Because it is often difficult to project strength through a gesture of vulnerability. https://t.co/dnEMjwEOqb
— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) October 17, 2020
Biden’s town hall drew almost a million more viewers than Trump’s, according to early TV ratings.
The figures are particularly surprising given Biden's town hall aired on just one network, whereas Trump's was simulcast across three. https://t.co/AaG0gGH2ee
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 16, 2020
‘He's still living in a dream world,’ Joe Biden attacked President Trump on his handling of COVID-19 while campaigning in Michigan pic.twitter.com/kYLlsMcwH4
— Reuters (@Reuters) October 17, 2020
Democratic enthusiasm and the coronavirus have led to record-setting early voting in the 2020 election. More than 17 million people have voted, about 12% of all votes cast in 2016. Experts predict this election’s turnout could be the highest since 1908. https://t.co/6N6Qofhfsy
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) October 16, 2020
Obama to campaign for Biden in Philadelphia on October 21 https://t.co/ND8YXzuREo pic.twitter.com/KRvX9i8shH
— Reuters (@Reuters) October 17, 2020
OzarkHillbilly
Blech.
Wanderer
Joe Biden for the win!!
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: It’s funny, all these sites tell you to carefully assemble all your components and follow the design. My tendency is to build it as I go and scrounge what I have. I used the line on the blocks to level the table since there is a 4 inch drop on the floor. We had another table there and had forgotten there was an outlet on that wall. Now I have to figure out a bottom shelf and the plumbing but it came out ok.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: That’ll make her happy. Now I want one.
JPL
The crew is having trump read from a prepared scripts. They did that before the last election also, but this time it won’t work. He’s going to bring his super spreader events to MI and WI today.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: She does like it, it’s 43 inches on the high side and she did a bunch of flower arranging and that height was good. Even a blind squirrel!
JPL
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I just saw a clip and I’m in tears.
eclare
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I’m DVRing the repeat tonight. I’m sure seeing it will provoke a range of emotions.
OzarkHillbilly
QAnon: a timeline of violence linked to the conspiracy theory
These people:
Off their meds, definitely off their meds.
Jeffro
He’s “joking” about having to leave the country.
My day is MADE! =)
OzarkHillbilly
That is one intelligent animal, couldn’t have said it better myself.
Sloane Ranger
@OzarkHillbilly: In an earlier time these people would be confined to a hospital where they could receive help.
I was in favour of mental health reform but now I’m not so sure. It has become a way to save money, not help people in the community.
Jack Canuck
Open thread, so I’ll put in a link to a new song I’ve just finished called ‘Before’ on my Soundcloud page. Lyrics inspired by the crazy year we’ve had, but not a political song. It’s been frustrating: I’ve spent so much time at home (thirteen weeks of ‘remote learning’ with my high school students), but gotten so little music done. The instruments and gear have been sitting there, in the same room I’ve been working in, but I just haven’t had the energy or fire for it. But I did get this one written, and finally recorded it during the recent break between terms 3 and 4.
Cheryl Rofer
I disagree with that first tweet:
Acknowledging one’s vulnerability is a strong thing to do. Insisting that one is invulnerable in the face of facts that say otherwise is weak. We have gotten so accustomed to bluster, going back to Reagan, but particularly since W and intensified by the current occupant of the White House, that we’ve forgotten this.
Trump has also painted vulnerability, and the willingness to acknowledge it, as feminine, something Real Men™ don’t do. It was fairly easy for him, since it dovetailed with social currents. One more thing that Biden is turning around.
Geminid
I went camping in South Carolina this week and saw a good editorial in the Charlston Post and Courier. It turns out that the oil drilling moratorium for South Carolina coastal waters recently ordered by trump included a ban on wind energy projects. The editors cited the many local businesses invested in wind energy, including a Charlston turbine manufacturer. Basically they called the ban gratuitously stupid, and commended Democratic Congressman Joe Cunningham for his efforts to reverse it. In 2018 Cunningham flipped the SC 1st Distict, Republican-held for decades, in part because of his anti-drilling, pro wind power platform. An example of clean energy gathering support for its economic as well as environmental benefits. Sabato’s Crystal Ball recently changed SC 1st from tossup to lead D; Cook still has it a tossup.
Ken
That may explain why I haven’t heard of any temper tantrums about the town hall ratings.
Villago Delenda Est
@Sloane Ranger: The thing is, in the 70’s there was a movement afoot to end the “snake pits” of mental institutions. The idea was to get a lot of those disturbed out of them where they were basically warehoused and forgotten. The idea was to provide treatment for them “on the streets” and guide them to living something like normal lives with a great deal of assistance.
Ronald Reagan’s minions saw an opportunity to move the money that was supposed to go to this idea and turn it over to defense contractors instead, and so with the former institutionalized out on the streets with no support, we got a huge homelessness crisis that has not abated with people who are untreated for very real illnesses.
One of the many reasons why Rethuglicans cannot govern, and don’t care that they can’t govern.
debbie
@JPL:
Except he goes off-script very quickly. I doubt the bit about kissing everyone (except ugly women, of course) or the threat about leaving the country if he loses showed up in any of Stephen Miller’s notes.
OzarkHillbilly
This is brutal: How Trade Policy Failed U.S. Workers— and How to Fix It
debbie
@Villago Delenda Est:
I was thinking the very same thing, then did the math and saw the two individuals were too young to fit that. I think what it is now is too much grass and too many psychedelics.
Villago Delenda Est
@debbie: Indeed, you can’t rein Donald in like that. He can’t be managed, he’ll do whatever he wants to do at that moment with no care about what that does to him down the road. It’s his nature, and his minders are fools if they think otherwise. His minders were actually hired on the basis of being fools in the first place. “All the best people”, you know.
Villago Delenda Est
@debbie: The old system at least identified the mentally ill. Now we don’t bother, because it might mean that taxes go up on such parasites as the DeVos klan, the Koches, or the Mercers.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
And yet, there Pence was this week, pointing out how great Trump had been for some tractor company! Even now, small businesses are going under because the GOP would rather bail out the airline industry than the countless small businesses that employ many more people.
p.a.
Has Bill ‘have another donut’* Barr been seen lately?
*NHL fans my get reference
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/121503-jim-schoenfeld-have-another-donut
Anya
@Geminid: This gave me so much hope.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
MagdaInBlack
@debbie: More likely meth and/ or alcohol
Eta: trust me on this: weed doesn’t make you that agitated =-)
danielx
@OzarkHillbilly:
@raven:
I wrote down a date this past week because I was so amazed and pleasantly (for once) surprised: I actually got an out of warranty power tool repaired for no charge! I would have paid, but was totally shocked when it didn’t cost me anything. Bosch rules!
Also too – when I read that bit about Trump leaving the country if he loses, my immediate reaction was: you promise? Not that a Trump promise means anything.
Geminid
@OzarkHillbilly: trump’s steel tariffs did help domestic steel manufacturers. But there are ~20 steel fabrication jobs for every steel production job, and the rise in steel (and aluminum) cost hurt steel fabricators. The same with aluminum.
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
JPL
@debbie: A robot would do a better job anyway. CNN is showing a clip and trump is talking about pain, but he drones on and on without any emotion.
debbie
@MagdaInBlack:
It’s not like the old days, when smoking your brains out just made you goofy; there’s some mean shit going around now. I had to stop.
eclare
@danielx: I have a Bosch dishwasher that came with a five year warranty. In year four something happened to the control panel, repaired free of charge.
debbie
@JPL:
I’d love to see Trump using a random word generator.
MagdaInBlack
@debbie: That has not been my current experience. These days one knows what one is getting., at a dispensary. Not like the $25 oz bought from a buddy with no clue where it came from. Yes, I’m old enough to remember a $25 oz. Ouch =-
Eta: God bless Gov Pritzker.
debbie
Has Ivanka shown any desperation in her appearances? Her hopes of being the next president seem to be diminishing.
debbie
@MagdaInBlack:
Hell, I remember when nickel bags were actually nickel bags. I guess I have a real sensitivity to THC; when I tried what I have come to call Death Weed, I hallucinated and was up all night. That ended it for me.
RandomMonster
@debbie: Isn’t that called “his brain”?
Immanentize
@debbie: It could be that the FBI etc. Have warned that there is some random violence likely around the election and they don’t want any viddy clip of Trump calling on his followers to LIBERATE! some place where people are later killed.
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
Yet, they will contort themselves to find a way to vote for Dolt45 ?
rikyrah
TRUTH ???
rikyrah
MagdaInBlack
@debbie: LOL @ Death Weed. OY! I’m sorry you had that experience. Me, it helps with depression and allows me to sleep…really well.
debbie
@rikyrah:
They’ve even ticked off Jonah Goldberg:
John S.
@debbie: That can definitely happen, and it’s absolutely related to the THC. But as MagdaInBlack pointed out, dispensaries really have this stuff down to a science.
You can identify strain, THC%, etc. with absolute clarity.
OzarkHillbilly
@danielx: Back when they still produced quality US made tools I was a devout Porter Cable customer. These days, it’s Bosch.
rikyrah
On COVID-19 alone she should have won
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: Death Weed… Sounds like the dipper I got passed back in the 70s. Never smoked dope again.
debbie
@John S.:
Understood.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
Exactly! One of my brothers sent me some because I was having trouble falling asleep on Sunday nights. I just took a couple hits and was up all night, feeling like I’d dropped acid (which I had also quit years before). I still like the smell of it though, but that’s as far as I’ll take it.
danielx
@OzarkHillbilly:
Bosch multitool with about 20 hours on it. One of those tools where you don’t need it often, but when you do there’s no substitute.
OzarkHillbilly
@danielx: I’ve only used one once, but it turned a 30-45 min endurance trial into a 2 minute breeze. A wonderful tool.
JMG
I drove 110 miles yesterday to be here to vote on first day of early voting, as we’re still registered in Lexington and not the Cape. Polls open at 10. Wish it was 9.
PS: I am old enough to remember when it was $15 for an ounce. Alas, that’s also so old that if I go past three glasses of wine at dinner, I am a wreck the next morning.
Geminid
@Anya: the South Carolina 1st Congressional District might still be in republican hands had incumbent Mark Sanford not been knocked out in 2018 by a tea party type challenger, who then lost to Cunninham by less than 4,000 votes. Sanford was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus, had voted with trump down the line, but he criticized trump for his divisive rhetoric, so trump endorsed the challenger. This year in my 5th VA District the republican incumbent was knocked out at a district convention by a self-styled “Biblical conservative.” Cameron Webb is a strong Democratic candidate for the 5th, and I’m hoping he’ll win, like Cunninham did in 2018.
OzarkHillbilly
from The Challenger disaster: we can’t say we weren’t warned about American hubris
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jack Canuck: I just listened to and enjoyed your new song. Thanks for the link.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@JPL: His rally crowds don’t respond well when he reads from a script. They’re there to see him bite the head off a chicken.
Immanentize
@JMG: Good on you! In normal times I would meet you in Lexington for brunch.
eclare
@OzarkHillbilly: The Netflix doc on the Challenger is very good. And enraging.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: People are just too willing to pay with the lives of others to meet their personal goals. See, Gun Industry.
OzarkHillbilly
@eclare: Hopefully it will come out on DVD and I can watch it.
@Immanentize: I regret only that you have but one life I can give for my party.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@OzarkHillbilly: My first two professional publications were about communication failures contributing to the Challenger disaster. I used to give a lecture to my engineering students about it
ETA: Here’s a pdf somebody made of one of them, violating all copyrights I’m sure! My god, that was a long time ago.
Geminid
@Geminid: Like most of the excellent House Democratic Class of ’18, Joe Cunningham has not individually made much national news. But he did generate a few headlines last year at an Oceans, Water and Wildlife Subcommittee hearing. An administration official was testifying about the effects of sonic blasting used to survey possible oil reserves, and was trying to minimize it’s effect on whales. Cunningham picked up an air horn and blasted it. Then he pointed out that the sonic pulses generated by a survey ship were up to 16,000 times more powerful.
Steeplejack
@Jack Canuck:
Thanks for the song. Good that you’re able to get back into creating. ?
frosty
@MagdaInBlack: Young’un. Ten bucks a lid, Mexican. With seeds and stems of course.
OzarkHillbilly
Talk about a hostile work environment: Italian woman tells how colleague spiked coffee to ‘eliminate’ her from job
trnc
@Cheryl Rofer:
Yes!. I was a little surprised at the post and the tweet, especially in the context of what you pointed out about DT.
Skepticat
Although I fully agree with you, I see this action more as displaying intelligence and pragmatism than vulnerability. You’re right that only the strong don’t worry about appearing weak.
MagdaInBlack
@frosty: Perhaps I was dealing with midwest farm town markup prices? ( mid “70’s era )
Quinerly
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: it was fantastic. Woke up still thinking about it.
Jeffro
So true. I see the “Biden had an Obama speechwriter in his town hall audience!” making the rounds in wingnut circles*, as if that leaves them no choice but to vote for trumpov. Like…that’s what tips the scales here, all the carnage trumpov has caused vs Biden having a former O person in his audience. Any excuse to vote for the racist.
*btw in Biden’s town hall George S. SAID there were “Democrats, Independents, and Republicans” in the audience. Most of the reporting even notes this! But oh well, gotta vote for the racist.
Kay
I don’t know about Pennsylvania but I do know about Ohio and that this happened is the fault of the Democrats on the Boards of Elections in these counties.
By statute, Ohio Bds of Election must have equal numbers of D’s and R’s on the Board. It’s a great part time job. They are in the state retirement system and they get state health insurance. They work about 10 hours a month 10 months a year and about 40 hours a month 2 months of the year- the two election months, in the spring and fall.
So why did the Democrats on the Boards of Election not vet and then reject this incompetent Trump-promoting company before contracting with them to print ballots?
Democrats in these counties can replace the Board Members who went along with this, and Democrats should. Fire them. Replace them with people who won’t hire incompetent Trump-promoting printing companies to print ballots.
James E Powell
Duncan Black @ Eschaton this morning:
I looked around but did not find GWB approvals in the low 20s. I did, however, find Gallup Polls showing him in the low 30s long before the financial crisis.
His approvals go down to the low 40s after Katrina – though not right away – and he never bounces back. They take another dip into the 30s just before the 2006 midterms and till the end of his term, GWB was never over 40.
Some of this was people tired of the Iraq invasion, but I think he lost support among Republicans because he talked about immigration reform without the requisite racism & cruelty. I think he also suffered from his social security reform, though that was in early 2005 and his approvals were still high.
Anyway, Duncan Black is basically right. It is remarkable that his approvals remain so high and that his support among Republicans senators and congresspersons – along with judges & justices – is still at 100% on every issue that matters.
narya
@MagdaInBlack: I actually had to stop in the mid-80s; I’ve used maybe a half dozen times in the past 40 years, and only a couple have been pleasant. I’m willing to try an edible, though.
mali muso
@OzarkHillbilly:
@eclare:
We watched the Challenger Netflix doc a few weeks ago and it has really stayed with me. The fact that the engineers KNEW the o-rings were a problem but that the culture of management at NASA just could not allow that to pierce their bubble. And the way that the program was being pushed to be “profitable” like a business was really what led to that mindset. A harbinger of the devolution of many government funded programs imo.
Anya
@Geminid: I am glad they sabotaged themselves. As awesome as Cunninham’s win is what gave me hope is the fact that people are seeing the benefits of environmentally sound projects. The fact that the locals fought back, with the help of their congressman is amazing.
OzarkHillbilly
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Interesting, thanx for the pdf. Just reached the part about how bad news is treated as serious in downward communications but as minor in upward communications. I have seen that repeatedly on job sites over the years.
narya
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I’m gonna read that; thanks! I’ve read variations on this subject (a long time ago, including one that blamed PowerPoint), and I find it fascinating.
Kay
Lucas County is Toledo. Like every county in Ohio, its Board of Elections is comprised of equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats.
Which means the Democrats on the Board of Elections went along with hiring the incompetent Trump-promoting brothers and hired them to print and mail ballots.
They’re not doing their job. And it’s a desirable job! State-provided health insurance for 10 hours a month of work on the Board? A lot of competent people would take that job
MagdaInBlack
@narya: I went the standard route of antidepressants and sedatives for anxiety and depression. It did not help. Sedatives were a wee bit too seductive. This allows me to distance myself from the bad feelings and actually deal with them.
Also, some people come home and have a glass of wine, a cocktail, etc. I personally see no difference. To each their own, I figure =-)
Kay
Now we need to look at each county the Trump-promoting ballot printing and mailing company contracted with, and find out if they completed the job on time re: the R majority counties who hired them while delaying the ballots going out to the two D majority counties who contracted with them.
Skepticat
The malignant mango IS a random word generator.
mali muso
Hey for anyone on the roster of writers for postcardstovoters, they finally have Jaime Harrison postcards to be written! Down to the wire, every vote will matter.
James E Powell
@OzarkHillbilly:
I kinda knew the Challenger story, but that documentary really laid it out there as to who screwed up and why. When I heard that guy say he’d make the same decision again, based on what he knew at the time, I wondered if he really believed that or just felt he had to say it to prevent a complete mental & emotional collapse. I mean, dude, your decision blew up people on worldwide television for no good reason. You’re sure you want to say it was the right thing to do, that people just gotta die sometimes?
And the truth was, it wasn’t just one guy. It was a lot of corporate cowards.
narya
@MagdaInBlack: TOTALLY agree–I know several people who partake, and have for decades. Every once in awhile I’d dip a toe in, and . . . regret it. I suspect we’re moving closer to a time when I will be able to get enough information on the product to choose the low-ABV-beer version rather than the 2-shots-of-everclear version, with the caveat that I suspect reactions vary among users even with that info.
prostratedragon
@Jack Canuck: I enjoyed the song, and a couple more. Thanks for the link!
Kay
Boards of Elections are county agencies and they hired the contractor. They don’t have to petition Frank LaRose to intervene. The county prosecutor’s office is their lawyer and both Toledo and Akron have city attorneys who would handle non-compliance with government contracts. They have lawyers. The Boards of Elections can do their own investigation.
geg6
@MagdaInBlack:
You and I agree on this completely. Couldn’t have gotten through the last four years without it. Plus the occasional glass of wine (or two or three). ?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@OzarkHillbilly: I used to tell my engineering students that bad news was like hydraulics. It flowed down easily, but you had to pump and pump to get it to go up.
MagdaInBlack
@geg6: This stoner has already browned a boneless pork loin roast, covered it with salsa de molcajete and coconut milk and put it in the oven. It will be shredded and served over rice. So much for the lazy stoner meme =-)
Off topic but music: Anyone else like Rodrigo y Gabriela? I find them to be excellent cooking music.
Kay
Here’s Lucas County (Toledo)
And here’s the Bd of Elections members:
3 of them are Democrats. Ask them to explain how they ended up hiring an incompetent, Trump-promoting printing company. It’s like hiring Don Jr to print the ballots. Incredible.
eclare
@mali muso: And the NASA people still defend the decision to launch, while the engineers, especially one, I can’t remember his name, are clearly still haunted.
scribbler
@mali muso: Thanks for this. Just wrote and got my list of addresses!
ETA: Luckily I had just finished my last batch of postcards yesterday.
Amir Khalid
Battling 2-2 draw in the Merseyside derby at Everton’s Goodison Park. Keane and Calvert-Lewin for Everton, Mané and Salah for Liverpool. Reds captain Henderson had a late winning goal disallowed because Mané was ruled offside by a hair. van Dijk off injured after a dangerous tackle from Everton keeper Puckford; it shoulda been a red card for Pickford and two sendings off for Everton, not just one. Feh.
mali muso
@eclare: Yeah, the contrast between the guy from the subcontracting company who was literally moved to tears 30 years later when telling about how he wishes he spoke up versus that soul-dead old guy from NASA saying he would make the same call….quite striking.
eclare
@mali muso: Exactly. The difference was stunning. It sticks with you.
Tom Levenson
@MagdaInBlack: Did you bring enough for everyone? Kindergarten rules, you know.
MagdaInBlack
@mali muso: That’s spreadsheet management at work. Too far removed to care.
MagdaInBlack
@Tom Levenson: Itsa pretty big dutch oven, so yes. Bring Ice cream, that the entry fee =-)
$1.69/ lb roast, so its good sized too.
MomSense
@MagdaInBlack: Marijuana is contraindicated for certain mental health disorders. I’ve seen it all go so wrong, like lose kids and job, homicidal ideation, pleading for treatment instead of jail time.
geg6
Has anyone watched The Trial of the Chicago 7 on Netflix yet? Considering a double feature of that with The Way I See It tonight. Saw some great reviews of Sasha Baron Cohen, Frank Langella, Eddie Redmayne, Michael Keaton and the guy who plays Bobby Seale (can’t remember his name at the moment).
Luciamia
@JPL: Idiot going to a red zone to declare that we’ve turned the corner on the virus!
MagdaInBlack
@MomSense: I’m not advocating. Im telling MY experience. Everyone finds their own answer.
Amir Khalid
@Tom Levenson:
It sounds tasty. But none for me, thanks.
MomSense
@Jack Canuck:
Thank you for sharing your song! I really enjoyed it.
MomSense
@MagdaInBlack:
No, I get it. It’s great for a lot of things. Not so great for schizoaffective disorders or if it interferes with medications.
Betty Cracker
Talk about readership capture…
Robert Sneddon
@Amir Khalid: Meanwhile, in the REAL Derby match today, Rangers took away a 2-0 win at Celtic Park, putting down a marker against the Hoops winning yet another season. Celtic is rebuilding and the reports are they’ve got a lot of talented individuals in their roster but right now they don’t have a team per se. Still a long way to go until the medals are handed out next year though.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
If we lose, it won’t be because of our ad team.
eclare
@Betty Cracker: That is really cute! My mom, lifelong R til W, had an “I’m a Democat!” Tshirt.
Robert Sneddon
@Betty Cracker: There’s a Japanese saying, “I’m so busy I’d even welcome a cat’s assistance” (猫の手も借りたい). It loses nothing in the translation, I think.
MagdaInBlack
@MomSense: I get it. =-)
WaterGirl
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: Where does one find this documentary?
OzarkHillbilly
@WaterGirl: MSNBC
Another Scott
@OzarkHillbilly: The thing that still sticks with me is:
I often read AW&ST (a trade magazine for all things that are metal and flew) and after every shuttle flight or even solid-rocket motor test they’d have some story about the O-rings. “They were only 1/3 burned through, therefore there’s a factor of 2 safety margin!” The writers never said that it was nuts to think about things that way, but even I got the gist of it.
It’s one of the things that gives me pause about the continued push to commercialize human space-flight. There will be too much of a push to meet the schedule, meet the revenue targets, cut costs, “Do it! We never had a problem before…”, by managers whose salaries and bonuses depend on things other than safety.
Cheers,
Scott.
Amir Khalid
@Robert Sneddon:
I would like to see the Rangers manager succeed to the job at Liverpool someday. Liverpool still loves Stevie G.
Eunicecycle
My household received a postcard to voters type of mailing yesterday. I wondered if anyone was doing this in Ohio. It was to vote for the 2 Democrats for Supreme Court. We already voted, and we did vote for the 2 judges, but it was nice to see. In Ohio the judges don’t have the party affiliation by their names on the ballot, so that is good to look up ahead of time.
M31
@Eunicecycle: I did! lol maybe you got one of mine. Hope they win!
dmsilev
@Another Scott: The real scandal with the Shuttle booster O-rings is that they existed in the first place. The contract to build the boosters was given to Morton Thiokol, a Utah based company. Because their factory is far inland and well away from navigable rivers, the boosters had to be built in segments so that each segment was small enough to transport by rail, and then assembled closer to the launch site. When the contract was originally sent out to bid in the mid seventies, the MT bid was rated fairly low because of this issue; other competitors were sited in locations that let them build the boosters as monolithic pieces without needing the joints and O-rings. The NASA administrator, who just happened to be pals with the execs at MT, overruled the recommendations of the purchasing experts and picked the MT bid.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
Five bucks says that former head of NASA is a Trump supporter.
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Phrasing?
mad citizen
@Geminid: “Cunningham picked up an air horn and blasted it. Then he pointed out that the sonic pulses generated by a survey ship were up to 16,000 times more powerful.”
Dang! Now I want one of these 16K more powerful sonic pulse generators for the evening of November 3rd. I don’t think my one air horn is going to cut it for the celebration
Loved the Biden cat spot–I have a “Democats for Biden” sticker on my vehicle, from etsy.
And I have a another red white and blue cat outline “Democat” sticker. That one will go on next year for more permanent placement.
debbie
@Kay:
Kay, I can’t say enough good things about Franklin County BoE. The training of new, younger poll workers was clearly thorough and excellent.
I stood in line for 1.25 hours yesterday. I can’t judge distance accurately, but the line was constantly moving. Once inside the building, it took less than 5 minutes to vote.
Everyone was in a great mood, even the few Republicans among us. Poll workers said the line was just as long ever since early voting started (since Oct. 6).
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: I got 10 bucks that says you’re right.
Immanentize
@Betty Cracker: I heart that!
WaterGirl
@OzarkHillbilly: Tivo tells me there is no such show on MSNBC. Well, actually there are about 10 of them, but none of them appears to be this one.
I just googled, and it appears that it was aired on TV (MSNBC) just the one time, last night. The BJ bat signal failed on this one.
Immanentize
@debbie: lines that move do not piss people off as much as those that don’t.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Immanentize:
That’s what she said.
Eunicecycle
@M31: I tried to find it so I could describe it but I can’t right now. It was cute! Thanks for doing that! I made sure my 2 daughters who live in Ohio knew about it, too. One has already voted and took the Democratic sample ballot in with her.
debbie
@MagdaInBlack:
And I’m not condemning or demeaning anyone who still uses it.
eclare
@WaterGirl: Google As I See It, it’s playing again tonight and several more times
ETA> At 9 pm CDT tonight.
Robert Sneddon
@Amir Khalid: Get your own manager.
MagdaInBlack
@debbie: Never occurred to me you were =-)
debbie
@Immanentize:
Yeah, as I kept walking and walking and walking to the end of the line, I was thinking (maybe even out loud) that this was just too fucking much, but a nearby poll worker promised me the line moved quickly. He was not wrong.
Eunicecycle
@WaterGirl: my MSNBC cable lineup shows it will be on again tomorrow (Sunday) night at 10 ET. It’s called “The Way I See It” but may be preempting another show.
debbie
@MagdaInBlack:
Good, thanks. I know my word choices aren’t always the best. ?
UncleEbeneezer
@Eunicecycle: I guarantee that one of the many postcard groups are writing these for OH. I did some postcard writing to OH for 2018 midterms and have definitely sent cards about SC judicial candidates (though I can’t remember if those were for OH or another state). There are so many groups doing this stuff including TakeBackTheCourts, that I’d be shocked if none were targeting 2 SC races in OH.
geg6
@WaterGirl:
It’s being rebroadcast tomorrow at 10pm ET. I know some people discussed it because it reminded me to dvr it last night, so you probably just missed it in comments. Happens to me all the time.
Eunicecycle
@debbie: my daughter texted me yesterday morning that the line was sooo long, but it only took 20 minutes. The line was spaced out for social distancing when I was there so I think that makes it seem longer.
debbie
@Eunicecycle:
Any idea what time of the day she went? I’d like to warn co-workers and friends planning to vote early in person.
frosty
@MagdaInBlack: Early 70s, and I was in SoCal, so no transportation markup.
Barbara
@MagdaInBlack: Unless it does. The faith in the untapped goodness of cannabis by so many users is a little maddening. Not saying it is all bad, and probably not as bad as alcohol, but it’s hardly universally benign.
UncleEbeneezer
@Eunicecycle: postcardstovoters was working on those two OH races last week. Probably still are.
OzarkHillbilly
@WaterGirl: Yes, last night. I don’t know anything about scheduling etc on tv any more. Haven’t watched any in about 2 decades. (I watch dvds)
Eunicecycle
@UncleEbeneezer: if nothing else comes out of the debacle that is the Trump administration, I hope that it will motivate more people to vote in every single damned election, and research candidates ahead of time. There are many elections that are important to our every day lives that happen in between presidential elections.
dnfree
@Sloane Ranger: you are so right about mental health. It was my husband’s field for decades. The money saved by closing the big institutions was supposed to follow those in need into community-based centers. It didn’t happen. The Great Recession cut funding even further. “Care” for many mentally ill people is now “provided” by prisons, jails, and homeless shelters. Those big institutions were a haven for some in the chronic population.
Eunicecycle
@debbie: she went at 8:30 am.
Yutsano
For the love of…
Marijuana gives me migraines. Interestingly enough I haven’t had one since we got evicted from the office. So I don’t have to go through my day thinking if there were any funny smells.
Ian
@debbie: It is one of the reasons I favor having legalized weed. Once you’ve gotten a batch that someone put PCP into to kick it up a notch street weed doesn’t seem so nice.
I believe in a very similar argument about heroin and meth, but our country refuses to acknowledge that the health and safety of individuals addicted to these kinds of drugs are important.
laura
@narya: Please reconsider trying edibles if you’ve had bad experiences with smoking cannabis. If you do explore edibles, please ensure that it’s way low on the thc. It takes a good while for the effects to be noticeable and so very easy to over do it and then you are stuck as it takes a long time to wear off. cbd has much to offer, but proceed with caution. I prefer old school flower, but I’m not a top shelf high thc fan At All – prefer low to mid grade “housewife’s special.” Just enough to elevate the mood in the face of unrelenting drudgery, and to ease the hip aches and pains that interfere with sleep.
debbie
@Eunicecycle:
Thanks! I got there at 9:15 so people must have flooded in just those 45 minutes.
WaterGirl
@eclare: Oh, thank you! I just set it to record.
dnfree
@geg6: we watched the Chicago 7 last night. Brought back memories, since we lived in Chicago then. It was well done. Slate had a good article on what was factual and what was not. (I find that dramatic endings are often made up.)
WaterGirl
@Eunicecycle: Thank you. Found it!
Jinchi
Has Ivanka appeared in public at all? I don’t remember anything since her maskless appearance at the first debate. Not even a simple, ‘Get well soon’ tweet, when her dad was publicly airlifted to Walter Reed. Nor any concern for Melania or her youngest brother Barron or the dozens of other people she knows personally who caught corona in the last few weeks.
WaterGirl
@geg6: It has been a busy week with all the pet pics.
NotMax
The past week’s smorgasbord of viewing included one of the stranger (and ultimately creepier) documentaries which have seen, stumbled across on Prime, Tickled.
geg6
@laura:
This. Steer clear of street weed and also high THC from dispensaries. My John actually grows me a little every summer in our greenhouse (to keep it on the downlow from the neighbors and any nosy people). So homegrown is just fine with me, being just enough to chill me out, kill the worst of aches and pains of aging and sleep later in the evening.
germy
Vote
WaterGirl
@Jinchi: Maybe she has COVID and is keeping a low profile? I have wondered the same thing about Bill Barr.
frosty
@laura: @narya:
I second Laura’s comment. The only time I ate brownies it was really hallucinogenic and lasted a long while.
I gave it up in every form when Reagan got elected. I didn’t need to have a federal bust on my record.
Kay
@debbie:
I’m glad. I want us to look at the election administrators as much as we look at the state and federal rights and laws. This reminds me of 2004 in Ohio, where although we have exactly as many Democrats as we have Republicans on elections boards, the Democratic counties had long lines and the GOP counties didn’t. They knew it was going to be high turnout, they knew it was a year where young people were fired up, yet the polling places located at universities got swamped and collapsed. That is the fault of the three Democrats on that bd of election- they have months to secure the resources they need.
This isn’t the situation in Georgia, btw. That is NOT the fault of local officials. They have a lousy statewide check in process.
OzarkHillbilly
@WaterGirl: She and Barr have both already left the country. He’s in the NW Frontier Pakistan and she’s hiding out in Saudi Arabia as Bin Salman’s consort.
different-church-lady
I repeat: am I a fuckin’ genius or what?
OzarkHillbilly
@different-church-lady: No, I had the same prediction.
Ken
@different-church-lady: Yes, congratulations on what was really a surprising prediction, since ABC had one network and NBC three. I still haven’t seen anything about Trump’s reaction but perhaps they are keeping the news from him. Or maybe he’s been shrieking continuously on twitter, but I only see his twits second- or third-hand.
EDIT: And congrats to OzarkHillbilly for the same.
Matt McIrvin
By the way, “Chris S” on Twitter was kindly enough to inform me of the actual source of the stories about mail ballots in MI and WI having no great Democratic lean. It’s not real party data–it comes from a model used by TargetSmart, an election-data aggregator. TargetSmart is at least not a right-wing organization (it seems to be used mostly by Democrats), but the story got touted in the right-wing press.
I don’t know what TargetSmart’s model entails, but I suspect they might be aggregating information about where the ballots are coming from, and then using 2016 election results to try to extrapolate from the party lean of different locations. There seems to be a pattern where the “modeled party” for states where they don’t have actual data, especially in the upper Midwest, is much less Democratic than in the states where they do.
different-church-lady
@OzarkHillbilly: Are WE a fuckin’ genius or what?
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: I cannot see Barr doing well in Pakistan, much less the Afghani frontier. Ivanka would be fine where you’ve put her, basically no change, except for the religion thing.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@frosty: And this is how frosty stayed frosty in SoCal.
brantl
@debbie: He is, can’t you tell? The hard part would be to identify when he started. The random word generator is between what’s left of his cortex, and his vocal centers.
raven
@danielx: Nice!
different-church-lady
@debbie: How could we tell the difference?
Old Dan and Little Ann
My friends and I had some Bruce Jenner strain in Denver and my one friend was geeked out on the couch and wanted to call his mommy. He’s 45. Lol….
MagdaInBlack
@Barbara: Please see comments #81 and 104.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Immanentize: As I typed, it did occur to me that BJers have dirty minds.
Mike E
Getting a contact high from these comments, heh.
NC has had over one million ballots cast already
raven
@eclare: We just had a Bosch hybrid hvac system installed. Apparently they only make two versions and they are beasts.
Yutsano
@Matt McIrvin: Which…you’re still not linking to. Give us a chance to look at the data and methodology ourselves. Forgive us for not just taking your word on it. Especially since the way you describe it I already see flaws.
zhena gogolia
Question for the BJ hive mind. We are supposed to go to a wedding in our next-door neighbors’ backyard this afternoon. We were told it would be outside and socially distanced. People were asked to wear masks, but were told they could take them off as soon as they sat down (which made me nervous). I’ve known the bride since she was born and she is a lovely young woman, so we said yes. We are in a pretty low-infection-rate part of CT so we thought it would be okay. But last night and today, there have been cars lined up outside their house and on the street, and the people sure as hell aren’t outside. How dangerous is this going to be?
ETA: We have been extremely careful and don’t even see our own friends.
raven
Let’s start with the most important feature that sets these units apart from the crowd. And it’s not a Bosch!
Mitsubishi has made inverter driven compressors for decades for its ductless heat pumps. They are among the best in the world – efficient and reliable. That’s why many brands, like Bosch, use the best available parts rather than trying to “re-invent the wheel.”
different-church-lady
@zhena gogolia: Watch it from your own yard. With masks on.
Yutsano
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Who? Us? Nooooo…we’re precious pure angels and no one would ever say otherwise.
(Do I need the sarc tag here? No? Okay)
Ken
@different-church-lady: Nowadays it can be difficult to distinguish human- and computer-generated text. Spam emails make use of this both to get around spam filters and to perhaps trick the person who receives the mail.
In Trump’s case it’s kind of weird, since his speeches have many of the characteristics of computer text. The sudden changes of subject and the syntax abnormalities are common. However neither the coining of new words nor the repetition are characteristic of computers.
raven
@zhena gogolia: The question I’d think about is, if there are that many people, would anyone no if you didn’t go?
Matt McIrvin
@Yutsano: It’s here:
https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/index.html
What I’m saying is, I think this model is producing bogus output where it doesn’t have actual data, because it’s extrapolating from past election cycles.
Yutsano
@zhena gogolia: I would only go to the parts that are outside and don’t drop your mask for anything. Even if there’s a communion involved. God is gonna understand.
OGLiberal
I don’t know if they are doubling down or trying to make up for stuff but the NY Post’s latest story makes Biden look like the dad everybody wishes they had. Disgusting that they published it and even Jonah Goldberg is disgusted by it but it’s not a bad look. It basically paints a picture of an extremely good dad, contrasted with the other guy, who doesn’t and wouldn’t give a shit.
I like Joe and I came away from that story liking him more. Only monsters would think otherwise but then we have a lot of them, like most of the dudes who were my friends as a youth, I’m finding.
Danielx
@MagdaInBlack:
R y G are excellent.
JPL
@zhena gogolia: If you stand at the back of the yard with your masks on it should be fine. It’s not a good idea to sit at a table though. You’ll at least be able to wish them well.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@zhena gogolia: If lots of people have been there at the same time and are inside, then they’re not the kind of folks who have been distancing and following other good practices. I would probably drop by (masked), wish the bride well, leave my present, and depart after 15 minutes (the time the CDC sets for “close interaction”).
I know it feels bad, but this isn’t your fault.
frosty
@different-church-lady: Yes, DCL, yes you are!
ETA: @OzarkHillbilly: And you are too! All hail all our fuckin’ geniuses!!!
Skepticat
I don’t smoke anything, but I tried full-spectrum CBD oil (which has only a small amount of THC and was suggested by my doctors in both Maine and The Bahamas) for fibro pain. I didn’t see any improvement, but that and the CBD gummies seem to have eased some of my anxiety over the current state of affairs and can’t be as bad as vodka for my old bod. It may be only a placebo effect, but I’ll take any help I can get.
frosty
@zhena gogolia: Try this app. It takes location, activity, number of people, and length of time into account.
https://mycovidrisk.app/
My son went to an outdoor wedding in Ocean City at the end of August and no one got infected. I don’t think they had the issue of a lot of people visiting like you’re describing. I’d be leery of attending based on that.
debbie
@Jinchi:
She was included in the group of surrogates that were to make appearances on Trump’s behalf after he got COVID-19, so she must have appeared somewhere.
Matt McIrvin
@zhena gogolia:
So many of these things, I’d consider nearly 100% safe as long as they insisted on masks worn throughout, but “you can take them off as soon as you sit down” breaks that. I’ve been to small well-ventilated outdoor gatherings where there was food served, and even that made me a bit nervous–but as soon as there’s a lot of people with unknown recent history in a small area it strikes me as not OK.
Yutsano
@Matt McIrvin: Thanks. It looks like Wisconsin isn’t too bad based upon that. The unaffiliated numbers should scare the Republicans. I’m not too worried about Michigan especially if the Democratic surge there comes later. But yeah it’s very much a case of past performance not predicting future results.
debbie
@Kay:
I waited 45 minutes in 2004 at a union hall. It was cold and rainy, and that line did not move. Being 16 years younger, I must have had higher tolerance because I didn’t turn around and leave.
narya
@laura: Yeah, I was gonna start w/ a little–and NOT increase because “I don’t feel anything.” It’s a different method of absorption so that could affect things as well. The thing is, I had great experiences smoking, for quite awhile, but then in the early 80s it suddenly got a LOT stronger than the ditchweed I’d grown up on. I’ve had a couple of good experiences in subsequent years, but it can be a crapshoot, so I just avoid. I figure that, as labeling improves, I’ll be better able to select a product that works for me; meanwhile, wine or beer are just fine.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
A chain (of protection) is only as string as its weakest link (and all it takes is one other guest – or member of the catering crew, if any – who has not been duly cautious), so agree with others above to hover around the periphery, a la Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, and approach the newlyweds to wish them well only when strategically feasible, and keep the masks on.
narya
@zhena gogolia: That sucks. I would do as others below suggested–quick visit, greet the bride, keeping the mask on, then exit. If the ceremony is outside, you could likely stay for that portion of the program. I’ve been seeing articles about how small gatherings are now a huge source of spread; this sounds like Exhibit A.
debbie
@different-church-lady:
Or leave before they serve the meal.
raven
@Skepticat: I’ve been getting this stuff for me and Bohdi and I have no idea if it does anything but the veterans discount it awesome.
Matt McIrvin
@Yutsano: A tell is that Pennsylvania DOES report party data, and the mail-ins are heavily Democratic there. It’s hard to imagine the other Great Lakes states being tremendously different. I also doubt the unaffiliateds are split down the middle, given the polls.
debbie
@NotMax:
Okay, now I have to watch that movie.
Aziz, light!
@MagdaInBlack: $25 an ounce? Back in the day we paid $10 to $15 for an ounce of Mexican ditch weed, seeds and stems included at no extra charge.
NotMax
Idea to keep on the back burner for now (as it’s too early in the month yet) for WaterGirl – a thread on recommended or favorite media in some way related to any theme(s) suggested by Halloween.
craigie
@MagdaInBlack:
An ounce cost $10 when I was in High School. If you paid $15, you got some really good stuff.
MagdaInBlack
@Aziz, light!: As I said in a diff comment, midwest farm town ( population 700) mark up may apply.
raven
@Aziz, light!: When I was in school I’d take out a short-term loan they gave to vets, buy an lb for $160, sell 12 lids for $15 and smoke the rest
Superfly
Tryin’ ta get over
NotMax
@NotMax
Ack.
strong, not string
/Captain Obvious
JPL
@Kay: Yes we do. They added extra check table when I went, but still slow. There wasn’t enough spacing either.
It was worth just to vote against that racist shit Perdue.
Immanentize
@OGLiberal: Some on the Twitter machine said:
“Every day, Eric Trump has longed for an email like the one Joe sent Hunter.”
germy
“We Will Not Comply!”
Aleta
@Jinchi: She was in GA last week for Perdue and threw pizza dough in the air for a camera.
Fair Economist
@Yutsano: There’s an idea floating around now that most migraines are actually sinus headaches. So if there was something irritating or allergenic at your old office that could have done it.
Geminid
@raven: a friend who is an avid pro football fan told me that the NFL has lightened up on testing for THC. Cannabis is good for pain, and NFL players need it more than most. A pragmatic move on the NFL’S part. They have more dangerous drugs to worry about.
NotMax
@MagdaInBlack
“Additional shipping and handling charges may apply.”
Was once (and once only) in the 1970s offered $11,000 to join a small crew tasked with switching off driving duties on a tractor-trailer filled with maryjane from Texas to someplace up north.
Did not take the bait. Just the word Texas was enough to make that decision. And eleven grand was Major Moolah at the time, when I was squeaking by on significantly less then three grand per year.
Eunicecycle
@debbie: Hey I was away for a while and when I caught up I realized I left you with the false impression that my daughter voted in the same county you did. We live in Stark County; that’s where she voted. I guess I was (badly) trying to say that she thought she was waiting in a long line, but you really did have a long wait. Sorry for the confusion!
Immanentize
@NotMax:. Ooo ooo! I have one! I was just listening to this song today:
Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band:
Kandy Korn.
Some of the best 8 minutes ever recorded….
Ceci n est pas mon nym
OK, I’m hyperventilating here. NPR managed to dent my growing optimism.
I was listening to “Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell me”, which segues into “This American Life”. Normally I expect “Life” to be some random quirky stories not particularly connected to anything in my life. But this morning they decided to get political. First we heard from the Republican strategist gloating about how they were challenging the mail-in ballots, and they figured that if they only managed to get 7% of the ballots thrown out randomly, they’d win.
Then we heard about Florida and how Biden has no ground game, no office, nobody going door to door, no watch parties, nothing. While the Trump people are doing all of that and signing up huge numbers of new voters. I believe the story was from Broward County.
I find that very difficult to believe (the no ground game by Democrats part), but I turned it off before my growing nausea turned into a full-fledged panic attack.
As an antidote I listened to the Pod Save America Obama interview for awhile, which helped. Obama talking about anything calms me down.
But I still have that growing nausea. We aren’t really walking away from Florida, right? Somebody talk me down.
Aleta
She’s going around the country like the virus.
MagdaInBlack
@NotMax: We lived near Rt 80 in Illinois. In the 80’s they were busting semi’s of weed at least once a week. All coming from Texas. We figured for every 1 they got, 10 more got thru. Set up one, let the rest roll thru
Eta: the drivers they got were almost always Mexican.
Ken
I see that Rudy Giuliani says there’s only a 50/50 chance that he was working with a Russian spy. That makes sense. There’s two choice, either the guy was or was not a spy, so that works out to 50/50, right?
Definitely want to be sitting across from that man at a poker table.
Immanentize
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: no we are not walking away from Florida. Biden has hired big for Florida! For each of these senior people there are probably two or three dozen additional paid and full time volunteers. Plus part time volunteers. Plus national phone bankers etc.
Linky
Just yesterday, someone (Sahil Kapur?) was talking about the fact that hat Biden had 60 people in Texas, which he said was not even a third of what he had in Florida.
ETA. The Democrats are not doing door to door canvassing as much because of Covid. There are doing literature drops. The Republicans are still doing traditional door to door and getting chased off a lot. Maybe that is what they meant by “ground game?”
zhena gogolia
Thanks, everyone. I should have mentioned that we’re not eating, just observing the ceremony. I think for that it should be okay. Maybe we can stay well back in the yard, close to our own yard, and escape as soon as the ceremony is over.
Ken
Wait, America needs a comeback? I though American was great again and Trump was going to keep it that way?
Kathleen
@debbie: She was in Cincinnati yesterday
My local NBC affiliate referred to her as a “Senior Administration Official”. I immediately thought of Kay LOL.
Shakti
So today’s the first day of Navaraatri here.
Navaraatri is about a goddess who annihilates an arrogant evil demon who tramples over everyone and thinks there is no way anyone can defeat him.
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1317472937159610373
I spent some time thinking about it as my feed was enraged over Perdue and everything else.
Immanentize
Listening to Captain Beefheart. All this talk of weed…. Ahhh youth.
raven
@NotMax: My buddy lived in Tucson and would put the herb in the front of the trailer and load the rest with cacti that he would sell on campus. Nobody wanted to unload a truckload of that to look for weed!
zhena gogolia
@frosty:
Hmm, it says “very low risk.”
NotMax
@Immanentize
It was the best of times, it was the – um, I forget.
:)
WaterGirl
@different-church-lady: @OzarkHillbilly:
I think that makes you both geniuses!
Kay
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
The “new voters” thing is all over Right wing media, and to a certain extent it’s true- they did narrow the gap between registered Democrats and registered Republicans in FL and PA. But it’s more complicated than that. They aren’t all “new voters”. A lot of them are Trump 16 voters who are now registering as Republicans. In one PA county that went 70/30 Trump in ’16 they “narrowed the gap” between R and D registrations to 60/40 D/R. But that doesn’t mean anything. 70% of them voted for Trump in ’16. Why did it matter that they were registered as Democrats? They were Trump voters in 16 and they’ll be Trump voters again in 20.
Too, a lot of GOP states culled their voter rolls- people who haven’t voted in X number of years or moved or died drop off, so they weren’t D voters anyway, so the D to R registration advantage was inflated. As far as Republican Party or Trump Campaign reporting of “doors knocked” etc. I just don’t think they’re credible on self-reporting anything anymore. The whole Party machinery is corrupt. I have no earthly idea how many doors they knocked and no one else does either.
brantl
@Kay: 50-50 doesn’t win shit. If your Democrats on the board stood up for more access, and the Repubs shut them down, what will your exactly 50% be able to do? Haven’t you asked yourself that?
debbie
@Eunicecycle:
No worries! I tried to get there earlier, but I’m so #$@! slow in the morning. Now I know it likely wouldn’t have mattered.
Kathleen
@Betty Cracker: I finally got to see the Samuel L Jackson ad this morning on ABC. Perfect. Loved that it provided Jim Crow context. Biden/Harris team is attracting brilliant talent on all levels.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: For safety, it’s outside, masks, and socially distanced.
At best you will have 1 out of 3, unless I am being too pesimistic about the likelihood that people will really distance. Plus, the 6 feet thing is the minimum distance, not a guaranteed safe distance.
My two cents? What you have described is unlikely to be safe. But I am on the more cautious side of the COVID-caution-continuum.
debbie
@Kathleen:
Bet the “troops” were frustrated. No yelling, no threatening, no locking anybody up (except her and her father, of course)
Kathleen
@Eunicecycle: Hamilton County Dem sample ballot includes Dem endorsed judges, a practice started in 2018. I passed out judicial sample ballots at polling location in 2018. Several Dem endorsed judges were elected.
Kathleen
@debbie: Hamilton Vounty BOE is outstanding also and it’s run by a Republican.
Kay
@brantl:
If 50/50 doesn’t win shit than how did Republicans win their Trump supporting incompetent contractor in two Democratic counties? Toledo doesn’t have printing companies now? They have to hire some shitty Trump outfit out of Cleveland?
They were too lazy to do any due diligence and check out the contractor they hired to print and mail ballots.
Boards of Elections members in Ohio actually sign ballots in Ohio. When you get your ballot if has an imprint of the signatures of the Bds of Elections members in your county on the flip side, right. The buck stops with them. They didn’t think ballot printing and mailing was important enough to vet the contractor?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: Captain Beefheart was from Glendale.
geg6
@WaterGirl:
I would make sure I was sufficiently distanced, only stay for the ceremony and be masked at all times, but being outside should be fairly safe if you take those precautions. Sitting down to eat in proximity of unmasked others, regardless of inside or outside, is my step too far. The only exception for me is my “bubble.” Two of my sisters, their husbands, one niece and two friends. And not all at the same time. For instance, four of us will be at my sister’s tomorrow. Her husband will not be there. Just me, John, my sister and the two friends. All football and food on her deck.
Kathleen
@debbie: I can’t even listen to local news anymore because there’s too much bad election coverage though I realize locals are at the mercy of their respective Mother Ships. But you’re probably right. That’s the number 1 perk of being Trump supporter.
Gvg
@zhena gogolia: can you watch the wedding from your own backyard? Rig some high seats? Sit on your roof and watch?
Immanentize
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Glendale? “Step into my Hundai.”
That explains a lot about the old Captains mindset.
debbie
@Kathleen:
That’s good to know. There aren’t many in Ohio, I’d bet.
germy
He’s got my vote.
The Thin Black Duke
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Fuck NPR. All these assclowns want to do is depress turnout, because that’s what they do. Other than arts programming, their political coverage is garbage.
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
And it’s spread outside of some of those countries. rupert’s “gift” is in exploiting people’s base desires over time with his BS “reporting.” He dresses it up in blondes or the flavor of the location and a huge helping of stupid and turning people who look like him into victims of the poor and minorities, while he and his buddies steal everything not tied down, and a lot that is. He is one of the worst of the breed, but he is not alone in his desire for an all white world of his wealth and everyone else’s poverty or at least less than him.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: Yup, Hoover High grad.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Immanentize: This lady was specifically claiming there’s no Biden office she can go to to get signs or volunteer. I found that really hard to believe.
Ksmiami
@eclare: is it based on the Truth, Lies and O Rings book?
zhena gogolia
@geg6:
Luckily, we’re not included in the meal. They’re going to drop something off at our front porch or something, but we don’t have to sit down and eat, which I never would have agreed to anyway.
zhena gogolia
@Gvg:
There’s a tent in their yard and I’m afraid maybe the ceremony will be in there, so we can’t see it from our yard. We have no seating on the roof!
Ruckus
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
The things you learn about people. The lives they’ve had, the jobs they’ve done. The progress that can happen, and even if it doesn’t progress or takes far too long, it’s still progress/knowledge. And if it helps in some way, even an unintended way, it’s still progress.
I am impressed.
eclare
@Ksmiami: If it was it didn’t say so. Lots of current interviews.
Dan B
@geg6: Finished watching the Trial of the Chicago Seven last night. I was in Chicago during the trial and worked with Rennie Davis’ girlfriend. The movie is not accurate but it’s moving.
Ruckus
@debbie:
I waited 4 hrs in that same rain in OH. I lived in a somewhat democratic area, in Gahanna.
Kathleen
@The Thin Black Duke: Yup. I agree. This was a definite attempt to suppress voting. I’m not a fan of Ira Glass. I don’t trust him.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@WaterGirl: I recorded the show last night but haven’t watched it yet, although I saw a few clips and Obama is so amazingly elegant always. Also wonderful to see all the shots of him with kids, obviously delighting in them.
Anyway, according to my DirectTV DVR info (it lets you check for other showings), it is shown again Sunday 10/18 at 7 pm and Friday 10/23 at 9 pm. The times are probably PDT since I’m in CA. Both on MSNBC, #356, obviously.
ogjerry
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Longtime lurker, first time commenter. Your paper is excellent. I’ve often referred people to “The Abilene Paradox: The Management of Agreement” by Jerry B. Harvey, which was published in the summer of 1974 as an explanation of the Challenger disaster, Watergate and other explosions and implosions. I’m certain that you are familiar with both the paper and the management disfunction. When I was involved in an organization (both in the military and defense industry) I called it “Taking a Trip to Abilene”, from which I would take the first exit.
Kent
@MagdaInBlack:
Wasn’t just the 1980s. We lived in Waco in the earlier 2000s. Seemed like about every week there was a massive drug bust on I-35 of some semi hauling drugs north. But yes, mostly Mexican drivers. I never figured out how they managed to pick which trucks to pull over along the highway for drug inspections. Must have been some sort of inside intelligence of sophisticated profiling. Because the volume of trucks going up and down I-35 in Texas is truly enormous. Although in more recent years it was more meth than pot that they were busting.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
We just went for a walk. We saw some friends out on their bikes, and one of them said, “Wow, that’s a real superspreader event down the street!” The one we’re supposed to attend in a few minutes.
germy
I don’t trust him either. Some others have done good journalism, but he’s done some questionable stuff. I’m not sure what his story is.
Ken
Wouldn’t matter, if almost all of the trucks were carrying drugs.
Another Scott
@Kay:
https://nbc24.com/news/local/lucas-county-election-officials-acknowledge-over-55000-delayed-ballot-deliveries
20/88 = 22.7% of Ohio counties.
It’s a screwup, but there’s time to fix it and Toledo isn’t alone. I don’t think one should say it’s the Democrats on the BoE that are at fault.
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan): That’s good to know, I found 9pm on Sunday and 11 pm on Friday. That’s central time. So what we are finding lines up.
That’s good to know that it’s consistent across time zones. thanks.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: You’ll have to tell us what you finally decided, and how it went.
J R in WV
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zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
We went over and scoped it out, and there was absolutely no distancing inside the tent. But the tent was open somewhat, so my husband brought over two chairs and we sat on our property, masked, until the wedding party had gone into the tent, then we brought our chairs to near the door of the tent where we could see the ceremony. It was very sweet, but I was also kind of filled with resentment — one half of the country is forgoing parties with friends and family, and the other half just acts as if they’re immune.
planetjanet
@zhena gogolia: Your decision seems good, making the best of a difficult situation.
Elizabelle
@ogjerry: Thank you. Reading “The Abilene Paradox” now.