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Tuesday Morning Open Thread: (Still) Proud to Be A Democrat

by Anne Laurie|  August 11, 20206:59 am| 91 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Vote Like Your Country Depends On It

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The #PostalService delivered 1.2 billion prescriptions in 2019! Because of the USPS, 70-year-old Army veteran Jack Bainbridge doesn't have to make a 90-mile round trip to the VA Medical Center to get his prescriptions. He simply walks to his mailbox. https://t.co/tXbqlCZZAt pic.twitter.com/gyHUswOj78

— Letter Carriers (@NALC_National) August 10, 2020

Of course, I’m lucky enough to have two fantastic senators!

There is nothing normal about a Trump campaign megadonor with at least $30 million invested in @USPS competitors being appointed as Postmaster General to sabotage our mail delivery & threaten our elections. The @OIGUSPS must investigate this corruption now.https://t.co/iQEx4Nym5W

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) August 10, 2020


Every single eligible American should have the opportunity to vote-by-mail this November. If it's good enough for Donald Trump — then it's good enough for you and me.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) August 9, 2020

We need to put one of these on every corner, right next to the taco truck: pic.twitter.com/Z7gG3S3s4d

— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) August 10, 2020

Meanwhile, my other senator, on the concurrent crisis:

Give every person in our country $2000/month for the duration of the pandemic, $2000/month for 3 months after that, and $2000/month retroactive to March.

— Ed Markey (@EdMarkey) August 10, 2020

Maybe if the government gave people $2,000 a month until the pandemic eases it would incentivize the GOP to actually go to work controlling the pandemic.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) August 11, 2020

Schumer says Democrats ready for coronavirus aid talks, if Republicans move https://t.co/W1OYV2C7Rp pic.twitter.com/fZtabVee8K

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 11, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Ken

    August 11, 2020 at 7:09 am

    The Senate had planned to not be in session, starting yesterday (August 10). Did they adjourn? If not, I take that as meaning they realize they have to do something other than going home to confront the angry pitchfork-wielding mobs meet their constituents.

    Whether that something will be useful, or even sane, is as always a coin-flip.

  2. 2.

    pablo

    August 11, 2020 at 7:11 am

    For years I get an insurance payout check on the 29th of the month like clockwork. It’s 12 days late. Thanks Donald.

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 7:14 am

    Ol’ Abe said, “But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground.” and he was right about that. Unfortunately, desecrating it is still within the grasp of some people.

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    Gin & Tonic

    August 11, 2020 at 7:15 am

    Meanwhile, in Belarus, the apparent President-for-Life, Aleksandr Lukashenka, having stolen Sunday’s election while largely shutting down Internet access in the country, has “negotiated” the opposition candidate’s flight from the country to Lithuania. Svitlana Tykhanovskaya, said candidate, recorded this inspiring video before leaving, calling on her compatriots to maintain peace and order. You don’t have to understand Belarusian to get the flavor of the video, accurately characterized by the Tweeter.

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    Patricia Kayden

    August 11, 2020 at 7:17 am

    Once again, Puerto Rico is a cautionary tale for those of us on the mainland. Safeguard the electoral process. It has been 1055 days since Puerto Rico had full power.— Denise Oliver-Velez ? (@Deoliver47) August 11, 2020

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    debbie

    August 11, 2020 at 7:22 am

    The OIGUSPS Twitter account shows the Inspector General’s paying zero attention to this, despite the comments requesting that they do.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    August 11, 2020 at 7:23 am

    Good Morning, How Everyone ???

  8. 8.

    debbie

    August 11, 2020 at 7:23 am

    @rikyrah:

    Are you able to go to work today?

  9. 9.

    debbie

    August 11, 2020 at 7:24 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    This is a surprise. She was interviewed yesterday on NPR and showed no signs of thinking about leaving.

  10. 10.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 7:24 am

    Gross, failed state-levels of corruption:

    U.S. Labor Department leadership is moving to reassign its top West Coast litigator, Janet Herold, who spearheaded a series of employment discrimination lawsuits against Silicon Valley tech giants, including a pending case against Oracle Corp., Bloomberg Law has learned.
    Herold, an Obama-era career appointee who serves as the department’s Regional Solicitor for San Francisco and head of branch offices in Los Angeles and Seattle, was told in a meeting late last month that Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia is transferring her from the Office of the Solicitor to DOL’s occupational safety agency where she will head the Chicago office, three sources briefed on the matter said. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity.
    Earlier this year, Herold wrote a memo to DOL leadership to complain that Scalia, in her view, was intervening in DOL’s high-profile pay-bias lawsuit against Oracle by attempting to reach a low-ball settlement, the sources said.
    The transfer has yet to be finalized. Herold, who has hired civil rights lawyer Debra Katz, plans to file a complaint with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel alleging retaliation against a whistleblower if the department follows its verbal order with a formal notice of involuntary reassignment, the sources said.
    Herold has gained a reputation since her appointment in 2012 as an aggressive fighter for worker justice who’s willing to take cases to trial that other DOL litigators would’ve been more likely to settle.
    The department’s case against Oracle, filed in the final days of the Obama administration, alleges the technology giant underpaid female and minority employees and owes them $400 million. Herold’s role in overseeing the long-running litigation, which awaits an initial ruling that could come any day now, put her in the crosshairs of two of President Donald Trump‘s corporate allies—Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison, a billionaire who has raised money for the president, and Oracle CEO Safra Catz, who was on Trump’s transition team.
    As the Oracle case has dragged on during the Trump administration, Herold’s litigation tactics—relying on statistical audits of company payroll data—spurred a prolonged campaign of right-leaning op-eds, notably from The Wall Street Journal editorial board, calling on Scalia to drop the lawsuit.

  11. 11.

    Patricia Kayden

    August 11, 2020 at 7:31 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    In Belarus, Lukashenko, “Europe’s last dictator”, has ruled for 26 years. Protestors are being violently put down by police. 1,000s locked out of voting. His challenger, Tsikhanouskaya is in hiding. Her CM arrested on election eve & 8 other campaign staff. https://t.co/X355TzWtgC— Jess O'Connell (@JessOConnell) August 10, 2020

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    WereBear

    August 11, 2020 at 7:33 am

    People have got to stop cooperating in their own doom.

    I just finished reading an article about Georgia teachers having to teach in unsafe conditions and one principal joking about it being “God’s cleansing plan.” Cramming children into small classrooms with no masks or distancing.

    Stop enabling. Stop cooperating. I did risk my job pushing my bosses to take this seriously, and now COVID means that job won’t come back. But the life I saved might have been me and mine.

    I understand the teachers not wanting to quit their jobs but complete societal collapse is worse. It really is.

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    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 7:34 am

    The @OIGUSPS must investigate this corruption now.

    I backed Warren in the primary because she’s the only one who gets that all of this is corruption. It’s all the flavors of corruption, but it’s all the same at the base.
    Root and branch. Dig it out or it will strangle everything.

    Postal workers in distribution centers say the Trump hires are moving equipment out of processing centers. I would think Propublica or another journalism outfit could stake it out and show us that. These are not small things they’re moving. You would need semis.

  14. 14.

    Anne Laurie

    August 11, 2020 at 7:35 am

    @Ken: According to the official website, the Senate is in session this week.  So — assuming Mnuchin can lock Meadows in a toilet somewhere, and actually negotiate with Pelosi and Schumer — they should, theoretically, be available at short notice to approve some version of the HEROES Act.

    Since they’re only in DC to avoid unpleasant meeting with their supposed constituents… I mean, be available to vote on a negotiated package… presumably at least a portion of the GOP bench would prefer to git ‘er done and get the heck outa Foggy Bottom.

  15. 15.

    Ruckus

    August 11, 2020 at 7:36 am

    Jack Bainbridge isn’t the only vet who gets his meds by mail. And has a 90 mile round trip to the clinic. OK 88 miles. I can take a bus, a train, train transfer, train transfer, bus ride and then reverse but do I really want to take that 1 1/2 hr ride, wait for 45 min to an hr to get prescriptions filled and the journey back, or drive for 45 min to 2 hr, wait, drive for 45 min to 2 hr? I think that the mail is a better option. I do however now have to order even earlier and still risk running out. Fun times.

    BTW, damn it, I also can’t sleep.

  16. 16.

    CCL

    August 11, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @Kay:
    Sounds like they are racing the clock to dismantle the postal system before the election.

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    PenAndKey

    August 11, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @Kay: I backed Warren in the primary because she’s the only one who gets that all of this is corruption. It’s all the flavors of corruption, but it’s all the same at the base.
    Root and branch. Dig it out or it will strangle everything.

    I’ve been playing Doom Eternal lately on my PC as a cathartic release in what little “me time” I have these days with a newborn, puppy, and still working 11hr a day. The phrase, “Rip and tear until it is done” certainly has an appeal right now, and not just when killing demons

    @CCL: And yeah, they really do seem to be going for broke on the USPS dismantling. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore, despite the fact that older conservatives used to love the phrase “defend the shores and deliver the mail” when explaining the only functions they consider legitimate. They’re not saying that much these days.

  18. 18.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 7:47 am

    @Ruckus:

    When I worked in small, rural post offices we had low enough volume where we could pull out the stuff people needed and asked for, knowing they would be aware when it usually arrived and either call or come in to pick it up rather than wait for delivery. At that time Social Security came in paper checks and the envelopes were a different color and had a bar along the top so we’d pull those out. The VA prescription drugs came in a sack from Detroit on the same days every month so we’d pull those out too and give them a kind of expedited delivery. The low income elderly waiting for the Social Security checks used to make me sad because they didn’t come up and ask. They’d just wait and if I had them I’d tell them and if I didn’t I’d tell them and they’d leave and try again the next day. We all knew the stuff was vital to them and they were anxious about getting it.

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    SFAW

    August 11, 2020 at 7:47 am

    AL –

    I think Markey’s been pretty good, but “fantastic” might be a stretch. Not sure why the latest Kennedy scion feels the need to primary him. [But I have a good idea. By the way, how does one spell “primogeniture”?]

    That said, the Schooley tweet is pretty good. Too bad the irony/joke would be lost on most/all of the senators from the Party of Traitors.

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    debbie

    August 11, 2020 at 7:51 am

    Someone is printing out absentee ballot applications and leaving them in the free little libraries around here. Of course, someone’s complaining that postage isn’t also being provided.  ??‍♀️

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    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 8:00 am

    @debbie: Someone is printing out absentee ballot applications

    I can’t help wondering if that is legal.

  22. 22.

    CCL

    August 11, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @PenAndKey:  Yes, just saw a tweet from Steve Inskeep (sp) reporting that a spokesperson for the postal union in Iowa said they are dismantling the sorting machines.

    Sorry, don’t know how to embed tweets.  Also, fat fingers on a phone.

  23. 23.

    Bruce K

    August 11, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @PenAndKey:

    The phrase, “Rip and tear until it is done” certainly has an appeal right now, and not just when killing demons

    Funny how the major plot line is basically Heaven and Hell colluding to savage Earth. “You are called upon to sacrifice for our prosperity”: sounds a lot like Trump, Mnuchin, and the 21st century GOP to me. Somebody pass the chainsaw?

  24. 24.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @CCL:

    I’m pleased it’s getting so much media attention. We noticed that mail was delayed in our office but we put it off on Covid, initially. Then everyone who came in started saying it. It’s (obviously) a huge problem for the court system because the whole “notice” process relies on timely delivery of mail.

    They’re getting noticed to appear a day prior to when they have to be there.

    I think it’s completely in keeping with the coddled cluelessness of the Trump Family and the people the Trump Family hire that none of them considered that people use and rely on mail. They’re stupid, soft pampered babies who have never functioned in the actual world. They disgust me.

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    Ken

    August 11, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I don’t see why printing the application wouldn’t be legal. In my state it’s just a PDF you download.  An absentee ballot might be an issue, the state likes to know who has those.

  26. 26.

    Patricia Kayden

    August 11, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @WereBear: I don’t understand why parents are allowing their children to be used this way.  My children wouldn’t be sitting in a crammed classroom with no masks.  Period.

  27. 27.

    Jeffro

    August 11, 2020 at 8:21 am

    Well look at Mary Trump, coming in with a little inside baseball LOL like that!  =)

  28. 28.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @Ken: OK, I was just thinking along the lines of “most things voting related are pretty tightly regulated”. I’m sure the GOP will now get on the ball and fix this oversight quickly to ensure it is no longer legal.

  29. 29.

    Ruckus

    August 11, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @Kay:

    My grandmother was a postmaster in rural CA, in the wayback machine. She was born 130 yrs ago, this was before WWII. She would be pissed off at shitforbrains. Massively pissed off. So about normal for a lot of us. He and his shit friends really are trying to destroy everything about the United States. People less against the US have been executed for treason. I’d say there is no way they don’t have some concept that they are actually trying to destroy the country but they are republicans so what they know is always suspect.

  30. 30.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 8:24 am

    @Patricia Kayden: Some parents are stupid, some are ignorant and some just plain and some simply don’t have much choice.

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    Gin & Tonic

    August 11, 2020 at 8:30 am

    Joe Biden issues a statement about the election in Belarus.

    Democracies are built on the simple concept that citizens have a right to elect their leaders and have a say in their country’s future. After suffering systematic repression for the past 26 years under the authoritarian regime of President Alexander Lukashenka, the people of Belarus are demanding their voices be heard.

    Should I hold my breath waiting for a US government statement?

  32. 32.

    Lapassionara

    August 11, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @Ken: my absentee ballot has a bar code on it that is specific to me. Every mailing I get from the county board of elections has that same bar code. I don’t see how anyone could just come up with an official absentee ballot in St Louis county. I suppose someone could try photocopying an absentee ballot, but once one of them was put through a scanner, all others would be rejected.

  33. 33.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @Ruckus:

    I had a wonderful postmaster. She was a great manager. I model everything I do in my business now with how she did it. Ruth. I just loved her. I was pregnant and working and she quietly installed an air quality monitor in the sorting room because she was worried about my baby. Just SUCH a conscientious person. She should have been running a giant company :)
    She’s retired but I see her every once in a while. She bought a storage unit business so now she runs that. She’s gotta be close to 80.

  34. 34.

    Ruckus

    August 11, 2020 at 8:33 am

    @Kay:

    I think they know what the mail is and means to most people. It’s actually worse because what I see is that they think it’s OK to destroy millions of lives for them to possibly retain power. This kind of shit is what happens in dictatorships, the kind of shit that is written about third world shitholes with petty small minded fucksticks in power. This is who and what the remaining republicans are. No better than a shithole dictator. Like say, the lovely Belarus “president,” elected with what 20% of the people voting for him.

  35. 35.

    Ken

    August 11, 2020 at 8:36 am

    @Lapassionara: The vote-by-mail applications that Illinois sent out are also preprinted with your name and address and a barcode, and I expect the ballot will be the same.

    I’m not entirely thrilled with the vote-by-mail application, it’s a return postcard so my signature, phone number, and date of birth will be visible in-transit.

  36. 36.

    Ruckus

    August 11, 2020 at 8:37 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Should I hold my breath waiting for a US government statement?

    I’d say no, because of course you will die of oxygen deprivation long before any thing other than pure unadulterated bullshit comes out of this white house.

  37. 37.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 8:38 am

    @Kay: Sounds like my postmaster.

  38. 38.

    CCL

    August 11, 2020 at 8:43 am

    @Kay:

    Yes. Perhaps folks should thinking about guarding postal processing/offices – similar to the rush to airports right after T’s first immigrant ban.

  39. 39.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 11, 2020 at 8:43 am

    OT: I blogged about how book covers are designed. Yesterday, FelonyGovernment told me she tried to comment and got a “page not found” message. I think I fixed that, but if someone finds the same thing, I’d appreciate your letting me know.

    Also I woke up to a short story rejection. I hate being rejected. You’d think the editors would take that into account. I mean, what about MY needs???

  40. 40.

    Lapassionara

    August 11, 2020 at 8:44 am

    @Ken: Ewww. That does not sound good. Could you return it in an envelope?

  41. 41.

    Baud

    August 11, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  42. 42.

    Betty Cracker

    August 11, 2020 at 8:50 am

    @Kay: What a terrific mentor! Glad you still get to see her.

    I run a small business (just me — really small!), and I model many of my work habits after those of a former boss who mentored me when I was a know-nothing fresh out of college. I learned so much from her without even realizing it!

  43. 43.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 11, 2020 at 8:54 am

    Democratic National Convention tentative lineup includes:MONDAY: Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders TUESDAY: Jill Biden, Bill Clinton, AOC WEDNESDAY: Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Barack Obama THURSDAY: Joe Biden, Tammy Duckworth, Kamala Harris@MSNBC— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 11, 2020

  44. 44.

    Baud

    August 11, 2020 at 8:55 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Looking forward to it.

  45. 45.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 11, 2020 at 8:56 am

    @Baud: What do you make of Biden appearing Thursday with Duckworth and Harris?

  46. 46.

    H.E.Wolf

    August 11, 2020 at 8:57 am

    Absentee (and vote-by-mail) ballot applications are different from the ballot itself.  Similarly, voter-registration applications are not the same as a registered voter. They are steps to achieving it.

    Providing stamps to mail these forms is considered, in our state and perhaps in others, as equivalent to “offering a gift in exchange for a vote” (per the state website), and is prohibited.

    One of the reasons our entire state eventually made the transition to postage-paid ballots was to remove “I don’t have a postage stamp” (which disproportionately affected low-income people and young people) as an obstacle to voting.

    ETA: It’s also one of the reasons that online voter registration was made available. No stamps!

  47. 47.

    O. Felix Culpa

    August 11, 2020 at 8:58 am

    @Kay: It is happening. One of our Congresswomen, Deb Haaland, has called out the USPS to explain why they moved two sorting machines out of the Albuquerque processing center. We had problems with delayed ballot deliveries in the primary; it’s going to be MUCH worse in the fall.

    We (the local Democratic Party) have been gearing up to encourage absentee voting by mail. I wonder if we should shift to early in-person voting instead. There are rarely lines, so it would be quick in and out.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    August 11, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Two vice presidents.

  49. 49.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    She really was great. I would hand her a “piece” (an envelope) with a missing/bad address and she would do this “THAT word looks like “Parker” and Mary Smith WAS a Parker so get it to her and she’ll sort it out”.

    Ruth The Sleuth. She will GET you that fucking birthday card, because it’s first class. She must be appalled.

  50. 50.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 11, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Two VPs! ?

    It’s going to be a good week.

  51. 51.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 11, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @Baud: Aimed at Utah voters?

  52. 52.

    Baud

    August 11, 2020 at 9:04 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Haha. That’s cold.

  53. 53.

    gkoutnik

    August 11, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @Baud:  Consolation prize?

  54. 54.

    Baud

    August 11, 2020 at 9:06 am

    My feed says that this this is the propaganda that right wing media is peddling.

    Republicans Furious As Democrats Leave Town With No Deal (Henry Rodgers/The Daily Caller)

  55. 55.

    Baud

    August 11, 2020 at 9:07 am

    @gkoutnik:

    It’s going to be a while Miss America and style announcement.  Very appalling.

  56. 56.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 11, 2020 at 9:11 am

    If you think you’ve made bad life choices, there is a woman who married Ben Shapiro.— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) August 11, 2020

  57. 57.

    TS (the original)

    August 11, 2020 at 9:12 am

    @Baud:

    Two vice presidents.

    Exactly my thoughts – if trump can change the rules, so can Biden.

  58. 58.

    evodevo

    August 11, 2020 at 9:12 am

    @Kay: Yeah…that’s the role I play at our little PO – I’m the only one left who knows all the relationships/former tenants/etc. to sort out the misaddressed mail.  We lost a LOT of institutional memory right after the layoffs/retirements from the Bush Crash, and now people like me have quit due to age/giant workload fatigue, and are disappearing fast.  Soon there won’t be anyone but young whippersnappers who know nothing lol

  59. 59.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 9:15 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I know what to make of it.

    ETA: I could make a hat, or a brooch, or a bird, or…

  60. 60.

    Immanentize

    August 11, 2020 at 9:19 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Whitmer will be VP?

    ETA responding to, “I know what to make of it.”

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    August 11, 2020 at 9:23 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: 

    I could make a hat, or a brooch, or a bird, or…

    Looks like you picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

  62. 62.

    Betty Cracker

    August 11, 2020 at 9:26 am

    With the mess we’re in as a country, an incoming administration might need two VPs. (They can flip a coin if one has to take over.)

    I hope whomever Biden picks is really good at messaging — framing problems and outlining solutions in the context of a larger vision. Party leaders like Pelosi and Schumer aren’t great at it, and neither is Biden.

    Or maybe that’s not important anyway, if the election is a referendum on Trump. Seems to me we need to also articulate a vision of what we’ll do besides ousting Trump given the accelerating collapse of America domestically and abroad. But I’m terrible at guessing what’s important to other voters.

  63. 63.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 9:26 am

    @Immanentize: I’m a little slow this AM. Took me a couple beats to come up with the proper response. I blame spending all day yesterday with my granddaughters… With no adult supervision.

  64. 64.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 11, 2020 at 9:28 am

    @SFAW: I don’t have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down. No problem.

  65. 65.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 9:33 am

    @evodevo:

    I sometimes get mail addressed to people down the street who have the same last name as one of my sons middle name. I completely get that- the connections the carrier is making. I know they’re trained to drop their eyes and not use names and instead use addresses, but it’s very human to have the name override the address.

  66. 66.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 9:51 am

    Several Democrats accused the Trump administration of trying to sabotage the country’s mail system after a broad restructuring of the United States Postal Service that some have characterized as a “Friday Night Massacre.” Postmaster General Louis DeJoy moved forward with a significant reorganization of the Postal Service leadership along with a hiring freeze for leadership positions. The reorganization involves the reassignment or displacement of 23 USPS executives, including some who had been at the Postal Service for decades. Among the targets of the reorganization were the two top executives who oversee daily operations at the Postal Service.

    Every single one of the Trump hires suck at their jobs. You don’t even have to do a “malice” analysis. They’re all incompetents who failed at everything and continued to get promoted. Even if they weren’t venal crooks they couldn’t run anything.
    LOW quality hires. The Trump Family sure can pick ’em. Nothing WORKS in this administration. It’s all poor quality- junk and garbage.

  67. 67.

    Kay

    August 11, 2020 at 9:56 am

    Louis DeJoy, a North Carolina businessman who has given millions of dollars to the Republican Party, including the Trump campaign, has been named the nation’s new postmaster general.

    He paid the Trump Family for the patronage position. Every single person under him who competed for a civil service position encountered more competition than he did.
    Another dumbass crook the Trump’s foisted on us.
    How long did it take him to destroy the postal service? Three months? An overachiever!

  68. 68.

    Ken

    August 11, 2020 at 10:00 am

    @Baud: What, the Trump executive order / memoranda didn’t solve all the nation’s problems?

  69. 69.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    August 11, 2020 at 10:02 am

    @Baud: Oh dear, does that mean to pass the bill almost all the Republicans will have to vote yes? LOL

  70. 70.

    JPL

    August 11, 2020 at 10:10 am

    @Betty Cracker: I hope that he announces his choice soon.

  71. 71.

    PenAndKey

    August 11, 2020 at 10:12 am

    @Kay: I no longer believe it’s a matter of them just sucking at their jobs. No, you don’t get this sort of consistency in hiring leaders with a well known motive for destroying the department they now lead without it being intentional. Trump may just suck at hiring, but I’d bet good money he’s getting a list of candidates from someone who has gamed out exactly how much damage each candidate will cause.

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    August 11, 2020 at 10:18 am

    @Betty Cracker

    Seems to me we need to also articulate a vision of what we’ll do besides ousting Trump given the accelerating collapse of America domestically and abroad

    This. This. This.

    Encouraging voting against someone is not enough without providing also clear reasons to vote for an other someone.

  73. 73.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 11, 2020 at 10:20 am

    @PenAndKey:

    Trump may just suck at hiring, but I’d bet good money he’s getting a list of candidates from someone who has gamed out exactly how much damage each candidate will cause. 

    Totally.  The only person who could possibly not fall under that umbrella is Ben Carson.  Carson’s possibly just massively unqualified to be the HUD secretary, and not actively trying to destroy it.  Possibly.

  74. 74.

    Jeffro

    August 11, 2020 at 10:21 am

    @PenAndKey: I’m betting that person’s name rhymes with “Beve Stannon”

  75. 75.

    Just One More Canuck

    August 11, 2020 at 10:24 am

    @Kay:  I read the Bloomberg story – the criticism that Janet Herold is getting is that she uses the tools necessary to prove her case? Am I getting that right?

  76. 76.

    gwangung

    August 11, 2020 at 10:29 am

    @NotMax: I dunno. Seems to work for Republicans.

  77. 77.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 11, 2020 at 10:29 am

    So this is a suburban HOA president in a GOP voting corner of Louisville. Homes in Lake Forest are frequently priced in excess of 500K, and some are in the 6 figures.

    He’s harassing a woman for publicly demonstrating support for a black family in the neighborhood that suffered months of racist abuse from an across-the-street neighbor (the HOA kept saying there was nothing they could do). Eventually, the black family got enough video for the police to act.

    Anyway, on this video, good ol’ Catholic K of C guy Duncan Murley asks this ally  if she’s one of those people who is ashamed to be white.

    https://www.facebook.com/100000328465971/posts/3305382199482696/?d=n

  78. 78.

    James E Powell

    August 11, 2020 at 10:33 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Twitter tells me that some people are upset that right-wing Republican John Kasich has been invited to speak at the convention. I get why he was invited, but is he the only one from Ohio?

    And what is the convention going to be? A massive zoom meeting?

  79. 79.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    August 11, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @PenAndKey: My impression is anyone on the Right who is competent won’t even apply for a job at the Trump admin so the only candidates Trump gets are wack jobs to begin with. Not to mention Trump keeps on firing his own people so his staff iso even if one of the wack jobs gets a reality check, they are out of there before they can process the lesson.

  80. 80.

    NotMax

    August 11, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @gwangung

    1) We’re not trying to reach dyed in the wool Republicans. Peeling away hangers-on who need concrete reasons to let go, yes.

    2) Even the Rs pay lip service to reasons to vote for, albeit in nebulous, abstract terminology (“bring back jobs,” “lower taxes”).

  81. 81.

    evodevo

    August 11, 2020 at 10:53 am

    @Kay: If we carriers did that, the customers up here in rural Ky land would go nuts….they’d be calling the office everyday complaining about “GETTING SOMEONE ELSES MAIL $%^”, even though it’s THE CORRECT ADDRESS lol.  They’ll even return “current occupant” mail saying it’s been delivered by mistake.  I  have a T-shirt that I used to wear saying, “YOU are the current occupant! ”  I don’t remember any of them laughing…

  82. 82.

    evodevo

    August 11, 2020 at 10:55 am

    @Kay: Evidently Trumpy hires are dismantling and moving sorting equipment out of distribution centers all over the country – they are purposefully sabotaging the PO ….. and no one is stopping them….Congresswoman Deb Haaland (NM) has called out the USPS to explain why they moved two sorting machines out of the Albuquerque processing center.

    Outsiders don’t understand…the sorting machines sit mostly idle till about 6pm, whereupon the night shift starts them up and they run till way into the next morning. Mail is sorted at night in processing centers, then sent out to the branch offices the next AM for delivery. If you went into one of these huge centers in the middle of the afternoon, no one would be there except maintenance. PLUS in the old days BA (before amazon lol) there would be a couple three machines sitting idle, waiting for the crazy season, which runs from Sept. through Jan. If you take these down and carry them off, there is no backup for machine breakdowns or the Xmas season….it’s easy to sabotage the PO when you know how it works….

  83. 83.

    Ken

    August 11, 2020 at 10:55 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Carson’s possibly just massively unqualified to be the HUD secretary

    Wasn’t Carson the one who was originally offered a different cabinet position more in line with his background – possibly HHS – but declined because he knew he didn’t have the qualifications to run it?  Then they offered him HUD and he basically said “Sure, how hard can that be?”

    It was kind of a Dunning-Kruger edge case.

  84. 84.

    cmorenc

    August 11, 2020 at 11:02 am

    What are the chances on election day that Trump and Bill Barr actually try to block counting of mail-in-votes because of allegations of potential unreliability of the postal system and fraud?  And accompanies that with:

    1. an Executive order from Trump purporting to disallow counting of mail-in-votes, whether or not specifically targeted at states with allegedly  “unreliable” elections systems aka states with D governor/SoS/legislature?  Even if the D states tell Trump to piss off, this could still be a problem in states with GOP governors / SoS but whose electorate may have enough of a Biden lean (if mail-in-votes are counted) for Biden to carry – if said officials decide to follow that order, even though it’s constitutionally bogus.
    2. More ominously, Barr could on or immediately prior to the Nov 3 election, petition Trump-appointed US District Judges in various locations to halt the count of mail-in-ballots, perhaps even making perverse, dishonest use of various provisions of Federal Civil / Voting Rights legislation as the basis.  Even if any TROs issued got fairly promptly (by normal judicial time standards) overruled – this could still throw the election into chaos for a week or two, and help Trump create a cloud over the legitimacy of the election.
    3. Of course, if there’s ever a moment when the count temporarily favors Trump, that will be the moment they try to freeze the count, if possible.
  85. 85.

    wenchacha

    August 11, 2020 at 11:10 am

    @Kay: all of that Kay. Depraved Indifference. I made some ebay money, long time ago. You live and die by delivery dates! Anybody who somehow has managed to hold on by their fingernails is now likely to see more knocks against them, for tardy deliveries, or shipping costs, or both. There is absolutely no reason to throttle the postal system during a catastrophic pandemic, economic downturn rivaling the Great Depression, with less than three months to a Presidential election.

    I am screaming silently in my heart.

  86. 86.

    NotMax

    August 11, 2020 at 11:19 am

    @wenchacha

    Plus it makes zero sense to cut back or cancel overtime when a reported 40,000 postal service workers have been in quarantine (at one time or another, not all simultaneously).

  87. 87.

    sdhays

    August 11, 2020 at 11:24 am

    @Baud: Ha! Didn’t old Dick Cheney claim that the Constitushun (sic) secretly made the Vice Presidency the most powerful institution in the government because it was given no actual powers (so, of course, you just assume ALL of the powers, right?)? What will he make of 2 VP’s!!

  88. 88.

    J R in WV

    August 11, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    @Ken:

    I’m not entirely thrilled with the vote-by-mail application, it’s a return postcard so my signature, phone number, and date of birth will be visible in-transit.

     

    Lessee, now…. Maybe, I dunno, GET AN ENVELOPE and a stamp? Spend $0.85 all told for a more secure feeling?

    More seriously, who besides USPS staff and voting center staff will see that postcard once you drop it into a mailbox>??? Really?

  89. 89.

    J R in WV

    August 11, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    If you think you’ve made bad life choices, there is a woman who married Ben Shapiro.— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) August 11, 2020

    Worse, yet, there’s a little female fascist who married White House Chief Nazi, Stephen Miller~!!~

  90. 90.

    Ruckus

    August 11, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Saving the best for last….

    No one ahead on that list is going to be VP so I’m guessing one of those two.

    Tammy is a fighter, in the best way, and I think should go far in politics. Two years high up in the VA, she’s smart and well spoken and has given more to her country than most ever do and would likely be a great VP.

    Kamala Harris has political chops, I think is more experienced at running a large government organization, has taken more positive steps for the people affected by her job than any other AG in CA and probably any state, I think she’d make an excellent VP and president if Joe only serves one term.

    I like either one, I’d vote gladly, whole heartedly, enthusiastically for either one to serve with Joe.

  91. 91.

    Ruckus

    August 11, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You need adult supervision to be with them? That doesn’t sound right…..

    You didn’t mean you needed adult supervision did you…….

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