With hundreds of supporters potentially exposed to coronavirus, the White House has done little to prevent further spread https://t.co/Yx2sHf3veN
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 4, 2020
… Ain’t that just the nicest way of phrasing this mess.
Because I am a devout Cynic, it would not surprise me if lifelong germophobe and hypochondriac Trump mistook a post-bad-debate panic attack (pouring sweat, trembling hands, shortness of breath) for an attack of the ‘Rona. If so, after a few days of ‘medical’ pampering — have you seen the sweet Presidential suite at Walter Reed? — he will emerge as ‘fit’ as ever, and twice as obnoxious, braying about his superior genes.
On the other hand, who knows, maybe he’s really sick! Many emergency doctors have pointed out that frequently the first symptom of a coronavirus among the elderly is not fever, but confusion, anxiety, rage, even hallucinations — much as displayed by the guy standing on the opposite side of the debate platform from Joe Biden last Tuesday.
Either way, his entire administration and the rest of the GOP death cult will continue to lie about it, just as they are lying right now, and have been lying since news of the ‘novel Wuhan-based virus’ arose back in January. Keep the hip boots handy…
wow. would not have guessed an organization whose entire incentive structure pivots around nothing but manipulating fear and favoritism of the leader would collapse instantly on removing the leader https://t.co/syDXSwYWlm
— kilgore trout, acting president (@KT_So_It_Goes) October 4, 2020
Yesterday they said he had a mild case and was only being taken to Walter Reed as a precaution. Today they are saying he has made an "unbelievable improvement from yesterday" and they were "very concerned." They have no credibility. https://t.co/nsxuAKeMgd
— Molly Knight (@molly_knight) October 4, 2020
obviously I don’t know the trajectory of every case of covid but I don’t recall seeing any cases where a patient got to the point of hospitalization trump is at and within a week popped out the other side good as new. it’s always weeks and weeks of climbing out https://t.co/OSTSwibUNO
— kilgore trout, acting president (@KT_So_It_Goes) October 4, 2020
my only point here is “optimistic” in reality based on everything we know is “preserve survival and aiming for quasi-functional in a few weeks”, not “shake this thing off and go back to work next week”. they’re really selling the sizzle here and hiding the ball
— kilgore trout, acting president (@KT_So_It_Goes) October 4, 2020
Sources: Trump had heart palpitations on Friday, a possible negative side effect of Regeneron antibody treatment. His fever reached 103. And a G7 ally wonders if he’ll appoint Ivanka president instead of Pence. My latest:
https://t.co/ND8zVtyodU— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) October 3, 2020
Schadenfreudelicious rumors from a best-selling rumormonger:
… The White House’s shifting chronology and lack of transparency are being driven, in part, by Trump’s desire to conceal the seriousness of his illness from the public. Three sources said Trump argued with his doctors on Friday after they told him he needed to be moved to Walter Reed. “He didn’t want to go to the hospital a month before the election,” a Republican close to Trump told me. Two sources said doctors gave Trump an ultimatum: he could go to the hospital while he could still walk, or doctors would be forced to take him in a wheelchair or on a stretcher at a later point if his health deteriorated. “They told him, ‘You can go now or we’re taking you later and it’s non negotiable,’” a second source close to the White House said. Trump waited to leave for the hospital until the stock market closed on Friday, a source said.
After spending months denying the dangers of COVID-19, Trump is expressing an emotion aides have rarely seen: fear. On Friday, Trump grew visibly anxious as his fever spiked to 103 fahrenheit and he was administered oxygen at the White House, according to three Republicans close to the White House. Two sources told me Trump experienced heart palpitations on Friday night—possible side effects of the experimental antibody treatment he received. Trump has wondered aloud if he could defeat the disease. “Am I going out like Stan Chera?” Trump has asked aides, referring to his friend, New York real-estate developer Stan Chera, who died of COVID in April.
On Saturday, two sources said Trump was feeling better. But it is difficult to assess the information given the White House’s history of lying. According to a source, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has told Republicans that the next few days will be critical to determine the virus’s outcome. “Meadows has said if Trump can get out of the hospital by Tuesday, then he’s gone through the worst of it. But if he’s still there after Tuesday, the worst is yet to come,” the source told me.
Inside Trumpworld, the shock of Trump’s hospitalization is giving way to despair about his prospects in the upcoming election. “They all know it’s over,” a Republican close to the campaign said…
Geminid
Cool clear dawn here in central Virginia, with a bright morning star. Gonna be another beautiful day.
Nicole
What I will never forgive the GOP for (well, one of the many things), is that I’ve reached a point where I simply don’t believe anything my government tells me. That’s a very stressful place to be.
Anne Laurie
@Nicole: How’s the pup doing?
Splitting Image
Just goes to show that Trump is the symptom, not the disease.
The entire basis of these guys’ worldview is that everybody else is supposed to give them the benefit of the doubt no matter what they say, so telling one howler of a lie after another is all in a day’s work. Did you know that Jesus is their personal saviour?
I’ve seen people say they are afraid that Trump will get a sympathy boost out of this, but I think the constant lying will stop that from happening.
PsiFighter37
A lot of people seem to think both the video and pictures released of Trump yesterday are edited and/or taken before he left for Walter Reed. Perhaps the most amusing one is of him signing a blank piece of paper with a Sharpie…these idiots can’t even fake-stage a fake signing properly.
sanjeevs
Likely scenario is Trump knew he had tested positive before the debate.
So he deliberately arrived late at the debate so he couldn’t be tested.
Then he spent two hours shouting in Biden’s direction in the hope he would infect Biden.
mrmoshpotato
Oh these shitstained assclowns.
How about the despair caused by the realization that we’re coming for all you Russthuglican fuckfaces and taking no prisoners?
Morzer
I am grimly amused by the dismantling of the latest Trump propaganda video which couldn’t even edit out his coughing competently. And then there are the propaganda pictures which show him signing… a blank page of paper. What a miserable goat rodeo the White House currently is.
scav
Consider this. We’ve finally found something that Trump and the Republicans as a whole will actually share — willingly and enthusiastically share — with everyone; a deadly disease.
mrmoshpotato
@PsiFighter37: How does your fancy ass sign blank pieces of paper? With a fountain pen?
mrmoshpotato
@Morzer: What did goat rodeos ever do to you?
Morzer
@mrmoshpotato: I’d love to tell you, but.. the NDA… you know how it is.
mrmoshpotato
@Morzer:
No I don’t, but I’m inclined to feel sorry for the goats. :)
Geo Wilcox
I just read a frightening post on the ProMed site. This shit can trigger Parkinson’s disease. It happened before after the 1918 flu pandemic. A huge surge in Parkinson’s diagnoses happened 3 years after the pandemic burned out.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1474442220303057?via%3Dihub
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-23/covid-19-may-cause-parkinsons-disease-research-finds/12688384
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41531-020-00123-0
Morzer
@mrmoshpotato: It was all very [COUGH REDACTED] therapeutic.
Nicole
@Anne Laurie: Thank you for asking! She’s on the last few days of a 10-day antibiotic course and seems right as rain again. The (new) vet ran bloodwork and said everything was perfect, so it looks like a UTI was indeed the problem. She’ll have a follow up this week to be sure though.
tokyocali (formerly tokyo expat)
Biden will have his work cut out for him in restoring the credibility and competence of our government.
We have no idea when the president actually found out he was positive. Was it 72 hours before or 48 hours before?
We have a CDC who was standing by to do contact tracing, but was never told to go ahead and do so. People attending various events have apparently not been contacted.
Local health authorities have not been contacted by the White House and are doing what they can to figure out who attended the events in their states (MN, NJ, etc.)
We have doctors at our top military hospital providing more spin than doctoring if you listen to Commander whatshisname.
This administration has been a farce from start to finish. I hope this closes the chapter on them, but I know it won’t. We are stuck with this reality TV family and their horribleness for the foreseeable future.
Anne Laurie
@Nicole: That’s great news, thanks!
(And now, I go to bed.)
TS (the original)
I feel for the ordinary people who work at the white house East & West). What on earth are they supposed to do? Business as usual? Quarantine? Get tested?
Everything I read tells me they are finding out what is happening in the media. Great example of health place work & safety within this administration.
Morzer
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312586170325495809
Looks like COVID-19 is just mowing down anyone in the White House without mercy.
Baud
@Morzer:
“I will not be denied!”
zhena gogolia
@Nicole:
I never thought this country would feel like the Soviet Union in this respect. But it does.
We’re down to the point of getting clues based on them playing Swan Lake on TV.
Morzer
@zhena gogolia: As Trump might put it: “We have met the enema and he is us.”
(((CassandraLeo)))
I just keep thinking of this quote from Archer: “This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morissette had a baby and named it this exact situation.”
(That episode also has a reference to Chekhov’s gun, by the way. Not too many animated comedies can boast that.)
Whoever is writing this season has obviously given up on subtlety, but at this point, I’m here for it. Subtlety obviously was lost on most of the American public. Maybe this will sink in.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam esse dēlendam īgnī ferrōque.
SiubhanDuinne
I’m having a lot of trouble reconciling this…
…with this:
Or better stated, I would have trouble reconciling the two statements if I didn’t know for a fact that Trump and every single person in this custerfluck of a maladministration lies about everything. Everything.
RandomMonster
@Morzer:
It moved on ‘em like a bitch.
Bruce K
@(((CassandraLeo))): There’s a trope called “Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped”, and it exists for a reason.
Princess
“Because I am a devout Cynic, it would not surprise me if lifelong germophobe and hypochondriac Trump mistook a post-bad-debate panic attack (pouring sweat, trembling hands, shortness of breath) for an attack of the ‘Rona.”
You say this, but i think I had the exact opposite happen to me. I thought I was having a panic attack and later realized it was a virus when my husband had the same thing happen a few days later. And even later I wondered if it had been ‘Rona because we had both bee exposed to someone who had the same thing a few days before us who herself had ben exposed to someone who died of ‘Rona.
My own guess with Trump is that they are using a rapid test that is inclined to give false positives. He got a few positive tests and insisted they were false until he came down with symptoms. This is why they won’t tell us when his last negative test was — may have been a week Friday!
J R in WV
@(((CassandraLeo))):
Good to see you, I missed you being here!
How have you been lately?
It looks like your slogan will get a good workout to me. Do keep in touch, the place isn’t really the same without you!
Stacib
Where are the tweets proclaiming how he has kicked this hoax virus in the ass, and he will re emerge stronger, smarter and more handsome than evah???
Morzer
@RandomMonster: Grabbed ’em by the POTUSSY. They let you do that when you’re a pandemic.
RandomMonster
@Morzer: LOL
Morzer
Northern Conservative Cynic Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Cynic Eastern Region?
rikyrah
Every Democrat in a debate with a Republican needs to bring their own version of the Jamie Harrison plastic booth.
They do not Respect science and can’t be trusted.
That includes Kamala.
SFAW
@TS (the original):
Murderer-in-Chief affecting a Gert Frobe accent: “No, peons, I expect you to DIE!.”
ETA: Yes, I know he thinks “peon” is two words, and only associated with Russian hookers.
hells littlest angel
The past two days I have woken up feeling great. I think I’ve turned the corner.
SFAW
@rikyrah:
I saw a clip of Harrison taking the wood to Graham last night re: Graham’s whoring on SCOTUS confirmations in an election year, but in general how did the debate go for Harrison? The usual suspects said he “destroyed” Graham, but they tend to be hyperbolic (to put it mildly).
rikyrah
@sanjeevs:
Come socially distance sit by me ?
rikyrah
@SFAW:
He did very good.
Lindsey was whining for nearly all of it.
rikyrah
@hells littlest angel:
???
Patricia Kayden
rikyrah
rikyrah
@Patricia Kayden:
????
JPL
@Morzer: The White House was hoping the president would be asymptomatic and tried to bury the Hope Hicks diagnosis. Jacobs broke that story and then the House of Cards started collapsing.
rikyrah
SFAW
@rikyrah:
Yeah, I’ve seen the polls. I’m just hoping Graham doesn’t “Harvey Gantt” him. Good to hear that you thought Harrison did well. Thanks!
Sloane Ranger
@Stacib:
Yes, I wondered that. Didn’t he use to have a ghost tweeter? I remember Adam saying he could tell whether a tweet actually came from Trump based on the phone used. Where’s this guy now? Or is he one of those who have also gone down with COVID-19?
Hell, even Herman Cain managed to tweet when he was actually dead!
rikyrah
rikyrah
SFAW
@Sloane Ranger:
Well, it IS kind of fitting that twitter is the usual mode of communication from those “souls” in Hell.
JPL
@rikyrah: That’s what a think and in the case of Kamala in would be a giant finger to trump and his grifters.
Geminid
@rikyrah: There are a number of good Democratic Senate candidates this, and Jaime Harrison is one of the most impressive.
SFAW
@rikyrah:
As if Mitch cares about “guidelines” that would prevent him from his further/continued dismantling of democracy.
Princess
@rikyrah: Yes, I watched several clips and I thought he was excellent. I felt like his message was carefully calibrated to appeal to winnable voters, and he stayed on it. His answer to the question about partisanship was especially well done. He seemed confident without being arrogant, and Graham was a scared whiny mess.,
Wyatt Salamanca
Kudos to John King for comparing the White House staff to the Keystone Cops. These guys are the Keystone Cops on steroids.
h/t https://twitter.com/kylepope/status/1312424964189020162
Morzer
@Princess: That’s the way the (Graham) cracker crumbles.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@SFAW: Harrison was on Lovett or Leave It yesterday and was very good.
Ken
Has anyone suggested that maybe Trump always signs blank pieces of paper, and they print whatever they want on them later? Barr probably has a stack of a couple hundred ready for National Pardon Day, which falls on November 5 this year.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@Bruce K: For sure. This is most certainly one of them!
@J R in WV: Thanks! I’ve been trying to avoid obsessing over the news too much lately, so I’ve been focusing more on some of my hobbies (game development being the big one – I’m trying to avoid providing any information that could potentially dox myself, but if you search for information on third-party Marathon Aleph One mods, you’ll undoubtedly uncover at least one to which I’ve contributed and/or am still contributing), but then something like this happens, and how can you not obsess?
In any case… I’m doing OK. Lost a pet these last few months. Still grieving over that. Still grieving about RBG, too. Doing a decent job staying up with classes, with one or two slip-ups here or there. I’ll try to avoid disappearing completely for this long in the future. Hope you’re staying well as well!
I’ve added “with fire and sword” to the end of my Latin phrase at the end of each of my comments, BTW, because Cato the Censor by himself just isn’t forceful enough to convey my utter contempt for the party any longer. The current translation is: “Furthermore, I opine that the Republican Party is to be destroyed with fire and sword.” My addendum is a phrase commonly used in Latin writing to describe scorched-earth tactics in warfare.
At some point, I feel as though I may have to graduate to nuking the entire party from orbit… because it’s the only way to be sure. But I rather doubt that the Romans had a phrase for the use of nuclear weapons.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam esse dēlendam īgnī ferrōque.
SFAW
@Princess:
Day ending in “y,” etc.
SFAW
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Did he and Lyle sing a duet?
I have no idea what that show is, and not enough caffeine (yet) to Google it
Chicagopat
“Trump is expressing an emotion aides have rarely seen: fear.”
Rather than, “Trump is manifesting his normal gibbering, incoherent fear of inadequacy, embarrassment and betrayal, layered over with an actual fear of imminent death, which they haven’t seen before. “
MattF
This is news to me.
SFAW
@Chicagopat:
Fixed
Morzer
@MattF:
Well, I believe in Finland, so Suomi!
sanjeevs
53 to 39. Nice
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-national-lead-over-trump-jumps-14-points-after-n1242018
debbie
Ivanka appointed president? The last thing I need is another nightmare.
Patricia Kayden
MomSense
I texted my kids yesterday to ask if anyone else was checking their phones to see if the president was dead yet. Teenager responded immediately that it was the first thing he did when he woke up.
I’m not going to feel guilty about it anymore. That motherfucker was rooting for people in blue states to die and using the power of the government to make it happen. They have been trying to kill us.
MattF
And no, he wasn’t signing a so-called ‘blank’ sheet of paper. It was his healthcare plan.
Ken
@sanjeevs: “And men 50 years and older moved from a 13-point advantage for Trump in the pre-debate NBC News/WSJ poll, to a 1-point advantage for Biden in this latest poll.”
I finally feel I can show my face in public again. Except for the pandemic thing.
Wyatt Salamanca
@Chicagopat:
Trump has been hoisted by his own petard and I feel fine about that.
I do hope he recovers from COVID not because I care about the ratfucking bastard, but because he deserves to die in a prison cell as a convicted felon.
Morzer
@debbie: President Ivanka And Related Brands, if we are going to use the official nomenclature.
hells littlest angel
@MomSense: I confess that upon awakening I’ve been checking to see if Trump is dead for the last four years, but it’s been a lot more fun and exciting the past couple of days.
debbie
There was a sizable Trump Truck Rally here yesterday. Apparently they drove slowly along one of the interstates. Of course, there was an altercation and one of the paraders shot at a truck driver who was probably ticked off at the slow-down.
Morzer
@Wyatt Salamanca: I want Trump to survive and haunt the GOP for the next 4 years making them ever less electable.
Ksmiami
@Baud: said Covid -19
The Thin Black Duke
@Wyatt Salamanca: Considering Trump owes a truckload of money to the Russian mob, he’d might not live long enough to spend life in prison.
hells littlest angel
@Morzer: If he survives and when he loses, the right-wing will pretend he never existed, though the ONAN network will probably give him some airtime.
Morzer
@Morzer: I must admit that I do sometimes think it would be fun to get lots of people to tweet at Trump “HELLO, DONALD” in the voice of Terry Pratchett’s Death.
OzarkHillbilly
But then, you repeat yourself.
Morzer
@hells littlest angel: I think you are absolutely wrong about that. The right wing isn’t going to get any say in the matter. The cultists will primary anyone who even suggests that Trump isn’t the bigliest and bestest.
Ken
@MomSense: @hells littlest angel: Sounds like there’s a need for a tracker, like the two (at least) set up for Abe Vigoda. One of those was up for 15 years (2001-2016) before they had to update.
debbie
I expect lots of people here were disappointed in Jim Carey’s Biden on SNL, but that bit with the remote control saved the whole thing for me.
Ken
@Morzer: He wouldn’t recognize it since he’s never read Pratchett. I say that with some confidence since (1) he never reads the official papers he’s supposed to read and (2) Pratchett doesn’t talk about him so he wouldn’t see any point in reading it.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@Morzer: Small Gods has my favourite ending of any work of literature in human history. Tagged as white text because, really now.
I’m resolutely agnostic, but if there’s an afterlife, I hope we get one like that.
I, meanwhile, am nowhere near that merciful.
Cᴇ́ᴛᴇʀᴜᴍ ᴄᴇ́ɴsᴇᴏ́ ғᴀᴄᴛɪᴏ́ɴᴇᴍ Rᴇ́ᴘᴠ́ʙʟɪᴄᴀ́ɴᴀᴍ ᴇssᴇ ᴅᴇ́ʟᴇɴᴅᴀᴍ ɪ́ɢɴɪ́ ғᴇʀʀᴏ́ᴏ̨ᴜᴇ.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Morzer: Could we get a GoFundMe to pay someone to stroll silently by his bed at 3 am in a Grim Reaper outfit every night? That would satisfy me.
WereBear
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Why go small? Let’s have the classic 3 ghosts.
Suzanne
@Morzer: I want Trump to survive, too. If he dies now, he won’t live to see Melania divorce him and take what remains of his money, Ivanka become a pariah upon her return to New York, and his most hardcore followers devolve into total liars who, within eighteen months….. well, it’ll seem like no one will admit voting for the man. I’d love for all of that to happen while he’s in prison, but I’m not optimistic about that part.
If he dies now, he gets to evade any consequences.
trnc
Not “Am I going out like 214,000 others?” Nope, just the one guy he knew.
H.E.Wolf
Electoral Vote blog’s clarity of exposition (and their sense of humor) are viewable in the first 2 paragraphs of today’s blog. Either click on the “State of the Race…” link, in the Balloon Juice “Election Action!” sidebar, or go here:
https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Oct04.html#item-1
The grammarians at BJ, of whom I am one, will enjoy the first paragraph’s final sentence.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@SFAW: It’s a podcast by one of the Obama bros, Jon Lovett.
Sab
@MomSense: Lol, or at least a deep chuckle.That’s how I start my day also.
trnc
Yup, but incontestable is that he and his family at least knew they had been exposed to someone who was very ill, so the malicious intent is clear.
Ken
@trnc: I thought there were reports his brother had died of covid? Was that ever verified or debunked?
dmsilev
@Suzanne: Or, to quote the classics,
geg6
@SFAW:
I didn’t see the whole thing but have now partaken in several clips. He took a 2×4 to Lindsay’s knees, a baseball bat to his ribs and a saw to his neck. He was beautiful. He’s a real star, I think.
OzarkHillbilly
@(((CassandraLeo))): Am I the only one who sees a huge blank spot?
MomSense
@hells littlest angel:
@Sab:
Yesterday I went for a really nice hike that took me to two beautiful coves. The pup did some wading and some rolling in mud. I felt lighter of spirit than I have in a couple years.
Brachiator
Trump might be a hell of a con man, but it would be tough even for him to take a positive test result. It’s not like sneaking in a dummy urine sample.
Ken
@H.E.Wolf: One striking thing about that electoral map is that, if all the other states are assigned correctly, Trump could take California and still lose, with Biden taking more electoral votes than Trump got in 2016.
OzarkHillbilly
@trnc: Reports are that his brother died of covid too. Kinda telling that trump didn’t mention him.
trnc
This is why I have nothing but contempt for Scott Atlas and his ilk. It’s crazy to claim a virus with no vaccine and with known lingering effects is like the flu or any other virus we’re familiar with. Covid has after effects that would seem unrelated to the illness itself, like brain damage, and that’s just what we know 9 months in.
Another reason someone who is not an epidemiologist or who does not have the relevant experience should not have a megaphone in the public discourse.
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: Mouse-select over it. The text is white so it’s not a spoiler.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: oh please oh please!
Starfish
Good morning, crazification factor.
TS (the original)
Don’t know if this has been posted
trnc
No official cause was given, so that’s most likely correct. DT was probably told it wasn’t covid because he probably insisted it wasn’t.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ken: Thanx. I don’t know these things.
trnc
@Starfish: That number 27 continues to perform.
Patricia Kayden
Hell naw.
JPL
@debbie: His aviators were cool, although I think Carey overplays the role. We’ve all wanted to mute him.
trnc
I think I read there was a no mask policy in place by Meadows, but can’t remember for sure or vouch for it.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@dmsilev: I literally quoted that speech last night on LGM. I find myself thinking of it often, these days.
@OzarkHillbilly: Done deliberately, as @Ken said, to avoid spoiling the ending of the book for people who haven’t read it yet. If you highlight it, it should be perfectly legible. If not, I recommend getting a better browser, or I guess you could always copy it to a new Notepad document.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam esse dēlendam īgnī ferrōque.
JPL
I’ve been thinking about The Great Gatsby lately and might have to read it again. They were careless people, Tom and Daisy – they smashed up things. The difference is that they didn’t have the power to kill so many and Daisy didn’t say f..k this Christmas stuff.
I hope Biden can pick up the pieces and remind us what a functioning government looks like.
artem1s
@Splitting Image:
I read thru the comments on an ABC article about the superspreader debate in CLE and found not one sympathetic remark. I’m sure the bots haven’t gotten to it yet, but after a couple of dozen you always get at least one troll for the troll. So it was definitely weird. People are pissed. Less about him than their friends, colleagues, neighbors, family who are being exposed because of someone’s complete lack of concern for others. It might finally be sinking in exactly how ruthless and horrid these people are. Those who have tried to be civil and remain calm have just lost all patience with that and are speaking out in numbers that we haven’t seen before.
debbie
@Patricia Kayden:
I saw someone yesterday suggest the election be delayed for an entire year.
trnc
@Patricia Kayden: 50 year old and up men moving from overwhelmingly DT to slight Biden advantage was the biggest surprise for me.
OzarkHillbilly
@(((CassandraLeo))): I got it now. It was just that before now I had never heard the phrase, “Tagged as white text” and had no idea what it was. I thought maybe it meant, “No dumbshit, luddite Hillbillies allowed.”
Omnes Omnibus
@WereBear: Scrooge got the three ghosts because Marley interceded for him. Who would do that for Trump?
Ken
@debbie: I think that was a foreigner, with ways different from our own. Or was that the guy who said Trump should make Ivanka vice-president?
Anyway as someone noted, that just means Pelosi becomes president in January, since she’d (presumably) still be speaker and we wouldn’t have a president or vice-president.
trnc
Yup. I was glad to see that Biden was hitting back some this morning. I suppose there’s still some kind of line somewhere he shouldn’t cross, but if DT’s team is going to keep saying how well he’s doing, why should Biden have to worry about negative ads at this point?
Does anyone know if DT has pulled negative ads since Biden did? Or did the checks from the donors he tried to infect bounce?
trnc
Zing!
Ken
@Omnes Omnibus: Good point. Marley was Scrooge’s former business partner, and I can’t imagine anyone who’s done business with Trump wanting to help him.
trnc
@hells littlest angel: He might be in hiding after his main source of revenue dries up (taxpayer paid trips and hotel bookings).
JPL
@trnc: Negative Biden ads have been running nonstop in GA for months, and trump is still having difficulty here.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: People say all kinds of stupid shit. The presidential succession and the date of the election are not things in Trump’s control.
trnc
@Ken: There was nothing official, so that fueled speculation (as you would expect).
artem1s
@Ken:
Trump always signs blank pieces of paper
sad part about that dog and pony show is all of them think this is what work looks like. FFS
(((CassandraLeo)))
@OzarkHillbilly: Haha, no, I just meant the HTML/CSS tags on the text were specifying a white colour. Perhaps I should’ve specifically used the word “spoiler”, but in my defence, I’d just mentioned that it was the ending of the book. No worries though.
@trnc: Judging from the shit I’m seeing on YouTube, they absolutely have not pulled negative ads.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam esse dēlendam īgnī ferrōque.
Brachiator
@Omnes Omnibus:
The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein.
ThresherK
CBS Sunday Morning has introduced a segment talking about the idea of the October Surprise. Nixon sabotaging peace talks with North Vietnam; Reagan interfering with the Iranians; you know?
Nothing this year has been an October Surprise.
Aren’t there any grownup journos left at CBS?
OzarkHillbilly
Teeheehee… You actually think that would have made a difference., your lack of knowledge about the depths of my ignorance is just adorable.
Ken
He’s more likely to interrupt Fox and Friends by crawling out of the TV to drag Trump to hell.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: Then President Pelosi would be sworn in at noon on January 20th.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
I wasn’t worried it would happen, but I was horrified Trump might try it. My skull can’t take much more pounding against my desk.
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
That alone should be a disincentive for Trump!
MoCA Ace
I think that’s SOP with all Trumps isn’t it?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Chicagopat:
sources close to the president-elect who were pretty clearly Chris Christie said (IIRC) he looked like he had seen a ghost when the ’16 returns started to come in. I think Fredo let slip something similar.
Patricia Kayden
Yep.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@trnc:
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Roy Cohn.
//
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator: @NotMax: But would they?
germy
Jaime debates Lindsey, while Lindsey stands there shaking his head.
I didn’t see the whole debate. I wonder if Lindsey asked his donors for money from the debate stage.
Ihop
Please forgive if this has been already said, but I believe the phrase we seek is “criminally negligent genocide”.
Although a good team of attorneys might be able to talk it down to “casually”.
germy
Harrison knew Graham would be spitting in rage, so this was a good extra precaution.
MoCA Ace
It was exactly what I expected. He plays one character. I’m just surprised he didn’t roll out an “all righty then”. I find him unwatchable.
germy
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@MoCA Ace: on the whole I think SNL has been pretty good the last couple years, but the reliance on stunt-casting is so weird and so weak, especially bringing Jim Carrey down from the pop-culture attic
I guess we should be glad they didn’t go to the Kate McKinnon well again for Biden. And I like Kate McKinnon
germy
p.a.
Have they scheduled tRump’s
YangtzePotomac River swim yethueyplong
Just watched parts of the SC debate and just wow. Either Lindsey Graham REALLY had to go to the bathroom or he physically showed the TV audience that he knew he was being flayed alive.
That was some GoT-level stuff.
I’m a fan of this Harrison guy
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Oddly enough, it occurs to me Bea Arthur could pull off a fine Biden impression.
Except for her being dead and all.
Kay
Good polling this weekend for Biden! I wonder if the low quality Trump hires are looking for work yet- is the nation’s private sector scam industry prepared to absorb all the newly unemployed Trump hires?
I heard there were openings at My Pillow.
Kay
@hueyplong:
I was struck by how Graham looks like he knows he’s losing. He looks exhausted and scared and sad.
Humanities Prof
@(((CassandraLeo))): Or, even better, just get a copy of Small Gods and read the whole thing, because it’s amazing.
trollhattan
@Patricia Kayden:
My thought: save the country.
My prayer: please, save the country.
Whoops, those are the last I have in the cupboard.
trollhattan
@Kay:
Is there a legit chance Lindsay loses? That would be amazing, if so. Losing to a black man in South Carolina would make it 5X so. LFG!
germy
@Kay:
He’s never had to work so hard in his life.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@hueyplong: I’m usually skeptical of the body language analysis, but that rocking back and forth and staring into the middle-distance did not look good.
@NotMax: and her voice was too low even before she died
HinTN
@OzarkHillbilly:
TAGLINE
NotMax
@germy
Cannot bring myself to become incensed about the accommodations. They pre-date him and are being put to a use for which they are intended.
Will go so far as to posit the layout and and decor are several steps above what’s found in the presidential suites of any of his hotels.
germy
So Trump is signing a blank piece of paper in the photo they released of him?
More empty theater.
Ken
@Humanities Prof: Small Gods is also relatively standalone, and you can read it without knowing the rest of the series.
IIRC, the only characters that might need some background are the Librarian and the History Monks. The only other repeating character is DEATH, and he’s pretty self-explanatory.
p.a.
@Kay: Senator is a great gig, but Wingnut Welfare is pretty cush. Does Lil Lindsey think he won’t qualify? Should be a shoe-in if he stays in the closet, yes?
trollhattan
@Ken:
Allowink me to now introduce “business partner” Vlad. Rumored to be one of world’s richest men.
germy
@NotMax:
It’s not the the luxury, it’s the simultaneous attempt to destroy the Affordable Care Act.
If Biden were in the same position after signing a bill expanding the ACA, public option, lower copays, etc., I’d say he deserves every comfort.
trollhattan
@p.a.:
Anybody hear from Eric Cantor lately? I’m sure he landed lightly on his loafer-shod feet.
HinTN
@trollhattan: And SC would have two African American Senators!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@NotMax: also, it’s a good hook for “$750/year gets great health care for some people….”
Ken
@p.a.: I think after Trump loses, he’ll be lashing out in every direction but especially at any Republican Senators that have lost – he’ll be blaming them for dragging him down. If that happens, Graham and the others might become too toxic for any network that still has to cater to the Trump cult.
germy
Jinchi
Sure, but unless Trump has had coronavirus for the last 10 years, I don’t think those symptoms are useful for diagnosing the man.
The Thin Black Duke
@Kay: And Kay drops the mic.
Dorothy A. Winsor
I’m reading AMERICAN DIRT. Somebody tell me there’ll be at least a semi-happy ending.
p.a.
@Ken: tRumpturds are all about ‘winning’. If tRump gets someone withreal $$$ to build his network he might have staying power. Otherwise, he might be memory-holed like the fine fascist 40% did to W. If he survives covid, if he really has it. So Lindsey may be in better position than donnie. It’s donnie who’s the anchor, not the other way around. The institutional Rethug Party survived Nixon and W. Granted, shitmidas gonna shitmidas, but I’m afraid the Rethug Party & Lindsey will survive.
NotMax
@Kay
There’s always the banana stand.
:)
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@(((CassandraLeo))):
Archer is fantastic. The writing is sharp, and some really literate people are clearly involved.
hueyplong
@HinTN: Gives off a Reconstruction vibe, doesn’t it?
It’s time for one
Kay
That’s what I thought about when I saw the photos of the White House supreme court party. I thought about how every single student in our ordinary Ohio public high school was wearing a mask when I went in there to sign my son out early two weeks ago.
debbie
@Patricia Kayden:
Because of course. ??
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I still think Jason Sedakis’s Biden was the best.
Jinchi
I get the ICU, the kitchen, and all the rest.
But a crystal chandelier? Who thought that was an essential item?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
when I was a wee lad there were signs up in the streets around the local hospital that said something like “Quiet: Hospital Zone”.
BR
Anyone know if there are any reports on Biden testing negative again? Am very worried about this and it’s been on my mind constantly.
Patricia Kayden
@germy: Harrison did what I hope Senator Harris does during her debate with Pence. Protect yourself from these super spreaders. They don’t care but you should.
debbie
@Kay:
Good citizenship is for suckers and losers!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@debbie: me too
@Jinchi:
Eisenhower?
Luciamia
So…any word about a health update on the Pres.? Its 11 already.
Patricia Kayden
@germy: It makes me lol whenever Graham whines that Harrison is getting donations because people hate him. Yes we hate you, Graham. I’ve personally hated you since the Obama administration. So what?
sdhays
@germy: I could have sworn I saw a clip last night where he answered a challenge from Lindsey saying “who do you trust on the economy” with something like “I trust people who haven’t infected everyone with COVID”. But I can’t seem to find it, so maybe I hallucinated it.
Last night sucked, so hallucination is definitely a possibility.
Aleta
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-10-03/minnesota-congressmen-flew-delta-after-flying-with-trump
NotMax
OT. Lawdy, the movie on this week’s Noir Alley on TCM may be the dullest, most plodding noir ever.
Otto Preminger must have been mainlining Miltown.
@Jinchi
Hey, got to plant the listening devices somewhere.
:)
Patricia Kayden
@Jinchi: ?
Jinchi
That’s brilliant. I imagine debate stages usually prohibit props, but given the events of last week I doubt anyone would have dared to challenge him on this. Pretty sure Graham should be quarantining right now.
BTW is it possible that Graham looked so physically beaten at his debate for the same reason Trump looked sweaty and unhinged last Tuesday?
Ken
You’d think that as a member of the party of personal responsibility, he’d understand that actions have consequences.
Patricia Kayden
@Aleta: Looking forward to airlines banning Republican Congress critters from all flights as a health risk. They’re such selfish mofos.
Kay
Another good Pennsylvania poll.
To avoid the problem of the corrupt Bill Barr and the DOJ lawyers he has corrupted (I don’t know how many but it is more than zero) we need conclusive results in a few states. We still need monster turnout. A blowout solves most of the problems with corrupt actors interfering, including the SCOTUS.
StringOnAStick
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I sound a lot like Bea Arthur. I’m also 5’3″ and rather petite, so quite the contrast. People always remember if they’ve met me, it’s the voice and the contrast.
Mike in NC
Looks as if after November 4th nobody is ever going to invite Lindsay Graham to golf with them. Sad!
Patricia Kayden
@Splitting Image: Sympathy boost? From what I’m reading and hearing, quite a few of us are rooting for major injuries. Trump lacks even basic empathy for anyone not named Donald J Trump so there’s no reason for us to show him a drop of sympathy.
He contracted COVID because of his carelessness and mishandling of this pandemic. He’s reaping what he sowed.
NotMax
@BR
Wouldn’t get too worked up about it. Not to say there’s no concern (and we don’t know what occurred backstage) but the nature of the camera shots make them appear much closer than they actually were.
Patricia Kayden
@Mike in NC: Trump will.
Kay
@Patricia Kayden:
You would think airlines would enforce the rules just for their own self interest. They sell safety. They have to be able to tell people flying is safe. If you’re sitting next to some wingnut who refuses to follow the rules and no one enforces them that goes to the airline’s ability to keep passengers safe. I would think they would hang onto that with both hands.
Ken
@Kay: The part about Ohio being very close is also good. It’s generally agreed that puts Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan in the Democratic column since they trend bluer.
SiubhanDuinne
@WereBear:
@trnc:
Stan Chera was dead, to begin with. There is no doubt whatever about that. Old Chera was dead as a doornail.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yeah, I hate Trump but I doubt redoing the presidential suite at Walter Reed was on his radar.
Baud
@NotMax:
They were almost 13 feet apart. Too close for my comfort but not close.
0.
@Kay:
My not-so-fearless prediction: If there’s an obvious Biden blowout on November 3, The Traitors (Barr and Trump) will suddenly decide mail-in ballots MUST BE COUNTED (because their fellow racists/fascists/traitors “will have decided that mail-in is the only TRUE vote”). Plus, it will give them time to challenge every in-person vote, provisional vote, etc etc, in the hope of running out the clock and getting the SCOTUS Traitors to select Trump.
Now, I don’t REALLY think that will happen, but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if they did a 180, etc.
Your goddamn right I’m cynical.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
At some point we’re going to have to go all Waco on conservative lawbreakers just to remind them that we can.
Ken
I assume you mean covid, rather than flop sweat, or revelation of corruption and crimes, or huge loans due to the Russian mafia, or court orders to provide DNA, or fear his children are conspiring to declare him incompetent, or….
BR
@NotMax:
There have been outbreaks in restaurants between tables that were farther apart than that, and without one party spewing and spluttering for the whole time. It all comes down to airflow. (There’s good evidence that the 6 foot rule is useless indoors. It only applies to maskless, outdoors settings.)
SiubhanDuinne
@Ken:
Is there a way to read white text on an iPhone?
NotMax
@StringOnAStick
Not Dr. Girlfriend timbre, one presumes.
:)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: They never have understood the lyrics to “Born in the USA”, have they?
germy
I saw a story on the news about a man who was removed from a plane (fortunately before takeoff) because he objected to a maskless airline steward. The passenger was wearing a mask, but the stewardess had hers down around her chin.
Geminid
@trollhattan: Cantor took a job with an investment bank after his loss to Dave Brat in the 2014 Republican primary, and has kept a low profile since. Dave Brat lasted four years until Democrat Abigail Spanberger beat him in 2018. The Va 7th had been in republican hands for 48 years. Brat now teaches at Liberty University.
MagdaInBlack
@Humanities Prof: “Small Gods” is my favorite, I find something new and relevant every time I re-read it.
NotMax
@germy
“When they advertised ‘topless stewardesses’ this isn’t what I envisioned.”
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Ken
@SiubhanDuinne: No idea, I don’t have one. If you can copy the post text and paste it into some other app, maybe you can change the color?
Baud
@germy:
When else would a man be removed from a flight?
SiubhanDuinne
@Ken:
The person who suggested delaying the election for a year was the woman who challenged Nancy Pelosi in 2018. The person who suggested that Trump might appoint Ivanka as his Veep and successor was a high-ranking person from an unspecified G-7 country.
SFAW
Apparently, one of my usual stunningly witty and insightful comments got eated, so posting this as a test.
NotMax
@Baud
Aeroflot excluded, of course.
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OldDave
@Ken: Copy and then paste into a ‘Notes’ page worked. It’s a bit of a PITA, but it worked.
Aleta
@Aleta:
(From his site.)
NotMax
@SFAW
BTW, saw your comment about the movie last night but thread was long deceased by then.
I laughed.
trollhattan
@Geminid:
Thanks, that capsule history is very satisfying. Also, I believe it’s technically Liberty “University”. ;-)
SFAW
@(((CassandraLeo))):
The thing about that passage that gets me is that Brutha, after all Vorbis had done to him (and others), was still a compassionate soul.
I’m a devout atheist, but that behavior seems pretty Christ-like.
Aleta
@SiubhanDuinne: Here
From @(((CassandraLeo))): above
SFAW
@NotMax:
The “dia-critical” comment? Thanks.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Patricia Kayden: I’m old school, i’ve hated Lindsey since the Clinton impeachment.
OzarkHillbilly
Over Normandy?
SiubhanDuinne
@trollhattan:
I would absolutely love it if it turned out that South Carolina had two black Senators simultaneously. South Carolina, of all states!
SFAW
@Baud:
Well, in one episode, Harry Bosch removed a bad guy from a plane, mid-flight.
OzarkHillbilly
Witty and insightful… No wonder, the system thought it was spam.
SectionH
@SiubhanDuinne: Ken‘s suggestion works. I selected the white text, copied it, and then opened Notes and pasted it into a new note. Bit of a hassle, but if you’re out and about armed with just an iPhone, it’ll do.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Sounds good to me.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I listened to it last night and i completely agree. He was excellent.
danielx
@ThresherK:
Generally surprises are not one of my favorite things in life, because they’re usually unpleasant.
However, given the month to date, October Surprises are getting to be like packages under the Christmas tree. I know it’s a small sample so far.
eta: I hope that pastyfaced sonofabitch William Barr is sweating like lard melting in a hot skillet.
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: There’s also the Osama bin Laden example.
SiubhanDuinne
@Ken:
Thanks anyhow. I tried that and it shows as white text. I can vaguely make out that it’s a slightly whiter shade of pale, but the contrast isn’t sufficient to make out the words.
Aleta
@SiubhanDuinne: Hard to imagine the extent of how horrible it must be to be T’s Drs and nurses at WR. Of course they’ve trained to handle patients who’re argumentative, aggressive, delusional, confused, defiant, resistant to all authority. Ones who are powerful and won’t follow orders and recommendations… but put all those qualities together in one person who expects his every order to be obeyed immediately. Whose life or death or impairment impacts the country. Whose handlers are lying to the public about his condition. Who flies into rages but probably can’t be restrained. Who demands too much of their time. Whose relatives are just as bad.
Aleta
@SiubhanDuinne: I copied it here: @Aleta:
SiubhanDuinne
@Aleta:
Thank you. That’s lovely. I guess I’d better add Small Gods to the TBR queue.
SiubhanDuinne
@SectionH:
An iPhone is all I have. No desktop, no laptop, no tablet. I do everything on the phone.
Aleta
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Hack his entertainment system to play select scenes from The Seventh Seal at random throughout the night.
SFAW
@SiubhanDuinne:
I think you’ll enjoy it.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
No, the system thought it was someone intelligent/funny spoofing my nym/nom.
Ruckus
@Suzanne:
As much as I’d like to see him in prison I seriously doubt he’ll ever be in for even a day. This country seems to go out of it’s way not to hold it’s ex “leaders” responsible for anything. Maybe it’s not actually much different in most parts of the world and only in overthrown dictatorships do ex leaders suffer much indignity, like hanging from a lamppost for a while.
MattF
Folks, for the record, the way to deal with white-on-white text is to mark it and then copy-and-paste it into the ‘leave a comment’ text box. It will appear as ordinary text.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@OzarkHillbilly: Who would’ve ever guessed that sometimes, I might still qualify as an optimist?
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Yes, it’s clear that Adam Reed knows his literature. There’s all kinds of clever references to obscure literary works (what other animated show would sneak in a reference to Bartleby, the Scrivener?) and random bits of pop culture trivia. And more than a bit reminiscent of Arrested Development (probably not a coincidence, since they share several cast members).
@SFAW: That was no doubt deliberate on Pratchett’s part. I think Pratchett himself may also have been an atheist, or at least agnostic, but the Christ-like symbolism is pretty difficult to ignore.
Throw another recommendation on the pile for Small Gods, if my praise for the ending above wasn’t enough. It’s one of the finest, wisest works of literature I’ve ever read.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam esse dēlendam īgnī ferrōque.
WaterGirl
@TS (the original): Trump may have lost 4 points, but Biden only gained 2.
So what are those 2% up to? Unhappy with Trump but still can’t bring themselves to say they are for Biden?
WaterGirl
@Patricia Kayden: Anyone who suggests the election should be postponed so Trump can have more time to campaign SHOULD NEVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AGAIN. Ever.
Uncle Cosmo
Sorry, but nope. US Constitution, Amendment XX, Section 3 is the applicable law:
Which could get verrrrrry interesting if the Thugs are still busily contesting the Presidential results (i.e., throwing sand into the gears of the succession) as January 3 approaches. If the Democrats will have a majority in both Houses by then, the GOP might be desperate to dicker some sort of compromise in a lame-duck session, and if Nancy SMASH! holds the House Democrats together to block them, she would be in a perfect position to hold their feet to the fire.
Kay
@0.:
Challenges aren’t arbitrary though. They can’t just pronounce “I challenge the vote!” They know how many absentees they sent out and they know how many came back. If Biden is ahead 100k and there are 80k absentees not counted it isn’t going to change the result so they can’t just demand to hold it up.
It’s very fact intensive and rule bound. Their ordinary low quality legal work and bullshit is going to hit a wall and that wall is called “numbers”. Math. It’s no longer about perceptions. It’s addition and subtraction. Most of the scenarios that picture Trump successfully throwing the election into chaos are like “Trump challenges…..inevitable chaos!” That isn’t how it works and it won’t be how it works here. They will need a true basis for a challenge. One that fits with addition and subtraction.
If it were true that any losing candidate could just “challenge” results willy nilly some asshole would have come up with it well prior to these morons.
MattF
@WaterGirl: They’re on the margin. They can’t make up their fucking minds.
Kay
@0.:
The elections where conservatives have been able to either try to throw out votes or hold up calling the race have been REALLY close. That’s the condition precedent to a challenge. That matters. It’s the whole thing. So say, for example, that it’s really close in Arizona. They’re whining and suing and attempting to throw out votes. But other states are coming in and they’re not close. The math of that happening, the addition to Biden’s side and subtraction to Trumps (because Trump no longer has those electoral votes available) can and very well might make challenges moot. They can then litigate over Arizona for as long as the lawyers get paid. It doesn’t and won’t change the results of the whole race.
Omnes Omnibus
You know what else puts MN, WI, and PA in the Dem column? The polling in those states.
WaterGirl
@NotMax:
I read something last night, linked from some thread on BJ, that it was Trump’s administration that had them re-do the Presidential accommodations at Walter Reed – because of the pandemic.
Now I don’t know whether that is true or not. Do you know for a fact that those rooms pre-date the Trump administration?
Kay
@0.:
We know a lot about elections, especially in swingier states. That’s how they’re able to call them before the votes are counted. The votes that are out are not enough to change the result. These are not unknown numbers. They’ll have both of them. The votes they have counted and the possible votes for either candidate they have not counted. They have the real numbers. They now have a universe of possible votes and that won’t change no matter who gets more of them.
Chief Oshkosh
@Baud: Ask Pinochet’s ghost…
Kay
@Omnes Omnibus:
I think people are using it as a check on the polling. Since WI and PA and MI are at their expected place relative to Ohio that lends credibility to the polling. That’s based on a real thing- 2016. If Trump was up 5 in Ohio in ’16 that should have been an indication that MI and PA and WI were too close for comfort and there was some kind of error operating because it didn’t make any sense that OH was so far Right relative to those other states.
Kay
These reckless fucking assholes, I swear. The staff doesn’t have any choice. They have to wait on the low quality Trump hires or they get fired.
With the permission of the infected people (of course) I would like media to follow their health with the same attention and concern we were all ordered to show to Chris Christie. If we can wring our hands over the elite conservative ruling class who recklessly got infected at the SCOTUS cocktail party they insisted on having we can wring our hands over other people too.
Sunoma69
@Geminid: Any day with Trump as president is beautiful.
Another Scott
@Kay: Speaking of staff…
It sounds like the hundreds/thousands of people who work at the White House complex don’t know anything more than we do. It’s inexcusable.
Cheers,
Scott.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Is it my imagination or does Trump’s medical team all look like they are from central casting? I am sensing more fake doctors.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I thought the space guidelines were based on thinking that droplets were the issue. I thought now that they know the virus is airborne, then there are other issues to consider besides distance.
Like how well ventilated is the space, where are the vents, are they blowing on you, etc. I don’t believe that we know enough about that building to know whether that was safe or not.
Ruckus
@Ken:
After trump gets kicked to the curb as bad as it hopefully looks he is, what republican is going to even remember his name? They like winners, not whinny losers. We look and see their history, like in my lifetime the losers they’ve elected are stunningly bad and they don’t remember or acknowledge the history of any of them. They don’t learn from history, it’s what allows them to keep finding worse candidates every time they need a new one.
Ruckus
@Jinchi:
Who was president or lead suckup when the place was designed/built?
Ruckus
@Kay:
Planes have returned to the gate and disembarked people who refuse. Pisses off everyone else because it makes them late, miss connections, dinner, etc. But the shithead usually gets a standing boo from them.
James E Powell
@hueyplong:
Agree with your assessment, but I have no idea how it looks and sounds to SC voters. It is, after all, the original confederate state.
It got me wondering. Have any Democrats ever done as badly as Trump and Graham did this week? I couldn’t think of any.
James E Powell
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Same here. I’d never heard of him. Pond scum from the word go.
theturtlemoves
It likely goes without saying, based on the ‘nym I have chosen for myself, that I also highly recommend Small Gods.
smedley the uncertain
@Humanities Prof: Done
SiubhanDuinne
@James E Powell:
Because of my job, I started following him in 1994. And during his first two terms in the House, he was on the International Relations Committee, so we had a fair amount of interaction with his office. I never met him, but I’m pretty sure I set up meetings for my Consul General with Graham and his senior staffers in his SC state offices (the Canadian Embassy handled relations on the Hill).
Jinchi
Aha! That explains the chandelier. Who else would put such a useless decoration in an emergency health facility.
(Any word on whether the toilets are gold-plated?”)
Bill Arnold
@Patricia Kayden:
They were, and are, personally playing COVID-19 roulette.
They aren’t just fucking with Loki, they’re fucking with basic probability.
“the stochastic digraph for Russian roulette”
SiubhanDuinne
@SFAW:
Already downloaded to the Kindle app.
Another Scott
@James E Powell: There’s always a tweet…
Cheers,
Scott.
H-Bob
@Kay: A Justice Reveal Party caused Covid to spread like wildfire through the Republican elite, when a gender reveal party caused actual wildfire to spread through California!
WaterGirl
@H-Bob: Well done.