Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Americans barely caring about Afghanistan is so last month.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

In my day, never was longer.

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

Everybody saw this coming.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

“More of this”, i said to the dog.

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I’m not a fan of James Carville, but it was kinda brilliant to plant this thought in Trump’s empty head:

Trump’s entire commercial and political career has centered on committing fraud and fleecing the tragically stupid, so the suggestion that he might be the mark would be absolutely galling to him. If reports of Trump going off on campaign manager Brad Parscale after receiving bad polling news and subsequently being mollified by revised polls are accurate, Trump’s foul feathers were already ruffled. Perhaps the jibe landed because the Ferrari owner tweeted an unintentionally hilarious retort:

Always figured there was a kid somewhere who grew up wanting to be Grand Moff Tarkin. Now we know.

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  2. 2.

    Barbara

    Maybe “Death Star” was the wrong image.  Then again, if it it prefigures the death of Trump’s status as a star, I hope it is firing on all cylinders.

  4. 4.

    Tony Jay

    Jeebus, this is getting silly. First Piers Morgan, then Axl Rose, now James Carville, who’s going to be next on the Famous Arsehole Forcing Me To Agree With Them Because They Are So Fucking Right It Hurts Roadshow?

    Val Kilmer? Val Kilmer to the white courtesy phone.

  5. 5.

    VOR

    Remember when the Trump campaign tweeted out a video showing Trump as Thanos killing all the democrats? They don’t seem to realize Thanos and the Empire are the bad guys.
    Ever relevant – Mitchell and Webb: “Are we the Baddies?” https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    “Electionate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.”

    //

  11. 11.

    Jeffro

    Looks like the maladministration is just flat-out refusing to implement the CDC’s plan for reopening America.

    Also looks like we had a minor Bay of Pigs (“Inlet of Piglets?) thingy go down in South America.

    Meanwhile, the confiscation of PPE continues and it’s already pretty clear that trumpov & Co. are shoveling relief money into their & their cronies’ pockets as fast as they can.

    What’s up, House Dems?  Y’all taking a little time off this week – nothing better to do?

  12. 12.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I am too also not a Carville fan, but he’s on to something there. I haven’t forgotten how he trolled Obama over the oil leak back in the day (Deepwater Horizon?) and he was always one of my suspects for “a prominent Democrat said off the record…”, but for the last six months he’s been speaking some sense.

    (and I’m not saying I wanted to be Darth Vader, but that “fuck with me and I will choke you from across the room” had a lot of appeal to a pudgy kid with two mean older brothers)

  13. 13.

    No One of Consequence

    As I recall, this particular episode does not end well for the Moff..

    Especially troubling is the willingness, even eagerness to take up the black. Not in a GoT way, but in a Dump All Pretense Full On Malevolence kind of way.

    These fuckers lack the balls to conduct the civil war they so seemingly crave. They know they are cowards. They know they cannot consolidate much territory, and that any major city will be problematic for them. They know that if they actually try to start having the courage of their so-called-convictions, their only tool will be terrorism. The mouth-breathing foot-soldiers haven’t considered these things, but those among their ‘leadership’ that have any strategic sense at all realize that such a campaign is doomed from jump. Disregarding the obvious superiority of whomever is to be the Authorities in such a case, the would-be-civil-warriors’ cause wouldn’t stand up in the court of public opinion.

    I cannot fathom the strategy at work here. Stupidity isn’t reason enough for my conscience.

    I has a perplexed.

    Peace,

    – NOoC

  14. 14.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    The Death Star blew up and brought the Empire down with it.

    This is like Cosplay Nazis who want to be SS officers in 1941 and not SS officers in 1946.

  15. 15.

    ChrisS

    Coalitions?  Surrogates?

    Is Brad saying that the campaign is coordinating with outside PACs and special interest groups?

    How about foreign countries?  Troll operations?

  16. 16.

    bluehill

    @Jeffro:  I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but still. I think the ineptness is the point. Maybe they realize the jig is up and are just trying to grab as much lucre on the way out and f-up as much of the government as they can. Country first!

  17. 17.

    bemused

    I watched Carville last night and definitely agree the Dems need to get more whoop ass on trump and gop. I’ve thought that for years. Dems can be a lot more hard hitting without being republican jerks. What’s so hard about that?

  20. 20.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @VOR: Thanos and the Empire were also defeated in the end by alliances of the unwilling who had no choice because of the existential threat they posed to everyone.

    Kind of like the Western Capitalists and the Soviet Communists teaming up against Nazi Germany…

  21. 21.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @ChrisS: More to the point, were was this Awesome Campaign Death Star in the Midterms and the special elections?

  24. 24.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @bemused:

    Dems can be a lot more hard hitting without being republican jerks. What’s so hard about that?

    Like this?  or like this? Biden is punching pretty hard, but I don’t know how these ads land with Normies, or where they’re airing.

    This came up the other day, seems like very few people here watch normal TV, especially with sports not airing. I passed through the CBS morning  show looking for headlines– not the one I’m hoping for– and saw my first network trump ad. Him screaming what he thinks is tuff over footage of people cheering for him and him making the thumbs-up gestures. I didn’t think it was good, but I’m about as far from his target audience as you can get

    ETA: and in a sign of the other big problem Biden has, the first comment to that second link is whiny critique from someone whose twitter handle is “Medicare For All Now”

  25. 25.

    Betty Cracker

    Parscale’s only shot is to destroy Biden, making the election about him, not about Trump. That’s an easier trick to pull off when you’re 1) not the incumbent, 2) have a 30-year head start attacking your opponent, and 3) aren’t currently presiding over a public health and economic disaster that you’ve publicly botched in every conceivable way.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    Still time to get your bets in on which week he decides to start referring to it as the Democrat Virus.

    //

  28. 28.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @Barbara:

    Maybe “Death Star” was the wrong image.  Then again, if it it prefigures the death of Trump’s status as a star, I hope it is firing on all cylinders.

    I’ve been saying it for a while now…Karma has reached into the Universe and every thing he or his boot lickers or his campaign does is taking him down, all by themselves.

    If we can just survive all the shit he’s gonna do to the country in the meantime and just drag our nearly-dead carcasses cross the finish line  January 19, 2021 we’ll be fine.

  32. 32.

    low-tech cyclist

    Well, they haven’t been blowing up whole planets of innocent people, but 75,000 dead Americans is all too good a start.

  36. 36.

    bemused

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I don’t know where they are airing on tv either. The first ad was ok but too long and not punchy enough, imo.

    I had already seen cry me a river and loved it. More like that.

    Pretty sure trump badly wants to have big campaign rallies with all his bonehead supporters again. What are the odds he manages to do that?

  37. 37.

    germy

    From the White House readout of today’s Trump – Putin call: “President Trump reiterated that the United States is working hard to care for Americans at home and is also ready to provide assistance to any country in need, including Russia.”

    — Philip Crowther (@PhilipinDC) May 7, 2020

  41. 41.

    Hunter Gathers

    Always figured there was a kid somewhere who grew up wanting to be Grand Moff Tarkin.

    Governor Tarkin would make Parscale his bitch in less time that it would take him to state “You may fire when ready.”

  42. 42.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: MSNBC also reporting it. AFAIK, this is the first confirmed case in the WH/Trump’s inner circle. At least, the first they’ve acknowledged.

  43. 43.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @JPL:

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

    Yes, but sadly, it’s a sure thing that he is OD’ing on zinc, Plaquenil and Z-packs, plus has diverted a 2 year stash of experimental remdesivir for his own use so…

    By the time this is over he’s more likely to suffer antibiotic-caaused small bowel dysbiosis, cardiac arrhythmias, blindness or perpetual jaundice from liver damage, not COVID.

  44. 44.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @bemused: another sign of Biden’s problem: Google searches brought up anti-Biden trump ads, and Broderist critiques of Biden ads (“new Biden ad exposes rifts on left…”), before the Biden ads .

  45. 45.

    MattF

    There’s a real possibility that Parscale is being set up for a big fall. As we all know, it’s risky to predict the future, but I can hear the cracking concrete. And telling Trump what to do is a danger signal

    ETA: There’s the NYT beat-sweetener article, and Parscale’s competing with Jarvanka, and proximity to Trump is bad news in nearly all cases.

  46. 46.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @JPL:

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

    Is it wrong to admit I was tempted to reach down to fondle myself a bit on that bit of news?

  48. 48.

    Heywood J.

    TFW when the cosplay dopes who fantasize about being Luke or Han finally get it through their thick skulls that they’ve been played by the Emperor the whole time. Can’t wait to see what logo gets stenciled on their TMNJ Kek shields and traitor-slaver flags for next season.

    I wonder what the women in their lives think about….oh wait, never mind.

  50. 50.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Biden is punching pretty hard, but I don’t know how these ads land with Normies, or where they’re airing.

    I don’t know how YouTube ads are chosen, but I sure would appreciate it if the Biden campaign could buy some of those slots so I don’t have to see Prager University or Epoch Times ads fifty million times per video.

  51. 51.

    Brendan in NC

    @Barbara: I image it will work out more along the lines of Loki attempting to turn Tony Stark in the first Avengers. “Performnce issues”.

  53. 53.

    BigJimSlade

    Data, Digital, TV, Political, Surrogates, Coalitions, etc.

    How many of those is Putin in charge of
    But Putin won’t fleece Trump for much, just his soul and his country.

  54. 54.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    According to that CNN article, the president, VP, and top advisors are tested regularly. I guess it didn’t occur to him that one of the valets could have it. The little people, you know. They’re invisible

  55. 55.

    patrick II

    being mollified by revised polls

    That is pretty much the story of Mr. Tough Guy Trump — am I making the right people happy? Do they really like me? By keeping billionaires Mercers happy by not firing KellyAnn, keeping the coronavirus task force (“I never knew it was so popular”) even though he gave it no plan and has no idea what it should do. Keeping a smile on Mr. Putin’s face, forcing meatpackers back to work in dire conditions to keep the Tysons happy. Tell me I am abusing the weak enough that billionaires will be happy so I can pretend to be president for four more years. That’s all I want to hear.
    Tough guy talk but weak as a kitten. Please don’t tell me what I don’t want to hear. It might hurt my feelings deeply and I will throw a tantrum. Waahh!! someone is being mean to me. Tweet, tweet, tweet. I hate you! I saw you with Joe! I’m not going to prom with you!

  57. 57.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @different-church-lady: me too

    Forgot permanent loss of taste, smell and peripheral neuropathy from toxic doses of zinc.

    So, seriously, you if think he’s an sniffing, clumsy, lumbering edematous orange fart cloud now…:-D

  59. 59.

    cain

    @bemused:

    I watched Carville last night and definitely agree the Dems need to get more whoop ass on trump and gop. I’ve thought that for years. Dems can be a lot more hard hitting without being republican jerks. What’s so hard about that?

    They are policy nerds – this kind of shit isn’t their gig. That’s why it’s better to offshore it to people like Rick and the Lincoln Project who know how to ratfuck. These guys know how to fuck with their own party better than we do. Seriously they are more popular with Democrats than Democratic politicians because they know how to engage. I mean shit, do you see us putting any Democratic politician other than Nancy on the front page? The never trumpers more often than not.

  60. 60.

    scav

    Maybe their big reveal is essentially Trumpty and his stalwart real ‘mercans actually mooning the rest of the nation.  Orange Moon Rising!

     

    Their new battle flag: You Can’t Mask This! (because there would have to be the merchangle)

  61. 61.

    david

    SC overturns “Bridgegate” convictions.

    UNANIMOUS ruling. Including Kagan, Sotomayor, and the Notorious RBG.

  63. 63.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @Ella in New Mexico:  So I think the aquarium use hydroxychloroquine prevents the virus from making you sick when taken in a really high dosage.  As a liberal, I am so triggered when people use that to keep the Chinese virus away….

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s not “usage,” it’s spelling. Nobody pronounces it “whoooop ass.” They pronounce it with the vowel sound like “would” or “push.”

  65. 65.

    MattF

    @cain: It’s somewhat annoying to see the never-Trumpers doing what Democrats ought to be doing, but… it’s good that someone is doing it, and doing it well. They’re not stupid and they are extremely, existentially pissed off.

  66. 66.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @cain:

    “That’s no moon.. that’s your momma!” – The Emperor

    Pence:  Mother!  Is that you!?

  68. 68.

    Brachiator

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I don’t know how YouTube ads are chosen, but I sure would appreciate it if the Biden campaign could buy some of those slots so I don’t have to see Prager University or Epoch Times ads fifty million times per video.

    For a long time I didn’t even realize what the Epoch Times ads were. I would not pay attention and skip past after the five second wait.

    Based on past knowledge, this may be deliberate. They tell the algorithm (oversimplifying), track views of liberal political videos and counterprogram our ads.

    Or someone has given them a boatload of money and they are trying to place their obnoxious ads everywhere.

  69. 69.

    cain

    @germy:

    Actually they’ve stopped caring about Americans and looking to extort other countries including Russian.

  71. 71.

    TaMara (HFG)

    @david: I guess I’ll just have to be satisfied that they faced 6 years of humiliation, expense and loss of their livelihood. Still, anyone who suffered from those closures (medical emergencies, especially), I hope they can sue their asses.

  75. 75.

    PST

    @Brachiator: The Epoch Times may have a boatload of money to burn. I found a copy in my mailbox recently. Fortunately, with the end of the Charmin shortage here, I didn’t need it. That much insanity can irritate.

  76. 76.

    Brachiator

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    According to that CNN article, the president, VP, and top advisors are tested regularly. I guess it didn’t occur to him that one of the valets could have it. The little people, you know. They’re invisible

    I recall a story about a wealthy Florida enclave on an island. The residents early on got a bunch of tests that otherwise might have gone to medical folks on the front lines. Anyway, they made sure to get enough for themselves and the staff and workers on the island.

    Trump is just a lowlife idiot who cannot even think two steps ahead.

  78. 78.

    eric

    The reason dems cant do max cleland style ads is because the NYT and its ilk would lose their collective mind(s).  Republicans can do because that is who they are.  Cast to type, as it were.

  81. 81.

    chopper

    jesus, four star wars films, four, directly portray the bad guys’ planet-killing weapons getting destroyed and their asses kicked.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    @Steeplejack

    Admittedly haven’t heard it pronounced aloud a lot but those times I have it has been pronounced whoop unless used in verbiage intended to evoke a specific accent or dialect.

    YMMV.

    Could be regional variation, as in pronunciations of roof?

  84. 84.

    Brachiator

    @germy:

    From the White House readout of today’s Trump – Putin call: “President Trump reiterated that the United States is working hard to care for Americans at home and is also ready to provide assistance to any country in need, including Russia.”

    Damn. This is gutsy, to be so open. Trump has essentially written off the American people, but is offering assistance to Russia.

    And his base just sit back and take it.

  85. 85.

    chopper

    @Betty Cracker:

    besides which, any attempt to make the election about biden is going to get cockblocked by trump himself. he wants the election to be a referendum on him because he needs all the attention and he really thinks he’s the biggest most successful genius president ever.

  86. 86.

    Yutsano

    @NotMax: It’s spelled whooping cough. That comes from the sound the sufferers make. I always assumed the spelling derived from that. But I’m not a linguist and English spelling is already weird so…

    EDIT: and I pronounce “roof” with a very strange vowel that’s close to “rough” but not quite. So maybe don’t ask me. :P

  87. 87.

    JPL

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: They don’t wear masks, and he showed symptoms yesterday.   trump thinks masks look bad.   If trump wore a mask, it would smudge his makeup, and all would see.

  88. 88.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @ziggy:

    Hope springs eternal…

    I’m only a little bit ashamed to admit that my very first thought, upon learning the news, was “ohpleezeohpleezeohpleezeohpleeze…”

    ETA: Should probably add, from an abundance of prudence, that I wish no lasting ill on the valet himself. But, well….

  90. 90.

    PST

    @NotMax: I had a college roommate, now a successful lawyer, who pronounced push as poosh and cushion as cooshion. It was regional. I’m sure he would say whoop.

  93. 93.

    MattF

    @chopper: Yup. Trump absolutely believes that as long as he places himself front and center, it will guarantee a win. And… any attempt to modify that belief is dangerous to the attempter.

  94. 94.

    Brachiator

    @NotMax:

    Admittedly haven’t heard it pronounced aloud a lot but those times I have it has been pronounced whoop unless used in verbiage intended to evoke a specific accent or dialect.

    Never heard whoop-ass pronounced as whoop, with long O sounds as in hoop. It doesn’t even make sense.

  95. 95.

    Immanentize

    @JPL:

     

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

    Yet another test of my sense of humanity and charity. Trump makes us all lesser.

  96. 96.

    randy khan

    @david:

    SC overturns “Bridgegate” convictions.

    I’m not really surprised.  The Court has made it tough to convict people for political corruption, particularly since the decision in the McDonnell case (and, honestly, he was like a cartoon version of a corrupt politician).  Heck, the Feds decided not to continue pursuing the also obviously corrupt Bob Menendez after the McDonnell decision.

  97. 97.

    different-church-lady

    @Betty Cracker: Anyone who knows what they’re doing will start with the uh and then slide to the oop smoothly — whuuOOOP ASS!

    Sadly, most people do not know what they’re doing.

  100. 100.

    Another Scott

    I’m pretty sure it was Carville that I saw a handful of times driving a Mercedes AMG-GT (ish) car in NoVA a few years ago.  He likes his flashy cars, also too.

    One thing about him, he has no problem living in glass penthouses and throwing rocks.

    The license plate was “ELEVEN”.

    Hehe.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  102. 102.

    Betty Cracker

    @Brachiator: It’s not like “whup” makes a ton of sense either; why not simply unseal a tin of whip-ass? I suspect it’s a regional thing. In my area, “whoop” is as common as “whup.” I prefer “whup” myself.

  103. 103.

    randy khan

    @Brachiator:

    Based on past knowledge, this may be deliberate. They tell the algorithm (oversimplifying), track views of liberal political videos and counterprogram our ads.

    I’ve bought online ads occasionally, and you tell the company who you want to target.  More sophisticated ads are triggered by the other sites you visit (which explained all of the ads to buy certain plants from a particularly nursery that I started getting after I had bought those plants from that nursery, although that wasn’t really a great use of that kind of targeting).

  105. 105.

    Walker

    So is he saying that his campaign plan has a single point of failure that can easily be exploited?

  109. 109.

    Brachiator

    @Yutsano:

    It’s spelled whooping cough. That comes from the sound the sufferers make. I always assumed the spelling derived from that. But I’m not a linguist and English spelling is already weird so…

    But whup-ass is derived from “I’m gonna whip yo ass!”

    So, open up a can of whup-ass on you. Typically, the phrase uses short vowels, to emphasize fast, quick action. And since the actual word “whup” doesn’t really exist, but is informal language,  any spelling is after the fact and arbitrary.

    But this is kinda how English works.

  111. 111.

    Amir Khalid

    @chopper:

    It must mean that these people, as a group, have a very shallow knowledge of popular culture. Boris Johnson is of their ilk. He started out saying that he was following the example of the mayor of Amity in Jaws — keeping the beaches open and the tourists coming and business humming. If you remember how the book/movie ended, you know how that plan worked out; BoJo did not, until he himself got sick.

  113. 113.

    NotMax

    OT.

    Damn, loaf just now taken from the super duper bread machine is so picture perfect it looks too good to eat.

    But shall succumb regardless.

  115. 115.

    PST

    @NotMax: According to thesaurus.plus, there was a time when onomatopoetic was used more often than onomatopoeic, but since the forties onomatopoeic has been taking an insurmountable lead. Just thought the world would want to know.

  116. 116.

    Immanentize

    @cain:

    Imm: What is the name of the shadow on the second Moon?
    Stilgar: We call that one, “Votes-for-Biden.”
    I: Then can I be called, “Imm Votes-for-Biden?”
    S: You shall be known as “Imm Votes-for-Biden

  118. 118.

    Brachiator

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s not like “whup” makes a ton of sense either; why not simply unseal a tin of whip-ass? I suspect it’s a regional thing. In my area, “whoop” is as common as “whup.” I prefer “whup” myself.

    Posted a longer response above before I saw this.

    Funny, “unseal a tin of whip-ass” sounds formal and dainty and ironic compared to “open a can of whup-ass.” I’ve heard the phrase using whup-ass more in movies and comedy store routines than in real life.

    But I grew up hearing people say “I’m gonna whup yo ass.”

    Could be regional and ethnic.

  119. 119.

    Matt McIrvin

    It’s not that they don’t realize it. Dick Cheney and Steve Bannon both explicitly liked to say they were embracing the Dark Side of the Force, that the power afforded by being like Darth Vader was good and necessary. I’ve been noticing that strain on the right for some time–people who talk about Star Wars and explicitly say they root for the Empire, the torture-and-genocide fans who blow up planets on a whim.

    (This is not the same as saying the Jedi suck. The Jedi do suck. But the Empire are still bad guys.)

    If there’s anything they ignore, it’s that the bad guys eventually lose in these stories–even if you have to kill them multiple times before it happens, even if some of them have to do a heel-face turn. The Empire falls, the Avengers pull a time heist and defeat Thanos. I guess they dismiss all that as a fairy tale; they just see the first part, the rise of the bad guy. The bad guys register as strong, so powerful that they can toss heroes aside like so many rag dolls for the first two-thirds of the movie, and the perception of strength is everything.

  120. 120.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @PST: I’ve always wondered (idly) why it is that a person who studies physics is a physicist, whereas a person who studies metaphysics is a metaphysician.

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Only camera is the crappy one in the tablet, which probably needs to be charged as I haven’t used it since the last NY trip. Suffice to say the bread could be the centerfold in Playdough.

  126. 126.

    Brachiator

    @randy khan:

    I’ve bought online ads occasionally, and you tell the company who you want to target.  More sophisticated ads are triggered by the other sites you visit (which explained all of the ads to buy certain plants from a particularly nursery that I started getting after I had bought those plants from that nursery, although that wasn’t really a great use of that kind of targeting).

    Where this might work and is smart: you buy something that you may have to buy again or restock. So you get shown an ad for a place nearby or online that might be useful in the future. Some people may forget it or dismiss it, but some folks might make a note of it.

  128. 128.

    cain

    @MattF:

    @cain: It’s somewhat annoying to see the never-Trumpers doing what Democrats ought to be doing, but… it’s good that someone is doing it, and doing it well. They’re not stupid and they are extremely, existentially pissed off.

    The abuse that Rick Wilson probably gets on a daily/hourly basis is probably not something normal democrats can handle. That stuff just flows off him like he’s teflon. He doesn’t give a shit.. and he’s making alliances with other Democratic people – podcasts and the like.

    It’s just not in us to do that. Remember when John first joined as a Democrat – it’s like one of the more things republicans have a hard time to adjusting to – it’s why a lot of us are angry usually at our own party a lot of the time.

  129. 129.

    Immanentize

    @NotMax: OK,, Here is a real question for the Jackal Pack —

    I need to get a good web cam for my upcoming totally online Immanentize Criminal Law Show and Musical Review.

    Any cam recommendations?

  130. 130.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Also, and à propos of nothing, but it turns out that Häagen-Dazs Belgian Chocolate ice cream straight from the container makes a perfectly acceptable Lunch in the Time of Quarantine.

  131. 131.

    MoCA Ace

    @Ella in New Mexico: By the time this is over he’s more likely to suffer antibiotic-caaused small bowel dysbiosis, cardiac arrhythmias, blindness or perpetual jaundice from liver damage, not COVID.

    Now your’e just trying to brighten my day!

  135. 135.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @david:

    UNANIMOUS ruling.

    Which means when they say ‘the law doesn’t say this is a crime’ it must be blatantly true.  We need better political corruption laws, which of course are something Mitch McConnell is fanatically opposed to.

  137. 137.

    Yutsano

    @Matt McIrvin: Honestly: not one Jedi foresaw Order 66? Not even Yoda? Was it so out of the realm of possibility that they all were blind to it? And then not one detected the threat from their clones? I know it would have made the dramatic impact of the Jedi being decimated* but come on! Y’all have this immense capability and…nothing?

    @Brachiator: *since we’re going off of words in English being twisted…and the idea of decimation may have been a slander on Rome. It’s not like gathering and training soldiers was exactly a cheap affair.

  140. 140.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @PST: Yes, I think we do in that case. Studying and treating are two different things, and Greek suffixes recognise that.

  143. 143.

    NotMax

    @Immanentize

    Don’t know squat about them other than that some gamer acquaintances swear by the Razer Kiyo as an admirably proficient mid-range (under a hundred clams) choice.

  148. 148.

    MattF

    @Immanentize: Yes. I gifted a Z rice cooker to my sister and BIL, and they are delighted with it– they use it to cook oatmeal every morning.

  149. 149.

    PST

    @SiubhanDuinne: While that strikes me as a good point, what about oncologists, gastroenterologists, nephrologists, mixologists, and all the other ologists? (I know these as a sickly person who drinks a lot.) What makes gerontologists so special that they don’t have to share?

  150. 150.

    Yutsano

    @Immanentize: Heh. I was just telling some Asian friends on Twitter last night that I make bomb ass rice for a white boy. There are many other reasons to get a rice cooker true, but I don’t need it for rice per se.

  151. 151.

    Brachiator

    @Steeplejack:

    The word whup most certainly does exist. It’s in all the dictionaries and everything.

    Sure, what I meant was that for most people, the oral word came before the written word. The written form of the word is usually informal, and not often used unless used in a short story or novel.

  153. 153.

    NotMax

    @Immanentize

    Would stop and think long and hard about digging into fuzzy rice.

    :)

    Only appliances they make for which I’ve seen less than stellar reviews are their coffee makers.

    Actually, you’ve reminded me I copied and pasted a recipe for making wild rice bread in the machine which I want to try out.

  154. 154.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I’m only a little bit ashamed to admit that my very first thought, upon learning the news, was “ohpleezeohpleezeohpleezeohpleeze…”

    Come sit by (6 feet from) me!!   I wish for a very mild case and a speedy recovery, for the personal valet (member of the U.S. Navy if I recall correctly).   What the Presidential valets do

  155. 155.

    hueyplong

    You know you’re on one of them weenie librul sites when half the posts wish some/any Demonrat would fight like a Carville/never Trumper and the other half of the posts argues about how to spell whupass, the correct spelling and literary usage of the term being the mother of its actual employment.

    Meanwhile, Trump talks tough while refusing a mask and edging the safety goggles ever so gently onto his nose so as not to smudge a mulch bag’s worth of orange pancake to hide the jaundice God has inflicted upon him as a portent of things to come.

  161. 161.

    Brachiator

    @Yutsano:

    *since we’re going off of words in English being twisted…and the idea of decimation may have been a slander on Rome. It’s not like gathering and training soldiers was exactly a cheap affair

    People get misled by harping on the idea that decimate did not originally mean “kill everyone.”

    Killing every tenth man in a cohort (480 troops) had a huge impact. And the idea was that the group would be divided into smaller groups of ten, and the nine soldiers in the group would be forced to kill the unlucky person selected for punishment. That’s some brutal shit that would leave psychological impact on everyone remaining.

    Apart from that, word meanings naturally change and develop new associations. I always liked the word boondocks, and am tickled to know that American soldiers brought it from the Philippines after serving in the late 19th century wars there.

  165. 165.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Matt McIrvin: The also ignore that it’s Star Wars cannon that even the Imperials though the Death Star was shear idiocy, that the Imperial fleet could render planets lifeless the planets the Emperor wanted rendered lifeless  with it’s Star Destroyers and the Death Star project sucked resources away from more important projects.

    That was sort of Lucas point with Star Wars, that silencing all dissent isn’t successful in the long term (so naturally Lucas did just that at Lucas Film).

  166. 166.

    JoyceH

    Hey, aren’t people who have been expose supposed to self-quarantine for 14 days? Trump is going to be taking part in some White House Prayer Day thing today. You just know attendance is going to be mandatory and masks will most likely be absent. 1600 could be the new hot spot.

  167. 167.

    J R in WV

    @No One of Consequence:

    I cannot fathom the strategy at work here. Stupidity isn’t reason enough for my conscience.

    How about evil, greedy, self-centered stupidity?? Does that get closer to the mark for you? Perhaps with a dose of fascism and racism? A Big Dose!!

  169. 169.

    J R in WV

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    By the time this is over he’s more likely to suffer antibiotic-caaused small bowel dysbiosis, cardiac arrhythmias, blindness or perpetual jaundice from liver damage

    All sounds good to me as long as we’re all still talkin’ about Trump and his minions in the White House…

  170. 170.

    satby

    @MattF: look at resale shops when they open / reopen in your area. Bread machines show up often there. I scored a Zorushi 1 lb loaf bread machine for $7 once. Mint condition. But most of the models available will usually be near mint; apparently it’s one of those things people buy, use once, and then get rid of.

  171. 171.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

     

    or Epoch Times ads fifty million times per video.

    God, no shit. That fucking Epoch Times twerp badly needs a punch in his smarmy nose. Christwhattanasshole.

  173. 173.

    Citizen Alan

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: A dumb question perhaps, but did Obama have a “personal valet” let alone several? I feel sure I’d have heard that shouted from the mountaintops if he did by pundits who said it showed how out of touch Obama was with common people.

  174. 174.

    Mo MacArbie

    C’mon, where is the whoop-ass? It’s in a can. What else comes in cans? Cheez and kreme.

  176. 176.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Chief Oshkosh: That fucking Epoch Times twerp badly needs a punch in his smarmy nose.

    I was at one point contemplating a 3-group in the center forehead – but since we are already short one Phule here (our Bloglord of Naked Mopping having put down the swab, put on some trousers, picked up his 36″ corked-&-weighted Louisville Sluggard banbat & hammered his butt out to the vicinity of the Dumbbell Nebula) I shall demur. :^D

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