Americans. Not unanimously, obviously. But it’s not just right-wing crackpots. Plenty of normal people mindlessly proclaim ours to be perfect, the greatest ever.

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    @Ruckus: I stand by my answer.

  33. 33.

    Another Scott

    May 2, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    I have no great insights on the specifics of what to do about it, but these cowards who have to go out in public brandishing their guns (and that’s what they’re doing – they’re trying to intimidate other people) is a big problem.  Good for Trudeau.

    Probably relatedly, I’ve been unpleasantly surprised that confirmed COVID-19 cased in my neck of the woods (Virginia) have pretty much been on a constant upward slope for weeks (with some noise) on the JH tracker.  There’s no sign of curve-flattening here.  This is in contrast with data from other southern states showing much more noise and maybe (or maybe not) signs of being past a peak.  Maybe it’s a rural vs urban thing or differences in the details of who gets tested or demographics or …  But it’s disconcerting.  We need more, and better quality, data.  There’s still far too little testing.

    Grrr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    @hells littlest angel: The majority of Americans want gun control and don’t see the Constitution as an obstacle.

  35. 35.

    Skepticat

    May 2, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    My favorite part was his saying, “Canadians deserve more than thoughts and prayers.” My Canadian friends are beyond horrified by ______, and several have made sincere offers to sponsor me for citizenship. Plus one of my grandmothers was Canadian, so I have that going for me.

  36. 36.

    trnc

    May 2, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    @laura: Wish we could get some of that action here. I’d trade trump or any other random republican -even all of them, for a bold, decisive Justin Trudeau.

    I would trade DT, etc for a bag of smelly garbage and know I came out ahead in that deal. Also would not turn down a competent leader from basically anywhere.

  37. 37.

    PenAndKey

    May 2, 2020 at 12:33 pm

    I know I sound like a broken record on this topic, but goddamn do I wish I could convince my wife to move, and that I had a clue how to go about getting a provincial nomination so I could bump my CRS score up high enough to get a permanent resident status there. I’m in Wisconsin and it’s literally a half day drive to Canada from my house. Some days I look at the Wisconsin legislature and US Federal government and it feels like I’m living in East Germany during the Cold War. Today? Today is one of those days.

  38. 38.

    trnc

    May 2, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: They want to own military looking weapons.

    They also want everyone to know they own those weapons (open carry), unless they’re asked to register them, at which point it’s supposed to be totes sekret.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    @trnc:

    Also would not turn down a competent leader from basically anywhere.

     

    Provided they follow email best practices, I agree.

  40. 40.

    Mandalay

    May 2, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    I loathe Boris Johnson, in part because of his past recklessness and raw stupidity over the danger of the coronavirus, but this was nice….

    Boris Johnson and his fiancee Carrie Symonds have named their baby boy Wilfred Lawrie Nicholas Johnson…
    …Ms Symonds added that their son’s other middle name, Nicholas, is a tribute to “Dr Nick Price and Dr Nick Hart – the two doctors that saved Boris’ life last month”.

  41. 41.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You will notice I didn’t say you were wrong did I?

    Had a buddy of several decades, he passed a few years ago, who was equipped like a porn star. His ex wife is known for her comment that owning and driving a race car did not make one a great racing driver. She was obviously speaking metaphorically.

    Just pointing out the obvious, what the guns are really about. And I wonder what would it be like that if they wanted to carry those weapons in public, they would have to take a course of 16 weeks, run by the USMC bootcamp/advanced infantry training company commanders, the structure/contents of the training would be whatever the USMC thought would be reasonable.

  42. 42.

    Jeffro

    May 2, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: mostly tongue in cheek, yes

  43. 43.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    So Tara Reade was not booked for Fox News.   When the NYTimes issues a correction, they might start to realize the woman is a liar.

  44. 44.

    Just Chuck

    May 2, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    @Ruckus: They’ll be disappointed when they find the Corps doesn’t actually let you sleep with your rifle.

  45. 45.

    Just Chuck

    May 2, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    @JPL: To say nothing of that she’s not credible enough to even get on Fox News.

  46. 46.

    Ohio Mom

    May 2, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    Pen and Key: I am jealous. I looked at a “So you want to move to Canada” site during the GW years and immediately saw that my family could never qualify. It’s a great option to have. Maybe your wife will eventually come around.

    Then there was a time I learned that my cousin’s Ditto-head idiot husband could move to Ireland — I knew he had Irish (and Polish) ancestors but before he mentioned it, I hadn’t known about the Irish government’s offer to let descendants of emigrants repatriate (if that is the right word). Of everyone I’ve ever known, he deserves this option less than anyone. Grrr…

  47. 47.

    Anya

    May 2, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    Meanwhile in America, we can’t even arrest bunch of heavily armed terrorists who occupied a state house and threatened a governor who was locked in her office. This is how far apart we are from the rest of the world.

  48. 48.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    @Just Chuck: She was scheduled

    NEWS – Tara Reade abruptly canceled the interview she was scheduled to record on Friday afternoon with Chris Wallace for @FoxNewsSunday, to air Sunday morning. Reade told Fox on Friday, sometime after @JoeBiden‘s interview wit

    Twitter Feed   Edward Isaac Dover

    https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1256626314787852289

    sorry for the naked link…

  49. 49.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 2, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    @Just Chuck:

    Someone on twitter says Reade now says she didn’t file a formal complaint against Biden. Maybe she just complained? I don’t know. The tweeter didn’t provide a source.

    Anyway, if that’s the case, why look at Biden’s papers?

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    May 2, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    @Just Chuck:

    Tick-toc, please note the looming expiration of your fifteen minutes.

    I also breathlessly await men’s-righters to loudly defend Joe Biden from these assertions.

    Narrator: this will not happen.

    No? Gosh, do they suddenly believe the woman? What could be different, this time?

  51. 51.

    mali muso

    May 2, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    @PenAndKey: I’m sure you have thought of this, but another option might be for you or the wife to go to grad school there and therefore qualify for a student visa? Then afterwards, get into a stream that gives points for Canadian education?

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    May 2, 2020 at 1:11 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The Constitution isn’t the obstacle. Stupid, ahistorical, and clearly incorrect judicial interpretations of the Constitution are the problem.

  53. 53.

    Citizen Alan

    May 2, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    For me, the most psychologically damaging thing I feel right now is that I am simultaneously bitter about the fact that I let my mother talk me out of moving to Canada in 2005 (after the 2004 election basically caused me to lose all faith in America) because “It’ll just kill your daddy!” and also guilt over the fact that I feel so bitter towards my own mother and the rest of my family. (My dad passed away in 2013.)

    This is the level of parochialism I grew up with: Out of my entire extended family of 20 or so counties, I am the only one to ever live more than 2 hours away from the county where all the other family members live for any length of time. And presently, I only live 30 minutes away because of a job opportunity I couldn’t turn down.

    A 50-year-old man shouldn’t feel bitter about doing the right thing for his elderly parents, but I do.

  54. 54.

    JMG

    May 2, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Two-hundred-forty-five years later, still no one knows who fired the first shot on Lexington Green on April 19, 1775. That’s the logical outcome of these idiots. Untrained ragers with automatic weapons, understandably nervous cops or National Guardsmen, a gun goes off, likely by accident, and there’s a bloodbath.

  55. 55.

    debbie

    May 2, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    @Immanentize:

    I want to make them cry. Is that so wrong???

  56. 56.

    Ohio Mom

    May 2, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    Another Scott: The numbers are going up in Ohio too.

    There are two small towns that have federal prisons that are hot spots but even after you adjust your calculations to exclude them, we are at best at a plateau. No downward slope on that line of new cases.

    Still, we are opening up in stages starting now. If you need me, I’ll be out stocking up for the next lock down.

  57. 57.

    stinger

    May 2, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: My understanding is that she filed a complaint but did not name Biden. “Individual 1” or whatever.

    P.S.  I’m retired!

  58. 58.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: IMO, which is means nothing,  I think she knows they can question who motives and discredit her.

  59. 59.

    kindness

    May 2, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    Before you make any big plans, immigrating to Canada isn’t an easy task for an American unless you have significant funds you are willing to put in a 10 year low interest CD in a Canadian bank.  It used to be a $250K would buy a green card.  Not sure what it is now.

  60. 60.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    @stinger:

    Happy day! Congrats.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @stinger: Welcome to the club.

  62. 62.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 2, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @stinger:

    Woohoo! Congratulations!

  63. 63.

    hells littlest angel

    May 2, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And yet, somehow we don’t have gun control. It’s almost as if our super-duper, greatest thing ever constitution doesn’t respect majorities.

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    May 2, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    @Citizen Alan:

    Don’t feel bitter.

    Stay here with us and help in the fight.

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    @burnspbesq: Correct.

  66. 66.

    West of the Cascades

    May 2, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    I was wondering if Reade would go ahead with the Fox interview, even without Biden’s appearance yesterday. Wallace can be a tough interviewer, seemingly the last of the Fox News “putatively real news” people who acts like a real journalist (sometimes).

  67. 67.

    Obvious Russian Troll

    May 2, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    @Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman): Remember Toronto’s crack-smoking formee mayor? His conservative brother is premier of Ontario.

    I have to give him credit for appearing to listen to his advisors, though. I think he might realize he’s in way over his head—and the guy is honestly only marginally smarter than his late brother.

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    @hells littlest angel: See Burnsie @ 52.

  69. 69.

    mali muso

    May 2, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    @Another Scott: I think the poultry factories in Harrisonburg have been part of that spike. And the NoVA area as well. I’ve heard that only 1% of the state has been tested, so obviously that’s a problem.

  70. 70.

    Redshift

    May 2, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    @stinger:

    My understanding is that she filed a complaint but did not name Biden. “Individual 1” or whatever. 

    That was for the police report she filed with the DC police, which was closed for lack of evidence. She claimed she had filed a personnel complaint at the time of the incident, but now that Biden has asked that those records be released, she’s apparently saying she didn’t.

  71. 71.

    Redshift

    May 2, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    And The World Didn’t End

    Poor Canadians, now defenseless against their government’s well-known tyrannical tendencies…

  72. 72.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    The fact that Reade now admits that she never filed a complaint makes Biden’s decision to keep his papers secret even more suspicious. #NYT

  73. 73.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    @Baud: Are you teasing or is that true.

  74. 74.

    Sister Golden Bear

    May 2, 2020 at 1:33 pm

    @stinger: Congratulations!

    And by not naming Biden in the police report she filed, Reade conveniently also shielded herself from potentially being charged with filing a false police report.

    Also, I think it was Adam who pointed it out, that since the complaint failed to say who was alleged involved, as well as where and when alleged crime took place (other than really vague terms), the police inevitably were going to close the case rather quickly. Which they did.

    But just like Trump trying to extort Ukraine into opening an investigation into Biden, but point wasn’t to actually have and investigation, rather it was create a talking point cudgel that she’d filed a complaint with the cops.

  75. 75.

    zhena gogolia

    May 2, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    @JPL:

    I think he’s doing a very good imitation of what the NYT will no doubt say next.

  76. 76.

    Mike in DC

    May 2, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    It’s funny that “gun rights activists” usually cite “cultural differences” as to why some countries can ban or restrict guns without social consequences but not the US.  But the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and now Canada have imposed substantial restrictions, including licensing and registration requirements, and all those countries are predominantly English-speaking with very similar cultural traditions and mores to the US.

  77. 77.

    Raoul

    May 2, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    One of the disturbing findings of a greatly reduced flying public: moar guns at TSA. To be accurate, more guns per 1000 pax screened. Add to this, how many were loaded “between February 24 to April 22, TSA has found 317 firearms. Of the 317 firearms, 263 were loaded and 94 had a round chambered” and it’s a serious problem.

    IMO, if one goes through TSA attempting to bring a loaded gun, you forfeit your right to any gun of any kind for ten years. Period.  It is legal to send an unloaded gun in your checked luggage, so it’s not like these people don’t have an option. They’re a) stupid, b) paranoid and c) cheap.

    But that’s our gun nuts

    eta: As a non gun person, am I right to think that a gun with a chambered round could very easily accidentally discharge while a TSA agent is rummaging in the bag? I think so. Yikers.

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    Well, fuck.  I need to go buy an new bicycle pump before I go for a ride today.  Good thing my schedule isn’t too busy.

  79. 79.

    hells littlest angel

    May 2, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: As I said, the fetishization of the constitution is the problem.

    Still, it is not all that great a constitution. That it had to be amended to outlaw slavery (except for the “crime” loophole) is a clear indicator.

  80. 80.

    Redshift

    May 2, 2020 at 1:43 pm

    @hells littlest angel: The other clear indicator is that every time we have helped a newly democratic county with setting up their system, it’s a parliamentary system.

  81. 81.

    JMG

    May 2, 2020 at 1:43 pm

    @hells littlest angel:
    Constitution was whiz-bang radical in 1787, but of course time passes. The Second Amendment had its origins in the reaction to the British Civil War of the 17th century, which left political elites in England, and therefore here, with a visceral distrust of standing armies. The colonists rebelled against what they saw as the abuses of King George III, but they were also leery of the possibility of an American Oliver Cromwell. Then of course the same people who wrote the Constitution got behind naming the general of their revolution’s standing army, George Washington, as President. Politics then no more logical than politics now.

  82. 82.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    @kindness:

    Many countries have similar restrictions. I’ve looked in the past for places to retire to and some had lower buy ins, most countries have a not insignificant amount.

    Keeps the riff raff down to a manageable number. What scum was it that bought an NZ spot?

  83. 83.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    @Raoul:

    It depends. A fully loaded revolver has a round in each chamber. A single action revolver has to be cocked, a double action revolver only has to have the trigger pulled. A semi auto pistol with a round in the chamber and the safety off will fire when the trigger is pulled, without a round in the chamber the slide will have to be pulled back and released to load one in the chamber. So, it depends is the best answer to the question, but a better question is what the hell is a weapon doing in carry on luggage in the first place, loaded or not?

  84. 84.

    Just Chuck

    May 2, 2020 at 1:55 pm

    @Mike in DC: Fewer blahs in those countries.  Fewer fucktarded racist morons with guns in general, and these folks want that cultural heritage respected.

  85. 85.

    Anya

    May 2, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    @Baud: Jake Tapper will still insist Biden release all of his records or Dems are being hypocritical. He’ll yell about it for the coming weeks.

  86. 86.

    pamelabrown53

    May 2, 2020 at 2:04 pm

    @Anya:

    As of now,I think Biden should ignore the Jake Tappers of the Village so we don’t have a 2020 version of “But her emails…”.

  87. 87.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 2, 2020 at 2:07 pm

    Edward-Isaac Dovere @IsaacDovere
    NEWS – Tara Reade abruptly canceled the interview she was scheduled to record on Friday afternoon with Chris Wallace for@FoxNewsSunday, to air Sunday morning. Reade told Fox on Friday, sometime after @JoeBiden‘s interview with @morningmika

    Fox News had been very excited about booking Reade, given that it would have been her first network television interview. Wallace was getting ready for the conversation. There’s consternation internally that it isn’t happening.

  88. 88.

    zhena gogolia

    May 2, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    @Anya:
    Actually, I saw this from Tapper last night, which gave me a glimmer of hope:

    So is it now time for President Trump to sit for an interview and take questions like this about allegations made by Jessica Leeds and Kristin Anderson and Jill Harth and Lisa Boyne and Mariah Billado and Victoria Hughes and Temple Taggart and Cathy Heller and Karen Virginia and https://t.co/mfGAFiQbuJ— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) May 1, 2020

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    @Anya: So what?

  90. 90.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 2, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    Edward-Isaac Dovere @IsaacDovere
    · 3m
    Reade had said she filed a sexual harassment report, but never filed anything about an assault. Now: WASHINGTON (AP) — Tara Reade … says she filed a limited report with a congressional personnel office that did not explicitly accuse him of sexual assault or harassment.

    It’s hard to keep up with, but I think this is her second restatement of the case just today.

  91. 91.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s shocking that she canceled her interview with Chris Wallace.   just shocking…  lol

  92. 92.

    Kent

    May 2, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    Guns are like any other public policy issue in the modern civilized world.   Healthcare, education, voting, and so forth.

    Americans tend to think extremely parochially in that the range of available solutions and policies are limited to what we can imagine and invent here at home.  And that the rest of the world provides no proven examples of how things might be done differently.

    I think we are the only county on the planet both arrogant and stupid enough to think that way.  Every other modern industrial country in the world has different and more robust gun policies.  Canada’s are actually pretty weak compared to say Germany or Japan.  Just like every other modern industrial country in the world has different and more robust health care policies than we do.

    “American exceptionalism” will be the death of us all.

  93. 93.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    @Kent: “American exceptionalism” will be the death of us all.

    It can be turned around.  “If [insert country name] can do [thing], we can do it better.  That, I think, is what Biden’s “This is
    America, damn it….” stuff that people here made fun of was all about.  Appeals to patriotism can work.

  94. 94.

    frosty

    May 2, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    @stinger:  Congrats! Three months and two days into retirement here.

  95. 95.

    Ksmiami

    May 2, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    @Mike in NC: I have a better idea- slash their tires and superglue their car door handles while they’re protestin and causin a nuisance

  96. 96.

    japa21

    May 2, 2020 at 3:05 pm

    Just received our letter from Trump. Sent via first-class mail through the USPS.  Well, at least he may be delaying their demise without even realizing it.

  97. 97.

    cliosfanboy

    May 2, 2020 at 3:05 pm

    Yet it’s the bozos with the big guns who accuse the rest of us of being cowards for wearing masks..   hey, I’m not the one who won’t go out in public without carrying enough firepower to kill a couple dozen people.

  98. 98.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 2, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    My god, I just listened to Chris Hayes’ response to the twitter rage about his “coverage” of the Reade-Biden story– it wasn’t coverage, it was punditry, lazy, insular, smarmy punditry– and it’s worse than the original segment. The combination of self-pity and sanctimony is stomach-turning. And I am a longtime fan, if one always willing to mock his eternal-grad-student earnestness.

  99. 99.

    Calouste

    May 2, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    @hells littlest angel: I’d think a clear indicator that the constitution isn’t all that great is that it couldn’t even keep the country together for more than two generations.

  100. 100.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Give it a couple of days and the story will be that she raped Biden.

  101. 101.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m glad I missed the original segment.

  102. 102.

    Librarian

    May 2, 2020 at 3:32 pm

    Joy Reid had an entire segment about the Biden thing.  Thanks , Joy, you’re a really big fucking help.

  103. 103.

    Cheryl Rofer

    May 2, 2020 at 3:38 pm

    Tara Reade’s cancelation of her interview on Fox News follows a troubling 24 hours.

    -MSNBC confirms they invited Reade for an interview after Reade claims they did not
    -Neighbor no longer sure about what Reade told her years ago
    -Reade now says she never filed formal complaint

    — Travis Akers (@travisakers) May 2, 2020

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 2, 2020 at 3:40 pm

    @Librarian: I haven’t had the TV on today, but judging from twitter MSNBC is all Reade all the time. I’m a bit surprised at Joy Reid since she’s been increasingly (and IMHO appropriately) skeptical on twitter

    (the one thing ‘rona time has not changed is my ability to procrastinate Saturday chores)

  105. 105.

    pamelabrown53

    May 2, 2020 at 3:40 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Not only his “eternal-grad-student-ernestness” but his white-boy privilege eternal-grad-student superiority. I find him and his ilk so offensive and they raise my blood-pressure. Better if I just ignore.

  106. 106.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    @Calouste:

    As constitutions go it isn’t all that bad. And if one considers the people that wrote it and put in a way to change it, and given the political concepts of the time they did pretty good.

    That being said, the concept that land ownership is the basis of citizenship and power was crap. That slavery had to be specifically written about, that such power as say a moscow mitch has over the entire country, that candidates can be picked with caucuses rather than by secret ballots, that there can be citizen votes without the ability to actually check the accuracy, that voting precincts can be manufactured to suppress voting, that we have a very limited way to hold completely incompetent federal office holders accountable…….

    But all governing premises have faults, because humans are involved.  Any concept of change will have faults, some that don’t show up for years/decades. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t attempt to fix the known flaws that we have, the biggest one being the monetary premise that money makes right and that more money makes one a better citizen.

  107. 107.

    Chyron HR

    May 2, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    This is merely a breeze spreading the troubling clouds of cloudiness over Biden’s campaign.

  108. 108.

    davecb

    May 2, 2020 at 3:49 pm

    @kindness:  I think that’s a rumor: you absolutely can’t buy a Canadian green card.

    If you’re curious about working in Canada, there’s a self-appraisal test at https://onlineservices-servicesenligne.cic.gc.ca/c2c/eapp.do

  109. 109.

    stinger

    May 2, 2020 at 3:53 pm

    @Baud:  and JPL and Dorothy:  Thanks! Still trying to get accustomed to the idea!

  110. 110.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 2, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    @Ruckus: Yeah, I would like to see someone propose a governing system that can accommodate the bugfuck insane right that has always been here, the bugfuck insane left that has always been here, the rational left of center, and the traditionalist right.  Our issue is the bugfuck insane.

  111. 111.

    stinger

    May 2, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    @Redshift: Thanks for the details.

  112. 112.

    davecb

    May 2, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    Just for fun, I put my data into https://onlineservices-servicesenligne.cic.gc.ca/c2c/eapp.do, said I was from the US, and it said

    Your results
    Based on the information you provided, the result(s) below indicate(s) whether you may be eligible to come to Canada.

    Express Entry
    You might be eligible for Express Entry, which includes the following federal economic immigration programs:

    • the Federal Skilled Worker Program
    • the Federal Skilled Trades Program
    • the Canadian Experience Class
  113. 113.

    stinger

    May 2, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: Thank you!

  114. 114.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: From the Atlantic twitter feed

    Reade told AP “she filed an ‘intake form’ at the Senate personnel office, which included her contact information, the office she worked for and some broad details of her issues” In podcast she did w/Katie Halper, she said she went to an office in Rayburn (on the House side)

  115. 115.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: This is in reference to my tweet at 114   ..

    The Atlantic has been covering this all day..

    Edward Isaac Dovers

  116. 116.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 4:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Bugfuck insane.

    I believe that you may be underestimating the level of insanity concerning governing.

    Although it might just be that my current language usage concerning levels of insanity tend to be a bit more obscene than bugfuck.

  117. 117.

    stinger

    May 2, 2020 at 4:18 pm

    @frosty: Thanks! How long before you got used to it? lol

  118. 118.

    mali muso

    May 2, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    @davecb: yeah, we applied through the federal skilled workers stream and got approved. It costs time and money and a lot of bureaucratic hoop jumping (have to get your transcripts evaluated for Canadian equivalency, take a standardized English proficiency test, etc), but having a plan B seemed worth it to us.

  119. 119.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 2, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    @Ruckus:

    more obscene than bugfuck.

    You were in the Navy, I’m confident in your abilities here.

  120. 120.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 2, 2020 at 4:25 pm

    I was just listening to Traister on NPR. She’s barely coherent, and in just a few sentences moved away from any consideration of whether Reade’s allegations are true, to arguing that the fact that they exist mean Biden is going to have to delegate more powers to his Vice President– she also snarkily implied that it’s insulting to women that Biden has pledged to name a woman as his running mate– and that Veep is going to have to satisfy “progressives” in unnamed but apparently obvious ways.

    One thing that’s clear is that to Traister and a few others, there’s only a small degree of difference between Biden’s ‘handsiness’ and the assault Reade describes. That’s hard for me to process.

  121. 121.

    JPL

    May 2, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: So has Taragate peaked to soon.

  122. 122.

    Baud

    May 2, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    She is going to be disappointed.

  123. 123.

    Ruckus

    May 2, 2020 at 4:50 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    I fucking appreciate that.

  124. 124.

    Just One More Canuck

    May 2, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    @Obvious Russian Troll:

    Ontario is still better than Alberta (I live in Ontario, have family in Alberta). Doug has been okay during the shutdown but has reverted to form over the assault rifle ban

    I was part of a facebook discussion yesterday where someone I know to be Canadian was complaining unironically that Trudeau was violating the Second Amendment

  125. 125.

    Immanentize

    May 2, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    @Ruckus: My Dad was a Navy man at the end of WWII.  I learned many rather unique and creative vocabulary combinations from him.

  126. 126.

    James E Powell

    May 2, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    Maybe it was already in an earlier thread, but have you all seen George W Bush’s video message? There’s probably nothing he could ever do to make me like him, but this did make me despise him a little bit less.

  127. 127.

    Morzer

    May 2, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    @Citizen Alan:

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse

    They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
        They may not mean to, but they do.
    They fill you with the faults they had
        And add some extra, just for you.

  128. 128.

    Morzer

    May 2, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Well, whodathunkit? Tara Reade’s bullshit castle is collapsing in on its deluded inhabitant.

  129. 129.

    Viva BrisVegas

    May 2, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    @kindness:  Is it easier to immigrate to Canada than Australia or NZ?

    Because I can assure you that the weather is better here in Oz and we’ve already sorted out guns and (maybe even) the virus.

  130. 130.

    Anya

    May 2, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    @zhena gogolia: This is indeed promising

     

    @Omnes Omnibus: I am just saying the media will still continue to push this. They have compulsion to make sure they are being hard on dems and they ALWAYS use GOP framing.

  131. 131.

    SWMBO

    May 2, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    @James E Powell: I just hope this isn’t a “rehabilitation for GWB” thing where he comes back as an elder statesman.

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