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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / GOP Stupidity Open Thread: Dream City for Trump

GOP Stupidity Open Thread: Dream City for Trump

by Anne Laurie|  June 24, 20208:10 pm| 176 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, Biden For President, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Trumpery

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Okay, serious question for Arizonans…

I’m watching the parade of clips from unbearably stupid kids at Trump’s Phoenix event.

How representative are they of the Arizona student pop?

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) June 24, 2020

In my estimation, as a semi-major young adult author who spends much time with teens around the country, not representative at all. The vast majority of young people give a shit about their future. The brainwashed sect is half actually brainwashed, half looking for attention.

— Ellen Hopkins (@EllenHopkinsLit) June 24, 2020

The Squatter-in-Chief wanted some balm for his chafed ego after the Tulsa ‘No REALLY?’ Rally, so his loyalest supporters found him a safe space at a rented megachurch in deepest Denialvania, and stocked it with prime specimens of the Next GOP Generation. The kids were pumped, and primed, and pampered. And they were dumb. Boy howdy, were they dumb. Proudly, deliberately dumb. Aunt-Jemima-was-a-real-person-who-is-being-cancelled dumb. Having a semi-famous dad makes me inherently better dumb. The clips I saw made it look like a livestock parade, or a canine conformation show: Glossy specimens bred over generations for maximum appeal to a very particular standard, raised on a rigorous routine of diet, exercise, and training.

It must be a certain consolation to all the not-Repub kids suffering these morons every day that these Prime Specimens are gonna be very little competition in any circumstance where Do you know who my dad is? doesn’t… trump. Times ain’t now buddy like they used to be… and the utility of being an upper-middle-class inheritor of a local car dealership or a five-store restaurant chain is unlikely to remain a lifelong sinecure. (Of course, the brightest of these Repub dim bulbs always have the fallback of stealing from their elders… )

NEW: For a day in Arizona, President Trump got exactly what he wanted: a chance to show off his border wall and a packed crowd cheering him on.

But fears of the virus, surging in the battleground state, shadowed the president on this sweltering day https://t.co/aExaiACHrH

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) June 24, 2020


It wasn’t quite one of his signature big-stadium rallies.

But President Donald Trump drew something closer to the jam-packed audience of political supporters he’s been craving as hundreds of young conservatives filled a Phoenix megachurch Tuesday to hear his call for them to get behind his reelection effort.

The crowded Dream City Church for the gathering of Students for Trump offered a starkly different feel compared to Trump’s weekend rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, his first of the coronavirus era, which drew sparser attendance…

With the Phoenix event, which was organized by Turning Point Action, a group chaired by Trump ally Charlie Kirk, the president hoped to turn attention — at least momentarily — away from his slumping poll numbers, surging coronavirus infections in huge swaths of the South and West, and a virus-ravaged economy.

His address was chock-full of typical Trump lines — boasts about television ratings, ridicule of his likely Democratic presidential opponent Joe Biden and sharply worded resentments over China’s handling of the coronavirus crisis. As he did in Oklahoma over the weekend, Trump referred to the virus as “kung flu,” a pejorative term that Asian-Americans say is racist…

But throughout his daylong trip to Arizona, which included a visit to the U.S.-Mexico border, the COVID-19 pandemic shadowed Trump.

The Democratic mayor of Phoenix made clear she did not believe Trump’s speech could be safely held in her city — and urged the president to wear a face mask.

But Trump has adamantly refused to wear a mask in public, instead turning it into a red-vs.-blue cultural issue. Polling suggests Republicans are far less likely to wear face coverings than Democrats despite health experts’ warnings that it dramatically reduces the risk of transmitting the virus. Few in the crowd at the Students for Trump event donned masks.

Since late May, Arizona has emerged as one of the nation’s most active hot spots for the spread of COVID-19…

Campaign officials stressed that rallies would remain a staple of the president’s reelection strategy but allowed that they may, in certain states, need to change slightly. Discussions were under way about having them in more modest venues or outdoors, perhaps in airplane hangars and amphitheaters, or in smaller cities away from likely protesters…

Gotta bug the Oval Office Occupant that one-hit novelty acts like his typically don’t fill arenas on their farewell tour.

The scene of President Trump’s appearance at a Phoenix mega-church.

No social distancing. And the only masks I am seeing are being worn by the White House travel pool pic.twitter.com/WYBRjAiDJp

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) June 23, 2020

Arizona ER doctor:

On the WORST day of the pandemic in #Arizona with 58,179 cases and single-day records of ??3,593 new cases and ??42 new deaths, these unmasked #Trump supporters at Dream City Church, Phoenix Arizona are breathing #COVID in and out. pic.twitter.com/EI1Oy4gUiZ

— ????Cleavon Gilman, MD?? (@Cleavon_MD) June 23, 2020

.@PhoenixPolice Spox Sgt. Ann Justus:

“The Phoenix PD will continue to lead with education. We will remind everyone at the event, including officers, the importance of the Mayor’s order in helping stop the spread. Please remind your viewers of the importance of #maskupAZ.” https://t.co/rS8jMIKmwj

— Vaughn Hillyard (@VaughnHillyard) June 23, 2020

Let’s keep an eye on the statistics, see how much ‘leading with education’ spikes ER admissions and distributed infections over the next 21 days.

With his body writhing, Trump’s electric shock slurring happens. His involuntary movements are out of control here- torso, arms & head. His degenerative neurological disease- Frontotemporal dementia combined w/ abuse of drugs like Levodopa has created a neurological nightmare https://t.co/dpgYgSGO6v

— Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) June 24, 2020

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176Comments

  1. 1.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2020 at 8:14 pm

    Arizona ‘s ICU’s are approaching full capacity quite rapidly.??

  2. 2.

    WaterGirl

    June 24, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    @rikyrah: It didn’t have to be that way.

  3. 3.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 24, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    @rikyrah: Good thing that the consulates are canceling previously scheduled visa interviews with doctors in the light of the Orange One’s EO.

  4. 4.

    Freemark

    June 24, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    Considering the spread of COVID among that age range right now, and the fact this particular group would consider masks and social distancing anathema, I wouldn’t be surprised if 1000 cases come out of this event.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    Having a semi-famous dad makes me inherently better dumb.

    Meghan McCain?

  6. 6.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    Manu Raju @mkraju
    A shift from House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler: After saying Sunday impeaching AG Bill Barr is a “waste of time,” he says his committee “may very well” pursue Barr’s impeachment. “We’re looking into that, we may very well,” per @jeremyherb

    I’d be very happy if Barr went down as the only AG ever impeached, even if McConnell refused to take it up in the Senate. Leaving him hanging might even be the preferable outcome to acquittal.

  7. 7.

    sanjeevs

    June 24, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    I don’t think the Aunt Jemima brat was dumb. Her profile says she’s an ‘ambassador’ for Turning Point USA.

    So she’s a micro-influencer on social media. She likely gets paid based on social media engagement. So she went with the take likeliest to get her clicks and shares.

    She’s a grifter.

  8. 8.

    Yutsano

    June 24, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: And we hammer him for refusing to take up his impeachment. It would take the thing we suck at which is message discipline but I think we can all agree that this obstruction gotta stop. It probably won’t be enough to make him lose but until we try we’ll never know.

  9. 9.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: We don’t need no stinking doctors, I have this magic orange rock.

  10. 10.

    Brachiator

    June 24, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Arizona ‘s ICU’s are approaching full capacity quite rapidly

    How can this be? Trump assures us that the virus is either a hoax or will disappear if you do not test for it. Or squirt that virus with bleach or sunlight.

    It astounds me that Trump’s base is willing to die for him. Or kill their grandparents.

  11. 11.

    piratedan

    June 24, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    Well… not all of AZ is a mirror of the heartfelt desires of Mr Kirk and while there are a goodly number that are sympathetic… we did elect Sinema and Kelly is kicking McSally’s patootie.  Plus we’re turning over congressional districts yet the state lege is gerrymandered to a fare the well.  Things are changing here… steadily.

  12. 12.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    June 24, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    *HOUSTON ON PACE TO EXCEED INTENSIVE-CARE CAPACITY BY TOMORROW
    — Emma Kinery (@EmmaKinery) June 24, 2020

    Who could have known

  13. 13.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    @Brachiator: Everyone knows the virus will go away when it gets warm…

    (checks temp in Phoenix)

    …guess 109 isn’t warm enough.

  14. 14.

    Ohio Mom

    June 24, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    schrodingers_cat: I have an off-topic favor to ask. My niece’s husband, Nimish, just received his citizenship. Can you type up something in Hindi I can cut and paste into a congratulations email?

    He applied right after Trump was elected. I hadn’t heard anything so I assumed he was in limbo. The email my sister just sent out was a very happy surprise.

  15. 15.

    Roger Moore

    June 24, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    We don’t need no stinking doctors, I have this magic orange rock.

    I think somebody crushed it to use as makeup.

  16. 16.

    Bex

    June 24, 2020 at 8:48 pm

    @sanjeevs: The Aunt Jemima brat said that statues of Jesus are being torn down.  Trump repeated this today.  I unfortunately saw some of the speech last night and could have sworn Trump said something along the lines of “tomorrow belongs to us.”  Couldn’t find the quote today, but assuming I heard right, they’re just not hiding it anymore are they?

  17. 17.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    I think somebody crushed it to use as makeup.

    Oh Crap!

  18. 18.

    J R in WV

    June 24, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    That’s great news, wish I could help with the Hindi congrats message. Best of luck to your niece and her family!!!

  19. 19.

    germy

    June 24, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    Don’t forget:

    "The co-founder of Students for Trump pleaded guilty Tuesday to scamming consumers and businesses out of $46,000 by posing as a lawyer online and dispensing legal advice, federal prosecutors said."https://t.co/ABLG5wdAtk

    — Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) June 24, 2020

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    June 24, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    He’s not deteriorating fast enough for my taste, but this is great…great to see him twitching and slurring and sweating.

    It’s not a hundredth of what he deserves.  Not a thousandth.

    As for the House and Barr, I hope they impeach him and drag the whole thing out across the rest of the summer.  Remind the country what the stakes are here: you can have the rule of law, or you can have trumpov and Barr.  You can have a democracy, or a pathetic banana republic.  Keep pulling the curtain back and showing every last possible voter exactly what this Keystone Krime Syndicate is all about.

  21. 21.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 24, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    @Ohio Mom: बधाई हो निमीश (Congratulations Nimish!)

  22. 22.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 24, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    Orange Concealer is melting in the heat.

  23. 23.

    patrick II

    June 24, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    Those young people were encouraged to sit maskless and shoulder to shoulder.  Yet when two students were brought onto the stage because they were the head of the Republican youth organization that sponsored the rally they were kept standing twenty feet away from the president.

    There is just a murderous cynicism about that.  No, kids, it’s alright, you don’t need a mask or social distancing. You won’t get sick and die, trust me.  Trump shows he knows better and keeps himself far away.

  24. 24.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    June 24, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    Former Vice President Joe Biden has widened his lead over President Donald Trump in Wisconsin and narrowly leads the president in Ohio, according to a pair of polls out Wednesday from two key swing states in the Midwest.

    In Wisconsin, where Trump eked out a narrow victory in 2016 to flip the state from blue to red, Marquette University Law School poll found the former vice president up 8 percentage points over Trump, with 49 percent support to Trump’s 41 percent.

    In Ohio, a state Trump carried by 8 points in 2016 and which has voted for the eventual presidential winner for half a century, a new poll from Quinnipiac University found 46 of respondents favor Biden, compared to 45 percent who favor the president.

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    @Jeffro

    Only the best bananas!

    //

  26. 26.

    hueyplong

    June 24, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: One of the yutes who spoke (idiotically) is the son of the asshole who wrote the bathroom law in NC.

    That’s some low-grade celebrity.

  27. 27.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    June 24, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    @germy: His next grift job will be as Dean of Trump University

  28. 28.

    germy

    June 24, 2020 at 8:56 pm

    His next job will be as Dean of Bovine University.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    @hueyplong

    son of the asshole who wrote the bathroom law in NC.

    “If I’d known you were coming I’d have baked a urinal cake.”

    :)

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    Brian Stelter @brianstelter
    “MSNBC is expected to tap political analyst Joy Reid to anchor a 7 p.m. daily news and opinion program, people familiar with the matter said, filling the vacancy created at the cable news channel when Chris Matthews resigned abruptly,” @JBFlint reports

  31. 31.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    That would be one of the best upgrades in TV news history.

  32. 32.

    frosty

    June 24, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: This really is a full service blog!

  33. 33.

    Ohio Mom

    June 24, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    Schrodingers_cat: many thanks!

    and thanks for the good wishes JR in WV!

  34. 34.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    Fill out your Florida Woman bingo card all at once:

    This angry Florida woman argued today against the mask mandate, while bringing up the devil, 5G, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, “the pedophiles” and the deep state.

    Enjoy… pic.twitter.com/yqKUZNQYLQ
    — Rex Chapman?? (@RexChapman) June 24, 2020

  35. 35.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @frosty: Then what doesn’t it deliver cheesecake?

  36. 36.

    Jeffro

    June 24, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I’m going to go plug that into the “270 to Win” EV calculator, just before I go to bed tonight.

    Ahhhhhh….zzzzzzz….. ;

    ETA: I couldn’t wait…it puts Biden 2020 a dozen EVs ahead of Obama 2008(!)   =

    ETA2: oh wait…I didn’t reset it from last time…carry the 2…refibrulate the denominator…put Texas back in the red column…my bad.  But it’s CLOSE to Obama 2008!

  37. 37.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    कनाडाई बनने में बहुत देर नहीं हुई है।

  38. 38.

    germy

    June 24, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @dmsilev:

    “Everything will be fine after all the old boomers die out.”

    /

  39. 39.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 24, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    Kamala Harris impresses more every day I can’t see Biden choosing anyone else — or the party accepting it — because Harris could be in an impact position in 2024.

    @Ohio Mom:

    Congrats, pass along some heart well wishes.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    @dmsilev

    Tinfoil hat trick.

    ;)

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    June 24, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    SO:  Devin Nunes’ cow: 1   Devin Nunes 0

    WaPost: Devin Nunes cannot sue Twitter over fake cow parody account, judge rules

    A Virginia judge dismissed a defamation lawsuit brought by Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) in 2018 over statements made by a Republican strategist and two parody accounts, one pretending to be a cow and the other his mother.

    … Nunes was seeking $250 million in damages, claiming the parody accounts that taunted him and attacks from GOP strategist, Liz Mair, almost cost him his reelection.

    When Nunes sued “Devin Nunes’ Cow” in March 2019, the account had 1,000 followers. But the news that Nunes was suing a fake cow made the account go viral. Today it has over 725,000 followers.

    Nunes claimed in his lawsuit that derogatory comments made about him by the cow, “Devin Nunes Mom” and Mair had slandered his character. He also accused Twitter of negligence for not removing the misinformation such as calling him a “treasonous cowpoke” or that “Nunes was ‘voted ‘Most Likely to Commit Treason’ in high school.”

    The creators of the two parody accounts are anonymous, and Twitter will not reveal who is behind them …

    Nunes is litigious, having sued many news organizations, including The Washington Post, and others for making critical statements about him.

    The fake cow reacted to the judge’s decision with a picture of milk spewed at Nunes’ face.

  42. 42.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 24, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    A tweet points this out:

    ….there is also a large amount of surge ICU capacity that Emma seems to be taking great pains to avoid mentioning

    and links to the Texas Medical Center’s Total ICU Bed Occupancy for the Greater Houston Are

    I’d worry more about Arizona than Texas, tbh

  43. 43.

    geg6

    June 24, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    This is wonderful news.

  44. 44.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    Quoting a single number, as in “Candidate A leads nationally by X% of voters” is meaningless. It would be nice if media who insist on reporting the horse race would state it in terms of how many states each candidate is leading in, and by how many presumed electoral college votes. I know all of that won’t fit in a headline, but at least it gives a better picture of each candidate’s real position.

  45. 45.

    germy

    June 24, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    The party of tort reform.

  46. 46.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Elizabelle: To shamelessly steal from someone on Twitter: FAKE MOOS!

  47. 47.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Baud: I’ll say this for Tweety: He went quietly, and has stayed quiet. A bit surprised there hasn’t been some attempt to turn him into a wise elder statesman on Morning Joe, at the very least. I wonder if his family didn’t tell him it was time to give up the Tee-Vee.

  48. 48.

    Ohio Mom

    June 24, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    Thanks Baud!

  49. 49.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 24, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Good. He had to have known this was a frivolous lawsuit. He’s a public figure

  50. 50.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    That’s good to hear. Maybe he’s decided the best thing for him is to cash out on the speaking circuit.

  51. 51.

    geg6

    June 24, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    OMG, I’m in tears here. ?

  52. 52.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @dmsilev: There is a woman up the street just like that. She has all these weird signs in her yard and she was tacking stuff up on phone poles for a while. This is dead in the middle of the bluest area of Athens.

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Oh, for fucks’ sake:

    Trump is headlining fireworks at Mount Rushmore. Experts worry two things could spread: virus and wildfire.

    President Trump is planning a massive fireworks display at Mount Rushmore on July 3, despite a decade-long ban on pyrotechnics at the iconic spot because of concerns about public health, environmental and safety risks.

    Trump has wanted to stage fireworks at the national memorial in South Dakota’s Black Hills since 2018, according to two individuals familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. But the idea was scuttled or delayed by a number of his advisers, these individuals said.

    The National Park Service stopped staging pyrotechnics at Mount Rushmore in 2010 out of concern that it could ignite wildfires under drought conditions. The memorial is surrounded by 1,200 acres of forested lands, including ponderosa pines, and lies next to the Black Hills National Forest’s Black Elk Wilderness.

    Edit:

    “My job was to put out the fires,” said Gabbert, who worked in the area for three years, ending in 2001. “Internally in our discussions I recommended that people not shoot fireworks over flammable vegetation.”

  54. 54.

    Ksmiami

    June 24, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @WaterGirl: The GOP is an existential threat to the USA. Start treating it like that. I’m writing letters to every editor I can.

  55. 55.

    geg6

    June 24, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I think he now has a podcast.

  56. 56.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I will have to laugh if he brings down Mt. Rushmore himself.

  57. 57.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @raven: OT:  For Fathers Day, I got my dad the “Bull Cook” book that you bring up every once in a while.  He seems entertained by it.

  58. 58.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, I had to get my own at Costco, stupid blog.

  59. 59.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 24, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @Baud: Did he become Canadian? Because that’s what you are congratulating him for!

  60. 60.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @Baud: I’m pretty sure he’s perpetually miffed that his profile isn’t up there as well.

  61. 61.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 24, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Do a lot of people live near Mt. Rushmore? If his little fireworks display causes a massive fire, a lot of people might die.

    I fucking hate this asshole. None of the networks (aside from Fox and OANN, of course), including PBS, better carry this.

  62. 62.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Google translate may have failed me.

  63. 63.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

     a lot of people might die.

    A rounding error for Trump at this point.

  64. 64.

    John Revolta

    June 24, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Dayum. A finer pack of TrumpfJugend I ain’t never seen.

  65. 65.

    Brachiator

    June 24, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Quoting a single number, as in “Candidate A leads nationally by X% of voters” is meaningless. It would be nice if media who insist on reporting the horse race would state it in terms of how many states each candidate is leading in, and by how many presumed electoral college votes.

    More detailed state polls are expensive. The campaigns may be doing this, but the results are probably preliminary and not worth revealing to the public. And of course the Republicans are not going to release bad news.

    But the news media loves to publish this stuff because it is traditional, even though it doesn’t really mean anything.

    And of course people will talk about the numbers and give them far more attention than they deserve because that’s what people do.

  66. 66.

    mousebumples

    June 24, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Quoting a single number, as in “Candidate A leads nationally by X% of voters” is meaningless. It would be nice if media who insist on reporting the horse race would state it in terms of how many states each candidate is leading in, and by how many presumed electoral college votes. I know all of that won’t fit in a headline, but at least it gives a better picture of each candidate’s real position.

    I believe his post was about new polls in those swing states that were published today.  (At least, I know the Marquette/Wisconsin poll came out this afternoon.)  And, frankly, since the election is months away, even knowing the “real position” in all/multiple states right now is mostly pointless since things can possible change a bunch between now and November.

    But I know seeing the Wisconsin poll gave me a little extra spring in my step today.

  67. 67.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): He was suing for 250 million over the possibility of losing a job that pays 174k, sure that seems fair.

  68. 68.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Cool!

  69. 69.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    Public service announcement Da 5Blood is really bad and I love Clark Peters and Spike.

  70. 70.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 24, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    More bad apples (aka racist cops).

    Never in my life did I think I’d write this vile of a headline, but sometimes sugarcoating things does no good. So, here we are. Read the full story: https://t.co/4vOArIOwvN#portcitydaily #Wilmington #nc #wilmingtonnc pic.twitter.com/2kXgNSTaTn— Michael Praats (@michael_praats) June 24, 2020

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @dmsilev

    Sunset in South Dakota in early july is like 9 p.m.

    Which is 11 at night on the east coast, so can pretty much write off any audience in that time zone.

  72. 72.

    Brachiator

    June 24, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @Baud:

    I will have to laugh if he brings down Mt. Rushmore himself.

    Don’t laugh. If Trump destroys it, he will have it rebuilt, and every head will be his.

    He will have it spray painted orange and renamed Mount Trumpmore.

  73. 73.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): The biggest population center near Rushmore is Rapid City, there’s not many folk living that close.  It’s been 45 years since I visited, there weren’t even small towns within 10 miles or so.

  74. 74.

    hueyplong

    June 24, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Pretty sure Phillip Vandamm had a house near Mt Rushmore in about 1959, but not sure who lives there now.

  75. 75.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Ignore the polls.

    Register to vote: https://t.co/Hy8C4mIL2M https://t.co/RmXpvXJX0P
    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 24, 2020

  76. 76.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    June 24, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    “kung flu,” a pejorative term that Asian-Americans say is racist…

    Talk about praising with faint damns – almost all people who think about racism will say it was racist, and almost all the remainder will be saying “well, if you used it once, as a punchline, see, then it might be edgy and funny, and not *quite* over the line, but… oh, it was *TRUMP*? Never mind, yeah, it was racist as… uh… AH! As racist as TRUMP!”

  77. 77.

    Baud

    June 24, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @LongHairedWeirdo:

    It’s the kind of “joke” that you can see a comic make in the 1970s and get lots of laughs.  Trump’s base is nostalgic for those days.

  78. 78.

    namekarB

    June 24, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    Lotta lily white faces in that crowd. Just say’n

  79. 79.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Um … did you run it through Google Translate? Baud is being a very silly boy indeed!

  80. 80.

    Redshift

    June 24, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    @Bex:

    The Aunt Jemima brat said that statues of Jesus are being torn down. 

    Apparently the person who called for Jesus statues to be taken down is noted Bernie enthusiast Shaun King, because apparently he hasn’t been getting enough attention lately. In wingnut world, that’s the same as it actually happening.

  81. 81.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @namekarB: duh

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @namekarB

    “Welcome to the Enwhitenment!”

    //

  83. 83.

    joel hanes

    June 24, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    the “Bull Cook” book that you bring up every once in a while

    The one by George L. Herter?

    God, I miss Herter’s.  Especially the catalog.

  84. 84.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 24, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    Bob Uecker tells a tale

  85. 85.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    We got an invitation from some kids to a dog birthday party that said “bring your own dog’!

  86. 86.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @joel hanes: There is another????

  87. 87.

    Elizabelle

    June 24, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @Brachiator:  Mount Trumpmore.  Because Mount Trashmore is already taken.

    True.  It’s a hill over a former landfill in Virginia Beach.

  88. 88.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    looks like a really bad Maine poll slipped past the Jared-Ivanka-Kellyanne defensive force-field

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrum 1h
    Pres. Obama destroyed the lobster and fishing industry in Maine. Now it’s back, bigger and better than anyone ever thought possible. Enjoy your “lobstering” and fishing! Make lots of money!

    I have a dream– a small one, not every night– that William Cohen and Olympia Snowe call Collins and tell her, ‘you know, retirement isn’t so bad… don’t make us force the issue”

  89. 89.

    dexwood

    June 24, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @raven: Did you rsvp? Mask your honorable dogs. //

  90. 90.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    June 24, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    Couple of things:

    1. Talked to a potential client today about a car wreck case. Turns out her hubs has it, and she’s quarantined while he’s intubated. She said the hospital is out of ICU beds, and they’ve shuffled him to CCU and are asking about moving his intubated body to a nursing home. Also, her daughter, her hubs and all of her kids (except the O neg newborn) have it, but are asymptomatic.

    2. RWNJ mom had a hip replacement Saturday, and in a first, she’s bitter that my dad isn’t sucking up to her in recovery – had a lengthy talk with the Countess to complain about him, which hasn’t happened in 30+ years. She’s also super upset with the state of the COVID 19 and protest closures along with her stock account. Just as well that she didn’t talk to me -I’d have said something pithy about her getting everything she has ever voted for, so she should be super happy.

  91. 91.

    raven

    June 24, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @dexwood: They walk/scoot by about 10 times a day so we just said hell yes! Their little doggie loves me because of cookies!

  92. 92.

    geg6

    June 24, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @raven:

    That’s adorable.

  93. 93.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 24, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    @sanjeevs: She can be dumb and a grifter at the same time.  See Donald J Trump.

  94. 94.

    dexwood

    June 24, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    @raven:  Hell, man, I’d love you for cookies. Have fun.

  95. 95.

    geg6

    June 24, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Yes, with these people, it’s always why not both!

  96. 96.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    June 24, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    I put this fun little bit on Facebook today as a point on the “Muh Heritage” Confederacy arguments:

    Mediocre things which lasted longer than the Confederacy:

    1. Nickelback

    2. Three’s Company

    3. Petticoat Junction

    4. I Dream of Jeannie

    5. Gomer Pyle

    6. Curly Joe DeRita’s role on The Three Stooges

    7. My undergraduate academic career

    8. My 1989 Hyundai hatchback

    9. The production lines for the Chrysler K car

    10. My cheap push mower

    11. My car door lock remote.

  97. 97.

    Ohio Mom

    June 24, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    Schrodingers_cat, Baud and SiubhanDuinne;

    As luck would have it, I’d already sent my congratulations and received this response — धन्यवाद!
    (thank you!) — before I saw Baud’s offering.

    I still appreciate Baud’s effort. And feel vindicated in going to an expert jackal rather than Google Translate.

    All’s well that ends well!

  98. 98.

    Another Scott

    June 24, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @sanjeevs: +1

    LOLGOP’s previous tagline was: “Republicans don’t lie to be believed.  They lie to be repeated.”

    It’s all about getting and maintaining tribal identity, and keeping the rubes from looking outside for information.

    We should resist giving these monsters oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  99. 99.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    She can be dumb and a grifter at the same time.  See Donald J Trump.

    Sarah Palin had a good ten year run. I wonder how much she gets paid to open supermarkets or whatever she’s doing now

    ETA:

    6. Curly Joe DeRita’s role on The Three Stooges

    now that’s a shocker

  100. 100.

    Percysowner

    June 24, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    @germy:

     

    “Everything will be fine after all the old boomers die out.”

    I admit I’m going to go “not all men” here, but I’m a boomer (late boomer born 1953). I phone banked, registered voters and knocked on doors for Kerry and Obama. I phone banked and registered voters for Hillary. I voted for Warren, before she dropped out. Many of the phone bankers for Clinton were my age. A married couple came in from Massachusetts to help with the campaign.

    Boomers were never as liberal as they were thought to be in the 60s and are not uniformly as conservative as they are perceived now. It’s really a huge group that has always been more diverse than people give credit for.

    On a totally different note, this week it was announced that some of the Children’s Hospitals in Texas will now be taking adult COVID patients. I had to tell my son-in-law that his sister dodged a bullet here in Ohio. She’s a pediatric nurse who ended up being furloughed due to DeWine’s quick response to the pandemic. At least she’s not being exposed to COVID. As my SIL said in regard to DeWine, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

  101. 101.

    Jeffro

    June 24, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    @Baud: Amen.

    Let’s all try to spend at least an hour or two each week getting friends and relatives registered, reminding people on social media that they need to get registered, and um everything else.

  102. 102.

    Jeffro

    June 24, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: He really does think he’s this weird beneficial “distributor” of good things and economic fortune…all good things flow from trumpov…all hail me!

    I notice he’s getting bolder about taking shots at President Obama too.  That should work out well (eyeroll)

  103. 103.

    dexwood

    June 24, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: When I was 5 or so, The Three Stooges made a live appearance at Gynn Oaks Amusement Park in Baltimore. My parents took this Stooges freak and I was fired up. The disappointment I felt at seeing “fake Curly” remains to this day.

  104. 104.

    Eric U.

    June 24, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    My son wants to learn Hindi.  I can’t really help, all I know is stuff you don’t want to say in polite company.

  105. 105.

    Miss Bianca

    June 24, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    @dmsilev: I laugh, but I also cringe. I am sorry to have to report that an acquaintance of mine – a great photographer in Belfast who gave me a personal tour of the Troubles hotspots when I was over there – has gone full Bill Gates chip-embedding vaccine argle-bargle wingnut on us, according to a mutual friend. And I *never* would have pegged him as a conspiracy theorist.

    I think the COVID-19 quarantine has done scrambled some peoples’ brains. : (

  106. 106.

    Brachiator

    June 24, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Mediocre things which lasted longer than the Confederacy

    There is a statue dedicated to actor Frank Sutton, who played the sergeant in “Gomer Pyle.” It’s located in Clarksville, TN

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

  107. 107.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 24, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: 104 right now, libtard.  With 7% humidity!  It’s a dehydrating heat!

    Also, checkmate!  SAD!

  108. 108.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 24, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    I don’t know what your town is like, but I hope it’s like mine. I watch our City Council meetings every chance I get, and sometimes I get to report on them.

    @LCStansberry

    Linda Stansberry is pretty fucking sharp.

  109. 109.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 24, 2020 at 10:19 pm

    “Activate the Man Bun Maoists,” AOC bellowed, cracking the whip constructed from the desiccated carcass of everyone who had ever run against her. https://t.co/Z0LB5ENh45— Oliver Willis (@owillis) June 25, 2020

  110. 110.

    Redshift

    June 24, 2020 at 10:20 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: 

    Mediocre things which lasted longer than the Confederacy:

    When that topic came by on Twitter, I thought it was excellent trolling, but it did make me think – the “heritage” they’re nostalgic for isn’t just the period of the Confederacy, it’s for a world of aristocracy where “those people” knew their place.

  111. 111.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2020 at 10:20 pm

    @Eric U.:

    You can teach him the profanities when/if he’s old enough — about 12, say. One doesn’t really know a language, does one, until one is familiar with its doity woids.

  112. 112.

    Brachiator

    June 24, 2020 at 10:21 pm

    @hueyplong:

    Pretty sure Phillip Vandamm had a house near Mt Rushmore in about 1959, but not sure who lives there now.

    Archibald Leach and his common law wife, Eve Kendall.

  113. 113.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 24, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    @dmsilev:

    “the pedophiles” 

    Sorry ma’am, we need you to be specific about these pedos.

  114. 114.

    KrakenJack

    June 24, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    @joel hanes: My uncle, the farmer, got the Herter’s catalog. I used to pore over it when we visited. Looks like he went bankrupt around 1980 and the brand is owned by Cabelas. I’d like to thumb through a copy to see how it matches my memories.

  115. 115.

    sanjeevs

    June 24, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Did you watch the Palace game? Damn Liverpool were good.

  116. 116.

    zhena gogolia

    June 24, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    @dexwood:

    I assume real Curly was dead by then, so you got off easy.

  117. 117.

    zhena gogolia

    June 24, 2020 at 10:29 pm

    @hueyplong:

    That was a great house.

    There are two things I love to hear James Mason say: “Rapid City, South Dakota,” and “Thunderbird. It has a really unusual taste.”

  118. 118.

    Doug R

    June 24, 2020 at 10:35 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:  Hey, Nickelback SOLD OUT BOK Center in Tulsa-TWICE.

  119. 119.

    Anya

    June 24, 2020 at 10:35 pm

    There is a group of teens that go to every Trump rally. They are called “Trumped-Up Teens” and they follow some sketchy former youth pastor. I bet they were at the Phoenix rally.

  120. 120.

    hueyplong

    June 24, 2020 at 10:36 pm

    @zhena gogolia: The Thunderbird ad is still freaking me out.

    Mason stars in a fairly obscure movie “Five Fingers” that I really like.

  121. 121.

    Brachiator

    June 24, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    @Bex:

    The Aunt Jemima brat said that statues of Jesus are being torn down.

    No problem. They will rise up again on the third day.

  122. 122.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    @Doug R: So you’re helping Le Comte with his next Facebook posting: Things Trump never did.

  123. 123.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 24, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    Sigh

    His name is Carlos Adrian Ingram Lopez.He cried out for his grandmother as police handcuffed him face-down for 12 mins. He couldn’t breathe.He was killed by police two months ago, but body cam video was just released—officers must be held accountable. https://t.co/l6NnwdwkiH— Joaquin Castro (@JoaquinCastrotx) June 25, 2020

  124. 124.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    June 24, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    Dozens of Secret Service officers and agents who attended President Trump’s rally in Tulsa on Saturday have been instructed to self-quarantine after two Trump staffers tested positive for coronavirus, the Washington Post reported Wednesday.

  125. 125.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2020 at 10:43 pm

    @sanjeevs:

    Liverpool were a bit rusty at Goodison Park, and they were missing Mo Salah and Andy Robertson. But they were in cracking form at home to Palace, and Mo and Robo were back. If Chelsea manage to take points off Manchester City, Liverpool will arrive at City’s Etihad Stadium next week as champions.

  126. 126.

    VeniceRiley

    June 24, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    @Amir Khalid: GO CITY!

  127. 127.

    Jeffro

    June 24, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    @NotMax: He’s doing it for a campaign photo op, nothing else.

  128. 128.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2020 at 10:49 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    Hush yo’ mouth.

  129. 129.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 24, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    You should be off searching for how to properly stage a guard of honor and trust me, there are more than 23 things to do.

  130. 130.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    ?

    Photo enlarged 4x for detail.

  131. 131.

    John Revolta

    June 24, 2020 at 11:01 pm

    @dexwood: Parenting is complicated. Did they at least tell you that Curly was on a farm in the country where he got to run and play with his dogs every day?

  132. 132.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    What a night! So excited to be the Democratic nominee for #VA05! But the work is just getting started!!!!Twitter: we’re just over $5K from a milllion for the cycle and only have 52 minutes left to raise it. Can you help us hit a VERY important goal!Let’s get it!!! pic.twitter.com/G168mlRVpH— Dr. Cameron Webb (@DrCameronWebb) June 24, 2020

  133. 133.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    @joel hanes: Yep, that one.

  134. 134.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I’m sure that 725 Security, Inc.(a subsidiary of the Trump Organization) will be there to cover the slack.

  135. 135.

    catclub

    June 24, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    @mousebumples: But I know seeing the Wisconsin poll gave me a little extra spring in my step today.

     

    the mention that Ohio went for Obama twice and seems to be out of range due to political shift is interesting to me.

    Also NC and Indiana went for Obama and I have heard very little about either of them.

  136. 136.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 24, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    ROFL, they just found a smaller venue. This is like the scene in Spinal Tap were they end up playing church dances.

    Trump really comes across like he has serious back problems with the way he walks and stands.

  137. 137.

    dexwood

    June 24, 2020 at 11:09 pm

    @John Revolta: How did you know? Shemp would have made me happier.

  138. 138.

    SFAW

    June 24, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Archibald Leach and his common law wife, Eve Kendall.

    A) They were just there for their pre-honeymoon. They ended up taking an Amtrak to parts unknown.

    B) She’s still with us, amazingly enough.

  139. 139.

    theturtlemoves

    June 24, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I grew up in the Black Hills.  I’d prefer they not get burned down for Trump.

  140. 140.

    SFAW

    June 24, 2020 at 11:14 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Trump really comes across like he has serious back problems with the way he walks and stands.

    You sure it’s not from the lifts in his shoes?

  141. 141.

    SFAW

    June 24, 2020 at 11:17 pm

    @theturtlemoves:

    I grew up in the Black Hills.

    Rocky? Is that you? How’s “Nancy”? [a/k/a Betty Jo Bialosky.]

  142. 142.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2020 at 11:18 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    You just hit on something: Trump’s campaign is going exactly as well as the disastrous American tour in that movie. Trump truly is the Spinal Tap* of Presidents.

    *It’s a damn shame that FYWP’s special character set doesn’t include an umlauted n.

  143. 143.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    @SFAW: Every one knows her name was McGill, but she called herself Lil.

  144. 144.

    Dahlia

    June 24, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    @zhena gogolia: If only it were real.

    From Wikipedia: Vandamm’s house, set on a cliff atop Mount Rushmore, was not a real structure. Hitchcock asked the set designers to make the house in the style of Frank Lloyd Wright, the most popular architect in America at the time, using the materials, form and interiors associated with him.[32] Set designer Robert F. Boyle planned the house, which featured a cantilevered living room and made extensive use of limestone. Exterior shots were done using matte paintings,[33] while interior shots were filmed using a set built in Culver City, California, where MGM’s studios were located.

  145. 145.

    SFAW

    June 24, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    I thought her name was Melanie Haber. Or maybe Audrey Farber? Or maybe Susan Underhill?

  146. 146.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2020 at 11:25 pm

    The Trumpjugend are doing what they’re supposed to do: put their lives at risk for the Dear Leader.

  147. 147.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2020 at 11:27 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    Yeah???

  148. 148.

    theturtlemoves

    June 24, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    @Amir Khalid: No, no, no.  Spinal Tap were good-natured idiots who actually had some talent for playing their instruments if not necessarily for staging or lyrics.  They shall not be libeled by a comparison to Trump.

  149. 149.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2020 at 11:28 pm

     

    @Ohio Mom:

    How did the hubby ‘s trip to Vegas go?

  150. 150.

    Just Chuck

    June 24, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    U+0308 COMBINING DIARESES.  Un̈icode FTW

  151. 151.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    @Elizabelle: Nunes has no character to slander.  Or libel, for that matter.

  152. 152.

    moops

    June 24, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

     

    Had an ER doctor on Newshour tonight, or yesterday?   oh, we are handling things, it didn’t go like the experts said at first so we rescued the economy and we are handling the rise in patients….

     

    Many doctors and nurses in Texas are full on Trump GOP idiots.

  153. 153.

    dirge

    June 24, 2020 at 11:37 pm

     

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: He was suing for 250 million over the possibility of losing a job that pays 174k, sure that seems fair.

    Worth noting that the job in question isn’t something he has, or owns, or can claim any right to keep.  A congressional seat can’t and doesn’t belong to anyone, so it makes no sense to suggest he’s somehow injured by losing it.

    Meanwhile, this is a guy who will fight tooth and nail to make sure I can never sue anybody if I lose my job.

  154. 154.

    moops

    June 24, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    @LongHairedWeirdo:  Trump using Kung Flu is just so messed up racist.   The man knows he can’t tell jokes, he can belittle or bully people and he finds THAT funny.  Putting someone down makes him smirk, which is his version of laugh and smile.

  155. 155.

    SFAW

    June 24, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    He was suing for 250 million over the possibility of losing a job that pays 174k, sure that seems fair.

    You’re not taking his grifting into account. I would bet a beer that he makes a ton more from his grifting than from his salary.

  156. 156.

    Kent

    June 24, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    @moops:Many doctors and nurses in Texas are full on Trump GOP idiots.

    Very very true.  We lived in TX for over a decade and my wife was a doctor.  I knew many many rabid Republican doctors and nurses.

    The doctors tend to be good ole boy types who have never left Texas.  Grew up in some middling conservative town or suburb, went to A&M and got into med school.  Basically never been anywhere else.  California is the only other state where people tend to stay put like that.  I knew a ton of these good ole boy Baptist Republican doctors who were rapidly against Obama (this was pre-Trump).

    A lot of nurses tend to be married to white working class asshole husbands like truck drivers, ranchers, factory foremen, etc.   So they pick up the MAGA from their husbands and Fox news.  The single nurses tend to be younger and smarter.  I know I’m very much generalizing, but it’s what I’ve observed.   I saw a lot of female teachers who were like that too  Married some blue collar asshole with a big truck and they go hunting or fishing every weekend and curse Obama.

  157. 157.

    ltelf

    June 25, 2020 at 12:04 am

    @theturtlemoves: If we want a fictional band that’s synonymous with failure, how about the Sultans of Swing?

  158. 158.

    dirge

    June 25, 2020 at 12:13 am

    @moops: the weird thing is that the king flu bit is sort of shaped like a joke.  There’s the “they call it a lot of things” setup, toss out a couple names to build dramatic tension, a beat for timing…  then the transgressive punchline.

    I don’t watch enough Trump to know how much of his shtick works like this, but I wonder to what degree his audience is experiencing all of it as a “stuff you’re not supposed to say” comedy routine.  But since they completely lack self awareness and critical thinking skills, they attribute the catharsis to epiphany rather than to mediocre catch-phrase humor.

  159. 159.

    Steeplejack

    June 25, 2020 at 12:15 am

    Never mind.

  160. 160.

    Poe Larity

    June 25, 2020 at 12:22 am

    What if we just offered Donald the biggest parade ever to leave early? Even Spinal Tap will appear.

  161. 161.

    Martin

    June 25, 2020 at 12:24 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I’m a strong supporter for replacing every confederate statue with a suitable Pokemon statue. I can’t imagine the people of Charleston wouldn’t be better served by the comfort of having wooloo or snorlax sitting over their city.

  162. 162.

    joel hanes

    June 25, 2020 at 12:27 am

    @KrakenJack:

    The “good” Herter’s catalogs are from about 1960 to 1968, IMHO.   You can find them on ebay.   Gotta love the product names.

    (from memory): Herter’s World Famous Chrome Fiberglass Duck, Goose, Fishing, and Cartop 17-foot Boat

    I grew up in North Iowa, and we used to visit the showroom.  Herter’s had superb goosedown sleeping bags and parkas before almost anyone else, better than Bauer or Bean IMHO, and long before North Face or Marmot existed, and was an amazing source of raw materials for serious gunsmiths and fly-tying afficionados.  In 1970 I bought an absolutely bulletproof Lowe frame backpack there that lasted me until 1992.

    There are some Herter’s products I wish I could still buy, like the heavy glass storage jars with the figured lids, and the Hudson’s Bay style blankets.

    If you want old-fashioned high-quality wool blankets, take a look at the products of Faribault Woolen Mills, which is not that far from Waseca.  (Checking their site, I’m disappointed to learn that they’ve apparently discontinued their National Park series, some of which were gorgeous)

    ETA:  I was confused.  The National Park blankets are from Pendleton, are still made, and are still gorgeous.

  163. 163.

    joel hanes

    June 25, 2020 at 12:30 am

    @SFAW:

    Betty Jo Bialaski

  164. 164.

    moops

    June 25, 2020 at 12:33 am

    @dirge: so set up, then transgressive punchline.  Like an Andrew Dice Clay routine, but without any of the skill his meager comedy could bring to the stage.  I mean, even Clay could make himself the butt of half his jokes, and his audience was often the butt of his jokes.   Since Trump can never ever make fun of himself, or his cult members he can’t ever really do comedy.

  165. 165.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 25, 2020 at 12:34 am

    @SFAW: You sure it’s not from the lifts in his shoes?

    Hahhahaah, that would be hilarious if Trump is constant back pain because he has to wear high-heels.

  166. 166.

    Doug R

    June 25, 2020 at 12:34 am

    @Amir Khalid: Try alt 165: Ñ

  167. 167.

    Steeplejack

    June 25, 2020 at 12:47 am

    @Doug R:

    That’s a tilde, not an umlaut.

    And it seems wrong that the word umlaut does not contain an umlaut. Ümlaut: so much more satisfying.

  168. 168.

    Gemina13

    June 25, 2020 at 12:51 am

    Mom moved us to Phoenix from Chicago, IL in 1979.  I was almost 9 then.  In 1988, most of my high school graduating class and I fled for schools out of state, humiliated by the (thankfully short) tenure of Evan Mecham and the roiling racism & homophobia revealed by those that supported him.  I had to return in 2006 for the lower cost of living, with a sick mother in tow who shortly dropped through the trapdoor of Alzheimer’s, and found that the festering bigotry was suppurating.  I didn’t keep tabs on the teenagers, but I remembered hoping that when I left again in 2011, any high school graduates with brains and heart would do as my generation did and run.

    It’s not snobbery or mere dislike.  The longer you stay in Phoenix, the likelier you are to be surrounded by people who do not believe anyone but whites should have any civil rights, or that the poor and sick are entitled to mercy.  It’s a vicious sickness, and it’s deliberately cultivated by the moneyed interests who want to keep grabbing all the land, minerals, and resources they can; they know they can only do it if they give the masses a bone to chew.  Racism is it.  Trump is not the cause of the sickness; he’s merely the rash that’s come out, a symptom of the untreated cause.

  169. 169.

    dirge

    June 25, 2020 at 1:00 am

    @moops: Yeah, not saying it’s good comedy.  Not really sure it qualifies as comedy at all.  But it’s structurally similar, and the audience is reacting like a standup audience, but with racism and hate swapped in where the humor and laughter are supposed to go.

    Deeply weird stuff.  I just grasp at any thread that gives my analytical purchase, however feeble, because it’s all so disturbing and alien.

  170. 170.

    prostratedragon

    June 25, 2020 at 1:24 am

    @HumboldtBlue:  I did not know Bob Uecker was still living. I’ve often thought of him lately while looking at pictures of the “crowds” at the COVID Roadshow rallies.

  171. 171.

    Brachiator

    June 25, 2020 at 1:32 am

    @dirge:

    the weird thing is that the king flu bit is sort of shaped like a joke. There’s the “they call it a lot of things” setup, toss out a couple names to build dramatic tension, a beat for timing… then the transgressive punchline.

    I don’t watch enough Trump to know how much of his shtick works like this, but I wonder to what degree his audience is experiencing all of it as a “stuff you’re not supposed to say” comedy routine.

    I think you nailed it. I watched a clip of this on Seth Meyer’s late night show, and it was strange how Trump was once again acting like a second rate night club comedian who was exactly as dumb as his audience.  This is why he goes over so well.

    In addition to the racist punch line, he had this routine about “Covid-19. Why do they call it that?” As though the liberal elite was making up things to confuse the righteous masses. His audience laughed and laughed. But I kept wondering, why is a president of the United States pretending to be stupid? Or wallowing in it?

    Obviously, he would have been told what Covid-19 meant in a briefing. But he slept through it, or was not paying attention.  He is the president of people who are proud to be stupid.

  172. 172.

    JustRuss

    June 25, 2020 at 2:20 am

    @dmsilev: Given Trump’s, and 2020’s, track record, what can I invest in that will pay off when most of the Dakotas are on fire?  Seems like a sure bet.

  173. 173.

    Ohio Mom

    June 25, 2020 at 3:24 am

    rikyrah @149: Hubby is still there :^(

    That’s why I am up at this ungodly hour, I roll over in my sleep and he is missing.

  174. 174.

    rikyrah

    June 25, 2020 at 5:23 am

    @Ohio Mom:

    ????? for his safe return

  175. 175.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 25, 2020 at 7:21 am

    @dexwood: I think I was there in the crowd at Gwyn Oak with you (though 5-6 years older)!

    There are only two things I remember from that day & both have to do with Moe. One is how much silver had sifted into his classic bowl cut. The other was something he said at a pause in the slapstick. He stepped forward to the microphone and…it went something like this:

    Kids, I want to talk to your parents for a minute.

    Folks – I just want you to know how much we appreciate your children. When they started showing our old films on TV, we were just a bunch of washed-up vaudeville comedians. They watched, they became fans – and they brought us back from nowhere. And we cannot tell you how completely, utterly, eternally grateful we are to them.

    It was a really sweet moment.

  176. 176.

    Jay Noble

    June 25, 2020 at 12:45 pm

    @joel hanes: Alas, Herter’s is one of the brands Bass Pro swallowed after the takeover of Cabela’s. When I was doing the Cabela’s catalogs, Herter’s took up a lot of pages in the Waterfowl section. Just checked and only 22 items with the Herter’s name – mostly ammo and game bags. Bass Pro rebranded so much stuff and eliminated a great deal of Cabela’s higher end offerings

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