The Bobinski dude come up yet?
Hopefully the appearance at the debate will clarify what the hell Tom Bombulinski was doing in the Lord of the Rings
— Owen Barcala (@obarcala) October 22, 2020
From the Guardian liveblog:
Trump seemed agitated as he remarked on Biden breaking fundraising records in August and September.
The Democratic nominee raised $364.5 million in September, smashing the previous single-month fundraising record, which Biden had set himself a month earlier.
“I can blow away your records like you couldn’t believe,” the president said. Trump then attacked Biden over ties to Wall Street.
Biden responded by simply saying, “Average contribution: $43.”
TRIGGERED!
cain
Biden should keep pushing his button by talking about how awesome it is that he has more attention.
Baud
Welker can’t say no to Trump.
dmsilev
Another “strong email”
Leto
“Oooohhhh, I have to respond to that…”
Such a whiny ass bitch.
Yutsano
Look at Dolt45’s face. He is HATING the rules of this debate.
Baud
MexicoChina is going to pay for it!Leto
@Baud: Yeah, I’m already annoyed by the tennis match back and forth. Give each one a response, maybe two, move the fuck on.
cain
Trump looks like he doesn’t understand Joe’s answer.
dmsilev
Trump …doesn’t understand economics.
Baud
Malarkey!
Mary G
Twitler is being disciplined by not talking over Joe much – his handlers may have planted a shock device in his pants. Starting to fray, though. And drink – MALARKEY!
WaterGirl
It’s not about his family or my family, it’s about YOUR family.
This was Joe, not Trump, in case you were wondering.
L85NJGT
@Yutsano:
Body languange is starting to look defeated.
Yutsano
MALARKEY! DRINK!
EDIT: SHUT. HIM. UP!
dmsilev
Malarkey sighting.
NotMax
“Malarkey.”
That’s worth a double sip o’ drinky.
cain
MALARKEY! yay!!! ????????
Leto
He’s not going to take 10 sec Kristen, STOP DOING IT!
cain
mute him! MUTE HIM!
dmsilev
“Who gives a fuck about normal people?”
-Trump.
Splitting Image
I just realized tonight that the main reason Rudy Giuliani was willing to go so far to help defeat Joe Biden is that Biden did to him in 2008 what Obama did to Trump in 2011.
I mean he’s an evil, corrupt piece of shit too, but I think that Mr. “Noun Verb and 911” was in it for revenge as much as anything else. Strange that I didn’t even think of that until tonight.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Trump’s strategy seems to be pulling a lot of new bullshit out of his ass that I guess came from a new flood of fake emails? So they haven’t yet been debunked?
MobiusKlein
Malarkey Culkin!
Quinerly
@dmsilev: I am pretty sure now he doesn’t. The “info” he spouts is fed to him.
L85NJGT
@dmsilev:
Which means he can’t respond even if Joe gives him an opening.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
“Malarkey” – drink!!
cain
Kristen has been doing pretty good as moderator.
dmsilev
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Gish Gallop.
Yarrow
It feels like Trump is getting at least twice the time to talk than Biden is.
Leto
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: No, they’ve been debunked but he’s just going to keep on spouting the bullshit. It’s all he has. He doesn’t know facts, policy, information, it’s all conspiracy theories. The first three require study/discipline and that’s not him.
Wag
Joe is kicking ass
and the moderator is calling out Trump, which is nice to see
Yutsano
Biden: “I would contain North Korea by pressuring China.”
I’m paraphrasing. But Joe is right. And calling Kim a thug LOL.
EDIT: STOP LETTING HIM TALK OVER!!!
different-church-lady
I gotta say, Julia Louis-Dreyfus is doing a heck of a job moderating this thing.
Leto
@Yarrow: “ok Mr President, 10 sec” and it’s 45 sec later and moving.
Baud
10 seconds!
There’s the Friedman unit, now there’s the Welker unit.
NotMax
If Dolt 45 again brings up anything involving Biden boys having been in the military, the response ought to be, “Remind me, please. What rank did Don Junior and Eric achieve?”
Fraud Guy
So was Bobulinski agitprop, useful idiot, or both. I have a screamer in my home citing him as reason to have Biden and the entire Democratic Party arrested before they turn us over to China.
John S.
@Leto: She’s only marginally better than previous moderators. She keeps letting the orange shitstain rant and rave like a lunatic. And that’s ok, because he sounds like a lunatic.
Baud
Cut the mike! You have the power!
Mary G
C’mon! President is going out of control.
Wag
She’s awesome, actually.
Central Planning
I can’t wait for all the analysis of Dolt 45’s facial expressions, like we got about Kamala’s.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Leto: Yeah, she’s kinda sucking.
Still say Samuel L. should have moderated.
Steeplejack
Welker just lost control on the Korea thing. Should have muted Trump instead of doing the futile “Mr. President, we have to move on” thing.
Danielx
I’m liking my contribution to rotating tag lines better all the time, and no sexism intended:
The President is a whiny little bitch.
dmsilev
Every time Trump talks over Welker, he comes off as a rude boor.
Baud
@Fraud Guy:
Let’s turn him over to China.
pat
I can’t watch. Trump lies and lies and lies about Biden and all the money he has received from China and Welkin just goes on to the next topic. She is pathetic.
different-church-lady
@Central Planning: Knee-slapper.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
Only the Debate Commission has that power, not Welker. Though she doesn’t have to give him “10 secs” to respond every 5 secs
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: Look who’s here!!!!
dmsilev
That’s a lot of words to not say anything.
Yutsano
“Come up with a better health care.”
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR PLAN YOU PROMISED???
mrmoshpotato
HALFTIME
Eagles 10
Giants 7
Adam L Silverman
@Fraud Guy: Both. Read this thread:
Leto
He just got muted: DRINK! Lolol
Princess
I listened to about 30 seconds during the tax stuff and I couldn’t any more. Thanks to those of you with stronger constitutions than I.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: She doesn’t. The person with control of the mics is in a separate location.
Bobby Thomson
@cain:
Holy shit that’s a bad take. She lets Trump take as much time as he wants. She’s weak AF.
zhena gogolia
@Central Planning:
INORITE?
debbie
Did Trump end up bringing Bobulinski?
mrmoshpotato
@Yutsano: They’re in the book of blank pages.
Bobby Thomson
@Adam L Silverman: it shouldn’t be discretionary. If it’s discretionary there’s too much pressure not to use it.
Steeplejack
I’m torn: I feel like Biden might be losing a little ground by not doing Trump’s “I need to respond to that” thing, but maybe to do that is just wrestling with the pig. I guess the underlying question is whether anybody believes the crap Trump is spewing. Right now he’s taking credit for the good parts of Obamacare.
Omnes Omnibus
Infrastructure! And Trump taunting….
WaterGirl
all the people with COVID are going to have pre-existing conditions.
I have been waiting for Biden to say that for a long time. yay!
Quinerly
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): Pulp Fiction Samuel Jackson!
Ivan X
So is Joe landing any solid blows? It sounds like he got in a couple of good zingers, but it’s easy to imagine that he isn’t when the jackaltariat keeps coming up with the things he ought to be saying. (I sadly cannot listen to Trump’s voice without violent spasms being induced.)
dmsilev
Mocking reference to infrastructure week! Drink!
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: I never left.
cain
Joe is more liberal than Bernie Sanders… jeeezus.
Kay
@debbie:
That whole line of attack isn’t working though- I’m not sure why. He just doesn’t seem to be able to tie it together and Biden looks almost bored by it.
different-church-lady
Christ almighty, Biden is live-tweeting the debate.
zhena gogolia
@Ivan X:
I’m looking at clips on Aaron Rupar and Biden is excellent.
Steeplejack
Goddamn, Welker is letting Trump run long, long, long!
dmsilev
“He’s a very confused guy”.
Truth.
Yutsano
@Steeplejack: Joe’s laughing at him. Joe’s doing fine. Orangezilla is looking like a clown.
Bobby Thomson
The thing is, even though it’s Welker’s fault, a lot of men will see this as Trump being dynamic and taking charge and Biden being weak. Trump was on the ropes even with male voters and facing an epic beatdown and she just gave him a lifeboat.
Baud
BJ is losing it.
cain
Luckily none of you are here at home where I’m screaming MUTE HIM! MUUUUTE HIIIIIIIM!!
dmsilev
@different-church-lady:
I want a President who can multitask.
NotMax
B-J site is really, really, really struggling now.
“If he’s elected the stock market will crash.” Looney tunes balderdash.
Omnes Omnibus
He must be confused. Ha!
Mary G
Twitler’s attacking Kamala and Bernie, Joe’s going Trumpy “I beat all those people, he’s running against Joe Biden, not somebody else.” Welker has lost control
Joe’s not talking much, but when he gets a word in, he’s devastating. He’s attacking McConnell saying the HEROES Act has been out for months, Mitch can’t get his people to pass it, why didn’t Twitler drop the hammer on his party’s senators? Excellent.
Baud
Nice Biden rant on Wall Street.
Wag
What happens to ordinary people
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Bobby Thomson:
Debates don’t actually change people’s minds. Come the fuck on. Biden is laughing at him
Yutsano
@Baud: The blog gerbils are definitely wheezing tonight.
EDIT: Joe bringing up the HEROES act in response to “Why aren’t you pushing the Democrats?” Nice move.
mrmoshpotato
@cain:
Forget DRINK! on that. That’s a DO SOME SHROOMS line.
Quinerly
@Bobby Thomson: agree. My fear.
Danielx
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant):
I said two minutes, motherfucker!
Ivan X
@zhena gogolia: Excellent. Thanks for the report and for all of you with a stronger stomach than me.
James E Powell
@John S.:
@Baud:
I applaud the diversity of opinions on this blog. It’s no wonder it’s almost in the top 10,000.
cain
it is never his problem, it is all about Nancy Pelosi!
Omnes Omnibus
@Bobby Thomson: You aren’t seeing what I am seeing.
Baud
Stupid ignorant question about pushing Dems.
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: This is an existential or metaphysical thing, isn’t it?
Leto
Joe getting mad at Welker: “Why didn’t you tell the Dems to do a covid relief bill?”
”THEY DID IT BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER?”
Again, what office does the FORMER VP hold? /foreheaddesk
Steeplejack
If Nicolle, Joy and Rachel sing Welker’s praises after this, as they were before the debate, I’ma be pretty upset.
Her question to Biden just now: “Why have you not pressed the Democrats to get a deal for the American people?” Jesus H. Christ. That is beyond both-siderism into the Republican-framing zone.
Baud
@Bobby Thomson:
That’s what they thought in the first debate.
WaterGirl
Are you guys back up again?
HumboldtBlue
Let’em go bankrupt.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: It set up Joe for the HEROES Act answer.
Leto
@Baud: Yeah, like I just asked: what office does he hold? JFC bad question. Wallace did the same thing. So dumb.
@Omnes Omnibus: It does, but at the same time it’s bad framing.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Seems a little better.
Steeplejack
Okay, I need to make my (first) rum and tonic. My blood pressure is rising. I feel like Biden is on the defensive a little bit, but it’s all because Trump is spewing complete bullshit. Ugh.
Yutsano
@Steeplejack: He smacked that right back at her.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yes, Joe’s doing well.
cain
@Steeplejack:
I disagree – I think this is where he could have fucking kicked McConnell’s ass. The bill is out there – the Senate is not taking it up.
Omnes Omnibus
Joe is getting angry in a good way.
JWR
Yeah, I’ve about had it with Welker, not because of this muting problem, which as Adam just noted is not hers to control, but with her gawd-awful Qs. “Mr Biden, why aren’t you pushing the Dems to do something about health care?”.
khead
Joe is rolling.
NotMax
“Republicans are going to take the House because of her.” [Pelosi]
HumboldtBlue
Unites States aim hit the mark.
cain
Trump doesn’t know shit about small business
trnc
Joe is doing a good job quickly explaining things I wish more dems would explain, like why the US can deficit spend while the states can’t.
Morzer
I’m suspect that Trump would have been better off just refusing to show up for this debate, wretchedly weak though the moderator has been.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Plugin gone wild. Less fun than Girls Gone Wild. Turned off, hopefully it will be better now.
Yutsano
@WaterGirl: Thank you. I think the gerbils are much happier.
dmsilev
Trump’s “quiet serious voice” is even more offensive than his shouty voice.
Baud
Well, supposedly raining the minimum wage is popular. We’ll see.
John S.
@James E Powell: Just give me 10 seconds to respond to that. ?
mrmoshpotato
@cain: Dump knows about scamming small businesses.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
His presence doesn’t seem to be rattling Joe.
Baud
Child separation.
Omnes Omnibus
@dmsilev: How can you tell?
Anya
@Ivan X: The Obama Bros and associates are loving Joe’s performance. They think Joe is winning.
Leto
@WaterGirl: “Plugin gone wild.”
Little early for BJ IT after dark, but I’ll allow it :P
dmsilev
Immigration trainwreck alert.
Omnes Omnibus
He is refusing to answer the question about kids.
jl
Yes, the moderating is about as bad as Wallace. Biden very sharp, concise and on-point.
My concern is that the pundits will worry that Biden will lose the incoherent ranting and ignorant ‘roid rage’ vote.
And anyone on internet or media get a read on the color swatches to see what Trump’s hue is tonght? I’m guessing forest and tire fire sunset. One of my favorites, to be honest. Point for Trump!
Yutsano
Children separation. 4000 miles of brand new wall?
EDIT: Joe is beating him with facts.
Adam L Silverman
@cain: Mom, is that you?
JWR
@Omnes Omnibus: Good point, and I’ll give her a bit more room before I lay into her again. ;)
Bobby Thomson
@Omnes Omnibus: You live in Wisconsin. Don’t you understand GGG redneck?
dmsilev
@Omnes Omnibus: I have access to sensitive scientific instrumentation.
West of the Cascades
I’m girding myself for the savvy hot takes that “Trump didn’t bite the head off a live bat, tonight is the night he became President.” Time for another drink.
Geminid
@cain: He just knows how to screw small vendors.
mrmoshpotato
@dmsilev:
Yeah. It’s got this gross whisper quality to it like he doesn’t know how to just talk at a normal tone.
Adam L Silverman
@WaterGirl: Who wants to know?
Omnes Omnibus
Biden is good on the refugee kids.
L85NJGT
@Morzer:
I agree. He’s doomed, but this will help pull under some GOP Senate seats.
Kay
@trnc:
He’s capable of going off the question and extending it because he actually knows a lot. It was apparent in the Democratic debates too. He can discuss any of this – you have to know it to be able to do that. He has a lot of experience. Wildly under-rated.
steppy
Fat Bastard’s pupils are YUUGE.
Jeffro
@different-church-lady: I saw that and love it! He’s like Superman, our Joe ;)
Kent
They are in facilities that are SOOOO clean….
khead
Joe is clubbing Trump with the separated kids.
jl
@Yutsano: A Gish Gallop of outrageous lies.
I don’t think Trump has broken a new Biden scandal for 4 or 5 minutes though. Why not?
cain
mute him goddam it!
Morzer
@L85NJGT: Thoughts and prayers for those crooked, racist motherfuckers.
laura
Just an amazing performance by the president of these united states. Easily debunked lies and conspiracies and fantabulizing and redirecting and working the refs. If that pig shagging spackle faced con manages to get reelected I’m going to cut a bitch. If Joe gets elected, I’m still going to side eye republicans till the end of days.
Joe’s good on the separations. It’s criminal and trump is culpable.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Biden is doing fine.
trnc
But he had a great answer. That’s why I like the tough questions.
Leto
@steppy: I can’t unsee that… why’d you do that to me???
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: I’m here. I’m everywhere.
Steeplejack
Okay, back from making a drink.
Did Trump even answer the minimum-wage question, or did he blame it on Hunter Biden somehow? Rhetorical question.
Cameron
@Steeplejack: I don’t think she’s doing him a favor by doing that.
James E Powell
@jl:
They are all deleting the “NEW TONE PIVOT READY TO LEAD” columns they wrote in anticipation of the event.
Baud
Good on immigration. I hope it helps with the Latino vote.
Omnes Omnibus
@Bobby Thomson: Yeah, I live in WI, and I recognize the blowhard at the end of the bar who everyone avoids.
Mary G
She brought up the kids who lost their families. Do you have a plan? Sure! Joe smacks him down. It’s a violation of decency and ruins the name of our country! It’s criminal!
Good job. The moderator parrots Republican talking points – Obama deported more. Joe says DACA kids will get citizenship. Trump keeps saying Obama built the cages.
Bobby Thomson
@Baud: no, Trump completely lost control in the first debate while Biden stayed calm and laughed at him. That showed dominance.
Anya
I wonder if the Biden team has polled attacking Trump’s grifter kids and it didn’t poll well? Maybe that’s why he never mentions the concrete examples of Trump’s use of his public office to enrich himself.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Quinerly: Damned right!!
laura
Solid statement on Dreamers.
patroclus
My take is that while Trump is infinitely better than in the first debate, Joe is kicking ass and taking names on actual policy. If voters are really listening and care about actual policy (COVID; kids in cages; minimum wage, health insurance; Dreamers), then this is an excellent debate for Biden.
Leto
So much accordion hands.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Yarrow:
Schrodinger’s Yarrow : )
Bobby Thomson
@Omnes Omnibus: those blowhards are more numerous than you realize.
dmsilev
Mexican rapists.
Playing the “greatest hits” record.
Immanentize
@Leto: heh
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud:
just a couple of people
HumboldtBlue
RAPIST!
Skepticat
Where is the freaking mute button?
zhena gogolia
@Kay:
Yes.
Kent
You have 525 kids who lost their parents
“good”
Sigh
jl
Do they brainwash all the moderators to parrot GOP talking points before the debate? Or give them drugs? Unbelievable.
Welker almost as bad tonight as Wallace . And Wallace was much worse in moderating the first debate than he usually is in interviews. So, what gives? Anyone know?
cain
Trump has gone back to rapists and other shit. I like the fact that Joe uses his expression to show his feelings on the matter.
Baud
@dmsilev:
It’s coming full circle.
Steeplejack
Oh, jeez—“the talk.” Good issue, but lame-ass question.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Bobby Thomson:
I see you didn’t respond to my reply
James E Powell
@Anya:
Venom isn’t Joe’s brand. Others need to do that if it’s worth doing, i.e., if tests show it moves voter.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kent: You heard that too? I though I imagined it.
dmsilev
Good question.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Bobby Thomson: and their ex-wives, estranged siblings, alienated neighbors and embarrassed children are even more numerous
For your own sake: Go for walk, have a drink, count your breaths.
Something.
NotMax
“Only those with the lowest IQ showed up for immigration hearings.”
head/desk head/desk head/desk
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Bobby Thomson:
Well then I guess we’re doomed Doomed DOOMED!11!
Seriously, take Jim’s advice
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: I saw The Lawnmower Man. It did not end well.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Nope. It was strong.
jl
@Baud: Stacks of CDs in the foyer, discounts, hundreds of the greatest hits, with never before seen outakes!
James E Powell
@NotMax:
What the hell was that about?
Wag
Joe has it.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
I heard it too, but I fear that these sharp little points are getting lost at the end of the exchange. I did note that that shut Trump up. He said, “Go on.”
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: The voice you are referring to is condescending.
mrmoshpotato
“I’m tremendous at the blacks!”
Baud
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: He never mentions it because that’s just not who he is. And he doesn’t have too because The Lincoln Project is doing it for him. They hit Ivanka today and have teased that Jared’s coming. They did Jr at the end of last week.
L85NJGT
Trump’s starting to look like the perps at the end of Dragnet.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Kent: I thought I imagined it!!
Baud
Trump’s meds are wearing off.
dmsilev
Yes, I’m sure this will appeal to the minority communities.
mrmoshpotato
Crying in my office. ?????
Captain C
Did I just hear Trump say “good!” when Biden mentioned the 500+ kids whose parents they can’t find?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Anya:
they’ve been grifting and stupiding for four years, and a whole lot of people don’t seem to care. To my great chagrin and enduring surprise. Joe Biden isn’t gonna wake them up with a quip at this point.
dmsilev
@Baud: “Perhaps” Abraham Lincoln.
Cameron
@jl: He’s out there fighting fires in California while you snark, libtard!
Steeplejack
Man, I don’t know how much more of this I can take. I thought I was fairly immune to Trump’s bullshit, but it is coming in extra strong tonight. And I feel like it is not being countered. Biden is doing a good job, but there’s just too much volume. And I still think Welker is giving Trump more time.
Jeffro
@Wag: Totally. Absolutely and completely.
trnc
@Captain C: He said “Go ahead”
MomSense
@Captain C:
Yes you did. That motherfucking mandarin menace.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: Yes. Condescending orange shitpile.
Quinerly
@Baud: some people say they are interchangeable.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Captain C: Yes. I heard it too.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: How do you make someone who won’t shut up unless you physically restrain him, sedate him, and muzzle him shut up?
That’s the challenge.
Jeffro
@Baud: agreed
zhena gogolia
@L85NJGT:
Hahaha, you’re tempting me to tune in.
Is he dropping bennies and goofballs and chasing them down with cheap port wine?
Kent
@Captain C: Yep, he said it. My daughter says it’s already on twitter
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: good point.
the mic-muting helped. the drugs trumpov’s team put into his system around 7pm tonight helped even more
cain
@Steeplejack:
I am literally shouting – “FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU”
Leto
@dmsilev: Biden bringing up how he continued to call for the death penalty for the exonerated Central Park 5. Good.
Amir Khalid
41 shots:
Lena gets her son ready for school
She says,”On these streets, Charles,you’ve got to understand the rules
If an officer stops you, promise me you’ll always be polite
And that you’ll never ever run away
And promise Mama you’ll keep your hands in sight”
Is that The Talk?
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman:
I’m seeing a few promising options here.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
There’s that lie again and a crying story on top of it.
And a sop to Tim Scott.
And lying about HBCUs.
BASTARD.
cain
@Adam L Silverman:
Joe should have gotten a blow dart and sedate him.
WaterGirl
Site good again for everybody?
Mary G
@NotMax: I was rendered speechless by that one. Law abiding people are stoopid! Joe should have commercials on that in the Spanish language media in half an hour. Lincoln Project too.
Kay
Good. That should be noted. He’s such a nasty piece of work. Couldn’t resist, even with the meds.
Leto
@MomSense: “mandarin menace.“
Oh, I like that!
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
I’m not watching — just clips on Aaron Rupar’s twitter feed — but what I see is not better than how he was in the first debate. People are sick of his domination routine. Biden is like a cool drink of ice water on a hot day.
Adam L Silverman
@Captain C: You did.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Improved. Paws crossed.
TriassicSands
@Baud:
Pretty much no one says “no” to Trump.
Steeplejack
Welker said Biden was going to respond and then tbey would move on, but again she let Trump jump in.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@dmsilev: Tranq darts. Tranq ? are good.
Leto
HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP RUSSIA EMAILS! Drink!
Quinerly
@L85NJGT: I checked over on a Right Winger’s FB page. Those on his page are thrilled. Think Trump is pitch perfect and brilliant tonight. Mostly criticizing Biden for corruptness and his stutter tonight.
HumboldtBlue
Character
cain
@WaterGirl:
Seems okay now..
MomSense
Russhaa Russhaa Russhaa
Omnes Omnibus
@Quinerly: Doesn’t fucking matter. They are a lost cause.
Kent
I’m the least racist person in this room! I can’t even see race!
Leto
He can’t see race now because the lights are too low? Lol, wut?
WaterGirl
@Leto:
It’s the new MAN WOMAN PERSON CAMERA TV?
Baud
Haha. “Abraham Lincoln here…”
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Quinerly:
Those people don’t live in reality, so of course they think he’s hitting it out of the park
zhena gogolia
@Quinerly:
This is no surprise. They’re in a cult.
jl
Serious charge from Trump: IF you are guilty of crimes, then you aren’t innocent. Many people are saying….
I don’t see how Biden can answer that.
dmsilev
“Abraham Lincoln here is one of the most racist Presidents in American history”
WaterGirl
“This guy has a dog whistle as big as a fog horn”
SiubhanDuinne
LOL! “Abraham Lincoln here.” ROFLMAO!!
Omnes Omnibus
“Abraham Lincoln over here….”
Morzer
@mrmoshpotato: General Bonespur’s Chicken – available at all good Chinese takeout and trade war restaurants…
Adam L Silverman
@Jeffro: They’re starting to wear off.
Omnes Omnibus
“Oh god.”
jl
We need to Marsha Marsha Marsha clip with Russia Russia Russia dubbed in.
dmsilev
This is the longest ten seconds I’ve ever seen.
NotMax
“I am the least racist person in this room.”
No bolt of lightning, no yawning chasm opened. So much for that “God hears everything” trope.
HumboldtBlue
dog whistle about as big as a fog horn
FlyingToaster
From what I can tell (not watching; just reading here and Wonkette and Twitter), each side is playing to their base in this debate.
It’s all gonna be GOTV. That’s all that’s left.
Kay
@Leto:
I think he blew it though. It had to be in the first half hour and instead that was all about how he doesn’t pay income taxes. It just didn’t work for some reason.
HumboldtBlue
“oh god”
We feel ya Joe.
This crime bill bullshit is so fucking galling while the GOP funds its private prisons.
What a fucking loaded question.
Mary G
She made a noble effort to talk about race, gets the “nobody since Abraham Lincoln has done more than I have” treatment.
Baud
@Kay:
Plus, it was incoherent.
cain
@NotMax:
This is a lie that EVERYONE knows. Especially his supporters.
WaterGirl
Pop Quiz: one candidate said this about something they had previously done.
“It was a mistake”
Who said it? 10 seconds
Leto
@WaterGirl: Pretty much. Or at least for the next 48 hours.
Suzanne
“Oh, God.”
Say it again, Joe. I feel you.
Eljai
@SiubhanDuinne: Totally with you! Jesus, trump is such a dumbass.
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
Poor stupid Abe didn’t even get the joke. He’s such a dumbass
Kent
‘You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything….Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.’ –Donald Trump
When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the f— are we doing that for? Guy was a f—ing loser,” the president told aides.
“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 Marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. …
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We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature. –Abraham Lincoln.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. – Abraham Lincoln
I can see how easy it is to confuse the two
Steeplejack
Maybe I’ve just got battle fatigue. I’m not feeling great about this debate. I don’t think Biden is losing any ground, but Trump is not taking many hits.
Mary G
@Suzanne: He speaks for millions of us.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@WaterGirl:
Damn, that’s tough. Trump never admits mistakes on the one hand. However, on the other, he always tries to make excuses
Anya
@Amir Khalid: Hi Amir! How do you think Virgil van Dijk’s injury would affect the team? ?
Omnes Omnibus
Trump has about four lines and keeps repeating them.
trnc
@Suzanne: We laughed our asses off at that.
Quinerly
@zhena gogolia: I know. I still dip into these pages once and awhile. Plus, get out of the boat and read on line comments to local news paper articles… I know.. Waste of time. So much sickness
Leto
38k federal prisoners released; “what did you do Joe?”
Fucking maroon.
TS (the original)
@WaterGirl:
I did something else for 10 minutes, came back – it’s good
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: I felt like that maybe 30 minutes ago, but I think Joe is strong again and Trump has turned into his usual disaster.
John Revolta
@Amir Khalid: Yes. Part of raising a Black child in the US of A.
MomSense
Republican Congress!
dmsilev
@Steeplejack: A tie is fine, given where we are in the race.
debbie
@Kent:
Absolutely appalling, especially for a Christian. //
cain
This guy doesn’t know shit about anything climate change.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
And he tries to look out into the audience and he says, “I can’t even see, it’s so dark in here” — I guess he was peeking to see if there were any black folk out there but it was too dark to tell! Maybe they should smile so he can see their teeth.
MomSense
More bullshit means more accordion hands. It’s a fucking tell.
Morzer
@Steeplejack: All we need is a draw and no player injuries.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
Trump started off beating his low expectations. He’s back to his old self.
dmsilev
….does Trump know that his EPA head is basically a Captain Planet villain?
HumboldtBlue
His base is gonna love this.
Tremendous. The best. Never seen them this good.
jl
Trump just said ‘When I’m president’? I guess he listened to so many tapes of his 2016 act, he lost his place?
debbie
@Leto:
Still hasn’t apologized for that. ?
cain
oh shit.. he just insulted India and China – the Indians are going to be pissed about that line. That was a grave mistake.
Quinerly
Did someone say the drugs were wearing off?
mad citizen
@Steeplejack: Just rejoined it after an hour away. Don’t worry, trump is done. One third of the votes are in and millions are voting every day.
Kay
@Baud:
Because the story is incoherent. Their laziness just kills me. They had a solid year to prep that Biden smear and there’s no narrative. I not only don’t know what they’re claiming happened, I don’t know what they’re accusing Biden of doing. There are so many of them! They couldn’t give this fantasy a beginning, middle and end? Why does it start in 2017 now?
Patricia Kayden
Immanentize
Susan Page just made me hate reply:
khead
Joe should’ve just looked straight at the camera and said “If Black folks think you have done so much for them, they SHOULD vote for you”. And then laughed.
Amir Khalid
@Anya:
Fortunately, we still have Fabinho. Let’s pray he doesn’t taken out for the season by some clumsy fool of a goalkeeper.
Omnes Omnibus
Trump is doing the Mussolini pose while Biden speaks.
Leto
The center of his hair patch wasn’t combed over as well this time. Seeing a bit of that Vader scalp.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@dmsilev:
I remember thinking in 2017 that his entire Cabinet were Captain Planet villains
Jim, Foolish Literalist
on twitter a lot of people likely to run into Kristen Welker at a social function are defending her.
Tom Nichols is very much not having it
trnc
Joe is having just a bit more trouble tonight with the stutter. I’m surprised DT hasn’t jumped in and outright made fun of it, but I guess he’s trying to remember the enormous amount of BS he has to spew.
WaterGirl
New debate thread up. #3
West of the Cascades
@Immanentize: Fuck Susan Page, she was a worthless moderator.
errg
It’s just refreshing to listen to someone who says China instead of Jina…
Steeplejack
Thanks for the pep talk, people. I guess what worries me is how this comes across to the “normies”—is that the right word?—who aren’t massively on line like us.
Leto
“AOC plus 3” is my new ska-fusion jazz band name.
jl
@Kay: Trump said ‘IF he committed crimes, then he’s not so innocient… many people are saying…’. Seems like an airtight charge to me. Biden can’t answer that.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Omnes Omnibus:
if that’s the pose I’m thinking of, part of it is sucking in his gut
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Kent: Why he wearing blackface though
Steeplejack
Is this thing about to end? Please don’t tell me it’s going to 11:00.
HumboldtBlue
AOC plus three
What the fuck is that?
MomSense
The Democrats want to steal your windows!
Immanentize
@Steeplejack: That means Biden won, hands down. This wasn’t a prize fight where a KO was a must. Biden needed not to stumble.
Would I have loved an embarrassing crushing of Trump? Absofuckinlutely. But, not necessary because Biden is ahead.
James E Powell
@Steeplejack:
We don’t need “hits” on Trump. He’s swirling around the drain; he is the one who needs “hits” – in fact, he needs back to back to back homers just to tie the game.
I’m not saying it’s over or anything. We have twelve days of getting our people to vote and then making sure those vote are counted.
patroclus
“Abraham Lincoln here” was the best line in a debate since Lloyd Bentsen’s “you’re no Jack Kennedy” line in 1988.
Quinerly
@Omnes Omnibus: Trump is dumb.
I pretty much knew it. Very obvious tonight.
AOC Plus 3….windows…..”tiny, small windows….”
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kent: Like Trump, Lincoln was a Republican, not many people know that.
NotMax
“AOC plus 3.”
Someone in the West Wing got a bonus for coming up with that. Won’t make a lick of sense to the non-base at all.
And now, “I know more about wind than you do.”
different-church-lady
@Omnes Omnibus: There’s a different Mussolini pose I’d like to see him do…
HumboldtBlue
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
There it is, it’s the fucking head tilt.
MomSense
@HumboldtBlue:
I think he’s talking about the squad.
zhena gogolia
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@HumboldtBlue:
Some really fucked up way to refer to the “Squad”, I’m guessing?
Mary G
Suzanne
“Little tiny windows” LMAO LMAO LMAO.
Eljai
Kristen has a lot more questions? I can’t take much more of this. Let’s just wrap it up. It’s been many years since I was on my high school debate team, but I know that you are not allowed to just pull things out of your ass, which is what trump has been doing all night. Biden won this, hands down.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
“Did you know John McCain was a prisoner of war”?
Immanentize
@West of the Cascades: That is pretty much what I replied
HumboldtBlue
@MomSense: @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Oh I know, he’s attacked Bernie the Squad and as Joe said he’s the one running for president.
Immanentize
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: the one where he is hanging upside down on a balcony?
TS (the original)
@Immanentize:
You weren’t the only one. Maybe 1 person agreed with her.
Steeplejack
@Immanentize:
Goddamn, Page should be cordially invited to keep her piehole shut for the duration. She has no credibility at this point.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mary G:
Tiny windows…. in the wine…
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@HumboldtBlue:
It’s a very pathetic line of attack to try to tie Biden to “socialist radicals” who will “use him like a puppet”. I remember that stupid “Trojan Horse” ad
?BillinGlendaleCA
@MomSense: What? Then I’d have to use a Mac.
Immanentize
@TS (the original): ratioed! Sweet!
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Wait, was there an unemployment crisis among MIT valedictorians that he fixed?
Steeplejack
This (hopefully last) question about leadership—“What would you say in your inaugural address to Americans who did not vote for you?”—is complete bullshit.
Kent
Biden nailing the closing
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Shhhh, he didn’t like to talk about it.
James E Powell
@Immanentize:
Not just you. I read the replies. Her take is not very well received.
West of the Cascades
@Steeplejack: It did give Trump a chance to drop his pants and take a dump on the American people. Good Biden answer.
Kent
@Steeplejack: Its’ a softball question to let the do their final pitch. Biden nailed it. Trump fucked it.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Kent:
But what about the drunks at the end of the bar vote!? Biden looked weak! //
Steeplejack
Okay, back to MSNBC. Hopefully Brian Williams is just marking his territory before throwing it to the three.
And if they start squeeing about what a great job Welker did, I might stroke out.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Kent:
I have to admit I’m not watching; can’t stand Trump’s voice. How badly did Trump fuck the question up?
Fraud Guy
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks much.
Suzanne
Mrs. Greenspan just said that “the facts are with Joe Biden”.
Anya
@Amir Khalid: Yeah. Hopefully it doesn’t affect the team morale.
Steeplejack
@Suzanne:
Well, I can relax, then. Whew.
Steeplejack
New thread upstairs (after “On the Road After Dark”).
frosty
@WaterGirl: Never had a problem, here. Thanks for your help!
SiubhanDuinne
@Immanentize:
Susan Page can fuck her own self.
Bobby Thomson
Calmed down. Joe found his groove in the last 20 minutes. Laughing Joe is a winner.
And yeah, his closer started out as mediocre platitudes but finished strong.
Lacking a foil, Trump self immolated by pining for the days “before the plague” when “everyone” thought he was doing a great job.
LongHairedWeirdo
@cain: YES HE DOES! He runs *many* of them. It’s just, they were *LARGE* businesses when he started on them.
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
Has been running okay for me lately.
LongHairedWeirdo
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): “Vote for me or Joe Biden will cause the biggest depression you’ve ever seen, Joe is terrible, I’ll make everything better”. Note: question was, what would you say IN YOUR INAUGURAL to people who didn’t vote for you. Not only was it a rally style ramble, it ignored the question entirely.
(On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if what he’d *really* say to those who didn’t vote for him: “We’re coming for you! You didn’t know a good thing when you had it, did you? You had to try to mess it up! Did you think I’d let you almost send me to jail, and you’d get away with it?”)
JaySinWA
@WaterGirl:
Is this a Toobin poll?
Matt McIrvin
@different-church-lady: Kamala Harris’s account was doing that during her DNC speech. This is what it looks like when you have a competent social media team.
TriassicSands
@WaterGirl:
3, 2, 1…
Abraham Lincoln? (On letting the South back into he US.)
Uncle Cosmo
@Yarrow: Yarvita!
;^p