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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 / COVID-19 Coronavirus Update: Friday-Saturday, July 10-11

COVID-19 Coronavirus Update: Friday-Saturday, July 10-11

by Anne Laurie|  July 11, 20206:25 am| 46 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19, Foreign Affairs

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Breaking on @MSNBC: The U.S. has crossed more than 70,000 new coronavirus cases in a single day. That is a record. A week ago, the record was about 50,000 cases in a single day.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 11, 2020

U.S. coronavirus cases rise by record for third day in a row, up over 62,500 https://t.co/uPEHIoB0T0 pic.twitter.com/Ffdb2xGpYr

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

"What started in young adults, didn’t stay in young adults."@DrTomFrieden's weekly read of @CDCgov's @Covid19 data.
3 words: Not good, folks. https://t.co/9Yrjs0Y3Bb

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) July 11, 2020

How was your day, covidusa?
Not good
There were a large number of deaths, at least 850, again
The 4 top states had >35,000 new cases
And their deaths/day have doubled in a month
Hospitalizations were the highest recorded for these states
And for the US >80 days@COVID19Tracking pic.twitter.com/5sKN45lYpP

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 10, 2020


Six U.S. states suffered record spikes in new COVID-19 cases and Florida, an epicenter of the pandemic, saw infections rise sharply for the second day in a row https://t.co/04w9mBK35N pic.twitter.com/og3Omg3bqc

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

Remarkably, things got even uglier in @WhiteHouse #COVID19 leadership.
"June 28 email to @CDCDirector was ominous: A sr adviser @HHSGov accused CDC of 'undermining the President' by putting out a rpt abt risks of the #coronavirus to pregnant women."https://t.co/QszZfuVouV

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) July 10, 2020

At this moment a U.S. passport grants you access to only 24 countries.

— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) July 10, 2020

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1st major study of the pandemic shows staggering economic losses- $3.8 trillion worldwide – which triggered full-time equivalent job losses of 147mln. However, there's good news: The pandemic has spurred the biggest-ever drop in greenhouse gas emissions https://t.co/87gAxWFm0k

— delthia ricks ?? (@DelthiaRicks) July 9, 2020

China suspends imports of Ecuador shrimp on coronavirus risk https://t.co/o28g04bx92 pic.twitter.com/ML8qDunSQN

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

The struggle to keep India's Covid-19 patients breathing https://t.co/7nXlHTtMpQ

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) July 10, 2020

Indonesia reports 1,671 new coronavirus cases – Health Ministry official https://t.co/7RbRxg7NdC pic.twitter.com/HL8i3u6tf9

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

Tokyo confirms 206 new cases of coronavirus infections – NHK https://t.co/w7cfSEIXL3 pic.twitter.com/UN2VsvnVj0

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

Kazakhstan denies 'unknown pneumonia' outbreak https://t.co/eOYsVY59QU

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) July 10, 2020

Russia reports 6,611 new coronavirus infections https://t.co/6MqiOzBg08 pic.twitter.com/fXOGuQJjp7

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

Almost half of Russian doctors think the country's official coronavirus statistics are underestimated. pic.twitter.com/Nvrv65vqXX

— Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (@RFERL) July 11, 2020

The beleaguered Australian state of Victoria receives a small amount of good news with health officials reporting 216 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, down from the record 288 the previous day. https://t.co/XKYgdX2ijZ

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 11, 2020

The coronavirus pandemic is sweeping through the leadership of Latin America, with two presidents and two other powerful officials testing positive this week, adding a destabilizing new element to the region’s public health and economic crises. https://t.co/wKefdva4Uh

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 11, 2020

Mexico reports 6,891 new coronavirus cases, 665 more deaths https://t.co/QIXaTjQwOk pic.twitter.com/iocLRMsVy3

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

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Dr. Mike Ryan, head of the World Health Organization’s emergencies program, says it is currently unlikely that the new coronavirus can be eliminated https://t.co/1cAXB0EfdG pic.twitter.com/j5lhAhMtJI

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 11, 2020

'Aerosol boxes' meant to protect #COVID health teams might harm them, according to a new study. The boxes have been touted as a simple way to protect workers, but their effectiveness/safety were never clinically tested https://t.co/KoRfzv7XVK via @medical_xpress

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) July 11, 2020

ApiJect, a young injections company focused on the developing world, never wanted to work in America. Now they've got the biggest U.S. government contract to help deliver a COVID-19 vaccine. Read more from @AP, @frontlinepbs and @GlobalRepCentre https://t.co/DuSmCOOnYo

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 10, 2020

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We don't have a national strategy to defeat COVID. We have state strategies, which produce regional outcomes.

The northeast curve looks like a mega-Italy: Higher peak, higher trough, but a sharply bent curve.

The south looks like one of the worst-hit nations on earth. pic.twitter.com/eNbccTFB9D

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) July 10, 2020

"I don't think that Florida or Texas or Arizona for that matter are seeking to crush the virus at this point I think they are just trying to keep the numbers down so their health systems don't become overwhelmed," says @ScottGottliebMD. pic.twitter.com/TlV6Aj3gQT

— Squawk Box (@SquawkCNBC) July 10, 2020

More than 1,000 TSA employees have tested positive for coronavirus https://t.co/xC4HzJqdon

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 10, 2020

JPMORGAN: Spending data from 30 million Chase cards “appears to have flattened out” — not from a sharp drop in areas with case surge “but instead by modest pullbacks that are widespread across states .. raises the concern that behavior has not changed enough to stem the spread..” pic.twitter.com/h64IrcMXdw

— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) July 9, 2020

This is what happens when #Covid19 transmission isn't suppressed. We know this. We've known it since Italy (late February). Why do some places feel like they maybe will be different?
Happens every damn time. https://t.co/OiUJa6PIgA

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) July 10, 2020

“Wait and see before taking decisive action” is a strategy that’s worked really well with this pandemic in the past. https://t.co/DUjlgEExGv

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) July 10, 2020

The busiest hospitals in Houston are increasingly telling emergency responders they cannot safely accept new patients as hundreds of coronavirus patients crowd emergency rooms, and hospitals scramble to open more intensive care space.https://t.co/6gqSCQPldD @Mike_Hixenbaugh

— Charles Ornstein (@charlesornstein) July 10, 2020

The @azcentral front page today with a clear headline about the Arizona Gov's inaction as the virus ravages the state pic.twitter.com/u5aIUsrC1y

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) July 10, 2020

Dozens of Mississippi lawmakers have coronavirus after weeks of refusing to wear masks https://t.co/6KdMdyKbMo pic.twitter.com/dqlm97nKtG

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 11, 2020

Miami-Dade County in #Florida is witnessing a staggering 33.5% #SARSCoV2 test-positive rate Over the past 13 dys, hospitalizations in the County have gone up by 76%, the number of ICU beds being used has ^ed by 86% & ventilator use ^ed by 124%. #COVID19 https://t.co/k3kQhH6yJO

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) July 10, 2020

The bad news is that a lot of people are going to suffer in a way we could easily have prevented but didn't because it seemed annoying and hard. But there's good news, too—I found a really stupid way to spin all that. https://t.co/q7KiZqdqGm

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) July 10, 2020

The Republican party is, as @chrislhayes has noted, becoming objectively pro-virus. https://t.co/SRrCCJRZln

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) July 11, 2020

I want to make this clear — I will not send our kids and our education workforce into our schools unless it is safe to do so, plain and simple. I have made decisions based on science and facts to keep Michiganders safe since the beginning, and won’t stop now.

— Governor Gretchen Whitmer (@GovWhitmer) July 9, 2020

I think we need to consider the possibility that the Trump campaign is populated by morons. https://t.co/eFEvV6tYUg

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) July 10, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Amir Khalid

    July 11, 2020 at 6:34 am

    Malaysia’s daily numbers. Eight new cases. Four cases from local infection, two Malaysians and two non-Malaysian immigration detainees. Four cases from imported infection, all Malaysians returning from Singapore (two), Pakistan, and the UK respectively. Cumulative total 8,704 cases.

    Four more patients recovered and were discharged; total 8,515 recovered or 97.8% of the cumulative total. 67 active and contagious cases remain in hospital for isolation/treatment. Of these, three are in ICU and two of them are receiving respiratory assistance.

    One new death, ending Malaysia’s 26-day run without Covid-19 fatalities: a 72-year-old man with co-morbidities diabetes and hypertension. Total 122 deaths. Infection fatality rate 1.40%, case fatality rate 1.41%.

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    July 11, 2020 at 6:45 am

    Thank you, Amir. For your update

  3. 3.

    terben

    July 11, 2020 at 6:46 am

    From the Australian Dept of Health:

    ‘As at 3pm on 11 July 2020, a total of 9,553 cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Australia, including 107 deaths, and 7,724 have been reported as recovered from COVID-19.

    • Over the past week, there has been an average of 172 new cases reported each day. Of the newly reported cases, the majority have been from Victoria.
    • Following the peak of cases at the end of March, there have been a relatively low number of new cases reported daily between mid-April and early-June 2020. Cases have increased since mid-June however they remain below the March peak of daily cases.
    • Of cases with a reported place of acquisition, 53% have recent international travel history, including over 1,300 cases associated with cruise ships.
    • The overall proportion of cases under investigation in each state and territory is relatively low, indicating that public health actions, including case identification and contact tracing, is occurring in a timely manner.
    • To date, over 3,021,000 tests have been conducted nationally. Of those tests conducted 0.3% have been positive.
    • On 3 July, 189 historic cases reported in crew members on board a ship were classified as Australian cases and included in New South Wales totals.’

    Sadly, one new death and 229 new cases today, 35 reclassified, for a net increase of 191. There were 216 new cases in Victoria, which continues to be the only state with community transmission.

  4. 4.

    Brachiator

    July 11, 2020 at 6:47 am

    The Guardian has a devastating story of how state officials overruled a local agency and contributed to needless death and suffering. The common thread is political stupidity ignoring the science and known risk factors.

    Five residents from Starr county on Texas’s southern border died on a single day last week after contracting Covid-19. New infections in the rural border community of around 65,000 people have soared in recent weeks, and two intubated patients had to be airlifted to Dallas and San Antonio when overwhelmed local hospitals couldn’t care for them.
    Texas has become one of the US’s new coronavirus hotspots, with new confirmed cases surging to around 14% of the country’s total, when measured by a seven-day average. Starr County isn’t even the hardest hit community in the Rio Grande Valley. After a rushed reopening, the state is scrambling to combat the virus by pausing elective surgeries and closing bars, while some officials worry it is too little, too late.
    But Starr county’s public officials knew months ago that is was especially vulnerable to the coronavirus pandemic: roughly one in three residents lives in poverty, a sizable slice of the population doesn’t have health insurance, and risk factors such as diabetes and obesity prevail. To protect their constituents, who are more than 96% Hispanic or Latino, they acted fast to curtail the contagion….
    The inflection point came when the Texas governor, Greg Abbott, unilaterally decided to reopen the state, and stripped local governments of their power in the process.

    And the Texas legislature is still looking to find ways to obey and to please Trump, at the expense of its citizens.

    Idiots are resurrecting the nonsense that the US is trying to achieve herd immunity. It is unclear whether this could even happen, and even if it could, it would take years. And the promised vaccine will supposedly be available before the end of the year.  Or the virus will magically disappear in the winter. Or something. The lies and excuses are self-contradictory and endless. Meanwhile, the virus itself just does what every competent health expert said that it would, in a population that tries to ignore it.

  5. 5.

    rikyrah

    July 11, 2020 at 6:47 am

    Houston hospitals are telling ambulances not to bring them emergency patients because they're full. https://t.co/H596G4tycV— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 10, 2020

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    rikyrah

    July 11, 2020 at 6:48 am

    @terben:

    Thank you for the report

  7. 7.

    oatler.

    July 11, 2020 at 6:54 am

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/10/philippe-monguillot-french-bus-driver-dies-following-attack-passengers-refused-wear-masks

  8. 8.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 11, 2020 at 6:59 am

    On that Eric Topol tweeted graph, one of these is not like the others.

  9. 9.

    JWR

    July 11, 2020 at 7:01 am

    Just wow. As others have already pointed out, it’s a friggin death cult.

    From Politico (Sorry, can’t link), “Trump campaign office shuns masks, social distancing”

    Facing no threat of enforcement, the Trump campaign has continued to make its own rules on coronavirus protections, said the individuals, who requested anonymity to speak freely. For instance, staff have been told to wear masks outside the office, in case they’re spotted by reporters, but they’ve been instructed that it’s acceptable to remove them in the office, the individuals said, adding that staff also publicly joke about the risk of coronavirus and play down the pandemic’s threat.

    “You get made fun of, if you wear a mask,” said one person. “There’s social pressure not to do it.”

    “There’s social pressure not to do it.” These horrible people are the ones who started the culture war BS, and now they, and more importantly We, will live or die with their bad decisions.

  10. 10.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 11, 2020 at 7:06 am

    The GOP needs to go the way of the NSDAP and the CPSU.

    Oblivion.

  11. 11.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 11, 2020 at 7:06 am

    From one of the many Reuters articles linked above:

    In Texas, another hot zone, Governor Greg Abbott warned on Friday he may have to impose new clampdowns if the state cannot stem its record-setting caseloads and hospitalizations through masks and social distancing.

    “If we don’t adopt this best practice it could lead to a shutdown of business,” the Republican governor told local KLBK-TV in Lubbock, adding it was the last thing he wanted.

    I can’t help noticing that the unnecessary deaths of untold numbers of Texans are NOT the last thing Abbot wants.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 11, 2020 at 7:17 am

    New York’s hungry rats torment alfresco diners after lockdown famine

    So. Much. Winning.

  13. 13.

    Brachiator

    July 11, 2020 at 7:25 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    RE: “If we don’t adopt this best practice it could lead to a shutdown of business,” the Republican governor told local KLBK-TV in Lubbock, adding it was the last thing he wanted.

    I can’t help noticing that the unnecessary deaths of untold numbers of Texans are NOT the last thing Abbot wants.

    He is talking to the resistant idiots who are still in denial, or who foolishly believe that the state can simply plow through the virus.

    Also, Texas does not have a state income tax. Sales tax is the largest source of state funding for the state budget, accounting for 57 percent of all tax collections.

    You shut down business and don’t have a federal rescue package, then you are asking for the state to administer the pandemic on fairy dust.

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 11, 2020 at 7:29 am

    @Brachiator: Also, Texas does not have a state income tax. Sales tax is the largest source of state funding for the state budget,

    Welcome to a plague of unintended consequences. Fuck Republican governance and those who vote for it.

  15. 15.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 11, 2020 at 7:29 am

    The pandemic has spurred the biggest-ever drop in greenhouse gas emissions

    Mmmmm this healthier air is nutritious and delicious! ?

  16. 16.

    rikyrah

    July 11, 2020 at 7:31 am

    @Brachiator:

    Then he better get on the phone to Cruz and Cornyn about a federal aid package.?

  17. 17.

    JPL

    July 11, 2020 at 7:35 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Remy’s alive?

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    July 11, 2020 at 7:35 am

    Horrendous.

    A bus driver who was assaulted in France on Sunday by young men refusing to wear face masks has died, his daughter Marie revealed to AFP.
    [snip]
    Philippe Monguillot, 59, was the victim of an assault “of extreme violence”, said the deputy public prosecutor of Bayonne, Marc Mariée.

    Authorities said the driver wanted to check the ticket of one of the suspects and demanded that three others wear face masks. Wearing a mask on public transport is compulsory in post-lockdown France. Source

  19. 19.

    Punchy

    July 11, 2020 at 7:36 am

    @rikyrah: I’m expecting all red states to get Fed money.  The blue ones?  Not a dime.

  20. 20.

    Anne Laurie

    July 11, 2020 at 7:36 am

    @JWR: Link is in the last tweet of my post, if anyone’s curious to read the whole story.

    Politico’s clearly given up on Trump, which I suppose is a tiny sliver of silver lining.

  21. 21.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 11, 2020 at 7:41 am

    Out: Lil Marco

    In: Sack of shit Marco

    Wow.  Has anyone asked Senator Batboy for his uninformed, jackass opinion?

  22. 22.

    Brachiator

    July 11, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    RE: Also, Texas does not have a state income tax. Sales tax is the largest source of state funding for the state budget,

    Welcome to a plague of unintended consequences. Fuck Republican governance and those who vote for it.

    Bigger problem than that. No state can endure a long shut down without federal assistance.

     

    @rikyrah:

    Then he better get on the phone to Cruz and Cornyn about a federal aid package.

    Realistic levels of federal aid will not be possible unless the Democrats win in November.

  23. 23.

    TS (the original)

    July 11, 2020 at 7:41 am

    Really do have doubts about the media when they include a picture from India with a story about Australia.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    July 11, 2020 at 7:43 am

    From The Guardian’s liveblog:

    Vietnam’s sickest Covid-19 patient returning to UK

    The British pilot who spent two months on life support in Vietnam as the country’s most at-risk Covid-19 patients was in his way home on Saturday, astounding doctors who give him just a 10% chance of survival, AFP reports.

    Stephen Cameron, 42, was the sickest patient medics have had to treat during the coronavirus outbreak in the Communist nation, which has recorded no official deaths following a fast and aggressive response to the pandemic.

    Little more than six weeks ago, they warned that Cameron would need a double transplant for his lungs, which were only functioning at around 10%.

    But after nearly four months in hospitals in Ho Chi Minh City, including 10 weeks on a ventilator, the Vietnam Airlines pilot from Motherwell, Scotland was discharged Saturday and was due to fly back to the UK within hours.

    The Vietnamese doctors who saved this man are heroes, and deserve to be recognised as such.

     

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 11, 2020 at 7:49 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    The GOP needs to go the way of the NSDAP and the CPSU.

    Oblivion.

    Yes, but 40+ years ago.

  26. 26.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 11, 2020 at 7:51 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: So good.

    Pro tip: Don’t wear sandals in NYC.

  27. 27.

    Brachiator

    July 11, 2020 at 7:52 am

    Glass half full.

    Might as well get some use out of the pandemic. Probably applies more to the wealthy, but still… From BBC News

    A number of cosmetic surgery clinics around the world are reporting a rise in people getting treatment during the coronavirus outbreak as they can hide their treatment behind a mask or work from home.
    Despite the virus shutting businesses across the globe, a number of plastic surgery clinics have remained open, adopting stricter measures such as Covid-19 tests and more frequent cleaning.

    Clinics in the US, Japan, South Korea and Australia have all seen a rise in patients coming in for treatment including lip fillers, botox, face lifts and nose jobs.

    “I decided to get procedures done during quarantine because it allowed me to heal at my own pace,” Aaron Hernandez, who had lip fillers and buccal (cheek) fat removal in Los Angeles, told the BBC.

    “Getting my lips done is not something that all men tend to do, so some people might find it different. Therefore I preferred to stay home and recover fully and people not know what work I had done once I’m out.”

    And if you have to remote work, why not do it in style.

    Barbados is planning to introduce a “12-month Barbados Welcome Stamp” that would allow visitors to stay in the Caribbean country for up to a year and work remotely.

    You can also bring the kids and they can do island style remote learning.

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 11, 2020 at 7:54 am

    @JPL: Maybe it’s Roddy from Flushed Away.

  29. 29.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 11, 2020 at 7:58 am

    @TS (the original):

    Really do have doubts about the media when they include a picture from India with a story about Australia. 

    (chef’s kiss)

  30. 30.

    JWR

    July 11, 2020 at 8:00 am

    @Anne Laurie: “Link is in the last tweet of my post”

    Well dang. I knew I scanned thru too quickly. Thanks. ;)

  31. 31.

    Amir Khalid

    July 11, 2020 at 8:29 am

    @JWR:

    If you ran an office in Malaysia like that now, the office would fail a Covid-19 safety inspection and get shut down.

  32. 32.

    Gvg

    July 11, 2020 at 8:36 am

    @TS (the original):  if you click on the actual article, it’s a collection of one paragraph per country in the “region” which includes both Australia and India and several others.

  33. 33.

    YY_Sima Qian

    July 11, 2020 at 8:39 am

    Yesterday, Beijing reported 1 domestic asymptomatic case, no confirmed or suspect cases. No other domestic cases reported elsewhere in China. There are 12 Medium Risk and 1 High Risk sub-districts left in Beijing.

    Beijing Municipal Health Commission has been sharing results of epidemiological investigations into cluster from the Xinfadi outbreak, to educate and warn the public. Today, they described one cluster of 13 cases in a old residential building. Residents used boiler room for hot water, there are public restrooms accessible by both residents and visitors, and residents visited their neighbors without mask. 8 residents were initially infected, who in turn infected 3 family members. 2 visitors who used the public restroom were also infected, likely fomite transmission.

    There were 2 imported confirmed and 3 imported asymptomatic cases:

    Shenyang in Liaoning Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Russia

    Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese National returning from the Philippines

    Tianjing Municipality – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese student returning from the US

    Hefei in Anhui Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from the UK

    Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national arriving on a flight from Brussels, not sure about the origin

    Chinese Customs is now routinely taking samples from containers, outside and inside of packing, as well the surfaces of imported frozen meats. Today, they published that batches of frozen shrimp from Ecuador tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on RT-PCR (not sure it is live virus or viral fragments) both in inside of the container and outside of the packaging. While fomite transmission appears to be rare, no confirmation that cold chain logistics is a vector, it is theoretically feasible. I guess Beijing is aiming for full eradication after each new flare up (as much as can be determined), and is not taking any chances in any potential for import vectors.

  34. 34.

    YY_Sima Qian

    July 11, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @TS (the original): Well, BBC used a photo of dead bats on sales in wet markets in Indonesia as illustration for bats purportedly on sale in the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan. The video of Chinese patrons sampling bat soup, which went viral on YouTube, was actually shot on the Pacific island of Palau by Chinese tourists.

  35. 35.

    Kirk Spencer

    July 11, 2020 at 8:53 am

    @Brachiator: I don’t get this, but then I can math.

    The most optimistic herd immunity threshold I’ve seen (which carried a lot of ifs and maybes but wasn’t ridiculed by others) was 50%. And if you’re going the herd immunity route you’re exceeding hospital space so your projected cfrs are closer to 5% instead of less than 1. So 2.5% of the population dies, minimum, to get herd immunity if it exists for this.

    750,000 dead Texans. They are thinking that’s just ok.

  36. 36.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    July 11, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @Brachiator: Idiots are resurrecting the nonsense that the US is trying to achieve herd immunity. It is unclear whether this could even happen, and even if it could, it would take years.

    Well, it would be a horrible surprise if herd immunity *can’t* be achieved (but as you note, it’s possible – that it *can’t*, I mean); still, “herd immunity” means, at a minimum, 70% of the entire US – 330 million people, 70% = 231 million, which means likely far more than 2.3 million deaths  (since we can’t keep cases from increasing fast enough to avoid flooding hospitals, we can’t hope to get under 1% – and note, we’re already starting far above that!).

    Plus, reports from Sweden are, “wow, more deaths, *and* all the economic pain; and *we* have a strong social safety net, and universal health care! Sucks to be you, USA!” (That last bit is probably said with honest-to-goodness regret/sympathy – once they get over the astonishment of “wow, we were sure that Trump was a moron, but we really thought the USA would realize that before… oh, those poor, sorry bastards.”

    Anyway: at this point, you don’t just have to be a moron to think herd immunity via infection is the answer. You also have to be engaging in the worst crime against intellectual honesty, which is, of course, “wishful thinking”.

    You know, if the Republicans could give a shit when they had diarrhea about America, what they’ve been engaging in for some 5 years now, as they pretended Trump was a reasonable candidate (but come on, do we *really* think they cared enough to allow at least one spasm-y squirt indicate their concerns?).

  37. 37.

    Obdurodon

    July 11, 2020 at 9:15 am

    @Punchy: I don’t think that will make a difference to the *people* in either set of states, because the money will be siphoned into officials’ pockets anyway.

  38. 38.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    July 11, 2020 at 9:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: In point of fact, the pandemic shows a lot of weaknesses in many Republican policies.

    For an obvious example: would you rather live in a “sanctuary city” where someone who’s undocumented can get a positive test, and be safely allowed to quarantine, or in a city where they have to hide from public health officials?

    Or, would you rather have almost everyone have health insurance, so they know how and where to get tested, and treated? Or would you like an extra 20 million uninsured, and “why bother getting tested? we can’t afford to get treated!’

    Or, would you rather believe the government can help; or do you want to follow St Ronnie’s maxim, it’s terrifying to hear “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” when someone is trying to explain public health measures?

    Or, here’s one that should have been obvious: should you bail out businesses, big time, and consumers, just a little, when millions of consumers are losing their jobs, unable to pay rent, unable to pay bills, etc.; or would you rather put the emphasis on consumers (who will support a lot of businesses, duh!), and bail out businesses that well-supported consumers *can’t* help?

    Serious question: is there *any* aspect of Republican thought which has been, in any way, helpful in this situation? (You don’t have to include “a totally lawless – seriously, not even *pretending* any more – President” as part of “this situation”, but *I* would.)

  39. 39.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    July 11, 2020 at 9:25 am

    @Kirk Spencer: For Covid-19, they assume a minimum of 70%, because it is so contagious (or, at least, so invisibly contagious). The easier it is to spread, the more people need to have immunity to cause an outbreak to die out.

    You’re right, the 50% numbers are already horrid, but the worst part is, it (almost certainly) wouldn’t be enough!

  40. 40.

    Searcher

    July 11, 2020 at 9:30 am

    @LongHairedWeird: 

    Man, these contradictions have sure been heightened.

  41. 41.

    Ohio Mom

    July 11, 2020 at 9:33 am

    The ApiJect story made the Cincinnati Enquirer this morning, which I found puzzling. They usually avoid stories that too blatantly show Republican corruption.

    This story is a real head scratcher, at least until we find out there is a big campaign donor involved. Or maybe Trump is revenging some slight from established injection device manufacturers?

    This is an vaccine injection device that is still in development, has not yet been approved, for which there is no production facility and no way to churn out the numbers we will need if/when a vaccine is ready.

    And yet the Trump administration is giving them more money than any of the companies that could roll out all the approved, proven devices we would need for a huge vaccination effort.

    At Ohio Dad’s old job, there was a jerk who spent weeks obsessing loudly on Solendra. I wish I could shout “ApiJect” back at him.

  42. 42.

    Robert Sneddon

    July 11, 2020 at 9:33 am

    Scotland has seven new cases confirmed by test over the past 24 hours, no new deaths. We’re down to six people in hospital in intensive care (that probably means patients on a ventilator). If I’m reading the published data right there were about 9,000 tests performed yesterday so the positive detection ratio is less than 0.1%.

     

    Oddly, Scotland’s governmental advice has not been to insist on masks everywhere but they’re now required for people using public transport since last week and visitors to shops from yesterday. The tight lockdown restrictions on pubs, nightclubs, restaurants etc. seems to have been the key factor in driving the infection rate way down from its peak in April.

  43. 43.

    patrick II

    July 11, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @Kirk Spencer:

    It would be mostly brown people, so it’s ok.  Texas would turn from a purple state to pure red state again. Getting that done before the election will be hard, but they seem up to the task.

  44. 44.

    Hoodie

    July 11, 2020 at 10:03 am

    @Robert Sneddon: Leave it to the Scots to be sensible about these sorts of things. This is obvious low hanging fruit.  I’ve seen tons of data that indicates that bars and dine-in restaurants are prime venues for transmission.  I still don’t get why we don’t shut down these down completely in the US, and just put the waitstaff and cooks that can’t do curbside on UI and give some sort of bailout to the business owners.  I suspect that would be a lot cheaper than what we’re expending on emergency and intensive medical care, not to mention the lives saved and reducing long term damage to our healthcare system from burn out of doctors, nurses and other professionals.  Makes no sense whatsoever.

  45. 45.

    catclub

    July 11, 2020 at 11:24 am

    @Brachiator: Realistic levels of federal aid will not be possible unless the Democrats win in November.

     

    unless the Democrats win and have a filibuster proof majority – or horror of horrors – scrap the filibuster.

     

    I am still gob-smacked that the GOP is refusing to do things that would help them in november – keep the economy and the states functioning.

  46. 46.

    JaneE

    July 11, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    If I read those numbers right, we are maybe a week or two away from adding a China’s worth of cases every day in this country.  We are already eclipsing dozens of countries, every day.  And we are still opening up.

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