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I’m Only Watching the Debate Because the Potential Exists for Trump to Stroke Out and Drop Dead

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Really. That’s it. I don’t expect to learn anything, I don’t expect anything beyond Trump lying and making shit up. I don’t care about who wins or loses according to shitheads like Chris Cilizza and other Beltway Bros, I don’t give a fuck what a bunch of circus clowns in the focus groups say, I definitely don’t give a fuck about what some dork named Boner in a red sweater thinks, and I remember four years ago when some lady CLEANED HIS FUCKING CLOCK three times saying shit like this and it didn’t matter:

That lady might have been on to something.

So I don’t expect anything interesting and good to happen, but the potential exists for Trump to get his speed dosage wrong and some question or something Biden says set him off and the fucker just siezes up and drops facefirst on top of the podium and then hits the floor with a satisfying thunk, leaving behind only a trail of ooze composed of flop sweat, spittle, and orange makeup.

So I suppose that tiny chance is enough to get me to watch.

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  2. 2.

    Tractarian

    Meh. I couldn’t bring myself to watch the debates in 2016 and I’m leaning toward skipping them this year too.

    If Trump spontaneously combusts, I can read all the juicy details after the fact.

  3. 3.

    lofgren

    The debate appeals to me just like the Mueller testimony did. I don’t actually believe it will change anything, but if there is even a tiny chance that Trump stamps his foot so hard that he falls through a pit into hell and the earth seals up behind him when Biden guess his True Name, I’m willing to take that chance.

  4. 4.

    SuzieC

    I’m not watching. As it is, I’m only hanging on to shreds of my sanity by compulsive Vote Forward letter and PostcardToVoter writing. And donating when DougJ says to.

    Is anyone live-blogging?

  8. 8.

    FlyingToaster

    I won’t be watching, because my BP meds can’t compensate when I hear that whiny Queens accent.  I just can’t listen to that voice.

    WarriorTeen’s violin class is up after dinner (Zoom!), then I have to type the practice list for next week, and then start on the latest experiment in 7-grain bread.  So I’ll check in heah, and at the little bird, but otherwise, NOPE.

  9. 9.

    DRickard

    Sorry, Cole, the universe isn’t nearly that kind.  And besides: if Trump croaks, Pence (presumably) becomes the Republican candidate, all the Village idiots would assume that means Republicans immediately go back to their pre-Trump “sanity”/”reasonableness,” and a lot of low-info voters would assume that means Pence would be a safe president.

  10. 10.

    Kay

    Ramesh Ponnuru
    @RameshPonnuru
    ·4h
    Only one federal judge has found the case for striking down Obamacare on the basis of this lawsuit compelling. That’s one too many, but it doesn’t mean it’s got a good shot at SCOTUS.

    The people who spent the last ten years trying to get rid of Obamacare now deny they had any intention of getting rid of Obamacare.
    The polling on their judge must be bad. Suddenly, she’s sort of liberal!

  11. 11.

    Baud

    If Chris Wallace is being honest, he’ll come straight out and ask Biden to gaffe so the media can talk about it for the rest of the election season.

  13. 13.

    Kay

    a good shot at SCOTUS.

    The entitled arrogance kills me. Cancer survivors should spend the rest of their lives hoping one or another far Right judge doesn’t take their health insurance away. Take a shot! You might win! No telling!

  14. 14.

    CedWest

    Look at how Trump drinks his water at the beginning of the clip! It’s as if he needs two hands to drink comfortably

  15. 15.

    Joe Falco

    If Trump strokes out and dies on stage, it would make me believe that there is a God. A Trickster God.

  17. 17.

    West of the Cascades

    Went out this afternoon to buy a bottle of scotch for tonight (6 pm Pacific start out here). Trying to decide if 3:15 pm is too early to start drinking.

  18. 18.

    RaflW

    Former United States S.O.S. John Kerry with absolutely zero remaining fucks to give.
    Wow.*

    @JohnKerry

    You’ll have to inspect a lot lower than the ears to find where the president will be pulling his answers out of tonight.

    *Wow of approval, I should add.

  19. 19.

    marklar

    I won’t be able to tolerate watching the debate, but I will follow it at the live feed at the Guardian (US edition), as well as right here on BJ.

  20. 20.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    The attacks are landing though, or they wouldn’t be lying. Democrats own health care as an issue now. They can beat Republicans up with it every two years for the rest of their lives.

  21. 21.

    dr. bloor

    Not getting out of the boat.  The only thing more infuriating than giving this narcissist more free air time is watching the mediots determined to make it “close” after Biden cleans his clock.  The only potential stroke victim here is me.

  22. 22.

    feebog

    I’m watching.   Big bottle of margarita mix as reinforcements.  looking forward to Biden kicking is dumb ass all over the stage.  Cheers!

  23. 23.

    narya

    “a trail of ooze composed of flop sweat, spittle, and orange makeup”

    And whatever the drug crumbs were that came flying out of his face a few weeks ago.

    Personally, no way i can watch. I’m rewatching The Good Place in prep for finally seeing the final season; much more enjoyable. I may check feeds, but that’s it.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    @Kay: Some outside group should runs ads telling people to “support Barrett because chances are she won’t take away your health care.”

  26. 26.

    Kay

    I think it’s nice for Obama that Obamacare is popular. Even among Republicans in Congress, apparently!

    So bipartisanship does work after all.

  28. 28.

    zhena gogolia

    Re post title, that is in fact the only reason to watch. I’ll be watching Judy (fantastic performance by Zellweger) but will check in here for the running commentary.

  29. 29.

    West of the Cascades

    @DRickard: The ideal time for Trump to stroke out live on TV is the second debate … let Harris clean Pence’s clock once, then in the third presidential debate, Biden can clean Pence’s clock again.

  32. 32.

    raven

    I don’t think so. Lil Bit’s ultrasound showed masses on her liver and pancreas but we won’t get the needle aspiration result til morning. It’s not good but we still don’t know for sure.

  33. 33.

    zhena gogolia

    leaving behind only a trail of ooze composed of flop sweat, spittle, and orange makeup.

    You left out a few ingredients.

  40. 40.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    I don’t think I’m the only person in this country who doesn’t like surprises. Conservatives over-rate chaos. No one wants chaos in an insurance product. The thing itself is security. I mean, that’s the basis of the concept of insurance. It isn’t supposed to be risky.

  42. 42.

    raven

    @zhena gogolia: Thanks, my wife almost wanted to just go get her and bring her home but I felt we should wait for the results since they are hydrating and monitoring her closely.

     

    @Baud: It wasn’t unexpected just weird that it seemed like it was related to the antibiotics.  Anyway I don’t want to derail John’s thread. Just giving an update.

  43. 43.

    Morzer

    I must admit I was hoping for Cole to storm the debate stage and launch Shaven Steve at the Orange Abomination.  Still, I guess this is another Nice Thing We Cannot Have.

  44. 44.

    MattF

    Not watching. In fact, the excerpts that end up on Twitter will be the true record of the event, so what’s the point?

  47. 47.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    if he strokes out and falls down Aaron Rupar with post the video

    I think I’ll have to skip this one

  49. 49.

    Brachiator

    So I don’t expect anything interesting and good to happen, but the potential exists for Trump to get his speed dosage wrong and some question or something Biden says set him off and the fucker just siezes up and drops facefirst on top of the podium and then hits the floor with a satisfying thunk, leaving behind only a trail of ooze composed of flop sweat, spittle, and orange makeup.

    So I suppose that tiny chance is enough to get me to watch.

    I’d watch if there were a chance that a hole would open up under Trump’s feet and Satan would drag his sorry ass straight to Hell.

  50. 50.

    Kay

    Sahil Kapur
    @sahilkapur
    McConnell mocks claims that Barrett could vote to take away health care.
    “This mother of 7 including multiple children who were born or adopted facing pre-existing condition medical challenges is just itching to block families like hers from accessing medical care. What a joke.”

    Yup. Health care was the right approach. You wonder because Democrats use it for everything but apparently they CAN use it for everything. Somewhere, Obama is grinning as he watches Mitch McConnell passionately defend Obamacare.

  52. 52.

    hueyplong

    Cole makes the only case that can be made for watching, but I’m confident there will be a replay available if Trump strokes out and drops dead onstage.

    I assume Vanky and Jared will be watching from the tarmac in Teterboro, just in case a quick getaway suddenly becomes Option 1

    Edited to add that my favorite scenario would be Trump saying something so horribly destructive of GOP electoral fortunes that Mitch McConnell strokes out and drops dead.

  54. 54.

    Geoboy

    As somebody who is making regular get out the vote calls, Trump hatred is stoking voters like nothing I’ve ever seen. That SOB owes us not to stroke out until November 4.

  57. 57.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @MattF: That’s an option but was thinking of switching it up a bit. I’m not a big fan of the peaty Islay single malts – though I can drink them. My wife hates them though and I prefer Speyside – The Balvenie Carribean Cask is another of my faves. I was thinking about trying a Highland this time – maybe Glenmorangie if they have it

  59. 59.

    VOR

    I remember Lewis Black wanting to see Trump’s inauguration just in case he burst into flames after putting his hand on a bible. Disappointed.

  61. 61.

    Elizabelle

    I will watch online with C-Span.  With closed captioning for Trump, if I can stand it, because going to mute that mofo every time he opens his mouth.  Listen to him as little as possible, and not going to start now.

    Look forward to the BJ thread.

    Go Joe!

  62. 62.

    Morzer

    Interestingly, there are now stories that Parscale is under investigation for stealing $40 million from the Trump campaign.

  63. 63.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Kay: Right? What’s insane is that his description applies to the entire Republican Party. It’s literally their party position and the Administration’s legal position: Repeal Obamacare in its entirety.

    They’re salivating over it. Hell, they threw a fucking televised party when they passed the repeal bill early in Trump’s term.

  64. 64.

    mrmoshpotato

    I love Dump’s “That makes me smart.” response to being a potential tax cheat.  Dumbass.

  65. 65.

    cain

    @Joe Falco:

    If he strokes out – they’ll accuse Joe of murder and demand that he stopped running and go to jail. It will go straight to the SCOTUS. His children will wail and blame Joe. Pence will try to be president, but the Trump children will say that the position is inherited and it is their due!

    (I love these games! Give me some booze!)

  67. 67.

    Mag

    @Elizabelle: The only way I can stand to hear his voice is if Sarah Cooper is mocking him. Hrmm
 maybe I could watch with a picture of Cooper taped over Trump’s side of the screen?

  70. 70.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: I’m watching only because there’s a debate party in my building and the host is an awesome cook.

    And there are lots of artisanal spirits out there, no need to keep buying from Scotland.  Someone here is bringing moonshine from Brookyn to the debate feast.

  74. 74.

    West of the Cascades

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: The Balvenie Doublewood (12 year – too cheap to go for Caribbean Cask this time). A spur of the moment decision – I think I have some Lagavulin in the cupboard but spotted a liquor store when running errands. Also thanks to dr. bloor for pointing out that it was past time to start, um, getting ready for the debate.

  75. 75.

    Splitting Image

    Every photo of Trump makes me want to punch him in the face.

    When he smiles (smirks, really) I want to punch him in the face. When he bellows, I want to punch him in the face. And when he tries to look serious, like in the video above, I want to punch him in the face.

    Even Ted Cruz manages to have days when it seems not worth the effort to punch him in the face. Trump can’t manage even that.

    It’s the goddamned narcissism. When I want to punch Ted Cruz in the face, it’s always because he’s said something like “old people should be willing to die of COVID to help the economy for their grandchildren”. After the initial rage dies down, it’s fairly easy to start thinking that one’s time is better spent helping people not die of COVID than wasting it punching Ted Cruz in the face.

    With Trump, I’m never able to do that. If I stop wanting to punch him in the face for even a second, Trump gets in with his “It’s all about ME, ME, ME!” act and I want to punch him in the face again.

    It’s been like this for four solid years.

  76. 76.

    Elizabelle

    Guessing one Wallace question might be asking Biden to take a pledge not to pack the Supreme Court.

    No pledges!  Pack that court, or at least reserve the right and leave them guessing.

    Should be Hillary up there, the incumbent debating a challenger.

  84. 84.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Chacal Charles Calthrop: It’s not the only thing I drink but I like to have a bottle on hand. My “everyday” tipple is Wild Turkey 101, but I like dark rum in dark and stormy so usually have that on hand, plus tequila for margaritas, and gin. Also have a bottle of Long Road aquavit from my hometown of Grand Rapids in the freezer.

  86. 86.

    misterpuff

    @Kay:  What kind of coverage do the justices have and/or what ins does her husband (I mean Head) have? And what kind of finances does her family have?

    Once you know that, then you can definitively predict what a Repug will do to Ocare.

    High probability that the shutting down of Ocare will not encumber her in the least.

  88. 88.

    Spanky

    I’ve already started on the Cabernet and will not be watching, only blog surfing. Don’t you guys make me go to the gin.

  92. 92.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @West of the Cascades: Yeah I’m thinking about going a little cheaper this time around. I generally save it for special occasions so a bottle often lasts for the better part of a year.

  93. 93.

    The Moar You Know

    I have spent my entire life, 55 years, not watching a single political debate and have no intention of starting now.  Especially this one.   It’s not like I’m going to learn anything from it.

    That is time I could be spending cuddling my dog.   You don’t let that go to waste.

  94. 94.

    Morzer

    Last couple of polls out of Georgia have Biden up by 3 and Warnock moving up nicely as Lieberbrat collapses.  Just to add a note of optimism to proceedings.

  102. 102.

    The Moar You Know

    I don’t think so. Lil Bit’s ultrasound showed masses on her liver and pancreas but we won’t get the needle aspiration result til morning. It’s not good but we still don’t know for sure.

    @raven: don’t do anything tonight save for cuddle your pup. I am very sorry.

  104. 104.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @hueyplong: [M]y favorite scenario would be Trump saying something so horribly destructive of GOP electoral fortunes that Mitch McConnell strokes out and drops dead.

    Concur. Just as effective as Yertle catching a 3-group in his foreshell, with none of the attendant gore and no one required to go to prison for the act.

  106. 106.

    Jeffro

    @Kay:

     

    @Baud: the lying about where they stand is getting pretty obvious, since the Republican strategy for every Supreme Court nominee is: hide what you believe

    Republicans are about to reach the modern apotheosis of minority rule, a Supreme Court with a 6-3 conservative majority despite the fact that they have lost the popular vote in six of the past seven presidential elections. And they know full well that the agenda that court will pursue is spectacularly unpopular.  How can you tell? Because that agenda is always cloaked in lies and obfuscation.

    Not 100 percent of the time, of course. But whenever a Republican gets a little too frank about what they’re hoping to get out of the Supreme Court in coming years, others rush in to say, “No no, we don’t want anything like that. Why, we barely have any legal agenda at all!”

    So with the right about to gain that bulletproof court majority, conservatives write op-eds telling liberals they have “nothing to fear” from Amy Coney Barrett because she’s smart and fair-minded, as though that guaranteed that her decisions as a Supreme Court justice wouldn’t be every bit as conservative as her decisions as an appeals court judge.  Will the Affordable Care Act be overturned? Nonsense, how could you think such a thing!

    The end of the column is a good short insight into what the Federalist Society is and does for conservatives.  Great read.

  108. 108.

    Frank Wilhoit

    To Cole’s point: down the long and helpless years, many upon many persons (I may, for example, be looking at John Kelly) could have reduced Trump to permanent catatonia with one almighty tongue lashing.  It would have taken five minutes and saved a millenium.  So why did no one ever do it?  Out of at least thousands who had the opportunity, the motive, and the means?  Going back to a time when no one had any reason to be afraid of him?  Why, for one thing, didn’t the famous military academy send him home in bite-size chunks?  Did they think they wouldn’t get paid if they did?  (Did they get paid?  We must doubt.)

  109. 109.

    The Moar You Know

    Interestingly, there are now stories that Parscale is under investigation for stealing $40 million from the Trump campaign.

    @Morzer: you don’t steal mob money. And all Trump money is, sooner or later, mob money. If that amount is remotely accurate that dumb fucker won’t live to see the election.

  111. 111.

    Origuy

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: I’ve been working on a bottle of Glenfarclas 12 year old. It’s a Speyside distillery. I visited there years ago with a friend. We got there too late for the tour, but they gave us a “wee dram” anyway. We spent some more time in the gift shop; at closing they offered us bit of what they were drinking. The options were the 25 or the 30 year old. The 30 year old was incredibly smooth; it sells for over $500 these days.

  112. 112.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Kay: No one wants chaos in an insurance product. The thing itself is security.

    The word for insurance in Spanish is “seguro”, which as an adjective means “safe, secure, sure, reliable.”

  113. 113.

    sdhays

    Apparently there was a hearing in the Flynn trial. This made me think of Kay:

    Kohl, who touted his background as a longtime career official, told Sullivan he was appearing at the hearing to push back against claims that the dismissal request was driven by a desire to help out one of Trump’s friends.“The allegation that we would act with a corrupt political motive is just not true,” he said.

    There’s no way he actually believes this, except under the doctrine of “Democrats are icky”. Now that he has outed himself, I hope we can relieve Mr. Kohl of his position in the DoJ next year.

  114. 114.

    bcwbcw

    Except Clinton’s poll numbers improved after her debates such that things might have been different if Comey had done his job kept his mouth shut instead of trying to cover his ass.

  117. 117.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Origuy: $500 is too rich for my blood. $100 a bottle is generally the absolute limit on what I’ll spend and I don’t think I’ve ever actually hit three figures. The 12 year might be within reach though

  118. 118.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Morzer: That feels familiar. Haven’t we seen stories in the past in the “liberal” media that got written and posted declaring the Republican the winner, hours before the debate?

  119. 119.

    trollhattan

    That video clip makes me want to punch the neck of everybody who said, “I want to vote for a woman, just not her.” [patooey optional]

  120. 120.

    kindness

    If Trump stalks behind Uncle Joe like he did with Hillary, I hope Uncle Joe hauls off and pops him one right in the nose.

    I’d vote for him 3 times then.

  121. 121.

    Elizabelle

    @Mag: 

    maybe I could watch with a picture of Cooper taped over Trump’s side of the screen

    That or some obvious animal. (With apologies to the animal!)

  125. 125.

    Skepticat

    Raven, my heart hurts for you, and I’m so sorry you’re enduring this.

    Here on our little fogged-in island, my nephew (who has quite the supply of vodka, which we’ll be drinking straight) and I are planning to watch, mostly because what we’d imagine might be worse and indeed because we hope for the splat. We’ll choose a version without pundits, and we need to send intense positive vibes to Joe and cheer him on. I think this may be key to how the road ahead will be, for good or for ill. Paws crossed.

  127. 127.

    Another Scott

    @SuzieC: Wonkette usually does, and I think I saw a comment mentioning that they would, but I don’t see a linky yet.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  128. 128.

    geg6

    @raven: 

    I’m so sorry, raven. You are right to confirm before deciding anything about Lil Bit. All good thoughts coming to you all.

  129. 129.

    Kathleen

    @zhena gogolia: She was so good in the movie I had to stop watching because I actually felt Judy’s pain in my heart. I’ve never experienced a movie like that. She was Judy and deserved that Oscar.

  132. 132.

    zhena gogolia

    @Kathleen: 
    It is painful to watch and we are doing it a half hour at a time. But I think it’s a magnificent performance.
    That the same actress could do Bridget Jones and this — Meryl Streep is chopped liver compared to this, in my book.

  134. 134.

    chopper

    i’ll bet good money that the moment biden brings up trump’s taxes, he’ll swear the NYT story is ‘fake news’ and say he’ll prove it be releasing his taxes ‘very soon’. which will of course never happen.

  135. 135.

    raven

    They just called, it is cancer and they are going to let us bring her home and take care of her. We’ll take her to the beach and just spend time with her.  Thanks ya’ll.

  137. 137.

    Kay

    @Jeffro:

    The grossest part is the simpering “I’ve known the hugely powerful judge for 15 years and she’s super!”

    Why? Why even bother us with this bullshit? Just go to her personally and kiss her ass to benefit your career. Why do we have to be part of it?

    She has a really thin record. Not one of them have any idea what she’ll do. They should stop misleading people and admit that.

  140. 140.

    raven

    @Yutsano: The vet was very supportive of our decision to not go any further. She did eat so that’s going to be our baseline. She’s not crazy about the water but we can take her to the beach and be with her.

  142. 142.

    Calouste

    My preferred scenario would be for the shitgibbon to stroke out, but not die just yet. The fighting between the family, Pence, and various other Gopers over what to do and who gets to do it would be epic

  143. 143.

    Elizabelle

    @raven:   That is the very best decision you can make, raven.  I’m sorry this time is upon you, and hope the beach trip is sweet.

  144. 144.

    Kathleen

    @zhena gogolia: I like Meryl but now that you said that, I think Rene “melts” into her characters in a way Streep doesn’t. I thought she was also great in Chicago.

  146. 146.

    Kay

    @Jeffro:

    I guess the plan is to DEMAND that we embrace the justice they’re ramming down our throats. We’re not even permitted to oppose this. We’re expected to thank them.
    It’s just more entitlement and arrogance. Not only are they foisting this person on us, they’re going to insist we tell them how great she is. Just one demand after another.
    They won. She got the seat and she’ll be confirmed the week before the election, just to add an extra “fuck you” to the electorate in case we had any doubts. We’re supposed to be grateful?

  147. 147.

    J R in WV

    @raven: 

    So sorry Lil Bit isn’t doing better. You have done everything possible for your puppies, and I wish you and the furry babies the best of luck.

    Take care, keep in touch.

    Love for the furry babies from West Virginia!

    JR

  148. 148.

    Another Scott

    @Butter Emails: He’s a very bad candidate taking votes from a stronger Democrat in a run-off situation.

    Plus, he wrote and published a book just a few years ago that includes an almost literal “magical negro” among other horrible tropes.

    He’s got no business trying to represent the people of Georgia in the US Senate.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  149. 149.

    MomSense

    @West of the Cascades:

    I only have one beer in the house so I’m nursing it slooooowly.
    Like I said in the morning thread, my cupboard of fucks is so bare that I will have no problem watching.  Dog I would love it if he stroked out, but I plan to mock him mercilessly nonetheless.

  151. 151.

    mrmoshpotato

    @trollhattan: That video clip makes me want to punch the neck of everybody who said, “I want to vote for a woman, just not her.” [patooey optional]

    And then drop a bunch of rotten fruit on them from this tower.

  152. 152.

    mrmoshpotato

    @kindness: If Trump stalks behind Uncle Joe like he did with Hillary, I hope Uncle Joe hauls off and pops him one right in the nose.

    Put on a glove first so Joe does get orange shit all over his hand.

    What’s the over/under on the coke-sniffles for tonight?

  153. 153.

    Kay

    Michelle Ye Hee Lee
    @myhlee
    ·13m
    NEW: Early surge of Democratic mail voting sparks worry inside GOP

    Good job, BJ’ers.

  154. 154.

    Geminid

    @Kathleen: Watching Judy Garland’s earlier movies can be kind of poignant, knowing the sadness she would go through. But The Harvey Girls is a lot of fun. Set in a southwestern railroad town.

  158. 158.

    Central Planning

    We have 4 pints of Ben and Jerry’s ice cream that we are going to eat during the debate. I figure we’ll give our livers a break and best up our pancreases.

    If the debate goes to shit, we can always drop back to tequila/margaritas  or daiquiris.

    No matter which one we eat or drink we’re bound to feel like hell in the morning.

  164. 164.

    MisterForkbeard

    @mrmoshpotato: I’d actually be okay with that. If Biden wiped off a bunch of orange makup and Trump just had to…. deal with it.

    Alternately, he could touch Trump’s hair and watch the whole thing collapse.

  167. 167.

    Kay

    There’s room for surprises from Amy Coney Barrett

    There’s apparently a huge group of privileged people who believe people are delighted at the prospect of “surprises” in whether or not they have health insurance coverage.

  168. 168.

    Kay

    And really why should you, as a cancer survivor, have any guarantee of health insurance? Why don’t you like surprises?

  170. 170.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @David Evans: Couldn’t say as I haven’t had Glenmorangie yet. I also don’t know exactly what the price difference between them is. Do you drink the original or one of their more aged offerings?

  171. 171.

    EmanG

    It’s commentary like:

    “So I don’t expect anything interesting and good to happen, but the potential exists for Trump to get his speed dosage wrong and some question or something Biden says set him off and the fucker just siezes up and drops facefirst on top of the podium and then hits the floor with a satisfying thunk, leaving behind only a trail of ooze composed of flop sweat, spittle, and orange makeup.”

    That makes me a lifer here at BJ. God love ya Cole. You magnificent bastard, I’m in!

  173. 173.

    Fair Economist

    @Baud:Fortunately the polling has improved a lot in the GA special and Warnock is well ahead of everybody, including the 2 Rs. Guess Lieberman is learning attacking Obama isn’t good for getting Dem support.

  176. 176.

    cope

    As tempting as the possibility of trump having any kind of mental or physical self immolation is to watch, I believe we will pass and get caught up tomorrow through the Colbert filter.  That’s what I plan to do on election night as well, not watch any live coverage, stay offline and wake up to deal with the result well rested in the morning.

  179. 179.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @West of the Cascades:

    Are there any good snarky live blogs in case it becomes unwatchable?

    What are we, chopped liver?

    I will be toggling from BJ to Wonkette to Daniel Dale to Aaron Rupar, and back again.

  182. 182.

    Ruckus

    @raven:

    Damn it.

    Enjoy the time you have with her. I know you will take care of her and not let her suffer, I’m so sorry that it’s gotten to this point

    Bud will be there to say hello when she shows up.

  183. 183.

    Zelma

    @raven:

    So very sorry.  It’s so hard to say good-bye to a beloved pet.  I’m glad you’ll have some time to give him more loving.

  185. 185.

    Ruckus

    I’m not going to watch, I can not stomach this fucked up excuse for a human being and I have too much invested in my computer, or TV or phone. And I’d probably throw the phone through the computer or TV and lose two expensive items. And any way one looks at it, my BP can’t risk the doubling.

  186. 186.

    Elizabelle

    @Ruckus:   Cannot argue with your reasoning.

    It’s not like you’re watching to make up your mind between our two outstanding candidates.

  189. 189.

    SFAW

    @West of the Cascades:

     The Balvenie Doublewood

    My brother pointed me to it five or ten years ago. I like it, although I don’t have as refined a palate (vis-a-vis Scotch) as I imagine you do. [Written sincerely, not snarkily]

  190. 190.

    J R in WV

     

    I’ve had a Hendricks gin and tonic before dinner, and a bottle of sparkling French Gamay with dinner. Have decided I personally won’t be watching Trump lie about the state of the world.

    Wife had a doctor’s appointment today, and our family doctor told her he’s had 5 deaths in his practice, and still 4 in the hospital from Covid-19. Then a long spell in the grocery/pharmacy.

    Good night all~!~

  191. 191.

    frosty

    @raven: Oh, raven, I’m so sorry to hear that. Saying good bye is so hard, but there is a time when you know going further isn’t in your dog’s best interest. Best wishes to you and yours.

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