smdh there obama goes again driving a big wedge between people who don’t want racism noticed and people who would like racism to end pic.twitter.com/5RI0aVMuRt
— kilgore trout, new tone haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 31, 2020
Somewhere between the 499th and 500th cycle about whether Biden will lose the center under pressure from the left, it will dawn on ppl that it's the president who has (at present) fallen for that trap, trying himself so closely to the most radical that the swing voters have swung
— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) July 30, 2020
Let’s not mince words on this one: Americans are dead because the Trump administration wanted to use this pandemic for political gain. pic.twitter.com/YM8CSuF43x
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) July 31, 2020
If we're already at the 'ban TikTok' stage of campaigning on desperate failing anti-China xenophobia there's a chance that before this is over Trump might actually shoot a panda.
— Galar Regional Medical Director (@weedlewobble) August 1, 2020
How to tick tack pic.twitter.com/1Mn8nk363f
— Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) July 31, 2020
OzarkHillbilly
Blech. Wake me when it’s over.
Baud
NotMax
“Whaddaya mean I banned Tic Tacs? We’ve got to put a lid on this NOW! Tell Jared to drop whatever it is he does and get his pasty butt in here this minute!”
m.j.
The video shows a black guy with the mask under his nose.
Don’t fall for this. It’s easy to shit on Trump.
These are still Republicans and they are the problem.
Don’t give me any of this, “enemy of my enemy,” bullshit.
OzarkHillbilly
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Dorothy A. Winsor
How would banning Tik Tok work? Wouldn’t that take elaborate blocking technology? I suddenly find I have no idea how things work.
On another topic, my publisher, Inspired Quill, will be open for submissions in Sept. This is the first time in two years they’ve opened. They’re a small press, so the distribution is limited, but they treat me well. If you’re interested, consult their website and mark your calendar.
OzarkHillbilly
The Lincoln Project@ProjectLincoln
Impotus Americanus is one of the heaviest leaders in the animal kingdom, and is famously known to be an orange, ruddy color not found in nature.
ETA with Attenboroughesque voice over
Brachiator
I guess it’s inevitable that Trump will stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot a panda. Fox News will carry it live.
Ken
@Dorothy A. Winsor: You could disable the apps using the certification process. That’s happened a number of times, usually when malware is detected but sometimes for criminal activity.
They’d need to get the device companies involved, meaning Apple would get to choose between Trump’s tantrum and the country that makes all their hardware. I’d expect them to split the difference by going to court, figuring in six months it will be moot.
In theory you could block the servers, but that’s hard. As has famously been said, the network treats censorship as a failure and routes around it. The Chinese have that capability but they built the “great firewall”. They also have a huge number of people and programs monitoring internal content.
OzarkHillbilly
I don’t know but the Chinese ban stuff on the internet all the time.
ETA And Ken competently answered your question with knowledge. What a f’n elitist.
Chris Johnson
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It would work to make a hell of a lot of Generation Z kids think Trump is a fucking fascist.
If he was less dumb, he might be able to effectively be a crypto-fascist, but there are a hell of a lot of people out there (including, sadly, former friends of mine) who are not smart enough to be crypto-fascist. To do that you have to be able to comprehend opposing arguments and weasel around them. Trump is able to comprehend nothing: his brain is goddamn rotted cheese.
I hope he pushes the anti-mask thing as hard as he can, plus hydroxychloroquine and bleach. It does serious physical damage to our enemies. And Putin doesn’t stop him, because it’s doing serious physical damage to Americans… but right now, it’s more like a bright line between Americans and ‘Confederates’, and I’d just as soon see Putin’s shock troops go down.
I would rather see them subject to the justice system, but things are more than a little out of hand, and you work with what ya got.
NotMax
Bit of an oddity from the recesses of history.
Eleanor lets her hair down, so to speak.
Ken
LIke someone who drops “Attenboroughesque” into conversation has room to talk.
BTW could it actually be Attenborough in the PL ad? He’s still alive.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ken: I don’t think it’s actually him, the voice sounds a little deeper than DA. It’s a nice touch tho.
Ken
I’d love to see the spin trying to explain how he actually meant to drop the gun with the safety off and shoot himself in the foot.
OzarkHillbilly
Something fun to read about:
They do have style.
Another Scott
@Dorothy A. Winsor: There are some legitimate security concerns with Tik-Tok and many government agencies have banned employees using it on government phones.
https://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2020/03/senators-propose-barring-tiktok-government-devices/163771/
But Donnie is getting involved because he’s butthurt and because he needs daily distractions and must always feed his ego by being in the news.
Cheers,
Scott.
JPL
Microsoft is close to a deal to purchase Tik Tok, but trump doesn’t care. He still wants to ban it, because he’s afraid of Sarah.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
Phrasing!
:)
(We really need to cobble together a different term.)
prostratedragon
@Brachiator: Or Sunset Boulevard.
NotMax
@prostratedragon
“I’m still big. It’s the country that got small.”
//
Lee
Fyi there is a report of Rep Bass heaping praise on Scientology at a ribbon cutting event in 2010.
That to me is a disqualifier
John S.
@m.j.: I don’t think anybody here believes the Republicans at the Lincoln Project are our pals. But they are doing valuable work to help get Trump and other Republicans out of office this election, and I’m not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Democrats should be taking notes and understanding how to run effective operations like this in the future when the Lincoln Project starts running ads against Democrats again.
debbie
I don’t know if it’s because I’m in a reddish state, but I’m disappointed there hasn’t been a more vociferous response to Jarvanka’s campaign plan to kill off libtards.
JPL
Tomorrow trump might sign his health care plan and soon he’ll sign his immigration plan, but today he’s banning tik tok. Oh and he asked Brazil to help him win the election.
debbie
@JPL:
I’ve been working too much and haven’t kept up. Has his “health” care plan been unveiled?
Mary G
Alexander Vindman lets Twitler have it in the WaPo:
JPL
@Lee: Mediaite has the clip of her at the ribbon cutting.
link
Spanky
@Lee:
Personally I’m hoping for Harris. Having said that, the quote I read from a Scientology church ribbon cutting sounded totally anodyne. Certainly not “heaping”.
Stop it with the puke funnel.
PsiFighter37
@Lee: Not a report – the video is there on Twitter. Not a huge fan that it appears the Daily Caller is doing a better job than Biden’s vetting team is.
debbie
@m.j.:
Sure, turn your back on someone fighting Trump. Go it alone and see how far you’ll get.
Stable the purity ponies and welcome whatever help is out there. Too much is at stake.
JPL
@debbie: No, but he said yesterday, he might sign it Sunday.
PsiFighter37
@Spanky: She should have known better than to show up to anything related to Scientology. It’s a cult.
Ken
“President Bolsonaro had no comment, as his lungs are filled with a fungal infection due to a weakened immune system caused by taking hydroxychloroquine.”
Ken
@JPL: TRUMP: “We’re going to be doing a very inclusive health care plan. I’ll be signing it very soon.”
There’s definitely no bill from Congress. Does he think he can create a health care plan by executive order?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@JPL: Sign what? Like a bill? That will certainly surprise Congress.
Spanky
@PsiFighter37: She’s a politician. Politicians need to show up for their constituents. I thought she did a pretty good job avoiding most of the Scientology shit and zeroing in on the one aspect of L. Ron’s creed that said all people are created equal. She rode that little pony through her whole mini-speech.
Mary G
Sad measly turnout to greet Twitler in Tampa. Love the one guy in the back by the fan.
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: Everybody already knew that was their long term plan.
debbie
@JPL:
? will be signing piles of blank pages, just like his “taxes,” I guess.
Spanky
@Mary G: I figure the guy in the back by the fan is a Democrat who was just diagnosed with the ‘Rona, and this is his way of contributing to the Trump campaign
ETA: Or at least that would be me, if I were in such unfortunate circumstances. Like living in FLA.
Ken
@Mary G: It almost looks like they forgot to tell anyone, other than the invited sheriffs and the press.
Dorothy A. Winsor
To keep my brain from rotting this week, I started taking Duolingo Spanish. It just sent me email saying I learned 147 words this week. Hola! Por favor! Sombrero!
ThresherK
@Mary G: I’m getting a Frank Drebin vibe, when Trump step up to the mic and everyone in attendance on the tarmac is really here to see Weird Al Yankovic.
NotMax
@Dorothy A. Winsor
Cerveza. Tamale. Charo!
;)
OzarkHillbilly
@Dorothy A. Winsor: And the most important phrase, “Por favor, donde es el bano?”
Sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Soon you’ll be able to converse with Jojo!
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: My “big three” phrases for travel would be:
Although after the last few years, maybe I should change the last to the Canadian embassy.
Ken
“No, Daddy, you committed yourself. See? Here’s your signature on the papers.”
“I don’t remember that….”
“Yes, the memory thing. That’s why you committed yourself. We had a long family meeting about that and you decided it would be best. Don’t you remember?”
“I… I don’t remember that….”
“Oh come on, Dad-Sir. What do you think happened, we found a blank sheet of paper with your signature and printed the committal paperwork on it?” (Fredo is hushed by the other two.)
Mo MacArbie
I was watching Mexican League soccer for a while around the time of the World Cup. It eventually dawned on me why every team seemed to have a guy named Pelota.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Brachiator:
He’ll either have it done or someone will hold up the weight of the weapon and aim it for him. Fat Lord Fauntleroy can’t be bothered with active work on any muscle, and effort fatigues him.
Sloane Ranger
@Ken: No. It’s definitely not Attenborough. In fact I don’t think the narrator is English, just putting on the accent. Good attempt though, although not as good as John Hillerman’s Higgins.
WereBear
@John S.:
Wouldn’t it be pretty to think so?
The problem in this is not Democratic incompetence. The entire corporate media empire is based on denying them any outlet if they are anything but weak and ineffectual.
The Lincoln Project is about getting rid of Trump, but that is where the alliance ends. They are doing it to save the Republican party, whatever demonic form and name that might take.
The Progressive movement, like it or hate it, came from alternate forms of media which reached new people with harsh truths. It was ruthlessly policed by right wing/corporate media (but I repeat myself) but managed to break through anyway.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ken: Once stopped at a roadside food stand/restaurant on the Pan/Am highway when one of the gals asked for the bathroom. The owner/cook/waiter turned around and pointed to a hole in the wall. Not a window opening, not a doorway, a literal hole in the wall that one had to bend over and waddle thru, going to a roofless rubble filled room with a hole in the floor.
Nothing but the finest facilities.
TS (the original)
Don’t know about anyone else but I found the LR video stunning. I hope trump is seeing each and every one of them.
Danielx
@debbie:
It’s amazing how flexible a period “two weeks” can be.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Lee:
Her age is my disqualifier, along with her lack of significant management experience of a large agency.
Too many olds for too long, too many long term hobbyhorses.
Kamala Harris all the way.
Emma from FL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s actually a pretty good way to start learning or reviving a language you once knew. I’m doing French revision at the moment. That and the Tex French grammar program at UT have done it for me.
Ken
@Danielx:
We are in year three of infrastructure week.
(Which makes me realize what a stupid phrase that was to begin with. You don’t fix all this country’s infrastructure problems in a week.)
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
Step up from the (and I use the term loosely) motel we found ourselves in when stranded by an automotive breakdown in Brazil, which offered the amenity of a muddy open trench running down the middle of the patch of bare ground separating the two facing rows of (using a different word even more loosely) cabins.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@NotMax: Holy shit. … Wait.
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: @NotMax: Hah. I can top both those stories. I was in some tropical hellhole once, staying at a so-called “resort,” and they used plastic spoons to serve the caviar.
mrmoshpotato
Good day/time in your country to all!
Danielx
@Ken:
Infrastructure week is so 2018.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: Ha — in one of the graphics —
Species: Oompa Loompicus
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
I was once having an issue during a stop in Mexico (our bus between the port and Mayan ruins at Chacchoben, near the Belize border had stopped at a roadside market). I’d brought a nasty gut bug with me on that trip that had gotten a little better, but there was a resurgence on the bus ride. Conditions were…less than perfect.
Given what was happening, I’d have probably preferred an Asian toilet.
NotMax
@Dorothy A. Winsor
Well, it was 1961. No electricity at the place either.
When in Rome….
SiubhanDuinne
@Ken:
Tik Tok, motherfucker.
NotMax
@Ken
OMFG. A sight which once seen cannot be unseen.
:)
Aleta
@SiubhanDuinne: ⭐️ ❤️
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: Hey! I think I’ve been there! No, wait a minute, that was Mexico too.
Actually never spent much time in h/motels in Mexico, with the exception of the Hotel Taninul outside of Valles. Sitting out at the stinky pool drinking cervecas fria served by senoritas muy hermosa…. What better way to sooth the aches and scrapes of a weeks worth of chopping jungle?
*My picture* hung in the lobby for about a decade or so. (It was actually a quite nice picture of the very expansive main room in the cave above the hotel, I was the very small unidentifiable figure in the bottom left of center, pic was taken by a fellow caver)
mrmoshpotato
@OzarkHillbilly: Stylin’!
mrmoshpotato
@JPL:
The reality is that that might actually be the reason. And that’s beyond fucked up, even for a Soviet shitpile mobster manbaby.
Another Scott
@WereBear: Dunno.
https://lincolnproject.us/
It’s a nice slogan. And defending the Constitution vitally is important. But they do not agree with our policy goals. (It will be interesting how much they stretch Constitutional arguments over policy differences – is universal health care “constitutional”?)
That’s fine, and we need to have genuine, good-faith arguments about policy to move forward.
tl;dr – They’re not Democrats. But they are allies in getting rid of Trumpists of all stripes.
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Went pandemicic?
OzarkHillbilly
@Ken: HA! I’ve got a caviar story too. Was caving with some Arkie friends and one of them pulled out a tin of caviar he brought back from Russia to share with everyone. As each person took the smallest of not so adventurous nibbles, their faces screwed up in disgust. When the can got to me, I was like, “Ya bunch of scaredy cat pansies, how bad can it be?” and took a man sized bite.
It wasn’t a NY second later when everything I had eaten for the past week was banging on my pharynx to vacate the premises post haste. I somehow someway managed to keep it all down, but that was some of the most vile shit I’ve ever eaten.
It had to have gone bad because no way could people actually convince themselves that that was some kind of delicacy. Or could they?
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: With all of the mask wearing, we don’t have faces anymore.
Just One More Canuck
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Dos cervezas for favor
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: I never thought I’d post this twice in a week.
JMG
@OzarkHillbilly: It had to be bad. Caviar should taste salty and fishy, that’s all.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
It’s sort of darkly ironic to recall all the lengths (and concomitant demonstrations) places like France endured to enact bans on the veil.
And now….
//
Ken
@JMG: Agreed that it had to be bad. Also agree with “that’s all” – I’ve had it a couple of times and never understood the fuss. Probably a lot of social signaling.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@mrmoshpotato:
I mean the thing is, she’s not that good and for me, lip-synching somebody is neither funny nor entertaining. It would fit, though, that the self-absorbed prick would wig out about it.
I’ll admit, I just don’t see the charm. To each their own, I guess.
mrmoshpotato
@Lee: I prefer praise of a cult artfully drizzled.
(Yes, it’s totally disqualifying, and I can’t imagine the attack ads that would be made.)
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly: It should be super mild.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Heh. Once got afflicted with the bug in a high mountain village. W/o getting into all the hilarious details, I found myself vacating my bowels in the middle of a road during a monsoon downpour at 6 AM. Up above me was a hut with a little girl in the doorway (3 y/o?) staring at this idiot gringo shitting in the road.
If only I’d had a peso for her thoughts.
m.j.
@debbie:
If I turn my back they will stab me.
Where were they during the Mueller investigation?
Where were they during impeachment?
You cannot trust Republicans. This much should be clear.
NotMax
@JMG
The best caviar can go off if you look at it funny.
;)
raven
@m.j.: Who gives a fuck, they aren’t trying to appeal to you anyway.
Ken
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: She used to play up the “drunk guy” more, I think that made it funnier. I thought the “Usual Suspects” callout for person-man-woman-camera-tv was pretty good too. But yes, when she’s just going through the motions (literally) it’s not that funny.
Ascap_scab
@Brachiator:
It won’t be Trump, he’s too chicken to do it. He’ll send Junior to do it.
Another Scott
This is my shocked, shocked face.
Cheers,
Scott.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: Yep! Ah, the good times.
WereBear
@Another Scott:
Lincoln Project:
I suspect that is where our policy goals stop being the same.
What is Trumpism? Isn’t it saying Republican things in an outside voice instead of dog whistles? Isn’t that playing into letting Republicans rebrand themselves yet again without changing a thing?
Are you assuming good faith?
Another Scott
@Another Scott: Relatedly, https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/510044-frustration-builds-as-negotiators-struggle-to-reach-covid-19-deal
She’s an animatronic caricature.
We have to vote them all out.
Cheers,
Scott.
Ken
@Another Scott: Didn’t that also happen with some newspaper’s regular “heartland voter” articles? It turned out that many of the people they interviewed worked for the Republican party – strange bit of luck randomly running into them in a Pennsylvania diner.
I’m also remembering that some of those people appeared in multiple interviews over a period of months.
Frankensteinbeck
@WereBear:
The progressive movement broke through the media because it attacks Democrats. Elizabeth Warren became a media darling because she looked like the next Sanders, tearing down the Democratic Party from within*. Notice that as it became more and more clear that Warren is a team player, the more she has been sidelined in the news to a name in ‘the progressive wing’ that the narrative assures us hates the Democratic Party.
*For these purposes, Sanders counts as a Democrat. In particular, he is good at poisoning young Democrats against the party.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
Pretty sure you nailed it in your comment, haha.
Another Scott
@WereBear: The LP folks are allies of convenience. That’s all.
I don’t think they are advertising geniuses that show Democrats how to campaign. I think they know how to push Donnie’s buttons, and they know how to appeal to strong partisans like us. But I doubt that 90% of marginally attached voters know or care who they are. If they help sway non-Democrats and help them recognize how horrible Donnie and his enablers are, then that’s a good thing.
Sometimes you have to temporarily align with the USSR to defeat a worse enemy.
Eyes on the prizes.
Cheers,
Scott.
(“Who has only seen a handful of their ads. And who is surprised that Bitecofer is a “Senior Adviser” for them.”)
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: I’m assuming they are still Republicans with the same old conservative low tax/free market/strong defense policies (to use their terms) that they’ve always held.
ETA: and that doesn’t make them our enemies, it makes them our political opponents
Another Scott
@Ken: Yup, it’s a common problem. An NPR News reporter has been caught a few times interviewing someone with strong ties to the GOP (and never mentioning it) as if they’re some average concerned Joe Everyman.
It needs to be called out, whoever does it.
Cheers,
Scott.
Miss Bianca
@OzarkHillbilly: Love it! That’s the funnest thing I’ve seen all week!
Mike in NC
Trump speaking about a soldier who went missing at Fort Hood, Texas: “So we’re going to look into it very powerfully”. Who the fuck talks like this? It’s like he is still struggling to master the English language at age 74. Jesus help us all.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: There was a long preceding night that led into it, I just gave the punch line, which really stands on it’s own.
mrmoshpotato
@John S.:
Psst. OMG Why Can’t Dems Go After Republicans Crazy-Hard Like The Lincoln Project?
NotMax
Okay, raised a laugh from me. Headline in an online newspaper seen in a muddled but marginally amusing British show* running on Prime at the moment:
“Jewish Father Almost Pays Compliment To Son – EXCLUSIVE!”
*The Jewish Enquirer
Barbara
@JPL: If past is prologue, his various executive orders on pharmaceutical pricing suggest that his health plan will be some kind of retread of whatever regulatory steps agencies have already been doing but haven’t quite managed to finish. No idea what that would be here.
O. Felix Culpa
@Emma from FL: I’m reviving my German. There’s a great free online program from the Volkshochschule. It’s geared towards immigrants, which gives me an idea….
Ken
BTW why was Trump flying into Florida? I doubt it was to organize the preparations for Isaias, but if so my sincere condolences to everyone in Florida.
It does make hash of the stated reason for cancelling the New Hampshire campaign event, a chance of rain.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@PsiFighter37: Thankfully, there’s one top VP contender who has been vetted by being a potential front runner in the 2020 Dem Pres primary for over a year, enduring the gauntlet of trolls, haters, bots, and bros – and the only thing that stuck was “she’s a cop”.
No surprises with Kamala at this point, I’d wager. Does that make her the “safe”/“do no harm” choice for VP?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
AKA “I love really hot tomatillo salsa, but it doesn’t love me.”
zhena gogolia
@Mike in NC:
J.-L. Cauvin has nailed this aspect of his speech. I recommend him to everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paSu3aHUeYI
WereBear
Which only proves my point. Our corporate media supports attacks on Democrats from any source.
And ignores anything to the contrary. If it weren’t for social media there wouldn’t be any coverage of the current protests, just as all those IMPEACH protests during W were not covered.
WereBear
@Another Scott:
Yes, a recent tweet of hers was selling further reading by praising Lincoln Project members rather abjectly. Turned me off: I liked her better when she was just stating facts, and supporting them.
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G:
Being a first-world, and wealthiest, country that doesn’t have universal healthcare because fuck everyone who’s not super rich?
Just Chuck
@John S.:
Ratfuckers gonna ratfuck, yes. But one imagines the Democratic party won’t hand them nearly as much ammunition.
Betty Cracker
@Frankensteinbeck: It’s almost like there’s some other difference between Sanders and Warren (aside from the fact that unlike Sanders, Warren has been a Democrat for decades, worked for a Democratic administration, does not define her politics in opposition to the Democratic Party, etc.) that could explain this. Maybe if we think on it real hard, it’ll come to us…
zhena gogolia
@OzarkHillbilly:
It must have gone bad. You have to keep the cans in the refrigerator, contrary to American practice.
Russian caviar is delicious.
WereBear
@Another Scott: Oh, I watch the ads and they sure know how to put the knife in. But these are the same people who used a racist campaign against McCain, and I don’t forget that.
VoteVets is doing another great job, but I don’t see nearly the coverage and discussion about it. Why aren’t their excellent ads also getting notice?
Why is Lincoln Project sucking up all the bandwidth? That’s a “tell” that they just want us all to forget the collapse of New Coke.
Ken
@zhena gogolia: Oooh, now Trump is going to ban YouTube.
WereBear
@OzarkHillbilly: They still are. They haven’t “seen the light.” Maybe that guy with the book coming out, where he admits “it was all a scam.”
And he’s retired. And still making money from the same old grift.
zhena gogolia
@WereBear:
The LP people are the ones doing the hyping. They’re very good at getting their message out there. Step one is making the video, step two is getting it disseminated, and that is where they are tops.
I am not going to carp about them as long as the battle still rages.
WereBear
@Another Scott: The latest episode of The Professional Left podcast has a funny story about that.
Apparently, there’s a local diner what was a wingnut gathering spot, highly popular with the FNYT reporters who wanted to check the pulse of the heartland. The owner went racist rant on Facebook, and didn’t take it down soon enough.
BLM protestors showed up to cover the sidewalks nearby with their message. Guy’s daughter, who worked there for like 30 years, openly quit, saying “I’m not cleaning up your messes any more.”
He’s gone out of business.
mrmoshpotato
@Ken:
It’s the luxurious, classy and tremendous bigly healthcare at a fraction of the cost that the Soviet shitpile mobster conman has been working on for *checks notes* two weeks!
A Ghost to Most
“Y’all better buckle up. This sh…stuff is real.”
– Michael Steele, discussing the election result “What If” planning he participated in. All scenarios led to street violence, with Ds wringing their hands and saying “But the law!”, and Rs doubling down.
WereBear
@mrmoshpotato: That is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
As is Iranian caviar.
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Tortilla! Salsa! Carne Asada! Queso!
Another Scott
@WereBear: Good points, but VoteVets seems to be a smaller operation. They don’t churn out videos daily. Their list of supported candidates is out of date – https://www.votevets.org/candidates Gabbard??! And they still have Plame up.
If you see something, post a link. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
JPL
@Barbara: We’ll get nothing!
m.j.
@raven:
The message is appealing. It’s a siren’s song.
I haven’t lost sight of who is sending it.
Watch your back.
WereBear
@Another Scott: Crikey, Gabbard?
Thanks for the info.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@zhena gogolia:
Holy shit – dude could make a mint prank calling business people and politicians, recording the calls and broadcasting them.
Amir Khalid
@WereBear:
In addition to VoteVets, I have also come across Republican Voters Against Trump on my YouTube rec page. They do 2-minute clips where a disgruntled/remorseful R voter talks to camera about their unhappiness with the president and the party.
WereBear
Amid pressure from younger family/friends I have been wading in the video arena.
As a lifelong bookworm, I’m like the “people who love printed books” when it comes to video. Yes, you can find almost any subject being illustrated on Youtube, and sometimes that’s great. If you need something demonstrated.
If you are looking to skim the info to find the nugget you need, fuhgeddaboudit. This is the source of my greatest exasperation, and why I’m still a fan of the good old transcript :)
But as someone who bailed on corporate media during the W administration, it’s a whole new world. With a lot of differences that leap out at me now.
mrmoshpotato
@Emma from FL:
?
Bonjour pardner!
NotMax
@WereBear
A moment of pity for the two delegates who will have to sheepishly mumble her name when called upon during the online convention.
;)
SFAW
@Ken:
Well, he sort-of has. It’s just not what rational beings would associate with the term “health care.” To be less abstruse: aiding-and-abetting the murder of persons in Blue states*, or states with Dem governors, is a form of “health care.” Just not a form which leads to better health. But you libtards are always splitting hairs.
Not unlike your simple-minded objections re: whether he is “protecting the Constitution”: is he actively trying to set fire to the actual document! NO, HE ISN’T. [So far.] Q, E, and checkmate, libtards!
* which is why I have often referred to him as the Murderer-in-Chief, of course.
scribbler
I think Sarah Cooper gets a bad rap when people say she’s just lip syncing. Granted, not all of her videos are home runs (who bats a thousand?) but when she’s on her game, her videos offer a smart, sharp, sometimes broad but other times amazingly subtle critique of Trump. And considering that she’s making these videos during a pandemic (so she’s limited to the props and locations she can find in her home, and plays all the supporting characters herself) I think she does an amazing job.
SFAW
@m.j.:
I don’t recall anyone here saying “boy, that Rick Wilson is MY kind of Democrat, let’s give him some official position in a [hoped-for] Biden Administration” and so forth.
In other words: can we just win the fucking election first, instead of deciding we’re too pure to receive help from Never-Trumpers?
ETA: Does “m.j.” stand for “Mote Juste”?
WereBear
@NotMax: They deserve it, though.
artem1s
the LP is made up of Reaganites who are sick of the TeaParty loonies running the show. As soon as Trump is gone, they will return to their Supply-side Voodoo Economics and claiming only they know what America should look like. Every social problem will be up to the states to solve – not the business of the Federal government. Their current alliance with god botherers and wingnuts has served them very well. They have plenty of judges who will rule exactly as they are told. Time to ditch the Trumpistas and return to the status quo of old dead white men running everything.
Personally I think they let it go one idiot president too long. I don’t believe they can save the party of “no true Scotsman’. But they will try. For once I think the Dems may have finally gotten thru to a lot of folks that midterms and Congressional races mean as much or more than who is sitting in the oval office. And who the next Prez hires is at least as important as their platforms. In all honesty I wouldn’t care which party anyone ID’s themselves with. If someone prefers to keep their options open by calling themselves an independent or Teabagger, it shouldn’t really matter as long as they aren’t creating chaos just for the sake of chaos. But the reality is, if you don’t choose to align yourself with the only party that is interested in protecting the rights of everyone, then it’s a dead giveaway that you are only on the side of the ‘fuck you, I got mine’ party. The LP may believe they can return to Raygunism once this is all over but I don’t think they are fooling anyone into believing they are returning to the party of Lincoln.
mrmoshpotato
@Mike in NC:
Someone who’s been too chummy with the Russkis for 30+ years?
WaterGirl
@Ken: I haven’t read all the comments yet so I will probably regret saying this, but…
Lawfare talked about this on their blog a week or two ago and my takeaway was that this could happen if Apple and Google wouldn’t make the app available on their platforms. But otherwise, there’s no mechanism to do this.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
Where’s Barbara Billingsley when we need her?
“I can speak stable genius.”
//
mrmoshpotato
@WereBear: Yup. And thanks for the reminder that I need to give this week’s episode my customary second listening.
mrmoshpotato
@scribbler:
A one-swing batter who made contact?
m.j.
@SFAW:
You don’t understand.
All I’m saying is Republicans aren’t to be trusted. That’s it. Nothing more.
If they are helpful in the moment I have no problem with that.
Moments pass.
RobNYNY
@Ken: If you don’t have mother of pearl spoons for serving the caviar, plastic is actually better than sterling silver, which imparts and “off” taste. I had to endure that once. Ah, what a bitter memory.
debbie
@m.j.:
So don’t trust them. But don’t diminish their anti-Trump campaign.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
Forbes article “ If Microsoft Pays $5B For TikTok America, Buy The Stock.”
TikTok is worth big bucks, and I don’t see them getting shut down in the US, as long as they sever ties with the Chinese govt. No matter what Trump sez.
SFAW
@m.j.:
Unfortunately for you, I understand perfectly. Most, if not all, of us here understand who they are. In fact, I think we discussed this some time ago. But we don’t spend a lot of time on it, because reaffirming it is a waste of time/space.
But thanks ever-so-much for explaining it all to us.
ETA: “Most, if not all” because I don’t think we’ve ever made each of the commenters here sign an oath saying that we know who/what the Lincoln Project is/are, in order to be allowed to comment here. So I guess there’s always the possibility that someone doesn’t.
Geminid
@WereBear: Rachel Bitecofer hit a career crossroads in May, when Christopher Newport University denied her a tenure track position in their Political Science department. She said it was a disappointment, but the decision did free her up to do what she does very well: correlating demographics with voting patterns, and positing effective messaging to bring voters to the polls. Applied political science. The people running the Lincoln Project know talent when they see it, and their association with her speaks to their good sense. Overall, Bitecofer tends to discount “conversion strategies”- flipping Republicans- in favor of mobilizing the “registered but don’t vote” pool of potential voters. She says that there were two million registered women voters in Texas who did not vote in 2016. But I think she feels the LP people are good at what they are doing right now, and she does not care about what they did in 2008 or what they will do in 2021. Bitecofer writes some perceptive analytical articles for the Niskanen Foundation, and has a good, informative twitter feed. With pictures of her dog, of course.
WaterGirl
@John S.: @m.j.:
I have to agree with m.j. on the choice of the black man with the mask under his nose. They couldn’t have modeled a poor downtrodden black man if they tried, which I believe they did.
Not the we shouldn’t welcome their ads, but they are surely taking donation money away from real democrats and voting-related organizations.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: But can you remember person woman man camera TV in the right order, in spanish?
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato:
I take your point on healthcare, but we did have ideas that mattered – democracy, respect for human rights (with an * for sure) free and fair elections, peaceful transition of power, etc.
So what Col. Vindman said is true.
WaterGirl
@Amir Khalid: Eleven Films did an outstanding job with this one.
It’s Midnight in Washington
WaterGirl
@SFAW: I, for one, appreciated the catch on the black worker who was cleaning something and had his mask below his nose.
There’s no way that was an accident, and I think it’s important to note that even as they appear to be on our side, they are doing small things to undermine things we believe in.
MomSense
@WereBear:
Ooh, I tried to listen last night but I was dead tired. I think I might pour a beer, take out my knitting, and sit on the porch to listen.
UncleEbeneezer
That Kilgore Trout twitter thread highlights an American truth:
DIVISIVE- pointing out racism or any other oppression.
NOT DIVISIVE- Literally dividing people through discrimination, redlining, built-that-wall, Babies in cages, trans military ban etc.
Ladyraxterinok
@mrmoshpotato:
Parlez-vous francais, y’all? (College, in TX in late 50s)
J R in WV
@Ladyraxterinok:
Ya’ll crack me up sometimes!!!
;-)
Thanks!!
Bill Arnold
@Sloane Ranger:
Also, it gets the biology vocabulary wrong.
Though “Diet: Human Souls” for the win.
Miss Bianca
@zhena gogolia: I’m with you on this one. Good to see these guys hitting an appropriate target, with the truth this time, instead of a bunch of lies.
Miss Bianca
@A Ghost to Most: I’m sorry, Michael fucking Steele says what now? Back down from the mountain with your “Dems are just a bunch of pussies” hot takes again, you rough tough he-man, you? Oh, what have we DONE to deserve your brand of rough-hewn wisdom, Grisly Addams??
Yutsano
@Miss Bianca: Wait…what kind of planning would he be involved with anyway? He’s a washed up ex head of the NRC who hasn’t had any influence in Republican circles since he couldn’t defeat the fellow black man at politics. What the hell would he know about what Republicans are planning or how Democrats would react anyway? Someone is trying to make some noise because he’s feeling neglected. Or he somehow sees he has a role in the aftermath of the Republican party implosion. Protip Michael: you were a token. The Republicans will never have a use for you in the future.
joel hanes
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
joel hanes
@OzarkHillbilly:
That’s the second-most important phrase.
First is “Una mas cerveza, por favor.”
joel hanes
@Ken:
English As She Is Spoke
joel hanes
@Ken:
That’s why I always take along my emergency mother-of-pearl caviar spoon (in its own carved-ivory travel case).
joel hanes
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Muchos thankos!
I’ve started playing with German again, after over forty years.
eddie blake
@Baud:
nice! baud/ ke$ha 2020!
Another Scott
@Yutsano: Steele was the first Black elected to statewide office in Maryland – Lt. Gov 2003-2007. He does know a little about politics including in nominally blue states.
I’m often mystified by him. He’s not stupid, but he seemed more than happy to ignore and minimize what the GOP became under W, and T. Occasionally he sticks his head up and says something ‘moderate’, then he disappears again. I guess he figures the winning strategy is to just keep his head down most of the time, and then hoping to help rule the smoking rubble of the GOP when the Teabaggers and Trumpists are done.
Dunno.
Cheers,
Scott.