“I give advice according to the best scientific evidence”: Dr. Anthony Fauci and Sen. Rand Paul argued Tuesday during a Senate hearing over the impact of the coronavirus on children and the decision to reopen schools while Fauci testified to the Senate https://t.co/CrtBnaGkxK pic.twitter.com/05VNNTa66x
— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 12, 2020
“Paul dismissed the warnings of public health professionals and scientists that there could be a surge as more states in the US are reopening businesses.”https://t.co/lKlYGQVCRb
— The Grey Man (@IntelOperator) May 12, 2020
Rand Paul tells the government’s leading epidemiologist Dr. Fauci that he is “not the end all,” which is quite the lecture coming from the guy who visited the Senate gym while infected with coronavirus.
— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) May 12, 2020
*I* had it already, so I’m safe. Why should I care about what might happen to other people?
To the approximately 2 million New Yorkers and others who got coronavirus and survived, don’t let these busybodies tell you that you don’t have immunity. They want you to be lemmings and do as THEY see fit. RESIST!
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) May 5, 2020
Look, if we let Those People get sick, we can harvest their plasma to protect *important* people… (No, really.)
Rand Paul is out here talking about "silver linings" to coronavirus outbreaks at meat packing plants — his belief (which is not proven) that people who get Covid gain immunity and therefore can go back to work pic.twitter.com/gWMlKf7qxj
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 12, 2020
As Dr. Fauci gives his opening remarks about Coronavirus, the camera swings to Rand Paul, who continues to touch his face and stroke his beard. pic.twitter.com/CsDSJZECRp
— Hil.i.am (@hilaryluros) May 12, 2020
Yes, but there was a black Democrat in the Oval Office, back then…
Worth recalling, Rand Paul was one of the biggest, more destructive, spreaders of misinformation and panic about how Ebola may spread. That he’s downplaying COVID spread now is quite the 180https://t.co/0n7v2l8oLp
— Sam Stein (@samstein) May 12, 2020
Amir Khalid
What’s with the beard and the unkempt hair on Rand Paul?
Chief Oshkosh
The biggest problem with Rand Paul is that his neighbor lacked sufficient upper body strength.
hells littlest angel
It was good of Rand Paul to take time out from building pipe bombs and distilling moonshine to attend this hearing.
NotMax
McConnell is injurious for the country. Rand Paul is Kentucky putting salt in that wound.
Mike in NC
@Amir Khalid: Apparently Rand Paul felt the need to grow one of those celebrity “lockdown beards”. Otherwise he always has unkempt hair and clothes that he appears to sleep in.
SiubhanDuinne
For the first time today — beneath the boyishly-tousled hair and the “I’m-all-gwowed-UP” beard — I saw Rand Paul the Old Man. The resemblance to his father is striking. And not in a good way.
germy
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: There is a good way to resemble Ron Paul?
germy
germy
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus: I couldn’t say. Hasn’t happened yet, but in theory….
Baud
Kentucky really has the worst pair of senators.
Omnes Omnibus
@germy: The “didn’t finish college but somehow got an MD anyway” thing is too cute by half. There are a number of medical schools that offer early admission to students who have finished the required courses and have really good grades. There is plenty of real shit on Paul; let’s not twist an actual accomplishment into a false attack.
JaneE
@Amir Khalid: Rand may be trying to show how deprived he is by honoring the lock down. The hair is pretty much his normal style but the visible grey seems new.
dmsilev
@Baud: Texas? I mean, John Cornyn is basically a replacement-level Republican, but Ted Cruz…
kindness
Conservatives at one point were able to debate the ideas of conservatism. Now it’s just whipped up fear & hate. What ever it takes to get the populace to stop using reason and just knee jerk react (badly). It’s their business model and it’s sad. Republicans no longer stand for anything but obtaining power at any cost. So here we are.
Josie
@dmsilev:
I was about to say Texas gives them a run for their money (and I am from Texas), but I still think McConnell tops them all.
West of the Rockies
@dmsilev:
Kentucky’s senators are far more damaging due to McTurtle’s power. What is wrong with Kentuckians (Kenturkeys?) that they elected these two clowns.
TS (the original)
They are incorrigible – GOP does it – good, Obama & democrats – very bad. The response to COVID-19 in the US has been abysmal. Too little, too late & making sure the deplorables scream for their rights when asked to stay at home.
People die so the GOP can rule. The right to life does not extend to the poor and vunerable.
danielx
Why does Rand Paul remind me of Alex in A Clockwork Orange?
Mai naem mobile
I am supposed to trust the guy who walked around putting many of his vulnerable colleagues for COVID19 whole waiting for his test to come back which was positive. Also he looks like a chronically I’ll homeless perso. Not exactly the spokesmodel you want for post COVID positive quarantine who is fighting for reopening quicker.
Frankensteinbeck
@kindness:
Their base no longer stands for anything but maintaining power for white Christian men at any cost.
TS (the original)
@Frankensteinbeck:
I would not call them Christians – no way any way. What they call themselves is irrelevant.
danielx
@kindness:
Which would be, in no particular order: cutting taxes for people who already have more money than god, bombing brown people abroad, and keeping the wrong people from voting at home.
Do I have all that right?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: GMTA
Mai naem mobile
@Baud: oh, I don’t know about that. There is Iowa, Arkansas, NC and ofcourse Texas.
MomSense
Sometimes it just kills me that these evil creeps have been elected. WTF lurks in the hearts and minds of voters that they could see this freak (in a bad way) and think he is the leader they need? He’s an obnoxious dullard.
West of the Rockies
@danielx:
Making The Gays feel worthless?
Brachiator
@TS (the original):
The GOP are willing to consume their own. They are not drawing at the Other, or the poor and vulnerable.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@danielx:
Tax cuts cure the clap, manybe Rona too.
Mai naem mobile
@MomSense: I don’t think they see Paul. They see the ‘R’ behind his name.. I admit when I am voting I am not familiar with all the candidates(State Mining Inspector!!!) and I will just vote for the D .
Obdurodon
I don’t think I’ve ever met a libertarian who *didn’t* think they knew more about every subject than the experts. Very common in tech.
Mike in NC
@danielx: Add: Controlling womens’ bodies, because why not?
Splitting Image
@danielx:
Because he’s killed as many people if not more.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Gravenstone
A thought on little Prince Randroid’s “positive” coronavirus test. Has he perchance had any follow up testing to confirm antibodies? And that he didn’t just get a singular false positive on his initial screening? I’m mostly curious, but it would also put a huge dent in his sense of invulnerability if it was proven that he isn’t immune by virtue of having already gotten it.
zhena gogolia
Biden’s ads are great, but this is still the best:
japa21
Important special election in WI today. Fully expect the Republican to win. Trump won by 22 in 16 and Duffy (who is being replaced by tonight’s winner) won by 21 in 18. If the Republican doesn’t win by at least 15, that is trouble for the GOP in November. Of course, if the Republican wins by 1% then both the GOP and the media will make sound like a repudiation of everything the Dems stand for and it means doom for Biden.
burnspbesq
@Josie:
We have so many horrible Congresscritters that by comparison, Cornyn and Cruz don’t look so bad.
Redshift
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Excellent.
Patricia Kayden
burnspbesq
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
it’s even better. He’s going to consider allowing the filing of amicus briefs. All the ex-DOJ folks are going to have a chance to explain just how horrible the dismissal would be.
https://twitter.com/mmineiro_cns/status/1260329588170862594?s=21
zhena gogolia
@burnspbesq:
I love it.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne:
Being in anyway like his dad is not a good thing.
But rand decided to go full dipshit asshole anyway, probably because that’s just who he is….
Ruckus
@Mai naem mobile:
Yep.
Needs to be more than one contestant to make it a race.
Kirk Spencer
@danielx: Today? I think you have it right. Historically?
If/when they dump the racism and misogyny and, well, you get the idea, I believe there is a role for conservatism.
Badly analogizing it so as to be brief, I think conservatism is the keel. It provides a useful resistance to the sails interaction with the winds.
Modern conservatism isn’t a keel. And that’s another thing I hate the modern Republican party for.
Mai naem mobile
@burnspbesq: can he drag it out past 1/21/21? Ha, I didn’t realize 1/21/21 was a palindrome until I typed it right now.
Redshift
@danielx:
There really was a time when conservatives seemed to have principles they sincerely believed in, and tried to construct plausible arguments for, and not just things that would coincidentally line their pockets. I still thought they were wrong about most of them, but I we were having a sincere debate, not inhabiting separate realities. Debates about what level of regulation was appropriate, or the tradeoffs between levels of taxation and what services could be provided. And there were genuine foreign policy debates, too. It wasn’t all of them, of course, even then there were also people for whom being conservative meant being openly racist and misogynist.
I think all that started to turn to dogma and cultishness with Reagan, maybe it depended on them being out of power. Once they decided that academics didn’t agree with their ideas because they were biased, and set up their own parallel faux-academic “think tanks,” that rewarded “scholars” who produced the “right” answers instead of convincing arguments for them, it was all downhill to our present idiocracy.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@burnspbesq: It sounded good to me! Sullivan is righteous.
Redshift
@Ruckus:
That, and that he wasn’t going to inherit dad’s cult followers if he didn’t. But I agree it’s probably mostly just who he is.
burnspbesq
@Mai naem mobile:
He’s a United States District Judge. With only a handful of exceptions, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. I’m reasonably certain that he could sit on his hands until October, sentence Flynn at that time, and force Trump to pardon him at the height of the campaign. The Biden ads would write themselves.
sdhays
@Amir Khalid: I assume it means that Rand Paul has never shaved himself, and since all the
beautymanly barber shops are closed due to COVID-19, he has no choice but to let it grow. Because his wife won’t do it, he’s not smart enough to figure it out himself, and if he gave his neighbor a razor and lifted up his neck, it just might be the last thing he ever did.debbie
@Amir Khalid:
He looks like he’s recovering from COVID-19.
rikyrah
@burnspbesq:
???
debbie
@germy:
Still not as funny as that clip of Kemp trying to put his mask on vertically.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: That is so good. It’s a travesty that the Rs violated their oaths to prop up the guy who hates as much as they do.
Patricia Kayden
WaterGirl
@burnspbesq: That makes me happy.
Villago Delenda Est
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” — John Kenneth Galbraith
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Alec Baldwin hinted on the last SNL he’s done playing trump (which he’s said before). There are a couple of good candidates to replace him, but this woman should be considered
Jay
Obamagate will prove to be nothingburger because DisBarr doesn’t prosecute crimes.
Ever notice that the Millionaires on the Island were just dead weight and it was the Scientists always saving their ass’s?
Jinchi
In Rand Paul’s mind, Fauci and the medical community are autocrats who have locked down America.
In reality, Fauci hasn’t locked down anything. All he does is give medical advice, including describing the most likely consequences of returning to business as usual while a pandemic is raging. Politicians are free to ignore his advice, which is exactly what Republicans have been doing during this crisis. Paul is just mad that Fauci refuses to shut up.
It’s absurd that we have to listen to the most powerful people in the country whine about how unfair the world is.
Mike in NC
@Patricia Kayden: Is there anybody working for Fat Bastard, say a Chief of Staff maybe, who could advise him to not say deranged shit in public?
Another Scott
@Jinchi: Paul is punching down. It’s what they do.
Cheers,
Scott.
Bill Arnold
@japa21:
The media (not Fox et al) has been trained to do pieces that look at differences between the win percentage and the previous win percentage. They’re easy to write, and they .look (and are) sophisticated. Not the same media as 2016; the D.J. Trump administration has been 3 years of training wheels.
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid: Rats revert to their natural state outside of civilisation*?
*my apologies to all the various species of rodentia I slandered here…
Miss Bianca
@Redshift: I don’t know…I’m starting to wonder if all conservatism has always been inherently a crock of shit, or, of it’s just that the modern variety, that the GOP has exhibited for literally my entire life.
Gbbalto
@Yutsano: SIR, you insult all respectable rats! As a Baltimoron, I see a lot of them, and they are all better groomed than that dude.
Miss Bianca
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: She’s kinda brilliant, isn’t she? The only way I can even stand to hear that asshole’s voice is when Sarah Cooper’s doing her thing.
danielx
@Mike in NC:
Nobody has managed that feat yet, and how could they? He doesn’t WANT to shut up, and why would he? Emitting a continuous stream of incoherent bullshit put him where he is today. Plus which it’s as necessary to him as breathing.
John Revolta
Kara Eastman wins her primary in NE-2 and will get a rematch against the loathsome
Don Bacon in November. She lost in 2018 by less than 2%.
Just Chuck
@Miss Bianca: Was always a crock, now it’s a psychopathic cult.
Jay
@Another Scott:
The Randroid thinks he is punching down,
his passive agressive libetairian BS didn’t go over so well with his neighbour.
Jay
@Just Chuck: seconded.
Brachiator
@Jinchi:
Yep, this is what it comes down to. Trump, his plutocrat buddies and stooges like Rand Paul are trying to pitch their supposed right to freedom against the cold hard reality of a virus. But since they can’t possibly win that argument, they instead want to rail against Fauci or government officials.
It’s tiring to watch people so dedicated to stupidity and futility.
Jay
James E Powell
@Redshift:
When was that? I remember them making the same arguments back in 1978 and it was transparent bullshit back then. It was all just fancy words & euphemisms for rolling back the New Deal and the Great Society. Tax cuts and service cuts. Nothing more.
SWMBO
@Baud:
@dmsilev:
Florida says hold mah beer.
Brantl
@MomSense: A boring, condescending dullard, at that.
Patricia Kayden
espierce
@Baud: I think not;
I’ll see you one Marco Rubio and a Rick Scott.
Another Scott
@Miss Bianca: February 9, 1950:
“While I cannot take the time to name all the men in the State Department who have been named as members of the Communist Party and members of a spy ring, I have here in my hand a list of 205.”
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Communists_In_Government_Service.htm
They’ve had the prion disease a very long time.
Cheers,
Scott.
dww44
@Baud: Late though it is, I’d have to agree except for the fact that my two, who don’t have nearly so much power, are both supremely lacking in judgment and ethics…. Perdue and Loeffler. God, I hope one of our Dem candidates is able to grab one of those seats. It would be selfish of me to want Dems to get both of them, wouldn’t it? Can’t be too greedy for real change next November, can I?
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Hope he isn’t. I am looking forward to a few opening skits about Trump being dragged out of the White House.
debbie
@Another Scott:
It’s certainly what his neighbor did. //
Another Scott
I’m finally reading through Dr. Bright’s whistleblower complaint – https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics/rick-bright-full-complaint/index.html
p.46 (of 89)
Lots of people need to answer a lot of serious charges in that complaint.
Grr…
Cheers,
Scott.
HumboldtBlue
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That’s good.
Amber Ruffin is damn funny as well.
tokyokie
It goes back even further than that.
As John Stuart Mill said in the 1860s, in reply to an attack made upon him by Sir John Pakington for calling the Conservative Party “the stupid party,” Mill, admitting the phrase to occur in his Representative Government, went on to say, “I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party; and I do not see why honorable gentlemen should see that position at all offensive to them, for it ensures their being always an extremely powerful party.”
Uncle Cosmo
I think you just made my day – & it’s only 6:45 AM! Now if I can just pick myself up off the floor I am rolling on laughing…
Uncle Cosmo
“Conservatism” is at its most socially useful when it’s acting as the keel on the boat of progress**, saying Not so fast, let’s think this through. But even at its best it inherently retains at least a whiff of the shit-crock. Opposition to change necessarily means keeping power in the hands that already hold it – and those hands are almost always unable to cope with changing conditions, usually illegitimate from the day they took power, and frequently outright criminal.
** Kirk Spencer in #46 supra introduced that analogy; I think it’s a good one, A keel, not an anchor.