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Monday Morning Open Thread: Brah, Do You Even TikTok?…

by Anne Laurie|  July 6, 20205:58 am| 132 Comments

This post is in: Biden For President, Open Threads

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trump memorial cell phone - Tough Town

(Tough Town via GoComics.com)

Full credit to Mr. Swalwell for his sense of humor:

I’m running for President. Wait. I tried that and it didn’t end well. Take two: I’m voting for @JoeBiden to end this national nightmare. You with me?

— Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) July 5, 2020

Add "Sleepy Joe" to the list of failed Trump brands. https://t.co/2Pnt2HwRRm

— Daily Trix (@DailyTrix) July 3, 2020

People spend a lot of time thinking about how Biden’s poll lead could shrink and not very much thinking about the obvious reasons it may keep getting wider. https://t.co/ThrcN22tYV

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 3, 2020

the truth is that meme magic doesn’t exist. trump won because of racist boomers, not because of 4chan. if the trumps online fans were his actual base of support they’d be no more successful at getting him elected than they were at keeping women and black people out of video games https://t.co/hXAdspvidh

— The Online-Normie Complex (@canderaid) July 4, 2020

Seriously, the other candidates trampled over each other trying to out-radical Bernie to cut into his extremely online followers, and only Biden understood that Democratic primary voters were normal people who spent most of their days terrified of Trump.

— Tentin Quarantino (@agraybee) July 4, 2020

Aw, I'm sure Joe will be devastated. https://t.co/9F7yjESQKz

— Jeff Fecke (@jkfecke) July 4, 2020

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  1. 1.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 6:15 am

    Gonna get hot this week. Blech.

  2. 2.

    Derelict

    July 6, 2020 at 6:20 am

    The covic crisis is only going in one direction: from disastrous to catastrophic. Because conservatives decided long ago that experts are evil and knowledge is to be avoided, the response to the crisis will continue to be a mix of magical thinking, avoidance, and general flailing while trying to cover up the terrible numbers as much as possible.

     

    Sadly, I think we could easily see 1 million Americans die from this. And that still wouldn’t make the Orange Pustule do anything more than what he’s doing right now.

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 6:25 am

    Ennio Morricone, Oscar-winning Italian film composer, dies aged 91

    RIP

  4. 4.

    Chyron HR

    July 6, 2020 at 6:35 am

    BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: President Trump is planning to “skip the inauguration” 2A himself in the White House bunker by 9 PM Tuesday night if Biden wins.

  5. 5.

    rikyrah

    July 6, 2020 at 6:40 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  6. 6.

    Geoduck

    July 6, 2020 at 6:48 am

    @Chyron HR: Everyone predicts that the Shiatgibbon will barricade himself in the White House, but he’s ultimate a lazy coward, and I say that he’ll just jet off to Mar A Lago and sulk for the rest of his term. It’s Moscow Mitch and Barr who will actively burn everything down that they can.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    July 6, 2020 at 6:49 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    RIP????

  8. 8.

    prostratedragon

    July 6, 2020 at 6:50 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    And a great thank you.

    Suite from The Mission, live, conducted by Ennio Morricone

  9. 9.

    Cermet

    July 6, 2020 at 6:52 am

    Conservatives didn’t deny science because they are innately anti-science (or really believe science is evil – hell, they love its fruits like nukes, chemical weapons, advanced missles, etc) but because big companies pay them to deny scientific fact. The mouth beathers simply follow their masters like dogs since they are too stupid to know any better; besides racist always are stupid, ignorent people – its required.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    July 6, 2020 at 6:53 am

    “Every death is a policy failure.”

     

     

    I know that’s right ??

  11. 11.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    July 6, 2020 at 6:55 am

    Joe Biden’s campaign is trying to develop a social media force that can compete with President Trump’s well-established digital “army” of meme makers and political influencers. It won’t be easy. http://apne.ws/A1LxXXl

    You mean like those K-Pop kids who are screwing with the Trump campaign list?

  12. 12.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    July 6, 2020 at 6:56 am

    @Cermet: It’s even more basic than that; their preachers want them anti science for the donations.

  13. 13.

    blacque_jacques

    July 6, 2020 at 6:58 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: noff shmozz k-pop!

  14. 14.

    Barney

    July 6, 2020 at 7:04 am

    President Trump is planning to “skip the inauguration country” if Biden wins. Before he has to skip bail.

  15. 15.

    dogwood

    July 6, 2020 at 7:07 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    R.I.P. indeed!  The Cinema Paradiso score is among my very favorites.

  16. 16.

    Uncle Jeffy

    July 6, 2020 at 7:10 am

    He’s going to skip the inauguration to avoid the mobs of process servers.

  17. 17.

    Suzanne

    July 6, 2020 at 7:11 am

    @Geoduck: I agree with you. This dude hates being president. I think he’ll be sad that he lost, but ultimately will zip-a-dee-doo-dah out of there and go back to his gold toilets and we’ll-done steaks. But he knows that he has to sound like a badass now.

    His campaign is going so badly that I legit don’t think he wants to win.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 7:13 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  19. 19.

    JPL

    July 6, 2020 at 7:13 am

    trump will go to the inauguration and make it all about him.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 7:15 am

    Hillary showed up to the inauguration for the sake of the country, and she had much more cause to avoid it.

    That said, I agree that everything is better when Trump is absent.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 7:18 am

    If Trump did show up, however, I might allow an exception to the “no chokehold” policy for 12:01 pm on Inauguration Day.

  22. 22.

    debbie

    July 6, 2020 at 7:20 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Even the lousy movies were worth seeing just for his scores.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 7:20 am

    Also, too, I like the post title.  You’ve been on fire lately, AL.

  24. 24.

    low-tech cyclist

    July 6, 2020 at 7:24 am

    twitter.com/KFILE/status/1279814287578537986

    Ted Cruz: “Dems support the riots. The vandals. The anarchists. That’s their base. And they’re terrified to offend them.”

    andrew kaczynski: “I’m not a political scientist, but I’m pretty sure if anarchists were the Democrats base the nominee wouldn’t be Joe Biden.”

  25. 25.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 7:25 am

    BTW, if you read the AP story, you’ll see that its headline is wrong.  Biden has not adopted a strategy of trying to out-compete Trump on social media.  He’s smartly not trying to win on Trump’s battleground, but on his on.

  26. 26.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    July 6, 2020 at 7:28 am

    @Baud:

    He’s smartly not trying to win on Trump’s battleground, but on his on.

    Yup, fire up the Victrola.

  27. 27.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 7:30 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Let’s dance to Glenn Miller.

  28. 28.

    satby

    July 6, 2020 at 7:30 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: It’s been hot here for days, and it won’t break back into the mid-80s until the weekend, then 90s again for another week. Right now no rain predicted almost until the end of the month, which to me is even worse than the heat.

  29. 29.

    blacque_jacques

    July 6, 2020 at 7:30 am

    I would love Biden, after taking the Oath Of Office, to turn around and hand Trump a sheaf of paper, saying, “you are hereby served”.

  30. 30.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 7:30 am

    @debbie: “Where to even begin with iconic composer Ennio Morricone? He could make an average movie into a must see, a good movie into art, and a great movie into legend. He hasn’t been off my stereo my entire life. What a legacy of work he leaves behind. RIP.”

    -Edgar Wright, British film director

  31. 31.

    low-tech cyclist

    July 6, 2020 at 7:32 am

    BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: President Trump is planning to “skip the inauguration” if Biden wins

    I think they misspelled ‘country.’  He’ll want to be safe from prosecution.

  32. 32.

    prostratedragon

    July 6, 2020 at 7:32 am

    @Baud:  Only about 17.126 million seconds to go.

  33. 33.

    debbie

    July 6, 2020 at 7:34 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    ?

    The movie was just about unwatchable, but the score for The Mission stuck with me for weeks.

  34. 34.

    satby

    July 6, 2020 at 7:34 am

    And passing away at 91 can be sad, but dying of covid at 41, with a wife and new baby, is tragic.

  35. 35.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 7:35 am

    @Suzanne:

    This dude hates being president.

    Slight disagreement: he hates doing the work required of a president, but he loves having the (relatively) unfettered* power a president has.

    *Were the Senate majority not a bunch of traitors, his power would have been reined in a bit more.

  36. 36.

    debbie

    July 6, 2020 at 7:36 am

    @prostratedragon:

    Missed your post in my initial scroll.  I practically wore out the cassette tape I bought of this. If only the movie had been worthy of it!

  37. 37.

    prostratedragon

    July 6, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @debbie:
    Actually I liked the movie, though not as much as the score it must be said. A favorite moment: Mendonca struggles up the cliff dragging his whole suit of armor in penance for having done in his brother, and bursts into tears at the top; the Guarani laugh uproariously.

  38. 38.

    debbie

    July 6, 2020 at 7:51 am

    @prostratedragon:

    I just couldn’t buy DeNiro as a conquistador.

  39. 39.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    July 6, 2020 at 7:55 am

    @Geoduck: and I say that he’ll just jet off to Mar A Lago and sulk for the rest of his term. It’s Moscow Mitch and Barr who will actively burn everything down that they can.

    I will add that Trump will bail for Mar A Lago in late October if not sooner if it’s clear Biden will win. Turtle has no reason to burn shit down since Biden was a Senator and all that, but Barr will because this is Barr’s last chance to establish a monarchy.

  40. 40.

    Highway Rob

    July 6, 2020 at 8:02 am

    @blacque_jacques:

    “you are hereby served”

    A presidential dance-off? …nah, can’t picture it, not with these two, not without some highly illegal assistance.

    But since I’m imagining now and I’m still in the delusional pre-coffee stage of my morning, I’d bet my house and your house on Diamond Joe Biden in an old-school drag race.

  41. 41.

    Chyron HR

    July 6, 2020 at 8:06 am

    @Geoduck:

    I don’t think I said “barricade”.

  42. 42.

    John S.

    July 6, 2020 at 8:07 am

    @Baud: Jukebox Saturday Night!

  43. 43.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @Highway Rob:

    I’d bet my house and your house on Diamond Joe Biden in an old-school drag race.

    Would the Traitor-in-Chief have Rudy as his stand-in for a drag race? Plus, I can’t picture Biden in high heels

    ETA: And I sure as shit have a tough enough time seeing the disgusting Murderer-in-Chief in a suit, never mind a plus-plus-plus-size muumuu.

  44. 44.

    Jeffery

    July 6, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:   I think it is going to be very hot for the next two months.

  45. 45.

    narya

    July 6, 2020 at 8:10 am

    Kitchen update! Not much news–the floor guy gets here in a half hour–but some observations. The induction burner turned out to be a great purchase; I can (for example) sear something, rather than microwaving everything. Washing pans in the bathroom sink isn’t fun, but I didn’t expect it would be. Compostable plates help, for sure. All of the prep cooking I did–basically a ton of beans and grains, packaged in little containers–has definitely paid off; I can add bits from the farm share to change things up, and I did cook several different kinds of beans, so it’s not exactly the same every day. Appliances are scheduled for next Monday, and there’s a good chance the cabinets will be installed by then. Today is going to be miserably hot, and, thanks to Floor Guy, will also be dusty AND smelly, but whatevs.

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @narya:

    You may have already posted some, but: are we going to get photos of the completed kitchen, so we can drool (or at least murmur appreciation)?

    ETA: Clarification: yes, I realize that any photos thus far would have been in-progress.

  47. 47.

    Danielx

    July 6, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @blacque_jacques:

    Keep spray paint away from Trump as Inauguration Day closes in, lest he start tagging the Oval Office.

    The traditional letter from the outgoing president to the incoming will probably consist of “FUCK YOU!” written on a desk calendar. With a Sharpie, of course.

  48. 48.

    Highway Rob

    July 6, 2020 at 8:16 am

    @SFAW: Interesting take. Suggests a novel re-imagining of the “chickie run”* scene from Rebel Without a Cause.

    (*-Had to google it.)

  49. 49.

    Immanentize

    July 6, 2020 at 8:18 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The Danish National Orchestra playing Morricone’s score from

     The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

    I love this production so much — wait for the blond soprano. Chills.

  50. 50.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:18 am

    @Danielx:

    Who’s going to write it for him? His teeny-tiny hands won’t fit around a Sharpie (well, maybe if he uses both hands, a la the water glass thing), and I’m thinking he might not be able to spell correctly.

  51. 51.

    rikyrah

    July 6, 2020 at 8:19 am

    With all the bad COVID-19 news coming out of Florida, Texas and Arizona, why don’t we hear about those Governors calling in the Army Corps of Engineers to build hospitals at their professional sports arenas and convention centers. Why aren’t they on tv asking medical personnel to come to their state and help??

  52. 52.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 8:19 am

    @Jeffery: It all depends on the hurricanes for us here. If it’s active It’ll keep things stirred up enough to pull some cold fronts our way.

  53. 53.

    JPL

    July 6, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @narya: It does appear to be going smoothly, and it is always fun to read the updates.   I hope that you took lots of pics that you can send in.

  54. 54.

    Danielx

    July 6, 2020 at 8:22 am

    @SFAW:

    Trust me, if there are two words Donald the Deranged can scrawl correctly, it’s those two.

  55. 55.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @Danielx:

    Fair point

    ETA: For some reason, your reply triggered an out-of-left-field thought: When Kayleeeee MacInane-y said that the Moron-in-Chief was the “most informed person on earth,” someone should have responded “maybe he’s been GIVEN the most information, but it’s clear he either didn’t understand or didn’t retain 99 percent of the stuff that didn’t tell him how great he is.”

  56. 56.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 6, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @Danielx:

    We’ll be lucky if he doesn’t steal the desk.

  57. 57.

    cmorenc

    July 6, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Turtle has no reason to burn shit down since Biden was a Senator and all that, but Barr will because this is Barr’s last chance to establish a monarchy.

    Barr isn’t after a monarchy so much as to permanently embed a conservative theocracy in the federal government, a synthesis of true believers of Christian / Catholic evangelicism and free-market glibertarians, while also permanently building in formidable structural obstacles to the ability of the opposition Democrats ever being able to effectively retake control through elections.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    We’ll be lucky if he doesn’t steal the desk.

    It would have to be renamed “the Dissolute Desk” if he did.

  59. 59.

    eclare

    July 6, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @satby: Yeah, I have been following his wife’s near daily posts.  What the virus did to him over three months in the ICU was unreal.  Tragic.

  60. 60.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:32 am

    @cmorenc:

    permanently building in structural obstacles to the ability of the opposition Democrats ever being able to effectively retake control through electios.

    He might want that, but I don’t see how he can make it happen. I would think — well, “hope,” I guess — that anything he did along those lines could be undone by AG Harris or President Biden.

  61. 61.

    Amir Khalid

    July 6, 2020 at 8:38 am

    Testing, one two three.

  62. 62.

    Ken

    July 6, 2020 at 8:39 am

    @SFAW: Agreed they should undo it, but can they first abuse the new powers to send Barr to an undisclosed overseas prison?

  63. 63.

    Baud

    July 6, 2020 at 8:41 am

    @Ken: Let’s call it a “transition period.”

  64. 64.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 8:45 am

    @Highway Rob: But since I’m imagining now and I’m still in the delusional pre-coffee stage of my morning, I’d bet my house and your house on Diamond Joe Biden in an old-school drag race.

    Does that mean that if Joe loses you swap houses?

    A presidential dance-off? …nah, can’t picture it, not with these two, not without some highly illegal assistance.

    Trump says Biden is too low-energy to break dance in lieu of a debate.  Sad…

  65. 65.

    Barbara

    July 6, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: I would be willing to start a book on how soon Trump will turn to daily golfing.  I say he will start golfing daily the Saturday before Election Day, in Florida, but find time to fit in rallies in Florida and Georgia over the next two days.

    It’s Barr, Kushner, Pompeo, and Meadows who are going to be running the shredders 24/7 between November and January.

  66. 66.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @Ken:

    to send Barr to an undisclosed overseas prison?

    The “brain” is a funny thing: I first read that as “undersea prison.”

  67. 67.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 8:48 am

    @SFAW:

    to send Barr to an undisclosed overseas prison?

    The “brain” is a funny thing: I first read that as “undersea prison.”

    Make it so.

  68. 68.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 6, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @Cermet: I’ve thought this for a while. Few people will literally tell you they’re against science as a process; there was a faction in the Sixties New Left who were like that, and some extreme right-traditionalists, and some hard-to-classify cranks like Michael Crichton, who seemed to drift rightward as he went on.

    Instead, what people usually insist is that science is good but has become corrupted or perverted somehow, and their people have the real science. On the right, there’s sometimes a literal opposition of science and engineering–this idea that technologists don’t need professional scientists any more, and engineers are somehow now the real scientists. The main problem being that scientists are the Debbie Downers telling them that there are negative consequences to the technology they like, or that there are physical limits to the operation of the Will.

    Obviously, there’s profit to be had in this opposition.

    (The older opposition was more about equating science and technology: science was what made it possible to build terrible weapons and polluting industries. It was a line that was very current in the post-WWII period for a lot of obvious reasons.)

  69. 69.

    Barbara

    July 6, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @cmorenc: It’s true.  Barr believes in freedom of religion so long as his religion comes out on top, with a permanent institutional advantage in writing all kinds of rules.  What’s interesting to me is the extent to which he can bring along others as “corporate America,” i.e., the people who actually fund this enterprise, stop caring about sexual ethics.  We saw this with the Title VII decision that granted protection to gay and transgendered persons.  The religious wackos have been getting sloppy seconds from the Federalist Society and other like minded groups for a while now.  It’s not clear to me that they will be satisfied with eating scraps from the garbage.

  70. 70.

    prostratedragon

    July 6, 2020 at 8:50 am

    @SFAW:  Mere haste, or wishful thinking?

  71. 71.

    Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)

    July 6, 2020 at 8:56 am

    @Suzanne:  I don’t agree.  He doesn’t want the job, true, but he never wanted the actual job.  He just wanted to be called “President” on TV.  To lose that, and to lose it to Barack Obama’s VP, would enrage him.  The bad poll numbers already are enraging him.

    Don’t he fooled by those moments when he looks to be on the verge of giving up.  He always cycles back to angry and entitled, and rejects the source of the discouraging information.  It’s who he is — he won’t stop.

    He’s a typical abusive asshole.  He doesn’t love it, but he possesses it, and he’s damned if he’ll let it go.

  72. 72.

    Just One More Canuck

    July 6, 2020 at 8:56 am

    @SFAW: Canada has a lot of uninhabited islands in the Arctic we could be persuaded to let you use to exile Trump, Barr, et al.  Let’s talk

  73. 73.

    Danielx

    July 6, 2020 at 8:59 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Shhhh! Not supposed to tell!

    In all seriousness, if Biden wins (knocking on every piece of wood in reach) all the surreal scenes and statements we have seen and heard so far will pale by comparison with what happens between Election Day and Inauguration Day. There will be a nonstop scream of rage and bile for two months.

  74. 74.

    Ken

    July 6, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @Baud: @SFAW: “Honest mistakes were made by my overly-enthusiastic supporters during the transition period. I am therefore issuing a blanket pardon to all involved, conditional on their revealing the location of Mr. Barr and the others.”

    “P.S. Please stop sending the ‘clues’, we are not in a bad horror movie.”

  75. 75.

    Betty Cracker

    July 6, 2020 at 9:00 am

    Tweet-quote above:

    Seriously, the other candidates trampled over each other trying to out-radical Bernie to cut into his extremely online followers, and only Biden understood that Democratic primary voters were normal people who spent most of their days terrified of Trump.

    That’s mostly hot garbage, and I’m glad there are signs that the Biden campaign doesn’t buy it, even though it’s flattering to themselves. Yes, people are terrified of Trump and rightly so, and that undeniably gave Biden an edge. But to dismiss the other candidates as Bernie wannabes is bullshit, as is imagining that voters don’t want significant change. Biden and his team seem to get that, even if his more self-congratulatory supporters do not. Thank dog for that. 

  76. 76.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @prostratedragon: The brain is a funny thing, as SFAW said.  If you’re reading and the letters in the middle of a word are scrambled, but the first and last letters are as intended, you’re still likely to recognize the word.  This may even pass unnoticed.  A similar process may have allowed for SFAW’s delightful error.

  77. 77.

    narya

    July 6, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @SFAW: @JPL:  I’ve actually been good about taking a picture or two every day! Some days there isn’t much to actually show (like the difference between drywall going up and drywall taped and painted is . . . visible in person but less impressive in a photo). I have an old blog still active; I can post all of the pics there, or here, whichever is easier. I am now trying to pick out a couple of shelves–I am not replacing the cabinets closest to the window, partly to get more light into the kitchen and partly because I want to hang shelves, with hooks on the bottom for pots & pans. I was going to do a peg board, but then I saw some video of Tom Colicchio’s kitchen (of all dumb things) and I realized that shelves would actually work better.

  78. 78.

    Sloane Ranger

    July 6, 2020 at 9:07 am

    When I read that Trump planned to “skip the inauguration” if Biden won, my immediate thought was he planned not to hold one and go on pretending to be President.

    Which raises the question of who is responsible for organising Presidential inaugurations, the outgoing administration, the incoming administration or some arm of the civil service?

    Also, I understand that, while the tradition is for the Chief Justice to administer the oath at a ceremony in Washington, this is not a legal requirement and the oath can actually be administered by any Justice of the Peace, anywhere in the country. Is this right?

  79. 79.

    JPL

    July 6, 2020 at 9:10 am

    The president is now attacking Bubba Watson and Nascar   After all why not defend the confederate flag instead

    Has
    @BubbaWallace
    apologized to all of those great NASCAR drivers & officials who came to his aid, stood by his side, & were willing to sacrifice everything for him, only to find out that the whole thing was just another HOAX? That & Flag decision has caused lowest ratings EVER!

  80. 80.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 9:11 am

    @Betty Cracker: That’s mostly hot garbage

    You’re right.  It’s like the guy didn’t pay any attention to the primary at all.  But there’s a narrative and he’s sticking to it.  Somebody get this guy a job at the NYT.

    and I’m glad there are signs that the Biden campaign doesn’t buy it

    Also, too, this

  81. 81.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 9:13 am

    @Just One More Canuck: Canada never did anything to us, why should they pay for Russia’s meddling? Russia has plenty of uninhabited arctic isles too.

  82. 82.

    Barbara

    July 6, 2020 at 9:14 am

    David, if you are still reading, this came across my desk after an especially heated discussion among various parties on a health law forum:  Pennsylvania guidance for allocating scarce resources that take structural disadvantage into account, e.g., being an essential worker or a similar situation that restricts the opportunity to successfully engage in social distancing.  Source

    This makes a lot of sense to me.  For instance, I have no difficulty working remotely, and even though I do observe distancing and wear masks, anytime I leave my house I am, essentially voluntarily assuming a certain level of risk.  I think that can be legitimately viewed as an objective ethical distinction in allocating scarce resources should I become sick, versus a grocery store worker or someone living in a multi-generational living situation.

    If you are interested in some of the issues that were bandied back and forth I can cut and paste for you.

  83. 83.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 9:15 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Canada never did anything to us, why should they pay for Russia’s meddling? Russia has plenty of uninhabited arctic isles too.

    Think of it as entrusting our good friend and neighbor with a great responsibility.  And if they want to use that opportunity to put Trump in stockades and let tourists throw eggs at him, fine.

  84. 84.

    Barbara

    July 6, 2020 at 9:20 am

    @Sloane Ranger: While I never discount any catastrophic outcome to zero, who knows for sure, Trump hates Washington D.C. He would have stayed in New York City if he could have gotten away with it.  Now, he simply cannot wait to have an excuse to spend all of his time in Florida.  When all is said and done, his comfort and ego count for much more than the fever dreams of his followers and hangers on.

  85. 85.

    JPL

    July 6, 2020 at 9:21 am

    @Barbara: Interesting.   Copy and paste it on David’s post.

  86. 86.

    JPL

    July 6, 2020 at 9:23 am

    I’m so angry that the president is attacking a black race car driver and defending the confederate flag.  Maybe that and is his divisive weekend speeches will divert the media from his ignoring warnings about Putin’s putting bounties on GI’s heads.

    what a sociopath

  87. 87.

    Just One More Canuck

    July 6, 2020 at 9:27 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: As Kropacetic suggested, we’d be willing to take on the responsibility

    (Per wiki) Meighen Island – is topped with an ice cap. The island is permanently icebound, and its northwestern coast faces onto the open Arctic Ocean. Unlike many Canadian Arctic islands, no traces of Inuit or Thule camps have been found, suggesting the island has never been inhabited, likely due to its extreme northern latitude

  88. 88.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 9:30 am

    @JPL: I’m so angry that the president is attacking a black race car driver and defending the confederate flag.

    If he values his Confederate idols and talismans so much, let him have them.  When he’s out of office, let’s have him stricken as a President of the US and declared the last President of the Confederacy.  The US didn’t have a President from 2017-2020 as far as I’m concerned.

    Then we can erect a statue to him and put it wherever we’re putting the rest of the Confederate statues for posterity, hopefully at the bottom of a cess pool.

  89. 89.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 9:31 am

    @JPL:

    Assuming that the Racist-in-Chief was referring to the “noose” incident: Will the Racist-in-Chief apologize to Bubba Wallace, since Wallace was not the one who first publicized the noose thing? And, if memory serves Wallace did not push it as an issue after it was publicized.

    Naturally, he would/will never apologize. For anything.

  90. 90.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 9:31 am

    @Just One More Canuck: The island is permanently icebound

    Famous last words.

  91. 91.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 9:33 am

    @Kropacetic: I don’t dump a giant turd on the doorstep of my good friends and neighbors. I’m kinda weird that way.  ;-)

  92. 92.

    SFAW

    July 6, 2020 at 9:34 am

    @Kropacetic:

    Speaking of statues: TPM is reporting that a statue of Frederick Douglass was ripped from its pedestal in Rochester (NY).

  93. 93.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 9:35 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: But you’d entrust him to Russia? He’d probably be welcomed there as a hero

    @SFAW: Speaking of statues: TPM is reporting that a statue of Frederick Douglass was ripped from its pedestal in Rochester (NY).

    That’s sad.  I can’t help but wonder who did this and why.  Was it someone getting it wrong or was it a retribution sort of thing?

  94. 94.

    Barbara

    July 6, 2020 at 9:38 am

    @JPL: It would be long!  I will try to email the thread to him, or the more interesting posts. There aren’t that many but most of the individual entries are long and thoughtful.  It kills me that we have so many talented and knowledgeable people who have just been shunted aside for the basest of reasons.

  95. 95.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 9:41 am

    @Kropacetic:But you’d entrust him to Russia? He’d probably be welcomed there as a hero.

    Entrust him to Russia? They certainly aren’t going to call the chump a hero. Putin is more likely to put him naked on an ass wearing a dunce cap and parade him past the Kremlin for the Victory Day parade, and then dump him in a gulag to freeze to death.

  96. 96.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @SFAW: Yeah, they are talking about putting a new one up because this one was too damaged. It it were me I’d put the same one back as a giant “FUCK YOU” to whoever did it.

  97. 97.

    Aleta

    July 6, 2020 at 9:45 am

    Beautiful close up right now: explore.org/livecams/ospreys/osprey-nest
    (Maine island, osprey and nest.  Their heads are so beautiful.   That stuff that looks like moss is, I’ve been told, a kind of air plant. )

  98. 98.

    Anya

    July 6, 2020 at 9:49 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: I think this is the dumbest shit ever. The best memes didn’t help Sanders so why not stick to what’s working: building an on the ground volunteer army, digital operation, reaching voters, focusing on voter suppression tactics and GETTING OUT THE VOTE.

  99. 99.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 6, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @Aleta: “Beautiful plumage…”

  100. 100.

    Anya

    July 6, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @SFAW: He won’t because he’s settled on motivating his base with racism and nothing works with racists better than the claim that racism doesn’t exist and if it does, it’s victimizing white people with false accusations of racism. He knows what he’s doing.

  101. 101.

    Aleta

    July 6, 2020 at 10:09 am

    Even birds that know flight are able to stay put on their nests so their young will survive.  Not us N. Americans it seems, though we enjoy feeling superior to chickens.

  102. 102.

    Aleta

    July 6, 2020 at 10:12 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue.

  103. 103.

    phdesmond

    July 6, 2020 at 10:14 am

    @SFAW: oh, what a shame.

  104. 104.

    Suzy

    July 6, 2020 at 10:20 am

    @JPL: Nope. He will skip the inauguration. If he doesn’t bow out and stays on the ballot and get creamed by Joe Biden, Trump won’t respect any tradition, protocol when it comes to the transition of power. No inviting Joe and Jill Biden to the White House after the election, no attending the Inauguration. And there won’t be a lot of “memos” written in the different agencies. Nothing to inform the new administration, nothing to facilitate the transition of power.

     

    Whatever form of Inauguration will be organized, Trump won’t attend it. The boos would be defining, and Trump doesn’t want a giant booing to be filmed and be seen for generations to come.

    The whole Inauguration will be different anyway because of the pandemic. No gigantic crowds in front of the Capitol. No big gathering of politicians on the stairs to witness the new president being sworn in. No balls. No parade on Pennsylvania Avenue.

    I hope the Inauguration Committee comes up with some imaginative ideas. Americans will need to celebrate…

  105. 105.

    ...now I try to be amused

    July 6, 2020 at 10:21 am

    Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain, “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly” Theme

  106. 106.

    cain

    July 6, 2020 at 10:37 am

    @Baud:

    Wrong guy.. the chokehold is reserved for Barr and any other enabler. Trump is Trump – we all know him. He’s going to jail and I’m happy about that. But his enablers? They deserve much worse.

  107. 107.

    The Moar You Know

    July 6, 2020 at 10:39 am

    Also, I understand that, while the tradition is for the Chief Justice to administer the oath at a ceremony in Washington, this is not a legal requirement and the oath can actually be administered by any Justice of the Peace, anywhere in the country. Is this right?

    @Sloane Ranger:  It is correct.  Johnson (sorry, raven) was sworn in on Air Force One by (literally) the nearest federal magistrate they could find.

  108. 108.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 10:43 am

    @The Moar You Know: Johnson (sorry, raven)

    Fuck LBJ.

  109. 109.

    cain

    July 6, 2020 at 10:50 am

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA):

    There is going to be a clusterfuck of a situation before he leaves. It will be bad. The man operates by creating a worse diversion than what there is now. So if him not pushing back on Russia is one thing, he’s going to do something else – something that will be a foreign policy catastrophe.

    Or a domestic one. Something that will completely derail everything – it’s how he works.

  110. 110.

    frosty

    July 6, 2020 at 10:51 am

    @…now I try to be amused: That was amazing!

  111. 111.

    Kropacetic

    July 6, 2020 at 10:52 am

    @cain: There is going to be a clusterfuck of a situation before he leaves. It will be bad. The man operates by creating a worse diversion than what there is now. So if him not pushing back on Russia is one thing, he’s going to do something else – something that will be a foreign policy catastrophe.

    Or a domestic one. Something that will completely derail everything – it’s how he works.

    You’re referring to the mad duck period after the election, right?

  112. 112.

    Another Scott

    July 6, 2020 at 10:57 am

    I only remark about people's appearance out of Christian concern . . . t.co/gkGjZywJw8

    — Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) July 6, 2020

    Hmmm…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  113. 113.

    cain

    July 6, 2020 at 10:58 am

    @Kropacetic: You’re referring to the mad duck period after the election, right?

    Actually I’m thinking around fall. The mad period will be probably something else – but you know like the end of a 4th of July fireworks it will be the grand finale of clusterfucks.. probably.

  114. 114.

    catclub

    July 6, 2020 at 11:00 am

    @Suzanne: His campaign is going so badly that I legit don’t think he wants to win.

     

    This is in the same class as all the “Trump will drop out soon  dreaming.” he wins and he never has to face another lawsuit or jury for 4 more years.

  115. 115.

    Ruckus

    July 6, 2020 at 11:02 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Nah. He for sure can’t move the thing anywhere by himself and he won’t pay anyone to move it and I’d doubt that any of the employees of the WH will help. And most of his supporters in the WH are so very unused to any physical work….

    OTOH he is a spiteful ass so this may be the one time he actually pays someone. Perhaps he will offer and they will take his money and stand there and laugh at him. And then throw it in his face.

  116. 116.

    trollhattan

    July 6, 2020 at 11:02 am

    @Suzy:

    We should hold a Trump Concession Speech writing contest before November. Closest to matching his blizzard of protests, deflections, accusations and excuses on election night wins.

    The prize, of course, is yelling “Get out, NOW!” come January. Plus a cookie.

  117. 117.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 6, 2020 at 11:04 am

    @Sloane Ranger: Right. Also, the new President automatically becomes President at noon on Inauguration Day, regardless of whether he takes the oath. It’s not as if it’s possible to keep the old President by withholding it.

  118. 118.

    cain

    July 6, 2020 at 11:05 am

    @Suzanne: His campaign is going so badly that I legit don’t think he wants to win.

    Yeah.. I am not gonna rely on that. Trump won and he didn’t even have campaign offices in many states. We all thought he was doomed.

    Racism, misogyny and white resentment – you don’t need an office or even accomplishment. You just need to give them what they want and they’ll come out.

    He’s only getting screwed because of the pandemic which is just taking lives and some of aging racists realize that they are expected to die for the new Reich.

  119. 119.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 6, 2020 at 11:11 am

    @Suzy: There’s not a lot of institutional know-how to be transferred anyway, since many of the top-level political positions were never appointed in the first place and the people running the place are mostly wreckers out to ruin it. Biden, if he wins, is going to have to build a government from scratch rather than taking over.

  120. 120.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 6, 2020 at 11:13 am

    I wonder if he’s already pardoned himself, and if Barr drafted, or at least reviewed, the document.

  121. 121.

    Ruckus

    July 6, 2020 at 11:40 am

    @Ken:

    Are you referring to one we already operate?

  122. 122.

    joel hanes

    July 6, 2020 at 11:48 am

    @trollhattan:

    He won’t make a concession speech.

    He’s already said he won’t go to Biden’s inauguration.

  123. 123.

    joel hanes

    July 6, 2020 at 11:51 am

    @Derelict:

    the response to the crisis will continue to be a mix of magical thinking, avoidance, and general flailing

    Denial
    Anger
    Bargaining
    Depression
    Acceptance

  124. 124.

    Ruckus

    July 6, 2020 at 11:53 am

    @Barbara:

    His comfort and ego account for everything for shitforbrains. He is OK with his followers as long as they support him fully. He will throw them away faster than a MLB fastball pitch if he had any inkling that it would be better for him. It is always about him, his world is tiny and useless as it rotates only about him. Everything else is close to that world but that world is about him and him alone. All he wants to hear is the undulations and praise about him. If the walls in his world could talk the only word they would know is ME. A lot of people have narcissistic tendencies. Some are Narcissistic. shitforbrains is NARCISSISTIC

    d

  125. 125.

    Ruckus

    July 6, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    @Ruckus:

    OK the timer said I had 30 seconds left…..

    I was adding that every republican president in my lifetime except Eisenhower has been noticeably narcissistic. Except shitforbrains. He is only and all narcissism. Everything is about him. He is mentally a 4 yr old spoiled brat, in a really crappy adult body. A 4 yr old, with very few exceptions only knows the world that revolves around them. A 4 yr normally will have gotten to the point that they know somewhat that there is more out there than them but that is mom, dad and some toys, maybe a pet and siblings. They are just starting to see more. shitforbrains is not reverting, he never went past that stage of development. Sure he’s been to school, has been married and has kids, but the world in his head is that 4 yr old’s world.

  126. 126.

    misterpuff

    July 6, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: Don’t need an island, just an ice flow.

  127. 127.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    July 6, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    @Sloane Ranger: I think you’re right.  Remember the famous photo of LBJ taking the oath in Air Force 1 with Jackie and Lady Bird?

  128. 128.

    MaryRC

    July 6, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    @Geoduck: He’ll be able to build an empire on the grievances of his base:  rallies, a TV network, merchandise.  It’s probably what he wanted from the start.

  129. 129.

    brantl

    July 6, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    President Trump is planning to “skip the inauguration” if Biden wins

    Might as well get that stank out of there as fast as you can, Joe.

  130. 130.

    brantl

    July 6, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: Michael Crichton is basically an idiot. His ramblings on science indicate that he was sniffing glue through all of his high school science classes.

  131. 131.

    Amir Khalid

    July 8, 2020 at 10:18 am

    @joel hanes:

    If it comes to that, I doubt he’ll even acknowledge Biden won.

  132. 132.

    Amir Khalid

    July 8, 2020 at 10:35 am

    @brantl:

    Crichton, who died in 2008, was dead wrong about global warming, but otherwise he displayed a pretty good grasp of science and technology in his fictional writings.

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