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You are here: Home / Garden Chats / Sunday Morning Garden Chat: Pacific Northwest Bounty, Part 2

Sunday Morning Garden Chat: Pacific Northwest Bounty, Part 2

by Anne Laurie|  August 30, 20206:03 am| 96 Comments

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Following on from master gardener / correspondent OpieJeanne‘s post last week:

We built a trellis to grow pumpkins vertically, and now the bigger ones are stylishly clothed in pantyhose.

Canteloupe

Canteloupe in pantyhose

Musque de Provence

Cinderella pumpkin

Marina di Chioggia

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What’s going on in your garden(s), this week?

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  1. 1.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 30, 2020 at 6:24 am

    Pantyhose pumpkins!

  2. 2.

    Baud

    August 30, 2020 at 6:28 am

    Very pretty.

  3. 3.

    rikyrah

    August 30, 2020 at 6:51 am

    Good Morning, Everyone???

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    August 30, 2020 at 6:52 am

    Beautiful pictures?

  5. 5.

    Lapassionara

    August 30, 2020 at 6:54 am

    Love this idea! Great photos!

  6. 6.

    Baud

    August 30, 2020 at 6:55 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 6:56 am

    I’ve tried a couple different trellises for various winter squashes and was never really happy with any of them. This one is far more open. I’m tempted to give it a try next year.

  8. 8.

    satby

    August 30, 2020 at 6:56 am

    What a brilliant idea to support and protect them! I never would have thought of that. Haven’t with pantyhose in probably 20 years either ?

  9. 9.

    Paul in St. Augustine

    August 30, 2020 at 7:01 am

    I’ll ask. Why pantyhose?

  10. 10.

    raven

    August 30, 2020 at 7:09 am

    Sweet!

  11. 11.

    satby

    August 30, 2020 at 7:11 am

    @Paul in St. Augustine: Assuming because they stretch so don’t impede the growth of the squash, and because they’re strong, so when tied to the trellis can hold the heavier squash up.

  12. 12.

    satby

    August 30, 2020 at 7:15 am

    I just want to thank everyone who kicked in on last night’s thread to help our rescue’s kitten Sammy. He’s not out of the woods, but if he doesn’t develop an infection he should make it. And we’ll be very sure his life will be filled with nothing but love from here on. Thank you all!

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 7:22 am

    @satby: Yes. I’ve used mesh bags and fishing nets in the past too.

  14. 14.

    Digger

    August 30, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Gives new meaning to the term support hose.  ;-)

  15. 15.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @Digger: Heh.

  16. 16.

    MazeDancer

    August 30, 2020 at 7:50 am

    Inventive and pretty. Hard to beat.

  17. 17.

    Jeffery

    August 30, 2020 at 7:50 am

    I have one pumpkin this year. I didn’t plant it. Either the squirrels or bluejays took the seeds from the compost pile last fall and planted them around the yard. I mowed down a number of them in the grass. Left one that was not in the way next to the patio.

  18. 18.

    germy

    August 30, 2020 at 8:09 am

    We were glad to see Soul Fire Farm get some national recognition:

    One farmer is using her farm to fight against racial injustice, health disparities and inequalities in the food system.

    @errolbarnett spoke to activist Leah Penniman about how @soulfirefarm is helping families eat healthier and opening doors for the next generation of farmers. pic.twitter.com/r7YxblsoKR— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) August 20, 202

    I highly recommend Leah Penniman’s book, in the link below:

    https://www.soulfirefarm.org/

  19. 19.

    MomSense

    August 30, 2020 at 8:09 am

    Very cool!

  20. 20.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 8:12 am

    @Jeffery: I’ve got the same thing going in one of the flower beds along side the walkway. I figure it came in with the compost.

  21. 21.

    debbie

    August 30, 2020 at 8:26 am

    Does the pantyhose keep the hungry critters away?

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 8:35 am

    @debbie: No.

  23. 23.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 8:42 am

    Melons.  It is time for melons.  Yum.

    My tomatoes are still coming in, but the critters have prevented all my peppers from growing. And most of my tomatillo.  I just didn’t have time to put up proper fencing.  Ah well, next year!

  24. 24.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 8:55 am

    @Immanentize: I’ve been eating a melon every morn for about a week now. Yesterday’s was a little off, not bad but not good. Sigh… Speaking of which, time for breakfast!

  25. 25.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: No melon for me ?

    But it is breakfast time if my cat ever moves off my chest.

  26. 26.

    satby

    August 30, 2020 at 9:14 am

    Not garden related, but Banksy’s latest project is very cool.

  27. 27.

    germy

    August 30, 2020 at 9:18 am

    Our vegetable garden is mostly an all you can eat buffet for rabbits and squirrels.  They visit and then they return with their friends.

    But we’ve got some vegetables in hanging pots they can’t reach.  And a tall climbing string bean bush they haven’t touched.  And callaloo which doesn’t seem to interest them.

    This has been a good growing season overall for us.  Heavy downpours followed by intense bright sun.

  28. 28.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 9:36 am

    The veggie garden is closing in on the end here. Tomatoes are done, it was an OK year for them. A very disappointing year for sweet peppers. I only planted 3 types of hot peppers, jalapeno, poblano, and 2 New Mexico that were new to me. Got enough to satisfy my jonesing for stuffed jalapenos, plenty of poblanos to fill my ancho needs, and nothing from the NewMex. I’ll try them again next year. Still getting eggplant but I can tell the end is near. Picked a bunch of dried tiger’s eye pinto beans for shelling and there are more to come.

    The one unalloyed good news is the return of squash to the veggie garden. I mentioned last week that I didn’t plant them until the first week of July to avoid the curse of squash bugs and it worked like a charm. The plants are thriving and bug free. After 2 years without Romanesco zukes I couldn’t be happier. Next year I will once again dedicate a fair amount of the garden to a crop of winter squashes. I am not sure how they will do with such a late start but we will see.

  29. 29.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 30, 2020 at 9:37 am

    It’s a beautiful morning. Sunny with temperature around 60.

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Were the New Mexico supposed to be basically Hatch peppers?

    I got two or three hatch peppers from the organic guy at the market – where I always get my veggie starter plants – but they accidentally gave me two cayenne pepper plants.  Boo.  I grew those one year and decided not to grow cayenne peppers again.

    Like you, high hopes for the hatch peppers next year!

  31. 31.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 30, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Mmmmm….. stuffed jalapenos.

  32. 32.

    StringOnAStick

    August 30, 2020 at 10:02 am

    I can tell the end of season is coming just by how the cucumbers are looking even though the days are still hot.  Yesterday was the first obvious hint of fall.

    Planting in self watering planters means I can plant earlier but it’s just not as good as in the ground with the complexity true soil gives with the soil microbes; potting soil/container mix ain’t real soil no matter what they claim.  There’s no other way to grow veggies at this house; I’m hoping our moving plans mean we’ll find a place with better options.

  33. 33.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:19 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: @WaterGirl:

    I really recommend Anaheim Chilis. Less fussy than actual NM Chili’s especially in non&New Mexico climates (like everywhere but the high desert).
    Not quite so hot as Hatch (which is more a place than a variety, but people gotta make cash!) But hot enough and just large enough for relleno use. I am not really a poblano relleno fan, I like the Anaheims better.

  34. 34.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:20 am

    ugh!!  My washing machine is not working!!!!  Glad this happened after the Immp launched

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 10:23 am

    @WaterGirl: I looked it up: NuMex Joe E Parker from Renee’s.

    @mrmoshpotato: Cream cheese mixed with shredded cheddar to fill the half, then wrapped with bacon. Mmmm, mmmm!

  36. 36.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 30, 2020 at 10:25 am

    @Immanentize: I’ve grown Anaheims before. Just wanted to try something new, like I do every year.

  37. 37.

    Spanky

    August 30, 2020 at 10:26 am

    @Immanentize: Our dishwasher crapped out on August 3. Earliest a repair guy could get here was August 10. Diagnosis was to replace the pump unit in the bottom. Basically the whole unit for about $400. Part is still on backorder.

    Now for washing machines, ours crap out after 4 or 5 years when the control electronics go. Had any close lightning strikes lately?

    More on topic, I used panty hose to cradle melons back in the 80s. Not inside the hose, but more as a sling. Worked ok, but the cutworms made the experiment moot.

  38. 38.

    MomSense

    August 30, 2020 at 10:29 am

    We had an interesting thing happen with our community garden this past week.  I was so busy I missed the email discussion until after it was resolved.  Apparently some kids in the next neighborhood picked some pumpkins and squash and other veggies from our garden and brought them home.  Mom was mortified so she contacted the leader of our group and told him what happened, that the kids would return the veggies and she expected us to do something to punish the kids.  So Doug asked her to send them over.  He reported that the kids saw the community garden sign and thought that meant it was for everyone.  Doug asked them if they enjoyed being in the garden and they said they did.  So he asked them if they would like to spend some time in the garden, help with some weeding and maybe turn the compost with him.  They said they would love to help.  So he emailed the garden group and explained the situation.  Well these beautiful people asked Doug to offer the kids a raised bed for next summer and decided we would cover the cost, buy the supplies, and help them learn about gardening.  The kids were really happy about this and have continued to help weed and care for the garden areas.  Our little garden is a very happy and peaceful place.  

  39. 39.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:30 am

    @Spanky: No close strike for a couple of months (when the daughter board of my receiver was blown out).  But the machine — which we have loved — is about 6 years old.  It does what it was built to do — washes clothes.  Even if it has fancy pants settings.

    I’ll call the repair people tomorrow.  Cost of visit alone? 85 balloons.

  40. 40.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:32 am

    @MomSense: That made me year up a bit.  Amazing what asking questions does versus yelling.

  41. 41.

    MagdaInBlack

    August 30, 2020 at 10:35 am

    @MomSense:

    That story just made my morning. Thank You !

  42. 42.

    Spanky

    August 30, 2020 at 10:37 am

    @Immanentize: A bargain. Cost of showing up here was $99. Waived once we were on the hook for $$$$ part.

  43. 43.

    FelonyGovt

    August 30, 2020 at 10:37 am

    @MomSense: That’s wonderful. I hope the kids’ parents were satisfied with the resolution.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: The pictures look great!  Too bad we can’t eat the photos.  :-)

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 10:40 am

    @Immanentize: I do have two Anaheim pepper plants that I got from a friend who grew them from seed – I was hedging my bets because I wasn’t sure whether there would be a way to buy from the organic guy because of covid.

    Those are not as far along as the ones I got from the organic guy, but hopefully I will be eating them soon.  There are about 10 peppers in various stages.  Do you pick your annaheim’s when they are green or red?

  46. 46.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:41 am

    @Immanentize: year = tear.  Bad phone typing morning.

    ETA. Off to mow the yard.

  47. 47.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:43 am

    @WaterGirl:

    Do you pick your annaheim’s when they are green or red?

    Yes. Both.
    The green ones tend to be a bit meatier and better for stuffing. The red ones for sauces (a little sweeter, but they don’t lose too much heat).

  48. 48.

    Immanentize

    August 30, 2020 at 10:44 am

    @Spanky: That’s the trick.  Here the cost of the call sticks.

  49. 49.

    debbie

    August 30, 2020 at 10:45 am

    @MomSense:

    Lovely!

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 10:45 am

    @MomSense: I got goosebumps about halfway through reading your story.  How wonderful.

  51. 51.

    MazeDancer

    August 30, 2020 at 10:46 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Growing Hatch Chile outside NM can’t be done. Certainly, if anyone can do it, you can.

    Have asked farmer’s at Farmer’s Markets if possible with greenhouses creating big heat all Summer. Or something. Nope.

    Apparently, one needs the relentless sun and cool nights of NM.

    But best of luck.

  52. 52.

    WereBear

    August 30, 2020 at 10:48 am

    @MomSense: That’s what I call Handling Things like a Democrat should :)

  53. 53.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 30, 2020 at 10:49 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    then wrapped with bacon 

    Yes!

  54. 54.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 30, 2020 at 10:53 am

    @WaterGirl:

    The pictures look great!  Too bad we can’t eat the photos.  :-)

    Technically if you print them…

  55. 55.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 30, 2020 at 10:53 am

    @MomSense: Great story. People acting well all the way around.

  56. 56.

    Juice Box

    August 30, 2020 at 10:54 am

    Nice trellis!

    I live in a cool summer climate and I’ve never been able to grow melons. This year, despite a foggy summer, I got melons! They were good too and the vine was powdery mildew-free when I pulled it up yesterday. I may need to build my own trellis next year.

  57. 57.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 30, 2020 at 10:56 am

    @WereBear:

    That’s what I call Handling Things like a Democrat should :) 

    We’re still having Nuremberg trials for others.  Don’t mess with our garden of democracy, you Soviet shitpile mobster crime family.

  58. 58.

    Geminid

    August 30, 2020 at 10:57 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Thanks for your garden report. I read your “Woofmeister” post, and I gotta say that was some fine writing. A good story, well told.

  59. 59.

    MomSense

    August 30, 2020 at 10:58 am

    Thanks, everyone.  Doug is a really special person.  I can’t wait for the kids to find out he builds an igloo every winter.

  60. 60.

    catclub

    August 30, 2020 at 11:16 am

    @Paul in St. Augustine: I’ll ask. Why pantyhose?

     

    stockings need a garter belt. duh

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 11:18 am

    @Geminid: It really was!

    Here’s a link in case you missed Ozark’s wonderful post about the Woofmeister and friends.

    https://balloon-juice.com/2020/08/25/furry-friends-ozarkhillbilly/

    Plus, you can find all the Furry Friends posts in the sidebar under Featuring.

  62. 62.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 11:19 am

    @catclub: Actually, a garter belt would be perfect for hanging on that trellis!

  63. 63.

    catclub

    August 30, 2020 at 11:20 am

    @WaterGirl: I surrender

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 11:24 am

    @catclub: I would love to see a photo of that trellis with stockings and garter belts.  Next year!

  65. 65.

    BigJimSlade

    August 30, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Regarding the pantyhose, are they sheer or control top? ;-)

  66. 66.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 30, 2020 at 11:32 am

    @MomSense:

    I love this story. Humanity isn’t doomed after all, not by a long shot.

  67. 67.

    cain

    August 30, 2020 at 11:36 am

    I’m embarrassed to show my garden. I planted my tomato plants but didn’t put a trellis in time and it’s all over the place. Now it looks like a nest of snarls and vines. Meh.

  68. 68.

    debbie

    August 30, 2020 at 11:39 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I am contrasting Momsense’s story with the battle raging on a FB community group I belong to. One mother of bi-racial  children (one of whom was caught spraying graffiti on a local’s patio) begged everyone to call the police if it happened again rather than posting a photo on FB and trying to find her that way. Needless to say, you can imagine the reactions of the other parents of bi-racial and African-American children. Just as it starts calming down, someone else sets someone off all over again

    Some community, huh?

  69. 69.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 11:39 am

    We’re so sad. We just said goodbye to our incredible minister on Zoom. We feel adrift. We won’t see another one like her.

  70. 70.

    CaseyL

    August 30, 2020 at 11:40 am

    @MomSense: Thank you! – what a lovey, hopeful story to start the day with.  Truly putting “community” into community garden.

  71. 71.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 11:40 am

    Okay, now I’m getting the “duplicate” message, like satby

    ETA: Chrome, macbook pro.

  72. 72.

    scav

    August 30, 2020 at 11:46 am

    @cain: Well here. I didn’t cage my tomatoes (the little gold ones) either, nor did I trim them back, so they’re entirely flopping about and somehow producing my best crop so far. Which must be attributed entirely to the weather as my watering efforts are unchanged, Tomatoes — at least some of them — seem to be whimsical and entirely indifferent to our efforts (except when they deign to play with our little minds).

    Other update? I’m drying storage onions,

  73. 73.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 30, 2020 at 11:53 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    You’re not in Collingwood, Ontario, are you? Because a friend there is feeling bereft, saying farewell to his incredible minister (also a woman).

  74. 74.

    scav

    August 30, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    @scav: O Those little #&$@$%s!! Just remembered I couldn’t even plant them in good soil because of lockdown. It was just year old cheap standard potting stuff!

  75. 75.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    No, Connecticut.

  76. 76.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 30, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Was pretty sure you weren’t Canadian, but just enough of a coincidence that I had to check.

  77. 77.

    KSinMA

    August 30, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    @MomSense: Wow!

  78. 78.

    Paul in St. Augustine

    August 30, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    @satby:

    Thanks, makes sense.

  79. 79.

    cain

    August 30, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    @scav:

    I’m not trying to let them touch the ground because it’s rotting the tomato when it touches the earth. :(

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @zhena gogolia: That is sad.  Where is your minister going?  Why leaving?

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Hmmm.  Your comment posted, though, right?

  82. 82.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 1:11 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Yes, it posted after telling me it was a duplicate.

  83. 83.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Going to Madison, WI. She got together with another minister and they couldn’t both find jobs near here.

  84. 84.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    The conference minister came to our Zoom after seeing another minister off, so I think this is a big time for them to make their moves.

  85. 85.

    MomSense

    August 30, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    My son’s fiancée is the music director at a small church in CT. Her hours were reduced and last time we talked she said she wasn’t sure what would happen with the minister.  The church’s funding has been affected significantly.

  86. 86.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    @MomSense:

    Yes, this is very concerning. We just did a capital campaign, so I think we’re still floating on that. But now without our charismatic minister, I’m not sure what’s going to happen. The UCC has this outmoded system where you have to coast with an interim minister for 1.5-2 years — it causes stagnation and loss of membership, even without Covid. After 352 years, I’m not sure we’ll survive it.

  87. 87.

    opiejeanne

    August 30, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    We should have built the trellis first and then planted the pumpkins, and next year we will do that, and plant them on the outside of the trellis. We are adding horizontal bars where needed to add platforms instead of the pantyhose.

    I had to assist the plants in twining by tying string to the upper bars and draping them around the vines while holding them off the ground. I did the same with the tomato I decided to grow inside the greenhouse. The thing is a 10 foot monster covered with green tomatoes.

  88. 88.

    opiejeanne

    August 30, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: All of the larger pumpkins have been freed of their pantyhose and are resting comfortably on shelves. The little melons are still wearing parts of the stockings. I started wondering if they would interfere with ripening.

  89. 89.

    opiejeanne

    August 30, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    @satby: I had to order some cheap ones on Amazon. I think I spent $4 for 4.

  90. 90.

    opiejeanne

    August 30, 2020 at 1:28 pm

    @Paul in St. Augustine: Why pantyhose? Because I didn’t have any fishnet stockings. That’s a serious answer.

    also, I started with one of those mesh bags you buy lemons in but it became brittle and tore after a couple of weeks in the sun.

  91. 91.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Hmm.  Trying to understand the order of things…

    You pressed Post Comment, and then it came up with the duplicate message error, correct?  But the comment you posted was already there?  Or did you have to refresh the page to see your comment?

  92. 92.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    @zhena gogolia: That is hard, and sad.

  93. 93.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I pressed “Post” and got the duplicate message and a lot of pinwheeling. Then I reopened the page and my comment was there. It’s happened before, on and off.

  94. 94.

    zhena gogolia

    August 30, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I think the job she got is better than this one — two ministers rather than one. Our church just won’t pony up to pay for two. It’s hard on the minister to be the only one. We had two when I joined this church, and it was much better for them.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    August 30, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Good for her, then.  I get why so many churches do the interim thing – many churches are a cesspool of feuding petty resentments and I guess they figure the interim situation will let that stuff get sorted out before someone permanent comes in. but yeah, it’s not always a good thing.  especially in these times when so much is in limbo, you don’t want that at church, too.

  96. 96.

    Jay Noble

    August 30, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    Being good old Missouri Synod Lutherans, we never had  more than one minister at a time. Much of the time the minister had 2 church to attend to. May be why they have a nice smattering of female ministers these days.

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