This fucking idiot:
President Trump said Monday that he has been taking hydroxychloroquine, an antimalarial drug whose effectiveness against the coronavirus is unproven, for about a week and a half as a preventive measure, saying he had no symptoms of Covid-19.
“All I can tell you is, so far I seem to be OK,” he said, explaining that he takes a daily pill.
He’ll literally lie about anything.
Crusty Dem
Serious question: How would we know if he wasn’t ok?
Baud
@Crusty Dem:
He would feel empathy and guilt?
prostratedragon
Overheard at a recent tech conference: “Sucking is on the rise this year.”
rikyrah
You can’t possibly believe that lie, Cole.
COme on, now.
Baud
@prostratedragon:
I assume that refers to the bad kind of sucking.
Captain C
Maybe he’s confusing the hydroxychloroquine with adderall?
JaySinWA
@prostratedragon: What sort of tech?
Baud
@JaySinWA:
Vacuum cleaner tech apparently.
JaySinWA
@rikyrah: Hey, he wants to believe. Like that poster in X-files.
I think he is bullshitting, however. ETA I meant Trump, but It could be Cole.
senyordave
I’m surprised he isn’t mainlining Chlorox. If the media specifically said that it would harm you maybe he would. Although I want him to live and run in November, get trounced, then indicted, convicted, jailed, stroke out in jail and end up as vegetable. I’m hoping this is all God’s plan.
JaySinWA
@Baud: Could be cough drops.
kindness
Someone needs to announce a thread on Fox that cyanide works great against the virus.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
The question is what he’s lying about: that he’s okay or that he’s even taking the drug in the first place. Corruption is only a good bet when it comes to Trump. He probably has some financial stake in hydroxychloroquine
Brantl
I don’t think any non-psychotic god co I of hate us enough to give us Stump.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@kindness:
Well, Trump already talked about injecting disinfectant. A few unfortunate souls listened to him, but it seems most of Trump’s supporters aren’t that stupid/delusional
AnotherBruce
I would love to double his dose. Of peyote.
dmsilev
@kindness: Nah, that’s too obvious even for Fox. Go with something established in the loon-verse, like colloidal silver.
Edit: Or homeopathy. That’d be fun.
Sab
@Captain C: I absolutely believe that that is what they told him.
Princess
I don’t really care do U.
I am sure they stuffed him up with convalescent antibodies the moment they became available. Maybe he has some stock to unload or product to move. Maybe he’s just trolling or distracting us. Who cares.
Keith P.
According to schedule, he’ll be injecting bleach by the end of next month. I only wish one of those Fox News crackpot “doctors” had recommended suppository dosing for more reliable treatment.
rikyrah
The News Corp lawyers must have had a little sitdown with the on-air talent ??
Fox News’s Neil Cavuto is stunned by Trump’s announcement that he’s taking hydroxychloroquine: “If you are in a risky population here, and you are taking this as a preventative treatment … it will kill you. I cannot stress enough. This will kill you.” pic.twitter.com/e6D5alfAgc
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 18, 2020
rikyrah
The more things change ..
rikyrah
We must not sacrifice public health protections & the safety of park staff and guests in the rush to reopen parks.
With recent reports of overcrowding at national parks, it’s clear that any guidelines in place are not being enforced. This must change. https://t.co/8TU7o7JoUy
— Raul M. Grijalva (@RepRaulGrijalva) May 18, 2020
The Moar You Know
No, he isn’t. Not even the malaria-level low dose. How would I know? Because I supervised a team of guys over in Africa back in the early 2010s and every single guy who took chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine woke up screaming – literally – every single night we were deployed. It fucks your brain but good. You don’t sleep and if you do you’ll regret it.
I paid the extra money and got doxycycline (which has issues of its own) as I valued both my sleep and my sanity.
The possibility that Trump wakes up screaming every night and simply regards that as normal has not escaped me.
Nina
He probably just thinks he is taking it and they’re actually giving him sugar pills.
Bex
Did Dr. Feelgood give him a bottle of giant shiny gold colored vitamins with a bigly label that says HYDROXYWHATEVER?
MisterForkbeard
There was a commenter in a previous thread that nailed a good possibility:
1-2 weeks ago is when people in the WH started testing positive. Trump probably freaked the fuck out and demanded it.
I’m willing to believe his doctor is giving him .1% of the normal dose just to keep him happy. Or Trump is lying, because.
Laura Too
I’m guessing they give him a sugar pill. Anything to keep him happy. (Looks like Nina beat me to it)
Barry
@rikyrah: The Meal Ticket is engaging in risky behavior. The grifters get nervous.
Barry
@Laura Too: “I’m guessing they give him a sugar pill. Anything to keep him happy.”
That’s my bet. Probably a bitter one, for that extra Placebo power.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
weren’t they heralding last night the appearance of The Third Lady at some meeting today? so we would all remember how much we all fell in love with the love story of Don and Melanie? Or was the heralding this morning and the meeting is tomorrow?
What day is it? It’s April isn’t it? Or July?
zhena gogolia
@The Moar You Know:
Didn’t Tom Hanks say they gave it to his wife and she had to crawl to the bathroom on her hands and knees?
cokane
Honestly, either he’s lying about taking, or lying about not having the virus, or who the hell knows. But it’s just amazing how low the bar has dropped on honesty from the US prez now, that this is just expected
Patricia Kayden
Jim, Foolish Literalist
White House doctor issues a letter that
doesn’t really say anything but pretty much says trump was full of shit— or maybe I misread it– “the benefits outweigh the risks”, which would suggest he is taking it. I blame screenshot technology. Still don’t trust any of these people as far as I can throw themJeffro
Maybe he’s taking it as part of the second half of his physical?
still waiting to hear more about that… ?
joel hanes
@AnotherBruce:
his dose. Of peyote
Ibogaine
Tony Jay
@The Moar You Know:
I would like to put a saddle on this interesting comment and ride it up and down the High Street, pointing out the jaunty confidence of its fetlocks to passers-by and nourishing myself on the jealousy visible in the eyes of less besaddled men.
At least Adolf had a losing global war and wounds from failed assassination attempts as a reason to get well and truly drugged to the eyeballs, what’s Tang’s excuse? He managed to fuck up the most basic requirement of running a superpower, as in, don’t fail at absolutely everything? He doesn’t even know he’s being prescribed the placebo version, because he’s dumb and defensive about it?
I would laugh, but I’m British, and our TV celebrity ‘leader’ is less than halfway through his first year of a five year Imperium. You are less fucked than we are, and that makes me selfishly sad.
Make me happy in November. Puhleez.
joel hanes
Watergirl, I would really really love it if I could set a cookie so the comment editor always started in text mode for me.
Because I comment on several other blogs that are always in text mode, I inevitably put <em>quoted material</em> tags on the first line of every comment, and have to go back and edit the comments I make on Balloon Juice because it defaults to visual mode.
sdhays
According to NBC News, it’s confirmed that he’s taking it.
When he’s found dead, lying in his own shit some morning, I hope someone takes a picture so that that’s the way we can remember him.
This sure is going to make Mike Dense feel cocky.
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
Do Tweet screams count?
That actually sounds awful. Treatment worse than the malady, and all that.
trollhattan
@sdhays:
Was thinking “He catches COVID-19 and his heart explodes just like the very first US fatality” would be a proper and fitting outcome, but heart failure derived from his non-cure cure would be equally welcome.
Sab
Got facemasks in the mail today. Much better than what I wear (but my stepson’s fiance was wearing one of mine today.)
Anyway, the new ones were from Raygun, the Iowa t-shirt people. $15 each of a tight cotton knit. Two layers with a pocket in between for a filter. They have ties, not ear-tormenting elastic. Left side says “Mask is the new beard”. Good for my husband but not for me. I wore one to the grocery. Comfortable and fit well, but I got side-eye because of the slogan.
So I ordered more for me : blank one, and another with “Don’t drink bleach.” Also a couple to give to family.
They have a Midwest map from non-midwesterners that is absolutely hilarious for midwesterners. ( Others might not get the geography.) Definitely worth googling. Available in posters, t-shirts, dishtowels and totebags.
The mask is a tad pricey but really well done
ETA I followed hospital based internet patterns for my first ones. As they are laundered the elastic shrinks, and my ears are not stiff enough to keep them on. So now I have a problem, and no more elastic.
Glad to have a good tieback to copy.
Bill Arnold
Just to be clear, there is no observed COVID-19 protective effect for hydroxychloroquine in a population that takes it regularly for other reasons.
Hydroxychloroquine. Does. Not. Work. To. Prevent. COVID-19[1]. At. Least. Not. For. Lupus. Patients.
Baseline use of hydroxychloroquine in systemic lupus erythematosus does not preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19 (Accepted 27 April 2020, pdf)
[1] Nor, probably, does it affect rates of /SARS-CoV-2 infection. That’s less clear from the data, but not particularly relevant; mortality and general symptomatic COVID-19 cases are what matters.
Robatc
Why would he suddenly tell the truth? He’s countering Dr. Bright and probably Jared’s roommates friend has huge stock holdings that he’s buying and selling.
TS (the original)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Also from your link
Seems the president* doesn’t believe in the tests any more – and doctors are the same as everyone else – any dealings with trump turns you into sh!t. This guy is a commander in the US Navy – are they forced to take on the job & let trump fill himself up with drugs?
dmsilev
Nancy Pelosi, on CNN:
‘His, shall we say, weight group’ is beautiful.
Uncle Cosmo
@dmsilev: Morbidly obese & moronically obtuse – what a combination!
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@The Moar You Know:
Exactly. Neither the Countess nor I take antimalarials when traveling to mosquito zones – they ruin the trip by themselves.
prostratedragon
@Baud: It’s a matter of interpretation.
@JaySinWA: Data science.
The question arises in connection with translating texts, i.e. from English into Spanish. There are cases where the literal translation is bad enough in the second language to end all possibility of reasoned discourse. Apparently the verb “to suck” is a case, where what is mild in English is way, way rude in Spanish. So one would like to write translators that take that into account. Since it was data science, and one would like in any case to know how bad the problem is, a timeline of usage by year was drawn. The graph was as funny as the remark, as it took a decidedly cobralike profile at the present year.
I’d say more, but don’t want to make someone an unwitting star. Goes without saying, though, probably the hit of the conference.
artem1s
I am an awful person because I hope this is true. But his staff feeds him pretty pictures with few words to get him to pay attention to his briefings. does anyone seriously believe he is getting the real stuff and not a placebo? I could totally see his staff shoving tic tacs in his pie hole just to get him off the ceiling – which is where you know he ended up after all those WH staffers tested positive in the last few weeks.
mrmoshpotato
You orange bitchwaffle! Thousands, if not millions, of New Yorkers disagree with you about that. Including Keith Olbermann.
mrmoshpotato
Put a phat beat behind that and we can have a Monday night jackal dance party. :)
SWMBO
@Sab: Run a piece of fabric or yarn through the elastic and tie it in back. Keeps it from sliding and makes it last longer.
ciotogist
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Nah. They just couldn’t find Lysol or bleach for sale.
glc
He does manage to surprise me – there are some useful guiding principles to his behavior, like projection, but also what still looks like a strong random element. If he is actually taking this and not just selling it. Anyway he does seem to think he is taking it.
Given that, the suggestion that he’ll be trying the bleach cure is perhaps not so far fetched. It would be surprising, but not in an essentially new way. Some experts think this is a bad idea, you know.
To tell the truth, I was totally surprised by defunding WHO. Which suggests that I’m just not internalizing what I already know.