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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 Coronavirus / COVID-19 Coronavirus Update: Monday/Tuesday, August 24-25

COVID-19 Coronavirus Update: Monday/Tuesday, August 24-25

by Anne Laurie|  August 25, 20204:55 am| 30 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus, Foreign Affairs, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

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57 percent of Republicans think 176,000 coronavirus deaths (and counting) is acceptable. Holy shit. pic.twitter.com/dd737aoOmj

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 23, 2020

175,000 Americans could not be reached for comment https://t.co/ejv8U70XkJ

— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) August 24, 2020


"I don't blame [Trump] for the COVID crisis. I blame him for walking away and not dealing with the solutions. The idea of saying that this is gonna go away, this miracle's gonna happen." https://t.co/tVZdNz3u0Y

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) August 24, 2020

Dr. Anthony Fauci warned against the notion of early emergency use authorization for a potential coronavirus vaccine, explaining that such a step could damage efforts to develop other vaccines https://t.co/cjig6lTJ8B

— CNN International (@cnni) August 25, 2020

They announced the pandemic to be over 2 or 3 times now, it won't go away, just because it went away for a newscycle.

Not to speak of the fact, that when you promise something, you need to deliver it and they never have.

— staying home stan account (@Convolutedname) August 23, 2020

SCOOP: Trump administration conditioned billions of $$ in coronavirus relief aid for hospitals this spring on reporting to a private vendor, TeleTracking, that bypassed CDC.

Hospitals balked. Leaked emails show one HHS official said: “What a mess.” https://t.co/p6qnUryLzq

— Sheryl Gay Stolberg (@SherylNYT) August 23, 2020

The U.S. is still averaging about 45K new cases per day of Covid, with about 40,000 people hospitalized. But the contribution of new cases is shifting – away from the initial epidemic centers in the NYC region and the second epidemic center in the sunbelt; and to Midwest and West pic.twitter.com/SNsKfy1Kaj

— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) August 23, 2020

APRIL 2020: Trump administration tells 3M it cannot export PPE to Canada, threatening to cut Canada off from a key supplier of N95 masks.

AUGUST 2020: Canadian government subsidizes 3M investment at an Ontario plant.

FUTURE: US exports to Canada fall. 1/https://t.co/hD8J6VtRNg

— Chad P. Bown (@ChadBown) August 24, 2020

This story is well done — and damning. https://t.co/AbBWxHXzWV

— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) August 25, 2020

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It’s increasingly clear that only a minority of the global population — likely only a very tiny sliver — will be able to obtain a coronavirus vaccine in the near term.

The implications of vaccine nationalism may be devastating.

By @DavidLawler10
https://t.co/qJWRa244Tj

— Chad P. Bown (@ChadBown) August 25, 2020

Urgent, broadscale commitment & investment from countries is?to achieve the goal of COVAX to bring the pandemic under control by accelerating the development & manufacture of #COVID19 vaccines, & to guarantee fair & equitable access for all countries?

?https://t.co/CPNzyTjsLz pic.twitter.com/jBupCY7dur

— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) August 24, 2020

China says it began public use of #COVID19 vaccine a month ago, bypassing clinical trials https://t.co/M5TKtBwB9c

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) August 24, 2020

China logs ninth consecutive day with no locally transmitted COVID-19 cases https://t.co/vmpTo1O8K5 pic.twitter.com/ri5NWVYRsk

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 25, 2020

South Korea closes schools and returns to remote learning in Seoul area as the country counts its 12th straight day of triple-digit daily increases in coronavirus cases. https://t.co/aX71nM5iwW

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 25, 2020

India reports more than 60,000 coronavirus cases for a seventh straight day https://t.co/sm4DfDzw9Y pic.twitter.com/xrBAIAqVW4

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 25, 2020

Europe looking awful right now. Danger we will soon overcome the US in daily cases pic.twitter.com/u8YguoJJrs

— Bruno Maçães (@MacaesBruno) August 24, 2020

Trump says US #Covid19 deaths are lower than Europe's.
??https://t.co/97YnNt0LWq pic.twitter.com/mcds3yrUZP

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) August 23, 2020

Germany's confirmed coronavirus cases rise by 1,278 to 234,853: RKI https://t.co/54iD95XD0o pic.twitter.com/oQv0fOkAWZ

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 25, 2020

Australia reaches 25,000 coronavirus cases, officials urge more testing https://t.co/ALGHp2gdLP pic.twitter.com/9ggC0wIQQu

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 25, 2020

Coronavirus: Bali closed to foreign tourists until end of 2020 https://t.co/G3eCempu6d

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) August 25, 2020

Argentina records record number of coronavirus cases and deaths https://t.co/hVzFwBkhjs pic.twitter.com/b3Qfnom1f7

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 25, 2020

Long delays at U.S.-Mexico border crossings after new travel restrictions https://t.co/jPcLzY3b9x pic.twitter.com/noSnpoDCsd

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 25, 2020

UN: Global tourism loses $320bn amid coronavirus pandemic https://t.co/GegpWISOS1 pic.twitter.com/ROawHDpgnb

— Al Jazeera News (@AJENews) August 25, 2020

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The sky is not falling: Scientists in Hong Kong report a what looks like a credible case of #Covid19 reinfection, 4.5 months after first infection.
This is interesting but not unexpected. The man's second infection was symptom-free. @DrewQJoseph reports. https://t.co/Ft6oSqKUjS

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) August 24, 2020

If you're gonna have the first credible claim of reinfection then it seems like pretty good news that the patient was asymptomatic the second time around and developed an immune response quickly. https://t.co/3K5dxqIJrH

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) August 24, 2020

I asked how many whites would have to die of COVID, through all direct and indirect pathways, for white mortality in 2020 to rise to the best level that Black mortality has ever been.

The answer: 400,000.

1/8https://t.co/qb39zsGIDh

— Elizabeth (@ewrigleyfield) August 24, 2020

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GOOD NEWS:
"The 7-day average of #coronavirus deaths dropped below 1,000/day over the weekend for 1st time since late July. Also, the average # of new cases dipped to abt 42,600 as of Sunday, well below its peak in mid-July of around 67,000 daily cases"https://t.co/IcwakiNtL6

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) August 24, 2020

Today, 28 states are now coronavirus #hotspots — based on cases and positivity rates increasing, or meeting specific thresholds.

That means ~64.5% of the U.S. population is living in a hot spot.

Dig into our criteria in the state data dashboard: https://t.co/3ww4dGJLvT pic.twitter.com/TNCNePt8ag

— KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) (@KFF) August 24, 2020

1 in 5 nursing homes are short on PPE in the midst of a #coronavirus rebound in many parts of the U.S. Nursing homes are also faced w/ staff shortages especially in facilities hit hard by #COVID19 https://t.co/FcZyWi6k4u

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) August 25, 2020

The most tragic part of this is that the woman who died as a result of this wedding didn’t even attend it:https://t.co/J2NVbfjkr3

illustrates the moral bankruptcy of arguments that people not at high risk should be able to live their lives as normal and not have to wear masks

— Nurit Baytch (@NuritBaytch) August 23, 2020

South Dakota's Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is over, but public health departments across the U.S. are trying to measure how much the coronavirus spread during the gathering before hundreds of thousands of bikers traveled home. https://t.co/uZJso0J88N

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 24, 2020

… An analysis of anonymous cell phone data from Camber Systems, a firm that aggregates cell phone activity for health researchers, found that 61% of all the counties in the U.S. have been visited by someone who attended Sturgis, creating a travel hub that was comparable to a major U.S. city…

Health departments in four states, including South Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska and Wyoming, have reported a total of 81 cases among people who attended the rally. South Dakota health officials said Monday they had received reports of infections from residents of two other states — North Dakota and Washington. The Department of Health also issued public warnings of possible COVID-19 exposure at five businesses popular with bikers, saying it didn’t know how many people could have been exposed…

… Without a nationally-coordinated testing and tracing system, containing infections in a scenario like Sturgis is “almost impossible,” said Dr. Howard Koh, a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health who worked at the Department of Health and Human Services under former President Barack Obama.

“We would need a finely orchestrated national system and we are far from that,” he said. “We are really witnessing a 50-state effort with all of them going in different directions right now.”…

The smaller (but still dangerously large) Laconia Bike Week is taking place right now. Fortunately, New Hampshire’s governor saw fit to impose at least *some* restrictions (no vendors, limited bar/restaurant capacity, masks ‘required’), so it seems like things are pretty sedate so far. Biggest test will be the final days next weekend…

Not wearing a mask is now a religion pic.twitter.com/bt1F65JhEu

— Benjamin Young Savage (ᐱᓐᒋᐱᓐ) (@benjancewicz) August 24, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Amir Khalid

    August 25, 2020 at 5:52 am

    Malaysia’s daily numbers. 11 new cases. Nine cases from local infection, all Malaysians: five from the Tawar cluster. one detected in pre-surgery screening, one screened upon presenting with symptoms, all in Kedah; one detected in targeted screening in Selangor; one screened on presenting with symptoms of symptom of severe acute respiratory infection in Perlis. Two imported cases, one Malaysian returning from the Philippines, one non-Malaysian returning from Indonesia. Cumulative reported total 9,285 cases.

    Six more patients recovered and were discharged, for a total of 8,971 patients recovered — 96.6% of the cumulative reported total. Active and contagious cases currently being isolated/treated in hospital rose to 189 patients; eight are in ICU, six of them on respirators.

    No new deaths since 31st July. Total remains at 25 deaths — 1.35% of the cumulative reported total, 1.37% of resolved cases.

    In other news, the targeted enhanced movement control order on the area surrounding the epicentre of the Sivagangga cluster, an area encompassing communities in Perlis and Kedah, will be lifted tomorrow, five days earlier than planned. DG of Health Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah explained at his media briefing today that the area’s population have all been screened, with no new cases detected in the past two weeks.

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    August 25, 2020 at 6:09 am

    Thanks for the information

  3. 3.

    YY_Sima Qian

    August 25, 2020 at 6:13 am

    Yesterday, China reported 0 new domestic confirmed cases and 0 new domestic asymptomatic case, for the 4th day in a row.

    In Ürumqi, there are currently 160 confirmed and 49 asymptomatic cases, with 7 cases in serious condition. 23 confirmed cases recovered yesterday and were released from hospitals, 8 asymptomatic cases were released from medical quarantine, 5 serious cases improved to moderate conditions. There are 3,597 close contacts remaining under quarantine and medical observation. Ürumqi is starting to relax the tough restrictions on movement, with all residents of villages and compounds of 3 outlying rural countries, as well as case-free residential compounds of the 6 urban districts, being allowed into common areas of the residential compounds, and grocery and convenience stores in the compounds are allowed to open and sell to the residents within the compounds. The compounds remain under lock down.

    While the Ürumqi’s outbreak, at > 1K total cases (confirmed & asymptomatic), is bigger than those at Beijing/Dalian/Harbin/Mudanjiang/Jilin City, the government response has been much more restrictive, and information release much less transparent. The city went into total lock down very quickly, with all residents in all districts largely restricted to their homes for the past month plus (Wuhan style), rather than the much more targeted measures seen at Beijing and Dalian. Not only that, it appears other cities in Xinjiang (not sure if all cities) also went into lock downs at the same time, which remain in place, despite the fact that only a handful of cases have been exported from Ürumqi to date. These measures seem to be massive overkill relative to the size of the outbreak, with the attendant human and economic toll, and runs against the increasingly flexible and scalable responses elsewhere in China. Of course, Xinjiang has been the region where the CCP regime’s (particularly regional bureaucracy’s) authoritarian inclinations has run amok (even more than Tibet). I can see hints of grumbling on Chinese social media, comparing Xinjiang’s heavy handed response and lack of transparency unfavorably to that of Beijing and Dalian.

    At Dalian in Liaoning Province, 5 cases are currently in the hospital. There are 173 individuals remaining under quarantine.

    Yesterday, China reported 14 new imported confirmed cases, 16 imported asymptomatic cases:

    * Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 4 confirmed and 2 asymptomatic cases, all Chinese nationals returning from Iraq (via Doha)
    * Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 3 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the UAE, South Sudan and Argentina; 2 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the UAE and South Sudan
    * Shenzhen in Guangdong Province – 6 asymptomatic cases, all Chinese nationals returning from Russia
    * Qingyuan in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic cases, a Chinese national returning from the Philippines
    * Shanghai Municipality – 2 confirmed cases, a Chinese national returning from Japan, and an Indian crew member off a cargo ship
    * Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 2 confirmed cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Tajikistan
    * Tianjin Municipality – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Filipino crew member off a cargo ship; 1 asymptomatic case, no information released
    * Shijiazhuang in Hebei Province – 1 confirmed and 1 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    * Dalian in Liaoning Province – 1 confirmed case, a Filipino crew member off a cargo ship
    * Xiamen in Fujian Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the US and the Philippines
    * Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 1 asymptomatic case, no information released

    Today, Hong Kong reported 9 new cases, 7 from local transmission, the first time new case count is single digits. Hong Kong University study also reported the first confirmed case of reinfection in the world. A 33 years old man was was diagnosed with COVID-19 in mid-Mar., and was discharged in Apr. He traveled to the UK and Spain in early Aug., and tested positive on re-entry into Hong Kong. Genomic analysis showed that the infections from Mar. and Aug. are two different strains, and with the current infection from a strain that is currently prevalent in Europe, and now the one that was prevalent in Hong Kong in Mar. The man probably thought having recovered from COVID-19 guarantees immunity, and thus would be safe to travel to Europe.

  4. 4.

    gkoutnik

    August 25, 2020 at 6:40 am

    So reinfection (n=1) did not cause symptomatic disease.  Do we know if the reinfected person was infectious?  Could others get it from him while he had it the second time

    As usual, AL – thanks for all you do.

  5. 5.

    TS (the original)

    August 25, 2020 at 6:48 am

    Thank you AL. I just wish more of those who voted for trump could see & understand what he does to everybody. That 57% of his party accept the pandemic deaths says so much about what trump is and how he gets support.

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    satby

    August 25, 2020 at 7:14 am

    Ironic that the people who think religious exemptions allow their businesses to refuse service to other people also think that religious exemptions will force businesses to serve them.

    I’m actively rooting for those assholes to get it now.

  7. 7.

    ET

    August 25, 2020 at 7:45 am

    My alma mater the University of Alabama is reporting more than 500 confirmed COVID cases. The city announced bars are closed for 2 weeks and bar service at restaurants must stop. They have been back like a week? They were having problems with the guidelines less that 72 hours after students went back to campus.  This can’t come as any sort of surprise.

  8. 8.

    Robert Sneddon

    August 25, 2020 at 7:49 am

    Scotland — no new deaths of confirmed cases reported overnight, 44 new cases which is down even from the weekend figures. The Aberdeen outbreak seems to have been contained and only two of the new cases are reported there. A decision whether to lift or further modify the city-wide lockdown will be taken tomorrow.

    The number of confirmed cases originating from the food production plant outbreak in Coupar Angus has now reached 152 and is expected to increase but there doesn’t seem to have been wider community transmission — all the cases are either workers at the plant or immediate contacts, no tertiary infections have been confirmed outside that group.

    There’s been a big increase in demand for COVID-19 testing in Scotland, probably linked to the re-opening of schools. The online test booking system is glitching, offering some people appointments at centres hundreds of miles away or even across the border in England. These issues are being worked on, according to the government. Extra mobile testing units are being deployed, aimed at outbreaks and hotspots as they appear. They will add another 1200 tests a day capacity.

    Schools in Scotland will require pupils to wear masks at school in corridors and communal areas but, at the moment, not in classrooms. This edict goes into effect next Monday.

  9. 9.

    AM in NC

    August 25, 2020 at 8:08 am

    I will not serve customers with a “religious exemption” in my stores. I’ll offer to bring their items out to them so they can still get what they want, but I will not let them inside to endanger my employees and other shoppers. They can sue me if they have a problem. Their delicate MAGA fee fees are not more important than everyone else’s health/life. It’s just childish bullshit. Show me where in their sacred texts mask-wearing is forbidden as some central tenet of the religion.

  10. 10.

    Another Scott

    August 25, 2020 at 8:24 am

    I’m wondering how much we should trust the US numbers now given:

    • The hot spots are in areas with GOP leadership that wants to minimize the reported seriousness of the problem
    • The transfer to HHS has been bungled as expected
    • There’s been talk of sending the reporting for numbers back to CDC after they “upgrade” their system

    We *should* be getting better, even in GOP areas.  But are we?

    Grrr…

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  11. 11.

    different-church-lady

    August 25, 2020 at 8:55 am

    “It’s been an incredible experience for me,” President Trump says, of being president. “It’s been an incredible experience, I think, for everyone.”

    Well, I can certainly say it’s put a deep strain on my credulity, yes.

  12. 12.

    YY_Sima Qian

    August 25, 2020 at 9:50 am

    @Another Scott: I am struggling to see what exact measures TX and FL and AZ took to reduce Rt to < 1. Experience at Hong Kong and Japan do seem to suggest that even modest distancing measures and collective action (such universal masking), couple with a large percentage of the population taking matter into their own hands and self-isolate, can reduce Rt to < 1. However, such modest measures are not likely to fully suppress the epidemic. If any location stays at a relatively high base of dozens or low hundreds of cases per day, as soon as the distancing measures are relaxed and the population becomes more complacent, exponent growth returns. When the starting point is low hundreds of cases per day (as opposed to low single digits), it does not take long before the epidemic reaches thousands of cases a day again.

    There is a reason why China, New Zealand and Vietnam (and I think Australis is still trying) to going for full eradication in response to each new outbreak. They want to reset the clock as close to zero as possible. One can attempt to maintain and sustain infection rate of low hundreds of cases per day, and try to keep the lid on COVID-19 via combination of TTI and distancing restrictions, but that is a delicate balance and requires sustained vigilance by both the authorities and the population, for the long haul. Europe is proving how challenging that is.

  13. 13.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 25, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @AM in NC: Religious exemptions now?  Jesus fucking Christ!  These assholes really want to meet their maker sooner than later, don’t they?

    ETA – at least they could be honest and wear a “Punch my face.  I’m a selfish asshole.” sign in public.

  14. 14.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    August 25, 2020 at 10:31 am

    I can’t watch the convention, as it makes me sick. Grigori and I have seen “Triumph of the Will” too often. We might just  settle in and watch “Titanic” again to cheer ourselves up.

    Pass the vodka.

  15. 15.

    Victor Matheson

    August 25, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @AM in NC: If the pastor at my church tried to pull some shit like issuing these badges (which, to be fair, he wouldn’t try in a million years), it would a very unpleasant conversation the next time I saw him. The good news is is that conversation would be over zoom, limiting the chance that I would end up punching him in the nose.

  16. 16.

    different-church-lady

    August 25, 2020 at 11:01 am

    @AM in NC: “If God told you you didn’t have to wear a mask, it must be because He wants to see you in person sometime soon.”

  17. 17.

    Johnny Gentle (famous crooner)

    August 25, 2020 at 11:38 am

    I’m surprised republicans haven’t gone national with that “masks infringe on my religious liberty” bullshit. It combines the two things they love best: purposely refusing to abide by COVID-19 safety measures, and constant whining about imaginary religious victimization. I guess it’s only a matter of time.

  18. 18.

    Ruckus

    August 25, 2020 at 11:39 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Look at the card she’s wearing in the tweet above. I believe if you read that correctly, the translation says exactly that. At the very least she is asking for something that reeks of special privilege – and I don’t believe she should be denied.

  19. 19.

    dnfree

    August 25, 2020 at 11:42 am

    So it’s less cumbersome to wear that notification on a lanyard and argue with everyone than to just wear a mask?  Heck of a religion.

  20. 20.

    Ruckus

    August 25, 2020 at 11:45 am

    @different-church-lady:

    My religion says that if you aren’t wearing a mask I get use your face to wipe the floor.

  21. 21.

    Citizen Alan

    August 25, 2020 at 11:48 am

    Ironically, I would find it acceptable if 57% of Republicans got Covid-19 and died from it. I’d prefer more of them, but 57% would be an acceptable number.

  22. 22.

    chopper

    August 25, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    @AM in NC:

    you could always say it’s your deeply held religious belief that people wear fucking masks and shove a copy of the hobby lobby decision in their face.

  23. 23.

    The Moar You Know

    August 25, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    Do we know if the reinfected person was infectious?  Could others get it from him while he had it the second time

    @gkoutnik:  Yes, that person would be infectious.  The victim had the virus.  It just wasn’t causing any harm….to him.

  24. 24.

    The Moar You Know

    August 25, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    Religious exemptions now?  Jesus fucking Christ!  These assholes really want to meet their maker sooner than later, don’t they?

    @mrmoshpotato:  That’s not what they want at all.  They want to kill all the unfaithful.  They, being faithful, cannot get the virus.

    (they really believe this)

  25. 25.

    Bill Arnold

    August 25, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    @AM in NC:
    Well, there’s Moses, who wore a veil so as to not expose the Israelites to the radiant glow of melding/being with (/channeling/hosting/avataring) a divine. This is technically known as “source control”. He took the veil off to go inside, but he was the lone human breathing inside so that was OK.
    Exodus 34:33-35

    33 When Moses finished speaking to them, he put a veil over his face. 34 But whenever he entered the Lord’s presence to speak with him, he removed the veil until he came out. And when he came out and told the Israelites what he had been commanded, 35 they saw that his face was radiant. Then Moses would put the veil back over his face until he went in to speak with the Lord.

  26. 26.

    Just Chuck

    August 25, 2020 at 12:55 pm

    I doubt that little placard would fly in Colorado.  You refuse to wear a mask, you get prosecuted.  There’s a reason that hotspot map has CO in grey.

  27. 27.

    Another Scott

    August 25, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    @The Moar You Know: No, we don’t know that that person was shedding virus and infectious.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/kakape/status/1298038827265687558

    HTH.

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  28. 28.

    cain

    August 25, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    @AM in NC: Religious exemptions now?  Jesus fucking Christ!  These assholes really want to meet their maker sooner than later, don’t they?

    I fail to see the exception – it is a virus – it is a public health issue. I don’t see how it stops them from worshipping or plying their faith at all to wear a mask. Even more bizarre they can’t check temperature either or any other signs of the virus?

    Yeah, they end up in a hospital – lets make sure they follow that to the letter – no medical needed. Just quarantine and that’s it.

  29. 29.

    Splitting Image

    August 25, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    @cain: 

    I fail to see the exception – it is a virus – it is a public health issue. I don’t see how it stops them from worshipping or plying their faith at all to wear a mask.

    The core principle of their faith is “You are not the boss of me.”

    Making them do anything they don’t wanna do is preventing them from plying their faith.

  30. 30.

    lgerard

    August 25, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    Those “religious exemption” things are pedaled by Peggy Hall (her pastor husband signs them) ,the self styled “Healthy American”.

    Her You tube channel is full of commenters with bizarre theories and obsessions ranging from the NWO to old favorites like MK-ULTRA. They are both funny and scary.

    And very dangerous

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