Early Voting starts later this week for These States:
Kentucky: Oct 13
Tennessee: Oct 14 – 29
Massachusetts: Oct 17
Nevada: October 17 – 30
North Carolina: Oct 15 – 31
Rhode Island: Oct 14
Texas early voting: Oct 13 – Oct 30
Early Voting Has Already Started!
Montana – October 2 to October 30 at county Board of Election offices
Ohio starts on October 6
*California: All counties offer in-person early voting, but they vary by dates and times. They can start on October 5th and all must have early in-person voting starting at least 4 days before Election Day.
Alaska: Oct 19
Colorado: Oct 19
Wisconsin: Oct 20
New York: Oct 24 – Nov 1
West Virginia: Oct 21 – Oct 31
Florida early voting: October 24 – 31 (Oct 19 in some places!)
* Voting absentee in person (a bit of an oxymoron) started on September 9 in Alabama
NO EARLY VOTING
Missouri does not offer an early voting period. If you will be unable to vote in person on Election Day, you can request an absentee ballot/mail-in ballot by mail or by visiting your local election office – beginning on Sept 22.
Mississippi does not offer early voting. In Mississippi, the only “early” votes are absentee ballots that are available beginning 45 days before an election, but only for specific excused reasons including the voters knowing that they’ll be out of their home county on Election Day or disability or voters past age 65. College students and members of the armed forces can often vote absentee ballots.
Always check your state and county websites for specific information about voting times and voting locations.
Remember, if you vote – in person or drop it off or put it in the mail – stop by and post a comment in the I Voted post. It’s in the sidebar on computers and in the hamburger menu on mobile.
If you know the first date for early voting, and your state isn’t on one of these lists yet, please let me know in the comments.
And Maryland. I voted last week.
edit: not in person.
Looking forward to hearing from CA AG Alex Padilla on the GOP fake ballot drop off box fuckery today. Best wishes to all early voting Jackals who’ve planned for safe voting options. Let’s turn this mother out!
I got my ballot in the mail on Saturday after requesting it using the nifty new feature on the Massachusetts Registration website. I’m very excited to turn it in this weekend, or early next week.
Added, thank you!
Added, and then removed, because voting in Maryland does not start until Oct 26.
What’s that about? I must have missed it.
I think JPL voted in GA this morning. I’m waiting until tomorrow or Wednesday — and judging by the photos of loooong lines I’ve seen, I think I made the right decision. But it’s heartwarming to see so many people, and I just hope the majority of them are voting to Turn Georgia Blue.
I voted yesterday in the Utah elections. Nobody I voted for is going to win, but what the hell.
There was some discussion about it in the morning open thread. Orange County, I believe, and a couple of other places. By rights, this should turn into a huge own goal for CA Republicans.
@WaterGirl: They weren’t shy about advertising it. They are committing voter fraud in order to point out how “easy” it would be. Felony charges are in order. I am sure it won’t be hard to identify at least a few individuals.
Lots of photos on Twitter of the lines for early voting in GA today.
Kansas mails out ballots this Wednesday the 14th. Important Senate seat is possible.
TS (the original)
There was at least one who had his photo on twitter advertising the boxes. He deleted it but not before the media took a copy. Can’t remember where I saw it – but probably linked on BJ.
Orange shitstain warning, but – in your faces, NY and CA!
Here’s a link re: the CA GOP’s fake ballot box drop-offs.
The tweet “defending” this as legal came from CAGOP but was deleted by twitter.
My guess is they will announce an investigation.
TS (the original)
This was a poll on 538 that had me worried a few days back. Highly rated pollster
SEP 30-OCT 1, 2020 A/B IBD/TIPP
1,021 LV Biden 49% Trump 46% Biden +3
Same pollster today
OCT 7-11, 2020 A/B IBD/TIPP
851 LV Biden 53% Trump 42% Biden +10 (not sure how Nate gets +10 instead of +11, presumably his magic calculations)
538 now has Biden at +10.6
Early voting starts in Louisiana this Friday.
I voted in Ohio on Saturday – my wife and I dropped our ballots off at the county Board of Elections dropbox. We’re fortunate that’s an easily available option for us. If you haven’t been following the Ohio dropbox saga, it’s kinda nuts:
Ugh. On a certain level, I have to admire his single-mined commitment to the bit.
@WaterGirl: here’s the lowdown- and it’s a felony:
@mrmoshpotato: where does he get this stuff!?
I had a lovely day in NYC yesterday. Strolled with the fam through central park, went to the Met (the impressionist and modern art gallery was out of this world!), had a delicious vegan sushi dinner.
It was indeed a post-apocolyptic hellscape!
@TS (the original): Bear in mind that ‘margin of error’ doesn’t really give a good account of the magnitude and character of random error. ‘Random’ means that you will see all possible patterns in the data– up, down, sideways, whatever. Each and every pattern is equally likely and equally unlikely.
Goku (Amerikan Baka)
Ohioan here as well. I despise LaRose very much. He’s a fucking lying phony
Oh, I don’t like the way Sen. Blumenthal’s right hand is shaking and twitching. Have not noticed that before. ☹️
@Benw: I know! There isn’t even a Hell, NY or Helltown, NY. What a Soviet shitpile mobster conman dumbfuck!
@dmsilev: I (and probably hundreds of other people) reported him to Twitter and they made him take it off. But I say, let them go ahead – the ballots they’ll get are going to be Republican and will be thrown out. It’s stupid.
TS (the original)
My statistics should tell me that – but it is a long time ago that I used same. Consequently I feel happiest when Biden has double figure leads.
@SiubhanDuinne: Drink and not drink at the same time!
@SiubhanDuinne: All twelve of them, I expect. At least it seems this way in the Peoples’ Republic of San Diego. How times have changed!
@Timurid: Thank you! Updated the post up top.
Some people are really concerned about the pandemic here in California. But maybe, just a little overboard?
@laura: May violate the law? May? The world is upside down.
@SiubhanDuinne: I was going to wait, but I walked by the nearest early voting location this morning and the line wasn’t too bad so I joined it. It took 30 minutes total. I’m in Dekalb county, and this is a relatively small voting place. Someone in line said that the main Dekalb location was swamped, so he left and tried this one (Coan rec center).
Not sure where October 20 for wisconsin came from. Wife, daughter and I have already returned our mail in ballots and good friends have voted early in person.
No One of Consequence
Satellite In-Person Absentee voting open in Urbandale, Iowa.
Just a heads-up.
Peace, and go vote.
Sorry, wrong thread.
Oxymoron or not, that’s technically what we have in Maine, too.
The League of Women Voters would like to change that, but so far it hasn’t happened.
@WaterGirl: this kind of journalism made a career for comedian Ron Shock (RIP), where the plausible deniability was cooked into the reporting template.
Oregon will also mail ballots this week! So looking forward to filling it out. It’s been a hell of a long four years waiting for this moment.
@SiubhanDuinne: I was not successful Roswell Library had a lone of 80 to 100 at 7:30
This is Milton Library https://twitter.com/BobbyKaple/status/1315651671322750977
Mike has been in line since 8
This is completely misleading.
According to the MD State Board of Elections, early voting in person does not start until Monday, October 26. You could look it up on the official MDSBOE website.
You may have dropped off your mail-in ballot, but you sure as fuck did not “early vote” in person – which AFAICT was the intent of listing states at the top of this thread.
@WaterGirl: fyi I put a video at 39 Can you put it up or is that not possible
@No One of Consequence: You just made yourself someone of consequence
Yup! That’s exactly what happens when I take a mouthful of delicious beverage and then someone on a top 10,000 blog says something funny like
and I spew it out.
Early voting sites in Virginia expand from one per county to many (fourteen here in Fairfax, I think) on Wednesday. Turnout is already high, and I’m expecting it to absolutely explode.
@WaterGirl: Again, this is misleading. According to the MD State Board of Elections website, early voting in person does not start until October 26.
Technically one can drop off one’s mail-in ballot now, but IIUC that wasn’t the intent of your list. If my understanding is correct, you should remove MD from that list.
@SiubhanDuinne: Oh no! What were you trying to enjoy?
I searched for “early voting wisconsin
Do you have reason to think that information is incorrect?
Yikes!! Well, we said we would crawl over shards of broken glass if need be. Happily, we still have plenty of other days to give it a try.
@No One of Consequence: Added up top, thanks!
@SiubhanDuinne: That’s not great news about Blumenthal. Worrisome.
@No One of Consequence: Hello! Also in Urbandale, Iowa. Absentee ballots were mailed out on Oct 5 and in person voting started then too. We got our ballots on Oct 6 and turned them into the drop box the next day.
@JanieM: Virginia also technically has “absentee in person.” I suspect that was originally a way to shoehorn it into the state code. The State Board of Elections website just calls it early voting now, so I guess the technical term doesn’t matter much any more.
Missouri has absentee voting in person at your county elections office (through Nov. 2). If you’re going to be out of your county on Election Day (or for various other reasons), you can vote prior to Election Day.
@mrmoshpotato: Well, water as it happens in this case. But don’t say anything funny after 5:00 pm.
Alaska: first day of early voting is Oct 19. If you vote by the 29th the votes are counted on Election Day.
I am doing early voting in person because it doesn’t require a witness and the ballot is the same type as the Election Day ballot (paper and fill in circles). It’s in court now as to whether witnesses will be required for absentee ballots during the pandemic.
@Redshift: I’m not totally sure, and I see that there are some arguments going on, but according to that LWW site I linked, “early voting” is when your vote is counted as soon as you submit it (if you do it in person) or they receive it (if you mail it), whereas for absentee-in-person they don’t count the votes until election night. So it doesn’t matter in terms of one’s own actions, but it does matter in terms of when the votes are counted — which, given all the shenanigans that are likely to go on this Nov. 3, probably matters a lot.
@Uncle Cosmo: done! thank you.
@WaterGirl: No, I would guess that is correct and friends simply returned mail in ballots to the polling place drop box.
@Maeve: Thanks, added that to the list of upcoming dates.
No One of Consequence
Nope. Small and innocuous. (They never see you coming.)
You’re quite welcome, miss. And thank you for you all you do.
Yup. Got my absentee request form, but got concerned about the in-person vote tallies Election night. I wanted this household to try to show our blue, to change Iowa’s hue, when the Bill Comes DUE, Donald. (Rather concerned about Election Night *not* being decisive and another Brooks Brothers Riot causing even more chaos, heartburn and you know, just the distinct, all-to-real possibility of the end of our Democracy. Not that absentee or mail-in voting is bad, far from it. Just in *this* case, we have the luxury of risking the in-person vote to help the early appearances come Election Night. I’ve no doubt it all the ballots are counted, this will be a resounding defeat for the ShitGibbon.)
@Dave: Thanks for clarifying!
@Uncle Cosmo: No, it is not misleading. I’ve ‘returned my voted ballot’, which is the wording used on the MD elections website. There is nothing more for me to do. Local government will do its thing on its own schedule, but I’m done. Your little rant only muddles the question.
Watching WaPo feed during the recess
@SiubhanDuinne: also, drunk and not drunk, at same time.
@mrmoshpotato: Hell’s Kitchen?
If you want to see folks throwing their life away – check out this man who literally fasted himself to death and then died because he thought Trump was a literal God.
@SiubhanDuinne: Apparently so
With few exceptions, anything touching Gwinnett Co., GA might be cursed for Rs this year.
No One of Consequence
IA fell off again. (not trying to Pedant, but if the inclusion helps one person vote, it’s not likely to be a Trump or Ernst vote if they get that info from here…)
Anonymous At Work
(All caps warning)
IF YOU VOTE BY MAIL OR BY ABSENTEE BALLOT OR NON-TRUMP APPROVED TRUMP-USED VOTING METHOD, CHECK WITH YOUR STATE ELECTION APPARATUS TO VERIFY THAT YOUR BALLOT WAS ACCEPTED.
Lesson of a lot of phone-banking for a district that’s 90% Democrat, 90% already voted, is to remind people to check on their ballot’s arrival and status.
@JPL: Jammed in Athens
@Anonymous At Work:
I don’t know if there’s a centralized website that shows where to check your status for all states, but here’s Maine’s.
I voted absentee-in-person last week and my ballot was marked accepted by evening of the same day.
Unlike the poor citizens of Texas with your measly one-spot per county rule thanks to Abbott and those activist courts, my city alone has dozens of ballot dropoff locations open right now. Finished my ballot yesterday (plowing through all those initiatives) and will take it somewhere today. Done and dusted.
Gin & Tonic
Almost top 10,000. Let’s not get too full of ourselves.
@MattF: I was going to say that also applied to California (at least, not until at least a couple weeks from now depending on county and even that only because of a recent law), but I was shocked to discover you apparently can early vote in-person at county elections offices now. We don’t advertise early in-person voting in this state at all – much more emphasis on VBM which we’ve made as easy as possible. Now I know
EDIT: Or maybe only certain counties offer it. All the Secretary of State office says is “Some counties offer early voting at a few locations before Election Day. Contact your county elections office to see if they offer early voting.”
@rachel: At least for Biden/Harris, it helps drive the landslide/tsunami/earthquake narrative when they win. The popular vote may not mean anything according to the Constitution, but it’s still important.
@Gin & Tonic:
Wait, we weren’t supposed to do that?
@Benw: Stretching the definition there a bit.
Cheryl from Maryland
@WaterGirl: Maryland, yes, in-person early voting starts October 26th and runs through November 2nd.
Mail-in voting, however, has already started with ballots sent out and available drop boxes if one doesn’t trust the USPS. Maryland will have 281 dropbox sites — not all are open now but will be this week. There is ballot tracking at the Maryland Board of Elections website.
In my county, early in-person voting started on October 5th at the elections board office and will expand to several different “voting centers” in the county on October 31st. Here are the statewide rules:
I’m here because I can’t stomach reading about or watching the Handmaiden’s Tale hearings in the Senate this week.
Apparently our WA ballots are supposed to be mailed out this week. I told my 17 year old daughter who missed being of voting age by 5 months that she can fill out my ballot. So she is busy researching all the local county commissioner and nonpartisan races (that are really partisan, they just don’t tell you who’s the R and D). Then we’ll drive over and drop it in one of the drop boxes. It is so refreshing to live in a state and city that works to make voting easier. We have 22 ballot drop boxes in our county of just under 500,000 here in the Vancouver WA area. I have at least 5 within a 5 minute drive. They are in front of post offices, schools, government buildings, and the park and ride lots all across the metro area
The WA-3rd Congressional race is starting to heat up here. LOTS of Carolyn Long and Jaime Herrera Beutler ads on TV during the NFL games, which is the only live TV that I watch. The last polls in Sept had Herrera Beutler up by 2 pts. Maybe a blue wave for Biden might carry Long over the top. She is running really good ads compared to Herrera-Beutler. All about growing up poor, living and working in her parents fruit stand and such. Herrera-Beutler is just running lame attack ads about how Long will raise your taxes and coddle Antifa.
@Scout211: Yes, I’m aware now. I had literally never heard of in-person early voting in CA before this year and was unaware it was a thing (to be fair, until this year I never really needed to think about it – the neighborhood polling place I’d voted at for almost two decades was convenient, on my way to work, and never required waiting in line more than 5 minutes and usually not at all)
The Moar You Know
Too much potential fuckery all the way around. My wife and I will fill out our ballots tonight and I will take them directly to the San Diego County Registrar’s building tomorrow. I suspect a lot of folks will be doing that, and I feel bad for the Registrar employees who are going to get BURIED in ballots from people like me, but by God my vote will be counted.
@No One of Consequence: No, I appreciate that! I must have edited the post in two different places. oops. it’s back now, and I have given IA a stern talking to, so hopefully it will stay! :-)
My small county in Washington is mailing the ballots on Oct 14th. I still haven’t decided on one local race, so will take a few days before I return at the usual dropbox.
Eta: corrected day
Yep. We are sandwiched between two hearing threads. I appreciate Betty putting those threads up, because we need them.
I can’t take them myself. The Rs jamming this through is wrong and is upsetting on so many levels. I started crying just seeing the photo of the crazy-eyed person on the first thread on the hearings.
This can be the designated safe space. :-)
Early voting in my area of CA does not start until Oct 24, as there are no polls open til then. We all have vote by mail of course. I looked at the CA early voting locations and most open on the 30th, a few on the 31st and I saw one that opened on the 5th. I did not look at all of them.
Here is the site. https://caearlyvoting.sos.ca.gov
@The Moar You Know: Don’t they just have you put it in a lockbox??
CA’s been pushing permanent absentee voting since the 90’s.
KY Voter here. I had requested an absentee ballot, because COVID ya’ know. Received it on Thursday, dropped it off in the ballot collection box at the County Clerk’s office just today!
I made the same point. But. I suspect that most would be rethuglican but if one unsuspecting dem ballot was lost that way, it’s too much. And it is illegal, so they should get the punishment that they understand, be beaten about the head and shoulders with baseball bats. There are still a lot of republicans in CA, it’s a big state, but they do deserve to vote and deserve to have their vote counted. And if their local dairy wants to send a cow to office, as has been going on in the Fresno area for a while……
@Ruckus: What I don’t get is why everyone seems to be assuming they’re going to be emptying these unofficial drop off boxes into the trash? They almost certainly are planning on submitting most of them (either in the mail or to an actual drop-off location).
They might even be planning on submitting all of them and just using it as a collection points for voters they think will be more sympathetic (thus the R office, Church, gun store, etc locations), but I don’t trust them not to selectively submit or destroy ballots based on their own profiles of the voters in question.
LindaBee in MT
Please add Montana to your list. Early voting in person October 2 to October 30 at county Board of Election offices. Steve Daines is poised to win a decisive Senate seat for Democrats!
@LindaBee in MT: Added MT to the title up top, and added the voting details in the post up top.
Thank you! I just had to approve your comment, so you may be a new commenter. Welcome!
Early voting on Saturday and Sunday in MA are likely to be fucking mobbed.
I plan on driving home past town hall every day next week, to see what the line is like. My commutes home are at 8:45 and 12:45 (drop WarriorTeen off at Middle School, fetch WarriorTeen back from Middle School), and normally I circumnavigate Watertown Square because traffic. Ugh. I suspect that Tuesday or Wednesday the line will be short enough that I’ll be willing to go home, park the ToasterVan, and walk back down the bike path to Town Hall and get it over with.
HerrDoktor is voting at 7am on Election Day, unless Watertown follows Boston and Waltham into the red.
We have ballot issues (#1 enhancing right to repair and #2 ranked choice voting), which for the first time in living memory are issues we can vote Yes on.
@Ruckus: added CA details up top.
There needs to be some kind of personal penalty for public officials who refuse to perform their duties despite repeatedly losing in court. Otherwise they will keep pulling this kind of shit: refuse to do it on one grounds, lose, appeal, lose on appeal, refuse to do it on another grounds, lather, rinse, repeat. Particularly in a case like an election, they can run out the clock and thwart the law even if they lose at every turn. At some point, they need to be held in criminal contempt and thrown in jail or something.
@KithKanan: I think the problem is that the County is likely to send out equipment to remove/destroy the fake boxes. They won’t submit the contents to the actual drop boxes, since the chain of custody is already contaminated.
@LindaBee in MT: Steve Bullock, you mean. :)
I’m actually more excited for this race than most of the others. Daines might be sinking himself by jamming through such a rabid pro-forced birth candidate. And neck and neck favours Bullock. At the end he’s still a popular governor plus the House race might have coattails since my understanding is she’s been consistently ahead. Montana might just be a big surprise for Democrats November 3rd.
No One of Consequence
After our Caucus performance, we deserve every stern talking to there is…
And thank you for re-appending. Much appreciated.
Maybe I’m being too picky, but your correction re: California is not accurate. All counties offer in-person early voting, they just vary by dates and times. They can start on October 5th and all must have early in-person voting starting at least 4 days before Election Day. See my link at #81.
All counties have vote by mail starting October 5th.
The republican party in CA is losing and badly. The last election they lost positions they’ve held for a very long time. It has only gotten worse since. They are desperate and they know this is illegal. CA has made voting even easier than it used to be and I’ve lived and voted in other states. I have three polling places and more drop boxes within walking distance, it isn’t necessary and this is a felony. Even if they took every ballot to the county office, they would be invalid ballots. Now CA may count them but they don’t have to. Going to repeat this. It is a felony to do what they are doing, they know it’s wrong and illegal and so I ask, what do they expect to happen? And what do you expect to happen? You are OK with a political party gathering ballots? I’m not, and I wouldn’t be if the democrats were doing this. I’ve had to vote on machines that could easily be fucked with and it pisses me off that republicans feel they need to cheat to win, because it means that they know their policies are wrong, they know they are supporting a very narrow slice of citizens and they know that they want to fuck over a wide swath of citizens. They aren’t doing this out of concern that your vote might not count, they are doing this hopefully that your vote won’t count.
Early voting starts tomorrow in Texas. I don’t want to go on the first day because I figure there will be crowds, and I have to work Wednesday, so we’ll go Thursday.
I think that would be my fault with my update. I was not exactly clear on the voting procedure of CA, only on the dates for voting in person within walking distance of my residence.
Maryland also started early voting. I dropped off my ballot last weekend.
Early voting in person starts Wednesday 14th in Tennessee and runs through Thursday 29th.
After five and a half hours, my son finally cast his ballot.
@Ruckus: Yes, I agree with all of this. I agree this is and should be illegal. I agree CA Republicans are nuts, I’ve lived here all my life.
I’m just trying to figure out what they think they gain by this, since these boxes appear to be primarily targeting their own voters.
@No One of Consequence: I guess that’s one silver lining from the unending shit show we have had the last 6 months – I had forgotten all about the caucus debacle! :-)
Mississippi is another state with no early voting period. ClarionLedger:
@Scout211: I had copied that from a CA website, but you guys know vastly more about CA than I do. So i added an asterisk and then added the text from your comment.
If you prefer different text, please reply and I’ll paste that in.
edit: I am only talking about in person voting in these posts, so I didn’t add anything about that.
@Ruckus: RE: A Political Party gathering ballots – that part is legal in California and Democratic volunteers do it too. What isn’t legal is doing it as a drop box – the ballot needs to be gathered in-person and signed on the envelope by the person you designate to return it for you.
@SiubhanDuinne: It is common. My SO and a friend both have hand tremors, nothing more serious.
@Vince: That’s what tripped me up earlier. :-)
The title of the post is In Person Voting, so I am sticking with the date I have listed.
@Timill: Thanks, I added that up top!
@Another Scott: I updated up top with Mississippi.
I did not include this (above) because I know that Rhode Island offers in person starting Oct 14
@KithKanan: It’s legal to have someone else drop your ballot off for you in CA; IF AND ONLY IF, you authorize that person on your ballot envelope. If that authorization is not filled out it’s a spoiled ballot and the person collecting them has committed voter fraud.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: The fact that the California Republican Party is willing to risk felony charges just to spoil ballots tells one a lot about the California Republican Party.
@cain: This is ridiculous. You don’t die after 4 days of fasting and this guy was not skinny. And the article said he collapse over tea, so he wasn’t even fasting. Maybe someone in his family got tired of the shitgibbon worship and took advantage of the situation.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: You are correct in all of this. I just don’t get why they would be intentionally spoiling the ballots of their own voters.
My guess is someone believed the RWNJ propaganda about “ballot harvesting” and didn’t, you know, check with a lawyer or even anyone outside of the RWNJ bubble before setting this up, or thought they’d get away with it because IOKIYAR. Fuck ’em.
It’s confusing, because this change was per executive order by Governor Newsom. It’s not that clear on the SOS website, with some of the sections not updated to the new guidelines. I think the text above is accurate. So some counties started early in-person voting on October 5th, but all must start in-person voting by October 31st at the latest.
@KithKanan: If the ballots aren’tcounted it will be another excuse for a lawsuit by the GOP. They are hoping to tangle the CA vote in legal shenanigans so CA electors will notbe able to vote on the designated day. Part of the scheme to force the election into the House, where the shitgibbon wins unless we pull off some amazing upsets for Congressional seats in at least 3 different states.
@yellowdog: Thank you. This makes sense, and is the best explanation for primarily evil as opposed to primarily stupid motivations that I’ve seen.
I’m seeing reports on Twitter that various GA early polling locations are facing long lines, broken equipment, etc. Once again, the Republican Powers That Be in charge of the state – and directly or indirectly in charge of the county elections offices – are performing incompetently (intentionally so) with the voting process.
@yellowdog: one quibble. if you are only drinking water and tea, and not eating, that is fasting. unless you put milk or cream in your tea, in which case that is not.
Yes it does. A part I really like was when I lived in Marin county. Wealthiest county in CA, 80% democratic. If they can’t get the very wealthy to like/vote for them…..
For example we had a republican fellow running for gov last time. He thought he was going to swoop in from NJ and win us over with his charm and republicanism. He was a typical condescending republican ass and he sent me an email. I replied in my best but cleanest fuck you mode. He sent me a far more condescending email. I replied in my best fuck off asshole mode. He must have gotten a few of those as he sent one more supposedly written by his wife, telling us how terrible and ungrateful we all are about her wonderful husband. I wasted no extraneous non 4 letter words in that reply. Never heard from them again. He lost rather badly. I don’t think they enjoyed their stay in our fine state. Your welcome.