RBG ad worth a watch until the very end and retweet pic.twitter.com/LjjxO3T7b2
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 19, 2020
Good news (for now):
House passes bipartisan spending bill to avert government shutdown after Pelosi reaches deal with Treasury's Mnuchin https://t.co/6XfZTUWRv8
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 23, 2020
The House overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan bill late Tuesday to keep the government funded through early December and avoid a shutdown just before the November election.
The 359-to-57 vote sends the legislation to the Senate, which could take it up later this week and send it to President Trump. White House officials say they don’t want a shutdown, and Trump is expected to sign the bill, though he’s wavered at the last minute in such scenarios in the past.
The deal was negotiated by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin in a chaotic series of events over the past several days. Talks abruptly collapsed late Friday just as a deal appeared within reach, and Pelosi released a partisan bill on Monday that was swiftly rejected by Republicans. But on Tuesday morning, Pelosi and Mnuchin resumed negotiations, and Pelosi announced late Tuesday that they had reached a deal.
The sticking point was demands from the Trump administration and Republicans — along with a handful of largely farm-state House Democrats — for an infusion of money into a farm bailout program that Trump has used to repay farmers hurt by his trade policies. In exchange for agreeing to the bailout money, Pelosi secured about $8 billion for a variety of nutrition programs, including for schoolchildren affected by the coronavirus pandemic — a significantly larger sum than had been on the table Friday…
There was no immediate comment from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), but in light of the strong vote in the House, the Senate looked likely to approve the legislation.
Congress needs to pass a spending bill by Sept. 30, the last day in the 2020 fiscal year, or large portions of the government would begin to shut down. The bill also must be signed by Trump ahead of the shutdown deadline…
Trump gets his slush fund, Pelosi ensures the most vulnerable won’t suffer more than they are already. McConnell pretends he has no idea what that other legislative body might be doing, and Chief of Staff Mark Meadows confirms his status as a human speed bump.
Additional notes per the AP:
… The measure also extends many programs whose funding or authorizations lapse on Sept. 30, including the federal flood insurance program, highway and transit programs, and a long set of extensions of various health programs, such as a provision to prevent Medicaid cuts to hospitals that serve many poor people.
It also finances the possible transition to a new administration if Joe Biden wins the White House and would stave off an unwelcome COVID-caused increase in Medicare Part B premiums for outpatient doctor visits.
The underlying stopgap measure deals with the 30% of the federal government’s day-to-day budget that goes to Cabinet agency operations funded by Congress each year. The annual appropriations process broke down in the Senate this year and it’s unclear but probably unlikely that the $1.3 trillion in agency spending bills will be enacted this year, even in a post-election lame duck session, especially if Biden is elected to replace Trump…
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
rikyrah
Appreciate your commentary AL?
OzarkHillbilly
DEMs can take hostages too.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
And boy, had they better!
Emma from FL
Nancy knows politics. Nancy also carries a nutcracker.
Betty Cracker
@Emma from FL: Thank dog she’s there! It’s pretty clear Pelosi is keeping the lights on, with Mnuchin doing all the presidenting the Trump admin is capable of, which isn’t much.
mrmoshpotato
@debbie: Turtle soup.
Gin & Tonic
Women are also the face of the public protests in Belarus, where this morning Lukashenko held a self-inauguration. In private, not broadcast on TV. That’s always the mark of a powerful and confident leader, amirite? Crowds almost as big as Trump’s.
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: I for one am happy to see it. Just yesterday people were calling it the dumbest things DEMs had ever done. Nancy just has NFLTG.
Jinchi
@OzarkHillbilly: Wait. What was the hostage they took? Pelosi got a deal to keep the government open for another 2 months. Which is good, but hardly an 11-dimensional chess move. Did anyone think Republicans wanted to shut down the government a month before the election?
Goku (Amerikan Baka)
@Gin & Tonic:
Is Lukashenko just hoping this will all go away? I don’t think that’s going to happen
prostratedragon
He’s such a gossamer little flower.
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Gin & Tonic
@Goku (Amerikan Baka): I believe he’s planning to just tough it out.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
I should have done this.
OzarkHillbilly
@Jinchi:
“No farm aid without helping schoolchildren.”
Baud
Duh. Appropriations aren’t judges.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
What was?
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: But if there is no appropriation bill, how do the judges get paid? Wait a minute… Duuuuhhhhh, kickbacks of course! trump judges get the biggest beautifulest kickbacks in the history of kickbacks!
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: passing a bill without aid to farmers.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Hmm. Nancy not helping farmers is dumb, but the GOP not helping children is just good politics, I guess.
Betty Cracker
Looks like the RonJon-Grassley report is another dud:
I’m sure they’ll just lie about the content on camera. That’s what Rubio did. Bill Barr set the standard with the Mueller report.
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: You still can.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Yep. The little brats are misbehaving anyway.
johnnybuck
@Baud: Kids don’t vote.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
It’s all aid to farmers. Nutrition aid is aid to farmers. Farmers sell food. If there are fewer people who can afford to buy food, they sell less food, which is bad for them. It boggles my mind how many farmers are pro subsidy but anti SNAP because they can’t look a couple steps down the demand chain and see that those SNAP recipients wouldn’t buy food if they didn’t have SNAP, and if they didn’t buy food, farmers would sell less food and make less money.
Gin & Tonic
@Betty Cracker:
This is my shocked face.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Taxpayer money well spent.
They’ll lie, but people are on to them, and we are pushing back on everything more than I think I’ve ever seen.
rikyrah
Go Cole???
Baud
@rikyrah: Agreed. That Sam Stein tweet was atrocious.
germy
Dorothy A. Winsor
That RBG ad was wonderful. I retweeted
mrmoshpotato
@Betty Cracker: The horse is long dead, and they’re still fucking that chicken. Bless their hearts.
mrmoshpotato
@germy: That tweet gave me a good laugh.
Joe Falco
@rikyrah: The press just misses the days when they can swing on John McCain’s tire swing and play like coddled children again by a Republican candidate that knows how to indulge them.
germy
This smirking little shit is covering Biden/Harris for CBS. His latest complaint is that Harris isn’t making herself available to the press, a complaint that is obvious bullshit.
Dupe1970
Someone stole my Biden / Harris Don’t Stop at the Top sign last night.
Cannot believe this fuckery has already started.
Baud
@germy: Wow. The media has its marching orders. That’s just like the Sam Stein tweet Cole responded to. Maybe if the media didn’t see itself as the arm of the RNC, our candidates wouldn’t need to go around them to reach the voters.
Interesting way to refer to MSNBC.
germy
Jinchi
@OzarkHillbilly: That’s not a hostage. That’s run of the mill horse trading. It’s happened in virtually every political negotiation in history.
When Republicans have taken hostages they’ve literally taken hostages: ‘You want government workers paid, give me money for my wall‘. The hostages that Trump has taken include threats to deport millions of Dreamers, along with their US born children; literal children in cages at the border; aid to major American cities (unless they prosecute protesters against him) and the paychecks of every American on the government payroll.
These are not acceptable forms of retaliation. That’s why we call them hostages.
Democrats aren’t doing that.
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: They were never going to say much because if they did they might attract unwanted attention to the low hanging fruit that is the trump family cartel.
Another Scott
@Baud: According to a story at TheHill, the Democratic argument was that there was unspent money in the CARES act for farmers, and that Donnie was using the CCC money as a slush fund. She got more oversight of his use of CCC money, and more money for food for kids not in school buildings.
She did very well.
Cheers,
Scott.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: Yep. Next up, the Durham report.
germy
OzarkHillbilly
@germy: My wife likes to say, “I sit down corrected.” I like it better because that is exactly what one should do if one makes a mistake.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
“Ok, she does interviews, but not with meeeeeee!”
OzarkHillbilly
@Jinchi: You can call it whatever you want, the GOP got the message post haste.
Soprano2
My husband says this about the rural hatred of big cities, and all their incorrect attitudes about them. He wonders if they ever think about who buys all that stuff they sell, and who would buy it if those people in the cities weren’t there. It’s really a symbiotic relationship. Farmers used to understand that SNAP helped them, but I think years and years of listening to Fox News and right-wing talk radio rail about how benefits to “those people” are bad has made them forget who actually benefits from SNAP in the long run.
kindness
Are farmers the biggest welfare queens?
Sure are the whiniest.
mrmoshpotato
@germy:
Jinchi
Has anyone gotten video of people doing this?
Seems like it would be funny to replace the stolen sign with a blown up photo of the culprit in the act and the subtitle ‘No need to steal it Bob, the signs are free – Biden/Harris 2020‘
Soprano2
@kindness: I have a great “Bloom County” cartoon on my bulletin board where Opus tries to say two conflicting things without laughing and cannot. First is “Keep those flat-footed goombahs in Washington out of my hair”. Second is “Hurry up with my federal bail-out check”. I think that illustrates it in a nutshell.
OzarkHillbilly
That dips into the parasitic when one considers how much of city tax revenues underwrite rural living.
Kay
@Baud:
They don’t really cover Biden. The NYTimes is (as usual) the worst. When this is over and Nate Silver does an analysis of the coverage it will be 10-1 Trump. Part of that is incumbency but the substantive coverage of Biden is REALLY thin and there’s not even much campaign coverage. There’s one Bloomberg reporter who is assigned to him and she’s the only example I’ve found of what I would consider “normal” coverage of a Presidential candidate, in that she’s focused on that candidate and that campaign.
Biden is IN some of the horserace coverage- what are the polls, what are his real or perceived problems with various groups of voters but I think the lack of coverage of Biden/Harris is remarkable, in that it’s unusually thin.
Baud
@Kay: I’m paying less attention to the news these days, but I’ve noticed the same thing. Substantive Biden/Harris doesn’t enter my info bubble as often as one would think it would.
mrmoshpotato
@OzarkHillbilly: And yet there are downstate jackasses that would like to kick Chicago out of Illinois.
hueyplong
I wouldn’t trust the FTFNYT to cover Biden/Harris in a way that isn’t death by a thousand cuts, so undercoverage is, in context, probably ok. The fewer “clouds and questions,” etc., the better.
OzarkHillbilly
@mrmoshpotato: Yep. Here in Ozarkistan, Misery would be just peachy keen without STL and KC.
Gin & Tonic
@mrmoshpotato: I’m going to tell my wife to start addressing me as “Sir.” That’ll make for a healthy relationship, don’t you think?
Zelma
I just lost my wonderful cat Simmons. He was a rescue and I’ve had him for 12 1/2 years. He was at least 16 and probably older. He was the sweetest, softest cat I’ve ever had. Ruled the roost, like every cat. I can’t imagine not having a cat around the house, but I wonder if I should at my age. My dog Bandit is sort of depressed right now. He knows Simmons is gone too.
You always know you’re going to say good-bye, but it’s still hard.
WereBear
Mr WereBear never tires of pointing out that blue states, “Trump’s enemies,” are the economic powerhouses of the US economy. Kill them, kill the money spigot.
Baud
@Zelma: My condolences. That is hard.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@kindness:
Decades ago, I think it was Bill Maher of all people that said “The biggest welfare queens wear overalls”.
mrmoshpotato
@Gin & Tonic: You know, you could just sleep on the couch if you really wanna.
Jeffro
the Barton Gellman story in The Atlantic right now should be retitled. Instead of What If trumpov Refuses to Concede?, it should be What Can We Do Now to Minimize the Chaos trumpov’s Going to Inflict On This Country In Order to Stay Out Of Jail?
It’s a nightmare that will surely come true to some degree. We have to hang in there and get every vote counted!
SiubhanDuinne
@Zelma:
I’m very sorry to hear that. Simmons sounds like a real sweetie. Condolences to you and Bandit.
germy
@Gin & Tonic:
Moms Mabley: “I married an old man; he said ‘Remember! I did you a favor! I gave you my name!’ I said ‘Yes, and I’ve got some names for you!’“
Sally
@kindness: Farmers the world over are the most fervent socialists. They invariably want, and often receive, insurance, minimum price guarantees, tax concessions, and various subsidies. But they hate govt handouts to anyone else. Now, more and more often, those farmers are huge, multi national agri businesses shifting their profits from place to place depending on the tax structures.
Betty Cracker
@germy: Daniel Dale tweeted about the sir/darling mix-up.
I despise the Third Lady, who’s just as awful as her husband, but if she addresses her putrid mate at all, it’s probably with hisses.
Jeffro
(from the Gellman piece)
Betty Cracker
@Zelma: I’m sorry. :(
Jeffro
From a WaPo piece about polling tightening up in FL and AZ:
The mind boggles. Biden is edging trumpov on the handling of the coronavirus by about 5%, not 80%???
Granted, Biden does not need these two states to win. But good lord, Sun Belt peeps.
OzarkHillbilly
@Zelma: It’s always hard.
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: Ask any trumper, “What is the 6th largest economy in the world?” Then watch their head explode when you say “California.”
Citizen Alan
@Baud: I don’t give a shit about farmers anymore even though I have some in my family. Is there a single state where farmers make up a significant portion of the electorate that is purple, let alone blue? If not, fuck all those tractor-riding welfare queens.
germy
@Zelma:
Condolences. Remember that Simmons lived the best life with your love and care.
Here’s a poem Raven used to post here:
“We who choose to surround ourselves with lives even more temporary than our own, live within a fragile circle, easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps, we still would live no other way.
We cherish memory as the only certain immortality,
never fully understanding the necessary plan.”
Irving Townsend.
Just One More Canuck
@Gin & Tonic: Let us know how that works out
germy
@Kay:
Trump’s town hall was shown on a major broadcast network.
Biden’s was on CNN. We don’t have cable TV, so we hoped to see it the next day on youtube, or on the CNN website, but all we could find were little one-minute excerpts.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Baud: I was a government acquisition weenie, trained in the complex federal budget and acquisition process. One of the things I look forward to is seeing that process actually happen instead of the goddamned continuing resolutions. It’s like running the federal government by breaking open piggy banks.
John S.
@Baud: Which is why the latest Biden ad running here in FL reminds people that Trump is lying about Biden raising taxes on everyone, and casually points out that Biden only proposed raising taxes on people making more than $400K per year. Specifically the wealthy and corporations.
That’s the whole ad. It’s simple, it’s factual and it only exists because the media is too lazy to be bothered pointing out the facts or covering what Biden’s campaign is about.
SiubhanDuinne
Am I the only one watching the very moving tribute to RBG at the Supreme Court?
(It’s over now.)
TS (the original)
@Betty Cracker:
Never imagined he would be the one to realise they have to negotiate with the leader of the House. Seems to have kept his wife out of the news to his advantage.
Dupe1970
@Jinchi: This would be the only reason I would install cameras at my house.
Haroldo
@Zelma:
My condolences. It’s hard when a family member goes.
Kay
@germy:
I feel like it’s a good campaign so maybe they just don’t care about the lack of coverage. Still, it’s weird. In a way it’s another move away from “norms” where Trump has managed to make himself the center of everything.
Shouldn’t there be like those stories they do? “Jill Biden- what makes her tick?” :)
I don’t know a thing about Kamala’s husband other than that he has kind eyes and smiles a lot.
Another Scott
“… let’s tax religion!” – Jello Biafra
(via nycsouthpaw)
Cheers,
Scott.
Ms. Deranged in AZ
@Zelma: I am so so sorry to hear about your loss. I know how terribly difficult it is. My heart goes out to you.
Kay
Here’s who I check in on for newsy-news on Biden/Harris:
It’s just straight reporting, which is what I want. I’m interested in “the Democrats” :)
taumaturgo
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Nope. the industrial-military complex is the socialist welfare king and the big pharma cartel a distant second.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay:
He should have gotten an email server.
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: They’d just cover the server.
Kay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
He probably had one. As we found out the national security email issue only applies to Hillary Clinton.
Because she’s evil. In her heart.
Another Scott
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: … “breaking open piggy banks after the bill collectors are at the door ready to take your clothes, furniture, and car because your boss hasn’t paid you on time in 6 months.”
FIFY.
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
mali muso
Anyone else see the new FB post from Barack Obama?
When you text the number, you get a response back and a link to an online community. Then the following text message sends you a contact card for Barack Obama to save in your contact list. Not sure how he plans to use this particular forum, but I miss him so much, I don’t even care.
...now I try to be amused
@mrmoshpotato:
My parents grew up in southern Illinois. I never lived there myself, but I got the impression that downstaters see Chicago as Sodom and Gomorrah to the north, not really part of Illinois.
On the other hand, I can see why they feel that way. They really are entirely different worlds.
Kay
Every time I read one these I mentally add “Trump hires said”. If they’re not credible in any other area why would they be credible in this one?
I find it amazing people trust their campaign finance reports. I mean, seriously. What are the odds those are close to real? Maybe 10%? If the Trump Family produced an accurate financial record it’ll be the first one.
They have some money and they spent some. That’s as far as I would go.
Geminid
@Citizen Alan: Most farmers will not see that money. The bulk of it will go to LLC’s, and to people whose zip codes are gated golf communities, or big cities like San Francisco (Central Valley agriculture heirs, I guess). These people hardly ever see a tractor, much less ride one.
WereBear
@Zelma: I’m so sorry for your loss of Simmons.
I have lined up people to take them in case of misadventure, etc. Because why bet against myself, and a cat who needs rescuing?
Chris Johnson
@germy: AHAHAHA oh WOW
That one got me :D
Chris Johnson
@Joe Falco: Wouldn’t Cindy McCain have that available? Seems to me they’re looking for the tire swing on the wrong side.
hueyplong
@Zelma: Getting another cat would be a tribute to Simmons, showing how the love and affection that flows from having a cat is a real part of who you are. The benefit of having one (or a dog) around in this time of limited human contact is not something to underestimate.
King Henry, the black footed African wildcat wannabe, has given us quite a bit of joy for this past year.
Mo Salad
The CR is not good news. It was the point of most leverage. All she had to do was insist on the Obamacare individual mandate penalty be set at $1, and the upcoming ACA case would be moot.
Then, if there was a shutdown, Dems everywhere could say, “Republicans shut down your government during all this for $1.”
planetjanet
@Jinchi: You just care about stunts. Taking care of people who are hurting is just not enough for you.
Mo Salad
@Mo Salad: Not likely to have happened, but we need to swing for the fences here.
Quinerly
@Jeffro: everyone should read that Atlantic piece.
Chris Johnson
I can see a good parallel. He is furthering their goals even to the point where it seems like nailing him to something until he dies would be appropriate.
If he, because of his twisted ideas, knows this and understands that he’s gonna be actually killed for his treasonous murderous bullshit, and he’s doing it anyway, then that is indeed Christlike while simultaneously being nothing like Christ and missing the point horribly.
Way to be unclear on the concept, guys.
hueyplong
@Mo Salad: If the Court were to decide to act in bad faith, they’d dispense with the $1 in a footnote to the opinion.
Mo Salad
@hueyplong: Thanks for the reply.
I thought that the premise of the case was since the individual mandate was held to be a tax in the previous SCOTUS case, now that the mandate penalty is zero, there is no tax, therefore Congress did not have authority to pass the ACA.
WaterGirl
@Zelma: Oh, Zelma, I’m so sorry.
You don’t have to get a kitty, you know. You could adopt an older cat if you are worried about that.
edit: but WereBear’s response was 100x better:
hueyplong
@Mo Salad: You’re right, which is why I said “if the Court decided to act in bad faith.” Your point would be made in a dissent
The bad faith thing to do would be to call it a mere fee and not a tax
laura
@Zelma: Simmons sounds like a lovely moggie. I’m so sorry for your loss and wish you and your bereft pup comfort and grace.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mo Salad: The tax exists notionally. The fact that the rate is currently zero is immaterial. If the Court wants to find that way.
Zelma
Dogs are amazing. Bandit is sticking very close to me and he jumped onto my lap, something he almost never does. He’ll miss Simmons too. They spent a lot of time about 6 inches from each other on the couch or the bed.
Matt McIrvin
@Jeffro: I don’t like the ones that urge people to drop their existing plans and vote in person. This late, that’s just adding to the chaos and playing into Trump’s hands by helping him delegitimize early voting–and for some, it creates extra complications because they’ve already requested mail ballots, and in some states, it’s harder to vote in person if you’ve already requested a mail ballot.
Also, at this point, for many that’s going to mean voting on Election Day, and voting on Election Day has its own whole set of vulnerabilities which is why we were pushing early voting in the first place.
Zelma
@WereBear:
I feed three ferals on my deck every day. Part of the TNR program. One of them prefers loves to food! I wonder about bringing him in from the cold. I’ve never dealt with a feral, although Simmons was one before he was rescued. I wonder about how he’d get along with Bandit who loves to chase him off the deck. It is hard to imagine not having a cat after 50+ years.
PST
@Zelma: Very sorry for your loss of Simmons. I kept seeing my Kenny out of the corner of my eye for a long, long time after he was gone. I’m glad Simmons found his place in the world early in life and had many years to enjoy it.
Jinchi
@planetjanet: I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Matt McIrvin
@Chris Johnson: It’s for bringing not peace but a sword!
also, I’m sure he would curse figs if he had the opportunity.
Jeffro
@Quinerly: I have already put it out on my FB and Twitter, and emailed it to a few others.
Everyone needs to assume he WILL cheat, contest the election, do whatever it takes to get ‘his’ electors recognized, etc. Like, literally every battleground state is going to have this fight.
And knowing that, the Dems need to beat on the media and whatever remains of the GOP: “Why are we having to do this? He got his clock cleaned and doesn’t want to go to jail, we get it. But that’s just too bad – perhaps he should have led the country, and perhaps he shouldn’t have been a crook. And now there’s no reason on earth our democracy should have to take his abuse any longer, not one minute longer!”
(offered gratis to Biden & Co ;)
Jeffro
@Matt McIrvin: it’s probably too late now anyway – we just have to fight and insist that every ballot of every kind be counted.
And THEN we’ll have to insist that the right electors be approved by their states.
And THEN we’ll have to insist that Congress, Pence, etc all do their jobs according to the law – not their law, THE law
And THEN And THEN And THEN…
Hey GOP dipshits – maybe electing the world’s most corrupt and dishonorable man, America’s king of lawsuits, a man whose word means less than nothing – maybe that was a bad idea
patrick II
@Jinchi:
No, but the sticking point was having to feed children which Republicans are loathe to do.
...now I try to be amused
@Jeffro:
I still can’t get over the fact that Trump is the hill they’re choosing to die on. Perhaps the GOP Senators’ alacrity in seating a new SC justice is a sign they know Trump’s time is up and they will accept the election. I dunno.
StringOnAStick
@Zelma: Please consider adopting an older cat, they have such a hard time finding homes for them.
When we adopted two sister kittens 3 years ago, we knew they would be the last kittens we could adopt because of our age. If we lose them before we shuffle off, we’ll adopt senior cats because I just can’t be without a cat or two in my life.
Ian
@TS (the original):
Sometimes I read about Mnuchin and I think, ‘thank g*d someone wants to keep it all together so they can keep the grift going.’
J R in WV
@Kay:
Well, in case Trump actually wins an election, for a change, none of these reporters want to go to jail for fake news, like Biden is actually well spoken and alert, which is obviously a criminal lie. //
J R in WV
@Zelma:
I’m sorry to hear about your loss. Simmons sounds like he was a wonderful companion and friend. I think you should look at your friends with regard to identifying someone who would be willing to undertake to care for your pets if you were no longer able to.
We have neighbors who will care for our critters should we become unable to, but we take that uncomfortable situation into account as we adopted new family members with fur. Stay close to your pup, we all know how upset they can be at a loss in the family.
Bill Arnold
@Dupe1970:
Webcams are pretty cheap, and can be easily configured to email stills or video clips on motion detect using e.g. house wifi (or wired internet). (Trailcams with built-in cell internet are rather more expensive.)
Bill Arnold
@Kay:
Thanks, useful, here’s her Bloomberg permal-link:
Jennifer Epstein, Reporter:White House, Bloomberg