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Hey Washington Post, “Democracy Dies in Darkness” was supposed to be a warning, not a mission statement.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

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Tuesday Evening Open Thread: National Poll Worker Recruitment Day

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I didn’t realize some states allow even teenagers to participate! At CNN, Jonathan Diaz on “Why you should be a poll worker this year”:

… [I]n the many jurisdictions offering early in-person voting for days or weeks prior to Election Day, the need for volunteers is even greater. Public health and elections experts are increasingly urging voters to take advantage of early options to reduce crowding on Election Day, but to make that happen, America needs more poll workers…

In response to this impending crisis, elections officials have turned to unusual methods to recruit volunteers. Gov. Tony Evers of Wisconsin authorized members of the Wisconsin National Guard to work the polls this fall. The Ohio Supreme Court, with support from Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, is allowing attorneys licensed in the state to receive Continuing Legal Education (CLE) credit for working the polls — a call that has been echoed nationwide by the American Bar Association. The Tennessee Legislature lowered the minimum age to work the polls from 17 to 16 earlier this year, and Kentucky and California have set up new online portals to facilitate poll worker recruitment.

Voting advocates and nonprofit organizations have also stepped up to boost recruitment efforts. New organizations like Power the Polls and the LeBron James-led More Than a Vote are seeking to complement ongoing efforts by groups like the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and All Voting is Local (the latter of which I provide legal advice to in my capacity at the Campaign Legal Center) to add new names to the poll worker ranks. Many of these groups are focusing their efforts on bringing young people aboard to pick up the slack for older, vulnerable workers unable to participate this year. These outreach initiatives include Poll Hero, which was started by a group of college and high school students.

Becoming a poll worker isn’t difficult. The eligibility requirements and time commitments vary depending on where you live, but your state and county election officials should have all the information that you need to be able to sign up, and the EAC and Work Elections (a project of the nonprofit Fair Elections Center) have created a helpful online tool to help figure it out…

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  2. 2.

    StringOnAStick

    I’m in a all vote by mail state, but there are still polling stations for people who prefer it. I signed up today to be a volunteer.

  3. 3.

    Japa21

    Not difficult at all until you get some ass who considers having to wait 20 minutes to vote to be voter suppression.  Why, yes, I am a poll worker in a mostly white areas.

  7. 7.

    Dagaetch

    I’m in MA, where it…doesn’t matter all that much. Can I be an out of state poll worker anywhere?

  8. 8.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    Since it’s an open thread, I’ll mention that I e-mailed a journalist a polite letter saying that their reporting on Republican acceptance of the President in a way that makes their dereliction of duty seem perfectly reasonable, and not acceptable, but “c’mon, what c’we do?”

    I explained that the President, in fact, has a *positive* duty to see that the laws are faithfully executed, and the Republican willingness to sit by while the President orders wholesale breaking of the Hatch Act, violating the letter and spirit of his oath of office, means that they are clearly putting personal, or party interests, against the good of America.

    And there ought to be some way of pointing out that any high school Civics/Social Studies student could, under a Socratic style of questioning, realize that this makes the Republican congressional caucus entirely corrupt. All you have to do is stop for a few minutes, forget all the spin, forget the political environment we’ve all gotten too, too, used to, and think. Office holders are there to serve the people, not themselves, and not their political parties. (Yes, some of their actions will support themselves, and their parties – but the intent is to serve (We,) the people of the United States primarily, with benefits to themselves, and their parties, as a “lucky” side effect.)

    I don’t think I actually said “this shows the Republican Party has abdicated all responsibility”; I believe I left that as an exercise for the “student” – by which I mean, “poor, put-upon journalist getting mailed from some weirdo on the internet”.

  9. 9.

    catclub

    @miroker: yeah, requiring a cell phone to call headquarters is kind of like requiring a car for some jobs back in the day (yesterday at uber)

  11. 11.

    Mike in NC

    It took me about 30 seconds to fill out the form to volunteer to be a poll worker in my county.

  12. 12.

    bbleh

    Signed up to be a poll worker in PA!

    And I gotta say, I have NEVER seen this level of recruitment and activism among Dems in … well, the entire 40+ years I’ve been voting.  If this is any indication, it’s a cause for optimism.

    (Adding for those prone to getting their panties in a bunch, yes yes, poll workers are nonpartisan, the training organization is nonpartisan, yada yada.  Of course.)

  13. 13.

    Yutsano

    @Baud:  Are we getting all meta again?

    Whoever is in charge of the Biden/Harris digital media team is a fucking genius for thinking of this. And they made Kamala and Joe hecking cute!

    EDIT: on the subject of the post: all mail in state. Unfortunately I’m not close enough to Idaho to help.

  15. 15.

    Gin & Tonic

    My son signed up today in my little town. I’m pretty sure he will be the only poll worker here who has also been an OSCE-accredited election observer, twice.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    I hope this helps them get enough poll workers.  The Pod Save America guys are recruiting pretty hard for poll workers, too.

    Poll Hero is item #87 on the “What We Can Do” list that’s in the sidebar under the Election Action! heading.

    Lots of good options on that list if you are looking to do something to help elect Joe & Kamala.

  19. 19.

    Jeffro

    I have a feeling we’re pretty well covered here in central VA already, but I’m still going to check out the site and see if they need anyone.

  20. 20.

    Ken

    @bbleh: poll workers are nonpartisan, the training organization is nonpartisan, yada yada

    Truly non-partisan, or trust-but-verify non-partisan?  In Missouri (where my parents used to volunteer, but not this year) they require both Democratic and Republican workers at each site.

  22. 22.

    lamh36

    Evening BJ!

    Update on the Houston job front.
    Heard from HR and they made me an salary offer than I was happy to accept.  The amount offerred is what I hoped and closer to the avg amount for the Houston area, and someone with my experience, or lack thereof, of supervisory experience.  Not only that, but in lieu of sign on bonus, they are offerring me a relocation “bonus” package, which includes a consulataion with a national relocation management company and flexible expenses paid by the company up to a certain amount.  I’m looking over the relocation package document as we speak (26 pages!!!)

    I wanted to give a 2weeks notice, with a transfer date round the last week of Sept, but since it is a transfer position, the Lab Director/Supervisor can ask for a longer resignation time.  HR reached out to the Lab Director, and she said she needed me at least another business, so that’s a little over 2weeks.  Which means my official transfer date will be 1st Sunday in October!

    I’m very happy about the relocation bonus, its makes apt shopping much easier!

    Onward and upward!

  23. 23.

    phein61

    @WaterGirl:   I’m giving it some serious thought.   I’ve got a ton of use-or-lose leave, and at 61, I’d be one of the younger election judges.  I’d like to support Aaron Ammons, the Democratic county clerk. First Democrat to control elections here since at least 1970, so maybe there won’t be “surprise” ballot shortages on campus or the north side.   Either that, or give rides to the polls.

  26. 26.

    Patricia Kayden

    Raise your hand if you agree that Donald Trump should be obligated to release the medical records from his Walter Reed visits ✋— A Worried Citizen (@ThePubliusUSA) September 1, 2020

  27. 27.

    trollhattan

    Trump’s DOJ at work.

    Hacked documents suggest that the FBI is concerned some people may be using Ring or other smart doorbells to watch the police.

    The papers describe a 2017 incident where someone remotely watched live footage of police preparing to serve a search warrant.

    The information was found online by The Intercept among hacked documents.

    Previously, privacy advocates have raised concerns about data from smart doorbells being shared with police.

    The hacked papers, known collectively as BlueLeaks, were stolen from more than 250 police websites.

    The document in question is a technical analysis bulletin, offering an overview of the opportunities and challenges for police from home security systems and smart doorbells.

    The 2017 incident describes how someone under investigation was able to “covertly monitor law enforcement activity while law enforcement was on the premises” and alert his neighbour and landlord. It does not name the brand of video doorbell used.

    Got that? You are surveilling the cops merely by owning a smart doorbell or frankly, any outside video camera. How about a peephole, is that surveillance? Windows? Of course, the flipside is them hacking your device.

  33. 33.

    West of the Cascades

    Anyone know if there are any states (ideally within driving distance of Oregon) that allow non-residents to be poll workers?

  36. 36.

    Jay

    Very interesting thread,

    As a public defender, whenever I got a case that was just especially, stupidly made-up (think someone arrested for dealing drugs who was at home with no drugs, money, scales, paraphernalia, or baggies on them) the first thing I checked was the cop's schedule.— Emily Galvin-Almanza (@GalvinAlmanza) June 14, 2020

    Basically, Cops use bullshit arrests at the end of their shift, so that they get time and a half or more, while “processing” the arrest, stealing taxpayers money and ruining lives, while raking in millions.

  40. 40.

    JPL

    A new poll out of GA shows trump up by seven, which is not surprising.   Biden needs to run adds so that he will tighten the race.  That might allow some down ballot democrats to win.    There has been non stop trump ads, and not one for Biden.

  45. 45.

    VeniceRiley

    News: Biden/DNC haul is not only an over 300mil Aug record… it’s over 350mil and they’re still counting.
    Not resting on their laurels, because Kamala texted an ask for $20 from me just this morning.

  48. 48.

    lamh36

    WOWOW !!!

     

    @tylerpager

    NEWS: The Biden campaign and DNC will report raising more than $350 million in August. Final number is still being calculated and could be higher.
    https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1300892627538194432?s=20

    Hmmm…I guess those “Kamala Harris won’t bring enthusiasm or fundraising money” folks are eating crow right now.  I read somewhere since Joe picked Kamala, that campaign via ActBlue has averaged upwards of 11 mill a DAY in fundraising…WOW!

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    @phein61: Yeah, when I was a poll worker in Champaign, the election was under R control and they totally fucked with the students that year, which is what made the difference and kept the awful Republican rep in office.

    If you’re comfortable with doing it in the time of COVID, which I would not be, I would highly recommend it.

    edit: the people on voting days at the Illini Union were very good and very fair, but at Brookens they played total games with the new “Grace voting”.  It was appalling.  You were supposed to be able to walk in during Grace voting period and register and vote.

    Nope. They made you fill out a form to ask for the application, and then you left.  Then they mailed you the application, which you had to mail back.  Then they mailed YOU something back and only THEN could you come in and vote.  Total ratfucking, as there wasn’t enough time to do all the mailing back and forth.  So many students were not able to vote because of it.

  54. 54.

    Martin

    The US isn’t participating in the global Covid vaccine effort because the WHO is involved and Trump doesn’t like the WHO.

    We’re on our own, folks. Better hope we don’t fuck this up.

  55. 55.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    Am guessing that Rose Twitter is collectively having to clean off their genitalia over the announcement of Trump’s eviction moratorium.

    So now we’re condemning property without any notion of due process – because small landlords are completely boned.

    Rule by Decree is awesome, right?

  58. 58.

    evap

    I keep going back and forth on being a poll worker.  I teach (online)  on Tuesday mornings, but I have a co-teacher who would probably be willing to handle the class by themselves.  I’m 62, but in very good health for my age (my doctor agrees!) and don’t have any co-morbidities.   On the other hand, it means being close to hundreds of people over the course of the day, and even if all wear masks (which are going to be required, of course), probability suggests that there will be some chance of catching the virus.   Has anyone seen any studies of poll-workers and COVID?  The spousal unit is somewhat against the idea, but would not stop me.

  60. 60.

    lamh36

    I’m reading the more in-depth descripton now, but here a bit of the relocation benefits at a glance:

    Core benefits include: home finding assistance, movement of household good, tax liabialty assistance

    Flexible Policy Maximum (up to certain amount)…benefits include:
    rental expenses (lease cancellation, rental tour, founders fee, non-refundable security deposit), meals during relocation. home finding trips, new home purchase assistance (closing cost and stuff), temporary housing (cost and locating services), return trips to departure location, rental car, storage, auto transportion (shipping care if >400miles), final trip cost (transportation & lodging) and a “Misc allowance” of a few thousands, in addition to the flexible policy maxiumum for expenses accrued but not covered by Flex policy.

    I’m really excited about this relocation package.  the hardest thing has been covering the cost to go back and forth to Houston like I need to, and trying to find a place that has everything I want.  I’m def looking forward to being able to utlizie a relocation consultation in helping to find a new place.  After decades of apartment living, I’ve become particular in what I want in an apartment and it hard to look for what I want in the midst of the pandemic and just being in a different state.

    Wonder if I can expense a more management level wardrobe…LOL.  I swear 75% of my wardrobe is hospital scrubs, athletic shoes, jeans and t-shirts.  I have no real “business” attire…smh

  61. 61.

    VeniceRiley

    @lamh36: Great minds. Oh and don’t forget to register and vote as soon as you’re in place down there.  make a plan. Will you be needing Tx ID to register? Take care of that first then.

  65. 65.

    phein61

    @WaterGirl: The longtime (1970-94) county clerk was my neighbor, after he retired.   He’d get together with a couple of other Republican stalwarts in the neighborhood and chuckle over how they kept students from voting.  Completely unashamed about it.

    Yeah, the COVID angle is scary, but the Trump angle is even scarier.  Not that Trump has a shot in Illinois, but we’ve got a Congressman to send packing, not to mention some state legislators and a few judges.

  66. 66.

    Jay

    @evap:

    I deal with hundreds of people a day, and have for months, with just a good cloth mask and eyeglasses for protection.

    the current general consensus is that it takes 15 to 20 minutes, of unprotected close exposure to a shedding individual, to become infected. Or hour long exposure in a contaminated space.

    The key concerns with Covid for me, would be the building ventilation, the square footage, the max occupancy, and of course, how wildly rampant covid is in your area.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    @evap: I don’t have any data to offer.  I can say that if you are living with another person, it’s tough because people have different comfort levels with risk.

    when you do something that they feel is not safe, it affects their safety too, both directly and indirectly.  My two cents is that if your  spouse isn’t on board, it would be best not to do it.

    But I’ll bet there will be people here who will disagree with me on that.

  68. 68.

    dmsilev

    @Martin: It’s so fucking stupid. The government is run, and I’m using that term very loosely, by a bunch of petty grievances and grudges rattling around inside a ferret-topped skull. He’s got this bug up his ass about the WHO because something something China something, and therefore anything connected with the WHO is Bad.

  69. 69.

    JPL

    @Baud: There are areas of the state that are shifting.  Where I live both on the state level and national level democrats won, but with that type of number McBath could lose and Price’s wife could be back at state.   All we need is the video of dark shadows on the plane or bags of soup cans.   Either one would help.

  72. 72.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I was a poll watcher (not poll worker — there’s a difference!) over 8-10 election cycles, from primaries and special elections and runoffs, to general elections. The Georgia Democrats usually had me going to several polling locations over the course of the day. It was exhausting, but I always felt good about donating my time to make sure the Republicans didn’t pull any overt shenanigans.

    I’m not doing that this year, and probably not in the future, which is kind of sad. But driving before sunrise/after dark is a horrible experience, and I won’t do it. No election is worth a life.

    Still, I’ve volunteered for text-banking around the country, and have already pledged to write at least 250 postcards for local and national candidates alike. And I’m donating what money I can to races that might make a real difference.

  73. 73.

    Jay

    @lamh36:

    keep all the receipts, and talk to whomever administers the package before you submit your claim. Some of the expenses you have already incurred, may be covered.!

    Congrats by the way!!!

  74. 74.

    Amir Khalid

    @rikyrah:

    If Biden/Harris can raise US$300 million a month for three months, they might just have enough to cover the reelection campaign in 2024. ??

  81. 81.

    RedDirtGirl

    I applied to do it in NYC and just heard back that my application was approved. Waiting to hear about the next step.

  83. 83.

    Kropacetic

    @Dagaetch: I’m in MA, where it…doesn’t matter all that much. Can I be an out of state poll worker anywhere?

    You can do certain types of campaign work from out of state.  I’m also in MA and I volunteered to send text messages for Claire McCaskill in Missouri in 2018. There’s also an organization often discussed here, I believe called Postcard Patriots, where you can do some good.

  84. 84.

    trollhattan

    CA Assemblywoman Buffy Wicks had to drive herself and child to the Leg for an important vote. Gets a Hillary shoutout.

    Evidently Assembly rules on proxy voting are very strict. Suppose there’s a historical reason but they might want to look at that next year.

  86. 86.

    Ken

    @Kropacetic: I’m also in MA and I volunteered to send text messages for Claire McCaskill in Missouri in 2018.

    The good thing about that is no one can be sure you’re out of state, because of the structure of cell phone numbers.

    However I tend to rage-delete messages from people I don’t know. Did you have any of that? Or were the messages to people who had agreed to receive them?

  88. 88.

    F

    Can’t do it. Spending fourteen hours doing nothing but handing out stickers on the most consequential election day in the history of the nation would be sheer torture.

  89. 89.

    Jay

    Jacob Blake's family hosting community gathering. Includes comm. clean-up, voter reg. booth as well as food, ?, free haircuts provided by local business. Celebration highlights contrast between Trump’s divisive & inflammatory statements & nonviolent demonstrations held by family pic.twitter.com/9D1eHmEMWh— Joseph Brusky (@JosephBrusky) September 1, 2020

  90. 90.

    lamh36

    @axios

    Mike Pence said he does not “recall” being told to be on standby to assume the powers of the presidency if Trump was put under anesthesia during his sudden visit to Walter Reed Medical Center last November.

    sooooo basically this confirms it.  I mean isn’t “I do not recall” straight up lawyer speak for “that’s really all I can say”…SMH

  91. 91.

    trollhattan

    @JPL:

    Right? Earworm for the ages. A “lucky” college friend named John who was a sex machine to all the chicks harvested the John Shaft label through to graduation and beyond.

    He could dig it. No choice, really.

  93. 93.

    steppy

    Thanks for posting this. I’ve been a poll worker in a possibly wavering red precinct for some time. The judge of elections and majority inspector are big Trump humpers. It’s not that I don’t trust them to run things correctly but I think it’s important enough to keep a close eye on them even in the face of COVID.

    In the primary in Pennsylvania in June, the elected minority inspector opted out so I served as acting minority inspector.

    Admittedly, being a poll worker is a long day. In the COVID era, it’s obviously important to ensure that your county provides face coverings, gloves, sanitizer, sneeze guards, etc. I was a bit anxious before the primary but never felt too badly at risk.

    Being a poll worker means you can say hello to a significant portion of your neighbors every six months and catch up. That’s the best part and it’s what keeps me saying yes when I am asked.

  94. 94.

    Kropacetic

    @Ken: If I remember correctly, it was organized in such a way that the recipients would not get your actual number and I didn’t get theirs. The software they used for this didn’t immediately work on my ancient, battered phone and I spent more time troubleshooting than sending text messages

    ETA: I have received messages (from other campaigns) in this manner, however, and personally appreciate this as a source of outreach.  I don’t know if the difficulty I experienced sending was unique to my circumstance or is more widespread.

  95. 95.

    bbleh

    @Ken:  I dunno about workers. I’m pretty sure they have partisan observers at each site. But workers are supposed to be zebras.

  96. 96.

    CliosFanBoy

    I’ve been doing it since 2004. PLEASE volunteer*. We need people to keep an eye on the republicans. it’s a long day but very rewarding. You get to know more neighbors, meet some of your fellow local Democrats, help your community, and you learn more about your community as a whole.

     

     

    *and you do get paid, at least in Virginia.

  102. 102.

    Kropacetic

    @CliosFanBoy: Indeed, as if that’s all you do all day.  (eye roll)

    When a campaign asked me to be a poll checker; after I worked through my disappointment in it not being what it sounded like to my awful, dirty mind; I found it to be productive work that helped campaigns focus on getting out voters who had not yet voted.

  106. 106.

    F

    Shrug. I have worked polls before, and that was my job. Watch the Diebold machine, help the people who have their ballots rejected, change out the bottom when it got full. Mostly, though it was stickers. If you want to shit on me for not wanting to do that on a day that I’m almost certainly going to be physically ill from stress even with distractions, go right ahead.

  107. 107.

    CliosFanBoy

    @Omnes Omnibus: actually, I usually do have one person just hand out stickers all day. it’s almost always a rather mentally slow republican and that’s all the responsibility they can handle.

  108. 108.

    Kropacetic

    @steppy: A bit harsh, don’t you think? I think poll working is a vital civic responsibility, and @F needs to see it as such.

    Agreed. Also harsh is that he passed over “go F yourself” for the more spelled out version.  It was right there.

  112. 112.

    sfinny

    @evap:  I worked the primary election in Westchester County, NY in June.  I had reservations, but I knew that the board of elections wanted younger workers so that those over age 80 didn’t need to work.  And they seemed to have good preparations for cleaning and spacing.

    And overall things were OK.  But I did decide to get tested after election day because (1) mask wearing was mostly universal but noses were out, and some just wore shields (2) ended up being in an enclosed room from 5am to 11pm (3) we had an asshole who screamed and bullied at an 80+ year old election inspector because she rightly told him that his Trump shirt was not allowed.  And in getting him out of the voting area I realized my mask was down.

    But all this is to say that I was negative, and there were no positive clusters from voting sites in Westchester.

    So I signed up to work the November election.

  113. 113.

    Jay

    Oregon Gov. Kate Brown releases plan to stop far-right violence in Portland. It's more repression.

    *Trump's FBI and DOJ coming in, i.e., feds are back

    *Those accused of violence won't get bail

    *Cops from other agencies will be indemnified, enabling violence w/ no repercussions. pic.twitter.com/BiVpwScayS— Arun Gupta Flatten the Ruling Class (@arunindy) August 31, 2020

  114. 114.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @CliosFanBoy: It all a part of the process.  In WI, election worker is a nonpartisan gig.  There is a place inside each polling place for observers (frequently from the parties).  The observers are not supposed to interfere with the process in any way.  If they see something wrong, they have to report it to their organization who can file a complaint.

  117. 117.

    Jay

    Last week, AFTER Kenosha murders, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler called on city to "rise up" against BLM protesters. Days later 100s of Trump supporters drive thru town shooting weapons, trying to run over people, provoking fights. This is why people demand Wheeler resign. https://t.co/oFAQ3CQPDS— Arun Gupta Flatten the Ruling Class (@arunindy) August 30, 2020

  118. 118.

    sfinny

    @Jay: You’re welcome.  And I will add that the whole day I spent much time disinfecting pens.  And all I could think about was Douglas Adams and the phone disinfectors who crashed on the planet.  Sorry if you haven’t read the books.

  119. 119.

    Jay

    The history of Nazis holding rallies in left-wing areas of Weimar Germany, instigating street fights, and then telling the press that only they could save Germany from the "violent communists" seems like an important thing for people to be studying right now.— Lee J. Carter (@carterforva) August 30, 2020

  122. 122.

    phein61

    @SiubhanDuinne: $14.28, but whose counting?  Still, point taken:  14 hours is a long day for old(er) folks, and if someone else needs that paycheck, they are welcome to it.

    Whoops, just double-checked the clerk’s website:  They only want healthy, not at-risk, persons.  Going to need a lot of new judges this year.

  124. 124.

    WaterGirl

    @F: There’s a lot more to it than handing out stickers, at least where I live.

    We verified that people had acceptable IDs if it was the first time they voted, so by the time folks made it to the front of a line, they moved right on through.

  125. 125.

    JAFD

    Good evening, Jackals !

    Am going to sign up again this year.  Polling place I’ve been working at is firehouse with big door open, can’t get much better ventilation unless you move it outside.

    Hoping, tho, not like ’17 – temperatores went from 80s Friday to 40s Election Day, space heaters hadn’t been turned on since March and guy who could get them started didn’t get in till 9.  Almost froze my dupka …

    Went to eye surgeons yestrday.  Heard about new high-tek replacemnt lenses, to insert into eye. But I
    said, have been wearng glasses 60 yrs, used to them.

    So will be going for more tests, then schedulng the (outpatient)  cataract removal surgery soon.  Not a major problem yet, but m’aswell get it done now.  Am told it’s not big deal these days.   Will keep you posted

    Stay healthy and happy, and have great Septembr !

  126. 126.

    J R in WV

    @JAFD:

    My dad had terrible vision,  20/600 IIRC, but his cataract surgery gave him better than 20/20 distance vision.  He did need reading glasses  for close up  work,  but was so tickled to be able to get regular RayBan sunglasses for driving.

    Best of luck with your procedures!  Keep us posted on your experience and what you learn,  please.

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