Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Glad to see john eastman going through some things.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

I’m just a talker, trying to find a channel!

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

When we show up, we win.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

Somebody needs to explain to DeSantis that nobody needs to do anything to make him look bad.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

That pie keeps getting more and more forks, reducing anyone’s chance of even a Perot.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

The willow is too close to the house.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

‘Museums aren’t America’s attic for its racist shit.’

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

If you are still in the GOP, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

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  3. 3.

    Lyrebird

    Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs…

    I’ve had two in mind to make and put on my (thus far barely used) zazzle store, and right now I’m disgusted with myself for not having followed through yet.

    Was behind at work, got half caught up, and am having trouble seeing the progress instead of just the everything else I need to do.

    Biden and Harris are awesome though.

    As is John’s neighbor.

  5. 5.

    Lyrebird

    PS Has Sir Mumphrey Pumphrey Lord Fartdaddy etc been heard from, or observed to be getting some relief and or support?   Not trying to intrude, trying to send some caring around.

  6. 6.

    TaMara (HFG)

    The absolute best. I have this one up.

    I Need to Up My Sign Game 1

    I just got my Biden-Harris sign from the campaign. I’m going to put it up on the day ballots are mailed out this week.

  7. 7.

    BretH

    Purely anecdotal but driving backroads between Charlottesville and James Madison’s Montpellier I saw early as many Biden/Harris signs as Trump/Pence. Even in the lower income areas.

  9. 9.

    PsiFighter37

    Sign enthusiasm don’t mean much, but I think there is way more enthusiasm (even if it is negative partisanship) in 2020. When I was up in Maine this summer (just across the border from Portsmouth, NH – so relatively liberal area), there were plenty of Biden signs, as well as Sara Gideon. Only one sign for Collins, and only one for Trump-Pence – at the end of a driveway far off the road, that no one would see while they were driving.

  10. 10.

    Chat Noir

    I absentee in person voted on Thursday (Missouri) and it felt SO great to vote Biden/Harris at the top of the ticket. Straight Dem the rest of the ballot, of course.

    To Missouri juicers, please vote NO on Amendment 3.

  13. 13.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I literally laughed out loud when I read this

    Todd Zwillich @toddzwillich · 40m
    In my convos with PA Republicans today, among the many many names in the mix for the open Senate seat: @DonaldJTrumpJr. He’s played a deep role in Trump campaign in PA, has installed many allies in county and state party positions.

  15. 15.

    RaflW

    Also amazing: I am watching parts of the Harrison-Graham debate from last night (on CSpan online – at my own pace, not clipped for me by others).
    The most striking thing is how much better the questions are by local, South Carolina television journalists. They put the presidential debates to shame — plural because I mean 2016, 2012 and back, as well as the recent mess.

    Jamie Harrison is also a very impressive candidate. I feel like my (and so many others’) donations are in excellent hands. It would be an upset that would be glorious, though I’m remaining very cautious in my hopes.

  18. 18.

    Suzanne

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: OMG I HOPE I GET TO VOTE AGAINST FREDO! Or Uday! Whichever one he is! What a dickhole.

    So on my street, there are a couple of Trump houses, but vastly more Biden houses. Spawn the Elder is living with his dad back in PHX, and they are living in a townhome complex that has a HOA. Not allowed any signs, but Spawn said their next door neighbor went to the craft store and made a MAGA wreath for the front door. LMAO.

  20. 20.

    A Ghost to Most

    My neighbor with the Trump and Gardner signs took down the Trump sign (or someone took it).

  23. 23.

    Ian

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Open senate seat?  They talking Toomey in 2022?  I hadn’t heard that dickweasal was leaving.  Strange how one of the most conservative senators in 2010 is now probably among the most liberal of the republicans.  I won’t miss him go, especially if the Penn Dems can get their act together and take the seat, but I had no idea he was only in it for two terms.

  25. 25.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    In the first speech Biden delivered after the news broke that Trump had contracted COVID, he showed more class and dignity than Trump has shown in his entire life.  Trump does not possess a single atom of gravitas. He’s a 100% pure, unadulterated grade A thug. I hope the staffs of the NY Attorney General and Manhattan District Attorney are burning the midnight oil in order to build an airtight case against Trump that will lead to his conviction and send him to prison.

  30. 30.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Morzer: That thought also crossed my mind when I got an alert on the Ring app that someone’s Trump signs had been stolen*, the campaign does need the cash.

    *My favorite response was “You should have built a big beautiful wall to protect your signs.”

  31. 31.

    Immanentize

    I have no idea who to @ —

    But what is up with the prop Docs in the press conferences. Are they really Doctors? If so, why are they standing out there instead of working. They are not allowed to say anything. Pretty white group too which is not really the norm in any hospital attendings (although Trump may have rules). Also, a couple of them were wearing dangerously ill fitting scrubs, particularly the only POC who was left further apart and more distanced than the others. I wouldn’t think these things normally, but why are they there?

    Are the Prop Docs WH staffers?

  32. 32.

    craigie

    My favorite sign so far says:

    Alexa, please change the President.

    I laugh every time I see it.

  33. 33.

    trollhattan

    Sign is great, being up in WV makes it 5X as great.

    Have yet to spot anything that tops a bumper sticker I saw a few weeks back

    “Biden-Harris
    C’mon Man”
    ?

  37. 37.

    Betty Cracker

    Did any of y’all watch Trump’s medical team update this afternoon? Conley basically admitted he was lying yesterday because they were trying to be “upbeat.” I don’t give a rat’s ass about Trump’s health. He can choke out on a ventilator for all I care; I’ve had a bottle of bubbly on ice for nearly four years waiting for his demise or defeat, and I don’t particularly care which comes first.

    But I do care about the competence and integrity of the medical professionals looking after other patients at Walter Reed. I do care about the credibility of future presidents’ medical teams, and the liars and cranks revealed themselves under Trump. Looks like we’ll have to add another area of the government that needs to be de-Trumpified to the list.

  41. 41.

    Mary G

    @Immanentize: I was wondering that too. Did they call in extra personnel to treat the regular patients or are they just ignoring them? Why do they all stand the same way, hands clasped over their naughty bits? Why do the two women and the Black man have to stand in back?

  42. 42.

    MomSense

    @Immanentize:&nbs;

    I wondered the same thing and then a small part of me thought I’d lost the plot. Now that you wondered the same thing, I feel better about thinking they hired some extras to play doctors for the presser.

  43. 43.

    RaflW

    @Wyatt Salamanca: Is Toomey actually planning to quit after this election because the GOP is going to be savagely trashed? I bet he’s already looking for a cush sinecure. Why else does one announce a 2022 retirement before the 2020 election??

    (Looming scandal comes to mind as a ‘why else’)

  45. 45.

    dww44

    @Immanentize:  I’ve been wondering the same things and I hope someone here provides some answers. And, Conley is not an MD he’s an OD, right? What sort of credibility does that give him?

  46. 46.

    BR

    Has Biden been tested again today, and have they reported the result? Should be tested daily and the silence is worrying.

  47. 47.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    @Betty Cracker: 

    Dana Bash summed up the presser perfectly when she described it as a “briefing from Baghdad Bob.”

    I don’t want Trump to die until he’s been convicted for one or more of his many crimes.

  50. 50.

    BR

    @dww44:

    MD vs OD these days isn’t a big deal. What matters more is he was hand picked by the previous dude (who was an MD) whose judgement was…questionable.

  51. 51.

    RaflW

    @Mary G: “Why do the two women and the Black man have to stand in back?”

    The campaign would have to pay these crisis actors more if they were in the front row? (Just trying to think like a wingnut, fyi).

  53. 53.

    dr. bloor

    @Betty Cracker:  Medical professionals have been lying about POTUS health forever. Someone had a great tweet today re: what FDR’s docs had to say about him a few months before he croaked. They were not exactly…forthright about his health.

  55. 55.

    RaflW

    @dww44: He’s an osteopath and comes out of the navy, so I don’t think he’s a quack. Does it mean he’s qualified in virology, etc? Not by itself, no.

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @BR: or just wait till there’s news, you know how this place works, as soon as there’s news, seven people will post it

  57. 57.

    Baud

    @BR:

    Joe Biden will be tested more frequently for Covid-19 and intends to move forward with in-person campaigning, following news of President Donald Trumpand several individuals in his orbit testing positive, sources tell CNN.
    The Democratic nominee will receive a test each time he travels, a source familiar with the Democratic nominee’s testing said.
    His campaign said Saturday that it would disclose the results of every test Biden takes.

  58. 58.

    germy

    Trump has been watching and critiquing coverage of his hospitalization and has been agitated at what he claims are exaggerated descriptions of his condition.

    Trump seemed particularly upset when he saw a quote that he was displaying “concerning” symptoms. https://t.co/s8bNNXsxxY

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 4, 2020

  60. 60.

    germy

    Since Trump wasn’t a “warrior” in Vietnam along with all the “suckers” and “losers” who fought and sacrificed there, the idea that he’s suddenly a “warrior” instead of a cocky, careless fool for contracting Covid-19 is just laughable. pic.twitter.com/DvQj68MSIV

    — George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) October 4, 2020

  61. 61.

    Barbara

    @dww44: My niece graduated from osteopathic medical school, but did all of her training in “regular” hospitals and practices alongside MDs as a pediatrician. More likely to practice as family practitioners and non-specialists, and unlikely to be hired by high powered AMCs, but basically regular docs.  I don’t understand why WR doesn’t have an infectious disease specialist answering questions, other than, they might find it harder to control them. Conley is Trump’s personal physician but unlikely to be in charge of his care in this setting.

  62. 62.

    germy

    Breaking WSJ: Trump didn’t disclose a positive result from a rapid COVID test on Thursday while awaiting the findings from a more thorough coronavirus screening, according to people familiar with the matter. https://t.co/WRbmZsD11Y

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 4, 2020

  64. 64.

    germy

    A steroid treatment prescribed to Pres. Trump on Saturday, dexamethasone, has shown to be beneficial in those with severe Covid-19 because it can stop the immune system from going into overdrive. But it's not recommended for more mild cases of the disease. https://t.co/iOPRtWueYM— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 4, 2020

  67. 67.

    Yutsano

    @dww44:  My primary doc is an OD. It’s a totally legitimate medical degree, it just uses a different education path. There is nothing wrong there. The constant gaslighting and downright lying is the problem.

  71. 71.

    germy

    @Wyatt Salamanca:

    He is a sociopath.  Like his mother and father, and most likely hi sgrandparents.

    That he rose to the highest office in the land is a fact historians will be arguing about for centuries.

  72. 72.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    @Baud:

    Biden and his team are handling this thing pitch perfect while Trump and his team are stumbling, bumbling, and flailing like first class dunces.

  73. 73.

    Betty Cracker

    @germy: It’s becoming clear that the Trump admin wanted to hide the whole thing. They got busted when the Hope Hicks test was leaked to a reporter and Trump got symptomatic. Otherwise, they’d still be holding super-spreader events.

  75. 75.

    trollhattan

    @Betty Cracker:

    Debate day+14 is his potential incubation period from that particular viralfest. But I expect any politician on the stump needs at least routine testing, just because they’re out and about and in Biden’s case, well past 70.

  81. 81.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @sanjeevs: somebody made a weekend at Bernie’s mock-up with McConnell and McCarthy, it should probably be Jared and Mnuchin

  82. 82.

    germy

    @Betty Cracker:

    Here’s how conservatives are spinning it:

    I’m at the gym and the CNN is on. There’s a segment about a “superspreader event” that Trump and a bunch of other people visited, got infected, and a couple of them got runny noses.
    That people would have so little self-respect that they don’t immediately turn off the TV the second they hear the words “superspreader event” is something I’ll never comprehend.

  83. 83.

    Kent

    @Wyatt Salamanca:Biden and his team are handling this thing pitch perfect while Trump and his team are stumbling, bumbling, and flailing like first class dunces.

    The Biden campaign pulled down their negative ads and still had endless amounts of good positive messaging to put forward.

    The Trump campaign looked in their basket of deplorable ads and found that if they pulled down the negative stuff they had nothing left.  Zero positive messages, only fear and lies.  Not even a single Reaganesque “morning in America” type ad.  Not one.

  84. 84.

    sanjeevs

    @Baud: Wilson said ‘personnel’ had suggested Pence not travel.

    The other interesting thing he says is Pence and Trump used different podiums when they spoke last Monday. They normally share.

  85. 85.

    Aleta

    @Betty Cracker: On Saturday,  how many doctors did they call away from their work just to come outside and stand behind the ones who delivered (vague) information?  Who decided they all needed to come out?   Somebody may have thought the display would ‘build confidence’ and ‘keep spirits up,’  but it reminded me of T’s other arrays — generals, covid ‘experts’ — displayed to make himself look strong and suppress doubt.

  86. 86.

    Kent

    @sanjeevs:Rick Wilson is saying Jared is in control of the Whitehouse and Pence is being told he has to travel to the debate

    Pence going to the debate is their Hail Mary.  It’s all that they have left to change the subject from the Trump Covid Death Watch.

    Imagine that, he is their Hail Mary.  He just needs to go “own” Kamala Harris on live TV.

  87. 87.

    Baud

    Also too, why does Pence have so little self respect? It’s too late for him to be tossed off the ticket, so that’s sword is no longer hanging over him.

  88. 88.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Peale: Dan Scavino had a tweet yesterday saying that if he was negative this AM he was going to go to WR and  start working again for Donnie. Scavino was around Hicks, Luna and Donnie. This mofo is going to go to WR where there are sick people and their loved ones  and possibly infect them with his possibly asymptomatic infectious  ass. I have no words for the selfishness of these people and why is WR allowing this?

  90. 90.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @germy:

    NEW: President Trump asked at least one adviser not to disclose results of their own positive test.

    “their”…. is there anyone besides Hicks in the current WH cluster who would be called “an adviser”? Kellyanne? I think Hicks is talking. Somebody said on MSNBC the other day that she’s tired of being blamed as the source of this outbreak

  94. 94.

    Kent

    @RaflW:

    @Wyatt Salamanca: Is Toomey actually planning to quit after this election because the GOP is going to be savagely trashed? I bet he’s already looking for a cush sinecure. Why else does one announce a 2022 retirement before the 2020 election??

    (Looming scandal comes to mind as a ‘why else’)

    Fundraising.  If he was going to be a serious candidate for 2022 in a swing state like PA he basically needs to be building his war chest 24/7 starting now.  If you don’t do that, people start to notice really quickly.

    He probably doesn’t want to spend the next 2 years on the rubber chicken conservative circuit.  I mean…who would?

  95. 95.

    germy

    Pence and Harris square off at Kingsbury Hall on the campus of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. Students from the University of Utah will make up the live audience at the debate, according to the school. The number of students who will be in attendance is unknown at this time.

  98. 98.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Betty Cracker: Jennifer Jacobs of Bloomberg should get some kind of journo award from the WHCA for that . Orange Dbag is probably going to say it was a big Mike Bloomberg conspiracy story and make this reporter’s life hell.

  99. 99.

    Betty Cracker

    Y’all. Trump is riding around in a motorcade to wave at the cultists who’ve been screaming outside of Walter Reed. How many innocent people (drivers, Secret Service, medical staff, etc.) are put at risk, how many taxpayer resources are wasted on this idiotic stunt?

  100. 100.

    piratedan

    seeing that Trump has left the hospital per CNN… my guess is that they couldn’t control the message to back to the WH they go where they can manipulate the information released sans any interference…

  101. 101.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    a new video, just a few minutes old, he claims to be “meeting” veterans and first responders, by implication at Walter Reed, and he’s going to make an appearance with his howler monkeys outside the hospital

    Tom Nichols@RadioFreeTom ·2m
    Aside from being reckless and dangerous, this 73 seconds is also a reminder of how unbelievably stupid he is.

    and it’s already happened, he had himself driven by in an SUV

  106. 106.

    Morzer

    @Kent:  IIRC Mike Bloomberg had a lot to do with getting “centrist problem solver” Toomey elected in the first place. Might be he’s cut off the funds and told Trumper Toomey that they’re done.

  108. 108.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Wait, Trump’s been released from WR and is back at (or heading back to) the WH? What is going on?

  110. 110.

    Betty Cracker

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think they’re just driving him around in front of the cultists who’ve been screaming in front of the hospital. I don’t think he’s been discharged, but who knows?

  111. 111.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’m not a hundred percent sure, but I think they just took him out for a ride (in an enclosed space with people who are sworn to always protect his life) so his supporters could tell themselves he’s ‘tough’, ‘tougher’ than the virus

  112. 112.

    Morzer

    @Betty Cracker: Worth remembering that Proud Boys leader Gavin McInnis went down to scream and howl outside WR. Also, if Trump were anything like recovered, he’d be walking among his grateful deadheads and laying his short little fingers on them.

  116. 116.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Mary G: At the 1st press conference when they all came out identically dressed in their crisp white coats and carefully arrayed themselves behind Trump’s new Doctor Feelgood, I thought the whole thing looked stage managed. I think we can all guess by who/whom?

    BTW, CNN reporting that Trump payed a surprise visit to his cultists outside Walter Reed. The photo I saw showed him in a car and wearing a mask. His current whereabouts- unknown.

  120. 120.

    Mary G

    @Another Scott: Kevin Drum takes it to keep his cancer in check and just hates it, he calls it “the evil dex” and has tried to get off it, but then his bad numbers go up and he has to stay on it. He doesn’t sleep at all the nights he takes it.

    ETA: Drum just wrote a note on it.

    As regular readers know, I take dexamethasone—aka the Evil Dex—twice a week as part of my treatment for multiple myeloma. The side effects are different for everyone, but they run the gamut from bad to hideous. In my case, the worst part is that it messes with my sleep pretty badly, but there are a few other bad side effects too. On the positive side, it keeps me alive, so there’s that.

    Given my extensive experience with dex, I’ve gotten a lot of queries about why President Trump’s doctors would give him such a terrible drug unless he was in seriously poor health. The answer is simple: in general, the bad effects of dex only show up after you’ve taken it for a few days or weeks at least. If you take it only once or twice, it reduces inflammation like any good corticosteroid but most likely doesn’t have any seriously ill effects.

    So that’s that. Giving Trump a dose or two of dex is a pretty easy decision: it’s helpful for people with temporary breathing problems and is generally well tolerated in short courses. It might mean that Trump’s condition is worse than we’ve been told, but more likely it doesn’t mean anything special. Who knows? Maybe Trump heard about it on Fox News and demanded some—although there’s never any telling for sure with this crowd since they lie about everything.

  122. 122.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Baud:

    I hope the people in Trump’s car are his supporters, because I hate to think innocent people are being put at risk.

    I doubt the Secret Service agents in the car are thrilled about being in a small enclosed space with the Superspreader in Chief activating shedding virus.

  125. 125.

    Ken

    @Mary G: WR is a military hospital and he is their Commander-in-Chief. They’ll say whatever he tells them to say while on active duty.

    I thought the ship’s doctor could override the captain on medical issues.  Maybe that was just Star Trek.  But I would expect the doctors to at least tell the truth, and keep their mouths shut if they couldn’t.

  126. 126.

    trnc

    @dr. bloor: Medical professionals have been lying about POTUS health forever. Someone had a great tweet today re: what FDR’s docs had to say about him a few months before he croaked. They were not exactly…forthright about his health.

    Other countries didn’t have the intelligence and spy apparatus they have today. I suspect China and Russia have a better idea of DT’s condition than we do.

  127. 127.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Betty Cracker:

    I had been taking a nap, woke up and story was breaking and someone on either CNN or MSNBC said (or speculated) that he had been released. Evidently inaccurate as they are now saying he’s back in the Presidential-complete-with-chandelier-Suite at Walter Reed.

    Every single thing gets weirder and more alarming with each minute that passes.

  128. 128.

    Tony Jay

    They’re driving his clog-lunged carcass back to the White House tonight? Despite the whole ‘Covid bad for obese old bastards’ thing? Really? I guess that “fucking plague-rat loser fuck” dig really hit a’twixt the netherglobes.

    Yer welcome, America.

  131. 131.

    cain

    @Mary G:

    That sounds more plausible, but others were saying (Carl Bergstrom) who said taking such a medication is a grave prognosis. But if I suppose if the side effects only show up after a few days – taking a few doses might be ok.

    But usually they don’t do that for mild cases, right? So I would assume that this case is more advanced.

  132. 132.

    martha

    Part of the reason he is doing this insane drive-by is that stock futures trading begins at 6:00 p.m. EDT. He thinks it will help.

  133. 133.

    Another Scott

    @Mary G: Muahaahaahhhaaa!!

    :-)

    Seriously, Drum seems to have a gene for being contrarian, but maybe he’s right in this case (that Donnie  taking The Evil Dex for a day or two isn’t necessarily unusual).

    Maybe someday we’ll know for sure.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  134. 134.

    Ken

    @trnc: I suspect China and Russia have a better idea of DT’s condition than we do.

    Has anyone thought of just asking them?  “Da, tovarishch, here is what we have been hearing from Trump’s unsecured phone, using microphone exploit published over six years ago.”

  135. 135.

    zhena gogolia

    Since my neighbor across the (very narrow) street put up his TRUMP 2020 KEEP AMERICA GREAT! sign, I’ve decided I’m going to add something to my Biden-Harris sign with a sharpie: ‘BIDEN-HARRIS 2020 DRAG AMERICA BACK TO SOME SEMBLANCE OF A FUNCTIONING COUNTRY AGAIN!

  136. 136.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Another Scott:

    This seems like a good time to point out that dexamethasone can cause agitation, paranoia, mania and even psychosis. For real.

    I guess it’s obligatory to ask: How can they tell?

  138. 138.

    The Thin Black Duke

    Thankfully, we’ll finally be able to change the channel of this gawdawful reality TV show in November.

  141. 141.

    Mike in NC

    In 1982 or 83 I went sailing with friends who had a boat at their summer cottage near Brunswick, Maine. Got a pretty nasty sunburn after a few hours out on the water, so the next day I went to the base clinic at NAS Brunswick where I waited about an hour to see a doctor. His diagnosis was “I recommend you stay out of the sun”.

  142. 142.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    so is this the second time in a month (four weeks) that trump has endangered people’s lives for a photo op?

  145. 145.

    lamh36

    SON OF A BITCH! THIS MOFO. HE WAS NOT RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL? Just released for this bullshit “ride about” and right back to his hospital suite!!!!!

    WTF ARE YOU DOING WALTER REED HOSPITAL!!! And I guess forget the damn secret service folks and their health!

    @GeoffRBennett

    WH spox Judd Deere says of Trump’s whereabouts: “President Trump took a short, last-minute motorcade ride to wave to his supporters outside and has now returned to the Presidential Suite inside Walter Reed.” The WH pool was given no advance notice of Trump’s drive-by.

    https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1312870632900751362?s=20

  146. 146.

    Another Scott

    This will resonate with parents who had to drive their baby around in the car at night so the little eating and pooping machine would go the fuck to sleep and stop crying. https://t.co/9ZeqhZ6F3L

    — TBogg (@tbogg) October 4, 2020

    Includes 0:12 video clip from CNN.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  149. 149.

    Betty Cracker

    Before this evening’s joy ride, Trump posted a video. Daniel Dale reports that Trump says the following: “It’s been a very interesting journey. I learned a lot about Covid. I learned it by really going to school. This is the REAL school. This isn’t the ‘let’s read the book’ school. And I get it. And I understand it. And it’s a very interesting thing.”

    JFC.

  153. 153.

    currants

    This morning I saw “One day, it’s like a miracle, he just disappears” with “Vote Biden” at the bottom

  154. 154.

    Eljai

    I dunno, the guy in the SUV was wearing a mask.  How do we know it isn’t trump’s body double?  I mean, he’s already done everything else he accused Hillary of doing.

  155. 155.

    schrodingers_cat

    Are the doctors who are also naval officers in the Walter Reed such pushovers? Even a banana republic has better standards than  this. This is North Korea or Soviet level sycophancy

  157. 157.

    James E Powell

    @Kent:

    I’m watching football and I’ve seen a Trump ad several times. It’s a “Trump is the best president for black people” ad and I wondering, why are they wasting their money on this? Who do they think they are persuading with this?

  158. 158.

    Aleta

    @Betty Cracker: And announced on twitter that he was about to go out and say hello to his supporters.  Putting agents and driver at risk two ways … and putting  the crowd at  risk if someone were inclined to violence.

    (The video is on his tw feed.)

  159. 159.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    @lamh36:

    Trump’s bed wetting staffers are just trying to mollify our toddler-in-chief.

    Maybe tomorrow they’ll bring a Mac truck to the Walter Reed parking lot and let Trump pretend to drive it.

  160. 160.

    pat

    I don’t get it.  Where are the nurses and doctors in PPE?

    How can he get away with this? Will they have to disinfect the limousine, the “office” where he “signed” that blank sheet of paper?

    WTF?

  162. 162.

    Crashman06

    Do you really pull a stunt like this if it looks like he can be discharged tomorrow? Why not just make a big scene tomorrow about him walking out of the hospital like a conquering hero? This does not make sense.

  166. 166.

    Sab

    I want to know what that little animal statue is next to the front door of Cole’s across the street neighbor.

  169. 169.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    @Betty Cracker:

    “It’s been a very interesting journey. I learned a lot about Covid. I learned it by really going to school. This is the REAL school. This isn’t the ‘let’s read the book’ school. And I get it. And I understand it. And it’s a very interesting thing.”

    Wow, it sounds like Trump has had a Joycean epiphany.

  170. 170.

    PPCLI

    @Morzer: From an attending at Walter Reed:

    That Presidential SUV is not only bulletproof, but hermetically sealed against chemical attack. The risk of COVID19 transmission inside is as high as it gets outside of medical procedures. The irresponsibility is astounding. My thoughts are with the Secret Service forced to play.

    ….

    Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days. They might get sick. They may die. For political theater. Commanded by Trump to put their lives at risk for theater. This is insanity.

  172. 172.

    Another Scott

    @Crashman06: Others have pointed out that the stock market futures trading for Monday starts up at 9 PM ET.  All he cares about is the markets, and he thinks people who trade trillions of dollars worth of stuff every day are fooled by stupid photo-ops like this.

    It’s pathetic, and maddening.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  174. 174.

    sdhays

    @Eljai: I dunno, the guy in the SUV was wearing a mask.

    Of course he’s wearing a mask. He wouldn’t want to accidentally give the President COVID-19.

  175. 175.

    Geminid

     

     

    @Betty Cracker: trump knows he is in a bad fix politically, and may hope his “fight with Covid” can be an opportunity to turn his fortunes around. He’ll grasp any straw at this point. Some of the people around him may know better, but will let him believe it if only because he’s easier to handle that way. And he’ll love watching it on TV. The idiot.

  176. 176.

    Spanky

    @Sloane Ranger:

    BTW, CNN reporting that Trump payed a surprise visit to his cultists outside Walter Reed. The photo I saw showed him in a car and wearing a mask. His current whereabouts- unknown.

    And of course they’re too modest tell the press of the hours he’s spent visiting with the troops in there.

  177. 177.

    Sab

    @Another Scott: My 96 year old dad in a nursing home desperately wants a car ride. He hasn’t had one since March, thanks to Trump’s peoples’ inept Covid response.

  178. 178.

    Crashman06

    @Another Scott: I know the howler monkeys will love this but by god this is really a lame photo op. Just unbelievable lame. This is a Veep joke. It’d be funny if the circumstances weren’t so serious.

  179. 179.

    Marcopolo

    @Kent:   The Toomey take I heard and think makes sense is he is going to vote to confirm Barrett & sees the writing on the wall that this vote will make him radioactive in PA elective politics.  And, hell, he’ll just enter the lobbying profession or join a board or seven and wind up cashing in financially.

    Remember, the smart committed Rs realize that getting her vote on the SC for the next ~3 + decades is a much more influential action than winning the Presidency in Nov. or losing a few Senate seats.

    You know, unless the Ds do go ahead and add 4 seats to the SC.

  180. 180.

    Baud

    @Geminid:

    Trump knows he is in a bad fix politically, and may hope his “fight with Covid” can be an opportunity to turn his fortunes around

    It might, if he could say this experience has opened his eyes about COVID and he’s going to start doing things differently. But he can’t.

  181. 181.

    J R in WV

    @germy:

    He is a sociopath. Like his mother and father, and most likely his grandparents.

    That he rose to STOLE the highest office in the land is a fact historians will be arguing about for centuries.

    Fixed that for you… No offense intended! First two sentences appear to be factual~!~

  182. 182.

    japa21

    @Sab: When I heard Mark Meadows say he has seen the President several times, all I could think of was all those people who were never allowed to visit their relatives in the hospital to say good-bye.

  183. 183.

    LuciaMia

    I want to know what that little animal statue is next to the front door of Cole’s across the street neighbor.

    An albino raccoon?

  184. 184.

    Another Scott

    @Spanky: Now that you mention it, Donnie mentioned the bigly great MAGA treatment he was getting from the bigly great MAGA doctors at the bigly great WR hospital in his 4 minute campaign speech yesterday.  He even mentioned the 3rd Lady near the end.

    But I don’t recall him mentioning the looooser troops, sailors, and airmen there.

    Nope, he didn’t.  Of course. (Needy Amin will never change.)

    Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  185. 185.

    Morzer

    @Marcopolo: I have occasionally wondered whether the Dems plan to bring up big, bold, popular legislation that the GOP will hate, wait for SCOTUS to wreck it and then run against SCOTUS and the GOP in the 2022 midterms before adding 4/6/8 justices to the court because “it’s what the voters demand”.

  187. 187.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Aleta: If you are admitted to a hospital can you come and go as you please? COVID patients in hospitals have died alone without their family being able to visit them.

    The rules are for small people not the Tangerine tyrant?

  189. 189.

    Another Scott

    @Morzer: I hope they don’t do that.  The country cannot tolerate another 4+ years of death-by-1000-cuts actions in the courts and interminable appeals and so forth.

    The majority needs to be able to pass its agenda and suffer the consequences with the voters if they get it wrong.

    11-dimenstional chess is not a real thing.

    My $0.02.

    [eta.] – To try to be clearer – they’ve got more than enough reasons to expand and reform the SCOTUS and the other courts.  They should write legislation to do that and work on hearings starting in January.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  192. 192.

    Morzer

    https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1312880808127066115

    Until the SUV ride, I was urging consideration of Section 3 of the 25th Amendment. Now, if they care about the nation, the Vice President and Cabinet need to consider Section 4. @BillKristol

    I wonder just how many people will be enraged by cretinous stunts like the Plague SUV parade.  I would imagine that it appeals to the Trump cultists, but royally pisses off everyone else. Seems like a good way to lose votes that Trump simply can’t afford at this point.

  193. 193.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter· 37m
    Let me explain a hard truth… I do not accept the premise that @realDonaldTrump put his Secret Service detail in danger, but even if he did it’s their job to accept risk to do their job when he decides it’s important for us to see our POTUS is OK.

    I guess their lives aren’t blue enough, or something

  195. 195.

    sdhays

    @Morzer: I think that’s more likely than them expanding the court right out of the gate. But the only way they get there is to kill the filibuster, because while it might be possible for them to get to 60 in this election, it’s extremely unlikely.

  197. 197.

    Aleta

    He wants to sign a deal for a TV show before the election, since he’s pretty sure he’ll lose.   Prolonged illness will weaken his image and the offers unless he can turn the narrative into myth:  badass superpower man rises again.

  198. 198.

    Morzer

    @Another Scott: I agree with you, but I could see the Dems trying to be much cleverer than they really are. I’d like to see SCOTUS expanded, DC and Puerto Rico given statehood and a huge legislative program rammed down the GOP’s throat. Plus, of course, a strip-off-the-bark public investigation of Trump, his enablers, GOP corruption and ties to Russia/MBS etc etc.

  201. 201.

    Matt McIrvin

    Twitter now buzzing that that must have been a fake Trump, some sort of body double, because the SUV wasn’t the “Beast” presidential limo. Presumably these are the people who think his whole illness is a fraud and everyone at Walter Reed is playing along. I think they’re underestimating the stupidity of Trump.

  202. 202.

    Baud

    @Morzer:

    DC statehood is almost a certainty if we get the Senate.  Some conservative group will challenge it, and maybe that’s the trigger for expanding the court.

  205. 205.

    Another Scott

    @PPCLI: I had the same thought, given he (and they) lie about everything.

    And it forced me to look up “quarantine vs isolation” again.  Quarantine is separation when one has been exposed; isolation is when one is infected.

    Donnie having his parade is pretty much anti-isolation.

    Grrr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  217. 217.

    sdhays

    @Morzer: I think they should at least kill the filibuster (60-vote cloture rule) and admit DC and PR (assuming that’s what the people of PR decide). I’d love to see them expand the Court, but I still can’t imagine them doing that. I think still too many of the Democrats are going to be reticent to go to war over the Court.

    But the Republicans will bring the war to them anyway. All of the deep red states are going to be tripping over themselves to be the one to overturn Roe v. Wade. It’s hard to imagine a 6-3 court upholding it. If they are able to do that before the 2022 mid-term elections, the Democrats could very well end up with a super-majority in the Senate (although, likely not one that could impeach any “Justices”) and would possibly have enough of a mandate to have the backbone to transform the Court.

  220. 220.

    TS (the original)

    And so much for everyone near trump wearing PPE.  The man & his “doctors” have no idea what they do.

    In my part of the world, a person with covid-19 leaving a hospital or the place where they are isolated receive large fines. In one case jail because the guy would not stop going out

    Edit: I just see from the above the SS are wearing PPE. This is going from the sublime to the ridiculous and beyond

  222. 222.

    J R in WV

    @schrodingers_cat:

    If you are admitted to a hospital can you come and go as you please? COVID patients in hospitals have died alone without their family being able to visit them.

    The rules are for small people not the Tangerine tyrant?

    It is a military hospital, and as unbelievable as it is, Trump is the commander in chief. So yes, he can come and go as he pleases. As horrible as that is.

    Unless the cabinet and or VP Dense relieve him of his powers… Hahaha

  223. 223.

    catclub

    @Baud: I always thought that new states had to be approved by a majority or super majority of other states. I guess that is why I am not the constitutional scholar.

  225. 225.

    LuciaMia

    @Matt McIrvin: For it all to be a fraud it would have to involve a huge number of doctors, nurses, other medical and support staff to be in on it. Not tenable.

  229. 229.

    PPCLI

    Um…. Has the Biden campaign released the results of the Covid test he was supposed to take today?

    I am starting to worry.

  230. 230.

    LuciaMia

     So yes, he can come and go as he pleases. As horrible as that is.

    Maybe he used tear gas to clear the way.

  232. 232.

    Aleta

    @schrodingers_cat: Forgive me if you know all this.  Your question makes me think out loud.  For non-Covid,  I believe a patient can leave by signing themselves out “against Drs orders” (so the hospital isn’t held liable).  But if they do that, the Dr. may refuse to treat the patient again. To be readmitted to the hospital, it depends on their policies I guess.

    The hospital can prevent them from leaving if a judge determines that the patient is a risk to others or self, and signs an order,  but that’s not an easy process.  Without an order, a hospital / Dr. will  put a lot of pressure on a patient or their family to stay.  To go in and out,  the hospital and Dr. need to permit it as you say, but if they don’t agree their only recourse is  to refuse to let them in again.

    You have a point since Covid risks harming others.   I guess it depends on whether a state or city has managed to get Covid  classified as a danger in that way?  Given Republican legislators’ resistance to “restricting citizen’s movement” (as they like to call it) for even guidelines for Covid,  now I’m wondering about hospital policies.

  233. 233.

    trnc

    @Another Scott: Swinging back to wondering if he really doesn’t have it and is feeding information about dire condition. Is it really possible that he’s being administered drugs used only in severe conditions and is able to be out waving to people from a car?

  238. 238.

    Another Scott

    @trnc: William of Ockham says yes, he has it.  Too many people around him have it, he and they never took sufficient precautions, and he forbade them from doing so.

    He’s a narcissist.  He wouldn’t admit human weakness unless forced to do so – and even in his 4 minute WR commercial tried to spin it as a great victory.

    I think I’ll be back soon, and I look forward to finishing up the campaign the way it was started, and the way we’ve been doing, and the kind of numbers that we’ve been doing. We’ve been so proud of it, but this was something that happened, and it’s happened to millions of people all over the world, and I’m fighting for them. Not just in the US. I’m fighting for them all over the world.

    We’re going to beat this coronavirus, or whatever you want to call it, and we’re going to beat it soundly. So many things have happened. If you look at the therapeutics, which I’m taking right now, some of them, and others are coming out soon that are looking like, frankly, they’re miracles, if you want to know the truth. They’re miracles. People criticize me when I say that, but we have things happening that look like they’re miracles coming down from God, so I just want to tell you that I’m starting to feel good. You don’t know over the next period of a few days, I guess that’s the real test, so we’ll be seeing what happens over those next couple of days. I just want to be so thankful for all of the support I’ve seen, whether it’s on television, or reading about it. I most of all appreciate what’s been said by the American people, by almost a bipartisan consensus of American people. It’s a beautiful thing to see, and I very much appreciate it, and I won’t forget it. I promise you that.

    Plus, he didn’t have his orange pancake makeup on. You know something would have to be very wrong for him not to have that on.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  240. 240.

    Ruckus

    @Betty Cracker:

    If 35% of the population is for trump, every part of government is going to have to be investigated to insure that they are not fucking things up in a trump tantrum effort. I sure as hell wouldn’t put it past any of them.

  241. 241.

    MuckJagger

    Wait a sec — there are TWO Democrats in West Virginia living across the street from each other?

  242. 242.

    Ruckus

    @MuckJagger:

    There are democrats everywhere. In some places they are outnumbered. And then there are places like CA where dems way outnumber repubs. But there are still a lot of them and yes they are as stupid as they are everywhere else.

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