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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Military / Proud to Be A Democrat Open Thread: Good for Senator Duckworth

Proud to Be A Democrat Open Thread: Good for Senator Duckworth

by Anne Laurie|  July 2, 20206:15 pm| 55 Comments

This post is in: Military, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Russiagate

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I’m speaking on the floor today because I am appalled by what appears to be a total betrayal of our troops by the man who’s supposed to be their Commander in Chief. Tune in: https://t.co/gBOsNpqO6i

— Tammy Duckworth (@SenDuckworth) June 29, 2020

Wow — Duckworth says she will block Senate approvals of **1,123** senior U.S. Armed Forces promotions until Esper "confirms in writing that he did not, or will not, block the expected and deserved promotion of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman to Colonel."

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) July 2, 2020

Sen. Duckworth to block more than 1,000 military promotions unless Pentagon vows not to retaliate against Vindman https://t.co/73pUilHSgU

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 2, 2020

Make the Squatter-in-Chief own his crimes:

… Duckworth is a Purple Heart recipient and a former Army helicopter pilot who lost both her legs in the Iraq War.

Vindman, who received a Purple Heart for his actions in Iraq and later served as a White House aide on European affairs, is among hundreds of officers selected to be promoted to full colonel this year.

In February, the White House ousted Vindman from his post on the National Security Council. He had testified to Congress in November that he was disturbed by Trump’s call for Ukraine to investigate the president’s political rivals.

“Our military is supposed to be the ultimate meritocracy,” Duckworth said in a statement. “It is simply unprecedented and wrong for any Commander in Chief to meddle in routine military matters at all, whether or not he has a personal vendetta against a Soldier who did his patriotic duty and told the truth — a Soldier who has been recommended for promotion by his superiors because of his performance. . . . This goes far beyond any single military officer, it is about protecting a merit-based system from political corruption and unlawful retaliation.”…

Whether or not she’s Joe Biden’s VP choice, it’s clear she’ll be an important part of his team.

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  1. 1.

    Uncle Jeffy

    July 2, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    She’s my Senator and I’m proud of her.Compare her sacrifice and LtCol Vindman’s to those of Cadet Bonespurs and his mealy-mouthed VP. Rethuglikkkans – cowards and traitors.

  2. 2.

    Another Scott

    July 2, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    Excellent. Thank you Senator Duckworth.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    July 2, 2020 at 6:32 pm

    This is how you actually support the troops.

  4. 4.

    trollhattan

    July 2, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    “I prefer soldiers who did not have their legs blown off.”

    –Sir you-know-who

    Good work senator, keep it up! Bet Turtle is off having a mumblefest somewhere.

  5. 5.

    geg6

    July 2, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    She is awesome.

    Never again do I want to hear another Republican claim their party supports the troops.  After reading the WaPo story about the guys who testified against the war criminal and how they’ve suffered, the lack of outcry from them regarding the Russian bounties and how they vilified Vindman, they have lost all credibility.  Vindman deserves a Congressional Medal of Honor, IMHO.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    July 2, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    @geg6:

    I hope the troops register their disgust in November.

  7. 7.

    Cameron

    July 2, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    Reading Sen. Duckworth’s statement, my immediate thought was Lee Marvin in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance:  “All right, dude.  This one’s right between the eyes.”  And Marvin was the bad guy…

  8. 8.

    debbie

    July 2, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Seconded.

  9. 9.

    MomSense

    July 2, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    @geg6:

    I’m with you.  I never believed their bullshit and the way they lorded their phony support for the troops and hawkish foreign policy but now – I wish a GOP motherfucker would.  I’m furious.

  10. 10.

    Alison Rose

    July 2, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    I love her and would reeeeeeeally love it if Biden chose her, because 8 years down the line (or 4, considering Biden’s age) she’d be a fantastic fucking presidential candidate.

  11. 11.

    debbie

    July 2, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    @MomSense:

    All the more reason to despise Cotton.

  12. 12.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 2, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    One of my Senators (who I’ll be voting for again in 2022 if she runs) making us proud.

  13. 13.

    MomSense

    July 2, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    @debbie:

    I’ve despised him from the moment I first heard about him.  I’ll never forgive his fucking stunt with his letter to Iran trying to undermine B Obama.

    I’m a donkey on the edge, Debbie!

  14. 14.

    Yutsano

    July 2, 2020 at 7:02 pm

    I had no idea she has a slight Thai accent. It’s wonderful to hear. And she’s ripping the Republicans a new one. I still think she has eligibility issues but she’s a great Senator.

    @debbie: You want to watch Adam go off? Mention Tom Cotton. He has words about that man…

  15. 15.

    gwangung

    July 2, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Actually, as a Washington resident, I REALLY want to vote for her.

  16. 16.

    JMG

    July 2, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    This shows how a single Senator can use the body’s ridiculous and antiquated rules to do some good if they are willing. Esper won’t do it, of course, and Mitch can overrule it on the floor, but that means Collins et. al. have to stand with him to their political detriment.

  17. 17.

    Martin

    July 2, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    I did not know the Senate could do that. Good job Sen Duckworth.

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 2, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    @gwangung: She was born in Thailand, so I don’t think she’s eligible to be VP.  (At least from what Joe Biden told Trevor Noah when Noah jokingly asked to be considered.  I haven’t groked the Constitution lately.)

  19. 19.

    gwangung

    July 2, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Father’s an American citizen (serviceman), so I’m supporting the troops….

  20. 20.

    Martin

    July 2, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    FedEx (sponsor of the stadium) asks the owner of the Redskins to change the team name.

    So, we’re probably going to have another 2 weeks of that shit again.

  21. 21.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 2, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    @gwangung: You could vote for her in 2022 if you move to Illinois. ?

  22. 22.

    JMG

    July 2, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: She was born of US parents, one in the military, so she is eligible.

  23. 23.

    germy

    July 2, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    Open thread?  Here’s a weird story:

    A few days ago it was reported someone threw an explosive into a correctional officer’s house.

    Now it turns out, the correctional officer filed a false report.  Nobody threw an explosive into his house.  It was a firecracker set off either by the officer or a member of his family.  But he gave police the name of a woman who had disagreed with him about politics on the “Next Door” website:

    wnyt.com/albany-new-york-news/fireworks-ryan-lawson-deanne-grimaldi-/5780115/?cat=1011

    “This is about abuse of power,” Grimaldi declared, “This is about trying to silence people. We know now they could have made up anything about me. They lied. I have kids and I worry because if they could lie and do this to me, I’m worried about what other things they could do.”

  24. 24.

    dmsilev

    July 2, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Her father was a US citizen, so under not-insane interpretations of the law, she’s eligible to run for President or Veep.

  25. 25.

    Jay Noble

    July 2, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    I think Trump & the GOP are more afraid another title she bears – Mom.

  26. 26.

    Alison Rose

    July 2, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: According to this Reddit thread (which, I mean, grain of salt and all that) she would be eligible because her father was a US citizen and she was born overseas due to him being in the army. She’s in the same category in that sense (and no other) as Ted Cruz, it seems?

    (Sorry to add to the pile-on, should have refreshed :P )

  27. 27.

    JoyceH

    July 2, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    Let’s not forget Vindman’s brother, who had nothing to do with the impeachment allegations but got frog-marched out of the White House as well.

  28. 28.

    Martin

    July 2, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    @gwangung: I think under the current rules she would be, but it’s not clear under the rules as the time she became a citizen. Dad was a US citizen working for the UN and she came to the US before the age of 18. It might depend on whether she was ever a citizen of Indonesia or Thailand or the other places she lived.

  29. 29.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    July 2, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    I remember some Trump sycophant vet gave his Purple Heart to Trump back in 2016. Of course, he accepted it. I wonder whatever happened to that Purple Heart? I’ve used the Great Google and come up with zilch

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    July 2, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I still think she has eligibility issues but she’s a great Senator.

    She doesn’t have any real eligibility problems.  Her father was an American citizen, and that makes her a native born citizen.

  31. 31.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    July 2, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    @germy:

    That’s similar to “SWATing”, where you call the cops on somebody and the SWAT team swoops in on them.

    That woman is right. This was absolutely meant to silence and harass people Lawson disagreed with. Have no idea why that NBC affiliate felt the need to put “Soccer Mom” in the title

  32. 32.

    germy

    July 2, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    A few days ago, before Maxwell was arrested, some people on twitter noticed things:

    It’s weird: Alan Dershowitz has sent 8 defensive tweets about his relationship with Epstein today – the most tweets he has sent in a day in as long as I can see.

    Anything happening with the SDNY these days?

    — Amy Siskind ?️‍? (@Amy_Siskind) June 23, 2020

    They all seem to be popping out of the woodwork since shakeup at SDNY. Rudy is tweeting again & was on FOX tonight. They must all be scared shitless They must think one of them are going down, just dont know which. Good thing is if its Dersh or Rudy then tRump cant be far behind!

    — Kris Shofner #Biden2020 #TrumpDerelictionOfDuty (@kristineshofner) June 23, 2020

  33. 33.

    germy

    July 2, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    That woman is right. This was absolutely meant to silence and harass people Lawson disagreed with.

    Nothing good comes of going on “Next Door” and sharing one’s opinions with fascists.  If they don’t like what you’re saying, they’ll go after you every time.

  34. 34.

    satby

    July 2, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    @Roger Moore: She’s eligible, and a member of the DAR. Duckworths have served in the military in this country since its founding.

  35. 35.

    The Moar You Know

    July 2, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    I’ve not had an opinion on who Biden should choose as his VP.  I do now.  I think she would be excellent.  That’s thinking outside the box and fucking the GOP with their own bullshit rules, and we (as a party) need a lot more of that.

  36. 36.

    sdhays

    July 2, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    @Martin: I’m surprised that a member of the minority has this power in this Senate. I suspect it’s one of those courtesy “powers” that McConnell has revoked over and over again when it became inconvenient

    ETA: Even so, McConnell can see that there’s a very decent chance that Republicans don’t control the chamber next year, and it’s not worth going “nuclear” over this since it doesn’t get him anything.

  37. 37.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    July 2, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    @germy:

    Yup. I would think Facebook also has the same problems

  38. 38.

    pluky

    July 2, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    @gwangung: not just “a serviceman”. Scion of a lineage of service that goes back to the  American Revolution.

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 2, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    @JMG:

    @dmsilev:

    @Alison Rose: Point taken! :)

    We’ll just have to see who Biden picks (or you could reply to a spam email poll). ?

  40. 40.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 2, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    LTC (retired) and Senator Duckworth kicks ass and takes names…particularly that of the traitor-in-chief, draft dodging coward Donald Trump.

  41. 41.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 2, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    @pluky: Compare this to the grandson of a man who fled Bavaria to avoid military service and set up shop as a pimp.

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 2, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: You know, being a corporal in a Bavarian regiment is a viable route to world power.

  43. 43.

    Gvg

    July 2, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    @germy: funny, I haven’t seen anything like that on my Next door. It’s mostly lost pets and opinions on home repair companies. Also, a lot of complaints about Cox cable. There are a few iffy things like suspicious cars that could be anything which get called out by others. There are really a lot of missing pets, including turtles-more than one, more than once. I hadn’t realized there were that many tortoise owners. People don’t want to hear politics because they know it causes fights, so that kind of gets pushed out, here.

  44. 44.

    Roger Moore

    July 2, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    @sdhays:

    I’m surprised that a member of the minority has this power in this Senate.

    She can’t formally block the bill.  What she can do is to deny unanimous consent to move it to a vote.  Basically, there are too many bills for the Senate to give them all a full debate.  Instead, most minor stuff is moved by requesting unanimous consent, i.e. by saying that they’ll go straight to a vote unless someone objects.

    By denying unanimous consent, Duckworth is saying that she sees this as an important matter that demands a full debate.  Since a full debate can take a few days, that’s a significant investment of time, and McConnell is unlikely to be willing to do it for something he considers to be minor.  If it’s minor enough to do without it, he would just table it and move on to the next bill.  But this is still important enough that he will really want it to pass, so he will have to knuckle under and give her what she wants, spend the time on a full debate, or try to attach it to some must-pass legislation.

  45. 45.

    Mary G

    July 2, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    She’s just as eligible to be president as John McCain was.

  46. 46.

    Roger Moore

    July 2, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Trump would lose an ass kicking contest to this particular double amputee.

  47. 47.

    Jinchi

    July 2, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: At least from what Joe Biden told Trevor Noah when Noah jokingly asked to be considered.

    At 36, Trevor Noah just barely passes the minimum age requirement, but he misses the eligibility mark on a few points.

    • Noah has only lived in the US since 2011. A VP has to have been resident of the US for 14 years.
    • He’s a “natural born” citizen of South Africa, not the United States.
    • In fact he isn’t a citizen of the United States at all.

    As daughter of an American citizen, the 52 year old Duckworth has been a citizen since birth and has lived in the United States since 1984. So she clears all the hurdles, other than the “birther” objections that have no basis in law.

  48. 48.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 2, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You know, being a corporal in a Bavarian regiment is a viable route to world power.

    Oh, excellent.

  49. 49.

    Kent

    July 2, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    @gwangung: I think under the current rules she would be, but it’s not clear under the rules as the time she became a citizen. Dad was a US citizen working for the UN and she came to the US before the age of 18. It might depend on whether she was ever a citizen of Indonesia or Thailand or the other places she lived.

    I think she is in the same situation as John McCain who was born in Panama when his father was serving in the Panama Canal Zone.

  50. 50.

    Kent

    July 2, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    She can’t formally block the bill.  What she can do is to deny unanimous consent to move it to a vote.  Basically, there are too many bills for the Senate to give them all a full debate.  Instead, most minor stuff is moved by requesting unanimous consent, i.e. by saying that they’ll go straight to a vote unless someone objects.

    By denying unanimous consent, Duckworth is saying that she sees this as an important matter that demands a full debate.  Since a full debate can take a few days, that’s a significant investment of time, and McConnell is unlikely to be willing to do it for something he considers to be minor.  If it’s minor enough to do without it, he would just table it and move on to the next bill.  But this is still important enough that he will really want it to pass, so he will have to knuckle under and give her what she wants, spend the time on a full debate, or try to attach it to some must-pass legislation.

    What I don’t understand is why someone like her doesn’t bring the Senate to a fucking halt with every single unanimous consent motion to slow down the rush to put in conservative judges before the 2021.    That is what McConnell would do (and did with Garland).

  51. 51.

    SFAW

    July 2, 2020 at 10:26 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You know, being a corporal in a Bavarian regiment is a viable route to world power.

    If only my 70-years-gone grandfather had known.

    Well, except that he wasn’t one of those candy-ass Bavarians, he was Prussian. And he was an Unteroffizier, so I guess that disqualifies him

    ETA: No, he wasn’t a Nazi; he left the Heimat in 1910 or so.

  52. 52.

    SFAW

    July 2, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    @Kent:

    I think she is in the same situation as John McCain who was born in Panama when his father was serving in the Panama Canal Zone.

    I think George Romney was born in Mexico. Similar “controversy” during the 1968 R primaries.

  53. 53.

    MelissaM

    July 2, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    THAT’S (one of my) SENATOR(s)!! Honestly when I voted for her, I wasn’t sure she would be able to do the duties – would she be a light weight, etc. But she’s proven herself to me. I’m so happy with her, and of course with Durbin.

  54. 54.

    SFAW

    July 2, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    @MelissaM:

    and of course with Durbin.

    He’s a racist who says hurtful things, you know. Or so Tim Scott tells me. Because racist Durbin racistly called Scott’s police “reform” bill/proposal a “token proposal.” Which is almost the same as calling Scott a “token.” Or something. Scott never exactly explained what was so hurtful or racist about what Durbin said. But I believe his “outrage” is real, not faked oh no.

  55. 55.

    Jay

    July 3, 2020 at 12:05 am

    Y’all realize you are never leaving Sars -Covid 19.

    While the ROW moves on,

    Because of Trumpists and anti-vaxxers, ( 40%) , y’all aint never achieving “herd”’ immunity.

    If it’ even possible.

    Corona Virus Nation, Forever.

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