Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“Cheese and Kraken paired together for the appetizer trial.”

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Let’s finish the job.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

“And when the Committee says to “report your income,” that could mean anything!

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

This really is a full service blog.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

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  5. 5.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @lamh36:

    Just saw this! Super sickening! No word where it will be held as yet. My friend and I can’t think where he might like it. She says all the streets in the city are torn up now.

    He liked the TPD cop who told recruits in a Tulsa suburb in January 2020 that cops need to kill 20% more blacks, right?—-the man is disgusting!

  6. 6.

    Erin in Flagstaff

    My friend had theories where the treasure was hidden and was all packed up and ready to spend the next two weeks looking for it…until the news broke about it being found. If someone actually found it, my friend missed his chance, though where he was looking for it may not be where it was hidden. I scoured through that poem trying to identify possible locations. It was a fun puzzle.

  7. 7.

    Jeffro

    OMG Petri actually went there: How to Tell If Your Grandparent is an Antifa Agent

    KNOW THE SIGNS: HOW TO TELL IF YOUR GRANDPARENT HAS BECOME AN ANTIFA AGENT
    For your birthday, she knits you an unwanted scarf. To be used as a balaclava?
    She belongs to a decentralized group with no leadership structure that claims to be discussing a “book,” but no one ever reads the book and all they seem to do is drink wine.
    Is always talking on the phone with an “aunt” you have never actually met in person. Aunt TIFA????

  9. 9.

    Starfish

    @lamh36: People are asking what he is planning to do between November and January if he loses, and I am pretty sure he is going to paint a confederate flag across the front of the White House and have the klan over for a state dinner.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: It probably shouldn’t be, but the number of major OBVIOUS fuck yous to a large part of the country is still really shocking?  There truly is no bottom.  Not til they get to hell, anyway.

  12. 12.

    Old School

    @lamh36: Not that there can’t be other reasons, but Trump’s birthday is June 14th.  It’s his birthday present to himself.

  14. 14.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @Ladyraxterinok:

    And just recently 2 white Tulsa cops stopped 2 black teenage boys and did a chokehold on one—-bit hazy on details. Didn’t find report anywhere but today posted on democraticunderground. From poster’s remarks this may have been in a thinly populated area in North Tulsa, a  historically black area of city

  15. 15.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Starfish:

    People are asking what he is planning to do between November and January if he loses 

    Trying to burn the country to the ground because he’s a traitorous Soviet shitpile mobster conman who sucks Putin’s asshole.

  18. 18.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @mrmoshpotato: Trying to burn the country to the ground because he’s a traitorous Soviet shitpile mobster conman who sucks Putin’s asshole.

    Gotta speed up his timetable if he only has a few short months instead of four more years.

  19. 19.

    dmsilev

    @Jeffro:

    Hired a clown for your child’s birthday — part of the Juggalo command structure?

    You have admit that this would indeed be very suspicious and alarming behavior.

  20. 20.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @lamh36:

    In the 20s the Klan was quite powerful in Tulsa, like it was in many places in the country then. Have you seen the film of the massive march of robed klansmen in DC in the 20s?

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @lamh36:

     

    OMG. I had seen that he was going to do a rally in Tulsa next week, but didn’t know the date.

    Juneteenth. That is simply appalling. That date, that location, in these times.

  23. 23.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Starfish: You really don’t want to know what is likely to happen under those circumstances. It will make the last couple of weeks look like a kids party with cupcakes, ice cream, a bouncy house, a piñata, and a pony ride.

  24. 24.

    The Moar You Know

    If Fenn’s treasure had been found we’d know who found it by now.

    I doubt it ever existed in the first place.

  25. 25.

    Kent

    Since this is an open thread.  I’ve been doing “classic movie nights” with my 14 year old daughter during quarantine.  And yes, we are using the more expansive definition of “classic” that extends into the 1980s.

    Last night we watched “Back to the Future” which she absolutely loved.  That came out in 1985 when I was in college.   I did the math.  The 1955 “past” in “Back to the Future” was more recent in 1985 than the 1985 “present” is from today.  The 1950s sock-hop era was 30 years in the past in 1985.  Today 1985 is 35 years in the past.

    My daughter commented as much on the 1985 fashions as 1955, asking “did all the girls have that same weird hair?” and being intrigued by the “mom jeans” that the girls were wearing in 1985.

  27. 27.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Old School:

    Not that there can’t be other reasons, but Trump’s birthday is June 14th. It’s his birthday present to himself.

    June 14th is Flag Day. No wonder he’s always humping Old Glory.

  29. 29.

    The Moar You Know

    People are asking what he is planning to do between November and January if he loses, and I am pretty sure he is going to paint a confederate flag across the front of the White House and have the klan over for a state dinner.

    @Starfish:  It won’t be something symbolic like that.  He’s going to try to get as many people killed as possible and torch as much of our infrastructure as he can.  It’s going to hit hard, because this will be something our nation has no experience with.

  32. 32.

    hueyplong

    @lamh36: I assume Philadelphia, MS lacked an arena of sufficient size.

    So Tulsa it is.

    All I ask is that it be indoors.

  35. 35.

    lamh36

    this Tulsa rally on Juneteenth has got Stephen Miller’s grubby racist hands all over it.

     

    Ain’t no way Chump knew anything about the date

  36. 36.

    cain

    @The Moar You Know: 

    @Starfish: It won’t be something symbolic like that. He’s going to try to get as many people killed as possible and torch as much of our infrastructure as he can. It’s going to hit hard, because this will be something our nation has no experience with.

    I wonder if Fox News will cover him at that point? The right wing noise machine will stir up the conspiracies like crazy – and then gas lighting when Prez Biden shows up.

    Pick John Cole for Vice President – bird nests for everyone!

  38. 38.

    Brachiator

    @Kent: 

    Since this is an open thread. I’ve been doing “classic movie nights” with my 14 year old daughter during quarantine. And yes, we are using the more expansive definition of “classic” that extends into the 1980s.

    I guess that this definition of “classic” would put the first Star Wars movie in the Silent Era. ;)

    But good to hear that everyone had a great time.

  39. 39.

    debbie

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    There’s a hashtag, #Obamasaveflagday, where people have been asked to bombard Trump’s Twitter feed with photos of Obama. A birthday present I can get behind!

  44. 44.

    MisterForkbeard

    @lamh36:  It’s like Reagan’s campaign kickoff in 1980.

    There to piss off liberals and excite the racists.

  47. 47.

    HumboldtBlue

    Now that traitor flags and movies glorifying to racist slavers are on the front page, I’ll admit I’ve never watched Gone With The Wind. Primarily because as a kid I was annoyed at the lack of quality movies about the Civil War and it appeared to be just another soap opera.

  48. 48.

    Jeffro

    @cain:I wonder if Fox News will cover him at that point? The right wing noise machine will stir up the conspiracies like crazy – and then gas lighting when Prez Biden shows up.

     

    I’d like one, just ONE, post-election/pre-inauguration interview with a Hillary voter.  It can even be in a Midwestern diner, I don’t care.  Just one lousy interview where just one of us gets to say, “SOME. OF US. SAW THIS COMING. FIVE. YEARS. AGO.”

  49. 49.

    Baud

    @Jeffro:

    Agreed. I read all these people elsewhere talking about what a monster Trump is and I’m like “Oh really. Tell me more.”

  51. 51.

    Jeffro

    @Baud: Yup.  That, or “Well…weren’t you saying it would be good to have someone who’d ‘shake things up’?”

    Complete racist, complete liar, completely corrupt, completely in Russia’s pocket, and a complete moron.  All of these things were known even before the blessed escalator ride.

  52. 52.

    JAFD

    As I’ve mentioned, I’ve spent couple of dozen Election Days working for local Boards of Election *, shoving around voting machines at 6 AM, checking names and signatures at the table, etc. etc.
    I’m looking at the videos from Georgia yesterday, saying to myself “How the heck did they manage to **** things up that bad. Even deliberately.” My mind is boggled.
    Hope all you jackals are staying healthy, happy and hydrated, irregardless.

    *and am wondering if I’ll ever be working at an in-person election again…

  53. 53.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro:

    @Baud: Don’t hold your breath, guys.

    Driftglass and bluegal look out on a cornfield in downstate Springfield, IL where “Chicago” is code for ‘crime,’ ‘liberal,’ and ‘black.’

    They’ve been waiting for their NYT interview for decades.

    NYT: What do you think of Biden?

    Driftglass: Let us tell you what we think of your coverage of the Iraq War pimps back in 2003!

  54. 54.

    burnspbesq

    ICYMI, NASCAR has banned the traitor flag from its events.

    The best comment on Twitter was a reminder that the REAL Confederate flag will still be displayed with one lap to go.

  56. 56.

    Jeffro

    @HumboldtBlue: My mom is, oddly, losing her mind over these statues toppling + any police officer anywhere getting injured or killed.  She thinks Antifa is huddled on her front porch, just waiting until she takes the dog for a walk after dinner and then WHAMMO.  It’s sad.

    For those of you who have read Christopher Wylie’s MINDF*CK, about how Cambridge Analytica used social media and related data on people’s ‘Big Five’ personality traits to manipulate voters on both sides…and how Bannon & Co took all that for a test run in Virginia prior to 2016…it’s chilling.  My mom now gets all her news from Facebook (which in her case is mostly clips and articles from Fox, really) and I’m starting to wonder if that’s what’s up here.

  58. 58.

    Jeffro

    @mrmoshpotato: tell Driftglass to say that at the end of the interview, after weighing in on all the free media and “both-sides” BS that the NYT gave trumpov back in 2016! ;)

  63. 63.

    Jeffro

    @burnspbesq: so in the wingnut mind:

    • NFL caving on kneeling
    • NASCAR banning the Confederate battle flag
    • The Navy doing the same
    • Columbus statues toppling
    • Confederate statues coming down
    • Schools being renamed
    • Military bases being renamed

    What, exactly, are white people supposed to lean on/be proud of, if not for Confederate flags, statues, and school names?  What’s the point of even getting up in the morning? (eyeroll)

  64. 64.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @HumboldtBlue: An old man took a fall in St. Paul and the folks in Virginia had similar thoughts for him and Boston didn’t have much time for him either.

    @lamh36: COLUMBUS- During a hearing on whether to declare racism a public health crisis, state Sen. Steve Huffman, R-Tipp City, asked if “the colored population” is hit harder by the coronavirus because perhaps they don’t wash their hands as well as other groups

    And this is where protesters decide to throw the city of Columbus into the Ohio River.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Driftglass and bluegal look out on a cornfield in downstate Springfield, IL where “Chicago” is code for ‘crime,’ ‘liberal,’ and ‘black.’

    I might have to disagree with you on that.  I’d say that if “Chicago” is code for anything downstate, it’s that Chicago gets all the $$ and the perks, and downstate gets screwed.

    Not speaking for myself, of course, because I grew up in Chicago, and I, and this college town, don’t have that attitude.

  66. 66.

    Another Scott

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope: That would be an interesting trick of geography!

    (Tipp City is north of Dayton.  Columbus is an hour away to the east.  The Ohio River is a couple of hours south of Columbus.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  67. 67.

    schrodingers_cat

    @lamh36: He is also getting rid of the entire asylum system and forbid anyone on long term visas on returning to the United States supposedly these are precautions against COVID-19.

    Bunker fuhrer is doubling down on destruction.

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: Someone must have invented time travel, because I thought I was sitting here in 2020 and then I read “colored population” and the idea that black people don’t know how to wash their fucking hands.

  69. 69.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro: Hehe

    NYT: Well, that was..….interesting.  Thanks for your time.

    Driftglass: Let’s talk about the Bush regime now.  Shall we start with the day W announced he was running for President?

  70. 70.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @mrmoshpotato: Their weekly (Professional Left) podcast is excellent. Highly recommend. I’ve read Driftglass for years and he is truly prescient.

  71. 71.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Another Scott: Yea, I noticed the Rep wasn’t actually from Columbus.  I just saw the report was from there and ran with it.  Fortunately, I don’t think the distance affects the plausibility of dumping a whole city into a river.

  73. 73.

    Steeplejack

    @lamh36:

    During a hearing on whether to declare racism a public health crisis [. . .].

    Will take that as a yes.

  76. 76.

    Jackie

    @SiubhanDuinne: I have HATED my birthday as of 2015. I want my birthday back! I loved celebrating my birthday with the American flag. Please, everybody, vote Trump out, so I can celebrate my birthday with joy and happiness again, 2021!!!

  77. 77.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Sure Lurkalot: Oh I know. :)

    Been listening (and reading) since before November 2016, and I usually listen to the week’s episode again on Saturday.

  78. 78.

    Martin

    @Starfish: He’ll run the courts to declare the election invalid because cheating. He’ll sue the electoral college delegates.

    Y’all think he’s going to accept this?

  79. 79.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl:

    Someone must have invented time travel 

    Time travel for 80k+?  Because hopefully enough people came to their damn senses.

  80. 80.

    Kathleen

    @lamh36: I wonder if this was the same Ohio State Senator who compared  Dr. Amy Acton’s (Director, Ohio Dept of Health) shelter in place orders to the Holocaust (Dr. Acton is Jewish).

  82. 82.

    cain

    @Jeffro:

    @HumboldtBlue: My mom is, oddly, losing her mind over these statues toppling + any police officer anywhere getting injured or killed.  She thinks Antifa is huddled on her front porch, just waiting until she takes the dog for a walk after dinner and then WHAMMO.  It’s sad.

    What about the latino gang? Are we still scared of them or is this a bruce wayne/batman thing where they are both MS-13 by day and antifa by night?

  83. 83.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    “The Politico-Morning Consult poll released Wednesday morning found that 27 percent of respondents somewhat or strongly agree that Trump is a man of faith.”

    They must think Faith is the name of a porn star.

  85. 85.

    lamh36

    A break from the bullshit.  Today Sasha Obama is 19 years old…and now I feel OLD.

     

    I still remember her as the little girl who said “hi daddy” at Obama’s first DNC nomination convention!

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jeffro:

    What, exactly, are white people supposed to lean on/be proud of, if not for Confederate flags, statues, and school names?  What’s the point of even getting up in the morning? (eyeroll)

    Miracle Whip!

  87. 87.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jackie:

    We’ll do that for you! In the meantime, console yourself with the knowledge that you also share with Che Guevara, Sheffield Graf, and Harriet Beecher Stowe, among others.

    Happy birthday in advance!

  88. 88.

    Death Panel Truck

    When it becomes clear he’s gonna be wiped out in November, Trump just might jet out of the country and resign inflight, thereby making Pence the nominee. That way, he can say, “Hey, Pence lost, not me!” His fragile ego won’t allow him to accept a landslide ass-kicking.

  90. 90.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl:

    I might have to disagree with you on that.  I’d say that if “Chicago” is code for anything downstate, it’s that Chicago gets all the $$ and the perks, and downstate gets screwed. 

    That too, but I’m also explicitly saying what bluegal said a week or two ago.

  91. 91.

    AliceBlue

    @HumboldtBlue: That’s my home town.  Rome has two hospitals and three colleges–lots of white collar professionals.  I thought the city was better than this but I can’t say I’m surprised.

  92. 92.

    Jeffro

    @cain: 

    She’s still plenty terrified of them, but they’ve faded back a bit in terms of current anxieties.

    She needs to quit getting her news from Facebook and turn off the tv too while she’s at it.

  93. 93.

    danielx

    @Martin:

    Never happen because he’s Donald Trump, and by definition that means he doesn’t lose, ever, at anything. If he has to win by cheating, hey…it still goes in his personal W column.

    Trump 101: if you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying.

    eta: if he does lose in spite of every filthy idea his diseased mind can conceive he WILL trash as much as possible on the way out the door, because America doesn’t deserve him and he will need revenge. On everybody.

  97. 97.

    Immanentize

    My concern, is that Trump’s “strategy” like that of Bolsanaro, is to get someone/pretend someone to try to kill him.  As a reason for sympathy.  And crackdown.  Juneteenth.

    Sounds like a Barr/Miller production.

  98. 98.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Sheffield Graf

    Well, that’s what happens when you fail to check for autocorrections before the edit window closes.

    Correction: Steffi Graf.

  99. 99.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Death Panel Truck: “I’m luxurious and tremendous at resigning and fleeing to Moscow!  Not like that future loser Pence!  Sad!”

    Will they all bunk with FSB Eddie (Snowden)?

  100. 100.

    different-church-lady

    @Immanentize:

    TRUMP: “Meadows! Find someone to pretend to kill me!”

    TRUMP, TWO DAYS LATER: “Meadows! I said someone to pretend to kill me, not actually try it!”

    TRUMP, TWO WEEKS LATER: “Polls that say 83% of the country agrees with the guy that’s trying to kill me are FAKE NEWS!!!”

  101. 101.

    Jinchi

    @Jeffro: “SOME. OF US. SAW THIS COMING. FIVE. YEARS. AGO.”

    Just counting Hillary voters, you could say Most of us saw this coming.

  105. 105.

    Jeffro

    @Adam L Silverman: LOL surely you meant Duke’s…

    On another note: looks like the House impeachment managers get to take…well, not exactly a victory lap…more like a “we told you so” lap

     

    After the trial concluded, Trump focused on undermining institutions that could provide accountability and transparency. He fired or removed five inspectors general for simply doing their jobs: including reporting on shortages of PPE and other gear in hospitals and investigating potential misconduct by the SoS.

    The president has made clear his interest in turning the traditionally independent Justice Department into a political arm that can punish enemies and protect allies. In Attorney General William P. Barr, Trump has an enabler of that corrupt mission. Barr allows the president to intervene in criminal cases with implications for his personal interests, and Barr carries out Trump’s orders in shocking fashion.

    It goes on to list many more Bad Things Going On under trumpov & Co and asks that the enablers think about, um, something.

    C’mon, Schiff!  You guys did a righteous job during the impeachment trial.  No more second, third, and fourth chances.  Pass more Articles (against trumpov, Barr, or both) or just scorch the GOP – none of this “please find your way” stuff.

  110. 110.

    Jinchi

    @Adam L Silverman: You really don’t want to know what is likely to happen under those circumstances.

    Remember how the year started off with the president getting impeached for extortion?  Life was so much simpler then.

  111. 111.

    Jeffro

    @Jinchi: Fair enough.  I always give myself too much credit as some sort of insightful genius, like it was hard to figure out how a trumpov presidency was going to end up.  ;)

    Most of us did indeed see this coming.  Which reminds me: why isn’t the national snooze media asking Hillz if all this crap is the “apocalypse” she warned the country about?  Surely her prescient opinion should be re-examined and noted for its 110% accuracy?  Amirite snooze media?

  122. 122.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Jinchi: Remember how the year started off with the president getting impeached for extortion?  Life was so much simpler then.

    Hopefully on December 31 he’ll look on that as the best thing that happened to him all year.  So far, so…well not good…

  130. 130.

    HumboldtBlue

    Oh, and one of the more interesting Twitter threads I followed yesterday was #blackintheivory as black members of academia (and those still working to become a part of academia) describe some of their experiences.

  134. 134.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro:

    C’mon, Schiff!  You guys did a righteous job during the impeachment trial.  No more second, third, and fourth chances.  Pass more Articles (against trumpov, Barr, or both) or just scorch the GOP – none of this “please find your way” stuff. 

    You realize it’s still the same Senate who had all Russthlicans minus one go “Meh!  He’s our traitorous Soviet shitpile mobster conman!  And we love him!”

    Right?

  136. 136.

    Jeffro

    @mrmoshpotato: thank you, yes, I’m aware.  I gave the Dems options.  =)

    Seriously, I like that they wrote this piece and laid it all out, but instead of “please come to your senses and join us”, I would have either concluded with, “look what you have done to this country by not honoring your oath” or “we stand ready to re-impeach for abuse of power if one – just one – Republican official will stand up and say ‘enough…this president* must go’ “.

  138. 138.

    HumboldtBlue

    He was a little kid when he played in the Little League World Series for a team out of Jackie Robinson LL in Chicago, now he’s the Cubs’ first-round pick.

    Meet Ed Howard.

  139. 139.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Starfish: Why is “How much worse can 2020 get” always answered with an exponential curve?

    Think of 2020 as a lens that, once we are through, we will all see clearly.

  140. 140.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro:

    I would have either concluded with, “look what you have done to this country by not honoring your oath” or “we stand ready to re-impeach for abuse of power if one – just one – Republican official will stand up and say ‘enough…this president* must go’ “. 

    I. TOTALLY. AGREE.  Along with a few “traitorous motherfuckers!” thrown in by Schiff.

  141. 141.

    Brachiator

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Sheffield Graf

    Sounds like one of Conan Doyle’s early ideas for the name of his famous detective

    Or a fancy product made with the express permission of Her Majesty, the Queen

  146. 146.

    Jeffro

    @Jeffro: meanwhile, to the list back at comment #63, we can now add

    • Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and dozens of other pro athletes signing on to end ‘qualified immunity’ for police
    • LeBron and other pro athletes starting a group to protect black voting rights.

    History happens FAST, doesn’t it?

  147. 147.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope: You have faith in nearly 63 million racists and fascists?

    You have faith in 10s of millions of selfish, shithead children who went “Fuck Hillary!  I’m not gonna vote!”?

    I hope your faith is well placed.

  148. 148.

    Jeffro

    @Jeffro: meanwhile, I see that as of an hour ago, trumpov is praising an Italian archbishop(?) who called BLM “children of darkness”

    All I’m asking for this November is a stark contrast in choices here…and whew are we ever on our way…

  152. 152.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @mrmoshpotato: Well, we may finally be getting some long-overdue movement on police reform and I imagine at least a few more people get that government spending on healthcare can be a good thing.

    As things stand people aren’t taking Trump’s shit.  I think things bode at least a little well

    @Brachiator: How many year-end reviews will be titled “2020 Vision?”

    See? Brachiator gets it.

  156. 156.

    Jeffro

    @Martin:

     

    @Subsole:

    Would be the irony of ironies if it gets to/is dragged to SCOTUS, which issues a “one time only, non-precedent-setting ruling” a la Bush v Gore…only this time it’s trumpov who is kicked to the curb.

    I really don’t worry about Roberts in that instance.  The country would fucking go up in flames if Biden wins by a good margin or better and they try to screw around with the results.

  157. 157.

    Mike in NC

    New show on Netflix called “The Show”, about a reality TV program that features people committing suicide on live television so the money made by the network will go to their families, and the ratings are phenomenon. In a country that elected a ratings-obsessed moron and TV host who enjoys humiliating people, not too much of a stretch.

  159. 159.

    HumboldtBlue

    @Brachiator:

    Sheffield Graf

    Or a fancy product made with the express permission of Her Majesty, the Queen

    That’s a thread winner.

    @Amir Khalid:

    Before this post I’d never heard of Forrest Fenn.

    Before this post I’d never heard of Sheffield Graf.

    So there’s that.

  160. 160.

    Subsole

    @different-church-lady:

    So I read the article, and about halfway through I realized I could hear metal and taste ringing sounds.

    I think that take actually caused me brain damage.

    I’m not even from Philly, but how dare he??

  161. 161.

    Aleta

    @HumboldtBlue: good one.

    They don’t mention Ambrosia Salad though. “Ambrosia Salad is filled with mandarin oranges, pineapple, maraschino cherries, coconut, and marshmallows and mixed in a fluffy whip cream! This is a potluck classic!”

  163. 163.

    Frankensteinbeck

    Open thread?  It is unpleasantly worth noting that today JK Rowling posted a lengthy blog that’s basically a checklist of TERF anti-trans rhetoric.  She’s been getting increasingly obvious, but apparently today was the day she felt she had to unequivocally declare that transgenderism is the enemy of feminism.  Yay.  And Ice Cube tweeted such a hardcore anti-Semitic meme that I have trouble figuring out what the Hell it even means.

  164. 164.

    Gin & Tonic

    @HumboldtBlue: There’s actually quite a lot of activity on Twitter right now about racism and sexism in Russian, East European and Central Asian studies.

  166. 166.

    Amir Khalid

    @Aleta:

    Ambrosia Salad is filled with mandarin oranges, pineapple, maraschino cherries, coconut, and marshmallows and mixed in a fluffy whip cream

    Ye gods.

  168. 168.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Frankensteinbeck: It is unpleasantly worth noting that today JK Rowling posted a lengthy blog that’s basically a checklist of TERF anti-trans rhetoric.  She’s been getting increasingly obvious, but apparently today was the day she felt she had to unequivocally declare that transgenderism is the enemy of feminism.  Yay.

    She makes me sad these days. The art is not the artist, the art is not the artist…

    And Ice Cube tweeted such a hardcore anti-Semitic meme that I have trouble figuring out what the Hell it even means.

    Do I dare even look?

  169. 169.

    Amir Khalid

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    today JK Rowling posted a lengthy blog that’s basically a checklist of TERF anti-trans rhetoric.

    It’s always sad when you have to scratch a hero off your list.

  170. 170.

    Subsole

     

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope:

    I mean, how do you shit on pulled pork sandwiches? PBJs? Turkey and dressing?

    He complains about turkey being bland, then eats a lobster roll???

    … …. ….

    His take on po’boys and tortas is acceptable, if utterly banal.

    Ugh.

    You got me, Loomis. You sly little fucker. You got me.

  171. 171.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Krope, the Formerly Dope:

    Do I dare even look?

    Knock yourself out.  You’ll be scratching your head the way I was.  It’s like a cube design inside a Star of David, so anyone can tell he’s saying something about Judaism.  Apparently it’s a reference to some really weird conspiracy theories about cubes representing Jewish control of the world.

  173. 173.

    Subsole

     

    @Jeffro: Yeah, definitely Running Man vibes there.

    It really is kind of crazy to me that he wrote such decent sci-fi. Did not see that coming, at all.

  178. 178.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Aleta: Don’t make get out my Lutheran Church cookbook from central Wisconsin.  I don’t I have had resort to it since efg left us.

  179. 179.

    different-church-lady

    @Gin & Tonic: “The icebox is being unlocked by the president of the Armenian Medical Association, under whose strict supervision these toxins are being administered.”

  180. 180.

    Patricia Kayden

    Madness. “A growing chorus of advisers outside and inside the White House believe Kushner is alienating the president's base because he is too moderate a force….His most loyal advisers fear that without a course correction Trump could lose the election.” https://t.co/0aNAuxPVWE— Kurt Andersen (@KBAndersen) June 11, 2020

  182. 182.

    August West

    @lamh36:

    Trump is incredibly consistent in his ability to sink to a new all-time low every single day.

    He’s pure, unadulterated, irredeemable, and unrepentant scum.

  183. 183.

    Feathers

    One day they’ll find the mossy stone head of Columbus among the daffodils of a dead lady welder in Boston who was active in her local library.

    Link

  184. 184.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Patricia Kayden: A growing chorus of advisers outside and inside the White House believe Kushner is alienating the president’s base because he is too moderate a force

    He only fails to care about the poor and dispossessed.  He doesn’t have the righteous loathing plants crave.

  185. 185.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    I’m dying for Katy Tur’s husband to write a book about this and look forward to the Netflix documentary series (Venmo: dddamn).

    Are there any New Mexico Balloon Juicers our there?  We should have a meet up when this is all over….been following this story for years and here for it.

  186. 186.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Frankensteinbeck: Knock yourself out.  You’ll be scratching your head the way I was.

    Didn’t see it, but saw some other weird shit.  The only cube reference I saw was something about “Saturn cubes.”  No Stars of David there.

    Some weird vaxxer shit tho.

  187. 187.

    August West

    The Louisville Courier Journal has issued a strong endorsement for Charles Booker in the Kentucky Senate race:

    Charles Booker is the kind of political leader and change agent that our commonwealth needs. We believe he is worthy of the Democratic nomination.  The Kentucky state representative, born and raised in Louisville’s West End, has the background, experience, commitment and vision to help transform our state and nation. He brings a perspective and several well-crafted ideas that Kentucky voters need to consider as we approach November’s general election.

     

    While Amy McGrath has broad support, as evidenced by her successful fundraising, she has not shown the progressive ideas and bold leadership necessary to move our state forward. She has been overly moderate, measured and cautious throughout this campaign, focusing more on her military service (which we applaud and sincerely respect) or her motherhood than offering a sweeping vision for the commonwealth — especially in these turbulent times. Unfortunately, her message to voters has been unimaginative and uninspiring.

     

    We also believe the national Democratic Party was too quick to offer its full support and fundraising apparatus to a candidate who has never held public office and stumbled out of the gate when announcing her candidacy.

     

    Booker’s vision for Kentucky and the United States is bold, progressive, positive and passionate. We believe he’s the strongest in this field of Democrats in Kentucky’s June 23 primary and encourage voters to look closely at his record and vision for our commonwealth.

     

    h/t https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/editorials/2020/06/10/courier-journal-endorsement-booker-best-democrat-face-mcconnell/5334027002/

  188. 188.

    Brachiator

    @Aleta:

    Ambrosia Salad was noted among a list of foods falling out of favor.

    Sounds… interesting? Serious Eats says ambrosia salad dates back at least to the late 1800s, and adds that it likely became popular because at the time, all those ingredients were special, exotic treats. It became linked with Christmas traditions, and it just sort of stuck around in the South.

    While there’s a small portion of the population — again, mostly in the American south — that is trying to give ambrosia salad a makeover and re-popularize it, NPR found many people are just happy this weird stuff is going the way of the dodo.

  191. 191.

    Krope, the Formerly Dope

    @Patricia Kayden: This was calculated by Stephen Miller for maximum racist dog-whistle effect. They all he’s got at this point. If you’re not racist, you can’t be a Republican.

    Try telling that to the plausible deniability crowd.  Will swear up and down they aren’t racist.  Won’t understand anything about dog whistles.  But Rs got them on lock.

  192. 192.

    Jeffro

    @different-church-lady: I’m good with that.  I just need someone to leave him the means to um, “redeem himself with honor” or whatever and then shut the bunker door.

    I can’t believe these GOP goons think they’re going to somehow thread the needle here and come through ready to hold office/hold their heads up ever again.

  193. 193.

    Jeffro

    @Patricia Kayden: Kushner…is too moderate, that’s the problem?

    It’s not that he’s dumber than a box of rocks?  (sorry rocks, no insult intended)

    Oh, ok GOP.  Please proceed.

  194. 194.

    Feathers

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ve always liked this post from Teresa Nielsen Hayden at Making Light: La cuisine de Nouvelle Zion. Wonderful collection of Intermountain West Mormon Cooking recipes and the stories behind them. I especially like the one about bringing strawberry jello salad as the food of her native land to the potluck church dinner at her church in Brooklyn.

    Just realized how old that is. Weird what pops into one’s head. But google found it.

  200. 200.

    TS (the original)

    @Patricia Kayden:

    From your link

    In response to a request for comment for this report, White House Deputy Press Secretary Judd Deere said the president has “accomplished more at this point in his first term than any President in history,” including in the White House’s estimation saving “millions of lives” with the pandemic response and “restor[ing] law and order to our streets.”

    Are they all insane or do they just lie because??

  207. 207.

    Punchy

    @TS (the original): Oh my.  Thats….wild.  That’s like a drunk driver killing 4 of 5 in a car and then bragging that they saved a life.  And lawn odor to our streets?  Yeah, those neckbeards don’t shower much….

  210. 210.

    August West

    @Kelly:

    That’s fine.  Now it’s time to start a groundswell to remove those goddamn  Confederate statues from the U.S. Capitol.

  211. 211.

    Martin

    Uh huh. 

    Chauvin would reportedly lash out at Floyd over payment too, according to Pinney.

    The club employee stated that Floyd was the one who handed the paychecks to Chauvin, who blamed Floyd for supposedly being underpaid.

    Pinney said he had “no doubt” Chauvin knew he was kneeling on the neck of one of his coworkers that day.

    Shall we start to speculate where that counterfeit 20 came from?

  213. 213.

    Aleta

    An audio recording of  “D.C. National Guard General Congratulates Troops on Protest Response ”  is at the start of  a NYT article about the National Guard being ordered to attack protesters in Lafayette Square.

    Transcript of the recording of the General speaking to troops

    The eyes of the world were upon the DC The National Guard. The actions that occurred this past week were absolutely historic. The United States Armed Forces continues to have a great credit score. And the National Guard coupled with the greater Guard Nation performed magnificently. I cannot begin to explain to you, and those of you on the line know this, the risk we have. These commanders, service members out there with ammunition, equipment moving into the field. Everything that everyone alluded to with the stress of social, mental, physical, emotional fatigue— It doesn’t go unnoticed. For all intents and purposes, we’re calling that Monday, the immediate response day was a 911.
    We were able to get out there, do link analysis to figure out how that happened. It’s quite obvious how it all happened. If you haven’t heard, uh, Wednesdays is considered the Alamo in Lafayette Park and the Saturday, which was the sixth of June, was D-Day. It was the Super Bowl. The Secretary of the Army was here with water in his eyes on Friday night June 5, setting conditions for operations on June 6.

    From the article

    (O)n one point everyone is agreed: The first days of June, a calamitous period for the Trump presidency, have been a debacle for the National Guard.  There has been a torrent of criticism from Congress, senior retired military officers and Guard members themselves.

    …

    D.C. Guard members … say they feel demoralized and exhausted. More than 60 percent are people of color, and one soldier said he and some fellow troops were so ashamed in taking part against the protests that they have kept it from family members.

     

    Interviews with two dozen military officials as well as texts, internet chats, audio recordings, emails and documents obtained by The New York Times also show that:

    * Senior Army leaders — in an effort to prevent what they feared would be a calamitous outcome if President Trump ordered combat troops from the 82nd Airborne Division holding just outside city limits to the streets — leaned heavily on the Guard to carry out aggressive tactics to prove it could do the job without active-duty forces.
    * Guard leaders issued a flurry of ad hoc orders that put thousands of Guard troops in face-to-face conflict with fellow Americans.
    * Some of the Guard troops were just out of basic training, and others had no experience in controlling disturbances in the streets. Troops were allowed to drive heavy vehicles on the streets without the usual licensing.

    In the next days, the Army is expected to release the results of a preliminary investigation into why the helicopters — a Black Hawk and, in particular, a Lakota with the Red Cross emblem designating it a medical helicopter — came to be used to terrorize protesters in Washington.

    Ryan McCarthy, the Army secretary, acknowledged that he gave the order for the helicopters to respond, but by the time that order reached the pilots, officials said, it was interpreted as high profile and urgent to disrupt the protests. Officials expect the pilots who flew the helicopters will receive some type of punishment.

    And when National Guard officials requested written guidance allowing troops without military licenses to drive armored vehicles around Washington, the officer in charge of the task force, Brig. Gen. Robert K. Ryan, said it was a verbal order from the Army’s chief of staff, Gen. James C. McConville.

    Written confirmation never came, and a Defense Department official with direct knowledge of the situation said General McConville never gave such an order.

    It’s much longer.

  214. 214.

    TS (the original)

    @Kelly:

    Richmond judge orders 10-day injunction against removal of Confederate monument

    So that is followed by your link

    Police are on scene on Richmond’s Monument Avenue where a statue of former Confederate President Jefferson Davis has been pulled to the ground.

    The Governor was going to get it removed & put in into storage but the fools had to go to the courts – surely they knew what would happen – but of course they did. Now they can do their GOP crying scene.

  215. 215.

    Martin

    @dmsilev: We was never a general for the union – at least not during the war. He resigned from the US Army to go become a plantation slave owner and then returned as a Confederate general.

    Whatever good deeds he did for the US were undone when he took up arms against the US. Surely we have better examples of US military officers from the last two world wars that we could name these bases after.

  216. 216.

    TS (the original)

    @Aleta:

    Ryan McCarthy, the Army secretary, acknowledged that he gave the order for the helicopters to respond, but by the time that order reached the pilots, officials said, it was interpreted as high profile and urgent to disrupt the protests. Officials expect the pilots who flew the helicopters will receive some type of punishment.

    The GOP way – never the fault of the guy who gave the order. The underlings just did it wrong. Why on earth wouldn’t it be interpreted as high profile? Trump was screaming for the protest to be cleared so he could take a walk.

  218. 218.

    Mike in NC

    @Kelly: In hindsight, how much better off would this country have been if we had executed Jeff Davis and his cabinet and most of the Confederate generals who betrayed their West Point oaths?

  220. 220.

    Kelly

    I’m rather cheered at the way statue destruction has branched out to Columbus, Leopold, that Bristol slave trader, etc. The front seem to be broadening while gaining force.

  223. 223.

    daryljfontaine

    @Fair Economist: Nah, we know gods (especially the Greek pantheon) are capricious and mischievous assholes who love to interfere in the lives of mortals and have a short attention span. Makes a lot more sense when you think of them as being hopped up on sugar-bomb whipped crap.

    D

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