Nothing about ramp walks, nothing about gorgeous boaters
— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24) August 20, 2020
.@HillaryClinton with quite a line: “Don't forget, Joe and Kamala can win by 3 million votes and still lose — take it from me.”
— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) August 20, 2020
It’s crazy that the Dem message is “be decent, let’s kill each other less, save the planet, people should have rights” and half the country is like fuck you nah.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) August 20, 2020
Patricia Kayden
Wonder Woman!!
Yutsano
“For Joe and Kamala, and candidates up and down the ticket.”
And there it is folks.
Baud
Close up of the gavel.
Alison Rose
KAMALA TIME!!
dmsilev
Thanks, Obama.
(repeated, but worth repeating…)
patrick II
I can certainly see why I voted for Obama twice. A very frank, earnest, and inspirational speech.
Omnes Omnibus
Momala?
ETA: By the way, I LOVE her smile.
Steeplejack
Bumped up from downstairs.
Someone is getting triggered:
Yutsano
KAMALA TIME!!!
Alison Rose
CRYING AGAIN
debbie
Someone fat and orange won’t be sleeping well tonight.
dmsilev
@Steeplejack: He’s disappointed because Obama didn’t endorse him?
Alison Rose
@Steeplejack: Boy, his lumbering, dipshit ass has a lot of nerve calling someone else slow.
Anya
I never wanna hear anyone dissing Tom Perez.
Baud
Small echo.
Anya
They did these videos in such a short time. I am so impressed.
Barbara
@Omnes Omnibus: Yes, Mommala — an endearing name.
SectionH
@Omnes Omnibus: She has stepkids.
Ken
@Steeplejack: All caps in the original? Not a good sign. Next step will be multiple exclamation points.
And did anyone reply “BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE STANDARDS AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT FORMER PRESIDENTS DO NOT ENDORSE UNTIL THE VOTERS HAVE THEIR SAY”?
dmsilev
@Anya: Not nearly enough boats, and no, the Rhode Island Calamari doesn’t count.
Baud
Yay! Shout out to Hillary!
cain
This is such great pageantry in that video – it’s fantastic.
Any MF who are on the fence.. and still can’t decide – are fucked up.
MomSense
Zoom in
TomatoQueen
oooo name check for my beloved Judge Motley
Sister Golden Bear
Glad to see her call out that Black women were effectively excluded from the 19th Amendment.
Alison Rose
YES DIANE NASH SHOUT OUT. She is a fucking hardcore bad-ass and she deserves a million times more recognition than she gets.
dmsilev
@Omnes Omnibus:
She and her stepkids agreed they should call her that.
Sister Golden Bear
Go Bears!
Anya
@Steeplejack: Just comparing this lunatic’s uppercase ranting to Obama’s dignity, grace and eloquence makes me loss it. America thought this insane clown was fit to replace Obama.
cain
It’s amazing how much Kamala’s story was similar to Barack’s.
To hear a VP candidate use the word ‘Chithi’ meaning Aunt in India.. fuck me.
TS (the original)
@Alison Rose:
Like every other thing,, he doesn’t understand. You don’t endorse “your” favorite, you endorse the nominee chosen by the people.
President Obama was never going to be in the situation of endorsing someone who was not his No 1 choice.
Martin
@SectionH: Her stepdaughter that spoke was really cute. Maya at least has experience working in politics so the camera speech is at least a bit familiar to her, but I’m always impressed with how well these newcomers do. It’s hard to pull off and they did amazingly well.
Yutsano
Family. This is an amazing speech so far.
Steeplejack
“Kamala Harris for the people.” Okay, that got me.
rikyrah
I am ????
cain
LOL – I would sworn that whole birth things was for the birthers.
Alison Rose
Okay, I might maybe possibly just did a fist pump when she stated her acceptance of the nomination.
Suzanne
I love Kamala.
Anya
@dmsilev: Why are you dissing the legendary Rhode Island Calamari? This aggression will not stand, man!!!
Benw
Kamala is the woman
HumboldtBlue
@cain:
Good point.
Anya
Both Obama and Harris are so good at speaking without a live audience. They are both connecting to the audience as if we were there.
dmsilev
Now, the ritualistic sledgehammering of the incumbent.
Dan B
Uh oh, onions on our terrace.
“I accept your nomination for Vice President of the United States.” opened the water works.
Omnes Omnibus
Structural racism.
cain
You have no idea how much it blows my mind to hear a major candidate use the word ‘Chithi’ – meaning Aunt. To hear that word.. wow.. it is a very south indian word.
Elizabelle
@Martin: I thought her stepdaughter had a little bit of Zoey Deschanel going on.
rikyrah
Shallow…She looks fabulous
Omnes Omnibus
No vaccine for racism.
Elizabelle
@dmsilev: If only it could be actual, rather than virtual.
dmsilev
@Anya: It’s probably the one thing that people will remember from this Convention.
So vote, vote like your breaded and fried squid depends on it.
MomSense
@rikyrah:
Me too.
Elizabelle
@rikyrah: I have never seen Kamala not looking fabulous. She has that gift.
Like Audrey Hepburn. And rare others.
dmsilev
@Elizabelle: Pay-per-view. Instant deficit-reducer.
Suzanne
@rikyrah: She really does. I think she always does.
Winston
Kamala. There is no vaccine for racism. None of us are free until all of us are free.
Benw
@rikyrah: she’s a freaking rock star
Adam L Silverman
@Patricia Kayden:
TaMara (HFG)
Our lives are completely different, but we are close in age, and somehow I relate to Kamala more than I have any other woman who ran for office this year. I can’t explain it better than that, but it’s like I know her on some level.
Can’t wait to call her Madam Vice-President and then with luck in 4 or 8, Madame President.
Omnes Omnibus
Attorneys general. Oh, thank god. I can keep supporting her.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
attorneys general…
…if she didn’t already have my vote…
Mike in NC
@Anya: I lived in RI for three years and really enjoyed it. Don’t recall the calamari specifically, but fondly recall scuba diving for lobsters on Friday nights. Also loved Del’s lemonade and Portuguese sausage and fresh local mussels and stuffed quahogs.
rikyrah
@Dan B:
?????
Barbara
@rikyrah: She always looks fabulous IMO.
Yutsano
Oh snap talking about Beau.
Adam L Silverman
@Patricia Kayden: Simple answers to simple questions!
Baud
I’m pretty sure hydroxychloroquine works.
Feathers
@cain: In the cooking video Kamala did with Mindy Kaling, I laughed hard when Mindy was asking her what to call her because her mother wasn’t going to approve of just her first name. Harris’s reply, “Just don’t call me Auntie.” I knew Kamala was really good when Mindy’s father showed up and Kamala immediately called him “Uncle” and rushed over to hug him. You could see him well up.
The whole video is worth watching, if you are looking for something to bring you down gently from this speech. Link
Anya
She really loved Beau. You can see it in her face when she mentions him.
Mike in NC
@rikyrah: Wife just said she never realized how pretty she is. I sure noticed it from the very beginning.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Sort of Yiddish given her husband and stepdaughters are Jewish and sort of a portmanteau of her name and mom.
Martin
@Baud: Oleander definitely works, if you eat enough of it.
HumboldtBlue
@dmsilev:
An absolute waste of flour and oil.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Srsly. Bullet dodged.
rikyrah
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Jacquelyn Asbie endorsed Biden like she’s been doing it at every convention since she turned 18
Anya
I hope the members of the low quality VP selection who dissed this awesome woman are ashamed of themselves. That committee was the only bad step the Biden campaign made.
Martin
You guys, she’s the one I was telling you about all those years ago. See what I mean?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: You set a high bar.
cain
Every Indian understood that whole thing – that was probably the moment everyone understood that she was Indian just like us.
Interestingly enough, she’s the combination of me and my gf. It’s like we have a common person we can share.
SectionH
@Martin: I agree, but that’s been so true through the whole convention, hasn’t it? I mean, so many “newcomers” (I like that word choice a lot) have been great speakers.
Sort of the Republican opposite, y’know, ” The secret to success is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”
I love Kamala.
PsiFighter37
Gawd, Obama’s speech was awesome.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: @Alison Rose: Rudy is on it!
dmsilev
Some traditions are eternal. Even going virtual and partially pre-recorded, conventions never stay on schedule.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Hey, my mom has been known as Momnibus on this blog for a while.
Anya
@rikyrah: You and me both, Symone!
PsiFighter37
@Anya: To be fair, they came to the right outcome…so it couldn’t have been all bad. I personally had no issue with how things turned out.
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: Someone should get him a sandwich though. He’s approaching Michael Chertoff levels of Skeletorization.
zhena gogolia
She’s a very good speaker.
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: It fucking matters.
Baud
Yay. Nicely done.
Kilgore Trout
@Omnes Omnibus: lol. Everytime I hear someone correctly pluralize that I flash on my mom. That is a pet peeve of hers.
Barbara
@Anya: My understanding is that Biden was pissed when he heard.
rikyrah
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman: Rudy is, after all, an expert on mental degradation.
Omnes Omnibus
The only flaw in this speech was that she had to follow the Master.
cain
She’s much better in this than during her campaign.
Beyonce in the background?
SiubhanDuinne
Well.
That was quite an evening.
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: No, a bunch of white Christians, most of them rural, some suburban, decided that the rest of us deserved to be punished with him for the temerity of electing Obama president twice.
Elizabelle
I love them. Positivity. No. More. Trump. Shit.
Another Scott
Great speech by Kamala. Laying it out there plainly and clearly.
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
Joe!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: Oh, FUCK OFF RUDY.
Anya
@Mike in NC: college years in Providence and I don’t remember it being a thing.
TaMara (HFG)
@Adam L Silverman: Oh, Rudy, no one cares what you have to say you crazy old man.
rikyrah
Fight for the American Experiment ??
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I want balloons, dammit!
@Adam L Silverman:
Remember when he took Olivia Nuzzi to I forget which fancy Manhattan hotel bar for bloodies and he stumbled out of the men’s room with his fly open?
Elizabelle
The social distancing. So responsible, but breaks my heart.
We have to get past this.
Barbara
@rikyrah: Rather has NFLTG.
Elizabelle
I am liking Kamala’s soundtracks.
Moar of this.
lamh36
Well done. Kamala!!!!
Oh and leaving on Mary J Blige!!!
YessSS
Suzanne
Well, as part of new house purchases today, I bought a cheap wall sconce, a bamboo roller shade, and a Biden yard sign, in union blue.
Anya
@Adam L Silverman: Like, seriously, isn’t he the crazy dude who yells on tv. How is he gonna talk about someone’s mental fitness?
guachi
Don’t forget, if you had a regular donation during the primary to Joe Biden you should start up a new donation for the general election.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: She did well.
Omnes Omnibus
Maybe tomorrow.
Baud
Jennifer can sing.
SectionH
@Mike in NC: Esp. make sure your wife sees her story about the first time she met her in-laws.
Alison Rose
I find it interesting that, as far as I heard, Pence barely got mentioned tonight, at least by name. Which makes me laugh so hard, because like………LOL dude you’re a pointless appendage of the Orange Behemoth you chose to tie yourself to.
TS (the original)
So Bri clues in on President Obama – ignoring Kamala – then Rachel takes him right back there. Talking non stop about Kamala.
MSNBC needs to get rid of him in this election coverage.
Suzanne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I remember when he buttdialed a reporter and said a whole lot of intemperate things. He ain’t too bright.
Patricia Kayden
@Adam L Silverman: ? That’s hilarious.
Mike in DC
Sen. Harris was pitch perfect.
zhena gogolia
Where is this happening?
cain
@Baud:
I noticed the same thing.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Adam L Silverman:
LOL, that’s funny! I remember the other parody done by Callen that showed how the iconic first Superman issue cover happened
Patricia Kayden
Sing Jennifer!!
Kent
CNN commentary is all over Obama’s speech. About how searing and on fire it was about the emergency we face. About how he broke norms by going so hard after a sitting president. But they appove.
Leto
@Elizabelle: The VP soundtrack is fucking lit! Yes!
Amir Khalid
@Adam L Silverman:
Even within Trump’s inner circle, is anyone really still listening to Rudy Nosferatu?
cain
@Baud:
I noticed the same thing.
Jennifer sings like Whitney Houston does – effortlessly.. hitting notes like nothing.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: And mine the Mominator.
Leto
@TS (the original): Joy Reid almost in tears going over Harris’ speech.
Martin
@SectionH: Yeah, lots of new talent, lots of young talent. Obama and Kamala were very forward looking, very empowering of the next generations.
I’ve been saying for a while that Democrats need to energize young voters. They are suffering so much right now, and they need to be given the reins wherever they can – at the very least a voice.
I don’t always agree with AOC but Dems need to keep pushing her forward, because that’s what the Democratic party needs to look like, and she speaks to issues that the Democratic party needs to address. You don’t have to endorse her solutions, but you need to listen to the problems she says need to be focused on.
It’s too easy to be cynical about young people and their turnout, but you kind of get what you invite. You exclude them from politics and you ignore their issues, then no, they’re not going to come out and vote.
Steeplejack
I think all conventions should be virtual from here on out. No speeches broken up every two sentences for a cheer, no pundits breaking in with pointless “analysis.” And reining in the “great state of [wherever] says blah, blah, blah” bullshit.
HumboldtBlue
@Mike in NC:
So did Emhoff’s mom
@Martin:
That’s where I am.
Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev:
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Providing chicken soup and asking why you don’t find a nice sasquatchette and settle down?
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Eljai
@TS (the original): The only reason I didn’t click off when Brian came on was because Rachel, Joy and Nicole were still on air. He’s just so unnecessary right now.
Leto
@Adam L Silverman: I’m just going to say you’re my long lost brother because we have the same mom… :P
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah:
The outfit was perfect, hair was perfect, she’s the best speaker all evening except for Obama. And I say that recognizing that Warren was damn good.
Luciamia
@Adam L Silverman: though on the night of Trumps acceptance speech, there’ll be no doubt.
Patricia Kayden
@Adam L Silverman: She’s still so beautiful.
Adam L Silverman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: @TaMara (HFG):
Anya
@PsiFighter37: I didn’t appreciate all the leaks and attacking the women they were vetting. I am in the opinion that Joe went with what he wanted when they showed him the list.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Leto: pretty sure Joy and Rachel had tears in their eyes after Michelle O spoke
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He’s reached that point where he forgets to zip up when appropriate and zip down when needed.
Anya
You guys, I am feeling like 2008.
West of the Cascades
@HumboldtBlue: that is the funniest thing I have seen this week.
Kristine
@Adam L Silverman: Still scrabbling for payback for “A noun, a verb, and 9-11.”
Baud
@Anya:
You don’t look a day over 1999.
Elizabelle
@Anya: Please, please, please.
Adam L Silverman
@Suzanne: Now all you need to do is purchase the new house to put them in.//
TS (the original)
@Leto:
Yep, she is the nominee, she deserved to be No 1 in the pundit comments. I loved President Obama’s speech – but the night belonged to Kamala & Obama himself acknowledged that in not speaking last.
Steeplejack
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: A gentleman as always, but, damn, he left her a tough gig.
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: He’s nuts.
Yutsano
@Adam L Silverman: BTW his video re: Obama ripping Drumpf is already done.
Leto
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I DVR’d that, so once she was done I stopped it. But I def believe it. Just going to say, it’s no fair having two phenomenal speakers in one family. That’s how I know there’s no God: SHARE THE LOVE! :P
Jeffro
Nicolle Wallace is, um…ANIMATED!!
the whole panel is lit. up.
Patricia Kayden
@Adam L Silverman: President Obama, ever the thoughtful gentleman.
SiubhanDuinne
@TS (the original):
I want MSNBC to create a program for the Terrific Trio. Rachel, Joy, and Nicolle have wonderful chemistry. They could all keep their regular solo daily slots and maybe do a once a week gig together. I don’t want this magic to go away, and I don’t want no damn Brian Williams trying to be all avuncular with the girls.
Anya
@Martin: I agree that AOC is very effective. She already has the platform and I don’t think Dem establishment (for lack of a better word) actually stands in her way.
I am choosing not to say anything about AOC because I am still super mad at her for not even congratulating Kamala Harris. I’m still team AOC but this made me lose a lot of respect for her.
Patricia Kayden
@Steeplejack: Here Trump goes again with his ridiculous lies. Obviously Biden is a bigger man that Trump will ever be since he can reconcile with an opponent.
Leto
@Steeplejack: Repeating from the last thread:
“Excuse me sir, this is a Wendy’s drive through…”
Adam L Silverman
@Patricia Kayden: Glad you liked it. This one is funny too:
Mary G
I usually multitask and listen while doing projects or reading tweets or comments through these things. I was riveted and did nothing but watch and listen from Liz Warren onward.
Another Scott
@Anya: I’m thinking a reverse 1980, myself.
By any normal measure, the GOP would be looking at losing all 50 states.
We need to crush them at the ballot box. It’s the best way to be sure…
Cheers,
Scott.
Adam L Silverman
@Amir Khalid: The President and that’s probably it.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: EWWWWWW!
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Williams, a man who has put in decades of work to rise to mediocrity.
Leto
@SiubhanDuinne: Agreed; those three always have cogent points, I’m interested in what they have to say. Williams needs to be on the 3am shift every sixth Tuesday of the month.
Anya
@Another Scott: I hope so. I will do everything I can for that goal.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Something like that.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Who’s gonna have to yawn through his self-pitying rant at 3 am? Lindsey? Robert Kraft? I bet he’s already turned his phone off. and shouldn’t Th Beast be arranging his brother’s funeral or something?
Joy Reid’s father was a Reaganite. I would not have guessed. and while I’m doing TV commentary, I think I can see Brian Williams’ growing realization of his increasing irrelevance
Omnes Omnibus
@Anya: Given the lack of leaks from Biden’s campaign, I have a suspicion that Rendell and Dodd went sent out to draw fire. They said some minor shit, and everyone reared up on their hind legs to defend Harris. When she got the gig, everyone said “damn right.” Any objections to her would have made people look like old geezers. I think it was a smart play.
Leto
@NotMax: It makes me think I didn’t apply my mediocrity properly.
dmsilev
@Steeplejack: Does he own a mirror?
Kay
@Adam L Silverman:
Weird and dumb. No one thinks Biden is crazy. They should have stuck with “old”, but I guess there’s nowhere really to go with that after “Joe Biden is old”, which of course everyone knows.
MisterForkbeard
@Steeplejack: Heh. What’s sad is that… no, she didn’t do either of those things. Quite the opposite.
Donnie yelling lies again. And again. And again.
Adam L Silverman
@Luciamia: Until the President can prove he can ride a bicycle at all, I’m going with: you are correct.
HeleninEire
@SiubhanDuinne: seconded.
Kattails
@Adam L Silverman: Damn you for that pic at this hour, if it shows up in my dreams you’re gonna read all about it in an email.
TS (the original)
@SiubhanDuinne:
I just tuned out as he said his goodbyes to the ladies. I hope they take ratings from these evenings & see the drop when Brian is on alone. He was never anything other than a newsreader – reading items prepared by someone else. No analysis, no empathy, an empty suit.
Adam L Silverman
@Patricia Kayden: She’s a stunning woman.
Marcopolo
Okay, after listening to all the speechifying & then Maddow, Reid, & Wallace I am totally wrung out. I so wish the gd election was tomorrow.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Another Scott: I think we’ll need a silver stake to take care of Rudy.
Bill Arnold
@Adam L Silverman:
Mmm. Man is too far gone to know what others think of him. He needs to make some more stupid, deliciously mockable mistakes.
Anya
@Kent: Fuck the norms. Trump burned the norms.
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: @PsiFighter37: @Anya: My theory is that he let that process with those people take place just to let it take place. Because it was expected because it is how it was always done and because he had to let his oldest friends and colleagues feel like they were still important and contributing. But the reality always was he was going to pick an African American woman and the final blessing of the pick would be Congressman Clyburn’s.
Anya
@Omnes Omnibus: I always listen when you say something so I’ll let go of my grudge.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: Ride a bicycle? The dude can’t walk down a ramp.
Martin
Fake peaches Axe? C’mon.
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
I didn’t know we had the same mom…..
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Adam L Silverman:
I could totally see this happening in-universe. Just like product endorsements for superheroes. That happened with Booster Gold in the 90s, didn’t it? I distinctly remember it coming up with Flash in Justice League
Omnes Omnibus
@Anya: Oh lord, that’s too much responsibility to put on me.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack:
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
Lovely night.
Yutsano
@Adam L Silverman: I think he had Kamala picked as soon as he was the presumptive nominee. Everyone was looking around at all the amazing talent but Joe looked at the person who had been a friend and colleague of his elder son. It was right in front of the media but mindless speculation had to win out. But some day they’ll learn right. RIGHT?
Fair Economist
@Baud:
Oleander is better.
Anya
@Adam L Silverman: You said this when I was freaking out when all Politico was saying Biden will not choose Harris, and you were right. Congressman Clyburn saved us multiple times.
Adam L Silverman
@Kay: The President’s campaign is running an ad accusing VP Biden of being neurologically deficient and mentally incapable. They’ve kludged together slowed down and dubiously edited footage, usually of him trying to work around his stutter, and spliced it against Biden delivering speeches five years ago.
gwangung
I am particularly enamored of this tweet:
https://twitter.com/Kragar_LGF/status/1296288108455972864
Anya
A lot of pundits are proud of their kitchens.
TaMara (HFG)
@Omnes Omnibus: I thought that too – all though my first response was fuck them! – but then I thought about it, and came to that same conclusion.
Adam L Silverman
@Kattails: New inbox, who dis?
piratedan
still toting a small bonfire for Gabby Giffords…. damn what that woman has been thru, also one of her former staffers is on the ballot for the AZ State House here in S. Arizona. I try not to dwell on it too much but I still remember the hue and cry from the GOP about putting her seat up for a special election because she couldn’t serve. due to her “situation”.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman:
Well, him and Joe’s brother Barack.
Adam L Silverman
@Bill Arnold: He’s a mess.
Adam L Silverman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Exactly!
Timurid
@Adam L Silverman:
A: Punch Nazis.
Anya
Have a good night everyone. It’s been such an emotional night.
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Strictly FYI, Booster Gold product endorsements are rampant in the DC Universe Online game.
;)
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@piratedan:
The GOP are absolute ghouls
Sister Golden Bear
@Fair Economist: Porque no los dos?
NoraLenderbee
KH (VP) looks great in that shade of purple.
HumboldtBlue
@Omnes Omnibus:
Dodd was the giveaway
Sister Golden Bear
@Adam L Silverman: Given Wonder Woman’s creator, I doubtful she’d that be surprised.
Leto
@Yutsano: I said that before about her: she had a huge advantage in that she worked so closely with Beau, so she was a known quantity. She was basically vetted through one of the people he trusted the most.
Adam L Silverman
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): It’s a spoof by Stjepan Sejic. Sejic is both an artist and writer for conventional comic books for DC – he’s done Justice League, as well as the new Harley Quinn series/graphic novel – and he also does a series of independent comics. Among the latter he is, perhaps, best known for his romance series Sunstone, which has a BDSM theme. Given William Molten Marsten’s reported preferences and proclivities, this one panel is a parody of Wonder Woman, Sejic’s own other series of books, and how people relate to the character. Sejic often draws Wonder Woman as much more of a muscular woman because she is supposed to be an Amazon. So less conventionally beautiful and more powerful.
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
So much decency and humanity on display.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Ed Rendell has been doing his drunken uncle tribute act for years. I really don’t think anyone has to send him out to do it.
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: That’s because Senator Graham lets the President play with his balls.
Morzer
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Well, they are the party of Ghouliani…
Kent
I don’t pay that much attention to her frankly. The only thing I know for certain that I disagree with her on is Wilmer. The rest is mostly tactics I suspect.
Adam L Silverman
@WaterGirl: It’s way too humid and a thunderstorm without raining cut the dogs’ walk short, but otherwise it’s been okay.//
Jean
@Omnes Omnibus: Laughed out loud. I always steel myself for Attorney Generals. OF course, since she’s been one, she should know the plural.
Ruckus
@Anya:
Really?
She played the part she was supposed to play. I don’t like all her ideas but she is a great person. She’s learning that she can’t get everything she wants but with realistic effort can get what she needs. And that’s the mark of a great politician. She should have a great future and I for one, old white man, respect her and wish her well with her bright future. We need more like her, someone who recognizes that there are somethings that need to be done and someone needs to do them. Sometimes you take one for the team because the team will make sure that it will take one for you when you need it. That’s politics.
Adam L Silverman
@Yutsano:
Suzanne
@Adam L Silverman: I bought the house. Moved in this weekend. It is a fucking old house, like Cole’s. I’ve already found solid turned oak banisters and balusters, and a whole leaded glass entry, both concealed under paneling. But now free!
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: I don’t want to seem presumptuous, but I might actually know what I’m talking about.
SFAW
@Leto:
You’re here, ain’t you? Seems like you got it just right.
Adam L Silverman
@Timurid: Without a doubt.
HumboldtBlue
Philly is a lot of things but it’s filled with patriots.
Here they are greeting Obama at the museum.
TaMara (HFG)
Just went to rewatch the end of DNC video – the sign language interpreter during the music is awesome.
https://youtu.be/tcQjlQOA5dY?t=7912
Adam L Silverman
@Sister Golden Bear: Yep. See my comment at #221.
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: I think he meant to say that he didn’t monetize it properly.
Kay
@Adam L Silverman:
They should go watch some of the 47 debates he did in 2019. A stage full of really bright and insanely competitive people and Biden did fine.
They have consistently underestimated Joe Biden and I for one hope the arrogant douchebags continue to do so. In every election the question is “compared to what?” Compared to Donald Trump’s lightening fast wit and intuitive grasp of complex subjects? He’s a loudmouth dope with a 105 word vocabulary.
What came through in the debates is Biden knows a lot. He has a ton of experience in government and it shows. He doesn’t have to memorize a cheat sheet like Trump does- the cheat sheets we’ve seen because he’s too fucking lazy to even hide them. Biden actually knows this stuff.
TS (the original)
@Anya: I agree, the media needs to get past that norms must be obeyed by the democrats but who cares about the GOP.
Emma from FL
@Adam L Silverman: Hooly Mither, Silverman, I needed that image right before bed?
Adam L Silverman
@Suzanne: Congratulations!
Kattails
All in all, this has left me feeling more refreshed and upbeat than I’ve felt in months. Although growing up in NJ, it was still suburban whiteness (myself included). Now I live in NH, because of the beauty of the place; and have watched it gradually expand its racial profile. When I got here you were lucky to find Pepperidge Farm bread, and “Chinese food” was cabbage and celery in soy-flavored glop. But it has been so inspiring to see the enormous diversity embraced in these videos. I have a new set of faces to fight for.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: (Looks at Silverman and shakes head.)
Adam L Silverman
@Kay: No arguments from me.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
Hey! He did better himself didn’t he? Mediocrity is better than he was when he started out. OK not so much that it’s noticeable but still….
Adam L Silverman
@Emma from FL: You’re welcome.
NotMax
Tomorrow’s tweets today:
“FOUR DAYS and not ONE BOAT! SAD!!”
//
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Morzer:
I regret his relative obscurity only because it spares him the abuse he so richly deserves, and that I am so ready to heap upon him.
rikyrah
@cain:
Mary J
Calouste
@Ruckus: I think the more appropriate description is “He started at the bottom and worked his way down.”
Bill Arnold
@Adam L Silverman:
Best to watch this with the sound off; the rabbit hole sucketh, into a vast and bottomless rabbit warren.
Roger Stone and Rudy Giuliani, EXCLUSIVE Interview | Ep. 56, Part Two – Rudy Giuliani sits down with Roger Stone for an exclusive interview.
Or not at all. I couldn’t get more than 7 minutes into it. Oh for a transcript. (Roger Stone is a fairly polished liar. He knows considerably more about Wikileaks, the DNC hacks, the Podesta hack, and the release timings of said hacked material than he admits, IMO.)
Marcopolo
@Kay: Kay, I hate to break this to you but I don’t think DJT memorizes cheat sheets or anything for that matter. And mostly the only things he listens to are the crazy voices in his head. Puppet, no puppet, you’re the puppet. Person. Man. Woman. Camera. TV.
I rest my case.
KSinMA
@Suzanne: Congratulations! Sounds wonderful!
TS (the original)
I so enjoy these convention threads. Everyone is upbeat & happy. Reminding me more & more of 2008.
Adam L Silverman
@Bill Arnold: I’m aware of these videos that Rudy is making. They’re intended for the same folks who watch the QAnon and anti-vaxxer and neo-NAZI videos, etc, etc.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: Our nominee is Joe Biden, no boats, TRAINS!
NotMax
@BillinGlendaleCA
Overheard tonight chez Pence: “Uh oh.”
:)
Another Scott
@Adam L Silverman: Remember:
“Billy, look, you just tell them and they believe it. That’s it: you just tell them and they believe. They just do.”
They’re not even trying, because they don’t think they have to. And because they actually don’t know how to do real work.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kay
I loved Obama’s speech because the harsh, plain speaking Obama was what I valued most. I think that’s who he really is. Obama doesn’t kid himself. He knows this is a bad situation we’re in and he’s not willing to tell us a bedtime story. We’ve been lied to enough, I think. No more of that for President Obama.
Mary G
@Suzanne: Exciting! My house had hardwood from 1923 under ugly beige carpet that refinished beautifully.
Ruckus
@Calouste:
I was going for sideways but pretty sure you aren’t wrong. He probably has a job because he’s had the job for a long time and has over the years, for some inexplicable reason been able to get a decent contract, that will cost them more to break than it’s worth. Besides they would probably end up with some twit who isn’t any better, who they would have to train. And you see how well their training works…….
Martin
@Kent: I think a lot of politics focuses too much on the policy answers and not on the policy questions.
AOC is signaling the questions that Democrats should be asking, just as MFOL, BLM, and so on are. If we aren’t searching for answers to those questions, we’re doing it wrong.
So listen to what AOC is focusing on – it’s different from what almost everyone else in Congress is, but it’s pretty representative of what young people worry about.
Omnes Omnibus
Okay, you kids play nice. I am going to go finish season 3 of Jessica Jones and go to bed.
Alison Rose
@gwangung: I LOL’d so hard
SectionH
@Martin: Well, I’ve never been in step with my actual age cohorts. I was doing GOTV when I was 16 and voting age was 21. Got busy in life & all I did was stuff like driving ppl to polls on the day, when we were actually home, but I damn well raised a politically aware kid, and now I’ve gotta 9 yr old granddaughter. She’s getting raised right, too. FFS, the kids deserve a world they can do more than scramble to get along in. (Don’t get me started tonight.)
I like AOC a lot. The nonsense about her is enormous. I srsly think Nancy basically told her she has a big future, but she needs to learn things too. And that’s what I see happening. AOC is fine. But dammit, I sure as fuck didn’t need someone to be the “youngest candidate blah blah blah” to vote for them when I was old enough. Policy wonk, not exactly but close. Oops, sorry, Bernie being the old guy lotsa kids supported just popped up in my head. Y’know, I think in fact young ppl actually Want to hear about policy, or at least our young people do. I know I did.
What a lot of ppl aren’t good at – not just youngs – is that policy doesn’t make things happen. I was so damn lucky to have the whole idea of “sausage-making” instilled when I was in single digit age. Of course now, maybe that’s a handicap…
Yutsano
@Kattails: Samosa trucks on every corner also sounds good to me.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: Party pooper.
Heywood J.
@Adam L Silverman: Ah, Ghouliani’s reinventing himself as a detective, with his longtime partner Johnnie Walker. He’ll probably try to pin the robbery of his favorite liquor store on Biden.
I bet his daughter hasn’t spoken to him in years and never talks to him again.
Kay
@Marcopolo:
I listened to the Trump betrayer – the guy who worked for him and thinks he’s terrifyingly dumb- and I feel he misunderstands Trump. Donald wasn’t asking how hurricanes work because he’s a third grader. He was talking, filling in space, because he doesn’t know anything and he thinks never shutting up covers that up. It’s just noise. He’s empty. The words fill up the space where knowing something should be. Could have been hurricanes, could have been anything. Doesn’t matter.
PJ
@Anya: Harris was the obvious pick from the time it became clear Biden was going to be the nominee in mid-March. (Not that it matters, but I called it here way back when, in the early years of 2020). Just as Biden was the obvious pick – the one who almost always led in polls going into the primaries – when no one else got any real traction against Sanders. At this point in this country’s history, at this inflection point, as she put it tonight, you don’t need to reach, you don’t need to pull out a wild card, if you want an electoral victory, you go for the sure thing.
(NB: I was a Warren supporter up until mid-March. I am fully on board with Biden/Harris.)
Anya
@Ruckus: Sorry but I don’t agree with this. I like ALL of her ideas. I admire her and I want her to be the leader she is capable of becoming. Her not congratulating the first Black woman to be a major party’s vice presidential nominee is a huge oversight, at best, and at worst a petty move. And I thought she was above all that crap. Not gonna lie, her slight of Kamala hurt. It’s personal.
I don’t even care about her endorsing Bernie. That’s on Bernie not her. She was just part of the rule. But she spent a whole week complaining about the short time of her speech when she perfectly knew what it was about and why. She even had the audacity to use a civil rights poem to signal her oppression.
I am objecting to these things, not because I hate AOC, the opposite it true, but I am disappointed in these shenanigans. I expect better from her.
Anya
@Kay: Same. President Obama always knows how to respond to the moment.
Adam L Silverman
@Heywood J.: If any of his family actually cared about him, they’d get him help.
Anya
@Adam L Silverman: No doubt in my mind.
Anya
I know I said goodnight but I am full of energy. I can’t sleep. I am going to do that adopt a state thing the O Bros are doing.
SectionH
@Suzanne: Well, you won’t be bored… ok, sincere best wishes for all aspects of your new life!
Kay
The baby chick deliveries are kind of a cherished tradition in rural post offices. This has been going on for a hundred years and it always worked prior to Donald Trump and his low quality employees destroying everything they touch.
West of the Rockies
I can only imagine what themes next week’s Republican Convention will include…
Everybody is picking on us!
Whaaaaaaaaaa!!!
Scary brown people gonna get us!
Homosexuals are ruining society…
Bibles ‘n’ guns–fuck, yeah!
Did we mention that everybody is picking on us!
Heywood J.
@Kay: Yes, this exactly. Trump has always — and I mean as far back as the 1980s, but of course he’s much worse now — struck me as someone who is uncomfortable with silence, and probably does not like being alone.
Because then it’s just him and his thoughts, and he doesn’t have thoughts, he has his dopey Wile E. Coyote schemes and empty vainglory, and the crushing knowledge that his father was right, he’s a worthless sack of shit.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more miserable, insecure, needy person in my entire life.
Heywood J.
@Adam L Silverman: I think he sealed his fate there when he chose to publicly humiliate his second wife. Like Trump, he knows what he really is, and spends all his time pretending not to.
rikyrah
rikyrah
@Kay:
????
rikyrah
@Kay:
More and more of these stories need to get out.
like I wrote earlier – this USPS story is both national and fiercely local
jl
I think Harris gave a very good speech, and parts of it, particularly delivery, got into Obama territory. Though Obama gave one of the greatest speeches of his life tonight, so many comparisons will be unfair in that respect.
Harris was one of my top two choices in the primary. I think among the candidates labeled as a moderate, she was the real deal in terms of policy. I think she was the only ‘moderate’ (only moderate by today’s terms, in the past she would have been very liberal) who laid out any clear details of how her a relatively moderate approach could be used to get big policy improvements. But, she bobbled on health care policy for too long, among other things. Taking too long to shore up her policy allowed various BS issues that the media is obsessed with to harm her campaign.
jl
@Kay: Biden got stronger as the campaign and the debates went on, and continues to do so. Not sure what some of his problems were early on. Yips from knowledge this was his last run? Needed time to rethink his campaign message after early weaknesses?
Whatever… seems to be over now.
Kattails
@Kay: That’s ghastly. For contrast: When I kept chickens many years ago, my very first order, through the mail– the local postmaster called the house and said “You have a package here, it’s peeping”. I can’t comprehend the absolute brutishness of what this is coming down to. In the spring here–the local agricultural store–always large troughs with heat lamps and adorable fluffy chicks and baby ducks.
Bastards.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Biden was rusty, he hadn’t run since 2012.
Wyatt Salamanca
@Adam L Silverman:
That statement applies equally to Trump.
Hopefully, sometime after November, Trump and Giuliani will end up in either the same psych ward or the same cell block.
PJ
@Kay: I got into a discussion with a postal employee at my local post office sometime in the last year about the proper rate to be charged for some items I was sending (it seemed to me the rate had gone up inordinately), and I was amused to discover, and mention to the employee, the special rate for “day-old poultry”: https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c5_008.htm#ep184002
(Please note that day-old pheasants are only mailable during April through August. Also, “scorpions are mailable only when sent for the purposes of medical research use or the manufacture of antivenin,” but mailing baby alligators is a-ok so long as they are under 20 inches long and don’t smell inordinately.)
Origuy
Putin’s opponent Alexsey Navalny has been poisoned on a flight. He is in the hospital and is unconscious.
I hope Joe and Kamala’s Secret Service crew stay alert.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Wyatt Salamanca:
Yeah, I had to scroll back to see who Adam was referring to.
Wyatt Salamanca
@Adam L Silverman:
Fox News creep Brit Hume is calling Biden senile.
h/t https://www.mediaite.com/tv/oh-my-goodness-fox-news-panel-goes-haywire-after-brit-hume-calls-biden-senile/
Makes you wonder if Brit Hume has seen Trump lately.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@jl:
You and I watched a different primary. The internet Left and several big name primary candidates learned the wrong lessons from 2016 and more or less blanked on the lessons of 2018. Joe Biden ran as Obama’s heir, as Obama’s third term, as the Defender of Obama’s Legacy/ObamaCare. I don’t think it was a brilliant strategy, I think it was just who Biden was/is. The demographics of the Iowa and NH Dem contests, and NV being a caucus skewed a lot of expectations (with the caveat/confession that everything seems inevitable once it’s happened. He benefited from racism and misogyny, and the fear of those things among Dem primary voters, but he also benefited from not think twitter accurately represents….. well, anything, except maybe Bernie supporters.
Wyatt Salamanca
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I have difficulty figuring out who’s more batshit crazy, Trump or Giuliani.
PJ
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Biden’s unbrilliant strategy won. What does that say about the strategies of the other geniuses? Biden’s campaign was centered around defeating Trump, when the other competitors were arguing about the details of health care plans that would never make it past Mitch McConnell (or Joe Manchin, for that matter.) I do know that Biden won in large part because of African-American support, which none of his competitors had in any significant degree, and which Biden accrued in part because he was a loyal VP to Biden, but also because he had built up a strong connection to black politicians and voters over nearly 50 years. How did the racist and misogynist vote put Biden over the top? Were the racists and misogynists not going to vote for the guy who came in second, the other old white guy?
ETA: I know that any woman or person of color that runs for office has a disadvantage against any white guy due to the biases of the electorate. Given that, I still don’t think anyone else could have competed over the long haul without black support, which went overwhelmingly towards Biden (who also got a lot of Hispanic support – Bernie’s comments about Castro did him no favors.)
PJ
@Wyatt Salamanca: Or if Brit Hume has listened to himself, ever.
West of the Rockies
@Origuy:
I wish Putin would be poisoned like the young king of GoT.
West of the Rockies
@PJ:
Lurch Hume has all the charisma of a cold and rusty bed pan.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@PJ:
that was kind of my point
That’s not what I said. We’ll never be able to quantify how sexism and racism hurt Warren and Harris, who had money and enthusiasm and (in different ways) charisma, but I think they did. I also think they hurt themselves by not looking at ’18 instead of ’16. “AOC” and the Squad didn’t flip the House, Lauren Underwood and Max Rose and Sharice Davids and Connor Lamb and Zachary Allred and Abigail Spanberger and Lucy McBath and Jason Crow did. Harris and Warren went all in on (among other things) BernieCare. That’s not where the party was, much less the broader electorate. Also, it’s often observed, and an observation I find persuasive even if it’s the kind of thing you can’t really poll, that a lot of Black voters in 2020 felt that they couldn’t trust white people to not be racist, so they supported Biden. I know in meatspace two (white) women who said early after 2016 that we needed a white guy to beat trump. Maybe that’s true, maybe it isn’t, but it’s what we’ve got.
NoraLenderbee
Biden wasn’t my first choice either and I am 100% behind him and I’ll crawl over broken glass to vote for him now. Kamala may not be the second coming of Wonder Woman and I couldn’t care less and I’ll crawl over glass for her, too. HRC is our rightful President and SHE is 100% behind the Biden/Harris ticket and everyone else can damn well get behind it too. People need to stop fucking fighting the battles of 2016 and 2008 and 1792 and fucking DO IT RIGHT NOW.
(ahem) Thank you for your time.
Marcopolo
Heading off to bed but let me leave y’all with this happy news:
Flipping the Texas State House on Nov. 3 would be a big effing deal (like 3rd after winning the Presidency & flipping the US Senate). It would keep Rs from gerrymandering the hell out of the 2nd most populous state for the 2020s. Also, flipping the legislature is the precursor to flipping the 2 US Senate seats, assuming MJ Hegar falls short in Nov.–though there is a slim chance for her to win.
patrick II
President Obama showed us how to go high but with frank, hard truth.
Jay Noble
@PJ: Look a little deeper and you’ll find that you could mail babies and toddlers via the post office.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@SiubhanDuinne: Word. Brian can just go away for all I care. Love the three women together.
Redshift
@Wyatt Salamanca:
If this is what’s coming down through whatever communication channel gets conservative public figures to all parrot the same talking points, it means they still haven’t figured out anything better against Biden. Which is really good news, if true.
Launching this the day before Biden’s acceptance speech guarantees it will only resonate with their hardcore base that watches their manipulated videos. It won’t gain them anyone new.
RaflW
GW Bush was a disastrous president. But it’s just eating Orangemandias alive that Obama went out there and gave this speech, and GWB probably won’t even take Trump’s call.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@TS (the original): I am SO tired of him asking guests about the RNC making Hunter Biden the issue, It seems like he is really pushing the idea through his “concern”.
RaflW
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: We watched the same primary but reach different conclusions. I think you have to have a balance between supporting the Obama administration’s accomplishments, and looking ahead, and importance of adapting the policies to new problems.
I think Biden put too much emphasis on the former at the beginning
One thing that limited Sanders appeal is that he put far too much emphasis on the latter, and in ways that seemed to be implicit criticisms of Obama. I think Biden got the right balance by the end of the competitive primaries when everyone was still campaigning.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan): I decided for shits and giggles to check the RNC schedule. It’s a pretty slim schedule, only about 12 speakers over 3 nights. The first night is the call of the states for the nomination
ETA: The headliners for the 3 nights are: the 3rd lady, Dence, and Lord SmallGloves.
patrick II
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
The secret headliner will be Q, who will reveal his secret identity and nominate Donald Trump for president. Trump will thank him and tell Q to carry on his fight against sexual perversion and black people in high office.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I’d be surprised if any Republican from any ticket of the century shows up. Ditto any swing-staters up for re-election. Lindsey’s a given, and the 2024 wannabes– Cruz, Rubio, Cotton, Haley, Hawyly, are all but a given. He’s got the Covington kid and the boozy pepper-pot gun nuts from St Louis. Give him another week to invite guests, and we’re looking at the Republican National Convention redone as CPAC.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Nikki Haley is a scheduled speaker.
Here’s the list:
Martin
Things in CA starting to look more dire. There’s about 350 fires in the state, almost all are burning out of control. CalFire has admitted they have no resources to fight them. Our army has been inmate firefighters and they all have covid.
They’re evacuating Travis AFB, and when we start evacuating the military, well, that’s a bad sign. CalFire has asked everyone in the state to be prepared for evacuation. Some of that is just ‘be prepared’ but its coming off a bit worse – as if they don’t know how they’re going to get on top of this.
SoCal is looking okay – Apple fire nearly fully contained (it started weeks ago) and Lake fire about ⅓ contained which probably means the side threatening the public. But the LNU lightning fire is 124K acres with no containment (north of Napa in the mountains – hard to fight) and the SCU lightning fire is 100K acres and 5% contained (east of San Jose in the mountains – also hard to fight).
Jay
@Anya:
keep the bullshit coming,
Origuy
@Martin: I’m about 2 miles away from the SCU evacuation zone. I don’t expect to have to go, though. The line was drawn far away from where the fires are active, but it’s on the last street before it gets hilly. I was outside earlier and it’s not as smoky as it was this afternoon.
John S.
@Jay: Better late than never.