Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The willow is too close to the house.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

T R E 4 5 O N

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

People are complicated. Love is not.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

White supremacy is terrorism.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Second rate reporter says what?

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

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What food product would you throw at fascists if you could?

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  1. 1.

    Anonymous At Work

    As if there was any question about what to throw…”P.U. Stinkbait”, the original problem with O.G. catfishing.

  2. 2.

    germy

    What food product would you throw at fascists if you could?

    A thrown pie will rob its recipient of his dignity.

  7. 7.

    AnotherBruce

    Thanks for reporting whatever Trump hocks up out of his pie hole. Do we really have to listen to what a malignant idiot has to say? Ignore this bullshit.

  10. 10.

    Wapiti

    Food product… it’s plum season in Seattle. All of my neighbors and family with trees are trying to give me product. My neighbor to the south gave us two dozen. An hour later my brother texted, letting me know he left 3 dozen on the back porch. (in a lightweight cardboard box).

    After they sat on the counter for a week, they started self-pressing. So we picked up the box; the soggy bottom collapsed, and there were a few moldy plums among the mix suddenly on the counter.

    And no fascist targets visible. Ah well, another sacrifice to the compost god.

  16. 16.

    Betty Cracker

    @Phylllis: Big WTF moment for me when I read that this morning. I like that brand and didn’t realize it was owned by racist assholes. Guess I’ll have to make my own pimento cheese going forward. Oh well, it’s not hard to do.

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    I would use Woosh Innovations’ salmon cannon to shoot rotten fish at all of the Kremlin’s bitches.  Fucking fascists, all of them.

  23. 23.

    gene108

    I cannot decide between Hákarl (Icelandic fermented shark) or Surströmming (Swedish fermented herring).

  25. 25.

    Saintlywife

    I spent almost 4 weeks evacuated from my Hurricane Laura-ravaged hometown of Lake Charles, LA. We just got power back on in my neighborhood.  I’d love to throw the contents of my freezer at them, if I could somehow catapult it without smelling it myself!

  28. 28.

    Phylllis

    @Betty Cracker: Same. Their packaging was deceptive as hell, and you can’t convince me it wasn’t deliberate, with the Black lady on the label & the story about the family recipe. Here I was thinking I was supporting a Black-owned mom & pop business; duped all the way around.

    Try the Mt. Pilot pimento cheese recipe from Aunt Bee’s Mayberry Cookbook. My favorite.

  36. 36.

    ciotogist

    According to Gavin de Becker, including “unnecessary details,” like the exact brand of tuna fish, is a sign that a predator is speaking. They add those details because they know they’re lying and want to sound plausible.

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Tom Levenson:

    Balut.

    I was two minutes ago years old when I learned about balut, and now I want to get in a time machine, go back three minutes, and make a different choice that doesn’t involve googling.

  41. 41.

    AnotherBruce

    @TaMara (HFG): Why do you assume that I’m attacking you? I made a general point about the media. I made that comment early in the thread. I didn’t know how the thread was going to turn out. Why so harsh?

  42. 42.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    It’s the wrong question; the correct question is asking our conservative friends  what food product they fear the most from us.  After all, are we liberals not the touch feely ones. we should invite our Most Serious conservative Betters share with us these fears.

  44. 44.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    Six minutes on the Louisville announcement. I’m in the American lounge at CLT, so I’ve missed the joys of my shut down city this week.

    Hopefully, we can remove the boards – I’ve been considering a total relocation to a blue state as things have so dried up.

  48. 48.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    And I’m not speaking to my RWNJ mother. She’s text bombing me.

  50. 50.

    Kent

    Jar of stink eggs.   They are fermented salmon eggs made by Alaska natives.  You take salmon eggs, soak them in seal oil and place them in a porous cloth (seal skin) and bury them. They stay underground for two or three months at which time they ferment. Then they are dug up and eaten.  It is an acquired taste to say the least.

  52. 52.

    Miss Bianca

    I think the disgusting glob of fat, gristle, meat and ribs from God-Know-What-and-Where that I just wrested away from Roxy the Wolf Girl – after two days of her brooding over it like a carnivorous mother hen – would be my missile o’choice.

    Now I gotta remember to dispose of it today somewhere else than in the back of D’s truck, where it currently resides…

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    Camo-clad motherfuckers armed with AR-15s take siege on a state capitol building and Trump’s trying to scare us with canned food flingers?

  65. 65.

    FelonyGovt

    Got to be something very exotic and foreign. Or maybe lattes and sushi courtesy of us coastal elites.

  66. 66.

    trollhattan

    Like mother unalike daughter.

    Democrat Joe Biden said Tuesday that Cindy McCain plans to endorse him for president, a stunning rebuke of President Donald Trump by the widow of the GOP’s 2008 nominee.

    Trump has had a fraught relationship with members of John McCain’s family since he disparaged the Arizona senator during his 2016 campaign. But the McCains have stopped short of endorsing Trump’s rivals.

    Cindy McCain’s backing could help Biden appeal to Republicans disaffected with the GOP president and give the former vice president a boost in Arizona, a crucial swing state that McCain represented in Congress for 35 years. He’s remained a revered figure since his 2018 death from complications of a brain tumor, particularly with the independent voters whom Biden is courting.

    Biden told donors on Tuesday evening that McCain’s endorsement was coming “because of what (Trump) talks about how my son and John and others who are heroes, who served their country. You know, he said they’re ‘losers, suckers.’ ”

  67. 67.

    TaMara (HFG)

    @AnotherBruce: No worries, I was trying to navigate giving people a safe place for a while and still understand that some of us are beyond levity when it comes to the orange disease. We are all a raw nerve away from the edge of despair these days.

  68. 68.

    Chief Oshkosh

    Throwing rotten tomatoes and cabbage is traditional. Followed up by tar and feathering. Then running ’em out of town on a rail.

    I think I got that right…

  70. 70.

    Marcopolo

    Not my idea but saw it suggested on twitter yesterday:

    Spotted Dick

    I don’t think I’ve actually ever seen it on a grocery shelf (have definitely never eaten it) but if you threw it you could say, “I hit them with my spotted dick.”

    Sent out my “time to vote email to my Missouri friends” this morning. I’m thinking by the end of the week we’ll be looking at over 1M votes cast:

    #earlyvote update 9/23At least 368,454 people have voted in the 2020 general election https://t.co/s8K2xFDeSA pic.twitter.com/OGADtcEesu— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) September 23, 2020

  71. 71.

    gene108

    I think, going beyond cans, is to take stinky foods and liquify them. Pour them into balloons, and then chuck them at your enemies making the reek so badly they cannot stand their own smell.

  72. 72.

    Miss Bianca

    @RobertB: It looks like a giant McRib, actually, but with an extra layer of fat on top, about the size of a catcher’s mitt, and, oh…raw.

    Just super glad that both the flies and the bears opted not to visit us on its account.

  75. 75.

    Ken

    @gene108: Poul Anderson’s Operation Chaos had a similar idea, except chemists were involved so the mix included skatole, putrescine, cadaverine, mercaptans, and a few others.  I think they added something to make it harder to wash off, too.

    Illegal nowadays, I’m sure, since some of those compounds are known to be toxic.

  78. 78.

    CarolDuhart2

    @Marcopolo: And the only reason we aren’t already there is that some states haven’t opened up yet and a lot of people are waiting to get their ballots.  But the number is amazing.  And supports my intuition that the election may be practically decided by 10/10.

  79. 79.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @Chief Oshkosh: Sorry, I mis-read the question. Throwing pineapples at fascists was quite popular the last time they caused problems on a global scale.

    For run-of-the-mill scoundrel politicians, the weapons of choice traditionally were rotten tomatoes and cabbage.

  80. 80.

    Just Chuck

    And here I thought I was going to be first to say Durian.  The odor is nice (er, for the purpose) but the spikes are also a bonus.

     

    And to think, some 40% of voters are still going to pull the lever for this fucking insane babbling idiot.

  83. 83.

    clay

    @Betty Cracker: It’s an insulting indictment.  Wanton endangerment due to shooting into neighbors’ apartments.  One cop only.

    No charge due to, you know, the actual murder of an actual person.

  85. 85.

    p.a.

    Alley biscuit (brick ?)

    Open thread, hive mind question: glucosamine/chondroitin: works, or just turns into expensive urine (h/t Sheldon of BBT)?

  86. 86.

    Bruuuuce

    @Yutsano: Good call! I remember hearing about it on the original Iron Chef, and am very glad in retrospect that I only saw, and did not smell, the dishes prepared with it.

  90. 90.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @clay:

    I personally know one of the special prosecutors- solid guy. There were definite legal and factual reasons for this to go down this way; at least one person who should have been dealt with on this wasn’t a subject at the GJ at all (he prepared the warrant application), so his ass is still in the barrel.

    I’ll add this – there is no SOL on Kentucky felonies. The other two had best tread very carefully in supporting their asshole brother in blue, because they’re still in a jam – he can’t count on their support at trial.

  92. 92.

    Leto

    @Phylllis:  I grew up with that shit. It’s a war crime to make people eat it.

    Food product: molasses. Super sticky, coats everything, hard to get off, plus the broken shards of glass are another fun item (and yes I know that’s a Geneva convention violation. Fuck’em.)

  93. 93.

    mali muso

    Another vote for team durian.  Big spiky HARD fruit on the outside with incredibly noxious smelling pulp on the inside (the fumes last).

  95. 95.

    Hungry Joe

    @trollhattan: Re “camo-clad motherfuckers … “: That’s not camo — it’s just clothing with a bunch of leaf-like images (or sand-/rock-like images) on it. Camouflage makes the wearer, or the machinery, or whatever blend into its surroundings. These guys are in the city, so their camo should have, maybe, the image of a parking meter post on one leg, and part of a trash can on the other. The shirt could be either green and black, so that the local patriots will blend into a Starbucks, or dark gray with blue slash so that they can stand next to an Amazon van and just … disappear.

    ”Camo.” Please.

  98. 98.

    Betty Cracker

    @clay: Was just reading that. Terrible.

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I read something about the case yesterday, can’t remember where. It implied Taylor’s ex-boyfriend was being targeted by the cops not because he was some dangerous kingpin but rather because he was somehow in the way of a development deal. Do you think there’s any truth to that?

  103. 103.

    Leto

    @Marcopolo: When we lived in England, I had spotted dick a few times. Even though I laughed like a 5 year old at the name, it wasn’t bad. Most English desserts are pretty nice, even when they have funky names.

  105. 105.

    Martin

    CA just banned the sale of gas powered (non-zero emission) passenger vehicles by 2035. Asked the legislature for a bill to ban fracking.

  106. 106.

    M31

    @Yutsano: hahaah count me in as another one who has only heard of natto because of the old Iron Chef episode, and glad to never have come across it in the wild

    mmm sticky tendrils

  108. 108.

    M31

    hahaha Bumblebee has already tweeted ‘eat it, don’t throw it’

    Not yet as woke as Steak-ums, but it’s a start

  112. 112.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Czar Chasm: Oh goddammit. I was hoping no one would post that. It’s the worst fucking earworm ever.

    Fun story, as my high school senior prank I actually found a way to tap into the PA system from one of the men’s bathroom stalls (they had really lazy wiring). Left that song on repeat with a cheap MP3 player, and it took them 25 minutes to shut it down. It was hell for everyone.

  113. 113.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Miss Bianca: Spotted Dick was a standard dessert in school meals when I was growing up. It’s certainly very filling and no worse tasting than rice pudding and jam rolly polly (other standards). My favourite was Bread and Butter Pudding

  114. 114.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @Betty Cracker:

    Its a little far fetched. I’d been hired for about two minutes for something involving that neighborhood 30 some-odd years ago, and suddenly got cast to the wind, but that involved the direct expenditure of significant redevelopment dollars and was vaguely understandable. The theory I heard about this one makes zero sense and is too indirect to be believable.

  115. 115.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    @Martin:

    Holy shit! This just reminded me that Jello Biafra ran on banning cars from the SF during his joke mayoral campaign

  120. 120.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @Baud:

    I think it really difficult. There have been some major policy concessions as the result of this and I suspect that the FOP is going to learn that they really overplayed their hand for the past 30 years or so when they renegotiate, but insofar as crimes are concerned, it’s hard to make.

    Frankly, I want that 12 mil settlement to come up in conversation every time FOP talks about city contributions to their retirement.

    I also want a total ban on moonlighting, just because.

    Back when I was a PD over 30 years ago, police brutalization over those who were arrested was common knowledge and the subject of countless ironic jokes, but without any way to prove it, there was simply nothing to be done. Now, we have more in the way of video, and are struggling to shift the public narrative away from “selfless, brave public spirited heroes in uniform” to something realistic.  I blame a lot on movies and TV.

  121. 121.

    Soprano2

    Jesus Fucking Christ I read that Atlantic article, and now I’m kind of sorry I did. I guess better to be forewarned and forearmed than not, but hell now I’m not going to sleep well for months. Voting isn’t going to be enough, Biden has to have a massive legal team that’s ready to go toe-to-toe with Trump’s people over ballots. Scary, scary, terrifying shit.

  122. 122.

    JoyceH

    @mali muso: Another vote for team durian. Big spiky HARD fruit on the outside with incredibly noxious smelling pulp on the inside (the fumes last).

    I actually tried durian once. I’d seen an episode of The Food Hunter about it. (“This is Pete Luckett, your traveling greengrocer…”) Was at an Asian market and there was a big pile of them and I was curious. The Food Hunter episode had someone describe it as ‘like eating custard in a sewer’. So – I tried it. Cut it open and portioned out a bit. Ate a few bites. Hey, this isn’t bad, kinda sweet… And then the smell arrived and grew and grew… I dumped the serving and the entire rest of the durian into a plastic bag and tied it up. Put the plastic bag in another plastic bag, and tied it up. Several more plastic bags. And then I set the whole mess out in the garage until trash day.

  125. 125.

    thruppence

    @p.a.:  Anecdotal only, but it seems to have helped me. I work nights standing up, over sixty and overweight, my ankles were killing me. Now they only bitch and grumble. Losing weight will help more, but that is a slow process. YMMV, but good luck.

  131. 131.

    J R in WV

    @p.a.: 

    Open thread, hive mind question: glucosamine/chondroitin: works, or just turns into expensive urine

    My family practice and gerontologist doc thinks the anecdotal evidence is so strong that there is no question that it helps. Cost/benefit analysis, who knows? It isn’t prohibitively expensive, tho.

  134. 134.

    Just Chuck

    @p.a.: glucosamine chews seemed to help my old cat.  He was able to jump up onto the bed again after we started feeding it to him.  Placebo effect seems unlikely in pets, and I see no reason it wouldn’t work on humans.

    My mother who was an RN and normally didn’t take supplements liked the stuff too, though she said it won’t perform miracles.  So there’s my two points of anecdata.

  137. 137.

    cain

    @Martin:

    That’s pretty awesome – I suspect the northwest to follow suit – the entire west coast is fairly well wired for electric cars.

    Tesla is going to clean up – but you can get the other auto manufacturers have something on the assembly line fairly quick.

    The south and the midwest will be the only folks who will be lagging behind. They’ll be all pissy too because all the jobs are gonna be green jobs regardless of who is president.

  138. 138.

    trollhattan

    @Benw: @J R in WV:

    At the local Italian market recently I found canned haggis in THREE varieties. I’d have impulse-bought one (but: which flavor?) had it not been $12/can.

  139. 139.

    trollhattan

    @cain:

    IIUC the Germans are poised to jump into the e-car market in a big way and domestically, the Chevy Bolt is already very competitive WRT range and performance.

  142. 142.

    JoyceH

    @FelonyGovt: My husband swears glucosamine/condroitin (sp?) helps him. Don’t know if that’s real or placebo effect.

    It’s real. Every time I stop taking my glucosamine, after about a week, my knees start to hurt. And it’s not placebo, because the times I stop taking it, I’m usually in some sort of crisis mode and not thinking about joints at all.

  143. 143.

    Martin

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: There’s more there than people might realize, but there’s a LOT of packaging and regulation needed.

    The state of the art charging at a commercial station gets you ~20 miles per minute. A standard gas stop is 2-3 minutes, so an equivalent EV stop would get you about 40 miles of range. A full 300 mile charge would be 15 minutes.

    If homeowners and renters with garages/carports can charge at home, then the demand for those commercial chargers will be relatively small. Municipal street lights can be converted to moderate speed chargers given the surplus of capacity thanks to the move to LED streetlights (those are surprisingly beefy circuits).

    And of course, mass transit buildout.

    The power generation isn’t really a problem. Stations aren’t really a problem – the state is already having the automakers/oil companies pay for their sins through charging build-out. Mandating that all EVs have that state of the art charging needs to happen, municipal build-out will take some work and allocation of dollars, regulations on home chargers for renters needs some work.

    Not easy, but feasible.

  145. 145.

    Nutmeg again (formerly MoxieM)

    @JCJ: Yeah, Durian Cream Pie. (when I was in Jakarta a long while ago, Durian cream donuts were on the menu at the Dunkins. Worst mix of east and west.)

    Alternately, the classic rotten eggs. If you have good aim.

  146. 146.

    Nora Lenderbee

    My sister is a physical therapist and she says that glucosamine and chondroitin have helped her patients, unlike other supplements. She’s very level-headed and not woo-woo at all.

  147. 147.

    JoyceH

    BTW, since we’re on the subject of joints, time for a Public Service Announcement. Even if you have arthritis, even if you’ve seen the x-rays and are ‘bone on bone’, do NOT assume that every problem you have with your knees is arthritis.

    I limped for literally a decade before I went to a physical therapist and learned that, yes, I have arthritis, but the reason my right knee popped painfully when I bent and straightened it was because my kneecap was out of alignment. We worked on it in therapy for a few months, and now I walk limp-free and my bone-on-bone knees only hurt when I overexert myself. And when the backs of my knees hurt, I know it’s tight hamstrings and know what to do about it. Like my therapist said, “Not every knee pain is a joint pain.”

    Basically, if you have bad knees, even if you’re thinking total knee replacement – see a physical therapist first!

  148. 148.

    Soprano2

    I’ve taken glucosamine sulfate for a long time, and it does help my back problems. My chiropractor didn’t think the chondroitin actually did anything helpful, so he told me to take just glucosamine. My husband takes MSM and swears by it. We’ve also used MSM for our dogs when they have a hard time getting up and down, and it does seem to help their joint problems some.

  149. 149.

    Miss Bianca

    @Sloane Ranger: I’ve always wanted to try it – I am a fan of English “pud”.

    At least, that’s what a late boyfriend – almost husband! – from Portsmouth used to cry routinely after dinner: “What’s for pud?”

    He used to lament the fact that he couldn’t find suet in American grocery stores except for bird food. He explained that suet was an integral ingredient for English desserts.

    Damn it, now I’m missing Mike. He died a few years ago from cancer of the appendix, of all things, which I’m given to understand is very rare and equally deadly. : (

  150. 150.

    Juju

    I have a can of spotted dick that my nieces and nephew gave me as a joke  now I know what to do with it.

  151. 151.

    Betty Cracker

    We started giving our elderly dog glucosamine recently, and I can tell it’s helping. She has a much easier time on the stairs. There’s zero chance of a placebo effect because…she’s a dog!

  154. 154.

    lowtechcyclist

    Shit is a food product, defined as something that is produced from food.  So that’s my choice.

  155. 155.

    Czar Chasm

    @MisterForkbeard: HAHAHAHAAAA

     

    My 5 year-old daughter & 18 month-old son adore it, & she’s now asking for more ska to explore.

     

    My partner…is glad that I’m helping her raise our kids.

  156. 156.

    Nutmeg again (formerly MoxieM)

    @Betty Cracker: Yep!  I brought one of my dogs for acupuncture–I swear it gave her an extra year of life. At 130 lbs, she needed to be able to walk, the sweetie.  She looooved being needled, and no placebo effect, either!

  157. 157.

    JoyceH

    @Nutmeg again (formerly MoxieM): Oh, ditto on acupuncture! My sister had a cat that had a bad hip – she was a rescue, so uncertain if she’d been born with it, or injured it on the street. But the upshot was that sometimes Ada would have seizures – she’d fall over and thrash around and scream and pee. Was harrowing! Jane took her to an acupuncturist, and that cleared up the seizures. So long as she had her maintenance needling about once a month, no seizures. And, she was a cat. That’s why I believe in acupuncture. Cats don’t do placebos.

  159. 159.

    Jay

    @p.a.:

    worked well on my dogs when they got older, worked well when  I was rock climbing.

    talapia, poo fish, wrapped in 6 layers of rice paper, and well aged. It takes about 6 months for it to age out of it’s own wrapper, can be left like a time bomb in the HVAC ducts, and the result from the smell, is that you are actually heaving, microseconds later. Makes it’s own sticky soap in the process, so tough to clean off.

    Safe to throw until about 4 months old, after that the wrapper is dodgy.

  162. 162.

    bluefoot

    Foodstuffs for fascists: I’m a traditionalist and would go for rotten tomatoes.  Easy to obtain, easy to throw, won’t actually hurt anyone if my aim is bad, and make a nice mess.

    If I were sure of hitting only fascists?  Hm, something sticky that would stain.

  163. 163.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: Yeah, the color intensity isn’t the best way to show what’s happening.

    As I understand it, the color intensity is the total fraction of all votes received to date (not just Democratic = blue).

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

    has more information.

    Note the table below the graph – Democrats are leading the GOP by a large margin, in the 3 states that have party ID declared.

    tl;dr – North Carolina has the most early votes returned so far.

    HTH.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  166. 166.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    How can anyone eat haggis (sheep’s heart, liver and lungs, and stomach ground together) ?

  169. 169.

    JaySinWA

    The Flight of the Bumblebee cans means my stockpile food not guns & ammo policy may actually be a dual use policy.

    ETA this thread is probably as dead as a mackerel.

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