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You are here: Home / Open Threads / ‘That’s no moon.’

‘That’s no moon.’

by Betty Cracker|  May 7, 202010:21 am| 176 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Trumpery

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I’m not a fan of James Carville, but it was kinda brilliant to plant this thought in Trump’s empty head:

Carville on Trump: "They’re a pack of grifters. His campaign manager got two condos, a Ferrari, a yacht, a Range Rover and they’re all just fleecing the campaign. This is all about making money and they’re going in there and giving him fake polls."pic.twitter.com/rigtoZHt5w

— PoliticsVideoChannel (@politvidchannel) May 7, 2020

Trump’s entire commercial and political career has centered on committing fraud and fleecing the tragically stupid, so the suggestion that he might be the mark would be absolutely galling to him. If reports of Trump going off on campaign manager Brad Parscale after receiving bad polling news and subsequently being mollified by revised polls are accurate, Trump’s foul feathers were already ruffled. Perhaps the jibe landed because the Ferrari owner tweeted an unintentionally hilarious retort:

For nearly three years we have been building a juggernaut campaign (Death Star). It is firing on all cylinders. Data, Digital, TV, Political, Surrogates, Coalitions, etc.

In a few days we start pressing FIRE for the first time. pic.twitter.com/aJgCNfx1m0

— Brad Parscale – Download our Trump 2020 App today! (@parscale) May 7, 2020

Always figured there was a kid somewhere who grew up wanting to be Grand Moff Tarkin. Now we know.

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  1. 1.

    E.

    May 7, 2020 at 10:26 am

    “We are building a Death Star.”

    When they tell you who they are, believe them.

  2. 2.

    Barbara

    May 7, 2020 at 10:27 am

    Maybe “Death Star” was the wrong image.  Then again, if it it prefigures the death of Trump’s status as a star, I hope it is firing on all cylinders.

  3. 3.

    Wag

    May 7, 2020 at 10:29 am

    @Barbara:

    No, it is totally the image they wanted to portray.  They just forget how the movies turn out.

  4. 4.

    Tony Jay

    May 7, 2020 at 10:29 am

    Jeebus, this is getting silly. First Piers Morgan, then Axl Rose, now James Carville, who’s going to be next on the Famous Arsehole Forcing Me To Agree With Them Because They Are So Fucking Right It Hurts Roadshow?

    Val Kilmer? Val Kilmer to the white courtesy phone.

  5. 5.

    VOR

    May 7, 2020 at 10:29 am

    Remember when the Trump campaign tweeted out a video showing Trump as Thanos killing all the democrats? They don’t seem to realize Thanos and the Empire are the bad guys.
    Ever relevant – Mitchell and Webb: “Are we the Baddies?” https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    May 7, 2020 at 10:34 am

    Did Parscale sleep through the second half of the film?

  7. 7.

    randy khan

    May 7, 2020 at 10:35 am

    They *like* being the bad guys.

  8. 8.

    PenAndKey

    May 7, 2020 at 10:39 am

    @randy khan: They just can’t stand when people point out that they’re the bad guys and not very fine people.

  9. 9.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 7, 2020 at 10:39 am

    @randy khan:

    Yes! They see “bad guys” as “badass guys.”

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 10:40 am

    “Electionate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.”

    //

  11. 11.

    Jeffro

    May 7, 2020 at 10:40 am

    Looks like the maladministration is just flat-out refusing to implement the CDC’s plan for reopening America.

    Also looks like we had a minor Bay of Pigs (“Inlet of Piglets?) thingy go down in South America.

    Meanwhile, the confiscation of PPE continues and it’s already pretty clear that trumpov & Co. are shoveling relief money into their & their cronies’ pockets as fast as they can.

    What’s up, House Dems?  Y’all taking a little time off this week – nothing better to do?

  12. 12.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 7, 2020 at 10:40 am

    I am too also not a Carville fan, but he’s on to something there. I haven’t forgotten how he trolled Obama over the oil leak back in the day (Deepwater Horizon?) and he was always one of my suspects for “a prominent Democrat said off the record…”, but for the last six months he’s been speaking some sense.

    (and I’m not saying I wanted to be Darth Vader, but that “fuck with me and I will choke you from across the room” had a lot of appeal to a pudgy kid with two mean older brothers)

  13. 13.

    No One of Consequence

    May 7, 2020 at 10:42 am

    As I recall, this particular episode does not end well for the Moff..

    Especially troubling is the willingness, even eagerness to take up the black. Not in a GoT way, but in a Dump All Pretense Full On Malevolence kind of way.

    These fuckers lack the balls to conduct the civil war they so seemingly crave. They know they are cowards. They know they cannot consolidate much territory, and that any major city will be problematic for them. They know that if they actually try to start having the courage of their so-called-convictions, their only tool will be terrorism. The mouth-breathing foot-soldiers haven’t considered these things, but those among their ‘leadership’ that have any strategic sense at all realize that such a campaign is doomed from jump. Disregarding the obvious superiority of whomever is to be the Authorities in such a case, the would-be-civil-warriors’ cause wouldn’t stand up in the court of public opinion.

    I cannot fathom the strategy at work here. Stupidity isn’t reason enough for my conscience.

    I has a perplexed.

    Peace,

    – NOoC

  14. 14.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 7, 2020 at 10:46 am

    The Death Star blew up and brought the Empire down with it.

    This is like Cosplay Nazis who want to be SS officers in 1941 and not SS officers in 1946.

  15. 15.

    ChrisS

    May 7, 2020 at 10:46 am

    Coalitions?  Surrogates?

    Is Brad saying that the campaign is coordinating with outside PACs and special interest groups?

    How about foreign countries?  Troll operations?

  16. 16.

    bluehill

    May 7, 2020 at 10:47 am

    @Jeffro:  I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but still. I think the ineptness is the point. Maybe they realize the jig is up and are just trying to grab as much lucre on the way out and f-up as much of the government as they can. Country first!

  17. 17.

    bemused

    May 7, 2020 at 10:47 am

    I watched Carville last night and definitely agree the Dems need to get more whoop ass on trump and gop. I’ve thought that for years. Dems can be a lot more hard hitting without being republican jerks. What’s so hard about that?

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 10:48 am

    @No One of Consequence

    Stupidity. Cupidity. Insipidity. Putridity.

    Can’t tell the deficiency without a program.

    ;)

  19. 19.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 7, 2020 at 10:49 am

    @No One of Consequence:

    A couple of years ago, I toured the OKBomb museum in Oklahoma City. I fear we’re heading once again into Timothy McVeigh territory.

  20. 20.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 7, 2020 at 10:51 am

    @VOR: Thanos and the Empire were also defeated in the end by alliances of the unwilling who had no choice because of the existential threat they posed to everyone.

    Kind of like the Western Capitalists and the Soviet Communists teaming up against Nazi Germany…

  21. 21.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 7, 2020 at 10:54 am

    @ChrisS: More to the point, were was this Awesome Campaign Death Star in the Midterms and the special elections?

  22. 22.

    JPL

    May 7, 2020 at 10:56 am

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

  23. 23.

    Chyron HR

    May 7, 2020 at 10:59 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Why would Trump care about other Republicans’ campaigns?  That doesn’t make him any money.

  24. 24.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 7, 2020 at 11:01 am

    @bemused:

    Dems can be a lot more hard hitting without being republican jerks. What’s so hard about that?

    Like this?  or like this? Biden is punching pretty hard, but I don’t know how these ads land with Normies, or where they’re airing.

    This came up the other day, seems like very few people here watch normal TV, especially with sports not airing. I passed through the CBS morning  show looking for headlines– not the one I’m hoping for– and saw my first network trump ad. Him screaming what he thinks is tuff over footage of people cheering for him and him making the thumbs-up gestures. I didn’t think it was good, but I’m about as far from his target audience as you can get

    ETA: and in a sign of the other big problem Biden has, the first comment to that second link is whiny critique from someone whose twitter handle is “Medicare For All Now”

  25. 25.

    Betty Cracker

    May 7, 2020 at 11:01 am

    Parscale’s only shot is to destroy Biden, making the election about him, not about Trump. That’s an easier trick to pull off when you’re 1) not the incumbent, 2) have a 30-year head start attacking your opponent, and 3) aren’t currently presiding over a public health and economic disaster that you’ve publicly botched in every conceivable way.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 11:02 am

    Still time to get your bets in on which week he decides to start referring to it as the Democrat Virus.

    //

  27. 27.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:02 am

    “Are we the baddies?”

  28. 28.

    Ella in New Mexico

    May 7, 2020 at 11:04 am

    @Barbara:

    Maybe “Death Star” was the wrong image.  Then again, if it it prefigures the death of Trump’s status as a star, I hope it is firing on all cylinders.

    I’ve been saying it for a while now…Karma has reached into the Universe and every thing he or his boot lickers or his campaign does is taking him down, all by themselves.

    If we can just survive all the shit he’s gonna do to the country in the meantime and just drag our nearly-dead carcasses cross the finish line  January 19, 2021 we’ll be fine.

  29. 29.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    May 7, 2020 at 11:06 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Yes.  Some of these people are in the process of transitioning from cosplay terrorists to actual ones.

  30. 30.

    AliceBlue

    May 7, 2020 at 11:08 am

    @Jeffro: My husband referred to it as “Bay of Dipshits.”

  31. 31.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 7, 2020 at 11:08 am

    According to CNN, one of Trump’s personal valets has tested positive for COVID

  32. 32.

    low-tech cyclist

    May 7, 2020 at 11:09 am

    Well, they haven’t been blowing up whole planets of innocent people, but 75,000 dead Americans is all too good a start.

  33. 33.

    Steeplejack

    May 7, 2020 at 11:09 am

    @bemused:

    “Whup ass.” Whoop = yell. Whup = beat.

  34. 34.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    May 7, 2020 at 11:10 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: When actually its SpaceBalls and he is Dark Helmet

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    May 7, 2020 at 11:11 am

    @Steeplejack: It’s slang, and either usage is acceptable.

  36. 36.

    bemused

    May 7, 2020 at 11:11 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I don’t know where they are airing on tv either. The first ad was ok but too long and not punchy enough, imo.

    I had already seen cry me a river and loved it. More like that.

    Pretty sure trump badly wants to have big campaign rallies with all his bonehead supporters again. What are the odds he manages to do that?

  37. 37.

    germy

    May 7, 2020 at 11:11 am

    From the White House readout of today’s Trump – Putin call: “President Trump reiterated that the United States is working hard to care for Americans at home and is also ready to provide assistance to any country in need, including Russia.”

    — Philip Crowther (@PhilipinDC) May 7, 2020

  38. 38.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:12 am

    @low-tech cyclist: 

    Well, they haven’t been blowing up whole planets of innocent people…

    Yet.

  39. 39.

    bemused

    May 7, 2020 at 11:13 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I guess both are used but whup ass is better.

  40. 40.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:13 am

    @germy: Well, there go our last few ventilators…

  41. 41.

    Hunter Gathers

    May 7, 2020 at 11:14 am

    Always figured there was a kid somewhere who grew up wanting to be Grand Moff Tarkin.

    Governor Tarkin would make Parscale his bitch in less time that it would take him to state “You may fire when ready.”

  42. 42.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 11:14 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: MSNBC also reporting it. AFAIK, this is the first confirmed case in the WH/Trump’s inner circle. At least, the first they’ve acknowledged.

  43. 43.

    Ella in New Mexico

    May 7, 2020 at 11:14 am

    @JPL:

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

    Yes, but sadly, it’s a sure thing that he is OD’ing on zinc, Plaquenil and Z-packs, plus has diverted a 2 year stash of experimental remdesivir for his own use so…

    By the time this is over he’s more likely to suffer antibiotic-caaused small bowel dysbiosis, cardiac arrhythmias, blindness or perpetual jaundice from liver damage, not COVID.

  44. 44.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 7, 2020 at 11:14 am

    @bemused: another sign of Biden’s problem: Google searches brought up anti-Biden trump ads, and Broderist critiques of Biden ads (“new Biden ad exposes rifts on left…”), before the Biden ads .

  45. 45.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 11:15 am

    There’s a real possibility that Parscale is being set up for a big fall. As we all know, it’s risky to predict the future, but I can hear the cracking concrete. And telling Trump what to do is a danger signal

    ETA: There’s the NYT beat-sweetener article, and Parscale’s competing with Jarvanka, and proximity to Trump is bad news in nearly all cases.

  46. 46.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    May 7, 2020 at 11:15 am

    @JPL:

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

    Is it wrong to admit I was tempted to reach down to fondle myself a bit on that bit of news?

  47. 47.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:16 am

    @Ella in New Mexico: I find your offer acceptable.

  48. 48.

    Heywood J.

    May 7, 2020 at 11:17 am

    TFW when the cosplay dopes who fantasize about being Luke or Han finally get it through their thick skulls that they’ve been played by the Emperor the whole time. Can’t wait to see what logo gets stenciled on their TMNJ Kek shields and traitor-slaver flags for next season.

    I wonder what the women in their lives think about….oh wait, never mind.

  49. 49.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:18 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING THIS QUESTION?

  50. 50.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    May 7, 2020 at 11:18 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Biden is punching pretty hard, but I don’t know how these ads land with Normies, or where they’re airing.

    I don’t know how YouTube ads are chosen, but I sure would appreciate it if the Biden campaign could buy some of those slots so I don’t have to see Prager University or Epoch Times ads fifty million times per video.

  51. 51.

    Brendan in NC

    May 7, 2020 at 11:18 am

    @Barbara: I image it will work out more along the lines of Loki attempting to turn Tony Stark in the first Avengers. “Performnce issues”.

  52. 52.

    cain

    May 7, 2020 at 11:18 am

    “That’s no moon.. that’s your momma!” – The Emperor

  53. 53.

    BigJimSlade

    May 7, 2020 at 11:19 am

    Data, Digital, TV, Political, Surrogates, Coalitions, etc.

    How many of those is Putin in charge of
    But Putin won’t fleece Trump for much, just his soul and his country.

  54. 54.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 7, 2020 at 11:19 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    According to that CNN article, the president, VP, and top advisors are tested regularly. I guess it didn’t occur to him that one of the valets could have it. The little people, you know. They’re invisible

  55. 55.

    patrick II

    May 7, 2020 at 11:20 am

    being mollified by revised polls

    That is pretty much the story of Mr. Tough Guy Trump — am I making the right people happy? Do they really like me? By keeping billionaires Mercers happy by not firing KellyAnn, keeping the coronavirus task force (“I never knew it was so popular”) even though he gave it no plan and has no idea what it should do. Keeping a smile on Mr. Putin’s face, forcing meatpackers back to work in dire conditions to keep the Tysons happy. Tell me I am abusing the weak enough that billionaires will be happy so I can pretend to be president for four more years. That’s all I want to hear.
    Tough guy talk but weak as a kitten. Please don’t tell me what I don’t want to hear. It might hurt my feelings deeply and I will throw a tantrum. Waahh!! someone is being mean to me. Tweet, tweet, tweet. I hate you! I saw you with Joe! I’m not going to prom with you!

  56. 56.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:20 am

    @BigJimSlade: All of them, Katie.

  57. 57.

    Ella in New Mexico

    May 7, 2020 at 11:20 am

    @different-church-lady: me too

    Forgot permanent loss of taste, smell and peripheral neuropathy from toxic doses of zinc.

    So, seriously, you if think he’s an sniffing, clumsy, lumbering edematous orange fart cloud now…:-D

  58. 58.

    Tractarian

    May 7, 2020 at 11:21 am

    Waiting for the GIF with Biden’s face photoshopped onto Luke’s…

  59. 59.

    cain

    May 7, 2020 at 11:24 am

    @bemused:

    I watched Carville last night and definitely agree the Dems need to get more whoop ass on trump and gop. I’ve thought that for years. Dems can be a lot more hard hitting without being republican jerks. What’s so hard about that?

    They are policy nerds – this kind of shit isn’t their gig. That’s why it’s better to offshore it to people like Rick and the Lincoln Project who know how to ratfuck. These guys know how to fuck with their own party better than we do. Seriously they are more popular with Democrats than Democratic politicians because they know how to engage. I mean shit, do you see us putting any Democratic politician other than Nancy on the front page? The never trumpers more often than not.

  60. 60.

    scav

    May 7, 2020 at 11:25 am

    Maybe their big reveal is essentially Trumpty and his stalwart real ‘mercans actually mooning the rest of the nation.  Orange Moon Rising!

     

    Their new battle flag: You Can’t Mask This! (because there would have to be the merchangle)

  61. 61.

    david

    May 7, 2020 at 11:25 am

    SC overturns “Bridgegate” convictions.

    UNANIMOUS ruling. Including Kagan, Sotomayor, and the Notorious RBG.

  62. 62.

    ziggy

    May 7, 2020 at 11:26 am

    One of Trump’s personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus–he is “upset”–waaaaah!

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/politics/trump-valet-tests-positive-covid-19/index.html

    Hope springs eternal…

  63. 63.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    May 7, 2020 at 11:26 am

    @Ella in New Mexico:  So I think the aquarium use hydroxychloroquine prevents the virus from making you sick when taken in a really high dosage.  As a liberal, I am so triggered when people use that to keep the Chinese virus away….

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    May 7, 2020 at 11:26 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s not “usage,” it’s spelling. Nobody pronounces it “whoooop ass.” They pronounce it with the vowel sound like “would” or “push.”

  65. 65.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 11:27 am

    @cain: It’s somewhat annoying to see the never-Trumpers doing what Democrats ought to be doing, but… it’s good that someone is doing it, and doing it well. They’re not stupid and they are extremely, existentially pissed off.

  66. 66.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    May 7, 2020 at 11:28 am

    @cain:

    “That’s no moon.. that’s your momma!” – The Emperor

    Pence:  Mother!  Is that you!?

  67. 67.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:28 am

    @Tractarian: I just hope the fuck he can hit that thermal exhast port.

  68. 68.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 11:32 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I don’t know how YouTube ads are chosen, but I sure would appreciate it if the Biden campaign could buy some of those slots so I don’t have to see Prager University or Epoch Times ads fifty million times per video.

    For a long time I didn’t even realize what the Epoch Times ads were. I would not pay attention and skip past after the five second wait.

    Based on past knowledge, this may be deliberate. They tell the algorithm (oversimplifying), track views of liberal political videos and counterprogram our ads.

    Or someone has given them a boatload of money and they are trying to place their obnoxious ads everywhere.

  69. 69.

    cain

    May 7, 2020 at 11:34 am

    @germy:

    Actually they’ve stopped caring about Americans and looking to extort other countries including Russian.

  70. 70.

    bemused

    May 7, 2020 at 11:35 am

    @cain:

    I agree. Hire people who really know how republican brains work.

  71. 71.

    TaMara (HFG)

    May 7, 2020 at 11:36 am

    @david: I guess I’ll just have to be satisfied that they faced 6 years of humiliation, expense and loss of their livelihood. Still, anyone who suffered from those closures (medical emergencies, especially), I hope they can sue their asses.

  72. 72.

    cain

    May 7, 2020 at 11:36 am

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:

    I must confess, that I stole that from Robot Chicken Star Wars – “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4n0F9R90F0” – enjoy!

  73. 73.

    BobS

    May 7, 2020 at 11:37 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: If this has the storybook ending I’m hoping for- the one that has Pelosi as president- I might have to rethink my agnosticism.

  74. 74.

    Betty Cracker

    May 7, 2020 at 11:37 am

    @Steeplejack: Some people actually do pronounce it as WHOOP-ass, so either form is correct.

  75. 75.

    PST

    May 7, 2020 at 11:37 am

    @Brachiator: The Epoch Times may have a boatload of money to burn. I found a copy in my mailbox recently. Fortunately, with the end of the Charmin shortage here, I didn’t need it. That much insanity can irritate.

  76. 76.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 11:38 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    According to that CNN article, the president, VP, and top advisors are tested regularly. I guess it didn’t occur to him that one of the valets could have it. The little people, you know. They’re invisible

    I recall a story about a wealthy Florida enclave on an island. The residents early on got a bunch of tests that otherwise might have gone to medical folks on the front lines. Anyway, they made sure to get enough for themselves and the staff and workers on the island.

    Trump is just a lowlife idiot who cannot even think two steps ahead.

  77. 77.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 11:38 am

    @different-church-lady: Use Da Schwartz Luke…

  78. 78.

    eric

    May 7, 2020 at 11:39 am

    The reason dems cant do max cleland style ads is because the NYT and its ilk would lose their collective mind(s).  Republicans can do because that is who they are.  Cast to type, as it were.

  79. 79.

    johnnybuck

    May 7, 2020 at 11:40 am

    @Betty Cracker: I know I do!

  80. 80.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 7, 2020 at 11:40 am

    @Tony Jay: LOL

  81. 81.

    chopper

    May 7, 2020 at 11:42 am

    jesus, four star wars films, four, directly portray the bad guys’ planet-killing weapons getting destroyed and their asses kicked.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 11:42 am

    @Steeplejack

    Admittedly haven’t heard it pronounced aloud a lot but those times I have it has been pronounced whoop unless used in verbiage intended to evoke a specific accent or dialect.

    YMMV.

    Could be regional variation, as in pronunciations of roof?

  83. 83.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    May 7, 2020 at 11:44 am

    @cain: Awesome!!

  84. 84.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 11:45 am

    @germy:

    From the White House readout of today’s Trump – Putin call: “President Trump reiterated that the United States is working hard to care for Americans at home and is also ready to provide assistance to any country in need, including Russia.”

    Damn. This is gutsy, to be so open. Trump has essentially written off the American people, but is offering assistance to Russia.

    And his base just sit back and take it.

  85. 85.

    chopper

    May 7, 2020 at 11:46 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    besides which, any attempt to make the election about biden is going to get cockblocked by trump himself. he wants the election to be a referendum on him because he needs all the attention and he really thinks he’s the biggest most successful genius president ever.

  86. 86.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 11:46 am

    @NotMax: It’s spelled whooping cough. That comes from the sound the sufferers make. I always assumed the spelling derived from that. But I’m not a linguist and English spelling is already weird so…

    EDIT: and I pronounce “roof” with a very strange vowel that’s close to “rough” but not quite. So maybe don’t ask me. :P

  87. 87.

    JPL

    May 7, 2020 at 11:47 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: They don’t wear masks, and he showed symptoms yesterday.   trump thinks masks look bad.   If trump wore a mask, it would smudge his makeup, and all would see.

  88. 88.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 11:47 am

    @ziggy:

    Hope springs eternal…

    I’m only a little bit ashamed to admit that my very first thought, upon learning the news, was “ohpleezeohpleezeohpleezeohpleeze…”

    ETA: Should probably add, from an abundance of prudence, that I wish no lasting ill on the valet himself. But, well….

  89. 89.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 11:48 am

    @Brachiator

    provide assistance to any country in need

    Excepting Iran. And Venezuela. And Cuba.

  90. 90.

    PST

    May 7, 2020 at 11:49 am

    @NotMax: I had a college roommate, now a successful lawyer, who pronounced push as poosh and cushion as cooshion. It was regional. I’m sure he would say whoop.

  91. 91.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 11:50 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Come sit six bitter feet away from me…

  92. 92.

    Just One More Canuck

    May 7, 2020 at 11:51 am

    @EmbraceYourInnerCrone:

    Parscale thinks he’s Grand Moff Tarkin, but is really just a dumber, more evil Jar Jar

  93. 93.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 11:51 am

    @chopper: Yup. Trump absolutely believes that as long as he places himself front and center, it will guarantee a win. And… any attempt to modify that belief is dangerous to the attempter.

  94. 94.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 11:51 am

    @NotMax:

    Admittedly haven’t heard it pronounced aloud a lot but those times I have it has been pronounced whoop unless used in verbiage intended to evoke a specific accent or dialect.

    Never heard whoop-ass pronounced as whoop, with long O sounds as in hoop. It doesn’t even make sense.

  95. 95.

    Immanentize

    May 7, 2020 at 11:52 am

    @JPL:

     

    Valet to the president tested positive of Covid.

    Yet another test of my sense of humanity and charity. Trump makes us all lesser.

  96. 96.

    randy khan

    May 7, 2020 at 11:52 am

    @david:

    SC overturns “Bridgegate” convictions.

    I’m not really surprised.  The Court has made it tough to convict people for political corruption, particularly since the decision in the McDonnell case (and, honestly, he was like a cartoon version of a corrupt politician).  Heck, the Feds decided not to continue pursuing the also obviously corrupt Bob Menendez after the McDonnell decision.

  97. 97.

    different-church-lady

    May 7, 2020 at 11:53 am

    @Betty Cracker: Anyone who knows what they’re doing will start with the uh and then slide to the oop smoothly — whuuOOOP ASS!

    Sadly, most people do not know what they’re doing.

  98. 98.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 11:54 am

    @Yutsano

    Yeah, my understanding is in the case of that disease it is onomatopoeic.

  99. 99.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 11:55 am

    @different-church-lady: It’s called a diphthong people! Which is really the only kind of thong people should have anyway.

    (EDIT: it would help if I spelled it right)

  100. 100.

    Another Scott

    May 7, 2020 at 11:56 am

    I’m pretty sure it was Carville that I saw a handful of times driving a Mercedes AMG-GT (ish) car in NoVA a few years ago.  He likes his flashy cars, also too.

    One thing about him, he has no problem living in glass penthouses and throwing rocks.

    The license plate was “ELEVEN”.

    Hehe.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  101. 101.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 11:56 am

    @Brachiator: I suppose it’s the sound of a happy ass.

  102. 102.

    Betty Cracker

    May 7, 2020 at 11:56 am

    @Brachiator: It’s not like “whup” makes a ton of sense either; why not simply unseal a tin of whip-ass? I suspect it’s a regional thing. In my area, “whoop” is as common as “whup.” I prefer “whup” myself.

  103. 103.

    randy khan

    May 7, 2020 at 11:56 am

    @Brachiator:

    Based on past knowledge, this may be deliberate. They tell the algorithm (oversimplifying), track views of liberal political videos and counterprogram our ads.

    I’ve bought online ads occasionally, and you tell the company who you want to target.  More sophisticated ads are triggered by the other sites you visit (which explained all of the ads to buy certain plants from a particularly nursery that I started getting after I had bought those plants from that nursery, although that wasn’t really a great use of that kind of targeting).

  104. 104.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 11:58 am

    @MattF

    Or a wisecrack.

    ;)

  105. 105.

    Walker

    May 7, 2020 at 11:59 am

    So is he saying that his campaign plan has a single point of failure that can easily be exploited?

  106. 106.

    JPL

    May 7, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    @Immanentize: I think that it is perfectly fine to wish the valet well, and hope trump isn’t.

  107. 107.

    Cameron

    May 7, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    @NotMax: And the United States.

  108. 108.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    @Walker: He’s not wrong really…

  109. 109.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    @Yutsano:

    It’s spelled whooping cough. That comes from the sound the sufferers make. I always assumed the spelling derived from that. But I’m not a linguist and English spelling is already weird so…

    But whup-ass is derived from “I’m gonna whip yo ass!”

    So, open up a can of whup-ass on you. Typically, the phrase uses short vowels, to emphasize fast, quick action. And since the actual word “whup” doesn’t really exist, but is informal language,  any spelling is after the fact and arbitrary.

    But this is kinda how English works.

  110. 110.

    bemused

    May 7, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    @JPL:

    Yup, it’s not manly to wear a mask and mess up meticulously applied makeup.

  111. 111.

    Amir Khalid

    May 7, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    @chopper:

    It must mean that these people, as a group, have a very shallow knowledge of popular culture. Boris Johnson is of their ilk. He started out saying that he was following the example of the mayor of Amity in Jaws — keeping the beaches open and the tourists coming and business humming. If you remember how the book/movie ended, you know how that plan worked out; BoJo did not, until he himself got sick.

  112. 112.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    @Yutsano: ?

  113. 113.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    OT.

    Damn, loaf just now taken from the super duper bread machine is so picture perfect it looks too good to eat.

    But shall succumb regardless.

  114. 114.

    JPL

    May 7, 2020 at 12:06 pm

    @NotMax: Enjoy.

  115. 115.

    PST

    May 7, 2020 at 12:07 pm

    @NotMax: According to thesaurus.plus, there was a time when onomatopoetic was used more often than onomatopoeic, but since the forties onomatopoeic has been taking an insurmountable lead. Just thought the world would want to know.

  116. 116.

    Immanentize

    May 7, 2020 at 12:07 pm

    @cain:

    Imm: What is the name of the shadow on the second Moon?
    Stilgar: We call that one, “Votes-for-Biden.”
    I: Then can I be called, “Imm Votes-for-Biden?”
    S: You shall be known as “Imm Votes-for-Biden

  117. 117.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    picture perfect

    So may we please have a picture?

  118. 118.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s not like “whup” makes a ton of sense either; why not simply unseal a tin of whip-ass? I suspect it’s a regional thing. In my area, “whoop” is as common as “whup.” I prefer “whup” myself.

    Posted a longer response above before I saw this.

    Funny, “unseal a tin of whip-ass” sounds formal and dainty and ironic compared to “open a can of whup-ass.” I’ve heard the phrase using whup-ass more in movies and comedy store routines than in real life.

    But I grew up hearing people say “I’m gonna whup yo ass.”

    Could be regional and ethnic.

  119. 119.

    Matt McIrvin

    May 7, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    It’s not that they don’t realize it. Dick Cheney and Steve Bannon both explicitly liked to say they were embracing the Dark Side of the Force, that the power afforded by being like Darth Vader was good and necessary. I’ve been noticing that strain on the right for some time–people who talk about Star Wars and explicitly say they root for the Empire, the torture-and-genocide fans who blow up planets on a whim.

    (This is not the same as saying the Jedi suck. The Jedi do suck. But the Empire are still bad guys.)

    If there’s anything they ignore, it’s that the bad guys eventually lose in these stories–even if you have to kill them multiple times before it happens, even if some of them have to do a heel-face turn. The Empire falls, the Avengers pull a time heist and defeat Thanos. I guess they dismiss all that as a fairy tale; they just see the first part, the rise of the bad guy. The bad guys register as strong, so powerful that they can toss heroes aside like so many rag dolls for the first two-thirds of the movie, and the perception of strength is everything.

  120. 120.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    @PST: I’ve always wondered (idly) why it is that a person who studies physics is a physicist, whereas a person who studies metaphysics is a metaphysician.

  121. 121.

    Matt McIrvin

    May 7, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    @Brachiator: I always preferred “trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored.”

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Only camera is the crappy one in the tablet, which probably needs to be charged as I haven’t used it since the last NY trip. Suffice to say the bread could be the centerfold in Playdough.

  123. 123.

    MoCA Ace

    May 7, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:  I hope the CDC has a two mile perimeter set up… I have a feeling they would be high on the list of deep state targets for these fucking sociopaths.

  124. 124.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    @NotMax: What sort of bread machine?

  125. 125.

    Immanentize

    May 7, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    @Brachiator: If only SteaveIn were here to resolve this thorny issue.

  126. 126.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    @randy khan:

    I’ve bought online ads occasionally, and you tell the company who you want to target.  More sophisticated ads are triggered by the other sites you visit (which explained all of the ads to buy certain plants from a particularly nursery that I started getting after I had bought those plants from that nursery, although that wasn’t really a great use of that kind of targeting).

    Where this might work and is smart: you buy something that you may have to buy again or restock. So you get shown an ad for a place nearby or online that might be useful in the future. Some people may forget it or dismiss it, but some folks might make a note of it.

  127. 127.

    Baud

    May 7, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    When does Trump portray himself as Hannibal Lector?

  128. 128.

    cain

    May 7, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @MattF:

    @cain: It’s somewhat annoying to see the never-Trumpers doing what Democrats ought to be doing, but… it’s good that someone is doing it, and doing it well. They’re not stupid and they are extremely, existentially pissed off.

    The abuse that Rick Wilson probably gets on a daily/hourly basis is probably not something normal democrats can handle. That stuff just flows off him like he’s teflon. He doesn’t give a shit.. and he’s making alliances with other Democratic people – podcasts and the like.

    It’s just not in us to do that. Remember when John first joined as a Democrat – it’s like one of the more things republicans have a hard time to adjusting to – it’s why a lot of us are angry usually at our own party a lot of the time.

  129. 129.

    Immanentize

    May 7, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @NotMax: OK,, Here is a real question for the Jackal Pack —

    I need to get a good web cam for my upcoming totally online Immanentize Criminal Law Show and Musical Review.

    Any cam recommendations?

  130. 130.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    Also, and à propos of nothing, but it turns out that Häagen-Dazs Belgian Chocolate ice cream straight from the container makes a perfectly acceptable Lunch in the Time of Quarantine.

  131. 131.

    MoCA Ace

    May 7, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico: By the time this is over he’s more likely to suffer antibiotic-caaused small bowel dysbiosis, cardiac arrhythmias, blindness or perpetual jaundice from liver damage, not COVID.

    Now your’e just trying to brighten my day!

  132. 132.

    cain

    May 7, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:

    The ones with Boba Fett are particularly funny.. Just so damn funny.

  133. 133.

    PST

    May 7, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Or why is it that a gerontologist studies old people and a geriatrician treats them? Do we really need both words?

  134. 134.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 7, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I must agree. :-)

  135. 135.

    Frankensteinbeck

    May 7, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    @david:

    UNANIMOUS ruling.

    Which means when they say ‘the law doesn’t say this is a crime’ it must be blatantly true.  We need better political corruption laws, which of course are something Mitch McConnell is fanatically opposed to.

  136. 136.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 7, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    @MoCA Ace:

    Now your’e just trying to brighten my day!

    ha!

  137. 137.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: Honestly: not one Jedi foresaw Order 66? Not even Yoda? Was it so out of the realm of possibility that they all were blind to it? And then not one detected the threat from their clones? I know it would have made the dramatic impact of the Jedi being decimated* but come on! Y’all have this immense capability and…nothing?

    @Brachiator: *since we’re going off of words in English being twisted…and the idea of decimation may have been a slander on Rome. It’s not like gathering and training soldiers was exactly a cheap affair.

  138. 138.

    Steeplejack

    May 7, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Way to completely miss the point. ?

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    @MattF

    This beauty. Single negative is that it can be difficult to read the black digital display on its darkish gray background.

  140. 140.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 7, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    @PST: Yes, I think we do in that case. Studying and treating are two different things, and Greek suffixes recognise that.

  141. 141.

    MoCA Ace

    May 7, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    @NotMax:

    Excepting Iran. And Venezuela. And Cuba.

    And the United States.

  142. 142.

    Steeplejack

    May 7, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    @Brachiator:

    The word whup most certainly does exist. It’s in all the dictionaries and everything.

  143. 143.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    @Immanentize

    Don’t know squat about them other than that some gamer acquaintances swear by the Razer Kiyo as an admirably proficient mid-range (under a hundred clams) choice.

  144. 144.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    @NotMax: Currently unavailable on Amazon. I need to get a toaster oven first, though.

  145. 145.

    Steeplejack

    May 7, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Not just in quarantine!

  146. 146.

    Immanentize

    May 7, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    @NotMax: Zojirushi also make the very best fuzzy logic rice cookers.  Very good company.

  147. 147.

    MagdaInBlack

    May 7, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Shall we tell them that when your mama is doing it to your ass, you dont much care how its spelled ? ??

  148. 148.

    MattF

    May 7, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    @Immanentize: Yes. I gifted a Z rice cooker to my sister and BIL, and they are delighted with it– they use it to cook oatmeal every morning.

  149. 149.

    PST

    May 7, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: While that strikes me as a good point, what about oncologists, gastroenterologists, nephrologists, mixologists, and all the other ologists? (I know these as a sickly person who drinks a lot.) What makes gerontologists so special that they don’t have to share?

  150. 150.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    @Immanentize: Heh. I was just telling some Asian friends on Twitter last night that I make bomb ass rice for a white boy. There are many other reasons to get a rice cooker true, but I don’t need it for rice per se.

  151. 151.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    The word whup most certainly does exist. It’s in all the dictionaries and everything.

    Sure, what I meant was that for most people, the oral word came before the written word. The written form of the word is usually informal, and not often used unless used in a short story or novel.

  152. 152.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 7, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: You want to Jawzerciser ads instead?!!??!?!?!  :)  Hehehehe

  153. 153.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    @Immanentize

    Would stop and think long and hard about digging into fuzzy rice.

    :)

    Only appliances they make for which I’ve seen less than stellar reviews are their coffee makers.

    Actually, you’ve reminded me I copied and pasted a recipe for making wild rice bread in the machine which I want to try out.

  154. 154.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    May 7, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I’m only a little bit ashamed to admit that my very first thought, upon learning the news, was “ohpleezeohpleezeohpleezeohpleeze…”

    Come sit by (6 feet from) me!!   I wish for a very mild case and a speedy recovery, for the personal valet (member of the U.S. Navy if I recall correctly).   What the Presidential valets do

  155. 155.

    hueyplong

    May 7, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    You know you’re on one of them weenie librul sites when half the posts wish some/any Demonrat would fight like a Carville/never Trumper and the other half of the posts argues about how to spell whupass, the correct spelling and literary usage of the term being the mother of its actual employment.

    Meanwhile, Trump talks tough while refusing a mask and edging the safety goggles ever so gently onto his nose so as not to smudge a mulch bag’s worth of orange pancake to hide the jaundice God has inflicted upon him as a portent of things to come.

  156. 156.

    NotMax

    May 7, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    @Yutsano

    bomb ass rice

    Is that pronounced bomm or boom?

    :)

    Instant Pot also a champ at making rice.

  157. 157.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 7, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I, for one, am fine with beating Dump’s orange ass to a pulp while yelling at him.

  158. 158.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    May 7, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    @Immanentize: NO idea.  There is this review article however, the first 3 are under 100$:

    5 Best webcams for work remote

  159. 159.

    Yutsano

    May 7, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    @NotMax: I’m not a prescriber to linguistic prescriptivism. You can say your vowels in any way you wish. :]

  160. 160.

    Immanentize

    May 7, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    @EmbraceYourInnerCrone: Thank you all.  It seems that good web cams are pretty much sold out everywhere.  Not surprised, but sad.

  161. 161.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    @Yutsano:

    *since we’re going off of words in English being twisted…and the idea of decimation may have been a slander on Rome. It’s not like gathering and training soldiers was exactly a cheap affair

    People get misled by harping on the idea that decimate did not originally mean “kill everyone.”

    Killing every tenth man in a cohort (480 troops) had a huge impact. And the idea was that the group would be divided into smaller groups of ten, and the nine soldiers in the group would be forced to kill the unlucky person selected for punishment. That’s some brutal shit that would leave psychological impact on everyone remaining.

    Apart from that, word meanings naturally change and develop new associations. I always liked the word boondocks, and am tickled to know that American soldiers brought it from the Philippines after serving in the late 19th century wars there.

  162. 162.

    tam1MI

    May 7, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    @NotMax:

    Excepting Iran. And Venezuela. And Cuba.

    And Michigan. And New York. And Colorado…

  163. 163.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 7, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    as ever, say what you want about Biden (or at least what you want that is within the bounds of the Reality Based Community), he hires good ad people

    Joe Biden @JoeBiden 52m
    Real presidents lead. Reality TV presidents don’t.

  164. 164.

    Geoduck

    May 7, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @Walker: ..That was deliberately installed by a screwed-over pissed-off minion.

  165. 165.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 7, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: The also ignore that it’s Star Wars cannon that even the Imperials though the Death Star was shear idiocy, that the Imperial fleet could render planets lifeless the planets the Emperor wanted rendered lifeless  with it’s Star Destroyers and the Death Star project sucked resources away from more important projects.

    That was sort of Lucas point with Star Wars, that silencing all dissent isn’t successful in the long term (so naturally Lucas did just that at Lucas Film).

  166. 166.

    JoyceH

    May 7, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Hey, aren’t people who have been expose supposed to self-quarantine for 14 days? Trump is going to be taking part in some White House Prayer Day thing today. You just know attendance is going to be mandatory and masks will most likely be absent. 1600 could be the new hot spot.

  167. 167.

    J R in WV

    May 7, 2020 at 1:31 pm

    @No One of Consequence:

    I cannot fathom the strategy at work here. Stupidity isn’t reason enough for my conscience.

    How about evil, greedy, self-centered stupidity?? Does that get closer to the mark for you? Perhaps with a dose of fascism and racism? A Big Dose!!

  168. 168.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    May 7, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    @JoyceH: Already is, one of his military aids has the virus.

  169. 169.

    J R in WV

    May 7, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    By the time this is over he’s more likely to suffer antibiotic-caaused small bowel dysbiosis, cardiac arrhythmias, blindness or perpetual jaundice from liver damage

    All sounds good to me as long as we’re all still talkin’ about Trump and his minions in the White House…

  170. 170.

    satby

    May 7, 2020 at 2:07 pm

    @MattF: look at resale shops when they open / reopen in your area. Bread machines show up often there. I scored a Zorushi 1 lb loaf bread machine for $7 once. Mint condition. But most of the models available will usually be near mint; apparently it’s one of those things people buy, use once, and then get rid of.

  171. 171.

    Chief Oshkosh

    May 7, 2020 at 2:11 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

     

    or Epoch Times ads fifty million times per video.

    God, no shit. That fucking Epoch Times twerp badly needs a punch in his smarmy nose. Christwhattanasshole.

  172. 172.

    Uncle Cosmo

    May 7, 2020 at 2:18 pm

    @Immanentize: Any cam recommendations?

    At last look, Cam Newton was still unsigned… ;^p

  173. 173.

    Citizen Alan

    May 7, 2020 at 2:27 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: A dumb question perhaps, but did Obama have a “personal valet” let alone several? I feel sure I’d have heard that shouted from the mountaintops if he did by pundits who said it showed how out of touch Obama was with common people.

  174. 174.

    Mo MacArbie

    May 7, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    C’mon, where is the whoop-ass? It’s in a can. What else comes in cans? Cheez and kreme.

  175. 175.

    Geoduck

    May 7, 2020 at 2:44 pm

    @Citizen Alan: There’s a link up at reply 154 detailing all of that.

  176. 176.

    Uncle Cosmo

    May 7, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh: That fucking Epoch Times twerp badly needs a punch in his smarmy nose.

    I was at one point contemplating a 3-group in the center forehead – but since we are already short one Phule here (our Bloglord of Naked Mopping having put down the swab, put on some trousers, picked up his 36″ corked-&-weighted Louisville Sluggard banbat & hammered his butt out to the vicinity of the Dumbbell Nebula) I shall demur. :^D

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