Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

So many bastards, so little time.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Quote tweet friends, screenshot enemies.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself. We’re allowed to grow past that.

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

Democrats are back in array!

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

“Joe Biden deserved better than he got from some folks in his own party.”

It looks like winning debates is a black job!

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Joe Biden can go out like FDR, not by dying in office, but by crushing the fascists.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing.

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  2. 2.

    Scott P.

    I’ll just point out the entire Imperial Japanese Navy managed to sink 6 US vessels during the Battle of Leyte Gulf.

  5. 5.

    MomSense

    Taking five.  Helping my son paint his bedroom.

    Wasn’t there supposed to be another trump boat parade in DC today?

  6. 6.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    I reported one of Trump’s tweets today, something I’ve never done before. It was the one urging people to tell Steve Job’s widow she shouldn’t support The Atlantic. I reported it for “targeted harassment.”

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    trollhattan

    I’m-a changing my boat’s name from “Gone Fishin'” to “S.S. Schadenfreude.” The number of flagpoles shall remain as before: zero.

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    Rusty

    I love how they had to be rescued by the government.  Swamped and abandoned by their wealthier boat owners.

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    dmsilev

    I have a vague memory that some right wing pundit or another, when the boat parade thing first started getting attention, compared them to the Spanish Armada. And not, so far as I remember, trying to make the ‘historic debacle’ connection.
    Seeing as Brad Parscale unironically compared the Trump campaign to the Death Star, this doesn’t seem like too much of a reach.

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    trollhattan

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Ah. Does she know she owns it? JK, I know nothing about her other than what I saw in the Jobs biopic and assume billionaires end up owning things they’re unaware of.

    ETA Okay, this could get interesting.

    New York (CNN Business)President Donald Trump is coming after Laurene Powell Jobs, the philanthropist billionaire who owns a majority stake in The Atlantic. The sixth-richest woman in the world, Jobs is the widow of Apple (AAPL) co-founder Steve Jobs.
    Trump said Laurene Powell Jobs, who has a net worth of $33.3 billion according to Bloomberg and $20.2 billion, according to Forbes, is “wasting money” Steve Jobs left her after he died by owning the magazine that published a damaging report about him last week.

    Trump, in his Sunday morning tweet, was responding to Charlie Kirk, the chair of pro-Trump student group Trump Students. Kirk implied an ulterior motive, noting that Laurene Powell Jobs donated to Biden and owns the magazine that published the story about Trump.
    Laurene Powell Jobs inherited billions of dollars of stock in Apple and Disney from her late husband after he died in 2011. She founded The Emerson Collective, a social change organization focused on education, immigration reform, the environment, media and journalism and health. In 2017, The Emerson Collective bought a majority stake in The Atlantic. It also owns a stake in Axios.

    A representative for Jobs said the Forbes figure is the most accurate depiction of her wealth. Bloomberg and Forbes use different methodologies to calculate individuals’ total wealth.

    Donny is clever but not smart. He doesn’t realize that real, as compared to imaginary billionaires can get his ass in a wringer.

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    Mike in NC

    CBS News just showed some clips of Trump yahoo boat charade on the Potomac. In addition to the usual giant banners, plenty of yellow Tea Party and cop flags visible.

  19. 19.

    J R in WV

    @Scott P.:

    So well said!

    Of course, we’re talking about much smaller watercraft here and now. Boats, not Ships. Privately owned, not in the US Navy.

    Still, HAHAHAHAHa… ha!

  23. 23.

    JMG

    @Baud: I didn’t see it, but I’ll bet it was footage in their “state of the campaign” segment. They run one of those every day now, and without rallies and candidate barnstorming, the networks don’t have as many pictures as they need for those segments.

  24. 24.

    Spanky

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: 
    If she wasn’t before, I’m thinking she sure as hell will be now.

    What’s that saying about picking fights with someone who buys ink by the barrel? Needs modernized, but still holds

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    J R in WV

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    When we went to Cabo in Baja California Sud to whale watch way back in Feb 2019, we saw a really huge yacht moored in the harbor there. It was at least at one time Mr. Jobs’s yacht. Really nice ship, too large to be a boat.

    Boats are small enough to be hoisted on board a ship. Jobs’s yacht was closer to ship size than boat size. Huge, did I say huge? I did!

    Our tiny boat sailed right by the huge yacht, fascinating to have a glimpse of how the other half lives…

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    Ken

    @trollhattan: He may have heard that billionaires have a club and cover for one another, while forgetting that he’s not a billionaire.

    The uniquely Trump part is starting out his plea the story be quashed by insulting the owner.

  30. 30.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @A Ghost to Most:

    I picture Rodney Dangerfield at the helm, blowing his “I’m in the Money” horn.

    I used sailboat a lot of out Marina Del Rey Harbor and stayed far, far away from there on any holiday weekend because this was exactly the sort of buffoon you’d see at the wheel of a multi-story power boat blithely cutting in front of other traffic and refusing to stay within the speed limits (intended to prevent problems with big wakes).

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    Baud

    @debbie:

    Ugh. It’s one thing to mock the event.  It’s another to let Trump to take the lead on the joke.

    Trump is not entertainment.

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    dmsilev

    @debbie: By this point, I imagine he’s looking underneath the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom, sure that antifa agents are hiding there. Silly Trump, everyone knows that antifa agents hide in closets.

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    Patricia Kayden

    this is a huge story and everyone should watch – mail being dumped. This is total inside job, too. Gonna get so much worse before election.Fire Louis DeJoy, he's a piece of shit and is purposefully destroying USPS. https://t.co/UEscFvi1tx— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) September 6, 2020

  37. 37.

    trollhattan

    @Baud:

    That’s how easily we lose track of things. “Didn’t I have a magazine? I can’t remember, why don’t I call my broker and buy one. There, done. Tennis?”

  38. 38.

    debbie

    @Baud:

    One of his minions mocked up video “proof” of the subs. Turned out it was really Royal Navy footage.

    I hate that I can’t retrieve stuff I’ve seen before on Twitter.

  39. 39.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Rusty: And isn’t government assistance verboten for this particular crowd?  They certainly deride it when others need it.

  43. 43.

    JoyceH

    Anyone else want to create a MAGAt persona and go online clamoring for a Trump Bungee Jump? Or is it just me?

  44. 44.

    Alison Rose

    @trollhattan: TBH this is what stood out to me:

    who has a net worth of $33.3 billion according to Bloomberg and $20.2 billion, according to Forbes

    Imagine being so rich that not only do people not know how rich you are, but the estimates are that far apart.

    Damn, Laurene, can I just get a few grand to pay off my debts? You’ve probably got that under the couch cushions!

  45. 45.

    Feathers

    Important omission on the story, from @GoldieTaylor (three tweets combined):

    Let me say something about Lake Lanier. Man-made for water supply. Whole towns rotting beneath, including the stands of a race track. All-black Oscarville is under there too, as least those who weren’t burned out of their homes. The waters are angry.

    And entire forest, tops lopped off lay under the 100ft deep water. Divers call it the most treacherous they’ve ever seen. Authorities says dozens of bodies have never been recovered. And those are the ones they know are in there.

    Every year, Lanier reports more boating and swimming accidents than every other lake in the state. I am not frequently given to the idea of curses. But if there is such a thing, Lanier is it.

    Thread: https://twitter.com/goldietaylor/status/1302599386954952704?s=20

    ETA: Is it still a water supply? If so, allowing boating is completely dumbass. MWRA, Boston & Eastern Mass’s water source, only recently allowed boating on their backup reservoirs (the ones from before Quabbin) and even then it was their canoes, can’t bring your own craft. The danger is boats bringing new organisms from other bodies of water.

  46. 46.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @trollhattan: I was just there last weekend. I’m pretty sure some of the cabins I saw at Lake Huntington have burned to the ground.

    It looks like its reached the Shaver Lake Dam, potentially cutting off the road to Huntington, and the nearby town is threatened.

  48. 48.

    Jerzy Russian

    @trollhattan:   I  remember an episode of the Addams Family wherein Gomez Addams owned an insurance company that he forgot he owned.    At the end of the episode Uncle Fester made an insurance claim with that company.

  49. 49.

    Starfish

    We here at Lake Travis Antifa want to thank the Antifa Navy for their service and a job well done yesterday. Thank you comrades! Please pick up your Deep State Soros Checks™ at Dave's house on Monday. Until the next time friends, be well and #RESIST! #AntifaNavy #BoatParade— Lake Travis Antifa (@AntifaLake) September 6, 2020

  53. 53.

    artem1s

    This is exactly the sort of behavior from people who drive power boats that scares the shit out of people who sail.  Motor boaters have no idea how dangerous they are until someone is in the water and dead.This sort of washing machine effect is typical when you have too many craft in small and shallow bodies of water. Also, too, you can’t just abandon a swamped and sunken boat. If it presents a hazard for other boats – which is likely if it’s swamped in shallow or highly traveled waters – the owner has to see that it is removed.  You don’t get to leave your junked boat sitting at the bottom of the lake. Salvage fees are really, really expensive. Dumbkirk indeed.

    BTW, flying an orange flag is the universal sign for a boat in distress.

  54. 54.

    James E Powell

    @trollhattan:

    On HBO’s Succession, Siobhan’s birthday gift for her father, Logan, is a photo book of all the houses he owns. Logan pages through the book and says he had no idea he owned them.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    @James E Powell:

    Perfect. First watched “Succession” the most recent season and need to catch up on earlier episodes. Taken as a dark satire it’s a very satisfying show to watch and really well cast. These are very, very, very bad people–like a very posh “It’s Always Sunny.”

  59. 59.

    trollhattan

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    The woods are as dry as I can remember, so any fire starting will probably become a runaway in a scant few hours. They’re still manning and mopping up the lightning megafires of three weeks ago, so resources are stretched to an extreme.

    We never know which fire’s smoke we’re breathing, just the AQI number. [checks] Ooh 166 and it’s only [checks that too] 108! Time for a bike ride? #NotEnoughGatoradeInTheWorld

  60. 60.

    opiejeanne

    @trollhattan: The way he’s talking about (to) her is so fucking misogynistic, it just makes me want to scream.

    The Little Woman is wasting all that money her hubby made all by himself and graciously left to her, by spending it on issues she cares about. Typical irresponsible woman who needs a man to guide her spending.

    Feh.

  64. 64.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @trollhattan: When I drove through, it also looked like the bark beetle problems had killed a significant number of trees, making them pure dry kindling.

    Just (selfishly) hoping the weather doesn’t breathe new life into the SZC and SCU fires. The air quality is still bad from them, even though they slowed significantly last week.

  65. 65.

    Mike in NC

    Why is this not surprising?:

    These parades were organized by Florida man Carlos Gavidia. Gavidia is expected to be charged with a felon  for sending a threatening text to a neighbor. According to The Palm Beach Post, Gavidia is expected to surrender to Palm Beach authorities on Tuesday morning. Gavidia reportedly says his threatening text was in self-defense, due to harassment he has received because of his support of Donald Trump.

    Floriduh Man strikes again!

  69. 69.

    NotMax

    @prostratedragon

    “You’re right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars next year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I’ll have to close this place in… 60 years.”
      – Charles Foster Kane
    .

  79. 79.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Baud: The reason he gets so much free TV time is that the networks and cable outfits think he’s good for ratings, which means he generates revenue for them.  Moonves confirmed this.

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    Villago Delenda Est

    The organizers of this Donald waterborne orgy wanted the fleet to move at 10mph.  Which is the ideal way to create all the wake you need to lead to boats being swamped.

    Genius all the way around.

  82. 82.

    Bishop Bag

    @Sister Golden Bear: Yesterday was clear and sunny (and HOT) here in Bishop. This morning the Owens Valley was full of smoke. Really bad air quality for a lot of people with respiratory issues. Air quality index is currently 160, not as bad of so many other parts of the state.

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    Mike in NC

    These boat parades were organized by Florida man Carlos Gavidia, who is expected to be charged with a felony for sending a threatening text to a neighbor. According to The Palm Beach Post, Gavidia is expected to surrender to Palm Beach authorities on Tuesday morning. Gavidia reportedly says his threatening text was in self-defense, due to harassment he has received because of his support of Donald Trump.

  88. 88.

    Jeffro

    @Nicole: “the SS MAGAritaville”

    “I’m safe, I’m on dry land, but I’m still going down with the ship!”

    LOLOLOLOL x infinity

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    Gretchen

    @opiejeanne: he’s also tweeted that she has a boyfriend, or, as he puts it, lover, and how disloyal that is to her dead husband.  He can’t be loyal to living wives, but if the wife gets the money she should stay celibate.  I wonder if that’s in Melanias prenup.

  95. 95.

    Sebastian

    @Starfish:

    I was having fun all day yesterday as Antifa submarine commander reporting from the frontlines. It was my sub that sank the SS MAGAritaville and SS Hamberder.

    Twitter handle @afs_192 if you want to chuckle.

    Soup can torpedoes, wave generators, Antifa Navy Special Forces, the whole shebang!

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