Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Eh, that’s media spin. biden’s health is fine and he’s doing a good job.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

John Fetterman: Too Manly for Pennsylvania.  Paid for by the Oz for Senator campaign.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Americans barely caring about Afghanistan is so last month.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

After roe, women are no longer free.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

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  1. 1.

    Kent

    Medgar Evers is certainly a good candidate.

    Although I’d be inclined to honor one of the many black suffragettes like say Sojourner Truth who had to fight both racism and sexism in their campaign for universal suffrage.

  5. 5.

    Another Scott

    That’s James Baldwin reading the paper with Evers in the first picture.  Another giant of the times.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  6. 6.

    mrmoshpotato

    @dmsilev: Totally right.  Why are there American military bases named for men who committed treason against the United States of America?

  7. 7.

    Skepticat

    I remember that awful day, and despite the pain, thank you for reminding me of a great man.

  9. 9.

    MomSense

    Elections have consequences.  Now that my state is back to blue, everything works better.  Unemployment benefits have been working with speed and efficiency.  Voting is a breeze here.  We have early vote, motor voter, same day voter registration and vote by mail without condition.  Democrats want people to vote.  They believe in good governance as a value.  It’s really that simple.  Republicans are assholes.  They do not want everyone to vote and they do not want voting to be easy.  They lose when elections are free and fair.

    I think Medgar Evers would be a wonderful namesake for a vote by mail law – but I don’t see Moscow Mitch or the Apricot Asshole allowing it to happen before November.
    Republicans are anti democracy. One in office is too many.

    On other voting news, I’m not sure if the GA election was discussed here or not. I’m wondering what exactly Fair Fight did before the election.  I know they have registered a lot of voters, but did they not address the actual machines, ballots, polling places, etc before the election?

  11. 11.

    Patricia Kayden

    As a Tennessean, it makes me sick that there are monuments standing in our state that celebrate racist historical figures who did evil things. Edward Carmack and Nathan Bedford Forrest were DESPICABLE figures in our state history and should be treated as such.— Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) June 12, 2020

  12. 12.

    Roger Moore

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Why are there American military bases named for men who committed treason against the United States of America?

    PR. They were named at a time when people were worried about Southerners’ willingness to sign up for the Army.  Somebody had the idea of naming them after prominent Confederates to make them more acceptable.

  13. 13.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @dmsilev: I would send good hard ca$h toward running that VoteVets ad on DC’s Faux affiliate during prime Chickenshitler viewing hours.

  14. 14.

    dmsilev

    @Uncle Cosmo: I hope they’re planning on trying to do that. The Lincoln Project did exactly that with one of their ads, he saw it and had a meltdown, and the number of people who subsequently viewed the ad spiked into the millions.

  15. 15.

    Martin

    @dmsilev: Trumps own campaign is doing that too – running some of his ads only in DC to appease him when he sees them on TV.

  16. 16.

    hitchhiker

    Open thread, you say?

    Point of personal privilege, then, because for the next few weeks I’m honoring my daughter’s wishes that this family secret is kept close.

    BUT I CAN TELL YOU GUYS, RIGHT?

    She’s pregnant. She’s pregnant with twins. Next January, if all goes well and we’re all still here, I’m going to be a grandmother of twins.

    And now I’m gonna go somewhere and howl with unholy joy.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    @debbie:

    IMO, the goal is to erase the names of traitors, and I think that’s going to be a bitter enough pill for a lot of people to swallow.  Naming them for generals who laid waste to the area those bases are now built on is too big a swing in the opposite direction.  It would be more politic to name them for Southerners who fought with honor and distinction in the wars since the Civil War.  It would obviously be good to pick some people of color, but it would be hard to pick worse names than the ones they have now.

  23. 23.

    Gravenstone

    @MomSense: 

    I know they have registered a lot of voters, but did they not address the actual machines, ballots, polling places, etc before the election?

    I’m curious how what amounts to a group of private citizens can be expected to affect the responsibilities of the state government in terms of providing those items? It’s not like they could set up their own polling places, with their own machines and ballots.

  29. 29.

    MomSense

    @WaterGirl:

    They seemed to be very late to advise voters what to do.  Did they go to the courts to deal with some of the obvious problems in advance.  I guess I’ll look into it more, but this doesn’t seem like a good showing on their part.

  31. 31.

    scav

    @hitchhiker: Clear the decks! All hands on board! But do have twice the requisite — ahh, go for multiples of gratuitous — number of parties.

  32. 32.

    J R in WV

    @hitchhiker:

    We won’t tell anyone, no one at all, ever~!!!~ Your secret is safe with us.

    So glad for your happiness, as well, also too! Best wishes for your kids and soon to be grandkids. So swell for you! And January, that’s when Joe Biden gets inaugurated. So multiple parties for you all…

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    @MomSense: That’s how I felt until I heard her last night on Pod Save America.  I felt much better afterwards.

    I mean, it’s impossible to know ahead of time that they are going to give you machines that don’t fucking work.

    I’m kind of optimistic that this total fuckign disaster in Georgia this week will give them a leg to stand on in court – for preparations for November.

  37. 37.

    Delk

    Not sure if it was mentioned earlier, but today is the 4th anniversary of the Pulse Nightclub massacre. 49 people killed and 53 people wounded, mostly lgbt. The second most deadliest terrorist act after 9/11, the deadliest mass killing by a single person until Las Vegas, and the deadliest incident in the history of violence against LGBT.
    Of course  trump picked today to wipe out LGBT protections.

  40. 40.

    J R in WV

    @MomSense:

    June 12, 2020 at 7:12 pm

    @Gravenstone:

    It’s not a group of private citizens.  It is a very well funded, well publicized organization.

    Are you… wait. All well funded, well publicized organizations are in fact GROUPS OF PRIVATE CITIZENS~!!~ That’s the difference between political parties and the governments of all the states and the federal government. Everything is private citizens, except the FUCKING GOVERNMENT… Which in Georgia, like all the other states, actually runs elections.

    Private citizens, even in a well funded group, do not run elections. They can sue about how elections are actually run, and in GA that might not mean anything, but that’s about all they can do.

    The Secretary of State (in most states that’s the name of the election branch) runs elections, according to the laws of the state.

    Get real… are you really trying to hit Ms Abrams for the crimes of the GA SoS???  For Shame…

  43. 43.

    MomSense

    @J R in WV:

    Oh FFS.  They have raised a ton of money.  Lots of us have done volunteer voter protection with no funding. I’m not blaming her for what their governor and SoS did.  I’m talking about what their organization did or didn’t do to address it.  Why the fuck start a voter protection organization and then just wait to see what happens on Election Day especially when you know the administration wants to suppress the vote.

  44. 44.

    hitchhiker

    Some background so you know how big a day this is … both our daughters are over 30, and both have been dealing with infertility for some time. The older was born without ovaries, and has always known that she’d need to have an egg donor. The younger volunteered to be that donor about 2 years ago, only to discover that she had issues of her own (since resolved) and THEN to discover that her husband ALSO has issues.

    So now, older sister and her partner now have 4 blastocysts, genetically tested, frozen, and ready to go. She’s STILL got problems that may preclude carrying a pregnancy herself. She’s got a friend willing to be a carrier for her if it comes to that, but she’s a very stubborn human being, it turns out.

    And younger sister went through a first unsuccessful round of IUI in Feb, just before the shutdowns, and then another round in May after things opened up a tiny bit here in WA. That second attempt worked, and today was the day she went (alone, b/c of protocols) to have the ultrasound that would show her if there was a healthy fetus or not.

    There were two.

    So, yeah, it’s a day, and if you need something to smile about, feel free!

    BTW, we live in downtown Seattle about half a mile from the infamous CHAZ .. when I took the doggo out an hour ago we strolled over there. It was about as I expected. Mostly earnest young white people, properly masked but not social distancing, engaging in what’s probably their first big justice event. Aside from the University of WA a couple of miles north, there’s also Seattle Community College a couple of blocks away and Seattle University (Jesuit school like Georgetown or Gonzaga) just up the street. This neighborhood is crawling with young single people — exactly the sort of place where an occupy-style event could happen.

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    @debbie: 
    +2! (Think that makes four congratulations in sum.)
    Very excited for you. We know two young ladies, both of whom babysat our kid back in the day, who gave birth to their first babies in April and May. It went smoothly and everybody is healthy and well.

  48. 48.

    J R in WV

    @MomSense:

    Why the fuck start a voter protection organization and then just wait to see what happens on Election Day especially when you know the administration wants to suppress the vote.

    How about because a Democratic Primary isn’t the same as a general election? How about they want to save their money and effort to make sure the General Election is fair and square compared to a primary in which everyone running is a Democrat!?!?

    How ’bout because I’m sensitive to attacks on Democrats during this crisis in our national politics! Get real, this is no time to attack Democratic organizations!

  51. 51.

    Kent

    @Roger Moore:PR. They were named at a time when people were worried about Southerners’ willingness to sign up for the Army.  Somebody had the idea of naming them after prominent Confederates to make them more acceptable.

    Also had to do with getting southern communities to support giving up land to build the bases in the first place.  Naming the after racist confederates was an easy way to do that.

  52. 52.

    gwangung

    @J R in WV: I’m a little curious, though…how much can a private group fight this chicanery before the fact? Particularly when the government is actually malevolent, and would probably have no problem lying…

  55. 55.

    Yutsano

    @gwangung:  Get people to assist with challenges on ballots at polling stations. Get lawyers together for possible legal challenges. Advise those who are being questioned about how to respond. There’s quite a bit that can be done.

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    @Yutsano:

    Those are valid suggestions, but they don’t help with the state providing non-functional voting machines and insufficient paper ballots as backups.  IIRC, they were able to sue to force the lines at the polls to stay open longer than originally planned.

  57. 57.

    JAFD

    Prospective congratulations to Ms. Hitchhiker, prayers that the pregnancy goes well, best wishes for babies and parents.  Story of conception would have been science fiction when I was young.  Can remember news that second ‘test-tube baby’ had been born, wag said that Louise Brown was no longer ‘in a glass by herself’

    Meanwhile, Monday the 15th is registration deadline for New Jersey primary, and you can get your “Welcome to New Jersey – Don’t Be A Knucklehead” T-shirts at

    https://nj-dems-store.myshopify.com/?emci=b64217f5-f3ab-ea11-9b05-00155d039e74&emdi=94ceecd6-1aac-ea11-9b05-00155d039e74&ceid=3045421

    (apologys for repeating myself, catching bottom of a couple of threads.)

    Hope everyone’s staying healthy, happy and hydrated !  Have a great weekend, keep washing your hands.

  61. 61.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @hitchhiker:

    That is joyous news! I’m actually grinning. Congratulations to you and the parents-to-be and everyone else in the family.

  62. 62.

    Brachiator

    @Another Scott:

    That’s James Baldwin reading the paper with Evers in the first picture.  Another giant of the times.

    The documentary, “I Am Not Your Negro,” in which Baldwin talks about Evers and other Civil Rights leaders, is worth a watch.  May be available on various streaming services.

  63. 63.

    gwangung

    @Roger Moore: That’s what I was thinking….there are certain things a private group simply cannot combat in advance (like non working and too few machines, and misprinted ballots and sabotaged envelopes). I believe a malevolent government can swamp even the best prepared private group

  64. 64.

    Aleta

    A description of the 40 people whose names are inscribed on the Civil Rights Memorial

    who lost their lives in the struggle for freedom during the modern Civil Rights Movement – 1954 to 1968. The martyrs include activists who were targeted for death because of their civil rights work; random victims of vigilantes determined to halt the movement; and individuals who, in the sacrifice of their own lives, brought new awareness to the struggle.

     

     Created by Vietnam Veterans Memorial designer Maya Lin, the Memorial is located across the street from the Southern Poverty Law Center’s office building in Montgomery, Alabama, a city rich with civil rights history.

    A circular black granite table records the names of the martyrs and chronicles the history of the movement in lines that radiate like the hands of a clock. Water emerges from the table’s center and flows evenly across the top. On a curved black granite wall behind the table is engraved Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s well-known paraphrase of Amos 5:24 – We will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.

    Like the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the Civil Rights Memorial invites visitors to touch the engraved names. As Lin envisioned, the Memorial plaza is “a contemplative area — a place to remember the Civil Rights Movement, to honor those killed during the struggle, to appreciate how far the country has come in its quest for equality, and to consider how far it has to go.”

    The Memorial is just around the corner from the church where Dr. King served as pastor during the Montgomery Bus Boycott in 1955-1956, and the Alabama Capitol steps where the Selma-to-Montgomery voting rights march ended in 1965. The Memorial is located on an open plaza accessible to visitors 24 hours a day, every day of the week.

  65. 65.

    Gravenstone

    @MomSense: With zero legislative power. Seeking judicial action is about all they have and if the state chooses to slow walk, or outright ignore judgments, well what is the next recourse?

  66. 66.

    CaseyL

    @hitchhiker: Yee-hah!  Congratulations x 2!  Best wishes for an easy pregnancy (as easy as it can be, carrying two) and delivery of two magnificently healthy grandbabies.

  68. 68.

    Jinchi

    @WaterGirl: I’m kind of optimistic that this total fuckign disaster in Georgia this week will give them a leg to stand on in court – for preparations for November.

    It looks like the Georgia primary was a blowout success for Democrats, despite all the problems.

    “it appears that there was a big increase in turnout over 2018, especially on the Democratic side,” Abramowitz said. “And over 900,000 votes cast in the Democratic Senate primary blows the 310,000 votes cast in the 2016 Democratic Senate primary out of the water.”

  69. 69.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    WaPo: Court appears reluctant to order judge to immediately drop criminal case against Michael Flynn

    But Judges Karen Henderson and Robert Wilkins of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit seemed skeptical of Flynn’s argument that Sullivan cannot review the Justice Department’s abandonment last month of the long-running prosecution. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his pre-inauguration contacts with Russia’s ambassador.

    “Courts have said he’s not a ‘mere rubber stamp,’ ” Henderson said of Sullivan’s independent judicial authority. “There’s nothing wrong with him holding a hearing; there’s no authority I know of that says he can’t hold a hearing.”

    Wilkins agreed, citing past cases in which the Supreme Court upheld the power of judges “to perform an independent evaluation” of the government’s action.

    “You’re saying the Supreme Court got it wrong?” he asked Flynn’s lawyer Sidney Powell.

    “No,” Powell said, but in this case, Flynn and the Justice Department are on the same side.

    “The government has quit, and it’s time to leave the field,” Powell said, adding that “the toll it takes on a defendant to go through this is absolutely enormous.”
    […]

    The third judge on the panel, Neomi Rao, is a nominee of President Trump who previously worked in his administration.

    Rao had the most questions for Sullivan’s lawyer and expressed concern about the judiciary encroaching on the role of the prosecutor. She asked Wilkinson whether Sullivan’s appointment of Gleeson was “creating a controversy where there isn’t one.”
    […]

    In the Flynn case, he said, the government fully explained its rationale for wanting to end the prosecution. Wall urged the court to block Sullivan’s review and said allowing a July hearing to go forward will create a “political spectacle.” He argued it would pull the judiciary into a fight over Gleeson’s “almost polemic” claims that “the president and the attorney general have engaged in grave misconduct,” and subject the Justice Department to intrusive questions.

    “It’s not up to courts to probe whether the government has pure or impure motives. That’s up to the political and public arena,” Wall said.

    Isn’t that convenient for them? The GOP tries to rig the “political and public arena” all the fucking time to get the results they want. Oh, but I guess Wall would say I’m being “polemical” and shrill, I guess.

    Prosecutors have broad authority to make charging decisions, but federal rules also require prosecutors to get permission from the presiding judge to formally dismiss charges. Legal experts and retired judges disagree about the scope of Sullivan’s authority, offering different interpretations of a 2016 D.C. Circuit opinion that noted the judiciary generally lacks authority to “second-guess” charging decisions.

    This is why I’m worried that, just by agreeing to hear Flynn’s argument, that the DC appeals court will rubber stamp this

  75. 75.

    rk

    I had really no idea what Juneteenth was. I had heard about the Tulsa riots, black wall street, but no idea about the details or all that happened. Thanks to Trump, now I know. Talked about it with my kids (my kids are completely BLM supporters). So because of Trump we got to further examine the racist history of this country and discuss it. It’s amazing to me how every instinct that Trump has is wrong. Thank you Trump for holding a rally in Tulsa so the entire nation can now be informed about the massacre. What a moron!

  76. 76.

    schrodingers_cat

    @MomSense: Their leader was busy auditioning for the VP spot and being photographed like Jesus in Washington Post.

    What are your thoughts on all the blue checks and liberal blogs promoting Warren for VP?

  77. 77.

    Aleta

    May 7, 1955 · Belzoni, Mississippi
    Rev. George Lee, one of the first black people registered to vote in Humphreys County, used his pulpit and his printing press to urge others to vote. White officials offered Lee protection on the condition he end his voter registration efforts, but Lee refused and was murdered.

  79. 79.

    Mary G

    @hitchhiker: So glad to hear this. Congratulations. We need to leave them a better world.

    Mike Pompeo has been very snotty about cooperating with Congressional oversight, and Rep. Eliot Engel fired back:

    19/Eliot Engel has responded to Mike Pompeo and the final two paragraphs are …memorable: https://t.co/EuKcNvinhb— Nahal Toosi (@nahaltoosi) June 12, 2020

    “The men and women of the State
    Department, like the American people, expect more from our leaders. I hope you bear in mind the gravity of your position and the example you set during your upcoming final few months in
    office.”

    Zing! Moar like this, please.

  80. 80.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Mary G: He is being primaried, his opponent was endorsed by the one true socialist and his heir apparent, AOC.

    And the guy the endorsed against Amy McGrath is slinging mud on her for not being pure enough for the DSA Roses.

  84. 84.

    lamh36

    @hitchhiker: CONGRATULATIONS!

    As a “twinning” family I can tell ya it’s fantastic!

    Twins run in my family, I have 3 sets of twin aunts and uncles (2 boy/girl twins, 1 boy/boy set) and my sisters right after me are twins!

  85. 85.

    Amir Khalid

    @schrodingers_cat:

    You seem to have already made up your mind about Elizabeth Warren. I think most jackals find her well-qualified to be VP, but there is concern about her age; and some think she might serve a Biden administration better in the cabinet, or if she stays in the Senate.

  86. 86.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Amir Khalid: I think she is well qualified she is just not my choice. Yes and I do know how popular her candidacy was on Balloon Juice both among FPers and commenters. I did a little Twitter poll which she won easily. She won the BJ primary handily.

  87. 87.

    Miss Bianca

    @Amir Khalid: I’m one of them. I am unsympathetic to any VP choice that potentially loses us a seat in the Senate.

    (so yeah, I’d be fine with Kamala H. Not worried about losing California).

  91. 91.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl:

    @Delk: Nope.  Timings, cities, dates – never an accident.

    They wake up asking themselves, “What’s the most hateful thing we can do today?”

    To hell with all of these shitstains.

  93. 93.

    Aleta

    At age 50, Herbert Lee was a small, graying man who had worked hard to build his Mississippi cotton farm and dairy into a business that would support his wife and their nine children. He had little formal education and could barely read. His wife taught him how to sign his name after they were married.

    Lee was a quiet man. Even those who knew him well do not recall hearing him talk about civil rights. But his actions spoke: He attended NAACP meetings at a neighboring farm without fail, even when threats and harassment kept many others away.

    Lee’s perseverance was one thing that made him valuable to the civil rights movement. Another was his automobile: He was one of the few local African Americans with a car of his own. When Bob Moses of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee came to Mississippi in 1961 to register black voters, Lee was his constant companion.

    Lee spent hours driving Moses and the local NAACP president from farm to farm so they could talk about voting. In all of Amite County, there was only one black person registered to vote, and that person had never actually voted.

    On the morning of Sept. 25, 1961, Lee pulled up to a cotton gin outside Liberty with a truckload of cotton. Several people watched as Mississippi state Rep. E.H. Hurst approached Lee and began to shout. Lee got out of the truck, and Hurst ran around in front of the vehicle. Hurst then took a gun out of his shirt and shot Lee in the head. The legislator claimed self-defense and was never arrested.

    Louis Allen, a black farmer and timber worker who had seen the shooting, was later gunned down in his driveway on Jan. 31, 1964 – the day before he was to move to the North. No one was arrested for his murder.

  96. 96.

    Amir Khalid

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I don’t care about your nonconformity to the Balloon Juice norm about Warren or anything else. I just don’t understand why you dislike her.

  97. 97.

    zhena gogolia

    @Amir Khalid:

    Sir, I speak S-C.

    I think it’s a bit of a backlash to the wall-to-wall Warren posts that were here throughout the primary season. It didn’t bother me, but it was a bit much for anyone supporting one of the other candidates. And yes, I know that was a while ago, but the VP talk feels like an unwelcome coda.

  98. 98.

    Another Scott

    @Amir Khalid:

    Relatedly, she has other admirers…

    Harris buys you nothing. Harris buys you nothing. Harris buys you nothing. Harris buys you nothing.

    — Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) June 12, 2020

    Not sure I agree, but neither one of them are a slam dunk (even though they both have compelling stories and are great talents).

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  102. 102.

    Mohagan

    @Roger Moore: You make good, reasonable.points, but I’m with Debbie. Fort Sherman and Fort Grant. Fu*kem if they can’t take a joke. We have spent entirely too long trying to spare the feelings of racists.

  104. 104.

    Another Scott

    @Miss Bianca:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/10/8/9464035/dick-nixon-first-person

    Dad doesn’t read or follow the news anymore. He’s shutting down.

    I want to get a rise out of him.

    Dad, do you know what Twitter is?

    Pretty much.

    I have an account.

    Okay.

    People seem to like it.

    Great.

    It’s Richard Nixon.

    (Silence.)

    Dad forgave the Phillies’ Mitch Williams for giving up the losing home run in the 1993 World Series, and accepted it when I shaved my head in eighth grade.

    But he hated Richard Nixon.

    I write in Nixon’s voice. I respond to current events as though he’s still alive.

    I show him my phone and get the same look I got when I listened to the Sex Pistols as a kid.

    I love you, but you’re nuts.

    Hehe.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  107. 107.

    Geminid

    I am looking forward to seeing Elizabeth Warren’s work as a Senator the next few years. She and her staff can draft good legislation. The plan for clean energy and conservation  investment that she put out for the primaries was excellent and detailed, and would be a good template for legislation in the next Congress. And she is a very good advocate for her issues.                                                                  I voted for Warren in the Virginia primary, but I did not mind that Biden won. I like him. But I still think Warren should have made her smart, judicious climate change proposal her signature  issue, and talked about windmills instead of wine caves. The corruption issue is important, but it is negative; clean power and green jobs are positive, Warren is best when she does positive.

  108. 108.

    Amir Khalid

    @schrodingers_cat:

    You persist in questioning Warren’s popularity among jackals, even now when it doesn’t matter any more. You express unease with her policy positions even after Biden has begun adopting them for his own campaign. I don’t question your right to say what you think about anyone, but are you sure you don’t dislike Warren?

  109. 109.

    Ascap_scab

    I’m all for renaming Fort Bragg (home of Airborne and Special Ops) for Pat Tillman, U.S. Army Airborne.

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