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Monday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  October 12, 202011:24 pm| 228 Comments

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HELLO JUICERS!

I spent a couple days away from politics. I still checked twitter from time to time, and still checked the news here and there, but tried not to obsess.

I’m a little bit upset to report that I am still an angry and volatile person, so the problem may not be politics.

Three more fucking weeks. Three more weeks. I can keep it together that long.

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  1. 1.

    Yutsano

    October 12, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    I’m getting a slice of pumpkin pie.

    Nothing much else to report. Just that I have pumpkin pie.

  2. 2.

    Benw

    October 12, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    @Yutsano: that’s the best kind of pie filter :)

  3. 3.

    Benw

    October 12, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    Braves trying to closeout a 5-1 lead and the Chargers in overtime against the Saints!? My sports sense is highly discombobulated

  4. 4.

    Jinchi

    October 12, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    I spent a couple days away from politics.

    You’re gonna have to let us know how to do that.

  5. 5.

    gwangung

    October 12, 2020 at 11:31 pm

    I am focussing on the good news, like the staged reading festival of brand new scripts that I’m producing. Or that one of my casual professional acquaintances is a MacArthur genius.

  6. 6.

    Ruckus

    October 12, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    I’ve been maxed out the last couple of days and I’m not sure it has anything to do with politics.

    My days can be less than totally satisfactory health wise, I don’t know if it’s just me or the stress of being in the US right now/politics but some nights I don’t sleep at all. I went to bed Sunday at 5am. Up at 9am on Saturday so that was a 20 hr day, then got 5 hrs of sleep. This really does wonders for one’s general demeanor.

  7. 7.

    Bill Arnold

    October 12, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    Thank you for creating and continuing to support this place.

  8. 8.

    Cal D

    October 12, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    Yes you can!

  9. 9.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 12, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    This is fun, and I usually can’t stand listening to The Beast talk

    Joe Biden @JoeBiden 5h
    Donald Trump is running TV ads taking Dr. Fauci out of context and without his permission. So, here’s a message from the President in his own words.

  10. 10.

    MomSense

    October 12, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    @Ruckus:

    I’m struggling with the sleep thing, too.

  11. 11.

    Wapiti

    October 12, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    @Yutsano:  There is a company in Seattle called Gelatiamo; they make an incredible pumpkin gelato that tastes like pumpkin pie custard. It’s available from one of the pizza parlors every October.

  12. 12.

    Benw

    October 12, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    Stupid Chargers!

  13. 13.

    Jager

    October 12, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    @Ruckus:  I’ve been up since 3:15 this morning, felt terrible all day at 4 this afternoon I realized I didn’t take my BP medicine, no wonder I had a headache.

  14. 14.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    October 12, 2020 at 11:42 pm

    Three more fucking weeks. Three more weeks. I can keep it together that long.

    Given Trump’s lunacy, we all need to keep it together until January 20th. We have no idea what kind of insane bullshit Trump may unleash if he loses.

  15. 15.

    Mai Naem mobile

    October 12, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    John the scary part is that the 3 weeks is best case scenario and that’s just for the election. You then have to worry about what Orange Dbag will try to burn down to the ground before inauguration.
    In some good news there’s a Biden/Harris GOTV ad running on the primary American South Asian channel – TV Asia. I watch very little but I haven’t seen a Donny ad yet. Wonder if ads are being run in other foreign language channels besides Spanish obviously.

  16. 16.

    piratedan

    October 12, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    Just sitting here trying to decompress from the latest McSally shitburger of a political ad… the one where she sits down and has an honest talk with the voters and says that her votes against the ACA were not votes about ending coverage for pre-existing conditions… she then states that she has never been against pre-existing conditions, only against that evil ACA, which raised your taxes and made life tougher for your insurance providers… and then claims that Mark Kelly is obviously a lying deceitful bastard for categorizing her votes this way.

    The brazen chutzpah in these ads are simply infuriating and I suspect that if this is the level of lying going on here, wtf is going on elsewhere…

  17. 17.

    NotMax

    October 12, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    Boneless leg o’ lamb in the Instant Pot. Well, half. As my IP is the small model have to split the roast in two , so it will take the better part of the evening to finish this two act production.

  18. 18.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 12, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: Or if he wins

  19. 19.

    trnc

    October 12, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    So let me get this straight – when John McCain was running for prez against Obama, she was 96 years old – and she just died today.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/10/12/923067711/john-mccains-108-year-old-mother-dies

    I don’t think I knew his mom was alive even back then.

  20. 20.

    cain

    October 12, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    Twitter tells me that there was a debate today between Amy and Mitch McConnell – the man had the temerity to laugh when Amy grilled him on COVID. The man is so full of hubris. He’s not the senator of KY he’s their warlord. The people of KY apparently loves the ACA but don’t like Obamacare. He’s basically in power because of Racism.

  21. 21.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 12, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I do continue to think that if he loses, he will hide away in the depths of Mar-a-Lago, eating cold hamberders and two scoops of ice cream.

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 12, 2020 at 11:49 pm

    @cain: here ya go. Mitch has been letting his villain flag fly lately

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    October 12, 2020 at 11:49 pm

    We’ll all get through it. We’re (mostly) rational adults. ;)

    Channel that energy from anger to some productive project, be it trivial or complex.

  24. 24.

    Ruckus

    October 12, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    @Jager:

    Yep. I have to remind my self to take the 27 or is it 87 pills I take every day. You’d think I’d remember, as it feels like swallowing a drug store, signs, lights, counters, bottles and all.

  25. 25.

    Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)

    October 12, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    Whenever you find yourself getting down, just bear in mind that every day that goes by is a day that’s gone forever from the Republicans, a day they can never get back. We can do this.

  26. 26.

    danielx

    October 12, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    @NotMax:

    Channel that energy from anger to some productive project, be it trivial or complex.

    As long as it doesn’t involve sharp implements or mops.

    Or fields or Subarus.

  27. 27.

    Another Scott

    October 12, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    Old news for several here, but Olbermann’s back with his Worst Person in the World commentaries.

    https://youtu.be/BJb_OCETP9s

    He’s still got it.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  28. 28.

    TiredOfItAll

    October 12, 2020 at 11:56 pm

    Watched Demand Justice’s “Honor Her Wish” virtual tribute to RBG, that lifted me up a bit. So hoping the Dems prevail across the board come November.  But even if they don’t, RBG’s legacy inspires me to continue fighting, resisting, even though I am my nym. On the other hand, after 107 years the iconic Oyster Bar (located in the lower level of Grand Central Station, for any of you non-New Yorkers) is closing.  Another victim of this whole thing.

  29. 29.

    FlyingToaster

    October 12, 2020 at 11:57 pm

    Blogfather @top: Good for you!

    Tomorrow early is our first Trimester parent/teacher/student meeting (Zoom) with WarriorTeen’s homeroom teacher. I logged outta Twitter at 5pm, and have been relaxing since 8. Hopefully I can get through a 30-minute zoom session without cursing. Hopefully.

    It would SO help if WG’s advisor could remember that my kid is one of the musicians and there’s a whole lot of “Chez Toaster doesn’t give a FUCK about your priorities, sirrah!”. I’m sure he’s going to try to push the [redacted] thing on a Saturday, whereupon I’ll have to repeat the rant, “You get this kid from 8:30-6 M-Th, 9-3 F. After that and on the weekends the other schools (Suzuki & Aikikai) have priority. Get used to it. You’re never going to be more important than the others.”

  30. 30.

    Ruckus

    October 12, 2020 at 11:58 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    Remember that he’s basically an imbecile. So even if he wants to destroy everything, by the time he gets a thought formed, he forgets who, what, when, where and he never knew how in the first place. He’s made everyone around him sicker than that preverbal dog you always hear about, because, well, he’s an imbecile, so the number of not quite so imbecilic people around him drops every day as well. So even getting a few or a lot of people to fuck up stuff is going to be tougher for him. And besides, he doesn’t do tougher.

    I’m less worried about him doing anything than I am the moronic militia.

  31. 31.

    Jay

    October 12, 2020 at 11:59 pm

    This is it. The single greatest post on the internet. The local rightwing hate group throws a pro-police rally and then discovers that, just like everyone else, the cops don't give a shit about them. So they're not going to do anymore rallies. Amazing. What a time to be alive. pic.twitter.com/lLnfiPQzLX— Spek (@spekulation) October 12, 2020

  32. 32.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    October 13, 2020 at 12:02 am

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    If Trump wins, it will be time to start praying for a killer meteor to put this failed nation out of its misery.

    On a more optimistic note, my hope is for a Biden win followed by an indictment and conviction of Trump from the NY Attorney General or Manhattan District Attorney.  I won’t be fully satisfied until Trump is behind bars.

  33. 33.

    piratedan

    October 13, 2020 at 12:03 am

    anyone have thoughts on HBO’s Agents of Chaos shows?

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 12:03 am

    @Cheryl Rofer

    No matter which way the results fall, he’ll continue doing things stupid, dangerous and destructive.

    Come November 4, though, after a loss he’ll have no political capital. As in banking, no capital generates no interest. And watching the spotlight move on to the next act will psychically wound him to the quick, leaving him refusing to leave the stage yet more and more powerlessly bellowing in the encroaching darkness.

  35. 35.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    October 13, 2020 at 12:05 am

    @Another Scott:

    Keith is one of a kind.

    Olbermensch! Olbermensch! Olbermensch!

  36. 36.

    Sally

    October 13, 2020 at 12:05 am

    @NotMax: I always cook (bake) a leg of lamb in the oven. Either slow or normal, though I’m sure yours will be delicious. I’ll be interested to know how you go. I have occasionally done one on a spit roast over a BBQ. That was gorgeous! Basted with rosemary, lemon and olive oil.

  37. 37.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 12:10 am

    William Perry Pendley, head of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), has been serving illegally in his position, according to US district judge Brian Morris. A couple weeks ago, Morris ruled that Pendley must vacate his position, having not been confirmed by the Senate, a legal requirement.

    Pendley has simply decided that, no, he won’t leave actually, in defiance of the federal court ruling.

    “I have not been ousted. That is not true,” he told the Casper Star-Tribune.

    https://www.adventure-journal.com/2020/10/illegally-serving-blm-head-illegally-remains-at-post-in-defiance-of-court/

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 12:10 am

    @cain:

    The governor of KY changed the name to KYnect and the state loved it, every single thing about it, other than it was known as Obamacare – the ACA. A name change was all that was required for them to not think it had anything to do with that black man. There is a picture of turtle in front of a huge flag on the wall, the stars and bars

  39. 39.

    dm

    October 13, 2020 at 12:11 am

    There was an XKCD for you, John: https://xkcd.com/2371/

  40. 40.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 12:11 am

    I had the weirdest interaction on FB with a friend’s friend. Spouting about how she knew people who had covid and were fine, look at the low death rates (250K is OK??) and we shouldn’t be afraid.

    I related my ongoing experience with long-term effects, and that we don’t know long term prognosis for survivors yet and she kinda blew up. I asked her why she was defensive (I mean, I was just relating my experience). Her response made less sense than her original comment. So I walked away.

    Facts really melt these folks down, don’t they?

    I’m tired of being tired and out of breath, and worrying about both parents every time they have to leave the house, so forgive me if I’m not going to let people get away with this crap.

  41. 41.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 12:12 am

    @Jay: Isn’t that contempt of court? Shouldn’t he be in jail?

  42. 42.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 12:12 am

    @Sally

    First for me. Have always used the oven before. Basted it with a paste of oil, mustard, black pepper, rosemary, thyme, chopped garlic and some newly acquired mushroom powder before searing on all sides in the IP prior to pressure cooking.

  43. 43.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 12:13 am

    @NotMax:

    I actually try to lose my self at work but since the start of the year I’ve lost almost 2 months of work so that makes it harder.

  44. 44.

    patrick II

    October 13, 2020 at 12:17 am

    At his rally today, Donald Trump told the crowd that he had won three maybe four Nobel Peace prizes.  He told them twice.  They cheered.

  45. 45.

    RobertDSC-Mac Mini

    October 13, 2020 at 12:19 am

    Does anyone know or have links to information on declaring personal bankruptcy in California? I am having trouble figuring out how to do that.

  46. 46.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 12:22 am

    @TaMara (HFG):

    sorry you are longhauling with Sars-Covid-19.

    I have no patience with Covidiots either.

    ”Two 16 hour days. Covid is getting bad again at the hospital.  I am exhausted and can’t sleep. I am getting stage 2 pressure ulcers on the bridge of my nose from my N95 again.  My hands are dry, angry and hurt. I am fried. Burned out. Exhausted. Wear. A. Fucking. Mask. – Jennifer Williams tweet”

  47. 47.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 12:23 am

    @NotMax

    Also softened onion slices in the IP, then allowed those to simmer in white wine. Added water to that to make up a sufficient volume of liquid for IP pressure cooking.

  48. 48.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 12:24 am

    I’m currently helping my daughter finish up her college applications as most of the early deadlines are fast approaching in November.   She is looking exclusively at west coast schools, probably for biology or molecular biology/genetics.  But isn’t sure and wants a broad liberal arts education before getting really narrow with her choices.

    She is applying to:

    SAFETY SCHOOLS:  Western Washington and University of Oregon

    MATCH SCHOOLS:  University of Washington, University of Puget Sound, Lewis & Clark, Occidental, Whitman, Santa Clara University, Gonzaga

    REACH SCHOOLS: Maybe USC and Reed (they have longer and more tedious applications with portfolio requirements and such).  She might end up not bothering with either one as we would likely be full pay at both and that’s a very very big stretch for us.

    I think if she gets into UW that will likely be her first choice and would be a big load off our finances as it is in-state.  If she doesn’t get into UW then it will likely be a choice between WWU Honors College or whichever of the private liberal arts schools offers the most appealing merit scholarship package as they are all pretty similar and she doesn’t have a strong preference.  It’s really hard to make an informed decision from all the virtual zoom visits and such that schools are doing this fall, plus the summer DIY tours we did of closed campuses this summer with no staff or students around.   I don’t think she will end up picking one of the Jesuit schools (Gonzaga or Santa Clara) unless they make a really big aid offer, but some of her best friends are applying to Gonzaga so that might influence things.

  49. 49.

    Mary G

    October 13, 2020 at 12:27 am

    LA Times has a good column on Mayor Pete:

    Mayor Pete has found his format: the five-minute, remote-feed evisceration.

    He always looks so nice, Pete Buttigieg — handsome in that white, Midwestern, college yearbook way, with a smile that seems bucktoothed but isn’t and those perfectly, and apparently naturally, arched eyebrows.

    Last year, as we got to know him during the Democratic presidential nomination race, he bore the weight of being the first openly gay presidential candidate easily, as if it was no big deal. Sure, it takes a certain level of, shall we say, personal confidence to imagine that going from mayor of South Bend, Ind., to the White House is a possible career trajectory, but his was a quiet, respectful confidence, befitting a Rhodes scholar and a Naval intelligence officer.

    So maybe it should not be surprising to discover that when Buttigieg swore to do whatever he could to ensure the election of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, that “whatever” turned out to include “speak softly and carry a sling blade.”

  50. 50.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 12:29 am

    @Kent:  I suppose I could tolerate her becoming a Husky. Their science programs really are top notch. Plus inasmuch as many people think Seattle and Portland are analogous, they’re really quite different from each other. My personal prediction is that she will thrive up that way. And if worst comes to worst we can sic Auntie CaseyJ on her.

  51. 51.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2020 at 12:30 am

    @patrick II: What? I guess he’s confusing being nominated for the Nobel, which is a pretty low bar (there are a lot of people who can submit nominations, and Trump is at least nominally eligible to nominate himself…) with actually, you know, winning the prize.

  52. 52.

    CaseyL

    October 13, 2020 at 12:30 am

    @patrick II: ????!!!!

    And of course they believe him.

    LSD would actually bring those fools closer to reality.

  53. 53.

    James E Powell

    October 13, 2020 at 12:31 am

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini:

    You may wish to start here, but bankruptcy is a drastic step and I urge you talk with an experienced bankruptcy attorney.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 12:32 am

    @Kent

    So Liberty U is definitely off the table?

    :)

  55. 55.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 12:34 am

    @TaMara (HFG):

    They shouldn’t get away with it. And I don’t think you have to apologize for anything. If they are to stupid and hateful, that’s not your fault.

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 12:37 am

    @patrick II

    Presented by Clarence and Laverne Nobel of Whitehood, Idaho.

    //

  57. 57.

    Pete Downunder

    October 13, 2020 at 12:38 am

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini: bankruptcy law is federal so basically the same in every state. If you need a lawyer the local bar association will have a referral service. You didn’t say where in CA so I can’t be more specific. I’m an inactive CA lawyer but know nothing about details of bankruptcy law.

  58. 58.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 12:38 am

    @Yutsano:@Kent:  I suppose I could tolerate her becoming a Husky. Their science programs really are top notch. Plus inasmuch as many people think Seattle and Portland are analogous, they’re really quite different from each other. My personal prediction is that she will thrive up that way. And if worst comes to worst we can sic Auntie CaseyJ on her.

    They are very different. I’ve lived half my life in either Portland or Seattle.  Seattle is a very outward looking international city with deep blue collar maritime roots.  I worked many years around the fishing industry and on many of the fishing boats you see docked there in the off season.  Portland is more of a parochial inward-looking regional city that is more fascinated by itself than anything else.

    Interestingly, we visited both UW and UO when campus was in session.  Well, we’ve been to UW a  bunch for various reasons but only one official visit to UO.  She noticed how Nike-branded the UO is, and how much money is poured into athletics and amenities there.  The special athletic tutoring center is nicer than the main library, for example.  And all the athletic facilities and amenities like fitness centers are nicer and more posh than many of the science labs and classrooms.  It is clear where they are spending their money.   By contrast, most of the athletic facilities and student amenities at UW are exiled to the edge of campus and the world class academic facilities really take center stage.  My daughter has no interest in playing or watching sports so she really noticed the contrast.

  59. 59.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 12:41 am

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini:

    I recall it wasn’t that difficult to do, but you really need a lawyer and that costs money, which if you are a normal person getting there, is hard to come by. I’d google personal bankruptcy. Here is a good place to look.

  60. 60.

    Sally

    October 13, 2020 at 12:41 am

    @NotMax: Sounds yummy!

  61. 61.

    oclib

    October 13, 2020 at 12:41 am

    @Kent:

    I didn’t see my alma mater (Portland State) on that list…Sad!

    :)

  62. 62.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 12:42 am

    @CaseyL: I doubt they believe. They just want to cheer on anyone pissing on honors they don’t like because people they don’t like get them.

  63. 63.

    patrick II

    October 13, 2020 at 12:42 am

    @dmsilev: 

    Decide for yourself.
    Trump’s Nobel prizes

  64. 64.

    laura

    October 13, 2020 at 12:42 am

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini: heres a start: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-does-california-bankruptcy-work.html

  65. 65.

    RobertDSC-Mac Mini

    October 13, 2020 at 12:42 am

    @James E Powell:

    Thank you. I am in a hard grind right now and don’t know what to do. I’ll ask a lawyer friend from high school if he knows anyone who can help. Much appreciated.

     

    I am based in Los Angeles. Thank you everyone for the tips.

  66. 66.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 12:43 am

    @oclib: WWU is my alma mater so I win?

  67. 67.

    Gretchen

    October 13, 2020 at 12:44 am

    @Kent: I was a microbiology major.  I’d advise going to a bigger school – she doesn’t know what branch will interest her yet, and bigger schools have a bigger variety of course offerings.  And she’s more likely to be able to find a research lab to study in if she wants that.  It’s been quite awhile since I was in school but that was my observation.  I’d think that Gonzaga would have less varied offerings than UW.  Wasn’t UW one of the first to make their own covid test?

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 12:46 am

    @CaseyL: @Kent:  Okay so I said CaseyJ when I meant this wonderful lady. Totes my bad! I also have the massive selfish reason that when meet-ups become a thing again we’ll have to have y’all experience why Seattle meet-up game is so strong.

  69. 69.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 12:47 am

    @NotMax:

    So Liberty U is definitely off the table?

    :)

    Heh.   For her application to Gonzaga the supplementary essay prompt was:

    Please share an experience that made you feel uncomfortable or challenged, and then explain how you grew from the situation.

    She wrote about being an atheist LGBT middle school student in Waco, TX and how all her elementary school friends started to peel away from her when they got to middle school because she didn’t share their faith or go to their churches, and how she became a stronger person with a better sense of self as a result.

    That might actually be some good reverse psychology with the west coast Jesuits, but I’m not sure that is what Liberty University is looking for.

  70. 70.

    oclib

    October 13, 2020 at 12:51 am

    @JaySinWA:

    That’s up to Kent….¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    :)

  71. 71.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 12:52 am

    @Jay: I hesitate to say I’m a long hauler – I have more good days than bad…it’s just the last couple of days have been bad. So I’m cranky.

  72. 72.

    cain

    October 13, 2020 at 12:53 am

    @Ruckus:

    So basically it’s racism. The whole state is permeated with it. They are a sad state.

  73. 73.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 12:54 am

    @Mary G: That’s good.

  74. 74.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 12:55 am

    @Gretchen:@Kent: I was a microbiology major.  I’d advise going to a bigger school – she doesn’t know what branch will interest her yet, and bigger schools have a bigger variety of course offerings.  And she’s more likely to be able to find a research lab to study in if she wants that.  It’s been quite awhile since I was in school but that was my observation.  I’d think that Gonzaga would have less varied offerings than UW.  Wasn’t UW one of the first to make their own covid test?

    Yeah, there are pros and cons.  At UW she will be in 250-student core science classes taught mostly by TAs (I was an Oceanography TA at UW myself when I was in grad school so I know the drill).  At a small school like UPS or Whitman she will be in 15-20 student classes taught by full professors who engage a lot of undergrads in their own research because there are no grad students around to be RAs.

    Mostly it’s going to be a cost issue.  A place like Reed or USC is going to be about $50,000/year more expensive than UW as they rarely offer much merit aid.  That’s an enormous cost difference and we still have a 9th grader who is 3 years behind.  I’m married to a doctor but we do want to also retire some day.   Some of the less elite liberal arts colleges offer generous merit aid so it really depends on if one of them makes a generous enough offer to bend the cost curve down to within spitting distance of UW.

    I’m just happy that we live in a state that has a world class public university.  That’s one of the reasons we decided to live across the river from Portland in Camas WA when we moved back to the Northwest.  The public school options in WA are definitely superior to OR.

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    Roger Moore

    October 13, 2020 at 12:55 am

    @TaMara (HFG):

    I think the bigger thing is that the judge has openly invited the plaintiffs in the case to start naming his official actions that they would like to have ruled invalid.  It would be nice to see him receive some kind of personal penalty, but overruling the awful stuff he’s done is more important.

  76. 76.

    Sab

    October 13, 2020 at 12:56 am

    @Yutsano: We were hoping to have an Ohio meetup when some out of state jackal passed through. Then we forgot her name, so we couldn’t contact her. Then the pandemic. Ohio jackals are a sad bunch. As an Ohio jackal this makes me even sadder.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 12:56 am

    A West Virginia nurse who was one of the featured speakers during this year’s Republican National Convention (RNC) was on Thursday reportedly arrested and charged in connection with a shooting which required another woman to be air-lifted to a hospital for surgery, according to reports from several local news outlets, including WSAZ-TV.

    Amy Johnson Ford, 39, also known as Amy Jolene Thorn and Amy Johnson, the reports say, was detained by officers with the Williamson Police Department and charged with malicious wounding in the shooting of Jonda Whitt.

    “Through the investigation we came to find out that two females got into a verbal argument, turning into one of the females getting a gun. She did shoot the victim one time in the abdomen area,” Williamson Police Chief Grady Dotson told local ABC affiliate WCHS, Channel 8.

    Dotson is also quoted as identifying the shooter as the same woman who spoke at the RNC.

    “Amy is well-known around the area for her participation and going over to the RNC committee and a nurse that was helping out with the coronavirus and was on the front line,” the police chief said, per the WCHS report.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/nurse-who-praised-trumps-covid-response-at-republican-national-convention-is-under-arrest-for-shooting-woman-during-argument/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  78. 78.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 12:57 am

    Starting to lean more toward the "Trump had a fairly mild case and made the doctors treat him as if he had a severe case like a big VIP baby" theories now.

    — Schooley (@Rschooley) October 13, 2020

    (Fixed a minor typo in the quote.)

  79. 79.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 12:59 am

    @Roger Moore:

    @TaMara (HFG):

    I think the bigger thing is that the judge has openly invited the plaintiffs in the case to start naming his official actions that they would like to have ruled invalid.  It would be nice to see him receive some kind of personal penalty, but overruling the awful stuff he’s done is more important.

    It would actually be good thing if he stayed put through the end of the Trump administration because if Biden wins, his new BLM appointee will be able to just banket erase all of the Trump Aministration actions without even going through notice and comment rulemaking and lots of time consuming analysis.   Just declare them all invalid because they weren’t properly promulgated in the first place.

  80. 80.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 12:59 am

    @TaMara (HFG):

    I am sorry about that,

    I am cranky too.

    {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}

  81. 81.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 1:01 am

    @Kent: The small class sizes at WWU were a big feature for me. Even the large general history classes were taught by Profs.  One of my HS classmates ended up at UW with huge Calculus classes. He eventually dropped out.

  82. 82.

    cain

    October 13, 2020 at 1:02 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I’m glad he’s going to be ok – it will make it sweeter when we rip everything away from him.

  83. 83.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 1:02 am

    @NotMax:

    By small, you mean the three-quart Instant Pot? Which model do you have? I’ve got the basic Duo on my watch list for Prime Day. Didn’t think the Nova or Plus looked worth the extra money.

  84. 84.

    Aleta

    October 13, 2020 at 1:03 am

    (NYRB)

    The FBI’s Washington, D.C., headquarters sent agents from its “Fly Team,” an elite counterterrorism unit, to Portland this summer during the second weekend in July. Their task was to interview arrested protesters and carry out the “initial exploitation of phones, or other communication devices,” according to FBI emails obtained through a public records request. …

    (T)he emails suggest that the FBI has been using counterterrorism tools and powers to map left-wing protest networks just months before an election whose result is likely to be delayed, if not challenged.
    …
    The email describing the Fly Team operation and asking for volunteers to assist with “investigative follow up” was written by George Chamberlin, who was then the assistant special agent in charge of the Portland FBI office’s national security branch. Chamberlin, who declined to comment for this story, retired from the agency a few weeks later.

    Among the special powers granted exclusively to the FBI under a Reagan-era executive order (No. 12333) are authorizations to conduct “unconsented physical searches” and “physical surveillance” for intelligence purposes in the US. The Supreme Court has held that the Fourth Amendment generally requires law enforcement agencies to obtain a warrant before searching cell phone data, but there is an exception for “exigent circumstances,” which is supposed to apply only to extreme situations in which lives are in danger.

    …
    Whatever the duration of its operation, the presence of the Fly Team suggests that the administration’s alarmist language about the protests in Portland being “hijacked” by “anarchists” and “domestic terrorists” was more than mere talk—the government had acted using capabilities designed to meet a real threat of terrorism.

     

    The Fly Team’s presence in Portland also raises questions about the FBI’s decisions on how to allocate resources to meet varying domestic terrorism threats. A recent study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies identifies far-right terrorism as a significantly more serious menace than either foreign radicals or the far-left in the US. And this week saw the release of a DHS report—which had allegedly been suppressed for months by the agency’s leadership—that called violent white supremacy “the most persistent and lethal threat in the homeland.” …

    How the FBI quantifies and responds to a threat of violent extremism from the left, as opposed to the right, could become a pressingly consequential issue around Election Day. The bureau is reportedly preparing to coordinate a federal response to any political violence and civil unrest from a command center on Pennsylvania Avenue, a short walk from the Department of Justice.

  85. 85.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 1:04 am

    Biden trolling the orange disease and I’m here for it.

    Biden takes his plane steps like he is climbing a mountain: pic.twitter.com/kbOP6f98pn

    — Bo Erickson CBS (@BoKnowsNews) October 13, 2020

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    sgrAstar

    October 13, 2020 at 1:05 am

    @Wyatt Salamanca: the new Senate will be seated on January3. That could be a critical brake on trumpian shenanigans. Trying to make sure that happens.

    ?

  87. 87.

    James E Powell

    October 13, 2020 at 1:05 am

    @Steeplejack:

    But mild or not mild, how does one go from positive to negative test in one week?

    I guess I don’t understand exactly how viruses work.

  88. 88.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 1:05 am

    @TaMara (HFG): From your description of your experience you have a very valid claim to long hauler-hood. A very different view than what we hear from many who appear to bounce back quickly. They may have residual effects they aren’t aware of yet, but yours were very apparent.

  89. 89.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 1:06 am

    @Roger Moore:  I’m all for that. Still would like to see that Yosemite Sam in an orange jumpsuit until he cried “uncle”

  90. 90.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 1:07 am

    @Jay: Thank you. ?

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 1:08 am

    @Steeplejack

    Yeah, the three quart “mini” model.

    Agree that the bells and whistles on the elite models are just that. Even if I had a cell phone I couldn’t see any pressing need to have my cooking pot connect to it.

  92. 92.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 1:09 am

    @Sab: Honestly? After pandemic, if I swing anywhere close, there will be a meet-up. Oh yes. There WILL be a meet-up!

  93. 93.

    Morzer

    October 13, 2020 at 1:12 am

    I am still trying to understand how this works:

    https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1315750890939318272

    Cal Cunningham up 49%-39% over Tillis in new SurveyUSA poll. He’s *improved* since the texting scandal — he was up 7% in the last poll. Cunningham lost some ground with seniors, who I guess are used to having higher moral standards for electeds. #ncsen

  94. 94.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 1:16 am

    @JaySinWA: Thanks. I do take comfort in the fact the bad days are getting further apart.

  95. 95.

    Roger Moore

    October 13, 2020 at 1:16 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I have the 3 quart Duo, and I like it a lot.  I use it almost exclusively as a pressure cooker, which means the other features of the fancy models are lost on me.  But having a pressure cooker that I don’t have to watch like a hawk is incredibly handy.  I think it’s a valuable addition to almost any kitchen.

  96. 96.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 13, 2020 at 1:17 am

    @Kent: Sounds reasonable to me.

  97. 97.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 1:19 am

    @James E Powell:

    You can’t trust a goddamn thing they say about the test results or the timing thereof.

    I think Trump was positive at least several days before they say he was, and he might have been the superspreader at the #RoseGardenMassacre. Which would mean “going from positive to negative in a week” is more like the usual 10 days.

  98. 98.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 13, 2020 at 1:20 am

    @Mary G:

    I blew him off .. umm … I tossed him aside … I didn’t pay that milquetoast motherfucker one ounce of attention and figured he was a simple spoiler.

    I can now understand why he gathered the support he did.

  99. 99.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 1:20 am

    @Steeplejack: Okay, the Duo 7 in 1 has the yogurt maker while the really basic one does not. I have the six quart.

    I use the yogurt maker setting for fermented rice as a bread proofing oven. It is a big convenience but not a deal breaker. The Lux omits that feature, and the Duo is usually available for the price of a Lux with a good sale.

    One problem I have had is that the spot welds on the rack that holds the seal on the lid have failed at three points. It happened just out of warranty and the replacement was unavailable for a long time. I finally MacGyvered a fix with an aquarium epoxy that I have had to redo once. It seems to be fine for pressure cooking with that totally not factory approved fix.

  100. 100.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 1:21 am

    @Aleta:

    since the 50’s, the FBI has chased imaginary communist/socialist/leftist/social justice/environmental groups while allowing thousands of Americans, even their own Agents, to be murdered by Reich Wing groups and other real terrorists.

    Incompetence or Collusion?

    Secretary of State, the Honourable Hillary Rodham Clinton might have a private opinion on the FBI.

  101. 101.

    Roger Moore

    October 13, 2020 at 1:22 am

    @NotMax:

    Even if I had a cell phone I couldn’t see any pressing need to have my cooking pot connect to it.

    I think the main point of having it connect to your phone is that it lets you have a fancy UI without having to worry about the engineering involved in adding a touch screen to a cooking appliance.  I bought a sous vide circulator with a touch screen control, but it was eventually destroyed by steam from the sous vide pot.  The replacement has basically no controls on the device itself and relies on a cell phone instead, and it’s had a much better lifespan.

  102. 102.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 13, 2020 at 1:23 am

    @Morzer:

    I saw a blurb earlier that his new support was men and young folks. Take that with the confidence of a tweet.

  103. 103.

    piratedan

    October 13, 2020 at 1:23 am

    @Morzer: the strange dichotomy between coming off as an exemplary family man with strong values or being shown to be “human” by having an affair… plus you have the dichotomy of Tillis being infected when the entire GOP position was that it was under control and even some unfaithful dudes understand being unfaithful but not being cruel…

    people being people eh?

  104. 104.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 1:25 am

    @NotMax, @Roger Moore:

    Thanks for the feedback. A lot of what I have read leads me to believe that I wouldn’t rely on the automatic stuff very much and would do “manual” programming, so I don’t think I need the fancy features. And, as Roger said, just having a pressure cooker (or slow cooker) needing minimal attention is a big plus in itself.

  105. 105.

    TS (the original)

    October 13, 2020 at 1:30 am

    @Morzer:

    I  read (sorry no link) that his numbers went up with white males.  Maybe it is the trump effect – adultery is good.

  106. 106.

    Roger Moore

    October 13, 2020 at 1:30 am

    @Morzer:

    I remember Doug Jones saying he was happier to focus on the issues in his race against Roy Moore rather than his teenage girl fixation.  Moore’s supporters thought the scandal stories were a dirty trick and tended to rally around him when the news focused on them, but some supporters could be peeled off when the campaign focused on actual governing.  Something similar might be happening with Cunningham; people see the sexting stuff as a dirty trick and actually support him more when they seem him as the victim.

  107. 107.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 1:31 am

    @Roger Moore: I think Instant Pot has gone to the worst of both worlds by having a high failure rate sophisticated local UI with a very fancy phone UI. The early reports of failures the pots after the Duo were not good. They added to the local UI and added the phone interface, increasing the chance of failure.

  108. 108.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 1:35 am

    @Kent:

    Sounds like you and she have it well organized. It’s got to be a big ordeal. My dim memory from 50 years ago is that I applied to two or three schools, got into the one I wanted, end of story. I was living overseas, so no visits or anything.

  109. 109.

    Jean

    October 13, 2020 at 1:36 am

    @Morzer: There was also the story about Tillis having tried to strangle his ex-wife, so love notes written by Cunningham pale in comparison.

  110. 110.

    BeautifulPlumage

    October 13, 2020 at 1:37 am

    @Yutsano: Yes! I miss the Seattle meetups & love seeing so many comment here. I’m really kicking myself for not getting to the last one to write postcards.

  111. 111.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 1:39 am

    @JaySinWA:

    Another good point: keep it simple.

  112. 112.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 1:44 am

    @Jean:

    it’s also the Trump Taint.

  113. 113.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 1:44 am

    @Steeplejack

    A huge added plus for me is that there are so many things which can be prepared in it, either all at once or in stages, which normally would require multiple pots and pans on the stove or in the oven. So at the end of the day there is only the one pot to clean.

  114. 114.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 13, 2020 at 1:47 am

    @Yutsano: I’m making a sausage, egg and cheese sammich.

  115. 115.

    BeautifulPlumage

    October 13, 2020 at 1:50 am

    @Kent: based on my experiences in the 80’s & 90’s at the UW, I counsel folks to go to a smaller school then transfer. My freshman math & science classes were huge and the TA’s were overwhelmed. I went back as a junior/senior and really appreciated the smaller class sizes and breadth of experiences available.

    My experience also includes a stint at a community college with exceptional teachers in small classes; and during one of my returns to UW, being a TA for a science lab. I was not the most qualified TA, having never taught before, but I was offered credits and thought the experience would be good.

    Your daughter has her own path, and with a strong sense of self will be OK in large classes if she chooses one of the big schools. I wish her well on whichever school she chooses, and that her path leads to personal & professional fulfilment.

  116. 116.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 1:57 am

    @JaySinWA:@Kent: The small class sizes at WWU were a big feature for me. Even the large general history classes were taught by Profs.  One of my HS classmates ended up at UW with huge Calculus classes. He eventually dropped out.

    Yeah, I was impressed with our visit to WWU and she really likes it.  But there is the perception that it has a lot of slacker pot-head type students and she is a very serious student who doesn’t touch drugs or alcohol or really even party.   Maybe the WWU Honors College will be good if she can find some more serious peers.

    She also wants to do marching band which means either UW or UO.  She’s a 4-year marching band kiddo in HS in the top HS band in WA and has a bunch of her older classmates doing marching band at UW now.

    Anyway, it’s ultimately her decision.  I’m just tying to make sure she has enough information to make it intelligently.  If she chooses UW or WWU it means we can probably retire a year earlier than if she wants a private school.  She is a very independent and resourceful kid who doesn’t need a lot of hand holding.  So I expect she’ll be fine anywhere she goes.

    We did also go visit WSU in Pullman but that got vetoed immediately due to the location.  She was most definitely not into Pullman.  Even though I thought WSU had the nicest student facilities and amenities of any school we visited. Just fabulous labs and student resources there.  They have pumped a lot of money into it.

  117. 117.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 1:59 am

    I couldn’t go to my granddad’s funeral and haven’t been able to hug my grandma since before he died but at least this ghoul is having a nice time https://t.co/2KrDnMXGYu— Kim Kelly (@GrimKim) October 13, 2020

  118. 118.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 2:01 am

    @JaySinWA:

    Just checked my Amazon page, and the Duo I’m looking at is the 7-in-1, so it has the yogurt feature. It’s $59.99, which I think is actually an okay price, but I thought I would ride out Prime Day to see if it drops.

  119. 119.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:02 am

    @BeautifulPlumage:@Kent: based on my experiences in the 80’s & 90’s at the UW, I counsel folks to go to a smaller school then transfer. My freshman math & science classes were huge and the TA’s were overwhelmed. I went back as a junior/senior and really appreciated the smaller class sizes and breadth of experiences available.

    UW is not the same school as it was in the 80s and 90s.  I was a grad student there in the early 90s.  These days if you don’t enter as a freshman you likely aren’t getting in period as an undergrad transfer.  They don’t take a lot of transfers, especially into competitive majors.  And not at all into the selective engineering programs.  The selectivity has gone way way up in the past 20 years.  Getting into the Honors College is about like getting into Stanford.  It’s all kids with 4.0 GPA and 1550 SATs.    It is full of a lot of seriously bright undergrads these days.

  120. 120.

    sanjeevs

    October 13, 2020 at 2:03 am

    As predicted here.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-13/texas-ballot-drop-box-restrictions-reinstated-by-appeals-court

  121. 121.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 2:04 am

    Big news in Michigan: Gov. Whitmer just signed a package of bills (‘Clean Slate’) that will *automatically* expunge people’s criminal records for misdemeanors & some felonies after a period of time. So, no more need to apply or petition for relief, which can be burdensome/costly.— Taniel (@Taniel) October 12, 2020

  122. 122.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 2:05 am

    @cain:

    I’ve been there, I lived north of there for just over a decade and I’d say pretty much. But like every where else in this country it’s not 100% anything. There are a surprising number of lefties through out this country. If they all vote, it will change the face of the entire country, even if there are still some red areas.

  123. 123.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:06 am

    @JaySinWA:@Roger Moore: I think Instant Pot has gone to the worst of both worlds by having a high failure rate sophisticated local UI with a very fancy phone UI. The early reports of failures the pots after the Duo were not good. They added to the local UI and added the phone interface, increasing the chance of failure.

    I have two Instant Pots. The normal size one I use all the time, and the smaller one I bought so I could zoom cook together with my daughter who was off in college with matching equipment.  Never the slightest trouble with either one. But I mostly only ever use them in pressure mode.  I never sauté since I have a 6 burner gas stove and I don’t do rice cooking or slow cooking because I have separate rice cookers and slow cookers.  If the recipe calls for sautéing first, I just do that on the stove in a frying pan and then toss the results in the instant pot to combine.

    A phone interface would make me crazy.  I just want to hit the pressure cook button, enter the time and let it go.

  124. 124.

    CaseyL

    October 13, 2020 at 2:08 am

    @Yutsano: Rawr!

    @Kent: If your daughter winds up going to “the U,” I’d be happy to meet her and keep an eye on her!

  125. 125.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:08 am

    @Steeplejack: I haven’t been in the market for a long time, but that price seems hard to beat.

  126. 126.

    Sally

    October 13, 2020 at 2:09 am

    @NotMax: I have a very basic, old and old fashioned “pressure cooker”. I love it. I saw a book of recipes called “How a Pressure Cooker Saved my Life”. Funny. Like you, I prepare most things in it so I lessen the washing up duties. It might not have saved my life, but it saved me from eating cornflakes for dinner! We have recently converted to induction cooking, so I will have to buy a new model that is not aluminium.

  127. 127.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 2:11 am

    @Kent:

    She also wants to do marching band which means either UW or UO.

    UW! Absolutely tell her to go to UW. The band director is an old friend of mine. He will absolutely make sure she has the time of her life. Not to mention she will most likely have a chance at doing a bowl game. It was one of the most thrilling experiences when I was in college.

    EDIT: did she actually get to meet the band director? I imagine that could be a fruitful conversation. Not to mention he could walk her through the long storied history of the band and maybe even meet a few of the players. I may have been a Coug but I had a few chances to play with the UW band and oh man that was fun!

  128. 128.

    Mike E

    October 13, 2020 at 2:14 am

    @Morzer: Here’s the data parsed by our local political scientists

    NC is actually purple, and trending to blue

  129. 129.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:14 am

    @sanjeevs:  As predicted here.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-13/texas-ballot-drop-box-restrictions-reinstated-by-appeals-court

    This right here is why we need to desperately pack the fucking courts from top down.   Not Roe which can be fixed by legislation.  But this, right here.  To prevent this sort of flagrant racist evil from continuing.

    What the fuck do these people actually think?  If we don’t have free and fair elections, the only way to bring about change is by force.   Is that what they really want?  To be gunned down in the street like it is Syria or Iraq?

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 2:14 am

    @Yutsano

    Nowadays they probably march with tubas that connect to the internet.

    :)

  131. 131.

    joel hanes

    October 13, 2020 at 2:15 am

    It’s a terrifying moment in American history.

    Perhaps this will help explain where we are in the plot:

    https://www.gocomics.com/tomtoles/2020/10/11

    Tom Toles is retiring.  He’s been doing wonderful work for decades, and I’m going to miss him.

  132. 132.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:16 am

    @CaseyL:

    @Yutsano: Rawr!

    @Kent: If your daughter winds up going to “the U,” I’d be happy to meet her and keep an eye on her!

    Thanks!   I’ll keep you all posted.  She submitted the application last weekend.  But won’t hear until March.

  133. 133.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 2:16 am

    @NotMax:

    I’ve had a cell phone for 20 yrs and I still can’t see the need to hook everything to it. Or pretty much anything. The new ones are a lot nicer though.

  134. 134.

    Gary K

    October 13, 2020 at 2:18 am

    @TiredOfItAll: So McCain’s mom was born before the Oyster Bar?

  135. 135.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:19 am

    @Kent: Even in the 70’s I couldn’t transfer to UW from a JC after one year. They did admit a few 2 year JC degree transfers as I recall, but I couldn’t get the courses I needed for that to work for me. So yes if UW is the end all be all for an undergraduate degree, you need to start there.
    So in a sense WWU was a safety school for me. Economics drove me to a JC to start and kept me from UW.

  136. 136.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 2:19 am

    @Mike E:  Is it just me or is the blue tsunami going to be even bigger than we expect?

    @NotMax: Heh. Ask me how much booze I can hide in a tuba.

  137. 137.

    Ruckus

    October 13, 2020 at 2:20 am

    @HumboldtBlue:

    I don’t think he was all that impressive as a presidential candidate. Nothing wrong with him, I just wasn’t that impressed. His quick and wicked wit now is very appreciated though. I’d bet he gets something good in the new administration. Man, not having to spell maladministration for much longer is great……

  138. 138.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 13, 2020 at 2:21 am

    @NotMax: Was the leg o’ lamb ever frozen?  Was it tempting to whack someone over the head with it?

  139. 139.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:21 am

    @Yutsano:

    UW! Absolutely tell her to go to UW. The band director is an old friend of mine. He will absolutely make sure she has the time of her life. Not to mention she will most likely have a chance at doing a bowl game. It was one of the most thrilling experiences when I was in college.

    EDIT: did she actually get to meet the band director? I imagine that could be a fruitful conversation. Not to mention he could walk her through the long storied history of the band and maybe even meet a few of the players. I may have been a Coug but I had a few chances to play with the UW band and oh man that was fun!

    She has done Husky Band day for the past 3 years where a bunch of WA HS marching bands all go and play together at half time.  They spend all day up there practicing with the Husky Band and then perform at night.  I know they spend all day with the Husky Band director but I’m not exactly sure what they do because I’d rather put a bullet in my head than volunteer to be a parent chaperone all day.   My wife and I send the kids up on the school band bus and then show up ourselves for game time with top quality StubHub tickets rather than sitting in the nose bleed section with the band.

    It was heartbreaking to have it canceled this year due to the fucking pandemic.   Especially because my 9th grader is now on the band too, and this season was the only season they were going to have to play together on the same band.   They shifted the WA HS football and marching band season to the spring.  Hopefully the schools will be re-opened by then so they can at least have that experience together.  But no Husky Band Day

    I do know that her band director at Camas HS and the Husky band director are very old and best friends and that Camas is their biggest pipeline for Husky band members.  They send a bunch every year.  Camas has the largest HS marching band in WA.  It’s huge here.

  140. 140.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 2:22 am

    @Ruckus:  One thing that will help her odds: the University of Washington is required to accept 70% of their incoming class from in state students. It’s still MAJORLY competitive however.

    If nothing else: I got in. So she should be a shoo-in.

  141. 141.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 2:23 am

    @Yutsano

    There’s a joke in there to be teased out about Beethoven’s fifth, but am too relaxed and lazy to work out the details.

  142. 142.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 2:24 am

    @JaySinWA:

    Reminder that it is the three-quart model, but that does seem like a good price. If it drops at all on Prime Day I’m in. Hell, I’ll probably get it afterwards anyway. Been considering one for a while.

  143. 143.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 2:25 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    That would necessitate a bone-in leg.

    Right tool for the right job and all that.

    :)

  144. 144.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:26 am

    @Yutsano:

    @Ruckus:  One thing that will help her odds: the University of Washington is required to accept 70% of their incoming class from in state students. It’s still MAJORLY competitive however.

    If nothing else: I got in. So she should be a shoo-in.

    I’m hoping and expecting that she’ll get in.  She has like a 3.98 GPA (one A- is her only blemish) and high SATs which they aren’t using this year but lots of activities.  And she is just applying for the general college of arts and sciences, not engineering or business.  But their acceptance rate is now below 40% for in-state students.  But one never knows.  College is way more competitive than it was in our day.

  145. 145.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 2:27 am

    Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

    Fahad, Azim, Nancy and Helen have tested positive. The Covidiot that murdered Samaya was a superspreader. Store is closed. Everybody is now in isolation.

    Fucking assholes.

    At least contract, test and trace lets me know the bastard I need to murder.

  146. 146.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:27 am

    @JaySinWA: I should add that I have never regretted getting my degree from WWU. It opened an important door for my career.

  147. 147.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 2:28 am

    @Sally:

    We have recently converted to induction cooking [. . .].

    Did you get an induction range or just a single-burner unit? The latter is something I have considered to augment my mediocre apartment electric range.

  148. 148.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:29 am

    @Jay: Wait what?  Nancy?  For a second I thought you meant Pelosi.  Until I read your post again.  These are people you work with?

  149. 149.

    clay

    October 13, 2020 at 2:29 am

    Say, how does one submit pet photos?  I’ve got a great one…

  150. 150.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:29 am

    @Steeplejack: I missed the 3 quart. That is probably too limiting.

  151. 151.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 13, 2020 at 2:30 am

    @NotMax: I feared it was boneless.  Boneless is no good for a bonk on the brain.

  152. 152.

    Chetan Murthy

    October 13, 2020 at 2:31 am

    @Jay: Words fail, Jay.  I’m sorry for your friends and hope that they recover from this.  Words fail.  So sorry.

  153. 153.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 2:33 am

    @JaySinWA:

    Just cooking for one person. And it’s a proof-of-concept test. If it goes well, I could see myself getting a big one later.

  154. 154.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:33 am

    @sanjeevs: If we actually had a functioning post office then they could put special dedicated ballot mail drop boxes in front of every single post office and there would be NOTHING that the state could do about it, because it’s the Federal mail and not under state control.

    That would be one of my first acts if I was advising Biden.  Make the USPS completely accommodate voting in every state by doing dedicated mail drop boxes for ballots in front of every post office.   That wouldn’t even require any legislation and not a damn thing any state could do about it.  There must be several dozen post offices in the greater Houston area.

  155. 155.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:38 am

    @mrmoshpotato: It is if it’s frozen.

  156. 156.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:39 am

    @Steeplejack: I have a single burner induction unit (Rosewell but I don’t recommend the brand, it’s okay but there are probably better quality units). It works well for a number of tasks. We use it as a replacement for a dangerously bad stove top burner. Don’t count on the temp control setting on any of them, they are highly erratic from what I can determine. Ours certainly is. But instant heat and instant off are gas equivalent. The power cycling is like microwave or furnace, at least on mine is on full and off for a percent of the time. A simmer plate can help moderate things for lower temp cooking.

  157. 157.

    Yutsano

    October 13, 2020 at 2:39 am

    @Jay:

    At least contract, test and trace lets me know the bastard I need to murder.

    Jay…I know you’re angry, frustrated, and lonely. But please consider that your (justifiable!) anger is clouding your judgment here. If you know who the source is, it’s better to focus on helping the others get better. But channeling that anger into productive energy is better for your soul.

  158. 158.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 2:40 am

    @Kent:

    yeah, my peeps,

    we already have 3 deaths in the store.

    the latest outbreak, killed a wonderful young girl of 23, and from that we have now four more sick. So the store is closed, everybody is now in isolation, 125 people.

    All because some shithead decided to go shopping while waiting for the results of their Sars Covid 19 test.

  159. 159.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 13, 2020 at 2:40 am

    @Steeplejack: FYI, you can use cast iron on an induction “burner.”

  160. 160.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 13, 2020 at 2:43 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Hmmmmm……I’m more of a purist when it comes to a blow to the head via frozen meat.

  161. 161.

    TS (the original)

    October 13, 2020 at 2:44 am

    @Jay:

    Surely that has to cost him some votes. Pure evil.

  162. 162.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 2:44 am

    @Yutsano:

    thank you,

    yeah, I know,

    but its hard,

    I want vengeance, yunno

  163. 163.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:45 am

    @Steeplejack: Even cooking for one, (we cook for two) I wonder if the 3 quart would just be frustrating. I don’t know if the 3 quart allows you to use less liquid, but I doubt it, and it will limit any pot in pot capability that can do smaller batches. Perhaps our 3 quart and 6 quart experienced commenter can chime in.

  164. 164.

    TS (the original)

    October 13, 2020 at 2:45 am

    @sanjeevs:

    They are scared.  Texas going blue.

  165. 165.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 2:46 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Absolutely, cast iron and induction work well together.

    ETA Cast iron can be a issue with glass tops and induction burners are usually if not always glass tops. You need to exercise care with heavy cast iron. Dropping or scrapping can crack or scratch the surface.

  166. 166.

    jl

    October 13, 2020 at 2:47 am

    ” HELLO JUICERS! ”

    Hi, John.

  167. 167.

    Kent

    October 13, 2020 at 2:51 am

    @TS (the original):

    @sanjeevs:

    They are scared.  Texas going blue.

    I’m hoping that since Harris County is now in Democratic hands, they will at least have less fuckery on election day and during early in-person voting.  It is just fucking endless with these people.  I’m starting to understand just maybe 5% of the frustration that Black people must have felt living in the south back in the day.  Or even today for that matter.  With just the endless and relentless fuckery.

  168. 168.

    TS (the original)

    October 13, 2020 at 2:52 am

    The GOP  now governs through the courts. They did it with Obama & they will do it with Biden.  The vote of the people is becoming meaningless to those who are raised with the right to rule.

  169. 169.

    Amir Khalid

    October 13, 2020 at 2:55 am

    Hmm. Anwar Ibrahim, leader of Parti Keadilan Rakyat (the People’s Justice Party) and chairman of Pakatan Keadilan Rakyat (the People’s Justice Coalition) has just come from an audience with the Yang di Pertuan Agung (king) wherein he submitted what he calls convincing proof that he commands a majority of parliamentary support and should therefore be PM.

    We join as the ongoing soap opera reaches a cliffhanger. Anwar built a coalition that had obvious cracks in it from day one, and had to let his old nemesis Dr Mahathir become its leader — with a promise that  Dr M would, insha’Allah, step aside in two years at finally let him become PM. That coalition won the 2018 general election because of the public’s disgust with Najib’s epic corruption. Surprise, surprise, Dr M did not step aside, and in the ensuing melée (which took place just as the pandemic was breaking out, and delayed the nation’s response) Muhyiddin Yassin outmanœuvred Anwar to grab the PM’s job.

    Anwar is hinting at his post-audience media conference that His Majesty should, upon being persuaded of Anwar’s case, require Muhyiddin’s resignation and then presumably make Anwar PM.(He won’t say it outright because it would look indecorous, but it’s obvious what he means.)

    I don’t have a very good feeling about the strength of any coalition built by Anwar, having seen two of them collapse from obvious internal weaknesses a decade apart. I would prefer to see him win a general election, with a coalition that isn’t obviously going to crumble in two years because of inter-party squabbling, before he moves to that nice big house he covets in Putrajaya.

    I am also pretty sure that, with new Covid-19 cases surging, many of my fellow Malaysians would (like me) rather the nation dealt with that first and left the struggle for the PM’s position for later.

  170. 170.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 2:56 am

    @Jay:

    Sorry to hear it. Was the superspreader a customer or (I guess more likely) a coworker?

    I hope you stay negative.

  171. 171.

    frosty

    October 13, 2020 at 2:56 am

    @JaySinWA: We use a 6-qt at home and a 3-qt in our trailer when we’re on the road. 3-qt is fine for two people.

  172. 172.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:01 am

    @JaySinWA:

    Thanks for the info. Just at the research stage now.

  173. 173.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:03 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Yeah, I knew that. I think one of my other pans is induction-compatible, but I haven’t checked it (with a magnet).

  174. 174.

    Sally

    October 13, 2020 at 3:04 am

    @Steeplejack: I have an induction cooktop with four “regions”, each pair can be joined for long pans, skillets, roasting dishes. Any size or shape of pot works, as long as it’s magnetic. I love love love it. Faster than gas, super sensitive (like me!), and can be programmed to turn down or off, and pause. Turns off if it detects extreme temp of a boiled dry pot. So easy to keep spotless, quickly wipe up spills, and doubles as bench top. Wouldn’t have anything else. More expensive though. No, I do not receive a commission!

    ETA Mine is excellent for low temp melting butter, chocolate, cooking sauces, no Bain Marie required.

  175. 175.

    SWMBO

    October 13, 2020 at 3:06 am

    @Steeplejack: We have a standard coil electric freestanding cookstove.  I bought an Instant Pot and a single burner induction unit with its own pot for use after a hurricane.  Wanted to try the induction out because our old stove is moaning and staggering and about to keel over. Both take a lot less energy in case we need to cook off an electric generator.  Last time we lost power for about 10 days as I recall.  Getting gas for the generator wasn’t horrible but our generator won’t power an electric stove. And I cook a lot with cast iron.  Induction would not cause a budget busting redo of my cookware if I go to an induction stove.

    @Sally  My sister has an induction stove.  Be careful.  She nearly fried her cell phone on a burner that was set to low and she forgot it when she took the pan off.

  176. 176.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 3:11 am

    @Steeplejack:

    customer. We are supposedly still in “phase three, lockdown”.

    it’s bullshit.

    from day 1 people were “recreationally shopping”, consumerism, even though people were supposed to stay home.

    fucking morons.

  177. 177.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 3:12 am

    @frosty: Thanks, does the 3 quart allow for less liquid? The 1.5 cup liquid requirement could be a problem for small batch cooking I think.

  178. 178.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:15 am

    @Sally:

    Cool, thanks for the feedback. As I constantly redesign my imaginary dream home I have come to think that I would like induction, for the reasons you mention and also because of the lower risk of an accidental fire.

  179. 179.

    Mary G

    October 13, 2020 at 3:15 am

    @Jay: I’m so sorry. That’s terrible. Please take care of yourself, and keep the murder hypothetical.

  180. 180.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:17 am

    @JaySinWA:

    I’ve read that the three-quart has a proportionally smaller liquid requirement.

  181. 181.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 3:22 am

    @Yutsano:

    it’s tough.

    I can’t go to work.

    I have to be away from my wife and pets for another 12 days,

    I can’t go to the unhoused camps or the protests, to provide medical aid.

    Angry birds on a cell phone ain’t cutting it.

  182. 182.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 3:22 am

    @JaySinWA

    One cup liquid is the instruction manual standard for the three quart pot, but with some recipes one can sneak by with less.

    Still find it amusing that fresh asparagus turn out perfectly when I set the timer on pressure cooking to zero minutes.

  183. 183.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 3:24 am

    @Jay: I am sorry for the people you have lost. I don’t have anything constructive to say so I have been silent.

  184. 184.

    Amir Khalid

    October 13, 2020 at 3:25 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Now Istana Negara (the National Palace) has just issued a statement saying Anwar claimed a Parliamentary majority to His Majesty, but didn’t name the members of Parliament supporting him. It looks like Anwar’s claim isn’t going anywhere until he does.

  185. 185.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 3:25 am

    @Mary G:

    thank you,

    just really pissed off,

  186. 186.

    Jay

    October 13, 2020 at 3:30 am

    @JaySinWA:

    thank you.

  187. 187.

    BeautifulPlumage

    October 13, 2020 at 3:31 am

    @Kent: I did enter as a freshman, and now see that’s probably the reason I was allowed back in (twice!).

    Sounds like she’ll do well in any academic situation, and I wish her the best!

  188. 188.

    JaySinWA

    October 13, 2020 at 3:33 am

    @NotMax: True, you can sneak by with 1 cup for the 6 quart for some recipes, so less than 1 for the 3 quart would be on par. It is good to know that it requires less to pressurize but it isn’t half. I would still opt for 6 q and not 3 for greater flexibility.

  189. 189.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 3:34 am

    Heh. If you have access to the free Xumo streaming channel, a featured panel just popped up on the Roku home screen for something there called “Baby Animals Marathon.”

  190. 190.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2020 at 3:36 am

    @Amir Khalid: A saw a news thing about the going ons in Malaysia, was wondering what your take would be.

  191. 191.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:38 am

    Well played, Amazon.

    Just went to the Amazon main page to check the Prime Day specials in general and saw that they have the three-quart Instant Pot Mini Ultra for $49.99. That’s a great price, but now I need to redo a bit of my research, because I pretty much ruled out the Ultra very early because it was so expensive. I don’t object to extra features that I might not use at this price, but I want to check reliability, potential UI issues, etc.

  192. 192.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 3:44 am

    @JaySinWA

    In my case it’s more a matter of simply not having the physical space available for the bigger unit.

    And, as in Steeplejack’s case, am cooking for one so any limitations accompanying the smaller size aren’t much of a concern.

  193. 193.

    jl

    October 13, 2020 at 3:45 am

    @TS (the original): I’d love for Texas to go blue, but right now seems a stretch. But if it’s close, that will draw resources away from other states.

    My little pre-election hobby is watching AZ, FL, and NC, hoping their increasing spread is a turning point. They start counting early in-person and mail votes long before election day. If Biden wins, they’ll get election results out election night, or within a day or two. Too quick for deviltry. When I did electoral college map, with other states current lean, that gives Biden 287, with MI, PA, and WI going Trump (which is extremely unlikely).

    Anyway, that would be my favorite scenario. I figure MI, PA and WI are where Trumpsters will try to steal the election, since, unless legislation can pass quickly, they don’t do anything with their early ‘absentee by mail’ vote until election day.

    Would be nice to see all the Brooks Brothers’ rioters, thug poll watchers, and the armies of sleazy lawyers trudging home, since no point to it anymore if enough states can call it within a day or two of Nov 3. If my dream scenario transpires, I  hope to see plenty of B-rolls.

    Likely to be attempts to sabotage early voting in AZ, FL and NC. But AZ has an elected D secty for state, NC has D gov and elected D secty of state. So, FL is the place to watch. But there will be time to beat back any legal BS before election day.

    And encouraging that, from a couple of news stories I read, some of the Trumpster cases are so sad, that Trump appointed judges are throwing them out with prejudice.

    Cross our fingers and wish us luck.

  194. 194.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:45 am

    @NotMax:

    My kitchen is small too. That is a factor.

  195. 195.

    JWR

    October 13, 2020 at 3:46 am

    @sanjeevs: From your link, (and… oh fer f*cks sake!)

    “The three-judge appellate panel — all appointed by President Donald Trump — accepted Abbott’s claim that multiple drop boxes create opportunities for voter fraud, although the state presented no evidence such fraud exists. The judges said no proof of actual voter fraud was necessary to justify the state’s protective measures.”

    Memories of Donald Rumsfeld’s “unknown unknowns” BS.

  196. 196.

    Amir Khalid

    October 13, 2020 at 3:46 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Anwar is easily the most nakedly ambitious person in Malaysian politics, and he wants to be PM so bad that everyone can taste it; but for over two decades now he’s been coming up a day late and a dollar short. I don’t think he’ll ever be PM.

  197. 197.

    jl

    October 13, 2020 at 3:49 am

    @JWR: Yeah, that’s the problem, even if 95% of judges appointed by any president would throw out obvious Trumpster BS, they can appeal until you get to some totally corrupt Trump judges.

  198. 198.

    jl

    October 13, 2020 at 3:52 am

    OTOH, from what I see in the news, early voting is off to an epic start. Will be a huge number of D votes in the bank on election day, just need to get them counted.

    No hanging chads or butterfly ballots this time. So, how far can judges stretch? Trump judges who are not insane fanatics and have an eye on the long game may call McConnell for advice

  199. 199.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 3:55 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    I know very little of the situation, but even from a distance it looks like Anwar’s timing is epically bad.

    “[. . .] he wants to be PM so bad that everyone can taste it  [. . .].” Great line!

  200. 200.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 3:58 am

    @Steeplejack

    If there’s a good one on sale price as well, you might consider also getting a steamer basket made to fit the three quart pot.

    I also eventually sprang for a second inner pot (that one with a non-stick coating), mostly for occasions when I make stews or suchlike and want to make a mess o’ rice or pasta to go with them.

  201. 201.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 4:03 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Well, Mini Pot Ultra it is! Glowing review from The Wirecutter, and their main complaint was the price, which has been slashed by Prime Day.

    I am happy to report this concludes my Prime Day shopping. Only one item on my list, mission accomplished, and I’m not really cut out for all this conspicuous consumerism.

  202. 202.

    NotMax

    October 13, 2020 at 4:06 am

    @Steeplejack

    Woo-hoo! Welcome to the club.

  203. 203.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 4:06 am

    @NotMax:

    Thanks for the reminder. Both of those were on my ancillary shopping list.

  204. 204.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 13, 2020 at 4:15 am

    We love our guv.

    While I’m surprised to see someone who slapped his name on a Chicago skyscraper say ‘Illinois has no place to go,’ I want to offer @realDonaldTrump five exciting places to go in the great state of Illinois. https://t.co/VvC53OwDPt— JB Pritzker (@JBPritzker) October 12, 2020

  205. 205.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2020 at 4:15 am

    @NotMax:

    Woo-hoo! Welcome to the club cult.

  206. 206.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 4:18 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Why, I oughta . . .

  207. 207.

    TS (the original)

    October 13, 2020 at 4:22 am

    @jl:

    My little pre-election hobby is watching AZ, FL, and NC

    You might be able to explain to me why there is often a wide variation between the senate & the president figures. Looking at recent polls

    NC Senate – Dem +10
    NC President – Dem +2 or +4

    AZ Senate – Dem +8 or +9
    AZ President – Dem +4

    I still have hope for Texas. 538 has trump +1.5 & the GOP are fighting through the courts to retain their voter suppression options. Biden’s lead has been increasing every day since the debate.  If there is an October surprise coming it has to be half the GOP Senate getting covid.

  208. 208.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2020 at 4:24 am

    @Steeplejack: I’ve had one for almost 2 years, welcome to the IP cult.

  209. 209.

    Steeplejack

    October 13, 2020 at 4:26 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Do you have the three-quart or the six-quart?

  210. 210.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2020 at 4:29 am

    @Steeplejack: 6 quart.

  211. 211.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 13, 2020 at 4:35 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Cool.

    I’m off to bed. Shopping is exhausting!

  212. 212.

    jl

    October 13, 2020 at 4:44 am

    @TS (the original): What pollster wonks I’ve read say is that many of the remaining Trumpsters hate the standard issue GOP pol as much as Democrats do. That puzzles me since GOP pols are abject funkies who do Trump’s bidding. But, Trumpsters think funny, IMHO. Maybe they all have the Lindsey stench syndrome, being contemptible hypocritical chickenshits.

    As long as the margins hold up and turnout delivers a win, I don’t care if one is bigger than the other.

  213. 213.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    October 13, 2020 at 4:50 am

    @Jay:

    Pendley has simply decided that, no, he won’t leave actually, in defiance of the federal court ruling

    The judge has made his decision. Now let him enforce it.

     

    @Jay:

  214. 214.

    West of the Rockies

    October 13, 2020 at 4:51 am

    @NotMax:

    I LOVE that image!

  215. 215.

    jl

    October 13, 2020 at 5:08 am

    @jl: I meant ‘in person absentee’ early voting, or whatever they call their goofy early voting systems.

  216. 216.

    JAFD

    October 13, 2020 at 5:27 am

    @Ruckus: My sympathy.  I eventually got one of those 7-day pillboxes, so I can check if I’ve taken today’s pills [I ain’t a morning person]

    Of course, you could be taking the ‘water pills’ that wake you up and send you to the bathroom every two hours of the night.  OTOH, the glaucoma-preventing eyedrops I’ve been prescribed have the side effect, I’m told, of making your eyelashes grow…

    An old man grumbleth this morn.  Then decides to have another cup’o tea

    Have great day, everyone !

  217. 217.

    satby

    October 13, 2020 at 6:10 am

    @Mary G: Is it bad form for me to say “I told people so?” Because we sure took a lot of online shit for supporting the guy.

  218. 218.

    zhena gogolia

    October 13, 2020 at 7:32 am

    @satby:

    Yes, I’ve been thinking of you as the encomiums roll in. He was always this good, they just didn’t bother to listen.

  219. 219.

    Another Scott

    October 13, 2020 at 8:38 am

    @Ruckus:  Our new HVAC system has an “app”. I thought it was a gimmick, but it’s actually handy. It gives more info (or more easily accessible info) than the touch screen and is nice for adjusting the setpoint when outside and checking for noises or whatever, changing settings from a different room, etc.

    Progress?

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  220. 220.

    gvg

    October 13, 2020 at 9:11 am

    @Jay: when you said Nancy, I thought Pelosi and I freaked. Sorry for your friends, keep us informed.

  221. 221.

    bluefoot

    October 13, 2020 at 9:42 am

    @Jay: Yep.  My mom died at the beginning of April right when NY was doing serious stay at home restrictions.  We couldn’t have a funeral, and now we don’t know when we will be able to.  My sister has an autoimmune disease that (according to her doctors) pretty much guarantees she will die if she gets COVID, and most of my mother’s friends are elderly.  So no funeral until there’s a widely distributed vaccine.

    Also McConnell: that malignant sociopathic f*cker, laughing while over 200,000 die and many, many more suffer.

  222. 222.

    bluefoot

    October 13, 2020 at 9:47 am

    @Jay: I’m sorry.  Selfish idiots like your superspreader should be put in jail (or at least fined and confined at home) for assault and negligent homicide.  Or minimally conspiracy to commit murder.

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    a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio

    October 13, 2020 at 11:01 am

    @Kent: This choice of majors probably means graduate school afterwards, and I have to say the University of Washington is more likely to offer her faculty with good insights into where she should go once she graduates.

    Many years ago, my father taught chemistry at what’s now MST, and it was his observation that there are a lot of places where you can get a good handle on the basics, but you needed an insider’s view on good places for graduate school.

  224. 224.

    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2020 at 11:35 am

    @Mary G: That was a great article.  I read every word.

  225. 225.

    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2020 at 11:47 am

    @clay:  Everything you need to know about photos for the BJ pet calendar is in this post:

    https://balloon-juice.com/2020/10/10/submit-your-2021-pet-calendar-pics/

  226. 226.

    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2020 at 11:51 am

    @mrmoshpotato:  My guess was “prisons” but I guess the tourism plus and the shade was good, too.

  227. 227.

    J R in WV

    October 13, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @JAFD:

    OTOH, the glaucoma-preventing eyedrops I’ve been prescribed have the side effect, I’m told, of making your eyelashes grow…

    That’s an interesting side effect. My glaucoma eye drops will slowly change the color of my eyes to brown. Starting with hazel. So far not much visible change to me, but it’s supposed to be so gradual, maybe I’m just not seeing it.

  228. 228.

    No One You Know

    October 13, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    @Jay: Jay, I am late to thread, as always, but I am so sorry.

    I’m specializing in chess tutorials because i can’t abide angry birds. I can get that at the feeders…

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