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The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

Not all heroes wear capes.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

No one could have predicted…

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Everybody saw this coming.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

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Presidential Debate Open Thread, Part II

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The Bobinski dude come up yet?

From the Guardian liveblog:

Trump seemed agitated as he remarked on Biden breaking fundraising records in August and September.

The Democratic nominee raised $364.5 million in September, smashing the previous single-month fundraising record, which Biden had set himself a month earlier.

“I can blow away your records like you couldn’t believe,” the president said. Trump then attacked Biden over ties to Wall Street.

Biden responded by simply saying, “Average contribution: $43.”

TRIGGERED!

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  1. 1.

    cain

    Biden should keep pushing his button by talking about how awesome it is that he has more attention.

  7. 7.

    Leto

    @Baud: Yeah, I’m already annoyed by the tennis match back and forth. Give each one a response, maybe two, move the fuck on.

  11. 11.

    Mary G

    Twitler is being disciplined by not talking over Joe much – his handlers may have planted a shock device in his pants. Starting to fray, though. And drink – MALARKEY!

  21. 21.

    Splitting Image

    I just realized tonight that the main reason Rudy Giuliani was willing to go so far to help defeat Joe Biden is that Biden did to him in 2008 what Obama did to Trump in 2011.

    I mean he’s an evil, corrupt piece of shit too, but I think that Mr. “Noun Verb and 911” was in it for revenge as much as anything else. Strange that I didn’t even think of that until tonight.

  22. 22.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Trump’s strategy seems to be pulling a lot of new bullshit out of his ass that I guess came from a new flood of fake emails? So they haven’t yet been debunked?

  30. 30.

    Leto

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: No, they’ve been debunked but he’s just going to keep on spouting the bullshit. It’s all he has. He doesn’t know facts, policy, information, it’s all conspiracy theories. The first three require study/discipline and that’s not him.

  32. 32.

    Yutsano

    Biden: “I would contain North Korea by pressuring China.”

    I’m paraphrasing. But Joe is right. And calling Kim a thug LOL.

    EDIT: STOP LETTING HIM TALK OVER!!!

  33. 33.

    different-church-lady

    I gotta say, Julia Louis-Dreyfus is doing a heck of a job moderating this thing.

  36. 36.

    NotMax

    If Dolt 45 again brings up anything involving Biden boys having been in the military, the response ought to be, “Remind me, please. What rank did Don Junior and Eric achieve?”

  37. 37.

    Fraud Guy

    So was Bobulinski agitprop, useful idiot, or both.  I have a screamer in my home citing him as reason to have Biden and the entire Democratic Party arrested before they turn us over to China.

  38. 38.

    John S.

    @Leto: She’s only marginally better than previous moderators. She keeps letting the orange shitstain rant and rave like a lunatic. And that’s ok, because he sounds like a lunatic.

  42. 42.

    Central Planning

    I can’t wait for all the analysis of Dolt 45’s facial expressions, like we got about Kamala’s.

  44. 44.

    Steeplejack

    Welker just lost control on the Korea thing. Should have muted Trump instead of doing the futile “Mr. President, we have to move on” thing.

  45. 45.

    Danielx

    I’m liking my contribution to rotating tag lines better all the time, and no sexism intended:

    The President is a whiny little bitch.

  48. 48.

    pat

    I can’t watch.  Trump lies and lies and lies about Biden and all the money he has received from China and Welkin just goes on to the next topic. She is pathetic.

  50. 50.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Baud: 
    Only the Debate Commission has that power, not Welker. Though she doesn’t have to give him “10 secs” to respond every 5 secs

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Fraud Guy: Both. Read this thread:

  57. 57.

    Princess

    I listened to about 30 seconds during the tax stuff and I couldn’t any more. Thanks to those of you with stronger constitutions than I.

  59. 59.

    Bobby Thomson

    @cain: 

    Kristen has been doing pretty good as moderator.

    Holy shit that’s a bad take. She lets Trump take as much time as he wants. She’s weak AF.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    I’m torn: I feel like Biden might be losing a little ground by not doing Trump’s “I need to respond to that” thing, but maybe to do that is just wrestling with the pig. I guess the underlying question is whether anybody believes the crap Trump is spewing. Right now he’s taking credit for the good parts of Obamacare.

  68. 68.

    Ivan X

    So is Joe landing any solid blows? It sounds like he got in a couple of good zingers, but it’s easy to imagine that he isn’t when the jackaltariat keeps coming up with the things he ought to be saying. (I sadly cannot listen to Trump’s voice without violent spasms being induced.)

  72. 72.

    Kay

    @debbie:

    That whole line of attack isn’t working though- I’m not sure why. He just doesn’t seem to be able to tie it together and Biden looks almost bored by it.

  78. 78.

    Bobby Thomson

    The thing is, even though it’s Welker’s fault, a lot of men will see this as Trump being dynamic and taking charge and Biden being weak.  Trump was on the ropes even with male voters and facing an epic beatdown and she just gave him a lifeboat.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    B-J site is really, really, really struggling now.

    “If he’s elected the stock market will crash.” Looney tunes balderdash.

  84. 84.

    Mary G

    Twitler’s attacking Kamala and Bernie, Joe’s going Trumpy “I beat all those people, he’s running against Joe Biden, not somebody else.” Welker has lost control

    Joe’s not talking much, but when he gets a word in, he’s devastating. He’s attacking McConnell saying the HEROES Act has been out for months, Mitch can’t get his people to pass it, why didn’t Twitler drop the hammer on his party’s senators? Excellent.

  88. 88.

    Yutsano

    @Baud: The blog gerbils are definitely wheezing tonight.

    EDIT: Joe bringing up the HEROES act in response to “Why aren’t you pushing the Democrats?” Nice move.

  89. 89.

    mrmoshpotato

    @cain:

    Joe is more liberal than Bernie Sanders… jeeezus. 

    Forget DRINK! on that.  That’s a DO SOME SHROOMS line.

  93. 93.

    James E Powell

    @John S.:

    She keeps letting the orange shitstain rant and rave like a lunatic. And that’s ok, because he sounds like a lunatic.

    @Baud:

    Cut the mike! You have the power!

    I applaud the diversity of opinions on this blog. It’s no wonder it’s almost in the top 10,000.

  98. 98.

    Leto

    Joe getting mad at Welker: “Why didn’t you tell the Dems to do a covid relief bill?”

    ”THEY DID IT BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER?”

    Again, what office does the FORMER VP hold? /foreheaddesk

  99. 99.

    Steeplejack

    If Nicolle, Joy and Rachel sing Welker’s praises after this, as they were before the debate, I’ma be pretty upset.

    Her question to Biden just now: “Why have you not pressed the Democrats to get a deal for the American people?” Jesus H. Christ. That is beyond both-siderism into the Republican-framing zone.

  106. 106.

    Steeplejack

    Okay, I need to make my (first) rum and tonic. My blood pressure is rising. I feel like Biden is on the defensive a little bit, but it’s all because Trump is spewing complete bullshit. Ugh.

  111. 111.

    JWR

    Yeah, I’ve about had it with Welker, not because of this muting problem, which as Adam just noted is not hers to control, but with her gawd-awful Qs. “Mr Biden, why aren’t you pushing the Dems to do something about health care?”.

  116. 116.

    trnc

    Joe is doing a good job quickly explaining things I wish more dems would explain, like why the US can deficit spend while the states can’t.

  117. 117.

    Morzer

    I’m suspect that Trump would have been better off just refusing to show up for this debate, wretchedly weak though the moderator has been.

  131. 131.

    jl

    Yes, the moderating is about as bad as Wallace. Biden very sharp, concise and on-point.

    My concern is that the pundits will worry that Biden will lose the incoherent ranting and ignorant ‘roid rage’ vote.

    And anyone on internet or media get a read on the color swatches to see what Trump’s hue is tonght? I’m guessing forest and tire fire sunset. One of my favorites, to be honest. Point for Trump!

  137. 137.

    West of the Cascades

    I’m girding myself for the savvy hot takes that “Trump didn’t bite the head off a live bat, tonight is the night he became President.” Time for another drink.

  139. 139.

    mrmoshpotato

    @dmsilev:

    Trump’s “quiet serious voice” is even more offensive than his shouty voice. 

    Yeah.  It’s got this gross whisper quality to it like he doesn’t know how to just talk at a normal tone.

  143. 143.

    Kay

    @trnc:

    He’s capable of going off the question and extending it because he actually knows a lot. It was apparent in the Democratic debates too. He can discuss any of this – you have to know it to be able to do that. He has a lot of experience. Wildly under-rated.

  151. 151.

    laura

    Just an amazing performance by the president of these united states. Easily debunked lies and conspiracies and fantabulizing and redirecting and working the refs. If that pig shagging spackle faced con manages to get reelected I’m going to cut a bitch. If Joe gets elected, I’m still going to side eye republicans till the end of days.

    Joe’s good on the separations. It’s criminal and trump is culpable.

  153. 153.

    trnc

    @JWR: Yeah, I’ve about had it with Welker, not because of this muting problem, which as Adam just noted is not hers to control, but with her gawd-awful Qs. “Mr Biden, why aren’t you pushing the Dems to do something about health care?”.

    But he had a great answer. That’s why I like the tough questions.

  156. 156.

    Steeplejack

    Okay, back from making a drink.

    Did Trump even answer the minimum-wage question, or did he blame it on Hunter Biden somehow? Rhetorical question.

  158. 158.

    James E Powell

    @jl:

    My concern is that the pundits will worry that Biden will lose the incoherent ranting and ignorant ‘roid rage’ vote.

    They are all deleting the “NEW TONE PIVOT READY TO LEAD” columns they wrote in anticipation of the event.

  161. 161.

    Mary G

    She brought up the kids who lost their families. Do you have a plan? Sure! Joe smacks him down. It’s a violation of decency and ruins the name of our country! It’s criminal!

    Good job. The moderator parrots Republican talking points – Obama deported more. Joe says DACA kids will get citizenship. Trump keeps saying Obama built the cages.

  162. 162.

    Bobby Thomson

    @Baud: no, Trump completely lost control in the first debate while Biden stayed calm and laughed at him.  That showed dominance.

  163. 163.

    Anya

    I wonder if the Biden team has polled attacking Trump’s grifter kids and it didn’t poll well? Maybe that’s why he never mentions the concrete examples of Trump’s use of his public office to enrich himself.

  166. 166.

    patroclus

    My take is that while Trump is infinitely better than in the first debate, Joe is kicking ass and taking names on actual policy.  If voters are really listening and care about actual policy (COVID; kids in cages; minimum wage, health insurance; Dreamers), then this is an excellent debate for Biden.

  177. 177.

    jl

    Do they brainwash all the moderators to parrot GOP talking points before the debate? Or give them drugs? Unbelievable.

    Welker almost as bad tonight as Wallace . And Wallace was much worse in moderating the first debate than he usually is in interviews. So, what gives? Anyone know?

  178. 178.

    cain

    Trump has gone back to rapists and other shit. I like the fact that Joe uses his expression to show his feelings on the matter.

  182. 182.

    James E Powell

    @Anya:

    Venom isn’t Joe’s brand. Others need to do that if it’s worth doing, i.e., if tests show it moves voter.

  185. 185.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Bobby Thomson: and their ex-wives, estranged siblings, alienated neighbors and embarrassed children are even more numerous

    For your own sake: Go for walk, have a drink, count your breaths.

    Something.

  186. 186.

    NotMax

    “Only those with the lowest IQ showed up for immigration hearings.”

    head/desk head/desk head/desk

  193. 193.

    Steeplejack

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I heard it too, but I fear that these sharp little points are getting lost at the end of the exchange. I did note that that shut Trump up. He said, “Go on.”

  197. 197.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Anya: He never mentions it because that’s just not who he is. And he doesn’t have too because The Lincoln Project is doing it for him. They hit Ivanka today and have teased that Jared’s coming. They did Jr at the end of last week.

  203. 203.

    Captain C

    Did I just hear Trump say “good!” when Biden mentioned the 500+ kids whose parents they can’t find?

  204. 204.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Anya:

    I wonder if the Biden team has polled attacking Trump’s grifter kids and it didn’t poll well?

    they’ve been grifting and stupiding for four years, and a whole lot of people don’t seem to care. To my great chagrin and enduring surprise. Joe Biden isn’t gonna wake them up with a quip at this point.

  207. 207.

    Steeplejack

    Man, I don’t know how much more of this I can take. I thought I was fairly immune to Trump’s bullshit, but it is coming in extra strong tonight. And I feel like it is not being countered. Biden is doing a good job, but there’s just too much volume. And I still think Welker is giving Trump more time.

  214. 214.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jl: How do you make someone who won’t shut up unless you physically restrain him, sedate him, and muzzle him shut up?

    That’s the challenge.

  216. 216.

    zhena gogolia

    @L85NJGT:

    Hahaha, you’re tempting me to tune in.

    Is he dropping bennies and goofballs and chasing them down with cheap port wine?

  221. 221.

    Amir Khalid

    41 shots:

    Lena gets her son ready for school

    She says,”On these streets, Charles,you’ve got to understand the rules

    If an officer stops you, promise me you’ll always be polite

    And that you’ll never ever run away

    And promise Mama you’ll keep your hands in sight”

    Is that The Talk?

  226. 226.

    Mary G

    @NotMax: I was rendered speechless by that one. Law abiding people are stoopid! Joe should have commercials on that in the Spanish language media in half an hour. Lincoln Project too.

  227. 227.

    Kay

    Jonathan Chait
    @jonathanchait
    ·4m
    Did Trump just respond to Biden citing 525 kids separated from their parents with “Good”?

    Good. That should be noted. He’s such a nasty piece of work. Couldn’t resist, even with the meds.

  229. 229.

    zhena gogolia

    @Steeplejack:

    I’m not watching — just clips on Aaron Rupar’s twitter feed — but what I see is not better than how he was in the first debate. People are sick of his domination routine. Biden is like a cool drink of ice water on a hot day.

  233. 233.

    Steeplejack

    Welker said Biden was going to respond and then tbey would move on, but again she let Trump jump in.

  236. 236.

    Quinerly

    @L85NJGT: I checked over on a Right Winger’s FB page. Those on his page are thrilled. Think Trump is pitch perfect and brilliant tonight. Mostly criticizing Biden for corruptness and his stutter tonight.

  247. 247.

    jl

    Serious charge from Trump: IF you are guilty of crimes, then you aren’t innocent. Many people are saying….

    I don’t see how Biden can answer that.

  257. 257.

    NotMax

    “I am the least racist person in this room.”

    No bolt of lightning, no yawning chasm opened. So much for that “God hears everything” trope.

  259. 259.

    FlyingToaster

    From what I can tell (not watching; just reading here and Wonkette and Twitter), each side is playing to their base in this debate.

    It’s all gonna be GOTV.  That’s all that’s left.

  260. 260.

    Kay

    @Leto:

    I think he blew it though. It had to be in the first half hour and instead that was all about how he doesn’t pay income taxes. It just didn’t work for some reason.

  261. 261.

    HumboldtBlue

    “oh god”

    We feel ya Joe.

    This crime bill bullshit is so fucking galling while the GOP funds its private prisons.

    What a fucking loaded question.

  262. 262.

    Mary G

    She made a noble effort to talk about race, gets the “nobody since Abraham Lincoln has done more than I have” treatment.

  270. 270.

    Kent

    ‘You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything….Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.’ –Donald Trump

    When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the f— are we doing that for? Guy was a f—ing loser,” the president told aides.

    “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 Marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. …

    ——————————————-

    We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature. –Abraham Lincoln.

    It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. – Abraham Lincoln

    I can see how easy it is to confuse the two

  271. 271.

    Steeplejack

    Maybe I’ve just got battle fatigue. I’m not feeling great about this debate. I don’t think Biden is losing any ground, but Trump is not taking many hits.

  273. 273.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @WaterGirl:

    Damn, that’s tough. Trump never admits mistakes on the one hand. However, on the other, he always tries to make excuses

  277. 277.

    Quinerly

    @zhena gogolia: I know. I still dip into these pages once and awhile. Plus, get out of the boat and read on line comments to local news paper articles… I know.. Waste of time. So much sickness

  286. 286.

    zhena gogolia

    @NotMax:

    And he tries to look out into the audience and he says, “I can’t even see, it’s so dark in here” — I guess he was peeking to see if there were any black folk out there but it was too dark to tell! Maybe they should smile so he can see their teeth.

  292. 292.

    jl

    Trump just said ‘When I’m president’? I guess he listened to so many tapes of his 2016 act, he lost his place?

  294. 294.

    cain

    oh shit.. he just insulted India and China – the Indians are going to be pissed about that line. That was a grave mistake.

  297. 297.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    Because the story is incoherent. Their laziness just kills me. They had a solid year to prep that Biden smear and there’s no narrative. I not only don’t know what they’re claiming happened, I don’t know what they’re accusing Biden of doing. There are so many of them! They couldn’t give this fantasy a beginning, middle and end? Why does it start in 2017 now?

  299. 299.

    Immanentize

    Susan Page just made me hate reply:

    This isn't the first time an incumbent president has had a disastrous first debate, then seemed to learned some lessons for the second. Witness Reagan in 1984 and Obama in 2012.— Susan Page (@SusanPage) October 23, 2020

  300. 300.

    khead

    Joe should’ve just looked straight at the camera and said “If Black folks think you have done so much for them, they SHOULD vote for you”. And then laughed.

  301. 301.

    Amir Khalid

    @Anya:

    Fortunately, we still have Fabinho.  Let’s pray he doesn’t taken out for the season by some clumsy fool of a goalkeeper.

  303. 303.

    Leto

    The center of his hair patch wasn’t combed over as well this time. Seeing a bit of that Vader scalp.

  304. 304.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @dmsilev:

    ….does Trump know that his EPA head is basically a Captain Planet villain?

    I remember thinking in 2017 that his entire Cabinet were Captain Planet villains

  305. 305.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    on twitter a lot of people likely to run into Kristen Welker at a social function are defending her.

    Tom Nichols is very much not having it

    Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom ·2m
    Trump has gotten the last word on every subject here. If this is debate moderation, it’s a version of debate moderation I’ve never seen before

  306. 306.

    trnc

    Joe is having just a bit more trouble tonight with the stutter. I’m surprised DT hasn’t jumped in and outright made fun of it, but I guess he’s trying to remember the enormous amount of BS he has to spew.

  310. 310.

    Steeplejack

    Thanks for the pep talk, people. I guess what worries me is how this comes across to the “normies”—is that the right word?—who aren’t massively on line like us.

  312. 312.

    jl

    @Kay: Trump said ‘IF he committed crimes, then he’s not so innocient… many people are saying…’. Seems like an airtight charge to me. Biden can’t answer that.

  318. 318.

    Immanentize

    @Steeplejack: That means Biden won, hands down.  This wasn’t a prize fight where a KO was a must.  Biden needed not to stumble.

    Would I have loved an embarrassing crushing of Trump?  Absofuckinlutely.  But, not necessary because Biden is ahead.

  319. 319.

    James E Powell

    @Steeplejack:

    We don’t need “hits” on Trump. He’s swirling around the drain; he is the one who needs “hits” – in fact, he needs back to back to back homers just to tie the game.

    I’m not saying it’s over or anything. We have twelve days of getting our people to vote and then making sure those vote are counted.

  320. 320.

    patroclus

    “Abraham Lincoln here” was the best line in a debate since Lloyd Bentsen’s “you’re no Jack Kennedy” line in 1988.

  323. 323.

    NotMax

    “AOC plus 3.”

    Someone in the West Wing got a bonus for coming up with that. Won’t make a lick of sense to the non-base at all.

    And now, “I know more about wind than you do.”

  331. 331.

    Eljai

    Kristen has a lot more questions?  I can’t take much more of this.  Let’s just wrap it up.  It’s been many years since I was on my high school debate team, but I know that you are not allowed to just pull things out of your ass, which is what trump has been doing all night.  Biden won this, hands down.

  338. 338.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Mary G:

    The new tone folks are on their 1000th Lucy and football. I mean tiny windows? What?—

    Tiny windows…. in the wine…

  339. 339.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @HumboldtBlue:

    It’s a very pathetic line of attack to try to tie Biden to “socialist radicals” who will “use him like a puppet”. I remember that stupid “Trojan Horse” ad

  343. 343.

    Steeplejack

    This (hopefully last) question about leadership—“What would you say in your inaugural address to Americans who did not vote for you?”—is complete bullshit.

  349. 349.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Kent:

    Biden nailing the closing

    But what about the drunks at the end of the bar vote!? Biden looked weak! //

  350. 350.

    Steeplejack

    Okay, back to MSNBC. Hopefully Brian Williams is just marking his territory before throwing it to the three.

    And if they start squeeing about what a great job Welker did, I might stroke out.

  351. 351.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Kent:

    Its’ a softball question to let the do their final pitch.  Biden nailed it.  Trump fucked it.

    I have to admit I’m not watching; can’t stand Trump’s voice. How badly did Trump fuck the question up?

  359. 359.

    Bobby Thomson

    Calmed down.  Joe found his groove in the last 20 minutes.  Laughing Joe is a winner.

    And yeah, his closer started out as mediocre platitudes but finished strong.

    Lacking a foil, Trump self immolated by pining for the days “before the plague” when “everyone” thought he was doing a great job.

  362. 362.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): “Vote for me or Joe Biden will cause the biggest depression you’ve ever seen, Joe is terrible, I’ll make everything better”. Note: question was, what would you say IN YOUR INAUGURAL to people who didn’t vote for you. Not only was it a rally style ramble, it ignored the question entirely.

    (On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if what he’d *really* say to those who didn’t vote for him: “We’re coming for you! You didn’t know a good thing when you had it, did you? You had to try to mess it up! Did you think I’d let you almost send me to jail, and you’d get away with it?”)

  366. 366.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Yarrow: Yarvita!

    Don’t bitch at me, Balloon Juicers!
    The truth is, I never left here!
    All through these dark days, this bad existence,
    I’ve kept my presence at six feet distance…

    ;^p

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