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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Biden For President / Friday Morning Open Thread: Happy BDay, America…

Friday Morning Open Thread: Happy BDay, America…

by Anne Laurie|  July 3, 20206:17 am| 167 Comments

This post is in: Biden For President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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BREAKING: The Dangerous Ones

In November, we have one last chance to save America. #VoteForOurLives pic.twitter.com/QbZa7YXDQs

— Eleven Films (@Eleven_Films) July 2, 2020

Kinda running with a theme, this week. Prove me wrong!…

joe biden:
– won't ignore a pandemic because it's too mean
– repeal trump's billionaire tax cut
– best towing capacity in class https://t.co/Y5RjGvR8cu

— Pat Dennis (@patdennis) July 2, 2020

This is maybe the highest profile example possible of Biden’s great strength being how difficult it is to rile up the president’s supporters about the possibility of a Biden presidency. https://t.co/MWcvMcJkjv

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 3, 2020

Here's my response to @parscale's oped in the Post:https://t.co/QQXtPEJXSv

This year the campaigns are going to spend more than ever, and it adds up to a gigantic mountain of nothing.

"But we made 42 million voter contacts!" And what did you get for it? A 10 point deficit.

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman1) July 2, 2020

There may not be a lot of enthusiasm for voting *for Biden*, but there's plenty of enthusiasm for voting *against Trump*, and it's likely that largely serves the same purpose.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) July 2, 2020

Retweet if you're excited for a @JoeBiden presidency. #WeWantJoe pic.twitter.com/yNNLTnlswu

— MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) July 3, 2020

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  1. 1.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 6:28 am

    Fuck Peter Thiel.

  2. 2.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 6:33 am

    Out of the frying pan and…. No, throwing the frying pan into the fire: Arizona reels as three of the biggest wildfires in its history ravage state .

  3. 3.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 6:34 am

    Our birthday is tomorrow.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 6:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Fire kills the virus.

  5. 5.

    WereBear

    July 3, 2020 at 6:36 am

    Republicans see every crisis as a marketing challenge.

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 6:37 am

    @Baud: So there is a method to the GOP madness after all. Genius!

  7. 7.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 6:40 am

    @WereBear: This is spot on.

  8. 8.

    gkoutnik

    July 3, 2020 at 6:43 am

    @Baud: I’ll be listening to this tomorrow morning, just like every Independence Day morning for decades.  Can’t afford to forget any of it.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/07/03/883024992/npr-reads-the-declaration-of-independence

  9. 9.

    WereBear

    July 3, 2020 at 6:45 am

    @Baud: They LIVE for contrarian clickbait headlines.

    Upsides of Death You Haven’t Considered

    What If You Didn’t Like Grandma Anyway?

    Think of Death as Your Debt Erasure Move!

  10. 10.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 6:50 am

    @WereBear: You left out Haven’t You Waited Long Enough for Your Inheritance???

    ETA: also Don’t Let Them Fritter Away You Inheritance on Assisted Living!

  11. 11.

    Narya

    July 3, 2020 at 6:54 am

    Kitchen update! Walls are up and painted (!!)—picked a color yesterday (outside in daylight) with a piece of cabinet handy. Last thing he did was put up this plastic/zippered entryway from kitchen to DR, so dust from Floor Guy to rest of the unit is reduced. Floor Guy starts Monday—and cabinets might be in by next week? Dunno. Appliances a week from Monday.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 6:54 am

    @WereBear:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    How to Make Thanksgiving Dinner More Manageable

  13. 13.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 3, 2020 at 6:56 am

    Trigger warning on that Dangerous Ones ad. At 1:30 you see a quick montage of Trump, Barr, Lindsey, and Mitch. White hot bolt of rage.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 7:03 am

    joe biden:
    – won’t ignore a pandemic because it’s too mean
    – repeal trump’s billionaire tax cut
    – best towing capacity in class

    I like it, but it’s an ad only a white guy could make.

  15. 15.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 7:04 am

    @Baud: Simplify Your Xmas Shopping

  16. 16.

    WereBear

    July 3, 2020 at 7:10 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: And the religious themes!

    Don’t You Want to Meet God?

    Get FREE Republican Upgrade on that Condo in Heaven

    COVID-19: Here’s how to get those extra points on your Heavenly Reward

  17. 17.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 7:10 am

    @WereBear:

    Beat the Rapture Crowds!

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 7:14 am

    @WereBear: It’s Time to Have That Come to Jesus Meeting!

  19. 19.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 7:16 am

    @Baud: For the Muslims: Don’t Keep Those Virgins Waiting

  20. 20.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 7:18 am

    For Paula White and her fellow prosperity Gospel Travelers: I Need a New Jet

  21. 21.

    Geminid

    July 3, 2020 at 7:20 am

    Thiel is surely an asshole, but that he pulls his financial support from Trump’s campaign is good news. Ms. Cracker shared a trump fundraising appeal the other day, and it had a smell of desperation. Will other wealthy trump supporters decide to stop throwing good money at a loser? The massive trump campaign may hit a cash crunch even as it has to defend more states. The “Death Star” may actually be a ponderous gravy train that runs low on coal this fall.

  22. 22.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 3, 2020 at 7:20 am

    It’s Hamilton day! Also the day we get to see if Trump can set Mt. Rushmore on fire.

  23. 23.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 7:23 am

    Lose the bold.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 7:23 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    It would be kind of fascinating if all the soot gave the presidents blackface.  We’d be debating the symbolism for weeks.

  25. 25.

    Amir Khalid

    July 3, 2020 at 7:24 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I will never understand those who preach that a Muslim’s reward for a godly life of refraining from sinful indulgence shall be an eternity of free booze and sex.

  26. 26.

    cmorenc

    July 3, 2020 at 7:26 am

    The supposed “lack of enthusiasm” about Biden is because, except for “high enthusiasm” MAGA voters, the order of preference for the next President was:

    .1) Someone else

    .2) Someone else

    .3) Biden

    4)……

    ………..

    10,000) Someone else, so long as it’s NOT Donald Trump

  27. 27.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  @WereBear:  @Baud:

    “Come for the politics, stay for the depravity”?

    [NB: Of course, if you kids were to respond “You’re just saying that because YOU can’t come up with any similar marketing slogans,” I wouldn’t deny it.]

  28. 28.

    evodevo

    July 3, 2020 at 7:27 am

    @Narya: Yes…this is important!  I was looking for muted gold one time, picked color in dim fluorescent light, ended up with …lemon yellow…

  29. 29.

    JPL

    July 3, 2020 at 7:31 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: A year from now trump could be heard screaming from inside his cell that his fireworks were spectacular.

    at least I hope so.

  30. 30.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:33 am

    There may not be a lot of enthusiasm for voting *for Biden*, but there’s plenty of enthusiasm for voting *against Trump*, and it’s likely that largely serves the same purpose.
    — Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) July 2, 2020

    I am reminded of my oft-mentioned NPR anecdote from 2016, to wit: The alleged/self-described Dem voter who said (more-or-less) “Give me a reason to vote for Hillary, but without mentioning ‘Donald Trump’ or ‘the Supreme Court.’ ” Of course, now she’d have to update it to add “and without mentioning how Trump’s incompetence and stupidity led to the deaths of 150,000-plus Americans.”

    I’ve never been a Nate Silver hater, but if he keeps up with that stupid shit …

  31. 31.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:35 am

    @evodevo:

    Yes…this is important!  I was looking for muted gold one time, picked color in dim fluorescent light, ended up with …lemon yellow…

    Sincerest condolences. Maybe Narya’s contractor(s) can fix that for you.

  32. 32.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 7:37 am

    @SFAW:

    There were plenty of reasons to vote for Hillary so that was always bunk.

    I’m curious about how many people who support antifa today did not support Queen Antifa in 2016.

  33. 33.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 7:41 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  34. 34.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @raven: Hmmmm… Why do I suddenly feel the urge to write everything in bold?

  36. 36.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @Amir Khalid: I know you’ve tried to help me but I don’t understand this soccer stuff??? Liverpool wins something then gets their asses handed to them the next week??? What a weird structure.

  37. 37.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @Baud:

    There were plenty of reasons to vote for Hillary so that was always bunk.

    I know. That voter reminded me of the SNL “undecided voter” sketch

    I’m curious about how many people who support antifa today did not support Queen Antifa in 2016.

    I did not see that one coming. Nicely done.

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @Narya:

    Yeah ?

    Progress

  39. 39.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @raven: Just noticed the HTML editor huh?

  40. 40.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 7:46 am

    HAMILTON IS ON DISNEY PLUS ?

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:46 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Hmmmm… Why do I suddenly feel the urge to write everything in bold?

    And what about … Naomi?

  42. 42.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 7:47 am

    @rikyrah: I’ll probably watch it tomorrow night.

  43. 43.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 7:47 am

    Good luck, South Dakota.

    No social distancing.

    And fireworks in a tinderbox ??

  44. 44.

    PST

    July 3, 2020 at 7:52 am

    Our fifth wedding anniversary is tomorrow. We were already pretty old when we married (I was 61), so we thought it wise to pick a big holiday in order make it easy to remember even if we grew forgetful. I thought of that this morning when I walked into the kitchen and found my wife unloading the dishwasher. “Now where did I put my coffee?” she asked as she finished. Sure enough, her full cup was in the cupboard with all the clean empty ones. We laughed and laughed, but I think we were right in picking the date.

  45. 45.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:53 am

    @rikyrah:

    And fireworks in a tinderbox ?

    Well, it’s not as if the trees there were doing anything to help Dear Leader get re-elected, so screw ’em.

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 7:54 am

    @PST:

    pick a big holiday in order make it easy to remember even if we grew forgetful.

    There’s a holiday tomorrow?

    More seriously: Happy Anniversary!

  47. 47.

    Sab

    July 3, 2020 at 7:54 am

    @WereBear: I love these. Also the other ones after.

  48. 48.

    Betty Cracker

    July 3, 2020 at 7:56 am

    @SFAW: Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but I think Silver is saying the opposite of what the NPR ninny said four years ago, i.e., that most people don’t NEED a reason to vote for Biden other than that he’s not Trump. The same wasn’t true of Clinton because this is a deeply dumb and sexist country with a crappy media that piled on Clinton for stupid shit while treating Trump’s incoherent demagoguery like an amusing sideshow.

    Silver did that too, to some extent, but he’s less egregious than most, IMO. I don’t think he’s wrong here. Trump is so awful that there’s reason to hope negative partisanship will carry the day, even if many/most Democrats don’t fall in love with Biden or expect daily pony delivery. How that will play out past the election is an open question.

  49. 49.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 7:56 am

    <a href=”https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/texas-masks-coronavirus-covid-battle”>’We don’t live in a communist country!’: battle over masks rages in Texas </a>

    Words fail.

    Link fail: ‘We don’t live in a communist country!’: battle over masks rages in Texas

  50. 50.

    snoey

    July 3, 2020 at 7:57 am

    @raven: Translated to old time baseball they lost the first regular season game after clinching the pennant.

  51. 51.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @PST: Too funny.

  52. 52.

    hueyplong

    July 3, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @Betty Cracker: I read it the same way.

    No matter how many attack ads Trump runs, one thing that will not change is the voters’ perception that Biden is not Trump.

    You could say that there is an exception for the “Biden is senile” ads, but it seems inevitable that Trump will at some point have an incident that makes his own cognitive and neurological failures impossible to ignore.  With months to go he’s already on the defensive as to whether he can read, walk, and drink liquid, and his condition worsens irreversibly, day by day.

  53. 53.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @snoey: So when does the series start?

  54. 54.

    Mo MacArbie

    July 3, 2020 at 8:04 am

    @snoey: Yes, I suspect many of the starters have been returned to the hermetically sealed vault.

  55. 55.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:04 am

    @hueyplong: Mornin Joe ran a great mashup of Trump’s stupid shit.

  56. 56.

    narya

    July 3, 2020 at 8:05 am

    @rikyrah:

    @SFAW:

    @evodevo:

    I’ve done enough crafty stuff to know that full-spectrum (preferably daylight) is the way to go–and my cabinets are “ginger,” so picking the right unobtrusive very very very light peach absolutely requires full sun. It’s actually why I decided against all yellow tiles: I do love yellow, but I was picking the (Fiesta) color w/o being able to see it in person, AND I had only seen the cabinets in person once, and trying to match a light golden brown and a bright yellow seemed like a very bad idea. I actually think I’ll like my alternative (75% lapis blue, 25% bright yellow randomly mixed in) better anyway. I really really like my contractors (in case anyone in Chicago is looking for a contractor). Still two weeks to go (at least), but yeah, progress!

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 8:06 am

    @Betty Cracker: How that will play out past the election is an open question.

    He’ll get blamed for everything, including his inability to get Republicans to join with him in solving anything.

  58. 58.

    Spanky

    July 3, 2020 at 8:06 am

    “Hello, sweetheart!”

    A bald eagle just glided past, up the Patuxent, looking for fish. The air and water are perfectly still at the start of another hot Southern Maryland morning.

    It’s going to be a good day.

  59. 59.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 8:09 am

    @raven: @hueyplong:

    but it seems inevitable that Trump will at some point have an incident that makes his own cognitive and neurological failures impossible to ignore.

    And yet some people have no problem ignoring them.

  60. 60.

    snoey

    July 3, 2020 at 8:10 am

    @raven: There isn’t an equivalent.  There are cups that are contested at the same time as the league.

  61. 61.

    Spanky

    July 3, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @Amir Khalid: The belief system of an extremist of any/every religion is full of baffling contradictions.

  62. 62.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 8:11 am

    Don’t let a 4th of July barbecue be the reason you’re on a ventilator. The hot dog isn’t worth it. Is that really the last memory you want about you on a GoFundMe page?— ᴅᴏʟʟᴀʀ (@callmedollar) July 3, 2020

  63. 63.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 8:12 am

    Tomorrow night join @Women4Biden & @BWay4Biden as @HamiltonMusical's @KrystalJoyBrown live tweets during the premiere of #HamilFilm on DisneyPlus. The revolution begins July 3 at 7pm-don't miss it!! #TeamJoe #BroadwayForBiden #WomenForBiden pic.twitter.com/JTvAFV8Qs4— WomenForBiden (@Women4Biden) July 3, 2020

  64. 64.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 8:13 am

    We've been told repeatedly that there is plenty of testing available–but there most definitely is not. No one in the administration is addressing this. @VP Pence & @SecAzar should be commandeering equipment for the nationwide testing Trump promised in MARCH. It is JULY. https://t.co/1QPf9eNgHm— Victoria Brownworth #NoMaskNoService (@VABVOX) July 3, 2020

  65. 65.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 8:14 am

    Ummmm ???

    Y’all. Why my mama said my grandpa posted a nude of hisself on his Facebook that he meant to send to some woman and now my daddy had to go over to his house and take it down. I’m sksmfmjakakakdkkxjajajsjjdjdjdd— Big Tai (@HoeStopTwatchin) July 3, 2020

  66. 66.

    Aleta

    July 3, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: But the governor said  “face coverings”  and showed us a silky little scrap of flag colors—he can’t be a communist!  Even if he was quaking.

  67. 67.

    hueyplong

    July 3, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @raven: Very glad to know they did that, though the next time I watch Morning Joe will be the first.

  68. 68.

    p.a.

    July 3, 2020 at 8:18 am

    @Amir Khalid: Compare to Talking Heads’ great line, “Heaven is a place, where nothing ever happens…”

    (just broke Fear of Music from the vault a few days ago)

  69. 69.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:19 am

    @hueyplong: Yea well, I use Facebook, read the Times and watch Mornin Joe.

  70. 70.

    gkoutnik

    July 3, 2020 at 8:20 am

    @snoey: Ha!  My son’s company got a skybox for the SF Giants’ opening day after they had won the World Series the previous season.  World Champion pennants, Bumbargtner riding around the outfield on a horse and everything.  Good times.  They lost to the Rockies.

  71. 71.

    Mandarama

    July 3, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @rikyrah: This is the laugh I needed today! It’s the “go help him take it down.” OMG. Thank you! ?

  72. 72.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 3, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @SFAW: 

    Everyone knew her as Nancy?

  73. 73.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 8:23 am

    ???

    In the past 24hrs I've seen more photos of Trump and Ghislaine Maxwell than I've seen of Trump and Tiffany Trump in the past 24 years. pic.twitter.com/l32IaVtZRP— Victoria Brownworth #NoMaskNoService (@VABVOX) July 3, 2020

  74. 74.

    David Evans

    July 3, 2020 at 8:26 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I finished The Wysman, rather late at night because I couldn’t put it down. It’s very congenial. Reminds me a bit of Bujold’s Chalion. The ending was just right. What are you writing now?

  75. 75.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:27 am

    How Trump Could Lose the Election—And Still Remain President |
     

    “The second pathway to subverting the election is even more ominous—but we must be cognizant of it because Trump is already laying the groundwork for how he can lose the popular vote, and even lose in the key swing states necessary for an Electoral College victory, but still remain president.”

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:27 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I agree with your assessment re: what Nate’s saying — it’s approximately the same as mine — and I don’t think Silver was adopting (for lack of a better term) that moron’s viewpoint. And I realize he’s more of a “balls-and-strikes” person than an opiner/pundit. I’m just a little annoyed that he’s giving oxygen to the “people are unenthusiastic about Biden” BS trope. At some level, it’s not too far removed from “Cokie’s Law.” Yeah, I realize I may (or probably?) be over-worrying. I don’t think I’m being a concern troll, at least not intentionally, but I can see how my comment might look that way. [Not saying you were calling me one, just trying to assess my own words.]

    I don’t hate him, not by a long shot. The anti-Silver hatred I’ve sometimes seen here is a little mystifying. But I’m just a tad skittish that the “thought leaders” will end up going down a slippery slope to “yeah, Trump’s terrible, but that Hillary Biden, well I just don’t know.” I don’t want them turning this into a tight race.

  77. 77.

    TS (the original)

    July 3, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @PST:

    so we thought it wise to pick a big holiday in order make it easy to remember even if we grew forgetful.

    We obviously married too young – and do forget the day more often than not.

    It was nice to read some news that had me smiling – have a wonderful anniversary.

  78. 78.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 3, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @raven: Clearly *you* are history’s greatest monster.

  79. 79.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Everyone knew her as Nancy?

    Electric Company/”Love of Chair,” not Firesign/Nick Danger.

  80. 80.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:33 am

    @rikyrah:

    We’ve been told repeatedly that there is plenty of testing available–but there most definitely is not. No one in the administration is addressing this

    I thought I had heard/read somewhere that testing was now in the 500K-per-day range. So at that rate, everyone in the US should be able to get tested … hmmm, carry the 7, divide by X … by 2022. Seems reasonable.

  81. 81.

    Suzanne

    July 3, 2020 at 8:34 am

    @Betty Cracker: I read it same as you.

    You know, if not for the fucking Trump Plague, economic devastation, and cops killing the citizenry…. I would be deeply enjoying this election year.

  82. 82.

    ThresherK

    July 3, 2020 at 8:34 am

    @SFAW: I am reminded of my oft-mentioned NPR anecdote from 2016, to wit: The alleged/self-described Dem voter who said (more-or-less) “Give me a reason to vote for Hillary, but without mentioning ‘Donald Trump’ or ‘the Supreme Court.’ ”

    I didn’t hear this, or read you relating it. But it sounds very NPR: Sixty-odd millions of Hillary voters, and by NPR’s reckoning, each one of them holding their nose and going “Ehhhhhhhh, I guess, if I have to .”

    My favorite NPRism: Their ombud, a few months before the rise of the Tea Party, in a local NPR affiliate interview, saying “We want to appeal to right-wingers without debasing our journalistic output.”

    The delusion that anyone couldd make that Venn diagram of two separate circles intersect was so precious. And it continues to illustrate their raison d’etre.

  83. 83.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:39 am

    @raven:

    How Trump Could Lose the Election—And Still Remain President

    I’ve sometimes been accused of worrying overmuch about stuff like this, but these guys have me beat by the proverbial country mile.

  84. 84.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:40 am

    @SFAW: Yea, careening between “he’s going to resign and he’ll never leave” is exhausting.

  85. 85.

    charluckles

    July 3, 2020 at 8:42 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    This is really aggravating:

    “Mask-wearing soon turned into a partisan squabble between lovers of liberty who hate government mandates and supporters worried about getting sick or infecting others.”

    These people aren’t lovers of liberty who hate government mandates.  They are fascists following the head of their cult over the side of the cliff and threatening to drag us with them.  This has far more to do with the worst leadership this country has ever seen than it does with “freedom.”

  86. 86.

    catclub

    July 3, 2020 at 8:42 am

    @Betty Cracker: there’s reason to hope negative partisanship will carry the day, even if many/most Democrats don’t fall in love with Biden or expect daily pony delivery.

     

    This bodes extremely badly for getting things done once Biden is in office.  I would predict two years and out, like Obama and the House.

  87. 87.

    sanjeevs

    July 3, 2020 at 8:42 am

    @SFAW: See the latest Monmouth poll.

    Biden leads 53 to 41 overall

    40% of voters are very likely to vote Biden, 34% very likely Trump, so both have a roughly equal proportion of very likely voters.

    On favorability, Trump has 22% very favourable 16% somewhat favourable

    Biden has 16% very favourable and 28% somewhat favourable

    The figures seem to bear out Silver

    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_070220/

  88. 88.

    Amir Khalid

    July 3, 2020 at 8:43 am

    @raven:

    Yeah, it happened. The title was already decided because Liverpool were too far ahead on points for anyone to catch. Second-place Manchester City’s loss to Chelsea left them 23 points behind Liverpool with only 21 points to play for. If Liverpool lose all the rest of their matches, and City win all the rest of their matches, City still finish two points behind Liverpool.

  89. 89.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:43 am

    @ThresherK:

    I didn’t hear this, or read you relating it. But it sounds very NPR: Sixty-odd millions of Hillary voters, and by NPR’s reckoning, each one of them holding their nose and going “Ehhhhhhhh, I guess, if I have to .”

    I’m hurt that you don’t hang on my every word.

    The moron in question was one of a few “Democrats” who were interviewed by NPR before and after the DNC convention, to see if their views had changed. The (approximate) quote was uttered after Hillary officially had the nomination. I don’t remember if I yelled “you fucking moron!” at the radio when I heard that, but I sure as hell thought it.

  90. 90.

    hueyplong

    July 3, 2020 at 8:44 am

    @raven: I have never had a Facebook account.  Laziness at first, intentional later.  Also don’t have nyt subscription.

    You’re probably better informed; I apparently spend less of my time pissed off

    We’re both ok with our choices.

  91. 91.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @hueyplong: I just like to tweak the jackals.

  92. 92.

    p.a.

    July 3, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @raven: If someone can introduce into tRump’s calcified gray matter the idea that he can make more $$$ as an ex-pres in 2021 and beyond, he may go without much hoohah.

  93. 93.

    raven

    July 3, 2020 at 8:48 am

    @Amir Khalid: Oh, I get it, they clinched!

  94. 94.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:50 am

    @sanjeevs:

    The figures seem to bear out Silver

    Never said they didn’t. I’m worried about the perception-becomes-reality issue, and whether Silver is (unintentionally) reinforcing the “well, I guess I’ll vote for Biden if I have to” thing. That sentiment (theoretically) leads to lower Dem turnout, especially when the Rethugs are doing what they can to suppress Dem voters.

  95. 95.

    AnotherBruce

    July 3, 2020 at 8:53 am

    @p.a.: My favorite Heads album.

  96. 96.

    Chief Oshkosh

    July 3, 2020 at 8:54 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Fuck Peter Thiel.

    Can’t be said enough.

  97. 97.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 3, 2020 at 8:55 am

    @TS (the original):

    When we got married, my sister embroidered a sampler with the date on it. It’s hanging in our kitchen, and every December, I have to check it to be sure of the date.

  98. 98.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 8:56 am

    @p.a.:

    If someone can introduce into tRump’s calcified gray matter the idea that he can make more $$$ as an ex-pres in 2021 and beyond, he may go without much hoohah.

    Great idea, and the Traitor-/Grifter-in-Chief might just believe it.

  99. 99.

    trnc

    July 3, 2020 at 8:58 am

    Wait, what?

    DeSantis instructed bars, which are allowed to open to half of their usual capacity, to stop selling alcohol as one concession to the surge in coronavirus cases, but the state does not have restrictions on the number of people who can gather in stores and gyms.

    “I have an idea!”

    “What? Close businesses to stop the case surge?”

    “No, no, no! All businesses get to stay open, but they can’t sell their product. High Five!”

    Pause

    “OK, so I have your tickets for the convention next month. You should definitely go.”

  100. 100.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 8:58 am

    ???

    NEW: GOPers–from Trumpers to more establishment types–are buzzing about a Tucker 2024 run.@ltthompso: "he’d be formidable"@RichLowry: "he has an opening"Sam Nunberg: “If Biden wins and Tucker decided to run, he’d be the nominee” https://t.co/0mS1Xgtnbl— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) July 2, 2020

  101. 101.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @gkoutnik:

    They read it this morning.

  102. 102.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    When we got married, my sister embroidered a sampler with the date on it. It’s hanging in our kitchen, and every December, I have to check it to be sure of the date.

    When I was a couple years out of college, I had to remind my friend (who was/is a year older than I) which day his first anniversary was. He thought I was kidding/wrong, until I explained to him how I knew. So you’re doing fine. [As I age, I find that I have to have certain mnemonics/triggers to remind me of various key dates, etc. ]

  103. 103.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @SFAW:  IIRC the going payrate in prison is about $0.21/ hr. I don’t think even trump would go for that.

  104. 104.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 9:03 am

    @rikyrah: Please oh please oh please…..

  105. 105.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:04 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    IIRC the going payrate in prison is about $0.21/ hr. I don’t think even trump would go for that.

    “Hey, Donnie, all those other LOO-ZAHS are making only 15 cents an hour, so you’re kicking their asses!”

    Hey, it could work.

  106. 106.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @PST:

    Happy Fifth! I’ve done similarly dumb things. I think it’s because what I’m doing (emptying dishwasher) is stupid and boring.

  107. 107.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Please oh please oh please…..

    No kidding.

  108. 108.

    leeleeFL

    July 3, 2020 at 9:06 am

    @Amir Khalid: That’s a Euro-Christian wet dream mixed with projection.

  109. 109.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:07 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    and sex

    That’s sinful indulgence? I are confused

  110. 110.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I mean, who knew Trump could be as bad as he’s turned out to be in so many ways? Even people who had endured Trump for decades (like me) could not have known the absolute extent of his awfulness.

    We had fears and worries, but now we know.

  111. 111.

    Nicole

    July 3, 2020 at 9:08 am

    The ad for me at the top of this page is Hobby Lobby, quoting a Bible verse under a picture of the American flag. I laugh, because that was a waste of whatever money they spent. Unless their intention was to remind me how much I hate Hobby Lobby, in which case, Mission accomplished.

  112. 112.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 3, 2020 at 9:09 am

    I am delighted with Biden and enthusiastic to vote for him, but that is moot.  Silver is wildly understating the situation.  The people who don’t like Trump LOATHE him, and we’ve had three years of them turning out in huge waves for the chance to show it.  Now Trump is actually on the ticket.

  113. 113.

    trnc

    July 3, 2020 at 9:11 am

    I think a comment of mine from 10 minutes ago was eaten, but it’s possible I hit “Clear comment” by mistake. Anyway:

    DeSantis instructed bars, which are allowed to open to half of their usual capacity, to stop selling alcohol as one concession to the surge in coronavirus cases, but the state does not have restrictions on the number of people who can gather in stores and gyms.

  114. 114.

    Kay

    July 3, 2020 at 9:11 am

    I will always like Nate Silver for this:

    Nate Silver, the editor in chief of FiveThirtyEight, said The Times’ report showed “the case that the Comey letter — or the media’s handling of the letter — cost Clinton the election is painfully obvious.”

    He did it several times, including in a longer analysis piece. He also went after NY Times reporters on their excessive coverage of the emails directly, on Twitter. He was the first person to call them out directly and back it up by measuring the extent of the excessive coverage, by comparing it to coverage of all other issues in the campaigns- in his typical obsessive fashion, he was on this for several weeks :)

  115. 115.

    Ken

    July 3, 2020 at 9:11 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I keep expecting someone to demonstrate the obvious by defecating in public, perhaps on the statehouse steps, while screaming “FREEDOM!”

    Anyone know any underemployed performance artists?

  116. 116.

    TS (the original)

    July 3, 2020 at 9:12 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    When our daughter was young we met a couple who shared our anniversary (also in December) For the next few years, we celebrated together & then they moved interstate. That seemed to be the end of remembering.

  117. 117.

    Kattails

    July 3, 2020 at 9:13 am

    @raven: I think the goal needs to be to make his life in office so miserable that he’s happy to let go of the job. He never wanted that anyway, just the glamor, so make it unglamorous, dirty, make him long for the good old days of hanging out in Trump Tower.

    But I did read that article and it is rather scary. Good info to keep pounding home to voters.

  118. 118.

    rikyrah

    July 3, 2020 at 9:14 am

    @PST:

    Happy Anniversary ??❤️

  119. 119.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:15 am

    @rikyrah:

    I want to punch the radio every time I hear some idiot saying the higher numbers are because of all the testing. BULLSHIT. The numbers have always been high; we just didn’t know it because THERE WAS NO TESTING.

    (bold removed)

  120. 120.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:16 am

    @debbie:

    I was always appalled by the “McConnell and Ryan will rein in his worst actions/impulses” idiocy.

    I confess he has gone far beyond what I thought he could/would do, but that’s only because of my lack of imagination, i.e., I didn’t think/conceive of some of the areas where he plowed a path of destruction, I never thought he wouldn’t.

  121. 121.

    Nicole

    July 3, 2020 at 9:17 am

    @rikyrah: Oh my God, I clicked over to read that Twitter feed, and that was absolutely hilarious. Thank you for posting.

  122. 122.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 9:19 am

    @catclub:

    Yep. Nothing to do except cross that bridge when we come to it.

  123. 123.

    Baud

    July 3, 2020 at 9:20 am

    @debbie:

    I expected global thermonuclear war, so I’ve been pleasantly surprised by Trump.

  124. 124.

    Capri

    July 3, 2020 at 9:21 am

    Tucker Carlson 2024 ?  Oh please God make it so

  125. 125.

    Exregis

    July 3, 2020 at 9:22 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

    Guess which one is first.

  126. 126.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:26 am

    @SFAW:

    Looking back, I should have realized it after he made that elevator escalator speech. Instead, I thought it proved he would never win.  ??‍♀️

  127. 127.

    Mike in NC

    July 3, 2020 at 9:27 am

    As long as I’ve lived south of the Mason-Dixon Line — over 30 years — I’ve heard many people state some variation of “the Civil War never ended” and they had a valid point. Now we have a chance to rid ourselves of a disgusting malignant narcissist who’s also a white supremacist. Fat Bastard needs to be made the last president of the damned Confederacy.

  128. 128.

    Aleta

    July 3, 2020 at 9:28 am

    Today’s the day that Woodman’s in Essex MA claims the right to  celebrate that it invented the fried clam.

    eta  I mean “Woodman’s OF Essex”

    a deep fry joint needs cachet you know

  129. 129.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @SFAW: You’re right. He just might go for that after all.

  130. 130.

    Steeplejack

    July 3, 2020 at 9:30 am

    @PST:

    Happy anniversary! ???

  131. 131.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 3, 2020 at 9:30 am

    @WereBear: Republicans see every crisis as a marketing challenge an opportunity to separate credulous, poorly informed not-rich people (and the governments that ought to be looking out for their welfare) from their cash & fork it over to the Global Oligarchy’s richer-than-Croesus members.

    FTFY. :^(

  132. 132.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 9:32 am

    @Ken:underemployed performance artists

    Redundant.

  133. 133.

    Suzy

    July 3, 2020 at 9:34 am

    @debbie: It seems to me that there has been a REAL SPIKE of infections. Because almost all states reopened too soon.

  134. 134.

    Aleta

    July 3, 2020 at 9:36 am

    @Kay:  I  remember that well.    Oddly didn’t noticeably penetrate the fortress-like skull of the NYT.

  135. 135.

    Jinchi

    July 3, 2020 at 9:36 am

    @SFAW: I’ve never been a Nate Silver hater, but if he keeps up with that stupid shit`

    Nate was smacking down nonsensical hot takes like this one from CNN

    Why Trump’s enthusiasm edge over Biden could matter

    Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Donald Trump in pretty much every single national poll. Yet the same polls find that Trump’s supporters are much more enthusiastic

    This is supposed to be a problem for Biden.

    The Trump campaign is clearly trying to get the media to hype the enthusiasm angle, rather than the obvious takeaway that this election is all about Trump and most Americans hate him.

  136. 136.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:38 am

    @debbie:

    Looking back, I should have realized it after he made that elevator escalator speech. Instead, I thought it proved he would never win.

    For a not-brief-enough period during the campaign, I held out the “hope” (a/k/a delusion) that he would get to the RNC convention, and during his acceptance speech, would say “I did this just to show what morally repugnant assholes you all are.” In other words, trolling the entire Rethug Partei. When I mentioned this fantasy to my New York-living brother, he quickly disabused me of that idea, saying “No, he’s just an asshole.”

  137. 137.

    Aleta

    July 3, 2020 at 9:38 am

    @PST:  Congratulations!  ?

  138. 138.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @Suzy:

    As angry as that makes me, I’m even angrier that the really effective Medical/Health Directors have all been forced out of office. I consider mine (Amy Acton) to have been the best, but the assholes parading with their AR-15s on her front lawn proved to be too much for her.

  139. 139.

    SFAW

    July 3, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @Jinchi:

    The Trump campaign is clearly trying to get the media to hype the enthusiasm angle,

    Yeah. And when that doesn’t pan out, they’ll try to move the conversation to some other “hot take.”

  140. 140.

    The Moar You Know

    July 3, 2020 at 9:41 am

    I will never understand those who preach that a Muslim’s reward for a godly life of refraining from sinful indulgence shall be an eternity of free booze and sex.

    @Amir Khalid:  that does seem odd.

    Let me inform those folks that, as a guy who didn’t really refrain from anything for a couple of decades as a working musician, that an eternity of free booze and sex just sounds frankly exhausting and more than a bit repetitive.

    Me, I’m thinking heaven will be a gigantic library consisting of every book ever written, me not needing reading glasses, and all of them being comprehensible to me in their native languages.  Throw in good coffee and a nice ribeye steak every night and I’m good to go for a few millennia at least

    And my pets, of course.  My dog, my cats.  A decent blanket we can all hang out on.  Yep, good to go.

  141. 141.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 3, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @Jinchi: If four people out of ten choose to get Trump’s face tattooed on their asses while six out of ten are happy to vote for Biden, Biden still wins. Once a person is enthusiastic enough that they are sure to vote, excess enthusiasm doesn’t matter.

  142. 142.

    Ken

    July 3, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @debbie: How do the idjits who claim it’s due to more testing explain the number of hospitalizations? Or do they bother?

  143. 143.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:44 am

    @SFAW:

    I’m with your brother on that one! That dry-iced entrance of his to make his acceptance speech said it all.

  144. 144.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:44 am

    @Ken:

    They don’t. They can’t.

  145. 145.

    Aleta

    July 3, 2020 at 9:45 am

    Speaking of the NYT, wow what a headline on its site page.

    Bounties Uproar Casts a Shadow Over a Rare Trump Foreign Policy Achievement

  146. 146.

    debbie

    July 3, 2020 at 9:50 am

    @Aleta:

    Not clicking, but I can’t imagine what the “achievement” is, other than burrowing up Putin’s ass further than anyone could have imagined possible.

  147. 147.

    tom

    July 3, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @Baud: There’s still time.

  148. 148.

    Barbara

    July 3, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @Jinchi: I don’t see how Parscale hyping enthusiasm is a good strategy for anything except, possibly, keeping the money spigot turned on. When I am reminded of Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters, that just amps up my determination to do everything possible to remove Trump root and branch.

  149. 149.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 9:54 am

    @The Moar You Know: As someone who last night got 5 1/2 hours of uninterrupted sleep for the first time in…. decades(?), heaven to me would be a nice long nap.

  150. 150.

    The Moar You Know

    July 3, 2020 at 9:54 am

    NEW: GOPers–from Trumpers to more establishment types–are buzzing about a Tucker 2024 run.@ltthompso: “he’d be formidable”@RichLowry: “he has an opening”Sam Nunberg: “If Biden wins and Tucker decided to run, he’d be the nominee” https://t.co/0mS1Xgtnbl— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) July 2, 2020

    @rikyrah:  God doesn’t love me enough for that to happen.  He’s the very worst sort of rich kid; snobby, only the BEST schooling, and a fucking coward to boot.  Anyone with any moxie would destroy him in a debate.

    If he’s stupid enough to run, call me, I know a crapload of his former classmates and we have enough on that guy just from his year in San Diego to ruin his life.  I’m serious.

  151. 151.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @Ken: But the death rate is going down!

    Tune in next week to see what they come up with next.

  152. 152.

    MomSense

    July 3, 2020 at 9:59 am

    @PST:

    That is the sweetest little love story.  ❤️

  153. 153.

    narya

    July 3, 2020 at 10:02 am

    Nate Silver is the reason I was anxious on Election Day. He said that the monster’s chances were about the same as a pro football kicker missing a field goal from (some not-crazy-range) yards, and I had JUST seen that the previous weekend. (I don’t like or watch football, but a friend was here watching a game.) And I thought, uh-oh.

  154. 154.

    Barbara

    July 3, 2020 at 10:02 am

    @rikyrah: They don’t seem to have learned much from watching the presidential edition of reality tv. All I can think is that these people just don’t know what it means to have a serious job, where you are accountable for consequences. They just want to be reassured that the people who share their world view are still in power.

  155. 155.

    The Moar You Know

    July 3, 2020 at 10:02 am

    As someone who last night got 5 1/2 hours of uninterrupted sleep for the first time in…. decades(?), heaven to me would be a nice long nap.

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yeah, we should definitely throw that in as well.  I hit fifty a couple years back and I started having sleep issues, not major but annoying, and then with the COVID thing I’m not sleeping worth a shit these days.

    OK, God, feature request:  Multiple long naps in heaven.

  156. 156.

    MomSense

    July 3, 2020 at 10:07 am

    @Kay:

    Yup, I love Nate.  He also took over my fantasy football slot when I decided I just didn’t have the time.  I think the others missed me for the easy win.

  157. 157.

    laura

    July 3, 2020 at 10:08 am

    @rikyrah: A bittersweet tale of a Lion in winter. The crossroads of loneliness, technology and family matters. Exit Playa One, enter lockdown for life. Dreams, desire, connection just a few taps on the keyboard and then it was all just too much -way too much. I hope after they force him into their home they work on getting grandpa a boo.

  158. 158.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 3, 2020 at 10:10 am

    @The Moar You Know: I take melatonin. I still wake up several times a night but I can usually fall back to sleep. I can always tell when I have forgotten to take it: I can’t fall back to sleep and there is no point in even trying.

    YMMV.

  159. 159.

    Ladyraxterinok

    July 3, 2020 at 10:17 am

    @debbie:

    When I was a little kid, mom put coffee in fridge and put cream and sugar in the root beer. She drank lots of iced coffee!

  160. 160.

    Emma from FL

    July 3, 2020 at 10:19 am

    @raven: And states like California and New York would stop sending taxes to an illegal regime and we would have ourselves a nice civil war.

  161. 161.

    Jinchi

    July 3, 2020 at 10:33 am

    @Barbara: I don’t see how Parscale hyping enthusiasm is a good strategy for anything except, possibly, keeping the money spigot turned on.

    I think you’ve got it figured out. Parscale just bragged about raising over $900 million dollars and spending over $600 million of it. $40 million went into his own pocket.

    Let’s hope the grifters surrounding Trump strip him to the bone before he does the same to the rest of us.

  162. 162.

    Geminid

    July 3, 2020 at 10:34 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I get good results from the Kroger’s equivalent of advil PM. Besides the NSAID, there’s a little anti-histamine to settle the brain down some.

  163. 163.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 3, 2020 at 11:23 am

    – best towing capacity in class

    Huh?  (watches ad) Hahaha, well done.

  164. 164.

    WaterGirl

    July 3, 2020 at 11:24 am

    @trnc: Not sure what happened, but you were in SPAM.  I just released you.

  165. 165.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 3, 2020 at 11:29 am

    @gkoutnik: Thanks for the reminder (and also the reminder that nutjobs will be yelling at NPR about treason on Twitter tomorrow.)

  166. 166.

    dopey-o

    July 3, 2020 at 11:39 am

    @Baud: Seniors: One Weird Trick Gets You Into Heaven!

  167. 167.

    trnc

    July 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thanks, WG.

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