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You are here: Home / Elections / Biden-Harris 2020 / Open Thread: Biden-Harris National Voter Registration Day. ETA: Kamala Harris Live

Open Thread: Biden-Harris National Voter Registration Day. ETA: Kamala Harris Live

by TaMara|  September 22, 20203:33 pm| 144 Comments

This post is in: Biden-Harris 2020, Election 2020, Open Threads

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ETA: I swear to you, they are trying to vex me.  Two seconds after I hit publish, this pops up. But I’ll forgive them, because I bet it will be good. I have to run to a client’s, but hopefully will be back in time to watch.

Energy!

Our trip to Philadelphia

Thank you for having us last week, Philadelphia. I loved meeting with members of the community from all walks of life, both young and old. The city of brotherly love truly lives up to its name.

Posted by Kamala Harris on Monday, September 21, 2020

 

And sweetness:

I loved meeting Zoey on the campaign trail in Philadelphia last week. Thank you for taking my picture! pic.twitter.com/FiwE8TUSAN

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) September 21, 2020

 

I enjoyed this:

 

Open Thread: Joe Biden ???

I regularly post links to check your registration but was a little disturbed that several of the “check your registration” sites I link to ask for intrusive information AND your email. I don’t want you to get spammed so here’s the best of the bunch: Vote.gov. and IWillVote.com

Both let you pick your state and sends you to your state election website to check your registration status and how to vote information.

And you won’t spammed with unwanted emails from Rock the Vote or Vote.Org

 

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  1. 1.

    Martin

    September 22, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    Really getting tired of these days where it takes 100% of my effort to not fall apart. I’m okay, but man, it’s hard.

  2. 2.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    @Martin:  : (

  3. 3.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 22, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    @Martin: Yeah I let my guard down and got hopeful when the polls showed Biden will most likely win. Then RBG died.

  4. 4.

    cmorenc

    September 22, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    @Martin: Yeah I let my guard down and got hopeful when the polls showed Biden will most likely win. Then RBG died.

    RBG’s death doesn’t really alter the odds of Biden winning so much as increase the challenge and complexity of an incoming Biden Administration in effectively making headway toward the correction of course on COVID and so many other areas this country is so badly in need of.

    Biden will win, provided we stay with it.  But the hard part only begins with a win the week of Nov 3rd.  That’s the part that exhausts and exasperates me to contemplate.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: it’s not good, McConnell has the votes to replace her, and there’s nothing– that I’m aware of– that Dems can do. But as far as the GE goes, I think this solidifies Biden’s support among college-educated whites, and maybe young voters.

  6. 6.

    Kropacetic

    September 22, 2020 at 4:07 pm

    @cmorenc: Biden will win, provided we stay with it.  But the hard part only begins with a win the week of Nov 3rd.  That’s the part that exhausts and exasperates me to contemplate.

    I’ve been thinking, a large part of our current political struggles started when people with unrealistic expectations of Obama dropped off in the midterms and beyond.  They later put those unrealistic expectations on Bernie.

    Now some people (to a degree myself included) have unrealistic negative expectations of Biden.  If we win and have a productive couple years, it may produce some sustainable enthusiasm for the Democrats as a whole that can be carried into future elections when Biden inevitably turns out not to be Dubya’s third term.

  7. 7.

    MazeDancer

    September 22, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    At 6:00, Gabrielle Union is hosting an All-Black Cast table reading of an episode of Friends.

    Cast includes: Sterling K. Brown, Ryan Michelle Bathe, Udo Azuba, Aisha Hinds, Kendrick Sampson, and Jeremy Pope.

    This is the link they sent that people can use to sign up:

    ttps://www.mobilize.us/zoomwhereithappens/event/315921/?referring_vol=3326952&rname=Calyndha&timeslot=2042990&share_medium=email_link&share_context=email_1

    “Spotlights” – code for donations will be solicited, one assumes – When We All Vote

  8. 8.

    PJ

    September 22, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It means, that, if the Dems win the Senate, one of the first orders of business is expanding the Court.

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    September 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: The hideous implications for the country aside, losing RBG felt like the loss of a favorite aunt, in a sense. It felt personal, and I know I’m not alone in that.

  10. 10.

    laura

    September 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    @Martin: It’s hard because you’re decent. It’s hard because it’s a fight worth having. It’s hard not to feel a boot to the face every day and most hours of these days. It’s hard because the Republicans fear us and fear what the public will feel when their lives are made incrementally better.

    Rest when you can, fight when you must. We can do this and it’s taking all we feel we have to give – and then we are forced to dig down inside for strength we did not know we had and find that strength to do what we know must be done. Find joy in the struggle – because there is joy in the struggle. You’re not alone Martin- this shit’s tough and it’s taking physical and emotional tolls on you and me and everyone we know and those we’ll never meet. Never Give Up.

  11. 11.

    cmorenc

    September 22, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    @Kropacetic:

     If we win and have a productive couple years, it may produce some sustainable enthusiasm for the Democrats as a whole that can be carried into future elections when Biden inevitably turns out not to be Dubya’s third term.

    The exhausting /exasperating part is that McConnell and other GOP senators and House members will be out, as with Obama, to to their utmost to make his Administration a failure, even at the cost of badly needed COVID measures and other fixes for the country.  They will be acting in bad faith at every turn.

  12. 12.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    @PJ: there are lots of “first orders of business” for a majority that hasn’t been elected yet

  13. 13.

    BC in Illinois

    September 22, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    Mrs BC and I went to the St L County Election Board and cast an early vote in person.
    A few items:

    1) There was a line of about 40-50. [11 AM] The Jill Schupp for Congress guy (the only person electioneering, though there were a lot of signs — all local and state) says that there was a longer line (200? or so?) at the beginning. Steady all day.

    2) The Jill Schupp for Congress guy intends to be at the site, or have somebody there, every day until Election Day (or the Day of the Dead).

    3) Over half of the voters were Black.

    4) All went well, and we went out for a gyro salad in U City.

  14. 14.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2020 at 4:21 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I feel the same way, Betty.

    Not sure if I’ve ever related this before, at least here. Five years ago I was lucky enough to have a wonderful encounter with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. 

    The Castleton Music Festival in Virginia had a special program in July 2015 with RBG presenting a lecture on “Opera and the Law,” with her many examples illustrated by Castleton’s opera workshop interns performing relevant scenes. I met up with a couple of friends (fellow opera lovers and RBG admirers), and because the wife was disabled, we got front-row seats and I ended up not more than six feet away from Ginsburg.

    She was funny and knowledgeable. Scalia was still alive then, and she was hilarious describing the tension between their disagreements on jurisprudence and their shared love of opera. She was so generous to the young singers who performed scenes from Mozart to Gilbert & Sullivan to Verdi and Wagner.

    Tiny, tiny woman. Birdlike.  Frail. She wore a dark dress — black or navy or bottle green — with a huge colourful scarf flung rakishly around her thin shoulders. No lace collar that day! She had a wicked little smile.

    The audience had a chance to ask questions, and I asked her to expound on some point she had made about contractual obligations in Wagner’s Ring Cycle. It was very cool to have that brief moment of interaction with her.

    The night she died, I messaged my friends who had been there with me, and we shared many tears and happy memories remembering that event.

  15. 15.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I must say the total and utter disrespect for her legacy shown by each and every Republican elected official has really made me sick, expected as it was. They didn’t feel the need to even pretend for as long as it would take for her body to get cold. And ASshole in chief accused her granddaughter of lying about her dying wish. The utter, unmitigated indecency of it all.

  16. 16.

    James E Powell

    September 22, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    I must say the total and utter disrespect for her legacy shown by each and every Republican elected official has really made me sick, expected as it was.

    They hated her and they are happy she’s gone.

    They might be even more evil than we suspect them to be.

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    September 22, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    @zhena gogolia: It is designed to wear us down and discourage us.  Fuck them!  To reward them appropriately for their efforts, we need to work that much harder.

  18. 18.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Okay, this is the only thing that has made me smile today. Watch to the end!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ9aLXkQ3D0&feature=youtu.be

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    September 22, 2020 at 4:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That’s so wonderful! Apparently Justice Ginsburg was generous and kind to lots of folks who encountered her, according to the stories I’ve seen. Here’s one about some thrift shop employees in the Tampa Bay area who sent her an unsolicited jabot a couple of years ago.

    I love that you used the word “birdlike” to describe her, because that is the exact word I’ve always thought of in connection with her. It grieves me that we won’t get to properly mourn her, given the hideous political circumstances.

  20. 20.

    geg6

    September 22, 2020 at 4:45 pm

    I have been furiously writing postcards.  I just write and write and write and write.  It’s the only thing keeping me sane.  When I finish this 60, I’ll go and get some more and start over.

  21. 21.

    dogwood

    September 22, 2020 at 4:45 pm

    @cmorenc: I hear ya!  RBG’s death was a blow, but given her more recent health issues and hospitalizations, I was hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.  I will breathe a sigh of relief if Biden wins, but I am well-aware that there will be difficult times ahead.  Times even more difficult than those Obama faced coming in.  Measures to contain and gain control of the virus are going to be fought tooth and nail by 40% of the population.  The progressive left will start complaining with every Cabinet nominee and every White  House staffing decision that doesn’t meet their ideological standard.    So I still hope for the best,  but am preparing for the possibility of extended hard times.

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 4:48 pm

    @dogwood: one ray of hope I have is that if all goes well, Biden will have a Senate majority very different from the one Obama dealt with. They may not fill our wish lists– I’m deeply skeptical about the popularity of court expansions– but I think they’ll be much more progressive on health insurance reforms, arguably fiscal stimulus as long as it’d tied to Covid, even climate.

  23. 23.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 22, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    @cmorenc: I think you’re right that Biden will win. My dismay about what a very conservative court could do to progressive legislation. They could declare all kinds of things unconstitutional.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think court expansion was unlikely before now.  I’m less sure now, with what Trump and McConnell are doing. A lot of it will depend on how large our Senate majority is.

  25. 25.

    John Revolta

    September 22, 2020 at 4:54 pm

    I’m not a “heighten the contradictions” guy in general, but Yertle’s duplicity has really done just that for a lot of people. Even a month ago I considered SC expansion as a lefty pipe dream, and now it’s turning into a de facto plank in the platform. People are PISSED.

  26. 26.

    Steeplejack

    September 22, 2020 at 4:57 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Rand Paul’s Drag Race! ?

  27. 27.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:01 pm

    @John Revolta: 

    It’s such obvious gamesmanship, it’s hard to ignore, and people are already primed to be unhappy about what Republicans are doing generally.

  28. 28.

    RaflW

    September 22, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    Semi-relatedly, if you’re grumpy (or worried or fearful or angry) about Mitt Romney’s failings as a leader, you could help shift Utah a little bit more ‘blue’ @DianeLewisUtah and @VoteMiller54 are two Democratic women in very close races to flip UT legislative seats. 

  29. 29.

    different-church-lady

    September 22, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    Today has been the kind of day that makes me dread the knowledge that there will be more days.

  30. 30.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    @Kropacetic:

    I’ve been thinking, a large part of our current political struggles started when people with unrealistic expectations of Obama dropped off in the midterms and beyond.  They later put those unrealistic expectations on Bernie.

    Now some people (to a degree myself included) have unrealistic negative expectations of Biden.  If we win and have a productive couple years, it may produce some sustainable enthusiasm for the Democrats as a whole that can be carried into future elections when Biden inevitably turns out not to be Dubya’s third term.

    No, it’s been forever.   You are maybe too you to remember all the endless bullshit about Bush and Gore being two peas in a pod and essentially equivalent.  So might as well vote for Nader.   Take that out and history looks astonishingly different starting with no Iraq war

    I don’t even remember what fucking trivial reason the lefties had for not supporting Gore.  But it was trivial.   Too “corporate” or some such bullshit if I remember.  Picking Lieberman didn’t help.  But he wasn’t quite as much of a total corporate tool in 2000 as he became later

    Of course if Clinton had kept his pants zipped then no impeachment and also probably no Lieberman moral scold on the ticket either.  So maybe it all leads back to Bill Clinton being unable to keep his pants zipped.

  31. 31.

    Pete Mack

    September 22, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    Shout-out! Imani Gandi,  aka Angry Black Lady, and Balloon Juice emeritus, is quoted in NYT Ginsberg  article disagreeing with a supposed* “feminist backlash” against RBG hagiography.  I totally agree with her.  While there is room for criticism around the edges, Ginsberg remains a feminist giant of jurisprudence. (pronoun order intentional here–giant of jurisprudence is the main point.)

    *supposed, because as far as I can tell, it’s just sour grapes from a handful of contrarians.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/arts/ginsburg-feminist-backlash.html

  32. 32.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:10 pm

    @Kent: Michael Moore is a cancer on progressivism.

  33. 33.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    @Pete Mack: Awesome. Kudos to the NYT for reaching out to her.  However,

    sour grapes from a handful of contrarians

    those people will always be on the NYT’s speed dial.

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    September 22, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    @John Revolta: I think that’s right. Someone on Twitter (I think) pointed out that Republicans had a 30-year hissy fit over the Bork nomination — and the result of that was that they got to pick another conservative for the bench!

    We haven’t been as spite-driven as a party. But that was before McConnell openly screwed us out of a seat and is now blatantly violating his own tortured justification for that theft to give a third pick to a historically unpopular orange fascist.

    Oh, and practically dancing on the grave of one of the most admired and beloved feminist icons who ever lived into the bargain. I’m going to be pissed off about that for the rest of my life, and so are millions of other women.

  35. 35.

    Eljai

    September 22, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    That trumpublicans are doing this now just shows that they know they are losing so they gotta make the power grab now.  I’m realistic, but I do think there is actually a good chance they won’t be able to put someone on the Supreme Court before the election.  And when Biden wins and we take back the Senate (speaking optimistically), trying to squeeze someone onto the Supreme Court in a lame duck is not going to be easy as they think.  Plus, just look at the record.  Some new scandalous dirt on Trump comes out every week.  That’s not gonna stop just because it’s November.  I’m not giving up.  Not now.  Not ever.

  36. 36.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I’ve seen a few right-wingers going on about how Kavanaugh was “destroyed”, etc. Their victim cult never runs out of grievance.

  37. 37.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:@Kent: Michael Moore is a cancer on progressivism.

    Yeah but I doubt he actually influenced very many votes.  Ralph Nader, Bernie Sanders, and Jill Stein were MUCH bigger cancers.

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    September 22, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Lindsey Graham! That’s his entire justification, as far as I can tell: Democrats hurt Kavanaugh’s feelings. Whiny-ass babies, the lot of them.

  39. 39.

    FelonyGovt

    September 22, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    @James E Powell: Many women idolized or at least admired RBG and the disrespect shown her is energizing us even more.ETA- or what Betty Cracker said.

    I went to Columbia Law in the 1970’s, and she was a professor of gender law there at the time. I would pass her in the hallways.

  40. 40.

    Barbara

    September 22, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    @Martin: I am avoiding most news at this point.  I read friendlies, like Michelle Goldberg, but avoid all horse race coverage of either the Court or elections.  I do a lot of crossword puzzles and continue vying for the Guiness Book of World Records for most mystery series read during a single year.  Seriously, there has to be respite.

  41. 41.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    I’m liking J-L Cauvin more and more each time I see him! He’s hilarious, and has the voice down to perfection. Thank you so much for introducing him to the Jackaltariat!

  42. 42.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    @Kent: Moore was a symbol, a synecdoche, if you will. I chose him because he’s the biggest link between the Nader nonsense and the Sanders fantasies

    ETA: also, I particularly hate him and his whole baseball cap, sweatshirt schtick

  43. 43.

    Barbara

    September 22, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    @Pete Mack: I sometimes wonder about NYT’s stable of female journalists, like Haberman and Chozick.  Linda Greenhouse is solid, but the rest strike me as women of an age and social standing that rewarded them for being dismissive of feminism.  Don’t want to generalize too much, but they seem to exist in a golden glow that makes them think that they aren’t actually affected by the things they cover.

  44. 44.

    A Ghost to Most

    September 22, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    @Eljai: Alternate theory: they have spent 40 years preparing for this moment, and they’re about to pull the trigger on permanent R control.

  45. 45.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    new phone, who dis?

  46. 46.

    dogwood

    September 22, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    @Kent: When I think about the Trump voters who will never admit they made a mistake , I am reminded of the many Nader/Stein voters I come in contact with who still stand by their votes.  In my long career teaching high school, I had to face the fact that some students were “unteachable”.  Often intelligent and capable, they could never cop to being wrong.  For most of those kids, their driving force was tribalism.  The need to be accepted in some group superseded their moral and intellectual capacities.  It’s a sad thing, but also very human.

  47. 47.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, I blame him too.  But he’s essentially just the lefty version of say Dinesh D’Souza.  A total hack who makes a living off of partisanship, but of limited actual influence.  I blame the actual politicians like Nader and Sanders a whole lot more.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    @dogwood:

    The need to be accepted in some group superseded their moral and intellectual capacities. It’s a sad thing, but also very human.

    It’s why I hang out here.

  49. 49.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    @Barbara:

    I sometimes wonder about NYT’s stable of female journalists

    I hear they keep them in binders now.

  50. 50.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    @Kent:

    But he’s essentially just the lefty version of say Dinesh D’Souza.

    Wow, that’s much meaner than what I said. I salute you!

    and I will never forgive Bernie Sanders. For anything. I saw on MNSBC that he’s going to go on a campaign to warn the country about the dangers of a trump re-election. I hope he doesn’t attract too much attention.

  51. 51.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:41 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: If he can stay on message and be effective, I’ll tolerate it.  Whether I like it or not, a lot of young people listen to him, and we need them to turn out, especially for the Senate.

  52. 52.

    psycholinguist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    If you didn’t see it, back it up to the interpreter signing the lead -in song, it is AWSOME.

  53. 53.

    RaflW

    September 22, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    @Betty Cracker: As a man (albeit a gay man) I will remain angry for life as well.

    I know the electoral mechanisms are different than at the state level, but I hope that this is a crescendo, and that what Don and Mitch are concocting will redound nationally the way what Republicans did in California has worked out for them there.

  54. 54.

    hueyplong

    September 22, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    @Kent: It’s probably true that anyone analogized to Dinesh D’Souza is honor-bound to challenge you to a duel.

  55. 55.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    @Kent: In fairness, Moore hasn’t committed any felonies.

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    @Baud:

    If he can stay on message

    and therein lies the danger… I only see what goes on in Bernie World through the prism of K-Hive twitter, but those fuckers are ready to fuck things up again. I hope someone can get through to him that his time never really existed.

  57. 57.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I got home JUST in time.

    I love the preacher already.

  58. 58.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    @Baud: Yeah, I’m with you on this. Reluctantly, as in “God, I hope Bernie’s learned his lesson.”//

  59. 59.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    hahaha

  60. 60.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @Kent:

    Gore wore earth tones.

  61. 61.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    Ugh, ended up yelling at the rural mail carrier and he was asking me if I was saying his kin were liars.  He said that all the other states besides Illinois were sending out actual ballots to everyone.  Not applications, ballots.  His kinfolk told him so.

  62. 62.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    He did a one-hour Q&A on YouTube, where he was responding to actual questions being sent in and riffed in Trump’s mentality, and it’s brilliant (slower-paced than much comedy we see, but I really loved it).

    The questions were as funny as the answers. His fans submitted questions that almost all began, “Mr. President, Sir, . . .”

  63. 63.

    debbie

    September 22, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    @FelonyGovt:

    Importantly, many young women idolized RBG and are offended. Pity they haven’t noticed yet.

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Oh, I didn’t introduce him — I learned about him from somebody else here. Can’t remember who.

  65. 65.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    @zhena gogolia: That was the Village attack on Gore.  I don’t think the lefties cared as far as I recall.

  66. 66.

    eric

    September 22, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    Both Alito and Thomas are over 70….so there is that.

  67. 67.

    Martin

    September 22, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    @laura: Thank you. It’s also hard because of this accumulation of problems that aren’t getting solved, and when you add in the sort of normal challenges in life (family member in ICU – they’re recovering well), etc. it just winds up being too much.

    I need some things checked off the list.

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    We need to keep an eye on the Lieutenant Governor of Michigan. He seems like a talent worth grooming.

  69. 69.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    @Miss Bianca:

    My hope is that he sees Biden is in for a big win and he wants to take (at least partial) credit.

  70. 70.

    hueyplong

    September 22, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Gore’s earth tones, Obama’s tan suit, Killary’s pant suits, each was disqualifying, to say nothing about the times they went to sleep without flags on the lapels of their pjs.

    Trump’s girdle, lifts, cotton candy hair and racoon spray tan are, of course, He-Man American and a sure augur of a robust economy and foreign policy and keeping projects residents in their place (projects).

  71. 71.

    Tom Levenson

    September 22, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    @Martin: Yup.

    I’m trying to get the energy to post anything. But it is tough.

  72. 72.

    Woodrow/asim

    September 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    I once made the comment that Conservatives ache to find reasons to vote, and Liberals demand to find reasons to stay home.

    Yet that’s facile. It’s also true that Voting is out of reach for a lot of Americans — imagine a working Mom, trying to get to the polls and vote in that tiny window her job allows. Much less, if she’s in an urban area with crap commutes.

    And that’s the kind of subtle-yet-critical Voter Suppression we don’t talk about, but clearly impacts our electorate. It’s why the GOP fights every attempt to make voting easier, and why, going forward, this has to be a crucial effort for not just Democrats as a Party, but Democracy in America.

  73. 73.

    Citizen Alan

    September 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @Kent: 

    So maybe it all leads back to Bill Clinton being unable to keep his pants zipped.

    It is indeed exasperating that Hillary Clinton, the feminist icon of our age, was denied the Presidency in large part because (a) her husband couldn’t keep his pants zipped and (b) one of her best friend’s husband couldn’t keep his pants zipped either. Because in addition to Bill’s peccadillos, if Anthony Weiner hadn’t been a disgusting perv, Huma Abedin’s emails wouldn’t have been subject to an FBI investigation that led to Comey’s fuckery.

  74. 74.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    I was thinking this morning that you haven’t posted in a while. I miss your food pictures. And the critters, of course.

  75. 75.

    Martin

    September 22, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    @Eljai: I’m not either, but we’re rapidly running out of ‘peaceful transition of power’ institutions. I’m very worried about that.  The left is a powder keg and the right has no idea.

  76. 76.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    @Baud: one leftie attack was his mother owned stock in Occidental Petroleum, so he was a fake environmentalist. I honestly can’t remember the others. I’m trying to remember what Nader droned about, what Moore screeched about, what Maher smugged about.

    Oh yeah, Tipper and ratings on records.

  77. 77.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    @eric:  I don’t know if it’s true, but supposedly Thomas HATES the job. I can see him hanging on until either the next Republican President (which hopefully will be at least 12 years) or he dies now. Alito I’m in the same position as Scalia: I’m counting on the cannoli.

  78. 78.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @Betty Cracker: well fk they didn’t even give Garland a chance so both sides.   When Putin hacked Graham’s  computers, I’d love to know what he shared with trump.

    just sayin

  79. 79.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I remember the Tipper issue. Glad we dodged that bullet.

  80. 80.

    Citizen Alan

    September 22, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    @Barbara:

    women of an age and social standing that rewarded them for being dismissive of feminism.

    Well of course they are. It’s the NYT. Women earning a place among the elites through tireless support for the Patriarchy is to be expected there under the leadership of Dean Baquet, who earned a place for himself among the elites through his own tireless support for White Supremacy.

  81. 81.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    Kamala taking on private prisons and cash bail, calling out the economic incentive of jailing.

    I’m not the only one listening right? Where the duck is Leto?

  82. 82.

    hueyplong

    September 22, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    @JPL: Well, we know how Trump handled the intel on Franklin Graham.  He likely had a similar conversation with Lindsey Graham.

  83. 83.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    @Yutsano: I assumed it was over.  I unfortunately have something else to listen to in a few minutes. Glad she’s talking about those issues head on.

  84. 84.

    Mary G

    September 22, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    Oooh, I forgot and missed the first half of this – excited to see it all.

    Did you miss the Princess Bride script read? It was amazing. And now you can watch the recording. Chip in any amount to see it: https://t.co/kpGHAu2VfH https://t.co/DXzlQL1NjY— Ben Wikler (@benwikler) September 22, 2020

  85. 85.

    debbie

    September 22, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    How about this? I don’t think Florida will be working out as Trump expected.

  86. 86.

    Martin

    September 22, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    @hueyplong: The National Enquirer was a Trump asset. It was a scandal bank where information could be deposited and withdrawn at will – and Trump had the keys.

    Trump doesn’t need Russians to blackmail Lindsay

    BTW, if the Biden admin can find leverage there, they have a hell of a case to the public to add justices since the chair of the judiciary was being blackmailed into corrupting the advise and consent role, and there’s no way to impeach those justices without a Dem supermajority in the Senate.

    There’s no way Graham isn’t being blackmailed. It’s only a question of whether evidence for it can be revealed.

  87. 87.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    @Baud: How Stupid White Men Helped Bush win the Presidency

    https://www.theage.com.au/opinion/how-stupid-white-men-helped-bush-win-the-presidency-20040224-gdxdal.html

    In his balanced biography Nader: Crusader, Spoiler, Icon (Basic Books, 2002), Justin Martin documents that although Nader ran on the line that Bush and Gore were like “Tweedledum and Tweedledee”, in fact close observers of his campaign “could not help but notice that he was rougher on Gore”.

    The key feature of Nader’s campaign was the holding of large public rallies at which high-profile entertainment types did the warm-up acts. They included TV host Phil Donahue, actors Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon (who on occasions wore a cute “Babes for Nader” button), singer Ani DiFranco – and Michael Moore. Moore liked to advise audiences that it would make more sense for them to vote for pot plants than Bush or Gore. The joke was that, unlike either candidate, plants generated oxygen. Really.

    It seems that Nader’s dislike for the Democrats was founded in a belief that he was not taken sufficiently seriously by Bill Clinton or Gore. In any event, the likes of Moore and Sarandon gave considerable publicity and credibility to Nader’s campaign. Nowadays, Moore, Sarandon and friends can be heard condemning the consequences of an event they helped determine just over three years ago. Still, Bush’s victory has been good for their careers (no conspiracy implied).

  88. 88.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    @Citizen Alan:It is indeed exasperating that Hillary Clinton, the feminist icon of our age, was denied the Presidency in large part because (a) her husband couldn’t keep his pants zipped and (b) one of her best friend’s husband couldn’t keep his pants zipped either. Because in addition to Bill’s peccadillos, if Anthony Weiner hadn’t been a disgusting perv, Huma Abedin’s emails wouldn’t have been subject to an FBI investigation that led to Comey’s fuckery.

    Forgot about Weiner.  No wonder there were those on the right who liked to call her a “castrating bitch”   In her shoes I’d be getting the burdizzo out too!

  89. 89.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    @Martin:

    @hueyplong: The National Enquirer was a Trump asset. It was a scandal bank where information could be deposited and withdrawn at will – and Trump had the keys.

    Trump doesn’t need Russians to blackmail Lindsay

    BTW, if the Biden admin can find leverage there, they have a hell of a case to the public to add justices since the chair of the judiciary was being blackmailed into corrupting the advise and consent role, and there’s no way to impeach those justices without a Dem supermajority in the Senate.

    There’s no way Graham isn’t being blackmailed. It’s only a question of whether evidence for it can be revealed.

    Maybe.  But do you really think ANY GOP Senator from fucking South Carolina would be voting any differently from Graham?  I seriously doubt it.  He is ordinary replacement level southern GOP.  If he was representing a swing state like PA I’d be a little more suspicious.

  90. 90.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    @Kent: We were forewarned.

  91. 91.

    MomSense

    September 22, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: 
    She is beloved in the knitting/crocheting community. There are stories of crafters who have made some of the lace collars that she has worn. In her honor a new Cowl pattern for both crochet and knitting was released. It’s called I Dissent and I can’t wait to make one.

  92. 92.

    Mary G

    September 22, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    @Martin: Can you tell me the name of your solar panel installers again? I had it bookmarked until my hard drive crashed. When I started kindergarten in 1960, my dad borrowed enough money to buy me 41 shares in “The Television Fund,” which evolved into a technology fund passed around any number of fund providers. I sold half of it at least twice when I had financial emergencies, but it still compounded across 60 years into a bit more than 3,000 shares, and when the market was so high last month I sold 2,000 of them like two days before the market down 100+ points on the Nasdaq. So now I can claim to be a timing genius and have a nice chunk of change to put into my house. Pure luck and scholarships! I think you said you were waiting on the whole house battery?

  93. 93.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:13 pm

    Kamala is smacking around the idea of Wilmer’s idea on how to address wealth inequality.

  94. 94.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:14 pm

    @Yutsano: Specifics?  Not M4A or Free College.  What other idea did Bernie have?

  95. 95.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    @Baud: The orcs have ALWAYS been at the door.  You either fight them or abandon your guard and let them in.

  96. 96.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    @Baud: The wealth tax was Warren’s idea.  Bernie was going to break up the big banks and that was going to “show the 1% he was serious”

  97. 97.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    @Baud: What a world, where we have to depend endlessly on old white men’s ego gratification to get them to do the right thing for the rest of us!

  98. 98.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    @Baud:  She talked about how the real issue is not that the millionayuhs and billionayuhs make too much. The real issue of wealth inequality is that younger people and minorities can’t fairly build equity. She brought up a program to invest in both mostly minority businesses but also to invest in minority home ownership. That’s an important plank. She’s also calling $15 an hour a floor, not just a goal.

    EDIT: now she’s talking about the value of labour especially home health workers. Also addressing paid sick leave AND PAID VACATION. She’s killing it.

  99. 99.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Cindy McCain is going on all three networks in the morning endorsing Biden.

     

    also   I don’t think it moves voters, but I do think trump dissing her husband because of the endorsement will.

  100. 100.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    @JPL:  Annnd Arizona is officially gone.

    EDIT: Oh damn she’s throwing Dolt45 against the wall over his failure on the early Covid pandemic. Talking about how he knew about the severity of the epidemic but told the country something else. Angry Kamala was ANGRY.

  101. 101.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    @Kent:

    in fact close observers of his campaign “could not help but notice that he was rougher on Gore”.

    Nader didn’t run for President, he ran against Gore, just as Perot ran against Bush, and Bernie ran against Hillary Clinton

  102. 102.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    @JPL: Nice. I obviously don’t care about her, but the McCain name will move the media.  I hope she dishes on Trump on a personal level.

  103. 103.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @Yutsano: that also..

    I edited to my comment to mention trump will diss McCain once again which can move voters.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 22, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @Baud: odds are trump will go after her

    I wonder how her shrieking oaf of a daughter will handle that, and Uncle Linds

  105. 105.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m sure there’s some way this is the Dems’ fault.

  106. 106.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    I REALLY like Garlin Gilchrist*! I’m not kidding: this guy is a future something on the national stage!

    *Lieutenant Governor of Michigan

  107. 107.

    lamh36

    September 22, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    HA!

    Love it

    @tylerpager

    SCOOP: Pete Buttigieg is playing Mike Pence in debate prep with Kamala Harris plus more details on the team working with the vice presidential nominee

    https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1308531067054366720

  108. 108.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:30 pm

    “Why do you think they’re trying to suppress the vote of Black people? Because when we vote things change!”

    I keep loving her more.

    It’s over.

    EDIT: actually, where’s Omnes? He’s as much a Kamala stan as I am, if not more.

  109. 109.

    lamh36

    September 22, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    @lamh36: and Pence is reportedly using Scott Walker for debate prep…smh. Guess Mother won’t let him debate prep with an actual GOP female pol…smh

  110. 110.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    This is GA.. trump is running non stop ads against Joe and has been for months.  I haven’t seen a Joe ad, but today the AJC showed the race tied.   Just now, the local state house senator canvassed my neighborhood.  That has never happened, and it’s shocking because I don’t even know who is running against him.  Of course I will vote for who ever is running against him, but the internal polling must say something I’m not seeing.   At least I hope so.

  111. 111.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    @lamh36: Heh.

  112. 112.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    @lamh36: BWAH HA HA, that’s awesome.

    You know, I wasn’t that psyched about Buttigieg the candidate, but I really appreciate how enthusiastically he’s been jumping in to help post-candidacy.

    I hope there’s a spot in the Biden/Harris Administration for him somewhere.

  113. 113.

    lamh36

    September 22, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    @JPL: I saw someone on twitter talking about Lieberman’s son in GA drawing votes away from Osoff?  What’s that about?

  114. 114.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 22, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    @lamh36: I’m sure most of Walker’s answers start “As a sassy black woman who’s not actually black and totally panders, I’m sassily saying: Sass. Let me clear: Sass and disrespect to the white guys over there.”

  115. 115.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    @lamh36: for the win.

  116. 116.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 22, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    @lamh36: It’s a jungle primary. Liebermans’ kid is also running and really far behind, but is sucking enough support away that the other Dem candidate (which I thought was Warnock for some reason) that the Dem may not qualify for the general, etc.

    EDIT: Yep, Matt Lieberman is competing against Warnock in the jungle primary/general. Ossoff seems like he has an alliance with Warnock, but I’m not aware of Matt Lieberman explicitly kneecapping Ossoff.

  117. 117.

    zhena gogolia

    September 22, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    @lamh36:

    I hope Pete has studied JL Cauvin’s impression and is ready to deploy the phrase “Mr. President, your bold leadership . . .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVj2hQK41qk

  118. 118.

    Yutsano

    September 22, 2020 at 6:40 pm

    @JPL:  I have seen Kamala interact with a mostly Black audience. She really needs to do events like she just did in Michigan down there. That would ignite the Black vote down there like nothing else. Hell do a sweep of the South. That might just push Jones and Espy over the top.

  119. 119.

    lamh36

    September 22, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: I mean unless Pence has debated a woman before, you would think, the debate prep would involve some part of trying to not insult even GOP women voters. Biden was pitch perfect debating Palin because he prepped with Dem female pols to smooth out edges

  120. 120.

    lamh36

    September 22, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: oh yes…I meant Warnock…sorry

  121. 121.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    @Yutsano: 

    I second that emotion.

  122. 122.

    lamh36

    September 22, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    @Yamiche

    President Trump on 200,000 Americans having died from COVID-19: “I think it’s a shame. I think if we didn’t do it properly and do it right you’d have two and half million deaths. … China should have stopped it. … I think it’s a horrible thing.”

    “It’s a shame”

  123. 123.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 6:50 pm

    @lamh36:  He appears better than his dad but pulling down the democratic party will leave him with few friends.   I’m still hoping that he drops out even though the ballots are printed.

  124. 124.

    Mai Naem mobile

    September 22, 2020 at 6:51 pm

    @Yutsano: AZ has been gone for a while. It’s a combo of Governor Ducey being bullied by El Orange Lumpo into reopening early, high cost of living Californian refugee population spiking big time here and brownization of the population. We still have the rednecks/LDSrs who dominate the rural areas but Maricopa County(Metro Phx) has had such huge growth that it overwhelms the rural areas. I am a little concerned about the Native American reservations because of COVID and the ban on ballot harvesting – especially on the Navajo and Hopi reservations where people live far from each other so voting in person is hard. Janet Napolitano’s gubernatorial wins were based on getting out enough votes from southern AZ and the Navajo Rez to make up for the rural red.

  125. 125.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: 
    I’ve not been cooking so much as assembling meals. Here’s a little kitteh. She has been known to snap at fingers so I had to admonish her.

  126. 126.

    Baud

    September 22, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    Fauci says Navajo Nation’s COVID -19 response could be model for US

  127. 127.

    Kent

    September 22, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    You know, I wasn’t that psyched about Buttigieg the candidate, but I really appreciate how enthusiastically he’s been jumping in to help post-candidacy.

    I hope there’s a spot in the Biden/Harris Administration for him somewhere.

    He’s my pick to run the Department of Commerce, my old agency.  It is the most tech-oriented agency in the government.

  128. 128.

    Geminid

    September 22, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    @lamh36: Ossoff is the Democratic candidate running against incumbent David Perdue in the regular Ga. Senate election. Raphael Warnock, Matt Lieberman, and Ed Tarver are the three main Democratic candidates in the special election to fill retired Senator Johnny Isaacsons seat. It’s a “jungle primary,” to be decided by a runoff Jan. 5. Two republicans, appointed Senator Kelly Loeffler are having a nice red-on-red brawl on the republican side.  Tarver, a former federal prosecutor and State Senator, and Liberman, former educator and current businessman, filed some months before Stacey Abrams talked Pastor Warnock into running. So, Lieberman and Tarver did not start out as spoilers, but their names will be mud if Warnock pulls ahead and one does not drop out. It’s possible for both Collins and Loefler to advance to the runoff if the Democratic vote is split. I think there are 15 other candidates besides the 5 leaders.

  129. 129.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2020 at 6:58 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    She is a gorgeous girl. I have a weakness for calicos. (Calicoes? Both look wrong. Start again.)

    I have a weakness for calico cats.

  130. 130.

    Martin

    September 22, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    @Mary G:

    https://aikyum.com

    Female owned company. Wonderful to work with. Highly recommended.

  131. 131.

    Sloane Ranger

    September 22, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    CNN reporting that Biden has said that Cindy McCain will be endorsing him. I hope she’s not going to have 2nd thoughts. If she does it may be an error on his part.

    If she keeps her word,it’s going to be a bit embarrassing for the daughter’s TV career as professional Republican.

    Would an endorsement by John McCain’s widow make any difference to soft Republicans/Independents? Or are they old news now?

  132. 132.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    @Kent: I have heard others say that, too – sounds good to me!

  133. 133.

    Miss Bianca

    September 22, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I too, calicos and tortoise shells. I had a lovely calico cat for 18 years, still miss her.

  134. 134.

    Geminid

    September 22, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    @Geminid: That’s Kelly Loeffler and Doug Collins (Idiot-Habersham) having the brawl in the Ga. special election.

  135. 135.

    JPL

    September 22, 2020 at 7:08 pm

    @Geminid: I know and L Lieberman is much better than his dad. At this point because Loeffler went all Attila the Hun, I think Warnock would be better. The contrast would be amazing.
    now I’ll be mocked.. I was for the other Stacy. She truly was a rags to not riches but successful person. The hope scholarship and teachers saved her.

  136. 136.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    I thought you said taco shells at first glance.

  137. 137.

    Geminid

    September 22, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    @lamh36: Pete Buttegiege should be a good debate prep sparring partner for Harris. He knows Pence, having dealt with him as South Bend mayor when Pence was governor. The local Republican congressman said they both got along fine.

  138. 138.

    Geminid

    September 22, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    @JPL: No shame in picking one good primary candidate over another. My Virginia district had four solid candidates in this year’s congressional primary. I did not vote for the winner, Cameron Webb, but now I’m pretty sure 5th district Democrats made the best choice. It was a very amicable contest; the candidates didn’t get together and sing “Kumbaya,” but they might as well have.

  139. 139.

    Another Scott

    September 22, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you for that.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  140. 140.

    Mary G

    September 22, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Martin: Thanks!

  141. 141.

    J R in WV

    September 22, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    The hideous implications for the country aside, losing RBG felt like the loss of a favorite aunt, in a sense. It felt personal, and I know I’m not alone in that.

    Very much like the loss of a Great Aunt, and I do mean “Great” in the sense of fabulous, amazing, creative, wonderful. My aunts would all be over a hundred years old now, as I am nearly 70.

    But Notorious RBG was everyone’s great aunt, everyone who believes in liberty, freedom, equality, which is my/our formal slogan for American life!

  142. 142.

    J R in WV

    September 22, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Oh, and practically dancing on the grave of one of the most admired and beloved feminist icons who ever lived into the bargain. I’m going to be pissed off about that for the rest of my life, and so are millions of other women.

    First, McConnell can’t dance at all. No sense of rhythm whatsoever.

    Also, I’m pissed off about his disrespect of Justice Notorious RBG, and I’m an old progressive liberal yellow dog Democrat– loved Ruth Bader Ginsburg for her whole life, or at least since I was aware of her. She was older than I am…

    ;-) no offense offered or intended, please!

  143. 143.

    Ian

    September 22, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I heard the news today that he has enough votes too.  It is immensely telling that 50 Republicans have came out and said they will vote to confirm Trumps nominee when he has not come out and said who the nominee even will be.  Guess that whole ‘advice and consent’ of the Senate thing isn’t that important to them.

  144. 144.

    J R in WV

    September 22, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    @Baud:

    In fairness, Moore hasn’t committed any felonies.

    That you (we) know of, don’t you mean? We don’t know what we don’t know, do we?

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