Further evidence that the President and his team are a bunch of fucking idiots:
President Trump was pushing to get out in the public eye in recent weeks and tout his leadership during the pandemic, and White House staff thought they had hit on the ideal event: a presidential visit to thank the Pennsylvania factory workers who had recently taken herculean steps to ramp up U.S. supplies of protective equipment.
Workers had received national attention after dozens of them lived for 28 days inside their factory so they could ensure they were virus-free and their production was not contaminated or disrupted by illness.
White House officials pressed to hold an event at the Braskem factory, initially scheduled for last Friday. But after extensive back and forth, factory officials ultimately asked to postpone, worried that a visit from Trump could jeopardize both the safety of the workers and the plant’s ability to produce special material for masks and other medical gear, according to two people familiar with the decision and documents reviewed by The Post.
First off, the last fucking thing any of these factories need is a bunch of idiots tromping through them in the midst of a pandemic. Any normal, sentient human being would have understood this already.
But what makes this extra special amazing is that President Shit-For-Brains, desperate to Leni Riefenstahl his ass out of this mess, can’t even do that because of his own idiotic bravado of refusing to wear a mask. The last god damned thing any company that has quarantined their staff for months to safely produce sterile equipment will do is allow this dipshit and his team of choads to flounce off Pox Force One, refuse to wear masks and gloves, and then drool all over everything in sight.
Baud
PatientPresident Zero.Skepticat
Thank goodness the company was that sensible. It would be especially tragic to have all their hard work and superb effort destroyed by idiots.
Elizabelle
That WaPost article was masterfully written. Before these passages appear, it was a litany of all the maskless and contagious visits to which Trump and Pence subjected their hosts. Braskem was watching carefully throughout.
Ruckus
I’m sure I wasn’t the first to call him shitforbrains and I’m also sure that he deserves that moniker at a minimum. I have reduced it to one word because he’s so much shit in one package that it’s really his trademark…
Elizabelle
@Baud: LOL. In so many senses.
Gozer
I’m never surprised at this, but it’s always jarring to see how he can’t functionally learn.
Ella in New Mexico
Superspreader Two for Pence’s plane?
dexwood
@Baud:
You win. Everyone else can go home.
Elizabelle
And Pence’s eye is …. where??
CaseyL
@dexwood: Yeah, but Cole’s “Pox Force One” is also pretty damn good.
Uncle Jeffy
“…desperate to Leni Reifenstahl his way out of this…
Cole for the win!
eemom
Have I mentioned that the continued existence of Dump and Dense proves that there are some things too filthy for even a virus to touch?
dexwood
@CaseyL: Close second for me. Judges?
Ruckus
@Baud:
Zero might lead one to conclude that he hadn’t done anything and he has. He’s done plenty, sure it’s all entirely, massively negative, but given his entire life that’s all he’s ever done. And as president he’s gone farther negative than anyone ever before. A new low in negative human endeviors.
Redshift
Especially since he was touching stuff right and left when he visited the plant in Arizona!
mrmoshpotato
On a good note, Happy Twilight Zone Day everyone.
lamh36
So can we STOP with the Kamala for AG push. Folks been telling ’em Kamala said no to AG when asked by the first Black President. Why would she say yes to Biden or any of the possible candidate if it hadn’t been Biden…IJS?,
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: He is President Negative Infinity. He is undefined, making him President was like dividing by zero. I will never forgive those who voted for him because the woman was too icky.
Brachiator
@Baud:
President Less Than Zero
rikyrah
TupeloPhoney
Before I even bothered talking about whether it would be possible to set up a protocol sufficient to protect the personnel of the company, my first question would be how much over expenses the Trump campaign would be paying for the use of the facilities. No matter what they said I’d then laugh and hang up.
Elizabelle
@lamh36: Adam Schiff would be a great Attorney General. So much rebuilding to be done at the DOJ.
And maybe he can prosecute the current AG. Someone should.
mrmoshpotato
@rikyrah: Was Steve Schmidt in a coma from 2009 through 2016?
lamh36
rikyrah
NotMax
@Baud
Historical look back mini-series to come later on: Band of Zeroes.
;)
Gin & Tonic
Boy, that last paragraph is sheer poetry, easily worth twice what I pay for the Platinum membership.
mrmoshpotato
@rikyrah: Awwwww. Should we salt the earth with kosher salt or iodized salt?
ETA – h/t to Driftglass – Oh shit, our decades-old monster factory finally made a monster!
lamh36
WaterGirl
@lamh36: So far I have heard Kamala and Stacey Abrams state unequivocally that they would like to be VP. Good for them; I’m not all that fond of the coy replies we have seen in past election years.
I loved Stacey’s reply, when asked, something like “as a black woman, you have to put yourself forward in order to be noticed”. I loved that she said that, hated that it’s true.
Has anyone else made their interest crystal clear? (Publicly.)
Another Scott
@lamh36: I know the timing is wrong, unless the current FBI Director resigns, but I would really like to see someone of her (or Eric Holder’s) stature be head of the FBI. The 10 year term enables someone to hold the office long enough to see substantial, and well overdue, changes made in that agency and in law-enforcement in general. An African American (or American Indian) or similar representative from a long-oppressed group needs to hold that office, and have the power to make changes. The symbolism is vitally important.
Yeah, Attorney General is important, too, and boss of the FBI. But they’re often not there very long…
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
wseattle
Fun fact – that Braskem plant in Marcus Hook, PA is about two miles from where Biden went to high school. Biden country.
lamh36
@WaterGirl: Harris has been a bit more subtle, but I have no issue with either her or Abrams. Thought I’ll admit in other circles the overtness of Abrams approach has been rubbing folks the wrong way. but otherwise I have no issue with much of it
Gin & Tonic
@WaterGirl: Baud is waiting for the right moment.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: I think it’s fair to say that in these partisan times, if the Republicans get the presidency again, ever, there will be no respect for 10-year timelines.
Trump has shown you can fire people at the drop of a hat, with no cause other than that you don’t like them, don’t like that they do their job, or like their political party.
laura
I’m sure that anybody in a position of authority at Braskem saw what all the rest of the world saw when the attention whore in chief went traipsing all over Honeywell touching raw material and finished products contaminating every square in within his path of destruction. The blaring Live and Let Die reinforced the sheer awfulness and high risk behavior and need to deep clean and throw out what had been safe sterile products not to mention possibly infecting the workers. Braskem respected the sacrifices their workers made in self isolating on the job. That’s a model to follow. Just say no to the plague rat in chief.
NotMax
@rikyrah
Mr. Nilsson on line 1.
;)
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I would take either of them in a heartbeat.
What time is “freedom hour” on Wednesday?
edit: I think Wednesday is when you take your last exam, right?
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah:
Well, isn’t that too bad. If only they’d had some way of stopping him earlier.
bbleh
Man that took some serious brass on the part of the CEO. Good for him! Yay PA.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: And then there’s the whole sex-change thing, since Biden announced a female.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
FTFY.
WaterGirl
@laura: People can stand up to Trump, they just need the balls to do it.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Baud! will valiantly put the male parts into a blind trust.
:)
WaterGirl
@NotMax: hahahahaha
Gin & Tonic
@WaterGirl: A minor obstacle.
trollhattan
@Brachiator:
“Calling Mister Oswald with the swastika tattoo.”
trollhattan
@Elizabelle:
If Harris becomes VP I foresee Schiff getting her senate seat. Not that he wouldn’t be a good choice to mop-and-bucket Justice, but I’d love him to be on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: Harris is the more conventional choice, and Biden is a very conventional politician. Also, from what I’ve read she had very friendly relationship with Beau Biden, and I think that carries a lot of weight with the old man.
lamh36
@WaterGirl: yep. 6pm is when the test will be administered
Its been soo busy at the lab that I haven’t had time to study except when I get home. But I’m off all day Wednesday, so I’ll get more studying in up until I take the test.
Thanks for asking
thalarctosMaritimus
Anybody got a cigarette? Because I’m really needing one now.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Yay, they’ve reached the eating each other stage! With Kushner as the main course!
And then there’s this:
It doesn’t even occur to them to do the one thing that would work: Actually govern, show some leadership, and run on that.
lamh36
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: that’s true.
I suspect she’s def in the top tier of choices, you can tell because the NYT and politco are both out today with pieces on Harris. One does not want to cause them hit pieces, but they def were a bit full of bank handed hit points.
lamh36
Uh huh
mrmoshpotato
I, for one, am massively unqualified to be Biden’s VP. To quote General Sherman, If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve.
I don’t know if Baud has chimed in.
Leto
@zhena gogolia: As we know Republicans have no agency, no ability to control anything around them… unless it’s inflicting horrible policy on people. Or tax cuts for the wealthy.
schrodingers_cat
Is it just me or has the Orange one started resembling Putin’s predecessor?
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: Russian stooges you can cry me a river.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: I think he may have more power and influence where he is.
RedDirtGirl
Does this look like disaster capitalism to anyone else? Or is it just me?
oatler.
The Masque of the Red Covfefe
WaterGirl
@lamh36: So by 7 you should be a free bird! That will feel good. Time has been so weird lately; I was trying to remember whether this was a 2-year program. I’m sure it wasn’t one year, and I don’t think it was 3.
TS (the original)
@bbleh:
Fortunately he knows he has a direct market with the states – regardless as to how trump tries to bring him down.
He did what a first class hospital administrator failed to do. Keep people & product safe.
WaterGirl
@RedDirtGirl: The word “this” carries a lot of weight there. What in particular are you thinking of, or is it the entire last 3 years?
lamh36
I think this is putting out feelers to see what comes
So far there has been 2 or 3 stories on Kamala and the VP sweepstakes, added to that some reporting that Kamala soon will partner with Rep Clyburn for COVID legislation to come.
hmmm
Leto
@WaterGirl: @Another Scott: When a new president is elected, each head of agency tenders their resignation. It’s up to the incoming president whether they accept or not. Anyone appointed during Shitbird’s time should be auto-axed. Resignation accepted. And if they don’t submit one, then yes, fire them. I don’t really care how well you did your job during your tenure here. I don’t care if you thought you were preventing worse shit from happening. I don’t care if you had bipartisan support. You’re all gone.
TS (the original)
@lamh36:
Mention of them wearing masks in the following tweets to that one. I believe the person who said trump won’t wear a mask because it would mess with his makeup. Best reason & probably the truth.
Another Scott
Franken Podcast – Interview with Dr. Larry Brilliant on where we go from here on COVID-19 (53:06).
(I haven’t listened to it yet, myself.)
Cheers,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
Nah. Yeltsin had a scrap of decency in him.
WaterGirl
@Leto: Could not agree more.
Gin & Tonic
@Leto: I think the bloodthirsty among us should temper our expectations for the eventual (I dearly hope) Biden presidency. One reason he is popular is that he does not come across as perpetually seeking vengeance.
trollhattan
@WaterGirl:
My scenario is Harris becomes VP, Dems flip senate, and then Schiff gets the Harris senate seat. Would that not give Schiff a much higher ceiling? (Also stipulating that DiFi is not running for term the infinity.)
Eric U.
@WaterGirl: Biden should ask Wray to resign and put a Democrat in the FBI spot
lamh36
@WaterGirl: Maybe closer to 8pm. The test is in two parts. Multiple choice part open for 1 hr, and a problem section open for 2 hours.
So it’ll be all but done by 7 maybe 7:30. Dependig on how hard he makes the multiple choice part…
It’s a 2 year program but can be a bit longe. Fall ’18 to Spring 20. I started w/one Fall ’18 class just to acclimate myself to being back in school. Then 2 classes for Spr ’19 and Sum ’19. Then 3! classes a week for the final two semesters (Fall ’19 & Sprg ’20)
ETA: This should be classes per week
trollhattan
@schrodingers_cat:
The correct predecessor would be Andropov. Tick-tock, muddafukka.
different-church-lady
Leni Riefenstahl as a verb: impressive!
The Thin Black Duke
@Gin & Tonic: Besides, as the old saying goes, “Living well is the best revenge”, and the day that Trump is no longer President of the United States will be one of the happiest days of my life.
different-church-lady
@RedDirtGirl: “I don’t see any method at all, sir.”
different-church-lady
@Gin & Tonic: That’s the first way he’s going to fail us!
leeleeFL
@mrmoshpotato: Not at all, he was a Republican then. He has since become a Citizen, because tRump. Not sure what the expiration date might be
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: Typically Senate > House. But if we win the presidency, or don’t, at this point in history, being Chair of Intelligence in the House gives him more REAL power than being the junior senator from CA
edit: I think so, anyway.
WaterGirl
@Eric U.: Absolutely YES!
please read that as bolded, in color, and flashing.
different-church-lady
@rikyrah: It’s not to late for the republicans to nominate Bernie.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: By the time I got to my last exam in grad school, I SO just wanted to be done, I’m not sure I gave that exam my best effort.
I guess my “one hour” guess was based on my own experience. I tried to still care at that point, I really did. :-)
edit: 3 classes a week? holy shit!
Realist
Mike Pence is the VP this country deserves.
different-church-lady
@lamh36:
Not a thing that is possible.
WaterGirl
@The Thin Black Duke: You are helping me get through this, with your steady view of the big picture. You add perspective.
Redshift
@WaterGirl:
Elizabeth Warren was asked by Rachel Maddow if she would serve as Biden’s VP if asked, and she answered a straight up “yes.”
different-church-lady
@WaterGirl: We don’t yet know what Baud is willing to give for his… uh… her country.
WaterGirl
@Redshift: Good. I am liking these women.
different-church-lady
@WaterGirl: The first thing they need to do is realize they have nothing to gain by working with or flattering Trump.
This is the hurdle too many people can’t clear.
laura
@WaterGirl: roadie brother the younger did it twice – to his face, once in 1991 and again in 1999.
Barbara
@laura: These events, and specifically, all the advance planning and air travel required to make them happen, probably helped to spread the contagion within the White House.
trollhattan
Missed this in the other kerfuffle.
Trump has gone full I know you are but what am I?
different-church-lady
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
The can’t do that. I mean, literally, they’re not capable of doing that.
Barbara
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
It’s mind blowing. Even someone as hapless as GWB figured out how to claw popularity out of the clutches of a disaster.
lamh36
@WaterGirl: yep… 3 classes a week this semester and the last, so that I could graduate in 2 years instead of 2 1/2 or 3.
Oh and you can best believe I’ve already calculated just how well I have to do to get a higher grade (I’m currently at a B+) or just keep the same grade (at this point I just want to be done, so I’ll take that B).
I mean I’d like to do my best, so I’m gonna study as much as I can but still I am just tired and ready to be done…LOL
Leto
@Gin & Tonic: It’s not vengeance. It’s in line with his op-ed with Warren: we’re not looking past this. It’s being clear eyed/level headed in recognizing the absolute failure with everyone connected to this administration. You can be a “good guy” and still recognize this. Give’em a “thanks for your service” as they head out the door to collect their wing nut welfare. Nobody connected with this administration needs to be in his future administration, or anywhere there might be a decision made. No one.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@trollhattan: To me that read like your average internet discussion-forum loon.
LOON: [random crazy theory]
RATIONAL PERSON: Do you have anything like a cite for that?
LOON: Do your own research!
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: My last grad school exam was my thesis defense. And my committee and I all wanted it over fast, so we pretty much set a record for that sort of thing; I was done in less than an hour. My labmates setting up the traditional post-defense party were pissed; they were nowhere near ready once I emerged from the exam.
(A few weeks prior, our research center gave a long presentation to convince NSF to keep giving us money. I gave one of the technical talks, which was basically my thesis. After all the rehearsals and then the actual presentation, everyone had heard the damn thing probably a dozen times and had gone through it in excruciating detail. Enough was enough.)
laura
I just want to go “on record” that if Joe Biden selects Kamala Harris as his running mate, I will work that campaign’s GOTV like a rented, red haired step-mule. And I’d help out where I could to get either Ted Lieu or Adam Schiff elected to the CA Senate to fill her Senate seat.
oatler.
@different-church-lady:
Hey, stay away from the Leni Riefenstahl bit! That’s my bit! (mainly when criticizing John Hughes movies)
dmsilev
@different-church-lady: All he’d really have to do is have the humility to realize he was in over his head and let the professionals handle things. Couldn’t even do that, not by a long shot. Instead, we got “maybe drinking bleach will help?”.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: I was just comparing the physical resemblance. Orange is looking more and more like a Russian oligarch.
sdhays
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, wow. I think you’re right, that’s quite a game changer. I’ve always thought that Kamala would be the best fit for Joe. Of all the candidates, she has a warmth and happy-warrior vibe that reminds me of Obama (while being stylistically different), and rekindling that kind of chemistry would be dynamite in the campaign and in the administration. (And I don’t mean that other candidates aren’t warm or happy warriors, just that the feel of Kamala gets the closest to the feel of Obama, at least to me.) Of course, I just really like Kamala, so I may be biased.
@John Cole: “Pox Force One” is simply perfect. Thank you!
trollhattan
@WaterGirl:
Short term I think you’re right WRT power in hand. Provided Feinstein doesn’t run again in 2024 at a sprightly 91, the junior senator status changes in four years. But waiting until 2024 to run for her seat probably keeps him the junior senator in perpetuity.
WaterGirl
@different-church-lady: You are so very right about that.
WaterGirl
@laura: That made me smile.
The Thin Black Duke
@WaterGirl: Aww. Thanks.
Bill Arnold
@Gin & Tonic:
Don’t need vengeance. Do need a reasonably complete accounting of Republican/D.J.Trump administration malfeasance.
For the record.
If prosecutions happen, they happen.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I am nodding as I read your comment. As you get so close to being done, it is making me feel like the end of my grad school days was yesterday. its’ like I am being transported back in time, so I feel you.
Sometimes you’re just READY TO BE DONE.
I remember thinking before my last exam: it will be over in two hours no matter how I do. :-)
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
I’m kicking myself now that I forget the author but I read an opinion piece last week about how Abrams putting herself forward in that manner was considered very bad form and that there was some protocol at work I had never heard of.
These two smart women know that if Biden wins and they’re in the co-pilot seat 2024 is looking ripe. Folks here have cogently argued that Kamala Harris as the person handling the work of undoing the crimes of the Trump regime would be a perfect fit with Uncle Joe leading yet another massive recovery from GOP perfidy.
sdhays
@dmsilev: That’s no joke. If he was merely bumbling around at least sort of trying to do the right thing (like BoJo, who is not called the British Trump for nothing), I would be worried about the election because the curve for awful white men would make him Churchillian in some quarters.
But no, he has to do a smash and grab and have a mental break down on the unfairness of being cooped up in the (very) White House and people not sacrificing their lives to keep his precious Dow Index high.
mrmoshpotato
BWHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!
You mean the Soviet shitpile mobster manchild who fell fat-orange-fascist-ass backwards into the White House?
I’m waiting for these shitstains-on-democracy to threaten to shoot the virus.
Bill Arnold
@different-church-lady:
Yeah, I looked around a bit to see if it was an original verbing; didn’t find any other examples.
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: Less than an hour?!?!?!!!!!!
Okay, after reading your second paragraph, I can see how that was possible. But wow!
Realist
Does anyone else think it’s time to consider partition?
A division of the US between Red and Blue states. Rip the band aid off, with necessary population transfers between the two new nations—one a Scandinavian social democracy, the other a neo-Confederacy.
Miss Bianca
@lamh36: I am rooting for Kamala for VP, personally.
sdhays
@Realist: Why do you hate America?
@Realist: No.
WaterGirl
@HumboldtBlue: Maybe it was the “uppity woman didn’t know her place” issue? Too aggressive?
I had no problem with it.
Realist
@sdhays: “America” as a united country may be finished as a going concern. Why should Blue States continue to subsidize the Red States with their wealth?
lamh36
I’m REALY proudest of this grade this semester of all of them, not just because I knew nothing bout Marketing, but because I really did use my managerial skills to keep my team focused the best with this class!
https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/1260018424341618688
The Thin Black Duke
@Realist:
No.
sdhays
@Realist: I refuse to abandon millions of decent people to red America.
trollhattan
@Realist:
I welcome the new Norwegian overlords and their well-raked forests. And lefse.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I guess I hadn’t heard how that turned out.
It sounds like you didn’t have to use the “in case of emergency, break glass, pre-written backup plan” in case the others on your team didn’t come through.
Congratulations on the successful herding of cats!
Elizabelle
@lamh36: Yea lamh! At the home stretch. Wishing you all the best with your final exam(s).
And you did manage that team.
TS (the original)
@WaterGirl: I was hearing re Abrams – She doesn’t have enough experience
After trump even baud has enough experience
Lapassionara
@sdhays: Thank you, from Missouri
Bill Arnold
@Realist:
You’re seriously arguing for the destruction of the United States? Interesting. (Also, hi new nym)
lamh36
@WaterGirl: No the one group member who’d been slacking off, basically did so againg, but the majority of the work was done w/the first draft, so the other 3 ladies did come through in the end. Plus the marketing professor while she was def knowledgeable, I’m still not 100% sure she even seriously read any of the final, just enough to complete the final check list.
Also a good consequence of the COVID pandemic forcing everything online meant we didn’t have to do a formal presentation. That’s where she would have DEF saw the un-preparedness.
Anyway…bygones. I got that A, so I ain’t gonna dwell on it anymore
Skepticat
@eemom: Have I mentioned that the continued existence of Dump and Dense proves that there are some things too filthy for even a virus to touch?
Professional courtesy from one disgusting thing to others perhaps?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@sdhays:
Me, too
@laura: Barry Sonnenfeld (director, Men In Black, long time cameraman for the Coen bros) told a story on Marc Maron’s show about directing some I Love NY type ad with a bunch of other NY celebs in I forget which iconic Manhattan setting. Trump demanded the cameras be moved so that he could be filmed from his good side. Sonnenfeld said, we can’t do that, we don’t have time. trump said, then I’m not doing it, so BS said, “Fine” and moved on to the next celeb. trump hung around for fifteen minutes and finally came back and said, “All right, I’ll do it”, and BS told him it was too late, they’d moved. A small good feeling, knowing that happened.
Also, more relevantly, I’m sure it drives him crazy every time someone asks Nancy Pelosi to react to something he said, and she says, “Oh, who cares?”
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
I don’t recall it was written in that way, more about how one does these type of things properly way.
Nicole
So… I guess Bryan Adams is an a-hole, too:
https://twitter.com/bryanadams/status/1259872360930463750
debbie
@Elizabelle:
Can’t wait to see how strong he is when COVID knocks him flat.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Finally, a silver lining to COVID. :-)
I agree, all’s well that ends well. Plus, you got the A!
WaterGirl
@HumboldtBlue: Ah. Well, she’ll either get it or she won’t. but she’s my top choice for VP.
WaterGirl
@debbie: The arrogance of thinking you are “too good” to get a fucking virus.
WaterGirl
@debbie: I am trying not to wish COVID on him, but I do confess to some gleeful feelings as I hear about each new case in the White House. Which officially makes me a bad person, so Trump does indeed turn everything he touches to shit.
RedDirtGirl
@WaterGirl: Well the entire Trump presidency, for sure. But specifically the pandemic response, which feels like a smash and grab operation: allow things to go wrong/make things worse, then profit from the crisis
Thanks for the note about my imprecise word choice, by the way. ?
Ocotillo
I used to want Trump prosecuted and spend the rest of his life in jail.
Now I want him to fall out of a window like so many of Putin’s critics do….
dc
Thank you for the last paragraph. I really needed that.
Realist
@sdhays: Population transfers between the separated states would take care of this.
By remaining with the Red States, we’re subjecting millions of rational people to be governed by insane federal policy as well as continuing to subsidize the Red States with our tax dollars.
Elizabelle
@debbie: Donald is willing to die for
beautyvanity.JCJ
@WaterGirl: Quinerly’s new pooch?
WaterGirl
@RedDirtGirl: Then yes on disaster capitalism, with an emphasis on COVID. :-)
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: He totally is. What an odd pseudo-human Trump is.
WaterGirl
@JCJ: I don’t speak Spanish, so those posts are lost on me.
debbie
@WaterGirl:
Considering how contagious it is, it would be remarkable if he didn’t get it.
Ksmiami
@Gin & Tonic: he shouldn’t be vengeful, but the rest of us can be.
trollhattan
@Elizabelle:
Thinking that Donny is okay with us dying for his vanity. He’s invincible!
WaterGirl
@debbie: The “you don’t have to wear a mask when you’re at your desk” in the white house thing enrages me.
All they care about is Trump and the other people “who matter”. They don’t care if you wear your mask at your desk because they are stupid enough to think you are no threat to then if you are at your desk
edit: I’m closing my computer so I can calm down before bedtime. ‘Night all!
Chief Oshkosh
@Gin & Tonic: Following the law is not seeking vengeance.
JCJ
@WaterGirl:
Neither do I, but I thought Quinerly picked a Spanish speaking dog to shore up the Hispanic vote since Poco did not get chosen to be Baud’s running mate
The Lodger
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Yay, they’ve reached the eating each other stage! With Kushner as the main course!
All those Botox injections don’t make for good eatin’.
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
I’ve been convinced it’s Harris.
Michael Cohen at the Boston Globe convinced me a week ago.
Ruckus
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
This is true. I wonder why that might be?
Kattails
@TS (the original): Umm, really Kamala has far more national/executive experience than Abrams. Given the age of Biden, I do think this is a serious concern. And as much as I loathe Trump and his spectacular stupidity, he is also a walking argument for actual professional political experience. I refuse to buy the notion that “politics” is a dirty word. There will be politics one way or another, it can be civilized or it can be at the point of some random individual or random armed group’s gunpoint.
Dan B
@lamh36: Great little chart of hot spots and the good news locations like Snohomish County WA. Snohomish County os on Opie Jean’s doorstep.
mad citizen
Still my have my Kamala sticker on the back of my SUV, though few see it these days. She makes sense for the VP slot, and I don’t want to have read her book for nothing :). The Cohen column lays it out. Abrams should not be lobbying for this.
SFBayAreaGal
Dang, I don’t smoke, however John’s post has me wanting to light one up. It was sooooo good. Sigh
Dan B
@schrodingers_cat: For some reason I was expecting a picture of a cat. Not that I would wish the horror of resembling Trump or Yeltsin on any feline.
Bill Arnold
“Trump’s Feeling Is, ‘Why Are We Losing Everywhere?’”: With Advisers Feuding and Numbers Plummeting, Trump Eyes Campaign Shake-up – Brad Parscale (and his Ferrari) is in the hot seat. Kushner is pushing for Nick Ayers, and against a Corey Lewandowski return. But whose fault are the disastrous swing state numbers? (Gabriel Sherman, May 11, 2020)
That’s a rhetorical question, I presume.
This is also funny:
And it does not include the recent pivot to “Blame Obama”. Who will, if pushed into media interviews, suck all the oxygen out of the lungs of the D.J. Trump 2020 campaign.
zhena gogolia
@Leto:
I agree with you. It’s not what I would term vengeance.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
I know — I just feel that even bloated old alcoholic Yeltsin doesn’t really look like Trump because there’s a tiny gleam of humanity in him that Trump is devoid of. He did stand on the tank, we have to give him that. Trump couldn’t have done that in a million years.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: I would be fine with vengeance, personally, but I do agree with G&T that we need to temper our expectations. I cringe every time somebody brings up criminal prosecution, not because I don’t think trump, and Barr, and probably a lot of other people have broken the law in spirit, I think we’re going to be disappointed if we make criminal convictions the standard of the Biden presidency, which is not yet a sure thing anyway. It seems like hardly a week goes by here that some otherwise sensible person takes a whack at the dead horse of “Obama went too easy on Wall St….”
That said: Leto’s suggestion of a thorough house-cleaning of senior personnel is a good one.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: and Yeltsin could dance the pants off of trumpkin!
mad citizen
I still think Trump will resign instead of taking a defeat in November. If trying to blame China is the best they have, they have nothing (well we all know they have nothing. In a sane, educated nation the margin would be 90-10, not 49-40.)
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: True
rikyrah
Duane
Starting a court battle with Obama is a fool’s errand, and Trumpov is just the fool to do it. Remind the public just before the election you’re Putin’s guy, and give Obama a reason to take the gloves off. It’s a fight I’d like to see.
H.E.Wolf
Naw, he’s just joshin’ with us. A fine American like him, he certainly knows the Dan’l Webster Rule:
http://www.tkinter.smig.net/Stuff/DevilAndDanielWebster/index.htm
Another Scott
@HumboldtBlue:
WTF??!
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/stacey-abrams-biden-vice-president/610441/
Answering questions honestly is being “ostentatious” now?
Overused meme, but appropriate.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@H.E.Wolf: Nice!
Cosign.
My ancestors didn’t fight for this country for me and mine to just give up after a few corrupt grifters have tried to break everything.
The good stuff is never really free – it takes effort and determination and work to keep. Eyes on the prizes.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
dww44
@WaterGirl: Sorry if this has already been posted, but several weeks ago Elizabeth Warren answered unequivocally “Yes” when Rachel Maddow asked her directly if she would accept the Vice-Presidency if she were asked.
TruthOfAngels
@zhena gogolia: But he’d tell you for two hours how he would have stood on the tank, and how he did stand on the tank, and how only losers stand on tanks, and how shut up I hate you and then run away.
And isn’t that the real heroism?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@dww44: I didn’t like that, either. Warren and Abrams both put Biden in the position of (potentially) having to explain why didn’t pick at least one and probably both of them, with so many people, among the Bernie-left and the media, for different reasons, so eager to create difficult situations for Biden, our side shouldn’t be helping them. There’s nothing wrong with tact.
Sebastian
@Bill Arnold:
Early morning shift in St. Petersburg.
Bill Arnold
@H.E.Wolf:
Thank you; reading that for the first time was a treat.
Link was broken for me, here’s another: The Devil and Daniel Webster by Stephen Vincent Benet, 1936
Uncle Cosmo
Nope. Maybe If he could’ve been arsed to check the spelling of Riefensthal before posting.
Uncle Cosmo
@Uncle Cosmo: Apparently someone fixed it for him. Oh well, coverups happen…
jefft452
@Leto: seconded