Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

“More of this”, i said to the dog.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Let there be snark.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Come on, man.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace.

Consistently wrong since 2002

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Not all heroes wear capes.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

Nothing worth doing is easy.

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I was a little in the dumps today and then I remembered this:

I can’t wait until Harris does this to Pence.

Also, my friend Holly and her husband returned from NYC today and brought me a dozen bagels made by Russian Jews and some smoke salmon and cream cheese and I used a tomato from the garden and some red onion and capers and I am the happiest I have been in months.

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  1. 1.

    Jinchi

    Remember That Time Elizabeth Warren Killed a Man on National TV

    I thought you were talking about Bloomberg, but I guess Delaney was her first.

  3. 3.

    geg6

    Ooooo, that sounds delish!  I haven’t had that since the last time I was in NYC.  The only place on earth to get a good bagel.  And don’t even try to argue with me about this, people.

  5. 5.

    geg6

    @Jinchi:

    Yeah, she’s definitely guilty of double murder and I love her for it!  Senator Harris murdered Kavanaugh and Barr on live tv, and I loved that, too.

  7. 7.

    Suzanne

    I love Senator Professor Warren. So very much. Thank you for the reminder.

    Kamala is going to bring a shiv to the debate. I will enjoy it.

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jinchi: Haha.  I remember Warren’s live evisceration of Bloomberg, but I’d totally forgotten about Delaney.  Seriously.

  9. 9.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    .

    Monmouth poll*:

    National
    Joe Biden 51%
    Donald Trump 41%

    Fully half (50%) of registered voters continue to say they are not at all likely to support Trump.
    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 11, 2020

    * Rated A+ by 538

    Poll was taken before Kamala-Mania started running wild in the streets

  11. 11.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    but I’d totally forgotten about Delaney. Seriously.

    that’s actually the Delaney family motto now

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    Good bagel recipe:

    Bagels with Pâte Fermentée

    I made a batch over the weekend, and it’s pretty straightforward and yields nice bagels with the right texture and everything. If you don’t happen to have malt powder, a bit of honey works well as a substitute.

  15. 15.

    debbie

    @Suzanne:

    Come to think of it, I did notice a bit of a quiver in Pence’s steely stare when he said he looked forward to meeting her at the debate in October.

  16. 16.

    Aleta

    @debbie:  One place I would stay in NYC was 1.5 – 2.5 blocks from H&H.  It was also across the street from the Cuban place.

  17. 17.

    Ken

    I’m wondering what the debates will look like. Zoom meetings, maybe? It could throw off anyone who’s used to a cheering section. Fortunately we’ve just seen both Biden and Harris can handle that.

  18. 18.

    scott (the other one)

    @debbie: I used to live a few blocks from Ess a Bagel. When they were still warm, you didn’t even need to chew – – they would just sort of turn liquid and slide down your throat. Absolutely ruined me forever for other bagels.

  21. 21.

    debbie

    @scott (the other one):

    Same here. When they asked what kind we wanted, we said whichever had most recently come out of the oven. Good god, they were so good, I was practically huffing the bag all the way home.

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    That’s 9% undecided or unwilling to state a preference, that could put them pretty much dead even.

    Because if you don’t know you’re for Biden at this point, then you are for Trump but don’t want to say so, or you have no problem with Trump so you think there is some difficult decision to make.  .

    So those numbers aren’t all that reassuring to me, especially when you factor in the cheating and the stealing and the corrupt Attorney General and a partisan supreme court.

  23. 23.

    Mike in NC

    We have two so-so bagel shops in the area. The oldest one was opened by New Yorkers several years ago but they sold the business. The bagels there are the consistency of hockey pucks and weight about the same. The other joint makes a much lighter bagel but they’re still inferior to the ones I used to buy in Brookline, MA when I worked in Cambridge. Those were outstanding. They also sell bagels at Publix which are from Einstein Brothers, which apparently are still a chain of bagel shops in DC and its suburbs.

  24. 24.

    rikyrah

    All the crazy racist shit you're hearing from Trump and Co is based on this: They cannot win a fair election.And they know it.1. That's why the destruction of the Post Office2. That's why the Kanye West bullshit.3. That's why the Van Jones/Jared Kushner secret deal . pic.twitter.com/v2gGY9VJs0— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) August 12, 2020

  25. 25.

    Aleta

    Today the friend who was chased by a bear on Sunday brought us some of her garden.  We  just ate the head of broccoli, cut this afternoon.  Seems I’ve never had it that fresh.  Eating it might have been like finding religion.

  27. 27.

    Kay

    We opened the local Democratic headquarters today. There’s a family-owned manufacturing company here – they are the second largest employer in town. The president of the company (he retired as CEO) donated 500 towards the rent. This guy backed Obama in ’08 and we haven’t heard from him since on politics, but he must be backing Biden too. Really pleased to see it. He wrote a letter to the editor on behalf of Obama immediately before the election that I think probably swung votes. His family is loved here. They’re good employers and really generous w/ community charity and projects. I was wondering if he’d weigh in on this one, because it’s not easy for him to “go public”- this is a very red county. Maybe he was waiting for Kamala :)

    It’s a good omen :)

  28. 28.

    prostratedragon

    @geg6:  There was a place in downtown Chicago about 30 years ago called Big Apple Bagels or something. They actually had a good sesame seed (I used to hike down to H&H weekly, back when they were good, so I know what you mean). But the punch line is that they went out of business. Apparently they were too good.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    @geg6

    Not arguing, merely an observation that these days in NYC and its environs one has to hunt for the good as opposed to settling for the mediocre.

    The bagels made at the local Costco on Maui aren’t a bad choice (albeit larger and chewier than classic NY bagels) although the quality seems to vary, the ones put out late in the day midweek noticeably better than those made earlier or on the weekends. Guessing it is related to the sheer volume demands of differing times and days.

  30. 30.

    JR

    @WaterGirl: Biden is running 6 points ahead of Clinton, and with far fewer undecided. There’s also a bunch of polls with leaners pushed and Biden’s lead basically holds in the same range.

  31. 31.

    prostratedragon

    @Aleta:
    Actually I think I know the place you mean. But, since I lived farther uptown for years, my first thought was, the Cuban place?

  32. 32.

    Captain C

    @debbie: This not the first time Trump has murdered football. He was largely responsible for the USFL’s crash and burn in the ‘80s.

  33. 33.

    e julius drivingstorm

    I could throw a rock from my front yard and hit three houses with Trump 2020 flags. To show how neutral I am I’ll balance my Biden/Harris 2020 sign with one that says Trump/Putin 2020.

  37. 37.

    cain

    Anyone know why AOC’s which seems to have a lot of promo – as a list of speakers and Dem convention – only gets 60 seconds? Is that true or is twitter blowing smoke?

  40. 40.

    prostratedragon

    @NotMax:  One block. It was the Saturday night shopping district for Sunday goodies, picking up the Sunday Times on the way back. (Not Aleta.)

  41. 41.

    PsiFighter37

    @cain: She is not making a speech, just ceremonially putting forward Wilmer’s name for the nomination. Silly and petulant IMO, but whatever.

    As for people making speeches, it is tough because you do not have all day and afternoon to have people going…so they are having to cram in all the people they want into prime-time hours. The schedule looks pretty packed from the looks of it already. I read that Michelle Obama is pre-recording her speech…not a bad idea, frankly, to cut down on technical issues.

  44. 44.

    jl

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    ” Kamala-Mania started running wild in the streets ”

    Running in the streets!? Is she running towards the suburbs? Look out Ozzie and Harriet!

    Better look that up, not sure I got it right. Was before my time. Yeah, that is right, Ozzie and Harriet Nelson. I didn’t know they were a real family. Ozzie was a band leader and Harriet a singer.

  45. 45.

    Ohio Mom

    NotMax: My New York family members have been grieving the loss of bagels as we knew them for I don’t know how long.

    They have litany: That place hasn’t been good since the 80s when the original owners sold it. That other place also is no good anymore. Oh, remember the place on ___ street, how I miss their old bagels. And so on.

    What is remarkable about this conversation is that unlike other old standby topics, it never devolves into an argument. Everyone is in complete agreement that tne next generation will never know from a real bagel.

  46. 46.

    PsiFighter37

    @NotMax: Neither. Also, the actual Ray’s was sued several years back and got everyone else to change their name. The one I used to frequent back when I was a kid (11th Street and 6th Avenue) closed shortly thereafter, and a Szechuan restaurant took up residence. I remember the pizza for its ungodly large slices, but in hindsight it was kind of mediocre. Nowadays, there is a thin-crust spot literally right next to where I live…not the best, but their meat lover’s pizza is phenomenal.

  47. 47.

    jl

    Looks like Trump made some sort of spectacle today in front of the whole country, at least anybody who watched. I guess it’s a good thing I was busy and I missed it.

    Where is this suburbs in danger schtick going? Is this the promised reset for the Trumpster campaign? If Trump finds some patently BS excuse to try to send his mystery meat paramilitary federal police to the suburbs, that won’t play well.

  48. 48.

    Ohio Mom

    Roger Moore: PsiFighter is right, New York’s pizza is better than anyplace else’s in this country. That unarguable.

    But you are right that New Yorkers can be amazingly parochial. But for good reason.

  50. 50.

    jl

    I barley remember some old  Ozzie and Harriet reruns from when I was a little kid. I don’t remember that Ozzie and Harriet ever did anything. They just had a house in the suburbs, Harriet was always nice and efficient and sensible and perky, and Ozzie was goofy, and they hung out, and mild amusement ensued. I thought there were certain types of people who had houses in the suburbs and lived lives of mild amusement, and that was all there was too it. But my family had to work and I had to go to the damn school and study (edit: I think it was nursery school, but it was a hard one, I remember I didn’t do something right and didn’t get a juice box one day for afternoon break)..

    My first realization that, dammit, life was not fair.

  54. 54.

    PsiFighter37

    Also just read on Twitter that Trump’s email sent an email calling Harris the ‘meanest’ politician. I had to LOL…what a WATB the orange shitstain is.

  56. 56.

    jl

    @Jay Noble: Thanks. I vaguely remember Ricky sang a song once on the show. So, I was wrong, some of them did actually do something around the house besides somehow causing mild amusement to ensue.

    Edit: I have to admit that I’m glad Trump is bringing me up to date on what is happening in the suburbs.

  58. 58.

    Nicole

    This thread caused me sudden panic, as I realized I didn’t know whether Bo’s Bagels, here in Harlem, had survived Covid-19.  I googled. They have.

    In my over a quarter-century in the city, they are the best I’ve ever eaten.  They will toast them for you, but unwillingly.  I have never asked.

    I’m going there tomorrow morning!  Thanks for bringing up bagels, Cole!

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    @debbie

    Used to be a Hungarian bakery right around there (2nd or 3rd, forget which) that made a deep dish apple pie to die for. Must have weighed five pounds.

    If buying a whole pie it came in the hefty metal pie tin in which it was baked. Price included a deposit for the pie tin, refunded when it was returned.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    @jl

    If you really, really, really have naught else to do, there are episodes available to stream on Prime.

  67. 67.

    Anotherlurker

    @debbie: H&H were the best! Dragging myself out of bed and on my feet, for an early morning call, H&H made the coming day seem worthwhile.

  70. 70.

    geg6

    @PsiFighter37:

    Chicago pizza is not pizza, IMHO.  Yuck.  We have fantastically good pizza right here in the Pittsburgh suburbs.  So many Italian immigrants, so much great pizza.

  71. 71.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    There is a bagel store near my house that is known for their water bagels.  Best in town.

  73. 73.

    Gin & Tonic

    You bagel people need to go to Montreal. Seriously.

    I’ve lived in NYC, I know what a bagel is. Go to Montreal. The added benefit is then you can also go to Schwartz’s and get a smoked meat sandwich.

  75. 75.

    Aleta

    @NotMax: Yeah.  Zabar’s for their shrimp salad or whitefish and some lox;  lines were always long.  Then down the street to H&H where the line was short if it wasn’t Sunday. They’d tell you what was still hot and what was hottest.  Then a block or so down to 79th St for a couple of papers at the newsstand, cross the street and take the elevator up to my friend’s deceased mother’s apartment, whose kitchen window looked down on Broadway.  Downside:  he was an off and on the wagon addict with flights of hyper paranoia.  (Then it was better to stay somewhere else, East Village friend in formerly abandoned bld. or Staten Is. friend.)    UW Side friend was also a friend of Kenny Shopsin, who’d named a soup after him and when he wasn’t paranoid he’d drive us down there in his pickup truck for soup.    NY NY a wonderful town.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    @debbie

    Was a one or two block stretch, midtown, along 9th Avenue with one Italian bakery after another. Butter cookie paradise.

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @WaterGirl: I think we call it “snark”

    and if Rikyrah’s gone to fix dinner:

    CNN’s Van Jones Secretly Helped Craft the Weak Trump Police Reform He Praised on TV

    ETA: also, this

    Van Jones@VanJones68 ·Apr 30, 2016
    When I say #NeverTrump, I don’t mean THIS Trump

    And of course, “This is the night Donald trump became my president!” I don’t watch CNN, so I don’t really have any idea what Van Jones’ deal is, but what the fuck is his deal?

  78. 78.

    Hungry Joe

    My Bernie Bro relatives have informed me that Kamala sealed the deal: Now there’s NO chance they’ll vote for Biden, because he’s a rapist and a war criminal, and now he’s got a cop as a running mate. So: No way we should spend a thin dime or even a plugged nickel trying to squeeze votes out of whatever leftover dead-enders are out there.

    Kamala was the smart choice. Had it been anyone but her, Biden would have had to explain: Why not Kamala? Nobody’s asking that question about any of the other VP possibilities.

  80. 80.

    Nicole

    @Hungry Joe: Call me crazy, but I’m thinking your relatives weren’t going to vote for Biden anyway.  I don’t know why I have that feeling, but I have that feeling.

  82. 82.

    jl

    @NotMax: “If you really, really, really have naught else to do, there are episodes available to stream on Prime.”

    I probably should. I don’t remember one damn thing anyone actually did on that show, except Ricky sang once, and there was some kind of vaguely mild amusement. Now I’m curious about how that show worked.

  87. 87.

    Barbara

    @Gin & Tonic: Good bagels aren’t that rare! There is a local coffee shop run by a Korean couple that sells their own freshly made bagels daily. They are so good. A lot of bagels are mediocre because they aren’t fresh or they don’t follow the traditional preparation method.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    Once upon a time, I liked Van Jones.  Then there was some brouhaha  and Obama let him go, right?

    Is that what happened?  Van Jones is pissed at Obama and never got over it?  That would give him common ground with Trump right there.

  90. 90.

    CaseyL

    @NotMax:  @Aleta:

    I lived in Philly as a kid, not New York, but we had many of the same eateries.

    A Zabar’s on the road from Philly to Atlantic City (where I spent every summer from age 8 to 20) was our summertime “dress up for dinner” destination.

    H&H from the supermarket – I still yearn for their cinnamon rolls and raisin bars.

  91. 91.

    Amir Khalid

    @e julius drivingstorm:

    I could throw a rock from my front yard and hit three houses with Trump 2020 flags.

    I am impressed by your throwing skills. How do you get a rock to ricochet from one house to the next?

  93. 93.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Hey, remember birtherism? It’s back! and you won’t believe which candidate they’re targeting!

    JOHN C. EASTMAN , PROFESSOR OF LAW, CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY AND SENIOR FELLOW, CLAREMONT INSTITUTE

    I never heard of Chapman University. I thought Claremont was tied to Pepperdine, one-time employer of The Great Crotch Sniffer, Ken Starr

  94. 94.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @jl: Rick Nelson had some musical chops. He was a step above the Fabians of the day and even had James Burton in his band.

  95. 95.

    Nicole

    @CaseyL: My stepmom lives in Central PA and there’s a hoagie shop there that has their bread trucked in from Philly every day.  They’re open from about 10AM to until they run out of bread.

    I’ve had the hoagies, and they are pretty amazing.  The bread is good bread.

  96. 96.

    gwangung

    @Hungry Joe:

    You might appreciate this little screed I stole from Facebook:

    It’s a little bit too convenient for white folks to develop a capitalist, patriarchal, white supremacist society, with capitalist, patriarchal, white suremacist systems, and then ensure that the only way for oppressed people to be financially secure and attain any level of power or influence is through the maintenance of these systems; only to flip the script once an oppressed person nears a pinnacle of power and use their ability to learn and play the game against them.

    Growing up, I remember so much talk about the need for us as Black kids to grow up and be doctors and lawyers, and “change the system from the inside”. To do this, you must be invulnerable – but, if you’re a woman, also just vulnerable enough. Don’t be soft – they’ll paint you as weak. Be strong but not abrasive, or you’ll be unapproachable, “hard to work with”, and in short, a bitch. And while this is true for women in general, it is particularly true for Black women, to combat the myriad stereotype that plague us any time we show up in authenticity. In spite of our highly educated status, Black women are still underemployed and underpaid, across all levels of education. Which is a gross reminder that no matter how hard you work or how educated you are, white America has to grant you access. And how do you get that access? By making them feel safe. By making sure they see you as on the “right” side. And by making compromises, because you know how important it is to the long game that you or someone like you has a seat at the table. But it also requires putting aside a part of yourself. Acting strategically. Taking a lot of L’s in favor of one big W in the long run. Quieting the lion inside that threatens to out you, knowing that you will never have the privilege of transparency or vulnerability, and that your missteps will never be granted grace.

    There is a conversation to be had about Kamala’s role as AG and how that positions her as a candidate, but that’s a conversation for the Black community to have. The white community needs to have a different conversation: a conversation about how you set the goal posts unreachably high and then when we finally score a goal, you have the audacity to question the rules that put us in scoring position in the first place. This country doesn’t have a Black female prosecutor problem; we have a white supremacy problem. And criticizing Senator Harris and charging her with crimes against Black people is an act of willful hubris and cognitive dissonance when it comes from white folks. Before you go off on Senator Harris, white folks, think very, very hard about the ways in your life you have contributed to the maintenance and perpetuation of racist, oppressive systems, and the ways you benefit from them. And then reflect on how those systems and benefits you and everyone you know help maintain dictate the choices of any BIPOC, any immigrant’s child, any Black woman, who aspires for excellence.

    I could tit-for-tat this all day: for every strike on her record, I could point out something she did to make things more fair for Black folks, for women. But that’s actually not the point. The real point is, that she didn’t do anything white prosecutors across the country haven’t done, but she did do a lot of things that they haven’t done. Would she have been in a position to do any of the positive if she hadn’t established credibility among white folks by drawing hard lines in other areas? Of course not. It’s the same thing as when folks talk about Obama not doing enough for Black people. He was our Black President, he wasn’t the president of Black people. If you want to continue to remain in a space where you can impact powerful change, you have to find a way to get and then keep that seat at the table in the first place.

  97. 97.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @jl: the one I could never figure out was Mike and Carol Brady talking about things being expensive. You have a fucking live-in maid, you’re rich!

  100. 100.

    jl

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: We need to demand the long-form documentation that the infant, one Kamala Harris, was really subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States.

    The goofball makes it sound like Harris’ parents were just in the US for enough time to have the kid. Which brings up the question, which needs an endless increasingly frantic investigation and loud controversy over exactly who those people were who were raising her during grade school in the SF Bay Area. Couldn’t have been her real parents. Hmmmm….

  102. 102.

    Aleta

    @NotMax: Used to go sit in Veniero’s on 11th St.  The waiter didn’t charge for sambuca or some other It. liqueur in the coffee.   He was just being kind.

  103. 103.

    rikyrah

    Here it is: Ohio Sec of State just spelled out a restriction to the location of drop boxes that appears nowhere in Ohio statute: “Boards of elections are prohibited from installing a drop box at any other location but the board of elections.”An absolute disgrace. pic.twitter.com/HXJsQdPtlV— David Pepper (@DavidPepper) August 12, 2020

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Subsole: it was at an Einstein bagels that I had my first old-man-carded experience. The twenty something cashier asked hesitantly if I was eligible for the senior discount and I laughed out loud and said, yes I am! I think she thought I was happy to save that dollar, and I was.

    I was 51 at the time. About a year ago.

  106. 106.

    Subsole

    @rikyrah:  Van Jones/Kushner deal???

     

    @jl: The dems gonna rape yer wimminfolk. Same place it always goes. Detriment to having a quater-track mind.

  112. 112.

    John Revolta

    The best pizza in NYC is Stromboli’s, 1st Ave. and St. Mark’s. It is known.

    Bagels: H&H is very good if you’re way the hell uptown. Better still is Bagels on the Square, 6th Ave. & Carmine St.

  115. 115.

    jl

    @rikyrah: Sad. At the end DeSantis wimps out and says they have the choice of in-person or distance learning. What’s the saying? Head of lion, tail of mouse? Or something… DeVos will be furious; full on 35+ kids in a super crowded room in disrepair is the only way to go according to her, that is the only quality education.

  117. 117.

    jl

    @Baud: “Are the kids bin Laden?”

    Not sure it works well no matter how to take it.

    Edit: but the distance learning option at the end was inspiring. Deep patrol behind enemy lines taking sniper fire, just an AR-15 and jungle knife between you and death, or wrangling a Zoom chat, which is scarier?

  120. 120.

    Cameron

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’ve never heard of Chappedass University, either, though I have heard of Claremont.  IANAL, but this looks like a load of tedious bullshit, decorated with various unsupported assertions (e.g., her father’s naturalization status) and vague fear-mongering (dual loyalties?  Jamaica and India?  WTF?).  The one thing he’s right about is that his argument won’t go anywhere…what am I saying?  If it makes it somehow to the Supreme Court, who knows?

  121. 121.

    tomtofa

    @dmsilev: Here’s another recipe, similar but with a couple of differences – less kneading, longer letting the dough rest, poking a finger rather than rolling a log to shape the bagel:

    Martin Phillip’s Poolish Bagels

    Both make good bagels, better than any store-bought or bagel-chain place, for sure. My daughter, exiled out here in NorCal from Brooklyn, approves.

  122. 122.

    Subsole

    @rikyrah: Ugh. I wish these heathens would just go start a fight club and work out their daddy issues and leave the rest of us alone already…

  125. 125.

    Zelma

    @NotMax:

    Bookbinders Snapper Soup!

    Snapper soup used to be a standard on the menu of every sea food restaurant at the Jersey shore.  Not any more.  Of course, there aren’t that many old fashioned sea food restaurants at the Jersey shore.  Too plebeian.

  126. 126.

    Cameron

    @Nicole: Do you happen to know which bakery?  When I lived in Philly a lot of my friends and I had a thing for Sarcone’s.

  129. 129.

    cain

    @PsiFighter37:

    Well if it is only 60 seconds, why is she one of 4 speakers for that day? It seems like all the other days it is full speakers.. that means the other 3 speakers on the day that AOC speakers will have more time or is it something else?

  130. 130.

    toine

    best bagels in the world are in Montreal…. just sayin

     

    ps: NY bagels are bread with a hole…

  131. 131.

    rp

    Chicago pizza isn’t just deep dish! The more traditional style is square cut and super thin.

    also, NY pizza ON AVERAGE is better than anywhere else, but there are a ton of great pizza places all over the country.

  132. 132.

    rikyrah

    Thread

    Just spent the last 2 hours phone banking here in Texas. I called a grandmother. She’s 91. Black. She answered so sweet. I told her who I was, and asked if she was registered to vote for November. She said YES MAAM! I said, “wonderful. I hope we can expect your support…”— Stephanie Clay ? (@_StephanieClay) August 12, 2020

  135. 135.

    rikyrah

    @rikyrah:

     

     

    “…. for the Biden Harris ticket.” She said, “Harris?” I said yes. She said, “He picked Kamala“ and broke down in tears, and started praying for Kamala. ? I started to cry because I knew why this moment was heavy. I asked her, “what was she feeling?” She said…— Stephanie Clay ? (@_StephanieClay) August 12, 2020

  137. 137.

    jl

    @Cameron: Any objective person who is not a fool or a knave must admit there are big big questions hanging over who Kama Harris really is. Need several task forces to even begin a thorough investigation.

    I’m focusing on the over-arching and most important issue: Is Kamala Harris authentically authentic.

    You are most welcome. I live to serve.

  139. 139.

    cain

    @Hungry Joe:

    They’ll come around – there is a lot more shit that Trump is going to be doing from now till election. They have absolutely no way of getting rid him without backing biden/harris and that’s  fact.

    Otherwise they’ll just be yelling at clouds.

  141. 141.

    rikyrah

    @rikyrah:

     

    “baby, I’m overjoyed. Look at God.” I told her I’ve been emotional all afternoon thinking about my slave great great grandparents, and how I wish they knew it would get better. She told me about her days picking cotton, and about her scarred hands.— Stephanie Clay ? (@_StephanieClay) August 12, 2020

  142. 142.

    rikyrah

    @rikyrah:

     

    She talked about her grandfather being lynched. She told me she hoped Kamala had the best security. She’s afraid someone will try to hurt her. We prayed again. Before we hung up she told me to dream bigger than my last dream. I promised I would. Thank you Mrs Ethel. ❤️— Stephanie Clay ? (@_StephanieClay) August 12, 2020

  143. 143.

    opiejeanne

    @Aleta: She got chased by a bear??!!!

    Isn’t fresh produce amazing? I remember when we ate our first home-grown potatoes that were so fresh it was an almost electric experience. We knew about carrots, but everything else has been a revelation that is repeated in smaller form every early summer when we eat our first fresh vegetables.

  148. 148.

    Hungry Joe

    @cain: No, they won’t come around. They insist that Biden may be even worse than Trump, because at least Trump hasn’t gotten us into a war — which Biden, being a warmonger, is likely to do. They’ll vote Green, or not at all. And they’re in a key swing state. ***SIGH

  150. 150.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    if I correctly followed the numbers Rachel Maddow just rattled off, Biden-Harris has raised $35M since the announcement. 26 on Act Blue, then another 9 through a virtual fundraiser tonight

    also, now I want to go on an eating tour of Manhattan, starting, and maybe finishing, at The Sturgeon King

  151. 151.

    Nicole

    @Cameron: I don’t- I just googled the company to see if they said, and they don’t, just that the reason the hoagie place is closed on Sundays is because the bakeries in Philly they get their bread from are closed on Sundays and they won’t sell hoagies made with day-old rolls.

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    @Hungry Joe:  That wasn’t a nag, it was just a question, so you are not allowed to feel guilty.  :-)

    My computer has a new logic board and a new hard drive, and now (fucking!) Outlook will not let me search my email.

    So I feel like I have 3 hands tied behind my back and I have to ask stupid things like that rather than just searching my email.

  156. 156.

    jl

    @Patricia Kayden: Is that a pic of the whole mega church? Doesn’t look nearly big enough to be mega to me. In my hometown we got some mega-churches the size of a small high school campus.

  159. 159.

    WaterGirl

    @rikyrah: I know it’s not funny, but it’s so ridiculous that I laughed.

    Looks like I’m going to have to pull out the tried and true:

    What the fuck is wrong with these people?

    edit: I watched the clip at laughed again.  Totally ridiculous.  How do these politicians have families?  Kids who aren’t ashamed?  Wives who will actually stay married to these pieces of shit?

  160. 160.

    rikyrah

    @geg6:

    all the while Van Jones was praising Dolt45 on CNN for “prison reform” , it was a setup. He had been working with Kushner all along, but didn’t reveal the connection as he worked on CNN??

  162. 162.

    CaseyL

    @NotMax: I recognize the name, but don’t remember if I ever ate there.  My folks moved us to Florida when I was 12.  I’ve been back to Philly a couple times since (and really enjoyed it!) but not long enough for any in-depth dining expeditions.

  163. 163.

    mrmoshpotato

    Is Kurt tired of Fucker Carlson’s bullshit? I can’t tell. :)

    Does he not realize that, by throwing thin-skinned temper tantrums like his God King, he is forever renaming himself Cucker Tarlson? #CallMeCuckerTarlson— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) August 13, 2020

  166. 166.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @jl: I don’t remember one damn thing anyone actually did on that show, except Ricky sang once, and there was some kind of vaguely mild amusement.

    Obviously all the shows were shot during the offseason.

    What offseason? you ask. Weeeel – Ozzie Nelson was the founder, leader & male vocalist of the Ozzie Nelson Band, a swing ensemble of the 1930s and 1940s; Harriet joined the band as a female vocalist, & they got hitched. All long predating the radio & then TV shows. (You could look it up.) So clearly the shows were all filmed when the band wasn’t touring & no one in the Nelson household had anything to do but lay about & get into trouble. Voilà!

  168. 168.

    Anne Laurie

    @Jinchi: That’s a pretty good summary of Delaney’s run:  He was the warm-up act before the actual money-makers showed up!

  170. 170.

    Aleta

    @opiejeanne: She was picking berries;  she usually freezes some and sells them to friends.  A bear and her cub were also having the berries.  She got charged by the mother who just wanted her to go away.  She’s not picking any more berries.

  171. 171.

    Yutsano

    @NotMax: Einstein Bros will scratch an itch.

    I unfortunately live in a bagel desert. There used to be a shop here that had decent ones but then they shrank their size so much they’re almost a gem doughnut. And tripled the prices. So I either have to get store bought (gag) or hope I can find a shop on my next Seattle visit. I need MikeJ, Opie, or CaseyL here (or any of the other Seattle Juicers) to give me some guidance here.

  173. 173.

    CaseyL

    @WaterGirl: They’re ghouls, plain and simple; and like marries like.

    Being a soulless ghoul with no interest in or understanding of basic humanity seems to be a requirement for membership in the GOP, whether as an office holder or as a voter/supporter.

    Also, in places like backwoods Florida and Alabama, college football is the only thing they have that isn’t shit.  College football is already a quasi-religion in those communities.  I can easily see parents deciding that playing games is tantamount to serving God’s Will, and if the kid dies, somehow that means God loves them extra.

  175. 175.

    opiejeanne

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Chapman University is in the city of Orange. If you are aware of the Michael Connolly police detective character, Harry Bosch, his daughter goes there.

    It has a decent reputation, but then people like Eastman manage to get a foothold in a lot of good institutions. It’s rated #125 by the raters of Universities.

    I never heard of the Claremont Institute and at first I thought it was a reference to one of the Claremont Colleges, esp. Claremont-McKenna. It’s a think tank started by 4 people, located in Upland but lists its headquarters is located in Claremont. Obviously, they’re trying to trade on the name of a good institute, and their address is not in the upscale town of Claremont but in much cheaper Upland, probably in a spare room of one of these people or a basement of a parent.

  183. 183.

    Subsole

     

     

    @rikyrah: Huh, and here I thought he was dancing for Trump because he couldn’t admit he helped foist him on us…

    Like, I get C. West and Eddie Glaude are mad because they lost their kingmaker places. What’s Jones’s beef??

  184. 184.

    Yutsano

    @trnc:  I am totally happy with her going back to being a Congresswoman. I just have one caveat: her replacement CANNOT be Steny Hoyer. And if her replacement is a younger member of Congress, I hope s/he has the wisdom to either keep her on speed dial or make her the Majority Whip. That’s the real cat herder.

  185. 185.

    NotMax

    @trnc

    The deal, IIRC, was to step aside as Speaker in 2022 (provided she is again voted Speaker in the upcoming Congress).

  186. 186.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    Clarification:
    The deal, IIRC, was to continue as Speaker through 2022 (provided she is again voted Speaker in the upcoming Congress).

  187. 187.

    Aleta

    My niece was going to get married in Paris in early October.  At the Ritz.  I was about to book everything when it got bad. They moved the wedding to next year, but who knows.

  188. 188.

    prostratedragon

    @Aleta:  Yeah, that’s the location I was picturing. I remember other good ones at 107th and 110th on Bway, as well as numerous Comidas Chinas y Criollas which had good, cheap sustenance. Bet they’re all gone now.

  189. 189.

    Aleta

    @prostratedragon: The last time I was near the UWS, the feeling from the people on the street was not the same temperature at all.   The spots I used to go were gone.   Even back when I used to stay there or further uptown,  it was being fought over, tenants vs bld owners, years of court battles.

  191. 191.

    TS (the original)

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Ignoring restrictions is why Melbourne (Australia) has level 4 restrictions and a curfew. The US is never going to stop the virus with the stupidity of just too many of the people that live there.

  193. 193.

    Tim Wayne

    Oh, dude. A just-from-the-garden tomato on a bagel with all that other stuff is the best thing ever. When the early girls show up at the farmer’s market, I think I eat at least two a day until they go out of season.

  195. 195.

    Jinchi

    @rikyrah: Florida is apparently very upset that their undercount over the last two months is going to result in an overcount today.

    (1/2) Today, the Florida Department of Health (DOH) received a backlog of testing data from Niznik Lab Corp in Miami, dating back to June 23rd. The lab reported over 4,000 cases occurring over the past 7 weeks, but which had not been reported to DOH until today.

    (2/2)Therefore, this backlog severely skews today’s daily report for Miami-Dade & is not reflective of current trends. Once DOH was informed of this testing data backlog, we immediately reached out to Niznik Lab & we are investigating the matter, along with Miami-Dade leadership.

    I suppose this is fine as long as there aren’t any other labs in Florida that have been forgetting to report their results.

  197. 197.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Hungry Joe: I’m sure others have chimed in, but your Bernie Bro relatives are idiots. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t vote for any Democrat ever.

    I have a similar ‘friend’. You know the whole “politics is a bus – you get on the bus that’ll take you closest to where you want to go” metaphor? The last time someone posted that he started yelling but what if the bus isn’t going where they say it is and if the seats are all covered in a foul brown liquid and so on. Everyone else in the thread just kinda said “Okay man, I guess the metaphor doesn’t work for everybody.”

    Some people don’t want to win, and are too high on their own purity.

  198. 198.

    joel hanes

    @cain:

    Sixty seconds is all that Rep. Ocasio Cortez will need to coin a compelling slogan, make a sly joke, say something brilliant in support of Biden/Harris, and eviscerate four prominent Republicans.

    The woman knows how to use words.

    Lesser speakers need more time, and still cannot achieve the same effect.   Lightning::lightningbug

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