President Trump wears a mask during his tour of the Ford Rawsonville Components Plant in Ypsilanti, Michigan, where ventilators, masks and other medical supplies are being manufactured. https://t.co/UCqBVUEuBZ
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— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 22, 2020
Is he blaming Dana Nessel, who is a law enforcement official and has nothing to do with automotive business, for auto companies' leaving the state before he was elected? @dananessel was elected AG in 2018. She was a lawyer and founded a firm that prosecutes hate crimes before. https://t.co/OFBea7io1m
— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) May 22, 2020
You ask me, Trump wore a mask at his Michigan campaign stop because his advisors were genuinely afraid that the very nasty, probably (((globalist))) AG would MAKE TROUBLE, as globalist women Democrats are wont to do. So they got him a very special mask, with the Presidential seal on it, and told him that his mask would be the envy of every non-presidential-seal-embroidered mask wearer. Unfortunately, what remains of Trump’s mind went to the same anti-(((globalist))) place, it seems…
Love tooooo praise the superior genes of the only American to be warmly spoken of in Mein Kampf. https://t.co/bBxZEqNoQB
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) May 21, 2020
Don't anyone doubt for a second that whoever wrote Trump's speech saying Henry Ford had "good bloodlines" knew Henry Ford wrote a pamphlet called "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem." This is the gaslit dog whistling this White House does. It's dark, scary stuff. https://t.co/uy1YuwBuOo
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) May 22, 2020
I’m sure Ford Motor Co appreciates the President reminding everyone how much their founder admired the nazis. https://t.co/RMdFAfhZlQ
— Soledad O'Brien (@soledadobrien) May 21, 2020
GOOD BLOODLINES pic.twitter.com/kyiqCtnn1v
— Schooley (@Rschooley) May 21, 2020
Huck Finn-style humor:
I don't think Trump knows about Henry Ford being a bigot, because he doesn't really know a lot of things. Here is what I do think: he believes that everyone who works at Ford is somehow related to Ford. That Henry Ford had many thousands of nephews. https://t.co/P8II3BYsQC
— David Roth (@david_j_roth) May 21, 2020
Putting aside the giant red flag with as white circle and swastika on it here for a second, can we talk about how the fact that all of Ford's children where complete failsons who drove the company into the ground? https://t.co/lqssNUnZwe
— Galar Regional Medical Director (@weedlewobble) May 21, 2020
After his visit to a Michigan auto plant, Meidas Touch torches Trump with this biting video.
Well done, @MeidasTouch. #DearMichigan
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) May 23, 2020
Medium Cool with BGinCHI – You Are… Brad Parscale?
Japa21
Good ad at the end, said the MSU grad.
FelonyGovt
That’s a good ad.
HumboldtBlue
I thought the summer of 2008 was draining, summer 2020 is going to be in-fucking-terminable.
ThresherK
Ahem. Ford was an unstable old man who should have given up control of the company years and years before he did. The Model T, which he had to be begged to stop building, was way past its sell-by date when he gave it up. For what was the biggest car builder in the world, FoMoCo needed “saving” a few times from the 1920s thru the early 50s, when Henry still cast a long shadow.
Edsel, the man who basically co-invented the Lincoln Continental, had some flair and an eye for autos, and was sorta driven to an early grave by his dad. Edsel died during WWII, Henry succeeded him by four years.
trollhattan
The Tweet could have stopped there.
“The Plot Against America” has Henry Ford as secretary of the interior. Some expected him to “behave.”
Jager
@ThresherK: Ford had a chance to buy VW after WWII for little or nothing. Henry II passed on the deal
Old Henry didn’t install hydraulic brakes on their cars until 1939, years after the other manufacturers did. Ever drive a car with mechanical brakes? It’s a thrill you won’t forget.
zhena gogolia
@Japa21:
Excellent ad.
raven
Tiger, Mickelson, Brady and Manning have raised almost 20 million dollars in a charity golf match with two holes to go.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
I did Nazi that coming.
252man
@Jager: Ford abandoned their rights to the Jeep after World War II. Also, his grandson, William Clay Ford, owned the Detroit Lions from the mid-1960s until his death a few years ago.
Baud
Henry Ford. Made excellent cars. Absolutely the best cars. Really roomy cars with lots of legensraum.
raven
@Baud: I’d rather push a Chevy than drive Ford.
ThresherK
Henry II did that in 1948, when Ford was sinking like crazy, almost losing second place to Plymouth, and running 40% behind Chevy. They were making the “saving throw” which turned out to be the 1949 Ford. Again, it’s considered another self-made crisis which a better-managed company would not have stumbled into.
The Rootes Group in GB passed on VW. And Wolfsburg was quite close to the Soviet sector.
As odd as it is to say now, the wide popularity of the Beetle was not a foregone conclusion.
Poe Larity
Sheesh, it’s just those “International” ones, silly. Only four volumes of it. He’d give his Rabbi neighbor a new car every year. Not that he was probably terrified a Catholic would move in.
Amir Khalid
@ThresherK:
It’s a pity, isn’t it, that Edsel’s name was put on a Ford model that became infamous for its dreadful build quality.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
That sounds like Trump to the core.
Why do you think Trump is to impressed?
Amir Khalid
@ThresherK:
Would Volkswagen be the industry behemoth it is now, had Ford acquired it in the 1940s? I think not.
ThresherK
@Amir Khalid: I don’t know which company could have run them the same way, from the start of the assembly line, to the end of mechanics’ training at the dealers.
That whole thing GM had with Opels and later Isuzus sold by Buick dealers was simply not the same.
Baud
I have to admit, I prefer seeing Trump with his mouth covered.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
Should have been bought by that other Henry who dabbled in autos – Kaiser.
:)
Anne Laurie
As one tweeter (RSchooley) said, He looks objectively better that way!
ThresherK
@NotMax: The story goes that Oldsmobile sold a V8 engine to K-F for some mockup testing, and when a GM guy happened to see the not-overweight Kaiser zooming around, they decided not to vend them an engine for sales use.
A V8 may have given K-F many more years.
ETA: The idea of K-F selling the Beetle and never developing the Henry J is some serious “alternate history novel” stuff.
(Yes, I have read more books on the “little” American carmakers than absolutely necessary.)
Bruuuuce
Some good news for an Open Thread:
NotMax
@ThresherK
“Ach du lieber Gott, ve’re changing der nammen of der factory to vhat?”
:)
debbie
If Stephen Miller didn’t write that speech, then I’ll eat my hat. The ADL has reported there were more acts of anti-Semitism in 2019 than in the prior 40 years combined. I’d love to know how Trump’s Jewish supporters react to that.
khead
I was actually a little relieved that the weather dampened the festivities in Wildwood NJ this weekend. But the pics from Ocean City MD are…. remarkable.
Bruuuuce
@debbie: “Trump’s Jewish supporters” are what the rest of us call a shande fur de goyim. Others would say “self-hating”, or just “delusional”
Jeffro
Didn’t trumpov once say he kept Mein Kampf on his nightstand or something?
(rushes off to check Google)
My bad…it was a collection of A.H.’s speeches. And it was Ivana who said it, not trumpov himself. Totally different. Guy’s totally in the clear. Never mind.
ThresherK
@NotMax: Yeah, that coulda gone better. I used to get healthcare from Kaiser Permanente, which I believe is a descendant of the original firm.
Brachiator
I knew one of Ford’s great grandchildren in college. A very smart, non-fascist young woman. She was not really expected to be involved with the company because she was a girl, and by her generation there were more non-Fords in executive positions.
Mike in NC
How many times has this imbecile used the expression “until I came along”? For most of us, being ashamed of being a US citizen didn’t happen until he came along.
WaterGirl
@Bruuuuce: I thought we had heard that news a couple of weeks ago, but since this is federal court, maybe that was a lower court?
Can they still take this to the Corrupt Supremes?
Emerald
@Jeffro: As tempting as it is, I’ve never believed that. I mean, he doesn’t read. At all.
CaseyL
@debbie:
The only Jews who are reported to support the Orange Fart are either part of the Golden (Calf) Club, like Adelson (and Jared Kushner), or the hyper-Orthodox who are fundies. (Jewish fundies, but still fundies.). In both cases, they think they’ll be protected by their status.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@trollhattan:
I read The Plot Against America. It’s a good book up until the end, when the reader is expected to believe that the US being nearly a year or so out of WW2 didn’t severely alter history (no lend-lease either) and the timeline continued on as it did in the real timeline
Patricia Kayden
SFAW
@Baud:
That there was a thing of beauty.
Yutsano
@Patricia Kayden: I don’t know if I agree too much with that last point. I would have to see the study (which Kapur doesn’t direct us to) but it has been shown that the more people who vote the better Democrats seem to do. Of course I’m in a red spot in a deep blue state so what do I know?
Geoboy
I know we’ve had bad presidents before and racist presidents before. But this is the first president who’s been a total asswipe in every sense of the word.
Patricia Kayden
TOP123
It’s a good ad, but I’d really love to hear some political ads that didn’t sound like they were set to the score of Transformers XII
SFAW
@Geoboy:
Asswipes the world over have contacted their attorneys to send you letters of strong protest, and to sue you for defamation.
Patricia Kayden
Redshift
@khead:
I have to say, I’m a little skeptical of the Ocean City footage. It looks like one of those long shots that makes people look closer together than they actually are.
It’s still not good, but it may not be as bad as it looks there.
Jackie
O/T, but has Adam been around? I haven’t seen any posts or articles from him since…?
Patricia Kayden
@Yutsano: The third point is that vote by mail doesn’t favor one party over the other. But yes, you are right that the more people vote, the more Democrats win.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Redshift:
Granted, it could’ve been shot long-shot , but not one person was wearing a mask in the clip that was posted a day or so ago. Some local restaurants I drove by today were packed and there were lots of maskless white people congregating in the parking lots, not practicing social distancing
Redshift
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
After all, he did forget Tim Cook’s name and assume he was called Tim Apple.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Patricia Kayden:
“BlueMAGA!” -Rose Twitter, probably
Redshift
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Yeah, no argument that a lot of these idiots are refusing to listen to the fact that there are stages between lockdown and “open.”
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
But you still know he has resting-butthole face.
Frankensteinbeck
Oh, Trump knows. This was not a coincidence in any way. Trump has a history. He’s a white supremacist. He likes to talk about his ‘good genes’. He was furious when told having his own concentration camps was a bad look and insisted on them. He referred to swastika-toting Nazis as ‘very fine people.’ He’s a Nazi, and he knows about Ford, and while what he knows about Ford is probably hazy in his senile brain, he wasn’t about to waste a chance to give a white supremacist compliment to a white supremacist hero.
Anne Laurie
Lotsa people own books they never intend to read — think of all the ‘evangelicals’ who flourish bibles, or the entire Regnery publishing output. Those aren’t meant for ‘books’, they’re icon-objects in booklike format.
And in the ‘totemic book-shaped object’ sense, I can *totally* see Trump owning a copy of Hitler’s speeches… maybe sleeping with it under his pillow, to absorb the full force of its mana.
zhena gogolia
@Frankensteinbeck:
Absolutely. He knew exactly what he was saying.
Lapassionara
@Redshift: My thought exactly. Why can’t people wear masks and practice social distancing while doing their errands? Why do they have to disregard the health of others?
Jackie
@Lapassionara: “Of others…” You answered your own question.
schrodingers_cat
@Frankensteinbeck: Thank You. He is responsible for the death of 100,000 Americans and people are still giving him a pass.
Bruuuuce
@WaterGirl: I believe what the judge said a couple of weeks ago was indicative, but not a ruling. This is an actual ruling, which he expects to be appealed. On the other hand, the last graf gives me hope:
khead
@Redshift: I understand. There’s also video on the local news here though and… yikes.
Have y’all seen the pool at the Lake of the Ozarks? No link but it’s easy to find.
sdhays
@Baud: I certainly understand why he doesn’t want be photographed wearing it, though. It accentuates how out of place he is wherever he is. His vomit-hole is covered, and that’s basically all he is. Without his nasty head rectum, he’s just a dumpy old man who doesn’t belong, is pretty confused (and angry about that) all of the time, and is convinced that all the people around him almost certainly privately view him (justifiably) with contempt. He looks deflated and weak to an almost comical level. In that photo, he looks like he’s been sent to stand in the corner as punishment.
Masks don’t automatically have that effect, but it’s what he communicates with the mask on.
jl
From what I read in the news, a (women!!??) state official made sure everyone knew, publicly knew, that state laws would be enforced during Trump’s visit. I think she even reminded everyone that no one is above the law, not even a president. And ends up, Trump had to wear a mask, though it looks he did that only as briefly as absolutely necessary.
So, Trump suffered a triple burn there, and will continue to threaten to punish, lash out at, and rudely and vulgarly insult, a state he needs to win.
So, nice that some things are going well.
sdhays
@Yutsano: Also, I think it can depend on how hostile the state was to one party’s voters to begin with. For example, I think vote by mail would be a game changer for Democrats in places like Georgia where the state regularly actively fucks with Democratic (black) voters. Vote by mail completely removes a lot of impediments that were used to deny Stacy Abrams from winning the last election for Governor.
Things aren’t as close, usually, in other Southern states, but a similar effect would probably be seen there as well. Wisconsin, too.
JoyceH
@Frankensteinbeck: Back before Trump got into politics, he didn’t just talk about his “good genes”, but would specify “good German genes”. Presumably the very first political consultant he ever hired made a strenuous point of “don’t EVER say that again”.
Ohio Mom
Trump’s mask is just like his suits, poorly tailored.
It grazes his eyes, sitting a half inch too high on his nose. Instead of being cut like a surgeon’s mask, it is cut like a bank robber’s.
Okay, I guess there is an argument that “bank robber” is a more appropriate look for Trump than doctor/healer.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
“I am the one of the good Jews” going by my sister’s mother in law.
sdhays
@debbie: When the son of the Israeli PM happily retweets neo-Nazis (non-ironically), there is clearly a subset of even Jewish people who think that the Nazis may have had a point. I have a hard time believing it, but apparently it’s true.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Geoboy:
Andrew Jackson says “Hi!”
Yutsano
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Why does everyone forget they came for the kapos too?
marklar
@debbie:
Re: Antisemitic incidents in 2019.
How will Trump’s Jewish supporters explain it?
Easy…THE SQUAD being elected in 2018!!!!
August West
@Redshift:
He also called Marillyn Hewson “Marillyn Lockheed”
businessinsider.com/trump-marillyn-lockheed-martin-ceo-hewson-2018-3
Trump is simply a monstrous waste of protoplasm.
Mike in NC
@Ohio Mom: Hell, Trump probably asked for a bank robber mask because he knows the damn courts are never going to reveal his taxes or other financial records.
Alex
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I know, it’s like Roth got near the end, realized all the ramifying complexity he’d let himself in for, and just gave up. I guess he had no interest in writing a series like Harry Turtledove. I’ve always thought Jo Walton’s Farthing series is the best of the Nazi alternate histories, though of course not focused on America.
sdhays
@August West: So what would he call himself if he forgot his own surname? Donald Russia? Donald Russian-Mob? Donald Putin? Donald Shit?
SFAW
@Comrade Scrutinizer:
Although Jackson was certainly dickish in many ways, he at least had accomplishments (e.g., Battle of New Orleans). Trump has accomplished nothing in his life, except maybe blow through his inheritance.
SFAW
@sdhays:
Por que no los todos?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
To quote Ambrose Bierce;
CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. One who follows the teachings of Christ in so far as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin.
Alex
@sdhays: I still think his main objection to masks is they smudge his bronzer.
Alex
Not only is Dana Nessel a ((Jew)) and a ((woman)), she’s also an ((LGBT)) who is largely responsible for gay marriage being the the law of the land. She does not suffer fools.
sdhays
@SFAW: How about Andrew Johnson? I’m not sure how personable he was in person, but he was sufficiently dickish that he was nearly removed from office (and should have been).
Ruckus
@Frankensteinbeck:
It’s hard to tell what shitforbrains actually knows today, but he’s been a racist fuck his entire life, another crappy thing he learned from good ole dad. He would know about Henry Ford. A racist big businessman? Yeah it’s in there somewhere.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Turns out he was really excited to get his small hands on a new book that came out during the 90s, until discovering he had misheard the title to be It Takes a Pillage.
//
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Frankensteinbeck: It’s not impossible that the Trump family mythology is they are just like the Fords since Trump’s grandfather made the family fortune the same time as Ford did. But I would suspect it’s more racism in the social Darwinist sense than some blood and race thing “We Trump’s a better than anyone because Grand Dad was rags to riches” kind of thing.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
Oh come on. He’s never been smart enough to know the word Pillage……. Steal, cheat, fuck over, MEMEMEMEMEMEME, these are words he knows, pillage is very remotely possible but I doubt he could have ever made the connection….. //
He’s no brain off the old block, now an asshole off the old block, sure.
August West
@sdhays:
I don’t know the answer, but I just wish this knuckle dragging Neanderthal were headed for a psych ward or a federal prison if he loses on Election Day.
I try to avoid using over the top hyperbole in conversation, but given the outrageous death toll this nation has suffered because we have a single digit IQ President I regard Trump’s tenure in office as a goddamn crime against humanity.
Kent
I think the more accurate way of putting it is that vote-by-mail disadvantages attempts at in-person voter suppression and basically makes it harder to suppress votes.
In normal states like Oregon or California that do not practice voter suppression, there is no particular advantage to either party.
The GOP mainly opposes vote by mail in those remaining states where they win by voter suppression. Because they know they are losing one of their tools and advantages.
Soprano2
@khead: Was just watching the Lake of the Ozarks footage on the local news. Why does my state always make the national news for embarrassing things? Although I’m sure lots of local people think it’s just great…..
August West
OT
Happy Birthday Bob Dylan!
youtube.com/watch?v=3kh6K_-a0c4
Duane
@JoyceH: Blood and Soil.
Kent
Trump is basically a creation of Roy Cohn. If ever there was a self-hating Jew it was Roy Cohn who was a right-hand man to Joseph McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover. Fascists, the lot of them. Here is the definitive article on the topic
vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship
Thor Heyerdahl
Mit dem Ford fort, mit dem Zug zurück.
debbie
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
My brothers would mumble something similar.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Soprano2:
Just be thankful you don’t live in Floriduh, when it come to embarrassing things Floriduh says “Hold My Beer”.
Uncle Cosmo
@SFAW: “Legensraum” should take its place beside “Fahrvergnügen” in the VW Hall of Fame.
Ruckus
Just had a thought. I wonder if a lot of the support for shitforbrains is because his fans know he’s as big a fuck up as they are, who blames everyone else for all their problems. There have been a number of stories on twitter about middle aged white women who’ve attacked verbally and physically other people, in stores, on the street, even cops in uniform that live in their building. It just struck me that none of these people seem anywhere near normal, they blame masks, they blame people of color, they blame everyone else for all the crap in their lives. Sound familiar? shitforbrains of course does the same thing, it is never, ever his fault. Tens of thousands of people dying because he’s a fucking idiot. He blames everyone else for everything that doesn’t go his way, which is everything, and his fans are doing the same exact thing. Do they like him because he’s proved that everything is everyone else’s fault? They like him because he’s one of them, is my point.
He’s the most common, common man to ever hold the job of president. I don’t think that’s why he was elected but I think it’s why his polling isn’t in the toilet, at 27% where it belongs.
evodevo
@SFAW: Yes. This. He may have been a populist demagogue candidate, and a flaming racist, but he was an accomplished military leader..which is miles more than Trumpy has ever done…
SFAW
@Uncle Cosmo:
Somehow, I don’t think Wolfsburg (or wherever HQ is these days) would feel the same way. Well, that is unless they moved HQ to the Sudetenland and I missed it.
SFAW
@Kent:
Or vice versa
J R in WV
@raven:
I have never owned a Ford auto, but enjoyed a number of Ford trucks, starting with an F-250 we used mostly for hay back when we kept livestock. Then several Ford Rangers, winding up with an F-350, which was a super truck. Never had much trouble with any of them
Cannot ever forgive GM for torturing Saab to death. Our 1991 Saab 900 was the best auto we owned, reliable, same clutch for 240,000 miles of smooth shifting road. Two brake jobs, one rear main seal, which cost $4.39 in parts and $800 in labor…
I hit a bear once, in the mountains, during a thunderstorm just after sunset. Cost $1,200 for bodywork — can’t imagine how much damage ther would have been in an American made sedan. Was shocked, after meeting my folks for dinner, driving back home, wife asked “Do you think the bear is OK?”
I said I hoped so, because I wasn’t going into the woods in the dark Thunderstorm to ask bear if it needed help… I love animals, but there is a limit!