Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Fight for a just cause, love your fellow man, live a good life.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Just because you believe it, that does not make it true.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

T R E 4 5 O N

Well, whatever it is, it’s better than being a Republican.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

Sadly, media malpractice has become standard practice.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Beware of advice from anyone for whom Democrats are “they” and not “we.”

America is going up in flames. The NYTimes fawns over MAGA celebrities. No longer a real newspaper.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

The current Supreme Court is a dangerous, rogue court.

Nothing says ‘pro-life’ like letting children go hungry.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

Roe is not about choice. It is about freedom.

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  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    So the freak out about letting the four Republicans talk was sound and fury signifying nothing. It was short, sweet, and to the point. And the cognitive hook for Republican leaning Independents and on the fence Republicans in terms of giving them permission to go ahead and vote for Biden to put country over party is worth the five minutes or so it took on the program.

  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    @Adam L Silverman: And I think following the GOP (ex) pols with a bunch of ordinary-folks GOP voters was the right call. Helps make it more plausible for similar folks watching to make that same transition or decision.

  6. 6.

    lamh36

    Went to get some snacks when the “former” Republicans came on…but I understand it. We don’t just need to beat Chump, we NEED a mandate.

     

    To do that we need to have some of those never-trumpers and former Trumpers to vote along w/Dems hopefully NOT just top of ticket, but to get rid of the GOP that enable Chump…so I get it!

     

    But I don’t have to listen to em…LOL

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    @Baud

    I hope he pulls it out.

    There’s a Fred Trump Sr. quip in there but I shall refrain from further explanation, even on B-J After Dark.

    :)

  17. 17.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    I would have  liked to have seen a Brady Bunch Zoom screen of republicans saying they are voting for Biden.  Then keep adding squares until there are thousands and thousands on screen saying the same thing.  Just for shits and giggles.

  19. 19.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Elizabelle:

    I loved that! Am I remembering correctly, didn’t she shoot a couple of her campaign commercials in 2018 in that very kitchen? It all seemed kind of familiar.

  20. 20.

    Patricia Kayden

    Reason #1,000,000 to vote Trump out.

    I’m a disabled combat veteran and I get my all my meds (a considerable amount) through the #USPS. I have asthma and I’m waiting on an inhaler. I can’t breathe. #USPSprotest— Mike is not amused (@dustmyblues) August 16, 2020

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Dare I say it? I’m even looking forward to Wilmer’s address.

    Okay, maybe not exactly “looking forward to,” but at least not dreading.

  23. 23.

    zhena gogolia

    For personal reasons, I can’t watch tonight, but I’m glad to hear it’s going well. I have found that for things like conventions, Zoom works much better than herding a bunch of people into a physical space. You get to focus on the substance.

  28. 28.

    Another Scott

    @Alison Rose: +1

    Kasich’s comments were insulting.  It’s not just Donnie.  He’s not an anomaly.  He’s not breaking everything by himself.  The GOP is broken as well, and saying that we all need to listen to each other and find a new way forward is gaslighting us.  Kasich ignored his Democratic opponent in a joint press interview.  He’s not one to lecture us about being respectful and listening and so forth.

    Welcome aboard in getting rid of Donnie.  Don’t expect that to prevent us from trying to defeat every Republican everywhere, though…

    Grrr….

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  29. 29.

    lamh36

    Alright now Amy K! Amy Klobuchar: “You know, the president may hate the post office, but he’s still going to have to send them a change of address card in January.”

  30. 30.

    Mary G

    Amy K will never stop talking about the snowy day she announced, but I admire so much how she dropped out and endorsed Biden, and withdrew from the VP search.

  37. 37.

    lamh36

    Doug Jones hit it OUT the park

     

    With photos of Addie May Collins, Carol McNair, Cynthia Wesley, and Carole Robertson in the background.

  41. 41.

    jnfr

    I love seeing all the Dem candidates here! I really liked most of them. And boy, do the primaries seem like a lifetime ago.

  43. 43.

    guachi

    A convention with very little live works incredibly well as you can quick cut between people and pack MORE speakers in. Like this clip of the other Democratic candidates. Just brilliant.

  46. 46.

    Kay

    @guachi:

    Smiling Klobuchar is kinda creepy.

    She’s mean. You have to get past that and embrace her good qualities. There’s room for mean people in this party. They have strengths.

  53. 53.

    guachi

    Okay, Klobuchar saying “He blamed The PM of Canada for cutting him out of the Canadian version of Home Alone 2. Who does that?!?” made me laugh.

  55. 55.

    Kay

    I think the story line of Biden as uniquely suited to the time is persuasive, probably because there’s truth to it.

  60. 60.

    dmsilev

    @Baud: That montage was the political version of the Hollywood “here’s the pep talk before us ragged band of misfits goes up against the big evil overlord” scene.

  62. 62.

    Marcopolo

    @guachi: Exactly, moving bodies around a convention stage eats up minutes.  And I am not missing the applauses or booing which also eat up time.

  71. 71.

    MomSense

    Gotta say I’m impressed with this convention.  I had no idea what to expect or how they would keep it energetic without a crowd.  I think the shorter segments and cutting from live to taped with music keeps the interest and energy. Except for the iconic speeches like the Obamas and the Clintons with balloons I think I prefer this format. I want to know which Hollywood Dems produced it.  Any guesses? Rob Reiner?  Ron Howard? Eva Duvernay?

  83. 83.

    Kay

    @Alison Rose:

    Right, but they’re onto something they can work with here. It’s really pretty smart. “This person you’re so familiar with hasn’t changed – the conditions changed and he’s uniquely suited to them”.

    I think people can go along with that “that guy – he would be perfect for this!”  That’s something that actually happens.

  85. 85.

    guachi

    I love that they keep hammering Biden’s decency. It’s his one superpower. It’s his kryptonite to Trump’s fundamental indecency.

  86. 86.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    Lord, I have never asked you for anything, except for time I had a lot of money on Arsenal, but please help me through this speech

  88. 88.

    Alison Rose

    Isn’t it interesting that Bernie seems more firm with his supporters about needing to back Biden than he was about needing to back Clinton. VERY INTERESTING, ahem.

  91. 91.

    MomSense

    Ok I have to note that even though we cynical lefties often mock the idea of personal relationships being effective political tools – it worked in Bernie.  The Bidens were just about the only ones who have been friends with the Sanders all these years.  It made a difference.

  96. 96.

    Elizabelle

    Be fun to count the transcript for “Trump.”  For the most part, that name is not there.

  97. 97.

    lamh36

    See alot of nitpicking by the usual punditry about the format.

    I think it’s because they can’t control the narrative.  They can’t have cameramen looking for folks in the crowd frowning or folding their arms, are looking perturbed. They can’t have closeup of stupid protests or whistles or posters or whatever. They can’t control the visual narrative and they are NOT happy about it.

  103. 103.

    Elizabelle

    OK, he said “Trump.”  Right after Nero.  I am good with that.

    Nero fiddles.  Trump golfs.

  107. 107.

    HumboldtBlue

    @Adam L Silverman:

    OK, but how much of that was due to the fact that we didn’t have to endure 45 minutes of live TV of clapping, crowd shots, Chuck Todd musings?

    This online platform is very effective so far because we don’t have the cable media filter.

    Kasich is still a ballbag but if he helped here, good.

    Sweet Jesus typing quickly, I started this response when there were like 8 total comments!

  115. 115.

    dmsilev

    @Omnes Omnibus: Most of his supporters have already come along. A fair number of the ones who haven’t are flat-out unreachable; some of them have basically turned on Bernie and called him a sellout etc. It’s that narrow segment in between that this speech is aimed at.

  117. 117.

    Elizabelle

    Yea!  Talking about prison reform.  Yea, Bernie.

    “The coddling of white nationalists.”

  120. 120.

    WaterGirl

    if you have a good way to watch or listen to the convention that’s not in the list at the top – just above Recent Comments – please add links in the comments.  thanks.

  121. 121.

    Another Scott

    @Baud: I haven’t heard that word.

    It’s like he actually had a speechwriter include things that are relevant now, rather than just recycling his 2016 stump speech.

    It’s pretty good.  I’ll have to see what J thinks about it later.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

    (“Who is a little concerned by his remark about continuing his ‘movement’…”)

  124. 124.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @Alison Rose: They could say “frigging” with a big wink.

    Does frigging mean something else over there? I would have put it on the same lewdness level as fuck.

    There is always the traditional feck or frak for the Irish and/or nerd viewers.

  127. 127.

    dmsilev

    Bernie gets a (sitting) ovation. I imagine all of the keynote speakers will get crowd (so to speak) reaction shots like that.

  130. 130.

    Soprano2

    I switched to CNN, the network talking heads were pissing me off. I didn’t tune in to hear them blather!

  131. 131.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud:

    And Bernie knows he won’t have another shot in 4 years.

    I think that’s key.  Bernie has come to terms with the fact that it’s never gonna happen for him.

  132. 132.

    Origuy

    Actually, Nero was out of Rome when the fire started. He came back quickly and organized the relief effort. Then he demolished several acres of prime real estate to build his new palace, the Domus Aurea.

  134. 134.

    lamh36

    Alright now Symone…toot your horn girl!!!

    Someone said Symone Sanders may be the BEST hire Joe Biden did for his campaign.  She has been perfect!

     

    @SymoneDSanders

    “Together we must build a nation that is more equitable, more compassionate and more inclusive. I know Joe Biden will begin that fight on day one.” – @BernieSanders Love it when the old boss and the new boss come together!

    9:42 PM · Aug 17, 2020

  136. 136.

    guachi

    I love that Sanders didn’t hide that he disagreed with Biden on health care. I love that he *did* point out areas where he agreed with Biden on health care and other issues.

  141. 141.

    debbie

    @patrick II:

    I have to agree. I thought his speech was really strong and he said things out loud that maybe Joe shouldn’t. He never called Trump “president” which I really liked. I’m not sure his followers will fall in line, though.

  145. 145.

    Kay

    Kaitlan Collins
    @kaitlancollins
    ·2h
    Trump on Kasich speaking at the DNC: “He was a loser as a Republican and he’ll be a loser as a Democrat. Major loser as a Republican. I guess you can quote me on that. John was a loser as a Republican. Never even came close. And as a Democrat, he’ll be an even greater loser.”

    A loser who Ohio Republicans enthusiastically voted for, twice. It must be so weird to be a Trumpster. They all have to live in his alternate reality.

  146. 146.

    Kent

    Michelle is killing it. But I’m not sure about the background. Looks like she is sitting in a warehouse.

  155. 155.

    Adam L Silverman

    @lamh36:

    may be the BEST hire Joe Biden did for his campaign

    That’s because none of my high level senior contacts could ever get the Biden world people to contact me for a nat-sec position.

    That said, she’s excellent and was a very, very, very smart hire.

  159. 159.

    Another Scott

    I like that Michelle is calling out people who couldn’t be bothered to vote Democratic last time.

    And talking about what responsible leaders did in previous epidemics.

    Bring it.

    We need to turn out our voters.  That’s the key – not flipping Republicans.  (Though, of course, we’ll take every voter we can get.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  161. 161.

    Elizabelle

    Total and utter lack of empathy.

    … the ability to be able to walk in someone else’s shoes … that someone else’s [life] has value, too.

  163. 163.

    cain

    Michelle… she is.. so extraordinary..

    Obama has a gift.. but Michelle brings something so natural and intimate. This is a great ending for the first day.

  171. 171.

    cain

    nooooo.. when they go low, we kick their ass!!!!!

    ETA – she’s totally channeling Gandhi right now.

  177. 177.

    James E Powell

    @TS (the original):

    Kasich thinks trump is the problem rather than the GOP.

    Although it is total bullshit, it is the only narrative that has any chance of reaching Republicans voters.

  181. 181.

    Another Scott

    “Going high does not mean putting on a smile when viciousness is happening all around us…”

    She’s inspiring.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  183. 183.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @MomSense: she’s extraordinary

    I always suspected in the last weeks of ’16 the campaign had a deliberate strategy to bait trump into going after her, and MRO was right there in on it

    “He’s in over his head”

    a shot right to mush, he’s chewing the carpet right now

  188. 188.

    guachi

    “profoundly decent”

    “He listens”

     

    Yeah, that’s what you get from Joe Biden. It’s the opposite of Trump.

  193. 193.

    Mary G

    "I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed" has never been more effective nor more patriotic than right now in Michelle Obama's mouth.— Phillip Atiba Goff (@DrPhilGoff) August 18, 2020

  196. 196.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Another Scott:

    “Going high does not mean putting on a smile when viciousness is happening all around us…”

    She’s inspiring.

    Indeed she is. She really should’ve gone into politics, but I understand her reasons for not doing so

  197. 197.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @dmsilev:

    Michelle “be very afraid” Obama is a new thing, and kind of worrisome.

    she’s ready to borrow a phrase from her husband’s anger translator: “Y’all motherfuckers wouldn’t lisssss-ten”. So everybody listen now.

  200. 200.

    dmsilev

    @TaMara (HFG): Melania reading a line of “I am a black woman speaking at the Democratic Convention” would almost making watching next week’s hatefest worthwhile. Almost.

  207. 207.

    cain

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Indeed she is. She really should’ve gone into politics, but I understand her reasons for not doing so

    She is in the role that she needs to be. She isn’t interested in politics, she is a humanist, and her role as she has now is where we need her to be.

  208. 208.

    lamh36

    “It is what it is…”

    Let me tell ya’ll, THAT is an African American proverb!

    Alright now Michelle!

     

    #DNC2020convention

  210. 210.

    TS (the original)

    @James E Powell:

    Although it is total bullshit, it is the only narrative that has any chance of reaching Republicans voters.

    Then I sure hope some of them hear him – he didn’t have to talk them up.

  212. 212.

    Yutsano

    “We have to vote for Joe Biden in numbers that cannot be ignored.”

    Calling for a landslide. And calling out both the purity voters and the jokesters.

  215. 215.

    Elizabelle

    Pack a brown bag dinner and maybe breakfast too …

    to stand in line to vote.  In America.

  217. 217.

    Another Scott

    Going after people voting 3rd parties and withholding votes, also too.

    She’s very good at this.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  221. 221.

    Adam L Silverman

    @lamh36: Unless she’s planning on endorsing Joe Biden next week during prime time at the RNC nominating convention, I don’t think Melania is going to be able to plagiarize this speech.

  223. 223.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dmsilev:

    Melania reading a line of “I am a black woman speaking at the Democratic Convention” would almost making watching next week’s hatefest worthwhile. Almost.

    You owe me a new iPhone and a new t-shirt.

  237. 237.

    Adam L Silverman

    @dmsilev: When I say this stuff I’m paranoid, but when Michelle Obama says it it’s “we better pay attention!” I see how it is…//

  238. 238.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Shannon Watts@shannonrwatts 6m
    “If you think things cannot possibly get worse, trust me, they can. And they will if we don’t make a change in this election. If we have any hope of ending this chaos, we have got to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depend on it,”@MichelleObama #DemConvention

    I know you all heard it, but…

    ETA” is it just me or is Joy Reid weeping, and do Rachel’s eyes look a little wet?

  239. 239.

    Elizabelle

    Stephen Stills and Billy Porter.

    ETA:  I love that Billy has the hint of a skirt, but only a hint.  He has a good voice.

    Why is he famous?  Other than his imaginative wardrobe??

  242. 242.

    Yutsano

    “This is YOUR convention. This is YOUR campaign.”

    Eva killed it tonight. And loving the cover of “For What It’s Worth”.

  245. 245.

    Another Scott

    Stills and Porter.

    Excellent!  Really well done, and an excellent song for the times.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  257. 257.

    Yutsano

    @Adam L Silverman: Could you IMAGINE if it’s reealed she actually did vote for Biden? The divorce lawyers for both sides would be on speed dial. And she did re-negotiate her pre-nup.

  260. 260.

    CaseyL

    They’re recapping?  Looks like a wrap for the evening.  If so, this has been an AMAZING opening night.

    Michelle’s speech was beyond wonderful.

  265. 265.

    ellie

    Billie Porter and Stephen Stills were fantastic! A great end to a great night.

    Love Michelle. Forever FLOTUS.

  266. 266.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @cain:

    I’ll give Sanders credit here. He fully understands the stakes here, finally. Not that we were going to get the dead enders’ votes anyway, I do wonder how many of his followers have turned on him as a result of trying to do what all politicians of the same party/interests do and come together in the end

  267. 267.

    West of the Cascades

    @Adam L Silverman: I don’t think Melania is going to be able to plagiarize this speech.

    Maybe she will – maybe she’s ready to be done with DC, and ready to have her husband indicted (perhaps that triggers some excape clause in the pre-nup?)

  269. 269.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Jelani cobb @jelani9 4m
    Michelle Obama just turned the infomercial format into a literary genre.

    Daniel W. Drezner @dandrezner 4m
    Only caught the last few minutes of Michelle Obama’s speech but it is extraordinary. Strong message, lots of emotion. Most important, she was able to use the strengths of delivering a Zoom speech rather than trying to compensate for the lack of an audience.

    S.E. Cupp @secupp 20m
    My god. Michelle makes everyone else look like amateurs. No one can deliver a speech like she can. Even in these conditions, she leaves you hanging on every syllable. Few can do that.

  272. 272.

    dmsilev

    @CaseyL: Yes, that’s it for tonight. The schedule is 2 hours for each night. I think the compressed schedule, without all the pauses for crowd reactions and so forth, really helped.

  273. 273.

    Marcopolo

    Watching MSNBC.  They did a good job with very minimal cutaways—They were 15 secs or so at most.  And if I’m going to listen to folks talk Maddow, Wallace, and Reid are a pretty good trio.  Now if Brian Williams keeps quiet we are all good.

  278. 278.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Elizabelle: Billy Porter was big on Broadway (won a Tony in 2013 for Best Actor in a Musical, and several other awards) and won a Grammy in 2014 for “Kinky Boots” and in 2019 won an Emmy for Lead Actor in a Drama Series, for his work on “Pose” (becoming the first openly gay man to win in any lead acting category at the Emmys).

    He was also named one of the “Pride50” LGBTQ “trailblazing individuals who actively ensure society remains moving towards equality, acceptance, and dignity for all queer people” by a popular gay website.

  280. 280.

    TS (the original)

    Bri seems to be out of the conversation at MSNBC.  Nicole tried to bring him into the conversation – did not work.

  282. 282.

    different-church-lady

    BERNIE: “We’re making progressive progress. Let’s get behind Joe and get the fascists out of the White House!”

    BERNIE STANS: “MY GUY WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT SO EVERYTHING CAN GO TO HELL!!1! INCLUDING MY GUY!!!11!!”

  283. 283.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    The Lincoln Project @ProjectLincoln 21m
    We go low so you don’t have to. #DNC2020

    Tom Nichols@RadioFreeTom11m
    Checking on Trump-world Tweeters, and if the measure of success here is that they’re losing their minds, the Dems did pretty well tonight.

  286. 286.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Sister Golden Bear: The Burbank photo is wrong. They’ve locked the drive up slots because someone had figured out how to steal mail through them. A Burbank resident tweeted out photos and videos of the other side of the box, with the little pull down door that blocks access to the actual mail while it is open and they are unlocked. And the same person explained that they lock the Burbank post office after business hours because people were stealing stuff and trying to break into PO boxes.

    I did not know that Burbank was the postal crime capitol of the US.

  290. 290.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    I watched at the convention website, http://www.demconvention.com/.  No commentary, no interruptions, no commercials, just the convention. Highly recommend.

    Powerful stuff from beginning to end. And choosing “For What It’s Worth” as the closing number was an interesting choice, bringing to mind all those comparisons with 1968 that boomers have been talking about all year already.

    The hippies won in 1974 when Nixon resigned. And then lost, big time, for a generation, when Reagan came in in 1980. I believe the victory will be much more thorough and lasting this time.

  291. 291.

    MomSense

    I really like Claire McCaskill.  She has the best decorated house, too.  Seriously amazing, especially the black gallery room.

  292. 292.

    NotMax

    The DNC channel on Roku must have been absolutely swamped during Obama’s speech. First time ever I’ve experienced buffering in the midst of a program. And that’s with a solid high speed connection. Still didn’t miss a word.

  295. 295.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Chris Christie called Jon Kasich a backstabber? Okay, if he pissed off the Outlaw Jersey Whale that much, I’m now more okay with Kasich having been there tonight

  296. 296.

    different-church-lady

    You know, if the Dems keep this up Trump may have to drink another glass of water.

  297. 297.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @cain:

    They are shitty people – and aren’t really interested in fixing things – just angry resentful people.

    They have a lot in common with Trump supporters than they’d probably care to admit

  300. 300.

    Winston

    Tomorrow I vote in the Democratic Primary in Florida. I requested my Ballot early July and received in mid July, filled it out and put it in my mailbox the next day. I waited a week and checked in to the Election Commision website in my County. They had received it, verified it, and it was in the que to be counted. So a few more days and I’ll find out about that and make my decision about whether I vote by mail Nov 3.

  305. 305.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    didn’t hit me till Beutler pointed it out

    Brian Beutler@brianbeutler 6m
    I missed that she turned “it is what it is” around on Trump during the delivery.

  306. 306.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Checking on Trump-world Tweeters, and if the measure of success here is that they’re losing their minds, the Dems did pretty well tonight.

    I’m curious to know what Nichols means by “losing their minds”. Don’t want to get out of the boat and lose my sanity. I’m willing to bet it’s QAnon insanity with some heaping bigotry on the side

  308. 308.

    Yutsano

    @WaterGirl: I watched on C-SPAN I turned it off as soon as the last prayer ended. I hope they get some other religions to do the benedictions.

  310. 310.

    Gary K

    @Elizabelle: At the risk of spelling out what you already perfectly well know, Doug Jones was the prosecutor of the two KKK members who murdered those four girls.

  312. 312.

    lamh36

    I need me a shirt with Michelle Obama on it with the caption “It is what it is”! STAT…lol

    Alright good night BJ

  320. 320.

    cain

    It seems Kasich speech has been doing well with Republicans who call in on the Republican line on CSPAN.

  321. 321.

    cain

    The dead-enders are all yelling that they are voting Republican because Obama divided this country. Assholes.

  322. 322.

    debbie

    @Kay:

    I just caught the end of the report and have no link, but Yost sent a letter to Trump asking him not to mess with the post office before the election.

    I can read DeWine, Husted, and LaRose pretty well, but I cannot read Yost. Do you think he’ll defend the post office and the election at all?

  324. 324.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @WaterGirl: I am sure they are.

    Also, I really thought the music was great – except for the Porter-Stills thing at the end.  It just did not work for me.

  326. 326.

    SiubhanDuinne

     

    @lamh36:

    I’d buy that shirt. I’m also sorely tempted by a tote bag I saw earlier today that reads, simply:

    PERSON
    WOMAN
    MAN
    VOTE
    BIDEN

  327. 327.

    WaterGirl

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think they are competitive, too.

    I thought the music was great and really liked the choice of song at the end, but wasn’t altogether fond of Porter’s cover, and It was a bit flat to just have Stills just standing there.

    That’s just quibbling, however, because overall I agree with you that the music was excellent.  The whole night was excellent.

  329. 329.

    WaterGirl

    A good day for our side.  Nice watching with you guys.

    I thought Eva L did a most excellent job – she will be a tough act to follow.

    I am really looking forward to the 17 people doing the first “Keynote” hour tomorrow.

    Good night, everybody.

  333. 333.

    leeleeFL

    When I think back on all the times I watched Joe Biden run for President….and then was asked to be Barack’s VP  and accepted I really thought he would retire after that job well done and think he got close enough.  But, this time is made for Joe to be that President that holds all the factions of the Democratic Party together and lets my Generation finally step off the stage with the dignity of the Cavalry that did the job they were born to do and then passes the reins to the Next Generation.

  338. 338.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    my god…. my god…

    Annie Karni@anniekarni· 21m
    Another RNC speaker — Covington Catholic high school student Nick Sandmann.

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    NotMax

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Do sometimes get a hint of impression that if you were forced to choose between clowns and Broadway musicals that you’d gravitate to the former without blinking an eye.

    ;)

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    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

    @Omnes Omnibus: I can understand that.  The message of the song was spot-on, but he couldn’t sing that song, it’s got a VERY large range.

    Edit: a large range at least.  I was thinking of Freddy Mercury who had a range of singing that was completely unfair.

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    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Porter and Stills might have worked better live on stage where the two could have interacted and played off one another.

    Probably. It was really weird seeing the convention in this online format, but of course the right thing to do because of the pandemic. I wonder how Trump’s WH/Rose Garden little convention will go down?

  343. 343.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @NotMax: I would have to put some serious thought into it.  I can tolerate the movies that have Leslie Caron and I really liked Hedwig (which managed to see at its last performance at the Jane Street Theater).  But the clowns would hopefully kill me quickly.

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    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    CNN recently settled with Sandmann for $275 million fucking dollars.

    Apparanetly, according to Wiki, journalists reviewed hours of video of the 2019 Indigeous People’s March, and found the account of events consistent with the Covington Catholic students’ account. It was the Black Israelites shouting racist slurs, first at the Native American Activists, and later the students

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    mrmoshpotato

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m sure Nick has binders full of women detailed policies to the help the un(der)employed, school teachers/staff/students, frontline workers, those worrying about voting, etc.

    Haha, I kid!

    The four days of whining will be able to be heard on the Gulf coast!

    ETA – Is Rudy scheduled to shout his head off again?

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    Kmax

    Can’t stand TV babblebots.  Been coming here for years rather than watch debates or speaches.

    This time I decided to try the DNC livestream.  It worked well.  Good production values.   Good pace.  Will use it for the rest of the convention.

    Agreed with most comments about speakers. Am I the only one who was impressed with Megan Rapinoe?

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    Just One More Canuck

    @guachi: a petty, petty little man, that’s who.

    Believe it or not, Donnie, the PM of Canada has better things to do than make programming decisions for the CBC. And it happened in 2014, when Stephen Harper was in office

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