Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

In my day, never was longer.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

Not loving this new fraud based economy.

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Text STOP to opt out of updates on war plans.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

Never give a known liar the benefit of the doubt.

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Trump Death Cult Open Thread: Proud, Proud Boys

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Once again, the Squatter-in-Chief has invited his biggest fans to do whatever they want… which is to intimidate people in the name of White supremacy. On the positive side, at least even the least discerning pundit can no longer pretend they don’t know what Trump might be encouraging…

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  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    I think what frightens me most about the situation is that one of the things that might help save us from Trump’s evil is Trump’s stupidity.

  4. 4.

    Villago Delenda Est

    These assholes need the sort of treatment that the guards of newly liberated concentration camps got in Germany in 1945.

  5. 5.

    jl

    @dmsilev:  We should be thankful for Trump’s obsession for blabbing his plans well in advance, pay attention to what he says, and take action accordingly.

  6. 6.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    Pool report: “Biden just stopped in Greensburg [small town 30 miles from Pittsburgh] where he was met by a crowd of several hundred … Many of them chanted ‘We want Joe! We want Joe!’ It’s one of the largest crowds he’s seen since March.”
    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 30, 2020

    From the short video shown on twitter, the crowd looked larger than several hundred. In any event, great turnout for Joe!
    — Juanita Clark (@Nita57832291) September 30, 2020

  7. 7.

    Villago Delenda Est

    I might note that the “Storm Troopers” were an elite element of the Imperial German Army in WWI.  Somehow, in the 30’s, Nazi thugs coopted the name and “Storm Troopers” have forever been associated with fascist movements, even though they’re untrained and undisciplined, unlike their namesake in the Imperial German Army.

  12. 12.

    jl

    @germy: There was a reason Michelle Obama included ‘vote early, in person if possible’ in her convention speech. It wasn’t an ad lib. I think Biden said something similar last night.

    I think there is a real push to lock in as much early vote as possible by Dems. Many states  start verifying, processing and/or counting mail votes long before election day, and that process will be hard to stop, even by Trump’s fixed up SCOTUS

    Edit: and from what I’ve read, despite Trump’s toxic threats to democracy and validity of mail voting, GOP state parties are pushing it. Apparently they think it is important for them. I wonder how solid the GOP voters’ stated intention of voting in person really is. I’d bet the state and local parties know better than anyone. Also, I wonder how much Trump campaign money problems are eating into GOTV funds. State GOPers will have to fill in gaps in campaign spending, and how much of that will come out of their GOTV? GOP billionaires are stepping up, I’ve read, but not enough to make a big dent in the gaping hole the Trump crime machine dug.

    Edit2: and also, I’ve read GOP GOTV strategy is to contact voters early, which may not be the most effective strategy, might be better to contact them when GOTV is ready to help them to get their vote in. That leaves less time to fill in the money gap. Anyway, Trump is Trump and he doesn’t give a damn what his antics do to the rest of the party and its plans for getting the vote in, which is a good thing.

  13. 13.

    vigilhorn

    The Proud Boys aren’t Trump’s Storm Troopers. They’re more like the Brown Shirts (and it didn’t end well for them).

  14. 14.

    geg6

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:

    That’s kind of wild to have that big a crowd in Greensburg.  That’s Westmoreland County and about as Trumpy a place as you’ll ever find.  Wonder if my niece went.  Her college, St. Vincent, is in Latrobe, just down the road.  It’s also the site of the Fred Rogers Museum and where the Steelers normally have their summer training camp.  It’s run by Benedictine monks.

  15. 15.

    dr. bloor

    On the positive side, at least even the least discerning pundit can no longer pretend they don’t know what Trump might be encouraging…

    So you missed Hugh Hewitt’s take on last nights episode of WWE?

  20. 20.

    debbie

    A new record! 49 Biden signs on a 30-minute walk vs. the same 2 puny Trump signs. A couple Biden signs were missing since previous counts, so there could have been 51 or 52. I walked this same route just a couple of days ago, when the count was 45.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    @debbie:

    I got signs they’re multiplying
    And I’m losing control
    ‘Cause the power they’re supplying
    It’s electrifying (it’s electrifying)

  24. 24.

    dmsilev

    @jl: The Post has a big story yesterday on the effects of Trump’s anti-mail-voting campaign on GOP turnout. Short version is, as you might expect, the normally Republican lean of early voting is gone, dead, done with, and various state-level candidates and party committees etc. are somewhere between not happy and outright panicking. 

  25. 25.

    Aleta

    Dems should print slogans on garbage bags.    Up and down the streets, sacks of trash:

    Dump Trump   Trump to the Dump   Vote Democratic and Take the Garbage Out!

  27. 27.

    dm

    I had to go to Google Translate for the @laloalcaraz tweet.  There I learned that “Pendejos Babosos” means “santorum”.

  29. 29.

    debbie

    @Baud:

    It’s certainly making me giddy!

    I wonder how many of these Proud Boys would have been on the losing end if they’d been caught up in any of Trump’s multiple bankruptcies. Would they still like him so much?

  30. 30.

    Ken

    @Baud: Why am I being pushed back to 2036?

    It took 15 years for the failed Articles of Confederation to be replaced by the failing Constitution (1777 through 1792).  I expect jl is allowing for a similar lag, and giving you the George Washington role under the new system.

  32. 32.

    dm

    PS., remember when the Biden campaign was happy about $300 million in August (compared to Trump’s $200 million in fund raising)?

    ActBlue’s ticker has increased by more than $400 million since RBG’s death.

  33. 33.

    jl

    @Baud: “Why am I being pushed back to 2036? I thought I was being generous not primarying Biden in 2024.”

    As a Baudster, I’m getting realistic about when the next window will open, and Baud 2XXX!! wakes up at the same time. Being virtual, there is always time, I guess.

    Anyway, I’m for Biden, Baud of the 24 and a half century endorsement or no.

  34. 34.

    Peale

    Thanks to Joe tweeting  a pint of Jeni’s ice cream as his debate performance enhancer, I picked up a pint of their brambleberry crumble today. Never had the brand before. I’m now debating whether to empty Out all those healthy things I’ve been cooking and devoting my freezer to the stuff.

  35. 35.

    Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    @debbie:  I live in a rural/surburban border area in PA and it’s still mostly Drumpf signs (and big flags) around me, but there is now another Biden/Harris sign just up the street! Our sign has been unmolested for over two weeks so far. Also I started phonebanking for the first time ever this week for “PA Democrats-Back to Blue” it is interesting and not too bad. Two days this week were local calls. On Sunday I’m doing two hours of state wide calls.

  38. 38.

    Aleta

    Drove to the vet 30 min. away and took a longer way home on country roads.  Pretty good  foliage even though it’s been dry.  A lot more Biden/Harris signs than TP ones.  Significantly fewer TP signs than I remember in 2016, and all small .

  40. 40.

    dr. bloor

    @debbie: These guys aren’t the ones getting bitten in the ass by his bankruptcies, they’re the tradesmen who get stiffed for well-done work. But they’re not very bright, and they’re immune to learning from anything other than direct experience.

  42. 42.

    JPL

    NBC Nightly news is being kind to trump, but he won’t realize that.   They are only pointing out who the proud boys are and what happened in Charlottesville, and showing Biden’s comments today.    Now onto  his comments about the election.

    By being kind, I meant they didn’t actually shit on him, but I think Lester Holt would be fine with that

     

    It’s not even Holy Shit which is one of my terms.   Decades ago a mom called because her son blessed his shit like me.   She said I bet it’s from the little brat next door, and sheepishly I said probably not.     Her son is a Methodist minister these days so still blesses shit.

  43. 43.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Kattails: Trumplthinskin. And Orangecandyass rather than Orangemandias. More bite for the byte IMO. But YMMV. (FTR I also like Chicken Brittle.)

  44. 44.

    Kattails

    @Aleta: I think you’re a bit east and north of me. Foliage is just turning around here, but turning fast. Finally got a decent rain last night, it has been drrrrrryyyyy here. Almost couldn’t sleep between the debate “hangover”, rain and wind. I also have a bunch of oak trees and they have been dropping acorns like bullets.

    Hope the drive to the vets wasn’t about anything worrisome.

  46. 46.

    StringOnAStick

    Yesterday we had a realtor do a video walk through of a house we would like to buy.  It’s on a cul de sac, and we asked her to first look around to see if any of the neighbors had tRump signs in their yards, because that’s darn close to a deal breaker.  There were Biden/Harris signs, no tRump signs.  We made an offer today.

  47. 47.

    Humanities Prof

    @Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!): We live in a very red country in Ohio (registered Republicans in our county have a more than 3:1 advantage over registered Democrats).

    It was wall-to-wall Trump country in ’16.  There were maybe 3 Clinton signs in our neighborhood, including ours.

    We took a walk with the dogs last night.  This year is a totally different story.  At least in our neighborhood, yard signs are pretty close to a 50/50 split, and we might actually have seen more Biden and Biden-Harris signs than T/P signs.

    Weirdest one was the folks who have a flagpole with an American flag, Trump banner flying beneath it–and two Biden-Harris signs stuck into the ground on either side of the flagpole, along with a “We believe black lives matter sign.”  Still SMDH trying to figure that one out….

  49. 49.

    debbie

    Trump’s FB political page is running an ad with a lousy Photoshop of Biden wearing an earpiece.

    ? ? ?

  52. 52.

    Ken

    @dm: ActBlue’s ticker has increased by more than $400 million since RBG’s death.

    For years Republicans have claimed there’s no point raising taxes on billionaires, because there’s so few of them that it wouldn’t raise that much money.  Guess what, it turns out the same is true of political fundraising!  The party that gets $10 from 40 million people out-raises the one that relies on $10 million from 20 people.

  55. 55.

    Ken

    @geg6: Jesus, did Eric do the Photoshop on that one?

    No, the “Epmurt Political Consulting LLC” was paid a quarter of a million dollars for that.

    Hmm, according to the records it was incorporated in Delaware just last week, and the board of directors includes John Barron, E. Barron, and David Dennison, all located at the same business address in Palm Beach County.

  56. 56.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    • @geg6: He’s probably too busy prepping for his judge ordered testimony in that financial fraud case next week.
  58. 58.

    Zelma

    @debbie:

    Re Proud Boy types getting caught in Trump’s debacles:  I live in Cape May County, the epicenter of Trumpism in NJ.  I can’t tell you how many locals got hurt by Trump’s Atlantic City adventure.  And yet, he’s their guy.  My “favorite” story: a fellow’s best friend was driven into bankruptcy by Trump’s shenanigans and killed himself.  And yet, he still supports Trump.  The racism is deep in these people.

  61. 61.

    Aleta

    @Kattails:  That wind took our power and it’s still off.   Just picking up more anti-inflam for the dog.  He has a type of tumor in his forehead, but so far is still enjoying all his friends,  trails, food and cardboard.  The anti-inflam and medicine seem to keep his spirits high.  Thanks.

  63. 63.

    Cheryl Rofer

    @debbie: That’s very cleaned up. Here in New Mexico, we know it’s what SeniorMoment said.

    And it is being applied liberally. Some folks here have made pins in the same style as the Shepard Fairey Obama posters, but it’s Trump with the word “Pendejo” below. Unfortunately, they’re an amateur operation, and the pins aren’t generally available.

  64. 64.

    Kathleen

    @Peale: Jeni’s has a seasonal cherry cordial brand which is to die for. I had it once in a restaurant but have yet to see it in the freezer section of my friendly Kroger store. It. Is. So. Good. If you ever see it buy about 20 pints. Those should last you a couple of weeks.

  66. 66.

    Kathleen

    @Humanities Prof: I’ve seen very few Trump or Biden signs in Cincinnati. I’ve seen far more signs for the local elections. The greatest number of Biden and BLM signs I’ve seen are in one of Cincinnati’s wealthiest neighborhoods.  I live in what is called a “changing” neighborhood 5 minutes from downtown. Incomes vary widely and our population is very diverse thank goodness. Sad to say I saw 3 Trump signs on my street.

  67. 67.

    Ken

    @Cheryl Rofer: Maybe it’s one of those words where the meaning in Castilian Spanish differs from that in Mexico.

    I remember a (possibly-apocryphal) story of a missionary who got caught that way, using a verb that according to his dictionary meant “take, seize” but in the local dialect was the f-bomb.

  68. 68.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    If the proud boys support the moronic Kenosha shooter, they’re far more dangerous than I would have expected.

    If *ANYONE* can call the Kenosha shooter anything other than a complete frickin’ moron (or, the same, but using stronger language), they’re either evil, stupid, or both.

    Guns are tools, okay? And you pick the right tool for the job. If you saw someone with a 20 pound sledgehammer, and they said they needed to drive a small nail, to hang a small picture, on the wall, you’d call them a moron.

    Imagine this: you’re going into a crowded area – there might be dozens of people nearby.

    Why would you bring a rifle that fires high velocity rounds? You don’t shoot at things unless you know your target and backstop, and in that situation THERE IS NO BACKSTOP, so you DO NOT bring a rifle that could kill someone a hundred yards away, in order to protect property.

    Why not? BECAUSE YOU DON’T EVER USE LETHAL FORCE TO PROTECT ORDINARY PROPERTY FROM PEOPLE 10s OF YARDS AWAY.

    And if you’re going to be protecting yourself or property from people 10s of feet away, a handgun or shotgun is a better choice.

    I can have some basic respect for someone who trains with actual thought in the use of guns and tactics. I remember the movie Tremors, where the survivalist pair are more than a bit over-the-top, but I loved how Mr. Survivalist checked the 6-gun he handed to the kid to give him some dutch courage. (It’s good discipline – when you accept a weapon, check its load state. But it also goes back to an old joke about gun safety: “guns load themselves around stupid people – like, those who don’t check the load state when taking control of them.”)

    I don’t have any respect for someone who thinks having a rifle known to shoot high velocity rounds means you’re a badass, or who treats it as a toy, or worse, uses it to “make a statement” (talk about the wrong use of a tool!).

  75. 75.

    Paul W.

    @jl: would love some links to the GOP strategy and ground game. So far I just keep seeing the repeated “2 million volunteer ground game” and I just don’t buy it.

  76. 76.

    Manxome Bromide

    @Ken: There are an alarming number of these. Spanish is a very widely-distributed language and a lot of words that are innocuous in one place are wildly obscene in others.

    I once was looking at a translation guide for business software and there was something like a three-page table for Spanish saying NEVER USE THESE WORDS EVER and my grade-school Spanish said that a great many of those words were various synonyms for “to take” or “to have”.

    And, you know, both of those kind of are the F-Bomb even in English if you waggle your eyebrows hard enough while saying them…

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