Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

If you can’t control your emotions, someone else will.

Fight them, without becoming them!

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

We will not go back.

Anne Laurie is a fucking hero in so many ways. ~ Betty Cracker

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

Republicans cannot even be trusted with their own money.

When they say they are pro-life, they do not mean yours.

American history and black history cannot be separated.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Republicans in disarray!

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

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  1. 1.

    JMG

    It’s pretty straightforward now, as Erickson’s tweet indicates. The Republicans will run on an eliminationist program. We will kill your enemies for you. Well, two can play at that game.

  3. 3.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Tony Evers is a great guy and good governor, but, god love him, he is a black hole charisma-wise.

  4. 4.

    JPL

    Truthfully, I’m still confused about how pissypants decided that getting behind QAnon was a good idea. All I saw was Karl Rove saying not the best strategy because they are kooks. Maybe we should ask Mitch what her thinks.

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    “Why don’t they want us to vote?”  Everyone who believes in the concept of democracy should ask just that.

  8. 8.

    Ken

    @JPL: I may be confusing the cults, but isn’t QAnon the one that thinks Trump is a supergenius whose tweets are coded messages about his amazing plans and dastardly enemies?  I could see how that would appeal to him.

  10. 10.

    Ken

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Is she speaking from the Amtrak baggage check room?

    I had the same problem visiting my parents earlier this year. The best wifi signal was in the basement near the router, so my meeting background was a bunch of storage boxes and luggage.

  16. 16.

    dmsilev

    Erickson has been a fanatical Christianist asshole (redundancies noted) for a long time, so the only even vaguely surprising thing about his tweet is that he was willing to even say “the Bidens are kind people”.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Erick Erickson
    @EWErickson
    Not gonna lie, Joe and Jill Biden are two of the nicest people you’ll ever meet on planet earth. They are genuinely kind people. But I don’t want Biden as President.

    This fuckin’ guy.

  22. 22.

    lamh36

    Kamala Harris: “I think we need to ask ourselves, why don’t they want us to vote? Why is there so much effort to silence our voices? And the answer is because when we vote, things change. When we vote, things get better … So each of us needs a plan. A voting plan.”

  23. 23.

    Leto

    If these guys win, we’re going to wake up in January with Elizabeth Warren as Treasury Secretary

    Guys, I’m already voting for Biden. You don’t have to keep selling him this hard to me! /s

  24. 24.

    Jay

    @Ken:

    while also defeating the Deep State and any moment now will be arresting and executing all of the Celebs and Democratic Party members who are engaged in kidnapping children for adrenochrome harvesting  for drug parties.

  29. 29.

    guachi

    Funeral Joe is Best Joe

    Go watch his speech to TAPS in (I think 2012) and you’ll see Biden’s best speech ever.

  31. 31.

    Jay

    After being told QAnon believes Trump is "secretly saving the world from a Satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals," Trump replies, "If I can help save the world from problems, I'm willing to do it. … And we are actually. We're saving the world from a radical left philosophy."— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) August 19, 2020

  36. 36.

    moonbat

    Good thing I have a bunch of Kleenex in reserve. Tonight’s going to be rough on the tear ducts.

  38. 38.

    Martin

    It’s not the best argument for how to vote, but “Hi everyone, it’s me Kamala” makes me feel better every time, just like Obama does.

  40. 40.

    Elizabelle

    Gabrielle Giffords’ speech has improved so much since last time I listened to her.  She’s worked so hard.

  41. 41.

    TS (the original)

    @Yutsano:

    Dust in the eyes again, and thoughts of who was to blame for the shooting that killed  (among others) a 9 year old girl.

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    You could never say any of this about he who stole the Oval Office.

    Have never, ever seen a starker choice.  Well, 2016, for sure.  But trump has turned out even worse than expected.  And I never had any positive expectations of him.  Destroyer.

  49. 49.

    West of the Cascades

    @Baud:The first part is all about the issues.

    This is the hour the networks aren’t covering, right? Cue the “Democrats aren’t talking about issues” nonsense (like the stupid Nate Silver “scoring” yesterday).

  51. 51.

    TS (the original)

    @Baud:   That’s novel, wonder if any of the wapo pundits are watching, or those middle of the road voters they are now plastering across the front page.

  52. 52.

    Yutsano

    @TS (the original):  I want her back in Washington as the spouse of Senator Mark Kelly.

    CC: @MomSense:  I’m beyond awed at the progress she has made. And you could tell how hard that was for her. And I love how they showed her speech therapist.

  54. 54.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @dmsilev:

    The Bidens will repurpose Melania’s tennis pavilion for a really awesome model train layout. Just because they can.

    He can get Rod Steward to help design and build it. Seriously. He spent 23 years building a massive model, working on parts of it while he touring.

    On a serious note, I’m pleased to see the epidemic of trans-related murders being mentioned as something to address.

  61. 61.

    Anne Laurie

    @Martin: I secretly hope Joe can pass a massive infrastructure bill which is just ‘trains’.

    Heck — so does Joe!

    (And me, three… )

  67. 67.

    Martin

    Shoutout for micromobility. Wasn’t expecting that. Good. Saves money, good for the environment.

  69. 69.

    Yutsano

    @WaterGirl: There aren’t a lot of people who can wear a suit like that. Personally I think Kerry is rocking it. But her emotions are coming off a bit forced to me. As always, YMMV.

  73. 73.

    Anne Laurie

    @dmsilev: I remember a Globe North article during Stewart’s last tour — he snuck away from his handlers to visit North East Trains in Peabody.  IIRC, the store owner (another fanatic) had no idea who the English dude was, except he knew his trains…

  82. 82.

    jl

    Just saw this:

    Trump campaign, in strategy shift, makes push in early-voting states
    The president’s campaign will start running new attack ads against rival Joe Biden on Monday in key early-voting states, including Michigan and North Carolina.

    NBC news

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-campaign-strategy-shift-makes-push-early-voting-states-n1235544

    Democrats are crazy if they don’t push that too. So, glad to hear Michelle Obama say ‘vote early, in person if possible’ in her speech. As in previous thread, a good GOTV campaign can make early voting a reasonable risk. Especially for younger voters.

  83. 83.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Yutsano:

    I want her back in Washington as the spouse of Senator Mark Kelly.

    His swearing-in would will be within a few days of the tenth anniversary of the shooting that changed both of their lives forever.

  84. 84.

    Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    @dmsilev:

    The Bidens will repurpose Melania’s tennis pavilion for a really awesome model train layout. Just because they can.

    That would be awesome! (In the old sense), If only my Dad were still here to see it.

  88. 88.

    Marcopolo

    @MomSense: Honestly, a sub current of this entire convention is making way for the next generation.  That and finally showing proper appreciation for our foundational Democratic AA women.

    Remember Bill Clinton ‘s building a bridge to the 21st century speech?  Let me tell you, showing is a lot more powerful than telling.

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Billie Eilish’s eyes are so light blue that they almost look colorless.  Nice little talk though.  I like her.

  91. 91.

    Yutsano

    @Gin & Tonic: Did you bring enough for the class mister?

    Billie sounds like she’s channeling her inner lounge singer. And is it me or are their crickets in the background?

  95. 95.

    dmsilev

    @jl:

    So, glad to hear Michelle Obama say ‘vote early, in person if possible’ in her speech.

    Well, she is from Chicago after all. “Vote early, vote often”.

  96. 96.

    Anya

    I keep seeing Erick Erickson’s tweets, and I don’t understand why anyone cares about him. He always says something insanely stupid or something evil.  I refuse to know who he is beyond what he seems — a wingnut world’s version of a serious person.

  98. 98.

    MomSense

    Hey I just got a text with a photo of my son with his SO by the ocean and she has some special bling on her left hand!!!

  99. 99.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @WaterGirl: She’s the youngest person and second person ever to win the four main Grammy categories – Best New Artist, Record of the Year, Song of the Year and Album of the Year – in the same year. Only 18. Born after 9/11. Yes I feel old.

  107. 107.

    geg6

    I like everything about Billie Eilish.

    Young Estella is also wonderful.  I love her and she breaks my heart.

  119. 119.

    Steeplejack

    All right, this Latina girl Estela is speaking to me! Putting the wood to Trump on his vile immigration policies. More like this, please.

  125. 125.

    Anne Laurie

    @Anya: I keep seeing Erick Erickson’s tweets, and I don’t understand why anyone cares about him. He always says something insanely stupid or something evil. I refuse to know who he is beyond what he seems — a wingnut world’s version of a serious person.

    Because he’s made a nice living out of being ‘the Voice of the GOP Gated Community.’  He’s the actual (bloated White evangelical male) Suburbanite the Trump campaign is aiming so much of its energy at this year — to know what he’s yapping on social media is to know how well the Trump/GRU campaign is working on its targets.

  138. 138.

    Anne Laurie

    @Baud: Looks like all our heavy hitters are in prime time (second hour).

    I think that’s the hour all the network news channels are carrying live?

  141. 141.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Gorgeous song and nice updated rendition.  Isn’t Prince Royce Puerto Rican?

    ETA:  Nope Dominican-American and from the Bronx.

  143. 143.

    Elizabelle

    I am liking Prince Royce.  Never heard him before.  Love the Spanish interspersed in the lyrics.

  144. 144.

    Marcopolo

    I’m a boring as fuck middle-aged white dude but I sure hope the Biden campaign Hispanic/latino/a outreach works. It’s a soft demographic for him.

  148. 148.

    geg6

    @NotMax:

    I can tell you right now, women all over America are googling to find out where to get it.  Now, whether they should get it is another question.  I probably could have pulled it off in my 20s or 30s.  I seemed tall (not really but I have freakishly long legs) and I was thin and fit, not old with a post-menopause body like now.

  153. 153.

    Yutsano

    Okay some idiot columnist in WaPo said there hadn’t been enough Latinx representation in this convention.

    I have only one thing to say to him:

    “WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW???”

  158. 158.

    West of the Cascades

    I’m bilingual and am loving all the Spanish I’m hearing and all the Latina/Latino voices. I’m a little irked at Julian Castro’s butt-hurt for being denied a speaking spot and turning that into “Biden risks losing the Latino community because the Democrats don’t have enough Latina/o voices” at the convention.

  160. 160.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    Keep your eye out tonight for someone named Barack Obama.   I keep hearing he’s an electric speaker, with boundless charisma.  They say with a little luck he could be president one day.

  184. 184.

    Elizabelle

    Thinking on Sharon Stone’s video about COVID.  She strongly advised a vote for Biden and women of power, because it is women running countries who have done the best in dealing with COVID.

    Indisputable.

  198. 198.

    Elizabelle

    Hillary in the same place as WJC last night, but lit differently.

    And she is going to tell some truths about Trump.  Hard truths.

  201. 201.

    MomSense

    I’m a little pissed that Hillz isn’t getting a slot in the hour the media covers, but I understand why.  And that pisses me off even more.

  206. 206.

    Ken

    @lamh36: [President Obama] asked to swap the order and precede Sen. Kamala Harris to symbolically pass the torch to her

    Love the sentiment, but I’m worried the phrasing will feed the loons who are claiming Biden is going to step aside and make Harris President.

  209. 209.

    Elizabelle

    I never use the term “re-elected” for Trump.

    I don’t think he was legit in the first place.  HRC is so much better than me.

  211. 211.

    Steeplejack

    @Elizabelle:

    But Trump pointed out today that New Zealand under Jacinda Ardern has had a huge coronavirus surge of [*checks notes*] six cases. Check and mate, libtard!

  212. 212.

    Yutsano

    Hillary both uplifting Joe and smacking around Dolt45.

    EDIT: And that’s why she’s wearing white.

    Hillary shouting out young people!

    OT: stream is being a bit glitchy on C-SPAN.

  213. 213.

    Leto

    “Remember Joe and Kamala can win by 3 million votes and still lose! Take it from me…”

    Uuuuuuggghhhhhh

  217. 217.

    Anne Laurie

    @Amir Khalid: It’s Billie Eilish. Not a common name; I’d never come across it before.

    According to media, it was originally her middle name — an Irish version of Alice.  Which I’d looked up at some point, because I remember some kids with Eilish as a first name, growing up.

  219. 219.

    HumboldtBlue

    I think one of the things that surprised me the most as I got older was just how many men in the world despise women. It shocked me and still does. Real animosity and it’s always been a mystery to me.

  227. 227.

    West of the Cascades

    @Steeplejack:But Trump pointed out today that New Zealand under Jacinda Ardern has had a huge coronavirus surge of [*checks notes*] six cases. Check and mate, libtard!

    And she delayed their election by a month because of six cases, so Trump should be able to delay our election by … 10,000 months?

  232. 232.

    Elizabelle

    I would really like to see Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.  For a year or two.  She is loved in the better countries, and knows her job.

    Nancy Smash.

    5 children in 6 years.  Woo.

  235. 235.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    Sniffle.

    I don’t remember ever crying during a convention speech.

    ❤️ Hillary

  236. 236.

    guachi

    I like that Hillary and Pelosi went back to back. Maybe their combined strength will cause Republicans to explode with their hate.

  238. 238.

    Anya

    Is everyone getting a hype video? I thought only the Presidental nominee and the VP nominee got that.

  241. 241.

    MomSense

    “I’m a mother of five and a grandmother of nine. I know a temper tantrum when I see one.”

  242. 242.

    Skepticat

    I bought enough diesel (at $6 a gallon) to run the whole-house generator so I could watch tonight’s convention, and it was worth every penny. I find it heart-wrenching and heartwarming overall. It may not be perfect, but I like it better than a traditional convention. And it has really increased my enthusiasm.

    We. Must. Do This.

  243. 243.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Elizabelle: I would really like to see Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. For a year or two. She is loved in the better countries, and knows her job.

    No.  There are people ready to take on that job.

  246. 246.

    Yutsano

    “I’m a mother of five and a grandmother of nine. I know a temper tantrum when I see one.”

    Do. Not. Fuck. With. A. Nonna.

    @Sister Golden Bear: WOOT!!!

    Ooh she smacked around Yertle!

  250. 250.

    Jeffro

    @Jay: note that he didn’t go, “What?  Pedophiles and cannibals??  These Q people must be CRAZY!!  Geddouttaheah!”

  253. 253.

    Suzanne

    @Yutsano: 

    And I love how they showed her speech therapist.

    Mr. Suzanne is so damn happy.
    Gabby tore me up.

    Fuck Erick Son of Erick, and Ted Cruz, and, well, ALL THEM ALL.
    FUCKEM.

  255. 255.

    guachi

    I love that Nancy smiles until she has to say “Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump” and then she stops smiling.

  256. 256.

    Anya

    Is someone driving near Nancy Smash? I am a bit nervous about the live speeches in these COVID days.

  265. 265.

    Jeffro

    @Leto: I hope to be half as brave, have half as much class, should I ever find myself with that kind of loss/robbery/crime

  269. 269.

    Omnes Omnibus

    My s-i-l who works for a women’s shelter and against domestic and sexual abuse would crawl across flaming broken glass to vote for Biden because of VAWA.

  270. 270.

    Anya

    Kerry Washington’s 8th grade teacher tweeting about her pride in her former student is everything.

  272. 272.

    Aleta

    So many women in the 70s and 80s worked to establish and staff  shelters and local hot lines and get no-fault divorce passed in states;   and to get legislation passed.  Would be nice to acknowledge that.

  273. 273.

    Feathers

    @Yutsano:  She played it when young, took it up again as therapy. Music is wired deeply into the human mind. There are theories that our language abilities grew out of our musicality, not the other way around. Gabby can sing better than she can speak. This is often the case.

  276. 276.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Anya: Running a good campaign and running a good convention is a sign of executive ability.  It’s not everything, but Biden is doing it.

  278. 278.

    dmsilev

    @Anya: It is. It could have gone wrong in so many ways, but the folks who put in the effort to plan and prepare the event have done a wonderful job.

  279. 279.

    Mary G

    Nancy SMASH crushed it. Happy to see so many amazing women and abortion rights getting at least a shout out.

  280. 280.

    Anya

    @Elizabelle: She’s begging to speak at the freak show next week. I wouldn’t put it past Trump and his low quality hires to actually have her speak.

  284. 284.

    Anya

    @Omnes Omnibus: The Biden Campaign’s competence is what makes me sleep at night. They’ve proved time and again that they know what they’re doing. I am so happy they’re not baited by the media or twitter.

  287. 287.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Feathers:

    Gabby can sing better than she can speak. This is often the case.

    There was a scene — a sequence, really — in The King’s Speech where Lionel Logue had King George VI sing whatever he was trying to say. Not a stutter to be heard. My little brother also had, and to some extent still has, a severe stutter, but he is a singer and the same thing happens with him. He doesn’t stutter when he sings.

  293. 293.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Anya: The Obama campaign had a good plan and stuck to it without getting distracted by winning any given week in 2008.  Biden’s campaign is echoing that.

  298. 298.

    Baud

    I hate to say this, but tonight has been more issue oriented rather than going after Trump.  I was expecting the opposite.

  310. 310.

    Anya

    I love this story. I’ve heard it so many times but the Aunt Bea story gets me emosh every time.

  313. 313.

    Elizabelle

    Seven suitcases and a Pekingnese named Buddy ….  I learned a fundamental truth.  No one makes it on their own.

    Truth.

    Vs. the asshats who were all “you didn’t build that.”

  314. 314.

    TS (the original)

    I’m so jealous of anyone who had an Aunt Bea and can’t imagine how women are managing the child care issues during this pandemic.

  322. 322.

    Yutsano

    @HeleninEire: This whole convention so far has been an actual visual delight.

    Liz tearing into the Republicans.

    EDIT:  “We organized, we persisted, and we changed America.”

    Love.

    Barack’s turn?

  325. 325.

    Elizabelle

    This crisis is on Donald Trump and the Republicans who enabled him.  On November 3rd, we will hold them accountable.

    Yes we will.

    Stay in this fight to get things done.

  330. 330.

    Anya

    ? every time I remember how white America replaced Barack Obama with the worst human on the planet.

  333. 333.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I cried the first time this award ceremony happened, live, and I’m crying again now.

  357. 357.

    West of the Cascades

    Who was saying earlier that “they’re not going after Trump tonight”? GO LIZ AND BARACK!

  360. 360.

    Elizabelle

    I did hope that Donald Trump might show some interest in taking the job seriously.

    … He has shown no interest in putting in the work …[except to benefit himself]

    Donald Trump has not grown into the job.  Because he can’t.

  366. 366.

    lamh36

    “Donald Trump hasn’t grown into the job because he can’t. And the consequences of that failure are severe. 170,000 Americans dead. Millions of jobs gone while those at the top take in more than ever.”

  367. 367.

    dmsilev

    @Suzanne: It’s the right tone for the moment. Soaring-rhetoric Obama or even preacher-Obama wouldn’t fit with the setting or this time.

  368. 368.

    West of the Cascades

    It’s really cool that the Obamas have a big, Constitution-themed rec room in their DC home.

  370. 370.

    lamh36

    Trump “has shown no interest in putting in the work.” Trump sees the presidency as “one more reality show he can use to get the attention he craves….He hasn’t grown into the job because he can’t.” 

  371. 371.

    Anya

    My brother randomly: “Bernie Sanders was not relevant before Barack Obama.”

    My mom: shush. The OUR President is talking

    I feel like he’s arguing with his friends and it spilled out into .

  377. 377.

    Kent

    Every time I see Obama speak it just sears my soul to realize what we’ve lost and how far we’ve fallen.

    All because of nationwide racist temper tantrum.

  379. 379.

    Elizabelle

    My forever president.

    It’s like Leonardo da Vinci being followed by that Ecce Homo restorer woman.

    But the restorer WANTED to wreck the painting.

  385. 385.

    Anya

    President Obama sounds like a really that caring teacher who put so much effort in motivating you because they believe in you and you keep not meeting your potential.

  386. 386.

    Elizabelle

    The meanness and the lies and the conspiracy theories.

    [The Q holes.]

    But learn up peeps — those are only on one side.  Maybe some of you should pay a little closer attention.

  394. 394.

    Yutsano

    ” Do not let them take away you power. Do  not let them take away your democracy.”

    Thank you President Obama!

  395. 395.

    guachi

    The thing about doing it without an audience is you can give a quiet speech like this. Just brilliant.

  398. 398.

    Elizabelle

    John Lewis.

    We gotta get his voting rights act passed.

    He was marching into a jail cell.  The very day Obama was born.

  404. 404.

    Anya

    This is amazing. I hope a lot of “I am not voting because Joe doesn’t excite me” crowd will listen and take in the message.

  405. 405.

    guachi

    “If you give up and don’t vote, so help me I’m coming to your house and kicking your ass”

  423. 423.

    Steeplejack

    Somebody is getting triggered:

    WHY DID HE REFUSE TO ENDORSE SLOW JOE UNTIL IT WAS ALL OVER, AND EVEN THEN WAS VERY LATE? WHY DID HE TRY TO GET HIM NOT TO RUN?

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 20, 2020

  430. 430.

    West of the Cascades

    Loving the Harris family. compare with Mike Pence and Mother and miscellaneous spawn.

  431. 431.

    Elizabelle

    With Kamala, and with Obama — I wish their moms could have lived to see their elevation to highest offices.

    Heartbreaking.

  433. 433.

    Ruckus

    There is a FTFNYT tweet which is a video about Gabby Giffords that is well worth the few moments it takes to watch. Tweet

  434. 434.

    Winston

    Nodded off but woke just in time to hear Barrack Obama. What an inspiration. Great speech. great man.

  437. 437.

    Elizabelle

    If she is not Vice President, I am moving to the moon.

    And I will not care if I have an oxygen supply.

  440. 440.

    Elizabelle

    I know a predator when I see one.

    You know, that might be a real difference between Democrats and Republicans.

  442. 442.

    Elizabelle

    I think Kamala is going to be President in her own right, too.  One of these days.

    (But nothing happening to JRB, Jr.  Please!)

  443. 443.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Steeplejack: Trump doesn’t understand the concept of NOT rigging a contest. That’s all this is. Screaming, whining, and not being able to understand an ethical decision.

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