Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

“woke” is the new caravan.

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

I swear, each month of 2025 will have its own history degree.

If rights aren’t universal, they are privilege, not rights.

They want us to be overwhelmed and exhausted. Focus. Resist. Oppose.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

The revolution will be supervised.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

I really should read my own blog.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires Republicans to act in good faith.

Hey Washington Post, “Democracy Dies in Darkness” was supposed to be a warning, not a mission statement.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

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Well, considering the alternative…


Insult to injury, from the media to the Squatter-in-Chief:


The gaffes, lies, and general chaos just aren’t ‘news’ any more:

… While the Democrats decided months ago that their national convention would be a virtual event, it wasn’t until July 23—when Trump decided that the COVID-19 pandemic would make his plans for a gathering in Jacksonville unworkable—that the GOP followed suit. The result was that the Democrats provided the networks with a detailed schedule of speakers and videos while the Republicans’ convention schedule is still a moving target.

Executives at multiple networks told The Daily Beast privately that they were still almost completely in the dark about basic details of next week’s RNC, including its format and its roster of speakers…

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  3. 3.

    Amir Khalid

    Blago left the governorship of Illinois in disgrace. Does he still get to be called Governor?

  4. 4.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I’m guessing the My Pillow guy will introduce trump. I made it through half of this, he’s definitely trying to follow the trump model, first with media, tomorrow…

    Justin Baragona @justinbaragona

    Anderson Cooper tears into the MyPillow guy for pushing unproven coronavirus therapeutic as a “miracle” cure: “You have no medical background. You are not a scientist… You are now on the board and going to make money… How are you different than a snake oil salesman?”

  5. 5.

    Patricia Kayden

    With everything else going on, not sure how many people are tracking the fiscal cliff. But if I'm reading daily Treasury stmt right, so far this month the feds have paid out $29.5 b in UI, compared with $60.8 b for the same period last month. Huge hit to unemployed in progress— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) August 18, 2020

  7. 7.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Baud: I made the mistake of watching the Republican National Convention in 2016 in its entirety because I was stupid enough to believe that Americans would never elect someone as odious as Trump. Hard pass this year.

  12. 12.

    Ken

    Kaili Joy Gray: It looks very much like they are completely unprepared for a virtual convention.

    Is anyone surprised?  I’m still half-expecting that Jared is planning to use a free Zoom account.

  13. 13.

    SiubhanDuinne

    In that Jonathan Swan tweet showing the speaker lineup, honest to dog Blago is the only one of them I’ve ever heard of. Am I just that out of it, or are these D-list celebrities?

  14. 14.

    Kropacetic

    @Ken: Kaili Joy Gray: It looks very much like they are completely unprepared for a virtual convention.

    Give them a break.  They’ve only had six months to prepare.  Less if you factor in abject denial.

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I watched to the end. It was just more of the same. My Pillow guy had no response to getting pantsed on TV, beyond repeating his bullshit claims and trying to shout Anderson Cooper down.

  23. 23.

    RepubAnon

    Oh, the Republicans have a complete schedule for their convention. They’re just having trouble converting it from Cyrillic…

    (/snark)

  25. 25.

    lamh36

    @lamh36:

    “On Tuesday night, Jacquelyn Brittany, a 31-year-old African American security guard, will do something else for Biden — be the first person to put his name into nomination for president.” 

  26. 26.

    Amir Khalid

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Ist it true the Republican convention will kick off with Ted Nugent playing Wang Dang Poontang? Because, y’know, that would be sooo fitting.

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    The Democrats spent three months preparing for a virtual convention, lining up all of the speakers, making sure everyone had the right tech gear well ahead of time, writing and rehearsing speeches and infrastructure. The Republicans, thanks mostly to Trump, will have something like three weeks to do the same.
    Im tempted to tune in just to see all of the tech and logistical trainwrecks, which will dovetail well with the rhetorical trainwrecks that define the GOP.

  29. 29.

    Ken

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Last I heard, Miss Desmond Trump was still dithering about where he was going to make his big entrance speech. I wonder if it’s gotten worse now that he’s speaking each night?

    And I’m sure after his criticism of Michelle Obama that he’s going to insist all of his speeches be live, which will give both the tech people and his political handlers ulcers.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: Part of the story from your link. :-)

    WILMINGTON, Del. — She was last seen blurting “I love you” to Joe Biden as she escorted him in an elevator to an editorial board meeting at the New York Times last December, part of an exchange that went viral as the Biden campaign cast her adulation as a bigger deal than the news organization’s endorsement, which he lost.

    On Tuesday night, Jacquelyn Brittany, a 31-year-old African American security guard, will do something else for Biden — be the first person to put his name into nomination for president. Her role has not previously been disclosed.

    Jacquelyn — she declined to publicize her last name; Brittany is her middle name — epitomized for the Biden campaign the dynamics of the primaries: Spurned by others, Biden’s hopes rested on Black women and working class voters, who would eventually resurrect his campaign.

    In an interview with The Washington Post, Jacquelyn said she has followed Biden since he became Barack Obama’s running mate. “I just like Joe. I’ve always liked him,” she said.

    She said she finds inspiration in his life story and the tragedies he has endured — the deaths of his first wife and daughter in a December 1972 car accident and of his son to brain cancer in May 2015.

    “He’s been through so much. And he doesn’t show it on the outside. He may feel it on the inside — and I’m that type of person,” she said, adding that her outward cheer masks a difficult life, including stints in foster care as a child.

    Jacquelyn said she had not realized that she was going to be filmed for the episode of the Times’ cable show, The Weekly, which included Biden’s visit to the news organization. But in December, before Biden arrived for his interview, she chatted with an aide and revealed that she was thrilled to be escorting him upstairs.

    “Once he came in, he was just genuinely, genuinely nice to people. We don’t get that from everybody,” Jacquelyn said.

    For most of the elevator ride, Jacquelyn was silent — she does not speak to guests she is escorting unless they first speak to her — but her mind was racing. “I kept thinking to myself, this was a person I want to lead the country,” she said, adding that she was thinking it could be her only chance to talk with him.

    The aide prompted her, suggesting that she say something to the former vice president. Jacquelyn turned to look at Biden, and he smiled at her and said “Hi,” she recalled.

    “That was my time,” she remembered thinking.

    “I love you,” she told him. “I do. You’re like my favorite.” (She told The Post she regretted saying “like” in that sentence.)

    Biden thanked her and asked if she had a camera, and the two posed for a selfie that he took with her phone. As Biden took the photo, she said, she suddenly realized that the exchange had been caught on video.

  33. 33.

    dmsilev

    @Ken: Didn’t they decide to say ‘fuck the Hatch Act’ and will be using the White House lawn? Or is that still ‘under consideration’ and they’re still dithering?

  34. 34.

    Ruckus

    @Ken:

    I’m thinking jarid will tell Zoom that they need 4 hrs a night for 60 million participants and Zoom has to do all that for free.
    I don’t expect it to go well.

  35. 35.

    PAM Dirac

    @Ken:

     

    I’m still half-expecting that Jared is planning to use a free Zoom account.

    And when it shuts down at 45 minutes there will be much shouting that the DOJ needs to investigate this horrible bias against conservatives.

  38. 38.

    Kropacetic

    @dmsilev:  Didn’t they decide to say ‘fuck the Hatch Act’ and will be using the White House lawn? Or is that still ‘under consideration’ and they’re still dithering?

    I’m surprised they aren’t having everyone do their bit in one of Trump’s shithole hotels (at an exorbitant rate).

  39. 39.

    RSA

    @dmsilev:

    Im tempted to tune in just to see all of the tech and logistical trainwrecks, which will dovetail well with the rhetorical trainwrecks that define the GOP.

    I predict that technical glitches will run rampant, due to the hiring of the cheapest fly-by-night companies (alternatively, the most skilled grifters without the necessary expertise) available to put on the event.

    I predict that these problems will be attributed to SABOTAGE by Crooked Online Media, a message conveyed by the President himself.

  41. 41.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @dmsilev:

    Didn’t they decide to say ‘fuck the Hatch Act’

    Unfortunately, the Hatch Act specifically in the language of the bill excepts the President and Vince President.  It does not apply to them.

  42. 42.

    HumboldtBlue

    OK, job interview by Zoom in nine minutes.

    40 minutes ago, “don’t cut your lip shaving, don’t cut your lip shaving, DON’T CUT YOUR LIP SHAVING! FFFFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKK”

  45. 45.

    catclub

    @WaterGirl: “Once he came in, he was just genuinely, genuinely nice to people. We don’t get that from everybody,” Jacquelyn said.

     

    Now there is a wonderful understatement.

  47. 47.

    Kropacetic

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: That’s how I like to catch the attention of my Jewish friends; “Yo, Semite!”

    I find myself increasingly estranged from my friends these days. I blame the pandemic.

  49. 49.

    Falling Diphthong

    @dmsilev:

    The tech and logistical trainwrecks, which will dovetail well with the rhetorical trainwrecks that define the GOP.

    I think this could be how it will pan out. A metaphor for both parties’ response to the realities of a pandemic.

  50. 50.

    TS (the original)

    @Patricia Kayden:

    I’m also waiting for an investigation into the markets. Why are they reaching all time highs when there are so many unemployed & so many businesses almost shut down (eg airlines)?  What is the fed doing to feed this frenzy of riches for the rich? Is it all going to stop on the day Biden is elected? Is that the date the fed stop printing money to feed the markets?

    The only reason I miss the nyt is because I see little of Paul Krugman’s economic analysis

  55. 55.

    Betty Cracker

    @TS (the original): I recently glommed onto someone’s digital NYT account, and I’ve been reading the hell out of it. I feel kinda guilty to admit I’d missed it, but Krugman and Goldberg exhausted my free clicks so fast! And believe it or not, Frank Bruni had an absolutely stellar column about Michelle Obama’s speech today.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    @Kropacetic:

    Ooh, I wonder what it would be like to get an “intimate address by Governor Blagojevic.”

    “Hey, honey, if you come back to my room for a nightcap, I can make you a Senator.”

  60. 60.

    Kropacetic

    @SFAW: I tried for a few minutes to find a serviceable version of that joke before dropping it.  I commend you.

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    @Ruckus:

    I’m thinking jarid will tell Zoom that they need 4 hrs a night for 60 million participants and Zoom has to do all that for free.

    “And if you don’t, you’ll be responsible for the UAE/Israel ‘agreement’ falling apart!”

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    @Kropacetic:

    I tried for a few minutes to find a serviceable version of that joke before dropping it.

    Either you’re off your game, or you have higher standards than I.

  63. 63.

    Suzanne

    So we moved into our new house, the permanent one, this weekend, and of course it is hard to find stuff as it is all in boxes. So I am wearing a bra with an underwire. FUUUUUUUUCCCCCK why did I do this for so long. This is hell. I don’t wanna go back to an office.

    Never fear, I ordered some more soft ones.

  65. 65.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Kropacetic: Interestingly enough, I think the legal theory is that Trump is exempt from the Hatch Act as president. But that no one else is.

    So if anyone else participates in that, or there’s other speeches there by other people, the Democrats in Congress should literally ask for immediate suspensions and punishments. Biden should talk about how Trump regularly breaks the law whenever he feels like it and when he thinks he can get away with it, and note this, his obstruction, his past lawsuits for racial discrimination, etc.

    Dems can make it work for us.

  66. 66.

    Ken

    @Frankensteinbeck: Unfortunately, the Hatch Act specifically in the language of the bill excepts the President and Vince President.

    Does it allow for them to campaign for other candidates?

    Though I expect that if Trump told Lindsey Graham (to pick one) that he was going to put in an endorsement, Graham would desperately try to find some way to decline the honor.

  68. 68.

    MisterForkbeard

    @HumboldtBlue: Wear a mask to your interview, man. Tell them you’re just being exceedingly careful due to personal reasons you can’t explain but that it won’t extend into your work there. :)

    Alternately, use it as a humanizing story about how happy you are to have the interview. Actually, yeah. Do that.

  69. 69.

    Kropacetic

    @MisterForkbeard: Interestingly enough, I think the legal theory is that Trump is exempt from the Hatch Act as president.

    If the President does it, that means that it is not illegal.

    So if anyone else participates in that, or there’s other speeches there by other people, the Democrats in Congress should literally ask for immediate suspensions and punishments.

    So are we talking about consequences for campaign workers asked to work on government property? Or do you expect government employees to participate in Trump’s half-assed* shit show?

    *The most ass he’s ever put into anything that isn’t a golf cart.

  70. 70.

    MisterForkbeard

    @bluehill: Meghan has repeatedly talked about how good and decent Biden was to her.

    She’s also a Trump-voter who knows she can’t cross him without losing her job. You know, someone who really values her “principles” of money making and media access.

  73. 73.

    MisterForkbeard

    Right. It depended on shame and/or people willing to enforce it, and unfortunately Trump and Republicans have none of either.

  74. 74.

    trollhattan

    @Suzanne:

    Bet you’re also glad to be rid of Arizona. Article I read said that Phoenix this week will hit and then surpass 44 days over 110 degrees in 2020. The previous annual record: 33 days. I am bitter about just one.

    It’s not only sea level rise that will cause abandonment of cities.

  75. 75.

    piratedan

    @SFAW: no way, these assholes will only use the Free Zoom trial run and be limited to 40 minutes for their meeting….

  77. 77.

    TS (the original)

    @Betty Cracker:

    I gave them my exit speech in 2016 – being Krugman is the only person worth reading in your paper. There are times I think to do the same at the Washington Post – like now when they are searching for disaffected democrats to fill the front page – but I scored a super cheap subscription years ago – it was supposed to be an intro rate (I thought) but it gets renewed every year.

    I tend to waste my nyt free reads by clinking on a news link before checking if it is the nyt.

  78. 78.

    Kay

    Betsy DeVos lied at her confirmation hearing:

    At her confirmation hearing, U.S. Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) — the top Democrat on the Senate committee charged with vetting the nomination — asked DeVos whether she believed “it’s appropriate for you and your family to continue to use its wealth to pressure state, local and federal candidates to support your agenda.”
    DeVos pledged: “If I am confirmed, as you know, I will not be involved and engaged in political contributions, and my husband will not be, either.”
    But her husband, Richard “Dick” DeVos Jr., has continued to contribute to candidates while his wife is education secretary, federal campaign finance records show.
    This election cycle, Dick DeVos contributed $400,000 in September to the pro-Trump super PAC America First Action Inc., which can accept unlimited contributions.
    The former 2006 Michigan GOP gubernatorial nominee also donated $100,000 to the Republican National Committee in October and $5,600 to Trump’s reelection campaign that month. He contributed $10,000 in October to the Republican Party of Kentucky, and gave $5,000 on March 30 of this year to the Great America Committee, a political action committee launched by Vice President Mike Pence.

    Congress should start enforcing perjury. The Trump people use the lack of accountability as permission to lie their asses off.

    These people have no self control, character or internal monitor. They need to be policed constantly. Enforce the rules. Law n Order.

  79. 79.

    catclub

    @TS (the original): Why are they reaching all time highs when there are so many unemployed & so many businesses almost shut down.

     

    I feel no need to investigate.  Investors have decided that even if they don;t know exactly when the covid reaction will end.  It WILL end.

    So might as well have your money already in the stocks that will benefit, or the giants that win no matter what [ the FAANG stocks]

     

    I would not be surprised at a pullback any time, but as long as everyone is expecting that, it might not happen. The market can make the maximum number of people look foolish for a long time.

  80. 80.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @JPL:

    Does it really matter? Kellyanne is still working for him.  The law is unenforceable.

    Says who?

  85. 85.

    Kay

    When ordinary people lie under oath in a government forum or proceeding, they’re given between 30 and 90 days, suspended, as a lever to get them to quit lying. If they do it again judges here will send them to jail for at least a Friday thru Sunday stretch. Why doesn’t that apply to wealthy people?

    I want laws and rules enforced. I insist that these people stop getting special, privileged treatment.

  86. 86.

    Suzanne

    @trollhattan: Oh shit. I am really sad about having to move away from basically my entire life during the pandemic and basically having to bug out, not get to say goodbye to so many people and places we love. But FUCK if ever there was a year to leave Phoenix, this is it. What a shitshow. They are obliterating heat records, and fucking up Covid really bad, and it’s really nice to be here in my new living room with the window open and my ex-husband 2000 miles away.

  87. 87.

    Jay

    @SFAW:

    how you make a ReThug Senator, ( the drink),

    one part Russian Vodka,

    one part Dark Money,

    one part Bananna Republic,

    one part MAGA,

    stir until thoroughly corrupted,

    Try the veal, tip your waitress, I’ll be here all week.

  88. 88.

    divF

    @TS (the original): First time I saw this was from a commentor in Brad DeLong’s blog in 2006:

    Why on earth would anybody looking at the US economy be as bullish as you would guess they are by looking at long term interest rates? For whatever reason, I don’t see that it can be because people are irrationally optimistic in the same way.
    To answer this question let’s paraphrase Keynes: Speculative behavior is not about trying to guess the future value of an investment, rather it is to try to guess what the average opinion is going to be in 6 months or what the average opinion about the average opinion is going to be in 6 months, etc.
    As long as the Coyote does not look down, it will not notice that it has run off a cliff and will not fall. Got to love how Economics sometimes resembles cartoon physics rather than real physics.

  89. 89.

    Mike in NC

    The RNC shitshow should be billed as “Fat Bastard Unfiltered” since he’ll be ranting and droning on for three hours each night. Repeating himself, contradicting himself, spewing horseshit without stopping to take a break, etc. Hannity will step up as needed to help him drink a glass of water.

  90. 90.

    Suzanne

    @trollhattan: ALSO they are about to start a massive widening project for an eleven-mile stretch of the I-10, and that construction will go on for three and a half YEARS. And it happens to be the stretch that I drove every workday, both to work and back, for over a decade. The project is very much needed but will be an inhumane TWENTY LANES WIDE at one point, including collector-distributor roads.

    The three things that pushed me out of AZ are, in no particular order: heat, driving, and Republicans. This year has been a disaster on all three fronts.

  91. 91.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I hope the Democrats impeach him as soon as a Senate conviction is a possibility. Strip him of the office, and render him unable to hold any position of trust in the future.

    Then, it would be appropriate to call him “Donny-boy “Loser” Trump”.

    @Kropacetic: Um. In some states, if you’re not earning as much as your unemployment check, you can file to get the remainder.

    So if unemployment would pay you $500 a week in benefits, but you’re working and earning $350, in some states, you can file for the $150. Check with your state; please don’t leave money on the table, because a big part of combating a recession is maintaining consumer spending. Remember, every dollar *someone* spends means more cash that can make its way to paychecks.

  92. 92.

    Ken

    @divF: Economics sometimes resembles cartoon physics rather than real physics.

    Terry Pratchett’s version (from Making Money):

    “But, in truth, it had not exactly been gold, or even the promise of gold, but more like the fantasy of gold, the fairy dream that the gold is there, at the end of the rainbow, and will continue to be there forever – provided, naturally, that you don’t go and look. This is known as finance.”

  94. 94.

    geg6

    @Suzanne:

    Oh lord.  Wait until you experience a Pittsburgh rush hour like in the Before Times.  You’re in the South Hills, right?  Oh god.

  96. 96.

    mrmoshpotato

    OH BLAGO!  GO! FUCK! YOURSELF!

    I can’t believe this Senate-seat-selling motherfucker was our Democratic governor!  Jibbers Fucking Christ!

  97. 97.

    TS (the original)

    @Baud:

    Anticipating a Biden win.

    I would have thought the opposite. The GOP, the media will scream deficits the day Biden wins, the fed will stop printing money so trump can blame the corresponding market fall on the democrats.

    Or maybe I best go check what Krugman thinks. While I’m also a Keynes fan, Krugman’s economics is usually spot on while mine has its good & bad moments.

  98. 98.

    Kropacetic

    @TS (the original): I would have thought the opposite. The GOP, the media will scream deficits the day Biden wins, the fed will stop printing money so trump can blame the corresponding market fall on the democrats.

    The financial sector knows what’s good for them, the prosperity of Democratic administrations and resisting Democratic attempts to legitimately constrain their abuses.

  99. 99.

    TS (the original)

    @divF:  Thanks. That sounds right. i studied Keynes so long ago I have obviously forgotten parts thereof. He still comes up with the right answers.

  100. 100.

    TS (the original)

    @Mike in NC:   And this is why the networks only want to show 1 hour – so they can find the sanest part to broadcast. If they showed any more the reality of trump might even have a few deplorables wondering what they are voting for.

  101. 101.

    mrmoshpotato

    McCain, McCain, Mittens, Johnson.

    And dude believes black people’s lives matter?  Where’d I put my LMAO couch?

  103. 103.

    mrmoshpotato

    Network execs tell DNC officials they won’t air their event in full… because they’d also have to air two hours of Trump’s convention, too.

    Just borrow 2 hours of CNN’s Empty Trump Podium Show!  You know the bastards still have all of the footage – and definitely more than 2 hours!

  104. 104.

    Jay

    @TS (the original):

    Wall Street has not had a real relationship with Main Street and the Economy, in decades.

    In the days of yore, Money would chase stocks on the basis of the Company, using metrics like growth, profitability, products, dividends, etc based on short term or long term goals.

    In the ‘80s, money started to chase Company stock based on how profitable it would be to liquidate a Company and loot it’s assets, how profitable it would be to offshore the jobs, or how profitable it would be to assemble a monopoly.

    In the 90’s, money started bubble chasing “underpants gnomes” business models, aided by the tech that freed money from being less mobile.

    In the ‘aughts, it’s looting and rent seeking all the time often by algorithms chasing penny increments and no human involvement.

  106. 106.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Ken:

    Is anyone surprised?  I’m still half-expecting that Jared is planning to use a free Zoom account. 

    Or have their mob enforcer (Bill Barr) threaten Zoom for a refund.

  107. 107.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @TS (the original): One thing to keep in mind is, the stock market is a strange entity. For example, Amazon stock has risen a lot; talk about a business model that’s great for customers fearing a pandemic! (Yes, I know, just like Wal-Mart had a great business model for tough times, by squeezing every nickel out of wholesalers that they could, leading to widespread offshoring, which makes for more frequent, and more difficult, hard times.)

    Theaters and movie studios are taking it up the proverbial tailpipe (did you know a potato up the tailpipe will prevent a car’s normal operation?) but Netflix and Hulu are probably raking in the green.

    And, for example, if it’s known that GM will weather the pandemic, and can easily perform temporary layoffs – note, I’m not saying both those are *true*; I’m building a hypothetical case – then their stock price wouldn’t go down much. Sure, a few quarters of substandard sales due to the pandemic, but they can lay off workers and idle a lot of production, and spin back up as demand returns. Their stock price might not fall – or might not fall much.

    The overall economy has taken a brutal hit; we’ve lost 8% of normal spending the past quarter. (for anyone who’s confused, that’s what a -32% annualized rate means – if it happened 4 in a row, it’d be -32, but it only happened once so far.) That’s roughly the same as no one spending any money for an entire month. And *that* was with the higher unemployment payout (though to be fair, there wasn’t nearly as much to spend it *on*, either).

    When, where, and how, that will show up in the stock market is something we’ll learn later. Some stocks might be coasting on fumes, reputation, and hope.

  108. 108.

    Miss Bianca

    @Amir Khalid: In the interest of… *ahem*…*complete* truth, this ex-Detroiter is forced to correct you: it’s “Wang Dang Sweet Poontang”.

    Aaannddd….I can’t believe I just typed that.

    Even more to the point, I can’t believe that song ever got played on the radio when I was growing up.

  112. 112.

    Marcopolo

    @Kropacetic:    This sounds like the Mom & Dad who are worried for their kid who wears a MAGA hat.  They relate that the kid is constantly mocked, insulted, spit upon, and occasionally subject to physical assaults.  And they add, “We can only imagine how much worse it will be once the kid goes outside of the house after the pandemic is over.”

  113. 113.

    Roger Moore

    @Ken:

    Last I heard, Miss Desmond Trump was still dithering about where he was going to make his big entrance speech.

    I am big. It’s the Conventions that got small.

  116. 116.

    lowtechcyclist

    The RNC still doesn’t even have a schedule for its conference on its website.

    It looks very much like they are completely unprepared for a virtual convention.

    Damned if I know who would trust the GOP to organize a two-car funeral at this point.

    And that’s even with the tremendous surplus of GOP-caused funerals in need of organization.

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