Spot-on Ann Telnaes @washingtonpost cartoon today.#ClimateChange#CreekFire #OregonIsBurning pic.twitter.com/WH3YpMRi1Q
— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) September 15, 2020
Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now.
The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science and Joe Biden for President.https://t.co/8TlH7shjFn
— Scientific American (@sciam) September 15, 2020
Ginned-up ‘controversy’ of the GOP day:
For those of you who think this is Biden “being racist” you should get the full context of this video. Biden plays this song after Luis Fonsi, the singer of Despacito, introduces him for the campaign event. It’s not racism, just having fun with Mr. Fonsi. https://t.co/lBvpJGpkW4
— Brenden Lowe (@brenden_lowe) September 16, 2020
serious politics knower voice: biden's team has to be really concerned about facing trump in the upcoming debates. https://t.co/BncSeIkSqF
— golikehellmachine (@golikehellmachi) September 16, 2020
setting everything else aside, trump is fundamentally incapable of responding to criticism in a serious or measured way, and a debate is basically nothing but non-stop criticism.
— golikehellmachine (@golikehellmachi) September 16, 2020
it's amazing how talking to a normal person embarrasses trump so badly but bullshitting to a reporter is something he can do effortlessly. almost like there's something slightly wrong with how the questions are being asked
— frequent antifa flyer (@MenshevikM) September 16, 2020
Imagine watching Trump for the last ~4-5 years and thinking wow, Trump flopped today because he hadn't prepared, this is so out of character.
I suppose its good that people can stay anon on here cause I can't even imagine embarrassing myself this hard in real life. https://t.co/eiIzlJnSj2
— AdotSad (@AdotSad) September 16, 2020
Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the House will remain in session until lawmakers deliver more COVID-19 relief. Talks between Pelosi and the Trump administration broke down last month and there had been little optimism they would restart before the election. https://t.co/3orhYrwWOi
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) September 15, 2020
Baud
The majority of ordinary people don’t share a cultural affinity with Republicans.
Immanentize
Help us, Obi-Biden-Harris . You are our only hope.
Baud
Scientific American lives up to both parts of its name.
Immanentize
@Baud: The majority of ordinary people don’t gladly eat bullshit for answers.
WereBear
If only Denial was of some practical use. We have a HUUUUUGE stockpile of that.
Baud
BTW, Trump is a fantastic debater and Biden will have his work cut out for him.
Expectations, people. You know the drill.
Kay
I think Biden will be good at the town hall format Trump was so bad at. One on one talking to people is what Biden is best at.
Also- I don’t have any reason to believe Trump when he says he isn’t preparing. I have no idea whether he’s preparing but it seems silly to take them at their word when he and his team lie constantly. I think he told four flat out lies in the first 10 minutes of the town hall. He could be bad at it and prepare. No telling.
Leto
@Kay:
This. I mean, they talked about dick size during some of his last debates. I’m sure the weight of the office has matured him past that…
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Kay
I know the “Democrat cities” part of the town hall is a national GOP campaign effort – they’re all parroting it, including the attorney general as he stumps for Trump across the country- but I think it’s jarring to regular people.
I read that Jared was crowing that he “tricked” Democrats into defending Baltimore when the Trump Administration attacked Baltimore as if it’s a given in the United States to have some special loathing for Baltimore. I just don’t think normal non-political professionals hate US cities and it’s odd to hear a US President and his team attack them. This is a niche GOP thing.
Kay
I know people avoid Trump events and I cannot stand his voice and his phrasing but if he does another town hall (doubtful) you might want to watch. You probably don’t know how bad he is at talking to people who aren’t members of the media. I didn’t.
raven
It’s cool here and the hurricane rain is on the way!
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay:
I don’t want to see him live.
Geminid
If trump is overconfident, I hope he stays overconfident. After the last Democratic debate between Biden and Sanders, USA Today had a coach of a perennial top college debate team rate the performances. He gave Biden an A, said it was Biden’s best debate yet. The coach backed up his mark with some detailed commentary. Obviously a national presidential debate has a way different audience than a panel of college debate judges, but I think Biden will display competence. As for trump, he couldn’t hit the slow pitches Laura Ingraham was lobbing at him the other day, and if his prep is appearing before mobs of his base base, he could ruin himself with normal voters. (I don’t consider the reaction of the journalistic talking heads. At this point they are basically talking to each other and to political junkies; I think most debate viewers will be drawing their own conclusions).
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: “live” or “alive?”
TS (the original)
@Kay:
WashingtonPost would agree with you
Trump’s ABC News town hall: Four Pinocchios, over and over again
Matt McIrvin
@Kay: The phrase “Democrats destroyed their own cities” is the headline for the Trump campaign ads that I’ve seen pop up on YouTube. It doesn’t quite have the ring of “it’s morning again in America.”
But I do think it is normal for ordinary people to loathe American cities, if they’re white and they live in the suburbs/exurbs and especially if they’re older than about 45. It’s racism, of course. But I grew up in the 70s believing they were all uninhabitable hellholes because of stuff I saw on TV, and there are people who never got past that. This is a base-retention strategy for Trump. Not much of a median-voter reelection strategy though.
SiubhanDuinne
@Kay:
This is jarring and awful in so many ways.
Leto
@OzarkHillbilly: Biden has spoken about wanting to have a fact checker there, fact checking all of Trumpov’s bullshit in real time, and that’s just impossible. You’d never have a debate because Trumpov wouldn’t be able to go 3 sentences without lying. You’d have to have Daniel Dale there and even that wouldn’t be enough.
Jager
@raven: “Hurricane Rain” is a title looking for a song.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Love this weather! It’s 64° in Alpharetta.
raven
@Jager: Brings “Idiot Wind” to mind.
I ran into the fortune-teller
Who said, “beware of lightning that might strike”
I haven’t known peace and quiet
For so long I can’t remember what it’s like
SiubhanDuinne
@OzarkHillbilly:
Verb or adjective?
SFAW
@Baud:
That right there, you’re doing God’s/FSM’s work
Leto
@SiubhanDuinne: someone turned on the outside AC here in PA and I’m hating it. Low 50s here this morning and next week it’ll be in the low 40s at night. I know plenty of people are happy about the cooling weather but, personally, I hates it!
Dorothy A. Winsor
Hey a reporter on Mr DAW’s TV just said a fire in California “exploded” overnight. So there, Libtards! Your favorite president was right about exploding trees.
SFAW
@SiubhanDuinne:
Por que no los dos?
Bruce K
@SiubhanDuinne: More to the point, which does it rhyme with, “tithe” or “give”? (For me, given the news of the last couple of weeks, especially the ICE-hysterectomy stuff, my answer is now “either works”.)
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: I don’t want to hear him dead either.
SFAW
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
The only exploding trees I could recall were the “stage trees” in a Larry Niven story.
ETA: At least, I think they could explode.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Matt McIrvin: When we lived in Detroit, I had someone tell me they didn’t think anyone lived in Detroit anymore. At that time, the population was around 1.8 million people. So yeah. I think we know “anyone” meant “anyone white.”
2liberal
538 national polls show biden lead reducing, now below 7%. is this something to worry about?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: one has to get up pretty early to catch you!
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
To be fair, I think cities were in worse shape in the 1970s than they are today.
One of my pet theories is that a big reason Bill Clinton is hated because the rejuvenation of cities happened under his watch.
Leto
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I was thinking about that yesterday, and how woodworkers usually will have a tree sawn into planks, and then stack those planks for a couple of years to dry them out. I guess for all of these hundreds of years they’ve been doing it wrong. They should’ve just left the tree lying on the forest floor for about 17 months, then collected it, and used it then.
Also I’m glad all the wingnuts have now glamped on to forest management practices in the same way they’re constitutional experts, or medical experts… (internal rage scream)
OzarkHillbilly
The Group W bench stands and gives a long and uproarious applause.
Leto
@OzarkHillbilly: I think he’ll be dead tweeting like Herman Cain. Also I’m sure there will be a 3D trumpov beamed out to hate rallies like they did with Tupac at some concerts.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Leto: @OzarkHillbilly: I love cool weather. I look forward to flannel sheets.
WereBear
My goodness, the crime dramas of the early 70s! I gleefully watch Midsomer Murders with the added thrill of seeing death in a ruralesque setting…
I still say I can’ t believe out of all my choices I still picked NYC to move to after being such a fan of Kojak.
Immanentize
@2liberal: If you look at all the polls 538 is putting into the algorithm, Biden is at 51% in all but the ones that are not pushing undecideds. Right now, over 50% is the good thing. Could/should be better, but that’s why we must work.
Immanentize
@WereBear: A death every 20 minutes if it’s Midsomer.
ETA My mother used to say she never wanted to live where Miss Marple lived.
Raoul Paste
I really enjoyed the name associated with one of the tweets in this post
It was “frequent antifa flyer”
OzarkHillbilly
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I look forward to walking out my door and not entering a sauna.
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: Still perhaps the greatest NY Daily News front page.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
I don’t know what you’re referring to. Gotta link?
The Oracle of Solace
@WereBear:
Ah, but denial does have a practical purpose. You’re speaking of a substance that can be refined into blind loyalty, which can be used like epoxy to bind together a sinking presidency and keep it from polling below forty percent.
prostratedragon
OK, here’s my screech of the week:
Only wish I could use a nice, illuminated dropped capital and a gothic font.
Leto
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I don’t look forward to all the multiple layers I’ll need to wear just to take the dog for a walk, nor how the cold now totally wrecks my reformed body. I mean, I’m super happy that pumpkin spice everything is back. I just don’t like the cold, bleak, barren landscape that is October to April. I grew up in the south where “cold” was 50F :P
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: Yup, got.
Baud
@Immanentize: I still can’t believe anyone lives in Maine after Murder She Wrote.
Geminid
@Matt McIrvin: The republican candidate in my 5th Virginia congressional race is focusing on a base retention strategy, while Democratic candidate Cameron Webb is going for a broader appeal (it doesn’t hurt that Webb has raised a lot more money). Trump carried the 5th by 10 points in 2016, but if I had to bet, I’d put money on Webb.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic: Thanks!
Gin & Tonic
@Leto: I, on the other hand, welcome the chill yet believe that “pumpkin spice” everything belongs in the trash, next to the cilantro. But it’s apple cider season, and I could hardly be happier.
germy
Ken
@SFAW: “A Relic of the Empire”.
Leto
@Baud: Add Stephen King to the list. Pretty sure 99% of everything he wrote occurred in Maine and omg… NYC/liberal hell holes have nothing on Maine! :P
OzarkHillbilly
Baud
@Immanentize: Might just be my bubble, but it seems like Trump has gotten more news time in the last couple of weeks, while Biden has been somewhat silenced.
germy
I don’t know. Waiters wear their masks and think patrons who take off their masks to laugh and shout orders are not good.
Chris T.
Or Mendocino, at least.
I want to see one of those series where the establishing shot (perhaps in the opening credit sequence) shows the highway sign: “SMALL TOWN, ANYSTATE – POPULATION
135 134 133132″.Leto
@Gin & Tonic:
Oh, you got those bad genes! /s
It’s that time of year again… again…
germy
OzarkHillbilly
@Leto: The cold does take it’s toll on these old bones but so does the heat. If one can pick the misery to suffer for eternity, I know which I’m picking.
Immanentize
@Baud: Maine is sparsely populated….
Baud
@Immanentize: Sure, after all the murders.
catclub
@germy: Trump said waiters think masks are bad, but everything after that was Trump thinking his waiters were not wearing masks right.
narya
Kitchen update: it’s done! pics soon!
catclub
@germy: more evidence WAPO fucked up printing it.
Leto
@OzarkHillbilly: Same! I mean I’m not advocating for Kuwaiti heat/humidity (which the US doesn’t have) but Misery also isn’t Siberia. So yeah :P
raven
Eight people in Indonesia refused to wear face masks. They were ordered to dig graves for COVID-19 victims as punishment.
Leto
@narya: Congrats!!! Look forward to seeing the finished product. I’m sure you’re glad all the disruption is over!
Baud
@narya: ???
trnc
@Kay:
The lie isn’t that he isn’t preparing – it’s that he’s so smart he doesn’t have to. If he wasn’t prepared for the questions in the town hall, that’s a pretty good indicator of what he’s working on for the debates.
He isn’t disciplined enough to prepare for anything, and he needs cartoon presentations of intelligence briefings. Given the town hall performance, I suppose it’s possible that someone in the WH could convince him that he should prep, but that will just end in frustration after about 10 minutes.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic:
@Baud:
Okay, because the greatest headline of all time, “Headless Body in Topless Bar” was the Post.
https://www.politico.com/media/story/2012/01/the-real-story-of-headless-body-in-topless-bar-as-argued-by-veterans-of-the-post-000201/
eclare
@narya: Woo-hoo!
Immanentize
@narya: Congrats!
prostratedragon
@germy: She handled him as well as anybody I’ve seen, up there with Nancy Pelosi and Hilary Clinton. Some of the other questioners –so many black women and men– did pretty well with him too. Might have slapped some sense into Stephanopoulos.
Immanentize
@raven: Now that is retribution!
Zzyzx
@2liberal: probably the shift from registered voters to likely voters.
Amir Khalid
16th September is Malaysia Day, distinct from Merdeka (independence) Day: it is the anniversary of the day that Singapore, Sabah, and Sarawak joined Malaya to make up the newly renamed Federation of Malaysia. (Singapore’s relationship with KL was contentious — its leader Lee Kuan Yew never got on with the Tunku, our first PM — and it was expelled from the Federation on 8th August 1965.)
WereBear
@Leto: Yes. Rural horror is scarier, IMHO
On county routes, no one can hear you scream.
SiubhanDuinne
@narya:
Congratulations! Can’t wait to see the photo diary!
Amir Khalid
@narya:
Congratumalations!
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
How is Malaysia Day observed?
ETA: Also, Merdeka?
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
Fixed, in honour of your country’s special day :-)
Amir Khalid
@SiubhanDuinne:
Generally it’s ignored, except for a few perfunctory messages from the Government. There’s an actual day off only in Sabah and Sarawak. It’s a normal working day in the Peninsula.
ETA Merdeka is traditionally celebrated like independence day anywhere else, a speech from His Majesty the Agong, a big parade (which I took part in in 1984 and 1989) but was cancelled this year for some reason. Then it’s a day off for everyone.
germy
Winning hearts and minds…
germy
So young. And so dumb.
Barbara
@germy: When was the last time Trump was served by a waiter in a commercial establishment? Fucking idiot.
cope
Little help here. Despite two cups of joe, multiple viewings and an attempt to look at it on twitter for clarification (I don’t have it on my iPad), I don’t get the top cartoon. I get his trumpiness surrounded by viri but the hardware stuff has me stumped.
Kathleen
@Baud: Or as the Mainslime Media would say, Biden is in hiding.
Barbara
@raven: Now THAT constitutes creative sentencing.
germy
@cope: He’s standing on a stove. He’s a stove flame. He’s saying the stove will get cooler, but the stove is turned up, and he is burning. Actually, I think he’s the contents of a frying pan.
EDIT: This is why some editorial cartoonists label everything.
TS (the original)
@Amir Khalid:
The things you learn on BJ. I did not know that, yet we learned about the Federation of Malaysia at school & had many Malaysian students at my university when I was there in the 1960s , I think under what was called “The Colombo Plan” .
Immanentize
@cope: The other day Trump said, regarding climate change, that “it will just get cooler, you’ll see.”. The cartoon is Trump in a frying pan being cooked on high heat saying his now infamous prediction. The virus sparks are gravy.
Ken
@germy: It makes it clear why Fox is calling it an “ambush”. The town hall was billed as being uncommitted voters, which according to customary usage means members of the local Republican party who don’t bother mentioning it to the reporters. Instead these were people who weren’t even pro-Trump.
germy
@Barbara:
That would be good work for Jared, Ivanka, Miller and the old man himself.
Barbara
@prostratedragon: Either he realized how embarrassing it would be to use his normal sycophantic approach of pulling his punches, or else, seeing ordinary people unafraid to stand up to Trump just gave him more courage than usual.
Kay
@germy:
The “situation with her mother” is that her mother died.
Immanentize
@raven:
@Barbara:
I just sent this article to my two! Criminal Law classes (~75 students). I used an anti-vaxxer hypo for my final this summer. I wonder if they are starting to grok to my views on these issues.
Immanentize
@Kay: Also, Trump said she died of Covid?! But she told him her Mom died of cancer. He cannot be bothered to listen to anyone.
germy
Trump: “Give me her number, I’ll talk to her.”
Kay
@Immanentize:
I think he uses those weird phrases “the situation with your mother” because he doesn’t listen and he’s not sure what happened with her mother. His speech is basically all an elaborate effort to cover up that he doesn’t know anything. That’s why he uses all those extra, meaningless words.
What’s discouraging about listening to him is that this FLEW for so long. He was able to pass this off – for decades. I think he’s probably terrified all the time on some level, because the whole thing is a fraud. He’s been doing it so long he doesn’t know any other way to operate, so in a situation like that, where he could have just listened to her three paragraphs and gotten all the information he needed, he uses his default, which is blah, blah, words, words, no meaning.
germy
@Ken:
randy khan
As the 2016 debates showed, even when Trump prepares it doesn’t matter. He’s going to say what he wants to say.
Nicole
So Cuomo decided to do his daily briefing from his boat today.
A) My governor is a dork.
B) Out on the water not the best place to do a briefing that you hope to transmit to constituents via the Intertubes. It’s been mostly the Technical Difficulties sign.
Kay
The most corrosive part of the Trump Administration has been “nothing matters” re: their incessant lying. Lying has to matter. If it doesn’t we are in real trouble.
I’m so grateful to (some) voters- the majority of voters- for holding to the standard that lying matters, even though they are essentially told over and over that it doesn’t matter.
The Trump people are liars, which is why they aren’t trusted. Lying comes with a cost. That’s the cost.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize: Better than my commercial paper prof who used The Usual Suspects for an exam fact pattern. Keyser Sose just isn’t as scary when he is dealing with unsecured notes.
ETA: If that doesn’t say when I went to law school, nothing will.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Leto: I’ve always said that Stephen King’s regular human Mainers scare me a lot more than the vampires and killer clowns.
We’re two degrees of separation from one of the “great friends” of The Body / Stand By Me. Terrible person.
cope
Thank you, smart persons, for the clarifications. I was well aware of the comments trump made in California the other day but still could not connect them with the image. Without the trump character and context of his comments, I would never have thought “stove” and “frying pan”.
Geminid
@Amir Khalid: Happy Malaysia Day! As your informative Covid-19 reports have made clear, your fellow Malaysians can certainly celebrate a top-notch public health system.
Immanentize
@Omnes Omnibus: Yes, but I’ll bet Sose didn’t kill anyone in that exam! My exams always include a few dead bodies.
Redshift
@Kay: And I think the greatest flaw that Biden has a reputation for is actually a positive up against this. He’s known for “gaffes,” which means he says things that are more honest than is politically wise. Trying to attack that would only re-emphasize that he’s not known for expedient lies.
Ken
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: To me the scariest things in The Mist are the people inside the store, not the Lovecraftian horrors outside.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Ken: Time for some interviews with random voters on the street, who always turn out later to be local Republican Party officials for some reason.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize: Yeah, but he couldn’t be a holder in due course because he didn’t exist or something. Beat that, crim boy! I really didn’t like that class.
mrmoshpotato
ROFLMAO!
mrmoshpotato
Thank you Speaker Pelosi. Has Sack Of Shit Mitch’s desk broken under the weight of the passed bills yet?
mrmoshpotato
@raven:
Can’t tell if you’re excited or terrified.
Jeffro
@Ken:
So very, very true. Sorry ’bout that, Repubs! Perhaps y’all need to refine your sales pitch in the blessed marketplace of ideas.
mrmoshpotato
Not sure about lyrics, but the tune is Dinosaur Train.
? Dinosaur Train, Dinosaur Train?
@raven:
debbie
@Kathleen:
Hey, I was just listening to two local reporters talking about the lawsuit brought by Ohio GOOPers against DeWine about the mask mandate. I can’t remember his last name, but that Vito guy says his reasoning is that masks are an infringement on his religious freedom…because masks hide his face which is the likeness of God.
I’m not a believer, but I’d bet God is feeling mighty insulted.
Gin & Tonic
@Immanentize: Wow, I didn’t realize you were such a tough grader. Respect.
PPCLI
@Baud: Also worth remembering in connection with the “Democrat [sic] cities falling apart!” theme is that crime was much higher in NYC under Giuliani than it is now.
Ruckus
@Kay:
Kay, ever so nice.
This is a gop racist thing.
Which is 75% of their policy goals.
The other 75% is to steal all the money.
PPCLI
@debbie: So I suppose he never wears clothing, for the same reason.
Baud
@PPCLI:
That’s my excuse.
rp
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Yes…that’s a running theme in his work.
opiejeanne
@OzarkHillbilly: The rest of that story about the woman telling her husband, “I am your wife” is even more chilling. She had her mother, her teenage son, and their dog in the car, the tires were melting and the car wouldn’t move. She told her son to take the dog and run. Her mother was recovering from a broken leg and couldn’t move fast, so she left her and ran too. Last report I saw, the son and the dog were still missing.
I’m still reeling from the thought of all of this, and the absolute horror of all of it, not least the part about leaving your mother in the car in that inferno.
Kelly
Fogarty Beach, Oregon a few minutes ago. Nice clean fog
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ugt97rfT3yLCAdgaA
Geeno
@zhena gogolia: “Foot heads arms body” when Michael Foot was put in charge of a nuclear disarmament committee.
opiejeanne
@cope: It took me a while to figure out what I was looking at. It’s a skillet on fire, in the fire, on a stovetop (out of the frying pan, into the fire?). The short vertical black lines represent the burner grate. The curved black line to the right of the fire is the pan’s handle.
mrmoshpotato
@narya: ????
raven
Crank up the outrage, Big Ten Football will resume.
MisterForkbeard
@Ruckus: It’s 150% because there’s a huge overlap in racism and stealing goals, right?
PPCLI
@zhena gogolia: Hard to be “Headless Body in Topless Bar”.
Though a headline from the Sun in Britain comes close. After a huge upset by Inverness Caldonian Thistle over much favored Celtic, the headline was:
Super Caley go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious
opiejeanne
@PPCLI: I’ll bet the guy who wrote that title had it in his back pocket for a while, just waiting to be able to use it.
debbie
@raven:
Jeez, that’s good news. This took up almost all of the local news last night. Who needs to know about floods, fires, etc ? //
Kelly
@opiejeanne: I haven’t been able to bring myself to read that. My brother’s home was about 5 miles up but across the river from that description. The county sheriff banged on his door at 1:00 am telling them to get out fast and there was a steady stream of cars when they hit the road a few minute later. It was chaos.
Our good friend Ken Cartwright home burned while he stayed on the air on KYAC broadcasting the warnings.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/wildfire/mill-city-radio-station-survives-broadcasts-through-santiam-fire/283-a280fc12-d908-4996-ac2b-a68cae890236
debbie
@PPCLI:
All the more horror if you knew what this clown looked like.
Kathleen
@debbie: FFS. I haven’t heard about that law suit. There are so many. I’m so tired of these effers invoking The Almighty to justify their crimes. Wonder what a press conference with The Big Guy be like.
Did you read Dispatch article about why Ohio Dept of Health hire rescinded her acceptance? Nice job Ohio. Looking forward to Governor Camacho’s administration.
germy
Put this one in the “Once all the old boomers die out, everything will be better” file:
Pro-Trump youth group enlists teens in secretive campaign likened to a ‘troll farm,’ prompting rebuke by Facebook and Twitter
Kathleen
@MisterForkbeard: Don’t give Stephen Miller any more ideas.
catclub
Never, but Trump is served by waiters all the time. And he was extremely upset when he found out that his waiter – who touched HIS plate, had tested positive for Covid19. This is the entire basis for his complaint about waiters and masks. – It did not keep that person away from touching HIS plate.
mrmoshpotato
@raven: Oh goody! Football is known for its lack of proximity!
LongHairedWeirdo
@Geminid: Of all the Trump team misarrogance (that is to say: being arrogant *without cause*… I mean, I’m a bit arrogant about my database knowledge – but I’m *damn* good, and if I’m a bit arrogant, even one of the best database people will agree “dude, you’re *allowed* to be at least *a bit* arrogant”), the most fruitful one is probably the idea that setting a low bar for Biden’s debate expectations is a good idea was probably the worst (yet, most fruitful).
One thing I remember is how Obama, a good, decent, and fundamentally honest, man had problems dealing with a liar like Romney. Biden showed the way forward. Let them lie, but *respond*, even with a quick “not true” (or, most famously, with “please proceed, governor” – and I bet he can *still* bluff in a high stakes poker game, by using that phrase!) .
Biden will *smear* Trump in the debates. I hope he picks up on Hillary’s strategy of calling him “donald” (it’s said he doesn’t like that name), but the fact of the matter is, Biden is ready to laugh, and scoff, at BS by Trump, just as any normal, informed, human being would do. And I think the debates will highlight that he has plenty of reason to scoff.
Remember: Trump thought his big moment was threatening to jail a political opponent without evidence, because it ran thrills up the legs of his supporters, a statement that, in any healthy democracy, would have assured his resounding defeat. Alas, we don’t live in a healthy democracy, but, the press hasn’t been savaging Biden the way it did Hillary Clinton.
Omnes Omnibus
@PPCLI: “Gordon Ramsey Sex Dwarf Found Dead in Badger Sett.”
Game, set (sic), and match, I think.
catclub
@opiejeanne: Thanks! I was wondering, too.
germy
@Omnes Omnibus:
Found On Mars: Statue Of Elvis
(On the 1st of October 1989, an English Tabloid Newspaper proclaimed that a Russian space probe called ‘Phobus’ had detected a statue of Elvis Presley in a formation of Martian rocks.)
The Moar You Know
@Leto: I was a guitar builder who has been trained from picking appropriate trees to proper resaw and storage to air/kiln drying to manufacture. These people know less than nothing.
And we need to start massive controlled burns throughout all of the West Coast or we are going to be in a world of hurt sooner rather than later. Yes, this will cause serious air quality and environmental problems. The alternatives are far worse; do nothing or clearcut.
Evap
@SiubhanDuinne: amazing, isn’t it! My 7 am run was heaven compared to previous couple of months
Pappenheimer
I remember watching a Merdeka parade in KL in the 70’s – I was most impressed by the fortitude of the soldiers in full dress uniform who stood in ranks in the Malaysian afternoon climate (always 85+% humidity, usually 85-90 degrees F) while politician after politician made speeches as long-winded as you’d expect in any country. Every once in a while a squaddie would pass out. I later found out that the British Army (on which the Malaysian Army is based) has specific rules for passing out while in ranks – take a step back, half turn, and fall between the rows. They’ve been doing this for a while.
zhena gogolia
@Geeno:
that’s like person woman man camera tv
zhena gogolia
@PPCLI:
Very bad. don’t tell NotMax.
The Moar You Know
@opiejeanne: The mother was critically injured and died. The boy and dog made it to another car and took shelter. They were found with the dog on the boy’s lap, both dead. At least the boy and dog had each other at the end.
catclub
since it is an open thread: Social security ‘holiday’ and federal employees – wtf
This is a total clusterfuck. I am a federal employee, and they say that
they will
do additional withholding from jan through april to pay the owed SS taxes
for 2020 to repay the omitted SS taxes from sep-dec 2020..
I have adjusted my withholding to cancel out the useless
trump offered SS amounts. In 2021 (jan through April)
I will re-adjust my withholding so that my paychecks remain about
constant throughout.
But when will they issue W2 forms for 2020? will they issue revised
W2 forms after april? usually, any withholding done in 2021 will only
be applied
to 2021 taxes, but here, they want to do withholding in 2021 and apply
some (the social security part) of it to 2020 taxes. But not the regular federal tax withholding
What if I file in February?
Betty Cracker
@The Moar You Know: Such an awful story. I read it a few days ago and have been haunted by it ever since. IIRC, the boy and dog ran back to the car where the grandmother was. Heartbreaking.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud:
They definitely were, though the change was not all for the good–the cities also got expensive and there are many people who just got pushed out.
And there were, at the time, also a lot of sitcoms that still portrayed living in New York as an exciting thing for a young person. And Sesame Street, which in the 70s portrayed the city landscape with a surprising amount of visible grit but also as a friendly place to live. Sesame Street, of course, has been an irritant to American racists from day one.
Kay
Betsy DeVos country.
Was a Trumpster district. Trump shouldn’t just be ahead, he should be well ahead. He’s not.
Yutsano
@Kay: Assuming things hold*, Biden’s numbers should push Scholten over the top. Assuming Biden’s numbers hold. We’ll have to see if the phenomenon known as “Republicans Coming Home” still holds true. For some it will. Depends on if it’s enough here for a flip.
*I assume nothing in this environment. But my hope is that Unca Joe gets better and better numbers from here.
chopper
@Leto:
https://thenib.com/autumnal-afflictions/
Amir Khalid
@Pappenheimer:
Afternoon? Going back to the 1970s and earlier, the Merdeka Day parade has always been in the morning. The two I marched in certainly were.
PPCLI
@opiejeanne: Yes, variations on “Super xxx goes ballistic, yyyy are atrocious” have been used a bunch of times, and this wasn’t even the first. I should have done research before posting, and if I had I would have found (thanks, Guardian!) the 30 years older Liverpool Echo headline after Liverpool’s Ian Callahan played well in defeating Queens Park Rangers.
“Super Cally goes ballistic, QPR atrocious”
Kay
@Yutsano:
Her opponent has an unearned advantage:
Everyone in the state instantly recognizes his name – Meijer supermarkets are everywhere in Michigan, and they’re good supermarkets. IMO :)
PPCLI
@Omnes Omnibus: Wow. Way beyond anything I can offer.
Leto
@chopper: I’m fairly certain I have cinnamon lung (*cough, cough* I think I have the cinnamon lung, pop) and I’m 1000% certain the wife has blanket scarf syndrome. But considering the fact she’s a master level knitter, it’s not so much a syndrome as it is artwork ?
RobertDSC-Work
@raven:
I unfollowed the University of Michigan after today’s vote. I will always have a soft spot for the Big House, but this vote broke me. I won’t watch them anymore.
Immanentize
@Kay: What do you always say? “2,200 votes from that district, 880 from that district, etc.”
There go two miscreants
@Gin & Tonic: That was better than the joke I was going to make.
germy
different-church-lady
I’m starting to think the WaPo allows certain people to write op-eds just so Alexandra Petri has a constant stream of material to work with.
WaterGirl
@Immanentize: Let the punishment fit the crime.
Kay
We’re really lucky in a way that all the Trump low quality hires are dishonest, because most people don’t believe a word any of them say anymore, which makes beating back the lies a little easier.
If he had hired even one or two honest people it would be harder.
Kent
The majority of people also don’t give a shit if Trump or his lackeys never call them again to whisper some off-the-record dirt that they want published.
Kay
@Immanentize:
I feel like that name recognition is an unfair advantage, though. People have a positive association with Meijer.
Meijer is what Wal Mart would be if Wal Mart invested in the business, instead of running filthy, poorly lit and understaffed stores that are falling apart and eyesores in the community.
Geoduck
[Looks out window at all the smoke that’s been roiling there for a week now.]
You all can just shut up about how cool weather is unpleasant.
germy
@Kent:
Pappenheimer
Amir:
2020 -1978 = a lot of years under the bridge, it’s probable my memory is failing me. I do remember those poor guys out there, though. And if you were one of them, well done. I remember my years in KL fondly, but as a privileged expat in Damansara Heights, so there may be a rosy tint in my glasses.
J R in WV
@cope:
It’s a frying pan filled with Trump surrounded by gas flames on a stove.
geg6
@raven:
As an employee of a Big Ten school, you bet I’m fucking outraged. The quarantine housing at the main campus is filling up and this stupid shit is what they care about? Fuck football. Just fucking fuck it.
narya
@The Moar You Know: I have toured the Martin factory, including the place where the wood is stored. Millions of dollars of wood. And got to talk to the guy who was grading the grain–got him talking about his work, which was SOOOO fun.
narya
@The Moar You Know: This broke me today.
FelonyGovt
@Ken: Watching the brief clips he looks so BORED and dismissive when the people are speaking. He can’t wait to get the conversation back around to himself.
Barbara
@The Moar You Know: I am so sad for this family.
Geminid
@raven: The Big 10 will try to play this fall, but will they? U.Va. was going to start their season this weekend against Virginia Tech, but Covid-19 problems kept Tech from practicing this week, and now the game will be played at “a date to be determined.” Now the Cavaliers’ opener is to be next weekend at Duke, but that seems like a 50-50 proposition. I’ve got no big problem with the leagues trying to play, but I question whether they can pull it off. What with schools opening and relaxation of and resistance to social distancing measures, I think we are heading into a third surge in the Covid flood and it will be tough for college to start a season, even tougher to finish one.
opiejeanne
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh my god. I love that article soooo much! Who knew there were a whole group of Gordon Ramsey look-alike dwarf porn stars. I read that aloud to my husband and had trouble keeping my composure.
LMAO! ROFL!
Benw
Since this election seems to be heading toward a massive GOTV for the Dems, this is good news: https://news.avclub.com/live-nation-is-turning-over-100-concert-venues-into-pol-1845076921
“Following in the footsteps of the NBA, which recently decided to convert its arenas into polling places, Live Nation will similarly turn over 100 concert venues into polling locations in an effort to give more people access to vote in the 2020 election.”
opiejeanne
@The Moar You Know: So terrible. I expected the mother to die, and I hoped the boy and dog would escape.
How is the woman doing?
opiejeanne
@Betty Cracker: I just found that article. I can’t even imagine the terror, but the boy was trying to save his grandma.
Raven
James E Powell
There is apparently a new Rasmussen poll that has Trump pulling ahead of Biden and it is lighting up twitter like a west coast forest fire. It’s over libtards!
I expect cable news shows to follow. They want the election to be close and they all have their fingers crossed for a Trump comeback. Maggie has already written the article.
Sasha
“The Scientific Consensus Is Clear: Vote Biden”
opiejeanne
@James E Powell: Rasmussen Poll. lol.
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
If I ever meet Mr. Dale, I’m buying him dinner.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
Makes me think that the elite news media outlets need to start hiring mid-career lawyers from criminal or family law practice backgrounds. People who are able to ask followup questions without worry, and who enjoy making witnesses squirm, in other words.
J R in WV
@Kay:
We’ve visited Baltimore a couple of times. Met an old friend and wife’s college roommate once at Inner Harbor to shop bookstores and eat very well. Spent a weekend there another time, and drove on east to Rehobeth Beach, late September, so virtually deserted. A wonderful place when school is in session, art galleries, book shops, nice beach to walk on.
Baltimore is nice to visit… but Jarvanka wouldn’t know that. They don’t do that kind of thing. They need to hang with Mohammed Bone Saw for fun!
misterpuff
@Kay: Well, its obvious Jared has a loathing for Baltimore. Thats where his slums are.
He’s just mad they didn’t film The Wire at his properties.
J R in WV
@Matt McIrvin:
Living in the woods as we do, when we want to go somewhere different, we don’t visit a state park, which would be like where we live… We visit a city for the culture. Ashville, NC, or Baltimore, or NYC, or Pittsburgh, or Columbus OH. All of these cities are a days drive, and interesting. Cincinnati, too. Louisville and Lexington KY, too.
Saw Pink Floyd at Rupp Arena in Lexington with friends long ago, and then again at OSU stadium in Columbus with a completely different set of friends. That was the end of the tour, after seeing the show at the beginning of the tour. Culture!
Bill Arnold
@debbie:
(Copied from an old thread):
Moses wore a veil for a while so as to not expose the Israelites to the radiant glow of melding/being with (/channeling/hosting/avataring) a divine. (This is technically known as “source control”. :-) He took the veil off to go inside, but he was the lone human breathing inside so that was OK. So Jewish/Christian scriptures are at least unclear about mask wearing.
Exodus 34:33-35
RaflW
re: that Nancy Peolsi tweet in the OP. Why does Jim Cramer still have a job today?
Sister Golden Bear
@opiejeanne: I realize it’s a dead thread.
But it gets even worse. The son and dog circled back to the car—smoke was so bad that the mother didn’t see it—and were found dead with the grandmother. Apparently the boy tried to drive the car to safety.
debbie
@J R in WV:
He’s probably never been to the Inner Harbor. His loss!
debbie
@Bill Arnold:
Heh, we’ll see how the local media covers this gem of a man.