She was being paid $15,000 a month, along with Don Jr’s girlfriend, through Parscale’s firm, secretly, with no public reporting to the FEC.
So. Factor that into her public remarks. https://t.co/9vJDzBMPnf
— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) July 17, 2020
[*Record scratch noises*]
Trouble if he stole from Trump, but a pardon if he stole for him. https://t.co/7a4wxrNXTg
— Orin Kerr (@OrinKerr) July 17, 2020
What’s funny about Kushner ordering an audit is that just about anyone who’s overseen a campaign budget—& plenty who haven’t—could see it was colossally stupid to have staff who use themselves as vendors.
I guess they’ve never heard of Mark Penn?
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 17, 2020
where’s his money brad https://t.co/q5PNCMvhC1
— kilgore trout, suburban female understander (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 17, 2020
Of course, when the Big Guy is busy with his own grifting…
Drain the swamp…right into your personal bank account. https://t.co/Z0okQ1Bh8O
— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) July 17, 2020
Ken
That spreadsheet is impressive in its own way. Definitely a “nobody will dare call us on this, so don’t even bother making it look legitimate” vibe there. Twenty-plus “catering” events on the same day, followed by as many the next day – does Mar-a-Lago even have that many meeting rooms?
pat
Once again, IT’S ALL PROJECTION!
When they accuse someone of something nefarious, you can be sure that they have done exactly that!
eta, BTW, firefox is refusing to post anything except BJ. Well it could be worse…..
Sure Lurkalot
$380K is lunch money for a real billionaire.
Baud
No wonder they want to make the campaign about Biden.
Baud
@pat:
Did you accidentally set it to “Don’t Get Out Of The Boat” mode?
Kent
That’s just one weekend. Multiply that by 100 weekends a year across Trump’s various properties and you are now talking $38 million a year. It’s the volume of the corruption as much as the amount.
trollhattan
O/T The kid and I encountered a superspreader event at a nearby park today–a full-on football game with several dozen players in full uniform and perhaps a hundred spectators. Crowded together and nary a mask in sight.
Have people not fucking been paying attention, or are they just bored by this whole “You could get sick and die, along with a lot of other people you know” thing? I’ve been bitching about the adult pickup soccer games all over the place and this was an order of magnitude worse. Football is not worth your fucking life. Not playing it, not watching it.
Feathers
I actually just saw an ad on YouTube featuring Lara Trump. I have to confess I jumped on the skip button as soon as it popped up. I am often curious about these things, but the Trump ads have never rewarded any sort of extra attention – nothing learned.
sanjeevs
The real Trump re-election campaign is run out of St Petersburg anyway so they all feel entitled to steal from the American faux campaign
Chief Oshkosh
@Kent:
Man, I gotta get me one o’ them 100-weekend years…
;)
gkoutnik
@Chief Oshkosh: Run for President with a MAGA hat. Every day’s a weekend.
catclub
@Chief Oshkosh: Well, Trump has more than one venue.
so 100 weekend events, not all in the same place.
pat
@Baud:
Haha I assume this relates to BJ. When I connect with WaPo, tpm, it comes up and as soon as I click on a story it is gone.
And Google Chrome is no help. WaPo wants my password. Huh?
Going to go get dinner on the table and then it’s off to PBS.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@catclub: @Kent:
This pisses me off for many reasons, but most of all is he doesn’t fucking deserve it! He’s a terrible businessman. Why can’t this asshole get his just deserts and end up under a bridge? Stop propping him up!
The Moar You Know
Next week: moving company will be pulling the furniture and china out of the White House.
I have long maintained that this sack of crap will steal everything that isn’t nailed down, and sure as shit that’s what’s happening.
In a way, this kind of theft is oddly reassuring; he thinks he’s going to lose.
Litlebritdifrnt
At this point they know he can’t win so they are at the smash and grab point of the campaign everyone is grabbing as much cash as they can while the going is good. They know it is going to stop in November so it is all hands for himself.
The Moar You Know
@Kent: $38 million is lunch money for a real billionaire. A billion is a thousand millions. Which just reinforces the other thing I’ve been saying about this guy forever; he’s fucking broke.
Captain C
Every dollar that Trump, his family, and his hangers-on stuff into their greedy pockets is a dollar that doesn’t get spent on anything that actually helps him get re-elected. While I hope they all see a legal reckoning for it in 2021, I am fine with anything which wastes Trump campaign money until then.
raven
Better Call Saul. . .
Robert Sneddon
I note all the sums listed are under or exactly $10,000, the reporting limit for cash transactions in the US as I understand.
Noncarborundum
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Virtual upvote for “deserts”.
zhena gogolia
Why do good people keep leaving the earth (Cummings, Reiner, Vivian, Lewis) and this evil demon remains?
MagdaInBlack
@zhena gogolia:
Because the MF-r would steal the Pearly Gates. They dont want him either.
Ken
@Robert Sneddon: Also note that the Trump property has a very carefully-graded fee structure, such that the combined rental and catering fees are in exact increments of $100 with no gaps.
In actuality I suspect someone gave a large lump of cash, and they rather clumsily structured the report as $10000, $9900, $9800, … “fees”. That also explains the single payments of $7821 and $2671 in each group, that’s what was left after they broke it down.
Ruckus
@The Moar You Know:
Skint, flat, done, a lot of just zero, nada, zip, never there, can’t afford cheap beer, McDs is dinning out……
If they steal stuff, anything not bolted down, that will be the frosting on the cake. Everything is likely inventoried somewhere, anything they take from a federal property is a what, federal crime? They going to sell it, hold it, pay off someone, that’s still not going to go over well.
OTOH if they are stealing from donations to the campaign or if they are padding the bills for his properties….. He may actually be an idiot, in all definitions of the word.
Mike in NC
Parscale will be unemployable but he’s stolen enough to live comfortably for quite some time.
Ruckus
@zhena gogolia:
Someone has to play the devil…..
Or what MagdaInBlack said.
geg6
@zhena gogolia:
Been saying that about Cheney for two decades now. Of course, he is a cyborg, but you’d think the machinery would have worn out by now.
MagdaInBlack
@Ruckus:
? Wee bit of body shop talk slipped out there ☺
zhena gogolia
We are still the country that elected Obama twice. I have to hold onto that thought.
zhena gogolia
God, I mean we went from a person of the highest intellectual, spiritual, and moral gifts, with a wife who is even more extraordinary, to this. An evil conman and a call girl. In the people’s house.
Jo Jo las Orejas
Pensamientos y rezos.
Kelly
If he hasn’t already spent it
zhena gogolia
My favorite response to this is “My fair lady of the evening.”
OzarkHillbilly
WAY off topic, but I gotta leave this here:
Damn. F’n allergies acting up like crazy around here.
Eric U.
I have become more convinced that Trump doesn’t even like golf, he just likes the $78000 checks each time for the golf carts that the secret service rents.
I always thought that Parscale was pretty clever to pay off Trump kids and their SO’s, but maybe Trump doesn’t feel the same way
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: We are. Both the wins were solid unlike the last election where the current occupant barely scraped by to win the EC victory.
Ruckus
@geg6:
Where do you think oil comes from, the depths. Of hell. That keeps a cyborg like dick going for a long time. We’ve heard all the stories about how evil destroys, it does, it destroys others. But pure evil lives until a replacement can be found.
Baud
@Jo Jo las Orejas:
Muestrame el dinero!
Jeffro
@Kent: Just like he learned at Fred trumpov’s knee…this is ALL. THEY. DO, America! And hell, trumpov STILL can’t keep from going bankrupt every couple of years or so.
Well, at least not until the Russians came along…
Hungry Joe
No, Trump would appreciate an underling’s stealing from him. As Lily pointed out to Bobo in “The Grifters” — Bobo suspected her of skimming, big time — sure, she took some, but that proved she was a valuable employee, because if she didn’t look out for her own interest, how could she be any good at looking out for his?
(Note: Trump isn’t anywhere near as smart as Bobo.)
Kent
If you had $1 billion dollars and invested it normal investments like stocks and bonds, the accepted annual safe withdrawal rate is 4%. So a $1 billion dollar nest egg should spin off an annual $40 million income in perpetuity.
Obviously they have a lot of other way to get better than 4% return on their investments. But just saying….$38 million per year is pretty close to what you could expect a $1 billion nest egg to safely produce in perpetuity if you were just going to dump it into a Vanguard fund or something.
Mike S
I’m curious about why they structured the payments to be under $10K like a drug dealer does. Is it habit or are they really trying to hide them from the government?
Jeffro
OT but maybe not really: I had an odd ‘confluence’ (is that the right word?) of events today with three wingnuts just freaking melting. down. with either their responses to my posts on FB or when they saw my response to theirs. They are really losing their shit!
One couldn’t agree that Portland kidnap victims deserve due process…
One blew up on our ‘let’s share funny quarantine memes’ FB group with some decidedly not funny TCNJ shit and got himself dropped…
And the last was my mom(!), who decided to blame the messenger when I shared that trumpov & Co oppose new funds for testing tracing and the CDC. Sorry you can’t leave your house, mom – maybe think about that when you go to vote in November, I guess.
It was weird, though. I think they all know it’s collapsing, and that they are about to face the results of their bad choices.
GOOD
Uncle Cosmo
@raven: ‘Saul good, man!
Yutsano
@Kent: He’s not broke. He’s worse than broke. He’s underwater. And not just a little underwater. He’s Lord knows how many billions underwater to so many payors that he doesn’t even have the concept of two nickels to rub together. And they won’t let him declare bankruptcy because some of his payors are not ones he can blow off like that. So when that blows up on him (and it will probably be soon) he’ll be a ruined shell.
topclimber
@zhena gogolia: If only the conman or his consort had a heart of gold.
Oh wait, that’s the problem. They do.
Jeffro
@Mike S: They’re really trying to hide it from the government.
Pure amateur hour shit. The government would have been on to this 20 years ago.
We are going to raise so much money from cracking down on “white-collar” crime it’ll blow people’s minds.
Another Scott
@OzarkHillbilly: Hey! What are the odds of that happening!!?
:-)
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
piratedan
@Kent: I think the amount also speaks to another fine Trump family trait… they’re petty. No grift is too small, no insult left unhurled, there is no better nature to be appealed to. The fact that they are emblematic of the entire GOP shouldn’t be lost on anyone. Some of them just prefer to not bring attention to themselves. I hate painting with broad brushes, but in this case it certainly appears to be accurate given the huge amounts of actual evidence.
Kent
That makes no sense because the $10K limit is for reporting CASH deposits into banks. Presumably we aren’t talking about cash payments here. You can deposit unlimited amounts of money into bank accounts if it isn’t cash, as far as I know.
HinTN
@Jeffro: Even that will ultimately fail. He’s in forever freefall. What’s amazing is that he doesn’t burn when he crashes.
Fester Addams
@sanjeevs:
Huh? Oh, that St. Petersburg.
Leto
I can’t wait for Trumpov to lose in Nov, be hauled out in Jan, then try to turn around and sue the government for failure to pay for events at his bed bug resorts because things were scheduled post Jan but are now canceled. Idk, I don’t see them going away and it seems like something they’d do.
Jeffro
Hey, as long as the tar is hot and the feathers stick, I don’t care if he burns or not.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
Wanna trade? Both knees conspired to initiate “you’re not the boss of me” mode today.
Uncle Cosmo
@Jeffro: You need to define TCNJ again – you’re the only one who uses it, & no one else here considers it even marginally “clever”, so no one but you remembers what it means.
Fester Addams
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Stealing the deck chairs on the Titanic.
HinTN
@Jeffro: He exists in a solipsistic universe. I want him to recognize the horror of his own existence.
Bex
@MagdaInBlack: I don’t think he has much of a chance at the pearly gates. He probably thinks eternal fire would be a great energy investment though.
Uncle Cosmo
@Fester Addams: Pronounced Sunkt Payterboorkh, spelled CAHKT ΠETEPbYPΓ with a bar on top of the “b”.
sdhays
@Sure Lurkalot: Nothing is merely lunch money to a billionaire. That’s how they get to be billionaires.
different-church-lady
It is entirely possible I am drinking too much during THE FUCKING PANDEMIC!
topclimber
@Uncle Cosmo: Awesome as you are, don’t claim to speak for others. I think Trump Curious Nut Job works.
Baud
@different-church-lady: maybe alcohol kills the virus.
rikyrah
Crooks. The entire lot of them.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Uncle Cosmo: Trump Cult Nut Job.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: I don’t think so, your entire sentence was not in ALL CAPS.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It does, but in enough of a concentration to cause alcohol poisoning and death.
Ken
Wait, it’s not that yogurt ice-cream place?
sdhays
@Kent: Transfers of $10k are automatically reported for possible money laundering. A bunch of transactions just under the threshold is very, very suspicious. Their bank should have detected that and reported it anyway.
Quinerly
@different-church-lady: I just looked up a Gin Cheesecake recipe to make tomorrow. I have some left over Boodles Gin that I would hate to go bad before Monday. ?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ken: All the ice cream is orange and tastes like shit.
different-church-lady
@Baud: It kills brain cells, I know that for sure…
Ken
@Leto: I’m hoping for an audit of all the travel and Secret Service expenses during his administration. Actually I’m really hoping there’s some law already on the books that sets a limit, and the government starts proceedings to claw back the excess.
Baud
@different-church-lady:
It’s not apparent on BJ.
spudgun
@Uncle Cosmo: Trump Cult Nut Job.
You know, you’re one of the reasons I only lurk around here – I once made what I thought was an innocuous comment and you jumped down my fucking throat.
Why do you have to be so aggressive all the time? Why don’t you try not being a snotty, vicious dickwad every once in a while?
Kay
I sometimes read Trump Twitter and Trump Twitter and Qanon Twitter are now merging into one awful whole. Anyway! You can try to figure out Q if you want to, why do they worship JFK jr, why do they specifically hate Pink (the musician), but if you don’t want to, here is the best and most succinct description I have ever seen:
That’s all you need to know, OTHER than the fact is is rapidly spreading within in the GOP and now comprises, I think, as much as 25% of their most rabid base.
The next thing for the GOP, the growth area, is, incredibly, even worse that Donald Trump.
Jo Jo las Orejas
@Baud:
Mi mamá gasta su dinero en juguetes y orejas de cerdo para mí.
NotMax
@different-church-lady
One fervently hopes it’s the good stuff.
Speaking of hooch, made a port wine and blue cheese loaf yesterday in the super duper bread machine. Yummy and decadent.
Just to be on the safe side, and even though had to freshly crack open a new bottle of port, felt it necessary to conduct ample testing in order to determine in advance of bread baking that it was useful.
Baud
@Kay: I like Pink.
Timill
@Chief Oshkosh: It’s called “2020”
Or at least it feels like it…
different-church-lady
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’M NOT A GODDAMNED MACHINE, YOU KNOW!!1!
Kay
@Baud:
Arrested and executed, Baud. I regret to inform you. Along with the entire cast of “Friends”.
different-church-lady
@NotMax: It’s rare that one makes a pitcher drink with bourbon, but that is a thing that has happened.
Kent
I transfer more than $10K on a not infrequent basis. We just did that when we re-financed. Also paying off a credit card bill this month that had lots of my wife’s reimbursable business expenses on it. And several recent transfers to emergency savings and retirement accounts. Are you saying every time we do that it gets reported to the government?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I like blue.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay:
And you say that like it’s a bad thing.
Baud
@Jo Jo las Orejas:
Tu mamá es muy simpatica.
Frankensteinbeck
@different-church-lady:
So I can’t rage against you?
?BillinGlendaleCA
Milky Way pic from Thursday night/Friday morning.
I went to a very dark place with a volcano.
Baud
@Kay:
Even Chandler? He seems like he would be into Q.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@different-church-lady: I have had that fear myself. Wine-o-clock comes mighty early some days.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: l like thinking of the non-Trump portions of the universe.
Kay
That sheet is laughable. They started with a total number and subtracted made-up round numbers. Periodically they had to make it “balance”- those are the specific numbers. It fucking SCREAMS fraud.
I think it’s hysterical in a way. Your local school fundraiser would get audited if they had the balls to turn that in, but they would be better at it than Donald Trump, so they wouldn’t.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Blue.
Uncle Cosmo
@topclimber: @?BillinGlendaleCA: Can’t even get two of us to agree on what he means by it. I bet he forgets half the time.
Uncle Cosmo
@Ken: That’s what I keep thinking when I see it, which is probably why it annoys the bejeezus out of me.
japa21
@OzarkHillbilly: I made the mistake of reading some of the replies.
Baud
@Kay:
Fraud.xls.
Kay
@Baud:
“$2671” that would be “general fund”- the number that makes the bottom number match the top number :)
different-church-lady
@Frankensteinbeck: Like I have any say in the matter…
StringOnAStick
@spudgun: Thank you!
debbie
@Kent:
No, this is money laundering. Limit for deposits is $10,000. More than that and the bank has to report the deposit or withdrawal. Can’t remember the specific reg.
different-church-lady
WHY IS THIS THREAD MOVING SO FAST? IT’S SATURDAY NIGHT! YOU SHOULD ALL BE OUT HAVING A… oh, wait…
Jo Jo las Orejas
@Baud:
La quiero mucho. Sobre todo porque ya no estoy dentiendo. Entonces hice berrinches. Yo fui muy dificil. Soy un niño grande ahora. Tengo casi 9 meses y peso 51 libras. Me sobrecalienta fácilmente en nuestros paseos. A veces cojeo cuando mi pierna lisiada me molesta. Mi mamá dice que soy muy guapo y muy valiente.
NotMax
@different-church-lady
At one time lived with a group of people who had one of those now-retro soda fountain juice bubblers.
It was not unknown to be at times filled with bourbon and water.
Kay
“Miscellaneous expenses”
Remember, too, the numbers they made up here THEN have to go into the Trump books. If they bother with that, which they may not. It may just be stacks of cash. “General income”, you could call it.
Sure Lurkalot
@sdhays: True. Did you work for some of the same asshats as I did?
zhena gogolia
@spudgun:
The idea that an abbreviation that one commenter uses (which is pretty easy to figure out) sets him off is very weird.
Subsole
@Robert Sneddon:
Which is hilarious, since making numerous payments in amounts designed to avoid the reporting requirement trigger is, itself, a federal crime, I believe.
@zhena gogolia: America, like most good things, only works when you take it seriously and work to keep it. In 2016, most Americans treated it like a joke. And, behold…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@NotMax: I forget which vodka puts out similar contraptions for flavored vodkas, with fruit or peppers or whatnot floating around in it
Baud
@Subsole: This.
SiubhanDuinne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
And so say all of us these days.
zhena gogolia
@Subsole:
Not most. There were 3 million more of us than of them.
Matt McIrvin
@Ken: Trenton City, New Jersey
Yutsano
@Quinerly: You’re inviting me over right? RIGHT?
StringOnAStick
@Kent: Yep, they are reviewing those transactions and so far they haven’t decided to look any deeper into your finances.
Keeping deposits below 10k to avoid automatic bank scrutiny is what Denny Hastert went to jail for, not for his years of sexually abusing his student athletes.
Baud
@zhena gogolia: Most if you consider nonvoters and third party voters.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: Y’all need to go out and see the comet, very cool.
Subsole
@Jeffro: LOL good one
Quinerly
@Yutsano: sure. I think I have enough Gin for 2 cheesecakes. ?
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Have seen (and smirked at) many strangely flavored vodkas in the liquor aisle. Shall make a point of looking for Whatnot flavor.
:)
SiubhanDuinne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
That is an amazing photograph!
Baud
@Jo Jo las Orejas:
Que grande un perrito. Comportate para tu mamá.
Another Scott
@Kent: https://www.mybanktracker.com/checking/faq/rules-deposit-10000-cash-check-271595#:~:text=The%20Bank%20Secrecy%20Act%20is,fill%20out%20IRS%20Form%208300.
tl;dr – Yes.
Cheers,
Scott.
NeenerNeener
@Kay: The Q folks and some neo-nazis (but I repeat myself) have infested a blind gossip site called Crazy Days and Nights. A few weeks back they were posting lists of all the people who have been arrested, executed and replaced with lookalikes. The entire Democratic Party and most of Hollywood, with the exception of Gary Sinise, Kelsey Grammer and Patricia Heaton, were on the lists I saw. It’s creepy and disturbing and not the least bit funny anymore.
laura
@Baud: Roadie brother the elder subbed for a friend for a few days on a Pink tour. He said nobody- NOBODY works as physically hard at their performance while singing without pro-tools. And that in addition to being a first rate athlete she’s a genuinely personable artist and woman. Big ups for Pink.
Kristine
@?BillinGlendaleCA: WOW ?
different-church-lady
Wait… did somebody say volcano?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@NotMax: a friend’s bartender son is a big proponent of cucumber vodka
Ruckus
@debbie:
Also a cash amount of 10 grand or more requires reporting. Which local banks would not do, because they had no business connection to the company I worked for, which is why I would have to carry large sums of cash on airplanes back to our company bank who would accept the deposit and do the paperwork. It started with the illegal drug trade getting so massive and cash based. Also if you broke the amounts down and did a lot of smaller but still significant cash deposits, it would raise flags. It was funny that some areas were far more cash based than others.
different-church-lady
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Found it last night; planning to look again tonight.
Comets are so FREAKY…
?BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne: Thanks, I think it’s one of my best(even though it was a bit underexposed).
Jo Jo las Orejas
@Baud:
Adiós. Mi mamá y yo vamos a dar un paseo. Ella ha estado triste hoy por el Sr. Lewis. Volveremos y escucharemos música. Me gustan Leonard Cohen y Van Morrison. Ten una buena tarde.
TS (the original)
@Eric U.:
That would be a definite yes.
NotMax
@Matt McIrvin
Couldn’t help but stare through the train window at the slogan when passing by.
beth
I’ve worked in finance in hospitality my whole career and have never seen bills like this. First off no one bills day by day; meetings are billed in full at the end in one master invoice. It also makes no sense because hotels don’t deposit money by individual account every day. All the money collected goes in together. So any payment received from a campaign gets lumped in with cash from the bars/restaurants and any other place to spend money on property. This looks more like trying to skirt FEC campaign finance rules, rather than banking rules. Are there campaign reporting limits on campaigns like there are for bank deposits?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: Yes.
Jo Jo las Orejas
@Baud:
Estoy meneando la cola. Me siento para el queso.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Wait; so Trump is screwing his own reelection campaign? And if he does get re-elected, what then because of the term limits?
different-church-lady
So, I know this isn’t going to make any sense, but I am
convincedunder the delusion that I now am in possession of Martha Mitchell’s drinks cart.?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady:
They are and considered a good or bad omen.
The Great Comet of 1066(now known as Halley’s Comet) was considered a bad omen by the English court of Harold, it was.
OTOH it was considered a good omen by William, Duke of Normandy, it was.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kristine: Thanks.
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Exchange heard on an old movie viewed the other day:
(holding up a decanter of colored liquid) “Can I offer you a drink?”
“I prefer neutral spirits. The others are prone to take sides.”
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
One makes their own luck.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@NotMax: Driven past that bridge many times, and always wonder the same thing: What the hell does Trenton make that they think the world wants?
@NotMax: A Thin Man movie? Sounds like the kind of thing William Powell would say.
dexwood
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: we are fans of a Dutch vodka, Effin, offering flavored vodkas. The cucumber is nice. The blackcherry rings our bells. Kept in the freezer, slowly sipped shot every two or three months, we’re old, very nice.
Subsole
@Uncle Cosmo:
Trump Cult Nut Job
debbie
@StringOnAStick:
If he’s transferring to a credit card to pay off/down debt, they wouldn’t look any further.
Subsole
@Uncle Cosmo: The “b” is the one that looks like an “x” fucking an “h”, right?
Baud
@Subsole: Russian ABCs are hard core.
NotMax
@Ceci n est pas mon nym
State capital and a city so unappealing that the governor’s mansion is located in Princeton.
;)
Subsole
@Ken: I’m hoping we decimate CBP, Roman style.
Ar least you’re probably gonna get your wish.
debbie
@beth:
I think if it’s above a certain amount, the campaign has to report the donor.
Ken
Old news. He was doing this with the election campaign four years ago. There was reporting that he was yelling at some campaign manager for spending “his” money on ads.
Ironically, this time around they’re spending money on DC market ads targeted at Trump, to make him feel better.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@dexwood: there’s a van gogh espresso flavored vodka that’s dangerously tasty
@NotMax: “Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.” Ron Effin Swanson
Geminid
It’s game on in the Virginia 7th Congressional District. The republicans held a 12hr convention today to choose a candidate to oppose Representative Abigail Spanberger, and the winner was Nick Freitas, a state delegate from Culpepper. Freitas is backed by the Club for Growth, who really miss Dave Brat, the Ayn Rand follower Spanberger knocked out in 2018. Spanberger has a $4 million dollar war chest. Going into 2016 the Republicans had 8 Virginia congressman to the Democrats’ 3, thanks to gerrymandering. Then a federal judge ordered the 4th District redrawn and the excellent Don McEachin took the seat that year. And in 2018 Jennifer Wexton, Elaine Luria, and Ms. Spanberger defeated incumbent republicans. The GOP will go all out against Spanberger.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: That’s bunk.
CaseyL
I… kind of wonder what happens to Parscale if they decide to find shenanigans in his account books (because if they want to, they will).
Does he have enough dirt on the Trump Crime Syndicate to ensure his continuing physical safety?
Or will he have an unfortunate accident in one of his Ferraris?
Leto
@NotMax:
Avalune and I made watermelon vodka a few years back. Soooo yummie! I don’t know about the premade stuff, but could be nice.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: I went through Trenton on the train in 1985, when we crossed the river, there was a big sign “Trenton makes the world takes”. A few miles down the track was a big factory, the sign said “American Standard”.
beth
@debbie: For donations, sure. But what about expenses? Would they have to give a detailed report of a payment of $380,000 but not one of $8000? It wouldn’t be unusual for a resort like Mar-a-Lago to regularly have deposits over $10,000. That’s why it looks more like avoiding campaign finance rules to me.
Leto
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
– Duke Silver
dexwood
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: You devil.
NotMax
@Ceci n est pas mon nym
Nope. Poverty Row B-minus flick, although will readily admit some of the dialogue is quite snappy.
Female lead for much of it also sports what may well be the ugliest hat of the 1940s.
Subsole
@Kay:
If they try that shit during a Biden admin, I expect it will be the last thing they ever do. I actually could see the tattered remnant of White America’s patience with our loud, ugly, racist asshole demographic evaporating after another OKC bombing.
They fucked the economy, fed us to a plague, sold us to the bratva, stole our cash, made us a joke before all the nations, turned our home into a child-trafficking ring and then CBP tried to throw us all in jail and drive off in America.
If it turns out they cultivated a white power terror network on American soil that is actively killing people???
Yeah. I think the backlash could be severe. Especially if a miracle happens and Johnny Paleface figures out being white ain’t gonna save his ass.
Then again I am probably just being incredibly naive.
Ken
Nonsense, they’re perfectly simple once you’ve learned the proto-Sinaitic alphabet, though it helps to also know the archaic Greek letterforms.
NotMax
@Leto
We used to get hold of a large whole watermelon, cut a plug out of one end, stand it up on the other and stick an upended a bottle of vodka into the opening. Kept in a walk-in refrigerator, after a few days the watermelon flesh would become ghostly pale, the signal it was ready to be eaten.
debbie
@beth:
According to opensecrets.org, “Campaigns must report to the FEC the purpose and payee of all disbursements over $200.”
Subsole
@Baud: Obama fucking begged folks to vote and…
They wrote in Harambe.
…
Yeah. Still mad.
Like, I offhandedly wonder what effect this constant anger at everyone and everything is having on my long-term health.
Would be interested in reading a study on the effects of this stress on the public.
Subsole
@zhena gogolia: A fair point and a ray of hope.
I was thinking more of the majority that sat at home, though.
jl
I need to find my copy of Brecht’s The Private Life of the Master Race. There are a few scenes that exactly describe life amongst the Trumpsters, IIRC.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
You’ll get over your allergies if you read the comments (hint: don’t).
Subsole
@different-church-lady:
Vodkano.
Sorry. I had to.
Leto
@NotMax: We did something similar. Took a melon, scooped out part of it, put it in a mason jar, poured the vodka in, let it sit for about 5 days, then used a cheese cloth to strain the pulp out.
Kristine
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:A
Or Cary Grant in Topper.
Subsole
@Baud: I seen what you done there.
Subsole
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s like the worm in tequila, but with an ear.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Leto: Madame does that with plums, nice purple color.
NotMax
@Leto
Chef John’s watermelon agua fresca is nice.
Tried making it with cantaloupe instead (found it needed additional dilution) and was pleased with the result.
NotMax
@NotMax
Bad linky. Fix.
watermelon agua fresca
jl
@Baud: “maybe alcohol kills the virus.”
Stale beer is the new hydroxy
Elizabelle
That makes sense. Brecht was writing in the runup to the Third Reich.
Was hoping the play was available free online ..
ETA: This looks good. Lot of information about the play and the culture/events that inspired it. They just call it “Private Life.”
http://privatelifedramaturgy.weebly.com
Betty
@Robert Sneddon: I read that the issue is the credit card system used at Mar-a-Lago.
Kropacetic
Yup, this is called structuring and is frequently mentioned as “something to look out for” in training on fraud and money laundering.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Now we know how the Baud administration would be different than the Trump administration.
Uncle Cosmo
@StringOnAStick: You’re next.
raven
The stinkin jankees are on.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
I think you and my brother are the only people in the world who could sit through that.
Yutsano
@Kent:IIt’s transfers from one person to another. I believe spouses are exempted although the method I would use to research that. Unfortunately the tools I would need to do that are at my office and I got kicked out of it again…
Jeffro
@spudgun: appreciate it, and you’re right, but just ignore him. I do.
Misterpuff
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Double Expresso is awesome. And better than Red Bull.
spudgun
@Jeffro: I try but it’s difficult – I hate bullies and he’s one of the biggest.
@Uncle Cosmo: FUCK YOU, you enormous, hateful, disgusting, diseased piece of SHIT.
CarolPW
@Uncle Cosmo: Pie.
Jean
@Geminid: We live in Spanberger’s district. I’m fairly confident she’ll win. I’m seeing more political signs in my Republican neighborhood, all Spanberger and BLM signage. One Bye-Don sign, ha.
Bruuuuce
@Subsole:
You mean, like all their folks who are LEOs, in the armed forces, and related groups? Despite written rules about keeping those nutjobs out, far too many are in, like the Sgts union boss here in NYC, as mentioned earlier.
I am not sanguine about what happens if they call for a shooting war.
The Moar You Know
@Subsole: That network has existed since at least the 1970s and, even if you take OKC out of the picture, has killed a lot more people than you might think.
Bruuuuce
@raven: Yeah, but so are the Amazin’s. It balances, for those who are not fans of the Yanks
Another Scott
@beth: It looks very strange.
https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00618389/1425029/sb/ALL/1 is the first of 3 pages at the FEC. The first page shows a $560,268.39 payment to the Four Seasons (along with a bunch of others over several months), but the ones to the Trump Organization on page 3 are all $10k or less.
It doesn’t smell right.
But the FEC was told about it – it’s on their web site. The numbers are under the bank reporting level, so that seems to have been the reason…
(… cough … money laundering … cough …)
Cheers,
Scott.
Jeffro
@debbie: it’s called the Bank Secrecy Act, and it covers more than just reporting cash transactions over $10k.
Banks and credit unions often err on the side of reporting rather than not, since there’s no down side to them doing so.
WaterGirl
@spudgun: I know it’s frustrating, but I’m pretty sure that qualifies as a personal attack. So it might be a good idea to dial that back a bit? :-)
NotMax
@Misterpuff
The hydroxychloroquine flavor is a loser.
:)
Jeffro
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’ve been trying for a few nights now and can’t seem to get the cloud cover here to cooperate! Here’s hoping tomorrow is clearer.
I think the DC region actually has two more nights where one can see Neowise and the ISS at the same time: tomorrow just before 11pm and Monday just after 10pm. Fingers crossed!
Jeffro
@Geminid: it helps that Freitas is, um, nuts.
I’ll be busy trying to help Cameron Webb win the 5th but I’ll definitely send Abigail Spanberger a donation as well.
Matt McIrvin
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Every night, there are clouds covering the exact part of the sky where the comet is. Would have to make it a road trip, might resort to that.
spudgun
@WaterGirl: Thanks for the vote of confidence – I’m out.
WaterGirl
@jl: I hear that if you inject it, it kills the virus, or shines a bright light, or something.
You know, I think these is a way that’s not exactly injecting, there’s some special name for it, perhaps we should ask Justice would be rapist Kavanaugh what that’s called. He was apparently an early adopter.
edit: my computer highlights Kavanaugh as being misspelled – I wonder if it’s because even the spell checker knows that piece of shit has no right to be a supreme court justice.
NotMax
@raven
I believe the traditional appellation is damn.
;)
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: Only the cursive is truly hardcore.
frosty
@different-church-lady: You’re not the only one. Fortunately because of the pandemic I have no bar bills … but the liquor store, that’s another matter.
WaterGirl
@spudgun: Please don’t do that. It was not my intention to offend you. Truly.
Matt McIrvin
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: In the first half of the 20th century, Trenton was still a major manufacturing center. (According to Wikipedia they made “rubber, wire rope, ceramics and cigars.”)
frosty
Way back when I was a cost/scheduling engineer, the cost guys had a line item for that called NTB: Needed To Balance
NotMax
@Matt Irvin
The professor could have patched the hole in the Minnow with those.
:)
Another Scott
@Betty: rofl.
But that seems to be correct.
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-taxpayers-covered-liquor-bill-for-trump-staffers-and-more-mar-a-lago (from May 1, 2019)
We solved the mystery for Farenthold!!
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Uncle Cosmo
And now you’ll be steaming for hours. Maybe tossing & turning all night. Maybe angry for days. While I won’t lose a minute of sleep over one self-confessed lurker’s verbal meltdown. Well played!
Srsly, if you need an electronic pond where never is heard an even slightly discouraging word, not even when someone has posted something egregiously stupid or flat-out wrong, you might consider dragging your lily pad over to the Great Orange Satan, which I abandoned years ago for precisely that reason.
Steeplejack
There’s a pretty good overview of QAnon by Adrienne LaFrance in the June issue of The Atlantic.
Elizabelle
John Lewis is up on the Robert E Lee monument tonight. Beautiful color photo of him.
Richmond, VA
frosty
@Subsole: See dcl at comment #63 for reactions to stress.
Kay
We’ve all just had it with these people.
Patricia Kayden
spudgun
@WaterGirl: You’re defending and enabling a bully – that’s what I see. So don’t mind me—
Ken
@Another Scott: In this case it doesn’t appear to be money laundering, just typical Trumpian corruption and self-dealing. However, the billing suggests that they know how to do money laundering, or at least to avoid the banking triggers.
One of the other comments says they’re blaming the Mar-a-Lago billing system, which makes me wonder why the requirements for the billing system happen to be tailor-made to dodge reporting requirements. (Sort of like when Volkswagen claimed the unusual behavior of their vehicles was a coding error.)
Ladyraxterinok
@Elizabelle:
It is free online. See dramaonlinelibrary.com
The site seems to be set up esp for teachers, loys of articles, etc. Had no idea it existed!
I found this by typing in the words free online brecht fear and misery in the third reich (check exact title) (maybe no spacing between words of title)
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Kay:
With the lawmakers on Twitter or Tapper?
Another Scott
@Ken: Yeah. It is convenient, isn’t it, that their CC system can only process bills up to the banking reporting limit, isn’t it? :-/ (See the ProPublic story I linked later.)
But, it’s probably just Donnie grabbing all the money he can, not money laundering or tax evasion, in this case. They reported the payments to the FEC, so it would be hard for them not to claim it as income if the IRS asks.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]
I seem to remember a similar event with an Islamic terrorist group in Egypt. The CIA managed to get into their financial records and transfer funds between factions, making it look like one faction was stealing money from another. The terrorist group essentially destroyed itself by assassinating each other’s top faction leaders over the transfers.
Anyone remember the group?
Uncle Cosmo
@CarolPW: I never understood the attraction of the pie filter. Are there really people on the Internet in 2020 so exquisitely sensitive to things people post that they have to make sure they never ever see them?
I might’ve pied a couple nyms early on, but I walked that back fairly quickly. Among other things, I found the various pastrylike permutations more annoying than just about anything anyone might type. Also, I prefer to retain the option of pointing & mocking – & in my experience, just about anyone I find annoying enough to mock is massively mockable.
(I realize you probably won’t see this, since you have me pied, but just on the off chance you decide to peek…)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Elizabelle: in Charlottesville?
Found a tweet.
Patricia Kayden
@Kay: I wish Tapper would emphasize that these heartless lawmakers are Republican and that this is the conservative brand. It starts with a President who has taken zero responsibility for his mismanagement of the Coronavirus.
Patricia Kayden
@Elizabelle: I thought the Lee statue had been taken down. Disappointed that it’s still up.
Jeffro
@spudgun: Come on back when you’re ready and ignore the folks who act out. I think there’s even a pie filter thingy that helps with that if need be. ;)
Kay
·
Both Senators is different, and more serious risk for the Trump thugs. I don’t think the senators are going away.
Elizabelle
@Patricia Kayden: The Lee statue has a court date on the 23rd there was an injunction against taking it down before that. Interestingly, the judge who granted the indefinite in Junction has recused himself, and he’s got some very questionable writings from when he was a student at the University of Richmond. I think this monuments days are numbered, but I do not know how long. In the meantime it is a Fabulous canvas for protest art and video. Just saw John Lewis’s speech at the march on Washington. Very good use of Mr. R.E Lee.
Kay
@Jeffro:
How dare you? :)
Gin & Tonic
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Just got back, as it’s been the first clear-enough evening in a while. It is, indeed, very cool.
mrmoshpotato
@Uncle Cosmo:
Le sigh. Trump Cult Nut Job
Kay
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
With the lawmakers. Jake Tapper loathes Trump. Every day he’s “you, sir, are a LIAR”
It doesn’t matter. Like water off a duck’s back to these people. But I suppose it’s important to try.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: No Jaws for you today?
Jeffro
@Kay: I know, I know…I’ll try harder tomorrow. =)
Subsole
@Bruuuuce:
If we are aware of them, we can fire them. Permanently.
Yes. At that point they become unemployed insurgents. However, a LOT of this shit is happening because they know there will be no consequences. If they suddenly lose their get out of jail free card, they might get a little reluctant.
I am thinking most of these assholes want prey, not a fight.
I expect to see a massive crackdown on that shit, along with one against white-collar crime.
If we win.
Subsole
@The Moar You Know: I believe it.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
Hold by my firm belief that our distant ancestors came out of the ocean for good reason, thus I see no cause at all to go back in.
;)
zhena gogolia
@mrmoshpotato:
They’re being disingenuous.
Subsole
@Kay: Really, Jake? You don’t get it? The horrible reality just soared right OVER your beautifully-sculpted ‘do, huh? Kinda like it did when Carly Fiorina said Democrats chop up babies and sell them for parts, huh pumpkin?
Bet you’d understand if he was a Democrat, you scumbag…
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Are you saying you never take a dip in the snow storm that constantly surrounds Hawaii?
Jay
Gravenstone
@Kay: Nice thought. Assumes McConnell even allows it to come to the floor. He’s, as always, the true impediment here.
Jay
@Subsole:
when we win, not if.
yes, they are in Canada too.
burn all their playhouses down, salt the earth where they stood.
Kay
@Gravenstone:
Oh, I think it’s powerful whether it “works” immediately or not. That’s the point of “senators”, what they’re doing. This is a foundational idea. They actually represent the state in this context, in the very purest and simplest way. The transactional mechanics – fixing it or not fixing it- are a small part of what’s at stake here.
Keith P.
@Kay: Why is a bill for this needed when Posse Comitatus already should?
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
Not even once.
Bruuuuce
@Subsole:
Sure. Assuming they’re not running the asylums they’re in. And even so, probably after they do massive damage (that’s the way infiltrators work; when they become public, it’s usually a major event). If we’d had functional government at all levels that cared about white supremacists and their ilk in those positions, we wouldn’t be here. But we are, so we need to be prepared to deal with it.
Steeplejack
@Keith P.:
I think posse comitatus specifically covers the military. These agencies are not part of the military.
JaySinWA
@Keith P.: Because these are not US military troops. These are federal officers.
NotMax
@Keith P.
Posse Comitatus applies to military deployment, not necessarily to federal ‘police’ units
Another Scott
Dying thread, but the latest open one. So, this goes here.
Good thread.
tl;dr – Georgia is plotting maps of cases over time, but changing the legend over time and thereby hiding the changes.
Cheers,
Scott.
debbie
@Another Scott:
This facile lying does not bode well for the country. How will we ever trust anything ever again?
Elizabelle
@Ladyraxterinok: Thank you! Look forward to reading this play.
Appreciate knowing about the site.
The Moar You Know
@Keith P.: CBP isn’t military.
Subsole
@Jay: Hope so. It will take time. We have to keep people voting like 2018 for the next decade. If the momentum stalls at all, we’re done.
I really, really wish I knew how to do that. The American electorate is not what you’d call blessed with a generous attention span. Or even a measurable one, most times.
Still, we do what we can.
Subsole
@Bruuuuce: Ok. And how do we deal with it? I think firing people who have generously taken their madks off is dealing with it – or at least a component of dealing with it?
What else do we need to do?
Subsole
@Another Scott:
Yep. That’s gonna hang them, in the end. They KNOW they’re wrong, else why hide it?
Even they don’t actually believe themselves.
Jay
@Subsole:
back in the 80’s, the last Nazi Arising, several private “clubs”, and the Croatatian Cultural Center were, ( almost pre-internet), the locus of Nazi Orgs.
YVR is on it’s 14th Croatian “Cultural” Center, ‘cause all the previous ones burned down.
Funny that, they don’t host Nazi’s anymore.
”Private” clubs don’t either. Several fires.
Jay
Jay
Subsole
@Jay: Oh. What a shame. :)
Jay
Jay
@Subsole:
yeah, funny how insurance riders work.
Yutsano
@Jay: Going with that (warning: FTFNYT) it turns out the DHS agents aren’t even trained to handle crowds. When the Biden administration takes over (if Allah wills it PBUH) this shit needs to go on the list to be investigated. I’m beyond livid at this.
Subsole
@Jay: Croatia, huh? Yeah, I can see that as shorthand. This one dude I met at a flea market did the same thing, but with Rhodesia. THAT was a trip. Nice guy, did a little patter, bought a knife, then he starts making comments about Rhodesia and being a man among boys and I was like nooooope, I have read the history on that one, mate. Totally blindsided me. Like, I think he was fishing for recruits or something.
Bill Arnold
@CaseyL:
He wouldn’t be stealing from Trump unless he had sufficient retaliatory dirt. That’s what makes his lavish living particularly intriguing. Mutual assured destruction; the top level players have dirt WMDs pointed at each other.
Or he’s just dumb, but I don’ think he’s that dumb.
Subsole
@Yutsano: I feel like I’m back in 2004 because I want to desecrate George Bush’s grave for this shit all over again.
Lord I wish America would stop worrying so much about looking macho and just listen to the people who tried to warn them.
Wait, is this what raising kids is like?
Jay
Subsole
@Jay: Well, when you keep building things out of flammable material…
Jay
@Subsole:
in the late ‘40’s to the ‘70’s, we, like the rest of the NATO Bloc, took in a bunch of “anti-communist” former Yugloslavs, as “ anti Comminist”, but the reality, was that many were Nazis.
Our National Security Estabbilshments, then Embedded them in the National Security State.
Marcopolo
The thread upstairs is supposed to be travel oriented so…if anyone is still looking at comments here another poll just dropped:
Reminder that polls are a snapshot in time, but many of the polling nerds are now pointing out that this year’s results are now entering historically uncharted water: since modern polling began there are no examples where one candidate has consistently had this big of a lead at 110 days out from the election.
Jay
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
Comments seem to indicate that it could be incompetence more than malfeasance. But neither is acceptable.
FlyingToaster
@Uncle Cosmo:
It helps us ignore trolls. If nobody responds to a troll, it goes the fuck away.
Bye, Felicia.
Jay
Jay
Matt McIrvin
@Uncle Cosmo:
A pest who posts once is a minor annoyance. If the same pest posts their shit 300 times, it gets really hard to restrain yourself from feeding the troll and just giving the whole thread over to argument with the troll, and then the forum’s ruined. Unless you have some way of putting the pest out of sight, out of mind.
This stuff has its origin in newsgroup killfiles, whose original purpose was to make the spew produced by the very first spammers invisible so that the stuff you wanted to read wasn’t buried in 20 times as much spam.
Jay
@Matt McIrvin: ! ?????
The Lodger
@?BillinGlendaleCA: American Standard? Clearly the bridge isn’t long enough to indicate what the world is taking.
Jay
No fucks left to give:
evodevo
@Subsole: Yep. I have run into the same thing a couple times at black powder events…I guess all those Rhodesian and South African white supremacists had to go somewhere…
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@Subsole: yes to your question about raising kids, also I feel like l did after 9/11 when W used it to create the Department of Homeland security when agencies already existed Just that word “Homeland” gives it a vaguely fascist sound to me. Maybe I am just paranoid (shrugs)
dopey-o
@spudgun:
I saw that TCNJ abbreviation and immediately knew it meant Trump (something) Nut Job. Reading BJ is like eating chocolate cake for me. Snotty vicious dickwad comments are like frosting.
No One You Know
@Subsole: My optician remarked that she can see periods of high stress in the past written in my retinas.