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Further evidence that the President and his team are a bunch of fucking idiots:

President Trump was pushing to get out in the public eye in recent weeks and tout his leadership during the pandemic, and White House staff thought they had hit on the ideal event: a presidential visit to thank the Pennsylvania factory workers who had recently taken herculean steps to ramp up U.S. supplies of protective equipment.

Workers had received national attention after dozens of them lived for 28 days inside their factory so they could ensure they were virus-free and their production was not contaminated or disrupted by illness.

White House officials pressed to hold an event at the Braskem factory, initially scheduled for last Friday. But after extensive back and forth, factory officials ultimately asked to postpone, worried that a visit from Trump could jeopardize both the safety of the workers and the plant’s ability to produce special material for masks and other medical gear, according to two people familiar with the decision and documents reviewed by The Post.

First off, the last fucking thing any of these factories need is a bunch of idiots tromping through them in the midst of a pandemic. Any normal, sentient human being would have understood this already.

But what makes this extra special amazing is that President Shit-For-Brains, desperate to Leni Riefenstahl his ass out of this mess, can’t even do that because of his own idiotic bravado of refusing to wear a mask. The last god damned thing any company that has quarantined their staff for months to safely produce sterile equipment will do is allow this dipshit and his team of choads to flounce off Pox Force One, refuse to wear masks and gloves, and then drool all over everything in sight.

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  2. 2.

    Skepticat

    Thank goodness the company was that sensible. It would be especially tragic to have all their hard work and superb effort destroyed by idiots.

  3. 3.

    Elizabelle

    That WaPost article was masterfully written.  Before these passages appear, it was a litany of all the maskless and contagious visits to which Trump and Pence subjected their hosts.  Braskem was watching carefully throughout.

    Trump had no face covering on May 5 when he visited a Honeywell plant in Arizona that produces N95 respirators, which the White House featured in a campaign-style video. Nor did aides joining him, including Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, or top executives at Honeywell, despite the plant’s general mask policy.

    The White House was aiming for a similar event last Friday at the Braskem plant in Marcus Hook, Pa., a factory that made a special fabric used in making protective masks, gloves and other gear.

    Factory officials were initially excited about the idea of hosting a president but also had reservations, according to the two people familiar with the planning talks, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions.

    The plant officials told the White House advance team that they doubted their workers could attend the event. It was too risky for them — and would run counter to the effort they had taken by self-quaratining.

    The White House then suggested that a few corporate officials could join the president, the people said.

    Factory officials said they didn’t feel comfortable bringing the president and his entourage, which included a detail of several Secret Service agents, inside the plant, in part because social distancing would be hard to maintain. In response, the White House proposed holding the event in the adjoining open-air parking lot.

    Ultimately, company officials suggested rescheduling after the pandemic was over, saying that a visit from the president was just too risky at this time.

  4. 4.

    Ruckus

    I’m sure I wasn’t the first to call him shitforbrains and I’m also sure that he deserves that moniker at a minimum. I have reduced it to one word because he’s so much shit in one package that it’s really his trademark…

  6. 6.

    Gozer

    I’m never surprised at this, but it’s always jarring to see how he can’t functionally learn.

  9. 9.

    Elizabelle

    Trump and Pence have repeatedly resisted guidance to wear masks as the virus has spread. When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention urged Americans to begin wearing cloth face coverings in public in early April, the president made it clear he did not plan to follow that advice.

    “I don’t think I’m going to be doing it,” Trump said. “Wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens — I just don’t see it.”

    The president has told others he dislikes masks and thinks they suggest weakness, said two people familiar with internal discussions. The tone set at the top has led many White House officials and senior advisers to similarly avoid using masks. Pence said he didn’t wear a mask when he visited the Mayo Clinic because he wanted to look the doctors and staff “in the eye.”

    And Pence’s eye is  …. where??

  11. 11.

    Uncle Jeffy

    “…desperate to Leni Reifenstahl his way out of this…

    Cole for the win!

  12. 12.

    eemom

    Have I mentioned that the continued existence of Dump and Dense proves that there are some things too filthy for even a virus to touch?

  14. 14.

    Ruckus

    @Baud: 
    Zero might lead one to conclude that he hadn’t done anything and he has. He’s done plenty, sure it’s all entirely, massively negative, but given his entire life that’s all he’s ever done. And as president he’s gone farther negative than anyone ever before. A new low in negative human endeviors.

  15. 15.

    Redshift

    a visit from Trump could jeopardize both the safety of the workers and the plant’s ability to produce special material for masks and other medical gear

    Especially since he was touching stuff right and left when he visited the plant in Arizona!

  17. 17.

    lamh36

    So can we STOP with the Kamala for AG push.  Folks been telling ’em Kamala said no to AG when asked by the first Black President. Why would she say yes to Biden or any of the possible candidate if it hadn’t been Biden…IJS?,

    DaryonnJackson54m54 minutes ago

    More

    AUDIO CLIP: “I’ve already been AG for two terms & I was very honored to serve… & I would be honored to serve, obviously as Vice President for Joe Biden.” –@KamalaHarris
    twitter.com/DaryonnJackson/status/1259983007332683781

  18. 18.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Baud: He is President Negative Infinity. He is undefined, making him President was like dividing by zero. I will never forgive those who voted for him because the woman was too icky.

  21. 21.

    TupeloPhoney

    Before I even bothered talking about whether it would be possible to set up a protocol sufficient to protect the personnel of the company, my first question would be how much over expenses the Trump campaign would be paying for the use of the facilities.  No matter what they said I’d then laugh and hang up.

  22. 22.

    Elizabelle

    @lamh36:   Adam Schiff would be a great Attorney General.  So much rebuilding to be done at the DOJ.

    And maybe he can prosecute the current AG.  Someone should.

  24. 24.

    lamh36

    @kylegriffin1 3m3 minutes ago More Coronavirus infection rates are spiking to new highs in several metropolitan areas and smaller communities across the country, according to undisclosed data the White House’s task force is using to track rates of infection, which was obtained by NBC News.

    Unreleased White House report has coronavirus rates spiking in heartland nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/unreleased-white-house-report-shows-coronavirus-rates-spiking-heart… via @nbcnews

  27. 27.

    Gin & Tonic

    Boy, that last paragraph is sheer poetry, easily worth twice what I pay for the Platinum membership.

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    @rikyrah: Awwwww.   Should we salt the earth with kosher salt or iodized salt?

    ETA – h/t to Driftglass – Oh shit, our decades-old monster factory finally made a monster!

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: So far I have heard Kamala and Stacey Abrams state unequivocally that they would like to be VP.  Good for them; I’m not all that fond of the coy replies we have seen in past election years.

    I loved Stacey’s reply, when asked, something like “as a black woman, you have to put yourself forward in order to be noticed”.  I loved that she said that, hated that it’s true.

    Has anyone else made their interest crystal clear?  (Publicly.)

  31. 31.

    Another Scott

    @lamh36: I know the timing is wrong, unless the current FBI Director resigns, but I would really like to see someone of her (or Eric Holder’s) stature be head of the FBI.  The 10 year term enables someone to hold the office long enough to see substantial, and well overdue, changes made in that agency and in law-enforcement in general.  An African American (or American Indian) or similar representative from a long-oppressed group needs to hold that office, and have the power to make changes.  The symbolism is vitally important.

    Yeah, Attorney General is important, too, and boss of the FBI.  But they’re often not there very long…

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  32. 32.

    wseattle

    Fun fact – that Braskem plant in Marcus Hook, PA is about two miles from where Biden went to high school. Biden country.

  33. 33.

    lamh36

    @WaterGirl: Harris has been a bit more subtle, but I have no issue with either her or Abrams.  Thought I’ll admit in other circles the overtness of Abrams approach has been rubbing folks the wrong way.  but otherwise I have no issue with much of it

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    @Another Scott: I think it’s fair to say that in these partisan times, if the Republicans get the presidency again, ever, there will be no respect for 10-year timelines.

    Trump has shown you can fire people at the drop of a hat, with no cause other than that you don’t like them, don’t like that they do their job, or like their political party.

  36. 36.

    laura

    I’m sure that anybody in a position of authority at Braskem saw what all the rest of the world saw when the attention whore in chief went traipsing all over Honeywell touching raw material and finished products contaminating every square in within his path of destruction. The blaring Live and Let Die reinforced the sheer awfulness and high risk behavior and need to deep clean and throw out what had been safe sterile products not to mention possibly infecting the workers. Braskem respected the sacrifices their workers made in self isolating on the job. That’s a model to follow. Just say no to the plague rat in chief.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: I would take either of them in a heartbeat.

    What time is “freedom hour” on Wednesday?

    edit: I think Wednesday is when you take your last exam, right?

  40. 40.

    bbleh

    Man that took some serious brass on the part of the CEO.  Good for him!  Yay PA.

  48. 48.

    trollhattan

    @Elizabelle:

    If Harris becomes VP I foresee Schiff getting her senate seat. Not that he wouldn’t be a good choice to mop-and-bucket Justice, but I’d love him to be on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

  49. 49.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @lamh36: Harris is the more conventional choice, and Biden is a very conventional politician. Also, from what I’ve read she had very friendly relationship with Beau Biden, and I think that carries a lot of weight with the old man.

  50. 50.

    lamh36

    @WaterGirl: yep.  6pm is when the test will be administered

     

    Its been soo busy at the lab that I haven’t had time to study except when I get home.  But I’m off all day Wednesday, so I’ll get more studying in up until I take the test.

     

    Thanks for asking

  51. 51.

    thalarctosMaritimus

    But what makes this extra special amazing is that President Shit-For-Brains, desperate to Leni Riefenstahl his ass out of this mess, can’t even do that because of his own idiotic bravado of refusing to wear a mask. The last god damned thing any company that has quarantined their staff for months to safely produce sterile equipment will do is allow this dipshit and his team of choads to flounce off Pox Force One, refuse to wear masks and gloves, and then drool all over everything in sight.

    Anybody got a cigarette? Because I’m really needing one now.

  52. 52.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @rikyrah: Trump’s interest in Lewandowski has sparked conflict with Jared Kushner, two sources said…. According to a source briefed on the widely reported call, Parscale told Trump to blame the campaign’s struggle on Kushner. “Brad said, ‘Blame the people Jared brought in,’” the source said.

    Yay, they’ve reached the eating each other stage! With Kushner as the main course!

    And then there’s this:

    As Trump debates who should lead his campaign, he’s also struggling to settle on a 2020 strategy. Some advisers are lobbying Trump to embrace the reopening. “They’re going to gamble on the economy and hope it works,” a former West Wing official said. But another camp is pushing the view that Trump should run on a blame-China message.

    It doesn’t even occur to them to do the one thing that would work: Actually govern, show some leadership, and run on that.

  53. 53.

    lamh36

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: that’s true.

    I suspect she’s def in the top tier of choices, you can tell because the NYT and politco are both out today with pieces on Harris.  One does not want to cause them hit pieces, but they def were a bit full of bank handed hit points.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    Uh huh

     

    @Yamiche

    More

    NEW on Pres Trump & VP: A senior WH official tells me, “The president & the vp, are maintaining their distance for the immediate future based on consultation with WH medical…They are keeping their distance. But, as needed, they could perhaps interact, if that’s required.”

    7:24 PM – 11 May 2020
    twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1260002969858310146

  55. 55.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl: Has anyone else made their interest crystal clear? (Publicly.)

    I, for one, am massively unqualified to be Biden’s VP.  To quote General Sherman, If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve.

    I don’t know if Baud has chimed in.

  56. 56.

    Leto

    @zhena gogolia: As we know Republicans have no agency, no ability to control anything around them… unless it’s inflicting horrible policy on people. Or tax cuts for the wealthy.

  60. 60.

    RedDirtGirl

    Does this look like disaster capitalism to anyone else? Or is it just me?

  62. 62.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36:  So by 7 you should be a free bird!  That will feel good.  Time has been so weird lately; I was trying to remember whether this was a 2-year program.  I’m sure it wasn’t one year, and I don’t think it was 3.

  63. 63.

    TS (the original)

    @bbleh:

    Man that took some serious brass on the part of the CEO.

    Fortunately he knows he has a direct market with the states – regardless as to how trump tries to bring him down.

    He did what a first class hospital administrator failed to do. Keep people & product safe.

  65. 65.

    lamh36

    I think this is putting out feelers to see what comes

     

    @kylegriffin1

    Biden aides, surrogates and major donors see Kamala Harris as the best fit at the onset of the process — at least on paper — to join Biden atop the Democratic ticket.

    twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1259990484878938112

    So far there has been 2 or 3 stories on Kamala and the VP sweepstakes, added to that some reporting that Kamala soon will partner with Rep Clyburn for COVID legislation to come.

     

    hmmm

  66. 66.

    Leto

    @WaterGirl: @Another Scott: When a new president is elected, each head of agency tenders their resignation. It’s up to the incoming president whether they accept or not. Anyone appointed during Shitbird’s time should be auto-axed. Resignation accepted. And if they don’t submit one, then yes, fire them. I don’t really care how well you did your job during your tenure here. I don’t care if you thought you were preventing worse shit from happening. I don’t care if you had bipartisan support. You’re all gone.

  67. 67.

    TS (the original)

    @lamh36:

    Mention of them wearing masks in the following tweets to that one. I believe the person who said trump won’t wear a mask because it would mess with his makeup. Best reason & probably the truth.

  71. 71.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Leto: I think the bloodthirsty among us should temper our expectations for the eventual (I dearly hope) Biden presidency. One reason he is popular is that he does not come across as perpetually seeking vengeance.

  72. 72.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl:

    My scenario is Harris becomes VP, Dems flip senate, and then Schiff gets the Harris senate seat. Would that not give Schiff a much higher ceiling? (Also stipulating that DiFi is not running for term the infinity.)

  74. 74.

    lamh36

    @WaterGirl: Maybe closer to 8pm.  The test is in two parts.  Multiple choice part open for 1 hr, and a problem section open for 2 hours.

    So it’ll be all but done by 7 maybe 7:30.  Dependig on how hard he makes the multiple choice part…

     

    It’s a 2 year program but can be a bit longe.  Fall ’18 to Spring 20.  I started w/one Fall ’18 class just to acclimate myself to being back in school.  Then 2 classes for Spr ’19 and Sum ’19.  Then 3! classes a week for the final two semesters (Fall ’19 & Sprg ’20)

     

    ETA: This should be classes per week

  77. 77.

    The Thin Black Duke

    @Gin & Tonic: Besides, as the old saying goes, “Living well is the best revenge”, and the day that Trump is no longer President of the United States will be one of the happiest days of my life.

  80. 80.

    leeleeFL

    @mrmoshpotato: Not at all, he was a Republican then. He has since become a Citizen, because tRump.  Not sure what the expiration date might be

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    @trollhattan: Typically Senate > House.  But if we win the presidency, or don’t, at this point in history, being Chair of Intelligence in the House gives him more REAL power than being the junior senator from CA

    edit:  I think so, anyway.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: By the time I got to my last exam in grad school, I SO just wanted to be done, I’m not sure I gave that exam my best effort.

    I guess my “one hour” guess was based on my own experience.  I tried to still care at that point, I really did.  :-)

    edit: 3 classes a week?  holy shit!

  88. 88.

    Redshift

    @WaterGirl:

    Has anyone else made their interest crystal clear?  (Publicly.)

    Elizabeth Warren was asked by Rachel Maddow if she would serve as Biden’s VP if asked, and she answered a straight up “yes.”

  91. 91.

    different-church-lady

    @WaterGirl: The first thing they need to do is realize they have nothing to gain by working with or flattering Trump.

    This is the hurdle too many people can’t clear.

  93. 93.

    Barbara

    @laura: These events, and specifically, all the advance planning and air travel required to make them happen, probably helped to spread the contagion within the White House.

  94. 94.

    trollhattan

    Missed this in the other kerfuffle.

    Rucker: You appeared to accuse Obama of a crime yesterday. What did he do?

    TRUMP: “Obamagate.”

    RUCKER: What is the crime?

    TRUMP: “You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody.”

    Trump has gone full I know you are but what am I?

  95. 95.

    different-church-lady

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    It doesn’t even occur to them to do the one thing that would work: Actually govern, show some leadership, and run on that.

    The can’t do that. I mean, literally, they’re not capable of doing that.

  96. 96.

    Barbara

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    It doesn’t even occur to them to do the one thing that would work: Actually govern, show some leadership, and run on that.

    It’s mind blowing.  Even someone as hapless as GWB figured out how to claw popularity out of the clutches of a disaster.

  97. 97.

    lamh36

    @WaterGirl: yep… 3 classes a week this semester and the last, so that I could graduate in 2 years instead of 2 1/2 or 3.

    Oh and you can best believe I’ve already calculated just how well I have to do to get a higher grade (I’m currently at a B+) or just keep the same grade (at this point I just want to be done, so I’ll take that B).

    I mean I’d like to do my best, so I’m gonna study as much as I can but still I am just tired and ready to be done…LOL

  98. 98.

    Leto

    @Gin & Tonic: It’s not vengeance. It’s in line with his op-ed with Warren: we’re not looking past this. It’s being clear eyed/level headed in recognizing the absolute failure with everyone connected to this administration. You can be a “good guy” and still recognize this. Give’em a “thanks for your service” as they head out the door to collect their wing nut welfare. Nobody connected with this administration needs to be in his future administration, or anywhere there might be a decision made. No one.

  99. 99.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @trollhattan: To me that read like your average internet discussion-forum loon.

    LOON: [random crazy theory]

    RATIONAL PERSON: Do you have anything like a cite for that?

    LOON: Do your own research!

  100. 100.

    dmsilev

    @WaterGirl: My last grad school exam was my thesis defense. And my committee and I all wanted it over fast, so we pretty much set a record for that sort of thing; I was done in less than an hour. My labmates setting up the traditional post-defense party were pissed; they were nowhere near ready once I emerged from the exam.

    (A few weeks prior, our research center gave a long presentation to convince NSF to keep giving us money. I gave one of the technical talks, which was basically my thesis. After all the rehearsals and then the actual presentation, everyone had heard the damn thing probably a dozen times and had gone through it in excruciating detail. Enough was enough.)

  101. 101.

    laura

    I just want to go “on record” that if Joe Biden selects Kamala Harris as his running mate, I will work that campaign’s GOTV like a rented, red haired step-mule. And I’d help out where I could to get either Ted Lieu or Adam Schiff elected to the CA Senate to fill her Senate seat.

  103. 103.

    dmsilev

    @different-church-lady: All he’d really have to do is have the humility to realize he was in over his head and let the professionals handle things. Couldn’t even do that, not by a long shot. Instead, we got “maybe drinking bleach will help?”.

  105. 105.

    sdhays

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, wow. I think you’re right, that’s quite a game changer. I’ve always thought that Kamala would be the best fit for Joe. Of all the candidates, she has a warmth and happy-warrior vibe that reminds me of Obama (while being stylistically different), and rekindling that kind of chemistry would be dynamite in the campaign and in the administration. (And I don’t mean that other candidates aren’t warm or happy warriors, just that the feel of Kamala gets the closest to the feel of Obama, at least to me.) Of course, I just really like Kamala, so I may be biased.

    @John Cole: “Pox Force One” is simply perfect. Thank you!

  106. 106.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl:

    Short term I think you’re right WRT power in hand. Provided Feinstein doesn’t run again in 2024 at a sprightly 91, the junior senator status changes in four years. But waiting until 2024 to run for her seat probably keeps him the junior senator in perpetuity.

  110. 110.

    Bill Arnold

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I think the bloodthirsty among us should temper our expectations for the eventual (I dearly hope) Biden presidency.

    Don’t need vengeance. Do need a reasonably complete accounting of Republican/D.J.Trump administration malfeasance.
    For the record.
    If prosecutions happen, they happen.

  111. 111.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: I am nodding as I read your comment.  As you get so close to being done, it is making me feel like the end of my grad school days was yesterday.  its’ like I am being transported back in time, so I feel you.

    Sometimes you’re just READY TO BE DONE.

    I remember thinking before my last exam:  it will be over in two hours no matter how I do. :-)

  112. 112.

    HumboldtBlue

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m kicking myself now that I forget the author but I read an opinion piece last week about how Abrams putting herself forward in that manner was considered very bad form and that there was some protocol at work I had never heard of.

    These two smart women know that if Biden wins and they’re in the co-pilot seat 2024 is looking ripe. Folks here have cogently argued that Kamala Harris as the person handling the work of undoing the crimes of the Trump regime would be a perfect fit with Uncle Joe leading yet another massive recovery from GOP perfidy.

  113. 113.

    sdhays

    @dmsilev: That’s no joke. If he was merely bumbling around at least sort of trying to do the right thing (like BoJo, who is not called the British Trump for nothing), I would be worried about the election because the curve for awful white men would make him Churchillian in some quarters.

    But no, he has to do a smash and grab and have a mental break down on the unfairness of being cooped up in the (very) White House and people not sacrificing their lives to keep his precious Dow Index high.

  114. 114.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: It doesn’t even occur to them to do the one thing that would work: Actually govern, show some leadership, and run on that.

    BWHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!

    You mean the Soviet shitpile mobster manchild who fell fat-orange-fascist-ass backwards into the White House?

    I’m waiting for these shitstains-on-democracy to threaten to shoot the virus.

  117. 117.

    Realist

    Does anyone else think it’s time to consider partition?

    A division of the US between Red and Blue states. Rip the band aid off, with necessary population transfers between the two new nations—one a Scandinavian social democracy, the other a neo-Confederacy.

  121. 121.

    Realist

    @sdhays: “America” as a united country may be finished as a going concern. Why should Blue States continue to subsidize the Red States with their wealth?

  126. 126.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: I guess I hadn’t heard how that turned out.

    It sounds like you didn’t have to use the “in case of emergency, break glass, pre-written backup plan” in case the others on your team didn’t come through.

    Congratulations on the successful herding of cats!

  127. 127.

    Elizabelle

    @lamh36:   Yea lamh!  At the home stretch.  Wishing you all the best with your final exam(s).

    And you did manage that team.

  128. 128.

    TS (the original)

    @WaterGirl:  I was hearing re Abrams – She doesn’t have enough experience

    After trump even baud has enough experience

  130. 130.

    Bill Arnold

    @Realist:

    “America” as a united country may be finished as a going concern.

    You’re seriously arguing for the destruction of the United States? Interesting. (Also, hi new nym)

  131. 131.

    lamh36

    @WaterGirl: No the one group member who’d been slacking off, basically did so againg, but the majority of the work was done w/the first draft, so the other 3 ladies did come through in the end.  Plus the marketing professor while she was def knowledgeable, I’m still not 100% sure she even seriously read any of the final, just enough to complete the final check list.

    Also a good consequence of the COVID pandemic forcing everything online meant we didn’t have to do a formal presentation.  That’s where she would have DEF saw the un-preparedness.

     

    Anyway…bygones.  I got that A, so I ain’t gonna dwell on it anymore

  132. 132.

    Skepticat

    @eemom: Have I mentioned that the continued existence of Dump and Dense proves that there are some things too filthy for even a virus to touch?

    Professional courtesy from one disgusting thing to others perhaps?

  133. 133.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @sdhays:

    Of course, I just really like Kamala, so I may be biased.

    Me, too

    @laura: Barry Sonnenfeld (director, Men In Black, long time cameraman for the Coen bros) told a story on Marc Maron’s show about directing some I Love NY type ad with a bunch of other NY celebs in I forget which iconic Manhattan setting. Trump demanded the cameras be moved so that he could be filmed from his good side. Sonnenfeld said, we can’t do that, we don’t have time. trump said, then I’m not doing it, so BS said, “Fine” and moved on to the next celeb. trump hung around for fifteen minutes and finally came back and said, “All right, I’ll do it”, and BS told him it was too late, they’d moved. A small good feeling, knowing that happened.

    Also, more relevantly, I’m sure it drives him crazy every time someone asks Nancy Pelosi to react to something he said, and she says, “Oh, who cares?”

  136. 136.

    debbie

    @Elizabelle:

    The president has told others he dislikes masks and thinks they suggest weakness

    Can’t wait to see how strong he is when COVID knocks him flat.

  140. 140.

    WaterGirl

    @debbie: I am trying not to wish COVID on him, but I do confess to some gleeful feelings as I hear about each new case in the White House.  Which officially makes me a bad person, so Trump does indeed turn everything he touches to shit.

  141. 141.

    RedDirtGirl

    @WaterGirl: Well the entire Trump presidency, for sure. But specifically the pandemic response, which feels like a smash and grab operation: allow things to go wrong/make things worse, then profit from the crisis

    Thanks for the note about my imprecise word choice, by the way. ?

  142. 142.

    Ocotillo

    I used to want Trump prosecuted and spend the rest of his life in jail.

     

    Now I want him to fall out of a window like so many of Putin’s critics do….

  144. 144.

    Realist

    @sdhays: Population transfers between the separated states would take care of this.

    By remaining with the Red States, we’re subjecting millions of rational people to be governed by insane federal policy as well as continuing to subsidize the Red States with our tax dollars.

  153. 153.

    WaterGirl

    @debbie: The “you don’t have to wear a mask when you’re at your desk” in the white house thing enrages me.

    All they care about is Trump and the other people “who matter”.  They don’t care if you wear your mask at your desk because they are stupid enough to think you are no threat to then if you are at your desk

    edit: I’m closing my computer so I can calm down before bedtime.  ‘Night all!

  155. 155.

    JCJ

    @WaterGirl:

    Neither do I, but I thought Quinerly picked a Spanish speaking dog to shore up the Hispanic vote since Poco did not get chosen to be Baud’s running mate

  158. 158.

    Ruckus

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    It doesn’t even occur to them to do the one thing that would work: Actually govern, show some leadership, and run on that.

    This is true. I wonder why that might be?

    1. They are trying to destroy the government.
    2. They are dumb as decayed tree stumps.
    3. They are so dumb they have no idea how dumb they are.
    4. They are as dumb as the 3 stooges acted. In a pie fight.
  159. 159.

    Kattails

    @TS (the original): Umm, really Kamala has far more national/executive experience than Abrams. Given the age of Biden, I do think this is a serious concern. And as much as I loathe Trump and his spectacular stupidity, he is also a walking argument for actual professional political experience. I refuse to buy the notion that “politics” is a dirty word. There will be politics one way or another, it can be civilized or it can be at the point of some random individual or random armed group’s gunpoint.

  160. 160.

    Dan B

    @lamh36: Great little chart of hot spots and the good news locations like Snohomish County WA.  Snohomish County os on Opie Jean’s doorstep.

  161. 161.

    mad citizen

    Still my have my Kamala sticker on the back of my SUV, though few see it these days.  She makes sense for the VP slot, and I don’t want to have read her book for nothing :).  The Cohen column lays it out.  Abrams should not be lobbying for this.

  162. 162.

    SFBayAreaGal

    Dang, I don’t smoke, however John’s post has me wanting to light one up. It was sooooo good. Sigh

  164. 164.

    Bill Arnold

    “Trump’s Feeling Is, ‘Why Are We Losing Everywhere?’”: With Advisers Feuding and Numbers Plummeting, Trump Eyes Campaign Shake-up – Brad Parscale (and his Ferrari) is in the hot seat. Kushner is pushing for Nick Ayers, and against a Corey Lewandowski return. But whose fault are the disastrous swing state numbers? (Gabriel Sherman, May 11, 2020)
    That’s a rhetorical question, I presume.
    This is also funny:

    As Trump debates who should lead his campaign, he’s also struggling to settle on a 2020 strategy. Some advisers are lobbying Trump to embrace the reopening. “They’re going to gamble on the economy and hope it works,” a former West Wing official said. But another camp is pushing the view that Trump should run on a blame-China message.

    And it does not include the recent pivot to “Blame Obama”. Who will, if pushed into media interviews, suck all the oxygen out of the lungs of the D.J. Trump 2020 campaign.

  166. 166.

    zhena gogolia

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I know — I just feel that even bloated old alcoholic Yeltsin doesn’t really look like Trump because there’s a tiny gleam of humanity in him that Trump is devoid of. He did stand on the tank, we have to give him that. Trump couldn’t have done that in a million years.

  167. 167.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @zhena gogolia: I would be fine with vengeance, personally, but I do agree with G&T that we need to temper our expectations.  I cringe every time somebody brings up criminal prosecution, not because I don’t think trump, and Barr, and probably a lot of other people have broken the law in spirit, I think we’re going to be disappointed if we make criminal convictions the standard of the Biden presidency, which is not yet a sure thing anyway. It seems like hardly a week goes by here that some otherwise sensible person takes a whack at the dead horse of “Obama went too easy on Wall St….”

    That said: Leto’s suggestion of a thorough house-cleaning of senior personnel is a good one.

  169. 169.

    mad citizen

    I still think Trump will resign instead of taking a defeat in November.  If trying to blame China is the best they have, they have nothing (well we all know they have nothing.  In a sane, educated nation the margin would be 90-10, not 49-40.)

  171. 171.

    rikyrah

    Biden statistically tied with Trump in Ohio—a state that demographically has been changing in favor of Republicans for years. If Biden improves on traditional Dem numbers with older whites nationally, hard to see how Trump pulls it out t.co/gqojQXDrdj— Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) May 12, 2020

  172. 172.

    Duane

    Starting a court battle with Obama is a fool’s errand, and Trumpov is just the fool to do it. Remind the public just before the election you’re Putin’s guy, and give Obama a reason to take the gloves off. It’s a fight I’d like to see.

  173. 173.

    H.E.Wolf

    @Bill Arnold:

    [silly new ‘nym person]: “America” as a united country may be finished as a going concern.

    You’re seriously arguing for the destruction of the United States? Interesting. (Also, hi new nym)

    Naw, he’s just joshin’ with us. A fine American like him, he certainly knows the Dan’l Webster Rule:

    Yes, Dan’l Webster’s dead—or, at least, they buried him. But every time there’s a thunderstorm around Marshfield, they say you can hear his rolling voice in the hollows of the sky. And they say that if you go to his grave and speak loud and clear, “Dan’l Webster—Dan’l Webster!” the ground’ll begin to shiver and the trees begin to shake. And after a while you’ll hear a deep voice saying, “Neighbor, how stands the Union!” Then you better answer the Union stands as she stood, rock-bottomed and copper-sheathed, one and indivisible, or he’s liable to rear right out of the ground.

    tkinter.smig.net/Stuff/DevilAndDanielWebster/index.htm

  175. 175.

    Another Scott

    @H.E.Wolf: Nice!

    Cosign.

    My ancestors didn’t fight for this country for me and mine to just give up after a few corrupt grifters have tried to break everything.

    The good stuff is never really free – it takes effort and determination and work to keep.  Eyes on the prizes.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  176. 176.

    dww44

    @WaterGirl: Sorry if this has already been posted, but several weeks ago Elizabeth Warren answered unequivocally “Yes” when Rachel Maddow asked her directly if she would accept the Vice-Presidency if she were asked.

  177. 177.

    TruthOfAngels

    @zhena gogolia: But he’d tell you for two hours how he would have stood on the tank, and how he did stand on the tank, and how only losers stand on tanks, and how shut up I hate you and then run away.

    And isn’t that the real heroism?

  178. 178.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @dww44: I didn’t like that, either. Warren and Abrams both put Biden in the position of (potentially) having to explain why didn’t pick at least one and probably both of them, with so many people, among the Bernie-left and the media, for different reasons, so eager to create difficult situations for Biden, our side shouldn’t be helping them. There’s nothing wrong with tact.

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