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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Biden-Harris 2020 / Thursday Morning Open Thread: Durga Puja

Thursday Morning Open Thread: Durga Puja

by Anne Laurie|  October 22, 20207:04 am| 137 Comments

This post is in: Biden-Harris 2020, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Religion

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“May these nine days and nine nights bring you and your family good health and fortune. Wishing you a very Happy Durga Puja.”

“May Goddess Durga bestow her nine forms of blessings on you and your family: Fame, Wealth, Prosperity, Name, Happiness, Education, Health, Power, and Commitment. Happy Durga Puja.”

Wikipedia tells me that “the festival epitomises the victory of good over evil, though it is also in part a harvest festival celebrating the goddess as the motherly power behind all of life and creation.” Politics aside, I am very much in favor of both harvest festivals, and the triumph of goodness.

"Just by virtual of one single election, things don't become perfect. But you get yourself on a pattern, on a habit, of being better represented and getting better served by your government." – @BarackObama

— Karine Jean-Pierre (@K_JeanPierre) October 21, 2020

Democrats to boycott committee vote on Barrett nomination to the Supreme Court https://t.co/HBdGxVZXPD

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 22, 2020

My father, @MelBrooks, is 94. He has never made a political video. Until now. #MelBrooks4JoeBiden#BidenHarris#GrassrootsDemHQ pic.twitter.com/yQZhopSbNV

— Max Brooks (@maxbrooksauthor) October 21, 2020

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  1. 1.

    mali muso

    October 22, 2020 at 7:07 am

    Good morning! PBO’s en fuego speech yesterday was the shot in the arm I needed.

  2. 2.

    debbie

    October 22, 2020 at 7:09 am

    “Just by virtual [virtue] of one single election, things don’t become perfect. But you get yourself on a pattern, on a habit, of being better represented and getting better served by your government.” – @BarackObama

    Just by virtue of one single election, we either hold on to or lose the dream that America represents.

  3. 3.

    rikyrah

    October 22, 2020 at 7:14 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  4. 4.

    different-church-lady

    October 22, 2020 at 7:15 am

    If my watch is correct, it’s been nearly eleven hours since Rudy Giuliani has done something unbelievable.

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:17 am

    @mali muso: It was great.  44 really stuck it to the rancid meatbag of failure that followed him.

  6. 6.

    Mary G

    October 22, 2020 at 7:17 am

    I have an ad that “The Republicans Need Your Help.” Ha.

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 7:18 am

    Been a while since I shared a nugget cadged from that hefty volume of curiosities published in England in 1811.

    Turns out reading isn’t so fundamental after all.

    ;)

    Oh, one other thing. For those who watch stuff on Hulu, they’re ba-a-a-ack.

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:18 am

    @different-church-lady: Be patient.  I think it’s Ghouliani’s moose-humping day.

  9. 9.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:20 am

    @Mary G: Straightjackets, institutions, slaps across the face with rotten fish, rocketships into the Sun…

  10. 10.

    Betty Cracker

    October 22, 2020 at 7:26 am

    Two armed men dressed as security guards set up a tent outside an early voting location in downtown St. Pete yesterday. When questioned by the cops, they said they were licensed security guards hired by the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign denies it.

    Both the supervisor of elections and the sheriff in that county are Republicans who are running for reelection. They claim they will not allow armed people to intimidate voters. To their credit, they did run the “security guards” off. It’s not clear if they took names and plan to investigate now that the Trump campaign says they did not hire them.

  11. 11.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @NotMax: ???? NARF!

    ETA – We could’ve known if Bill Clinton still plays the sax. ?

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 7:27 am

    Who’s up for a little nice news story to start your day?

  13. 13.

    debbie

    October 22, 2020 at 7:32 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m disappointed the article in your link doesn’t include a photograph of the “guards.”

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 7:35 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    Pure conjecture but I don’t think it’s oral sax he is reticent about.

    ;)

  15. 15.

    geg6

    October 22, 2020 at 7:42 am

    @NotMax:

    Lovely story. Thanks, I needed that.

    I also needed my state’s AG on Morning Joe. He is awesome. Took on the Catholic Church and crushed them. Took on UPMC’s move to monopolize health insurance in my region, and eventually the entire state, and beat the hell out of them. Has taken on every challenge to our election and process by Mango Mussolini and his minions in the state leg and won resoundingly every time. So happy and proud to have voted to re-elect him. Josh Shapiro is a superstar.

  16. 16.

    MagdaInBlack

    October 22, 2020 at 7:43 am

    Pouring here in Chicagoland. I see all the usual underpasses are flooded.
    I LOVED Obama with NFLTG .

  17. 17.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 7:43 am

    @debbie

    Will this photo do?

    //

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @NotMax: Ha ha.

    Original theme

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    October 22, 2020 at 7:44 am

    @debbie: Yeah, the incident was covered by other local media outlets, but I didn’t see any photos. The sheriff’s office is supposed to provide an update this morning. According to the SoE, the sheriff confirmed the men were licensed guards from a real security company. So, if the Trump campaign spokesperson lied when she said they didn’t hire them, the company should have the receipts.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  21. 21.

    Kay

    October 22, 2020 at 7:46 am

    The Trump justices blocking curbside voting almost certainly violates the ADA. All the voters who are affected by this should demand the ADA protections, which in Ohio means two pollworkers, a Republican and a Democrat, have to go out to their vehicle with a ballot and a clipboard.

  22. 22.

    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

    October 22, 2020 at 7:46 am

    Obummer’s speech was a big disappointment. Not once did he mention oligarchs or Scandinavia.

  23. 23.

    debbie

    October 22, 2020 at 7:47 am

    @Betty Cracker: 

    Good. I was surprised not to see any of this nonsense when I voted early.

  24. 24.

    Betty Cracker

    October 22, 2020 at 7:49 am

    According to our small town rag, a number of Democrats in our county received the “vote for Trump or we’ll come after you” email allegedly from the Proud Boys, which Trump’s DNI toady says is really from Iran. Neither my husband nor I received the threat, so we feel kinda left out…

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:49 am

    @debbie: Here you go.

  26. 26.

    debbie

    October 22, 2020 at 7:50 am

    @Betty Cracker: 

    I find the assertion it was Iran to be suspect. The Boys are grown enough to manage their own mailings.

  27. 27.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 7:52 am

    @MagdaInBlack: Yes.  A good mix of rain – DOWNPOUR! – rain – DOWNPOUR!

  28. 28.

    Spanky

    October 22, 2020 at 7:52 am

    @Betty Cracker: 
    Dear Betty Cracker,
    It has come to our attention that you’re a dirty pinko Democrat, so you’d better vote for the orange shitbag or else!

    Signed,
    Not at all proud bois

  29. 29.

    Chyron HR

    October 22, 2020 at 7:52 am

    @debbie:

    Just by virtue of one single election, we either hold on to or lose the dream that America represents.

    Yes, but if you try to tell progressives that then they just respond, “GIVe mE a rEAsON to VOTe wiThOUt MentIONInG ThE FOUrtH rEIch.”

  30. 30.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 7:53 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    It was Iran. They heard Trump was trying to sabotage the Post Office and decided to send some letters to help prop it up.

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 7:53 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    DeadNugentheads?

    :)

  32. 32.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 7:57 am

    Pennsylvania AG is good.

  33. 33.

    Princess

    October 22, 2020 at 7:59 am

    Re-upping the convo from last night: I think the voters of Kentucky are entitled to hear some information about the health condition of Mitch McConnell before they vote for senator in this election. The skin around his mouth on the bridge of his nose is showing bruising and his hand is blackened and showing a weeping sore on his thumb.

    https://www.thelist.com/265634/heres-why-everyone-is-talking-about-mitch-mcconnells-hands/

  34. 34.

    different-church-lady

    October 22, 2020 at 7:59 am

    @NotMax:  Wow — I know trailers are filled with the best moments, but if that’s any indication they’re even sharper than they were in the 90s.

  35. 35.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 7:59 am

    @Betty Cracker:  Explain to me how this “intimidates” voters? Fuck em.

  36. 36.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 8:01 am

    Time magazine replacing “Time” on there cover with “Vote”

  37. 37.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 8:02 am

    Can someone please explain??

    So emails were actually sent to Democrats threatening them and their families if they did not vote for Trump — check

    These emails were signed “Proud Boys” — check

    So this was a somehow an anti-Trump effort?

    Cooked up in Iran?

    Help! I’m melting!!!!

  38. 38.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 8:04 am

    @David ?Booooooo!? Koch: No mention of raking, vacuuming or his Daddy Vladdy.

  39. 39.

    sanjeevs

    October 22, 2020 at 8:05 am

    @Immanentize:  Yes just like Obamagate was a plot against Trump where they broadcast an investigation of Hilary’s emails whilst hiding the Trump counterintelligence investigation

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @immanentize

    “You don’t got-a da code book?”
      – Chico Marx

  41. 41.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 22, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @debbie: According to something I read yesterday and am too uninterested to research today, the Proud Boys lost control of their domain name somehow. So no, they do not seem competent to manage their own mailings.

  42. 42.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 8:09 am

    @Chyron HR: Have the dirtbag left called Biden a corporate whore yet who won’t give them free college, free healthcare, and a unicorn butler that shits rainbows out of its eyes?

  43. 43.

    John S.

    October 22, 2020 at 8:10 am

    @Baud: Voter participation is already through the roof, and likely to be the highest in more than 100 years.

    I have to believe people are not crawling through broken glass in the middle of a pandemic and driving record turnout to vote for a shitstain who barely squeaked by the first time around.

  44. 44.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @sanjeevs: Roger Stone was friends with the Proud Boys.  Proud Boys are notorious dummy thugs.  One of the top Proud Boys who was recently arrested has allegedly been singing to the Feds.

    Occam’s razor and my magic eight ball do not point to Iran.

  45. 45.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @NotMax: Swordfish!

  46. 46.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 8:12 am

    @NotMax: Exactly.

  47. 47.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 8:13 am

    @Gin & Tonic

    There’s sketch in there somewhere of Adolf raving “You’re telling me Churchill snatched up hitler.com?”

    :)

  48. 48.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 8:13 am

    @John S.:

    We gotta keep up the pressure for the next few days.  Advertising works.

  49. 49.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 8:14 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    the Proud Boys lost control of their domain name somehow.

    Didn’t the gays snatch it?

  50. 50.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 8:14 am

    @different-church-lady: United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama…

  51. 51.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @Immanentize:

     
    The Canary Sang but Couldn’t Fly: The Fatal Fall of Abe Reles

  52. 52.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 8:17 am

    @raven: What do you take for a haddock?

  53. 53.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 22, 2020 at 8:18 am

    @Baud: The gays took over the Twitter hashtag #ProudBoys. I’m talking about the domain name, like presumably proudboys.com. No, I’m not going to try going there, and I’m not going to spend any more time on this.

  54. 54.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 8:18 am

    @raven: Great cover on that book!

  55. 55.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 8:21 am

    As I predicted

    Former Vice President Joe Biden said he would appoint a commission to study the U.S. court system and make recommendations for reform. President Donald Trump looks back to a pre-COVID economy and calls out China as America’s enemy.

     

    Their answers come in separate interviews on CBS News’ “60 Minutes” set to air Sunday – just nine days before the U.S. election.

  56. 56.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 8:22 am

    @Immanentize: I was going to point it out. Peter Falk played a great Reles and the scene where they trow him out da window looks just like that cover!

  57. 57.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 8:24 am

    @Immanentize: Talk talk talk, why don’t you go home to your wife? I’ll tell you what, I’ll go home to your wife and outside of the improvement she’ll never know the difference!

  58. 58.

    Aleta

    October 22, 2020 at 8:26 am

    Reporters should publish the name of the security company.  I wish the story had been that two people (named) had been arrested for setting up a tent and carrying guns outside a St. Pete polling location, if they were inside the boundary of illegal activity.

    I wonder what the the security company charges for such a job, and how they categorize it.  I  mean, they’re not protecting a person or a private business.  And what pay scale did the hired boots settle for?  (I bet it wasn’t even nightclub bouncer level.)  Does their contract  have a clause ensuring they’ll still be paid if chased off or arrested?  Somehow I doubt it.

  59. 59.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @raven: ”

    Murder, Inc. was filmed in and around New York City, and the cast consisted largely of actors from the off-Broadway theater. Peter Falk recalled in his autobiography Just One More Thing that the film was “no big deal for Twentieth Century Fox. They hired second-tier stars, nobody had ever heard of them. The cast of off-Broadway stage actors, including me, came cheap. A few dollars a week and a bag of peanuts.” [4]

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @raven

    Trivia:

    Fairly well known that Peter Falk had a glass eye. Less known is that so did Leo (Rumpole) McKern.

  61. 61.

    Butter Emails

    October 22, 2020 at 8:30 am

    Given recent Supreme Court rulings on voting, I think Congress would be fully justified passing the following if unable to right size the Supreme Court.

    The Supreme Court Integrity and Transparency Act

    1. All decisions and stays must be written personally and in their entirety by one or more Supreme Court Justices. The decisions and stays must be hand written on vellum using a quill pen and ink
    2. Following the completion of the document, a date will be set for an official reading of the document on the Mall. The reading must be broadly publicized for at least two weeks prior to the reading to allow for informing and travel of interested parties
    3. The official reading must be done by the primary author with concurring Justices flanking. In the event that the primary author is unable to speak, a surrogate may be chosen from among the concurring Justices.
    4. The official reading must be available to and in the presence of and proximity to the general public such that the public is able to provide immediate feedback.
    5. Dissenting Justices must be permitted to appear and read their dissents, but are not required to do so
    6. Following the reading, all concurring justices must remain for 6 hours and receive public feedback
    7. The decision writer must then successfully fight to the death, bare-handed an animal selected by the dissenting justices. In the event no dissents, this requirement is waved
    8. Until such a time as all the above conditions are met, the decision does not go into effect
  62. 62.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 22, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @NotMax: Didn’t McKern play Number Two?

  63. 63.

    Betty Cracker

    October 22, 2020 at 8:31 am

    @Baud: Here’s the clip:

    WATCH: In an interview with Joe Biden for @60Minutes, @CBSEveningNews' @NorahODonnell pressed Biden on his position on so-called "court packing." It's a controversial proposal that would add justices to the Supreme Court, from its current nine.

    More Sunday on @CBS. pic.twitter.com/iFvatE6ZP6

    — CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) October 22, 2020

    Good answer.

  64. 64.

    Raoul Paste

    October 22, 2020 at 8:33 am

    George Will says this about Trump. “he is about to have an encounter with a surly electorate wielding a truncheon“

    Make it so

  65. 65.

    Bruce K

    October 22, 2020 at 8:33 am

    Meanwhile in Greece, the local flavor of neo-Nazis, Golden Dawn, got the hammer dropped on them by the criminal courts at their sentencing hearing. Thirteen years apiece for the party leader and a number of former GD parliamentarians for running a criminal organization, plus life in prison for the GD member who knifed antifa rapper Pavlos Fyssas to death.

    That’s how Nazis get handled in the civilized world.

    (In less good news, COVID is spiking badly here. New cases shot up from 400 to 600 to 800 in the space of three days. Curfews and regional lockdowns are being put into place.)

  66. 66.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 8:34 am

    @raven: My boy, get in there and play like you did in the last game. I’ve got five dollars bet on the other team.

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 8:36 am

    Gin &Tonic

    Yup, more than once. Also Cromwell in A Man for All Seasons, among other storied roles.

  68. 68.

    TS (the original)

    October 22, 2020 at 8:36 am

    @Immanentize:

    Occam’s razor and my magic eight ball do not point to Iran.

    Given what trump has done to Iran, there is surely no way they would want him re-elected, let alone help him along the way.

  69. 69.

    Danielx

    October 22, 2020 at 8:37 am

    @mrmoshpotato: 
    The day is young.

  70. 70.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 8:38 am

    @raven: I just had to listen to “Hello I Must be Going.” My son loved that song when he was 7 or so.  I still love it

  71. 71.

    Ken

    October 22, 2020 at 8:42 am

    @Gin & Tonic: If you mean The Prisoner, yes, McKern was Number Two in several episodes.

  72. 72.

    hueyplong

    October 22, 2020 at 8:43 am

    @Immanentize:  Our kids were big on “Whatever It Is, I’m Against It,” from Horse Feathers.

  73. 73.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 8:44 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    But will a task force that includes conservative republicans agree that the court should be expanded

    It is a good answer to give to 60 Minutes before the election.  It’s an excellent answer.

    After the task force assembles, though, I don’t expect an expanded court.  Unless Biden and/or Harris steps in to make the final decision. Every democrat on that committee will say yes and every republican will say no.

  74. 74.

    Jeffro

    October 22, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @mali muso:  It’s funny, I was thinking of watching it all over again later today.

    That, and the video of Biden receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

    12 days, peeps!

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 8:47 am

    @Immanentize

    Bittersweet at the time and no less so now.

  76. 76.

    Geminid

    October 22, 2020 at 8:47 am

    @Immanentize: I wonder if an “Occam’s Eightball” would sell.

  77. 77.

    Bruuuuce

    October 22, 2020 at 8:49 am

    It’s good to see Mel Brooks on the right side of the History of the World, though it’s not at all surprising.

    And wow, could he play Miracle Max, looking how he does now, or what?

  78. 78.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @hueyplong:

    Kalmar/Ruby wrote some great songs.  My favorite was “Everyone Says I Love You.”

    “Three Little Words” was their best.  It became a jazz standard.  I also think “Nevertheless, I’m in love with you” was a masterpiece.

    I never saw the biopic about them.  I assume it was largely fictional, as most biopics are.

  79. 79.

    Jeffro

    October 22, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @Baud: I think it’s a smart move on Biden’s part.  Kick the can past the election, have the commission recommend the obvious (greatly expand the federal courts; review the appointments of judges who were rated ‘unfit’ or whatever and/or who had never tried a case as a lawyer; add 2 justices minimum to SCOTUS), and move on.

    Repubs will howl but they always howl, so who cares?

  80. 80.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 22, 2020 at 8:55 am

    @NotMax:

    “If your eye falls on a bargain, pick it up.” — Leonard Q. Ross (Leo Rosten), The Education of H*Y*M*A*N   K*A*P*L*A*N

  81. 81.

    Bruuuuce

    October 22, 2020 at 8:56 am

    There’s a series of ads running on NYC newsradio. Essentially all the same, they target state Senators who voted to repeal cash bail, with threatening music and the same statistics: “police say that 3000 released prisoners committed over 9000 crimes after the repeal.” They also talk up the fear about defunding the police and how neighborhoods will be unsafe (at least two of these ads are for state Senators from suburban areas). At first I tuned them out, but then I listened to the small print at the end, and lo and behold, they’re being run by the Police Benevolent Association and some similar groups, and “were not solicited and not requested by any candidate or party.”

    In Michigan, the Association of Police Chiefs is saying that they cannot and will not enforce the ban on firearms at polling places “because it’s not a law.”

    Definitely time to disband the police unions. And maybe some firings for cause (i.e., failure to do their jobs) is in order for some chiefs.

  82. 82.

    Uncle Jeffy

    October 22, 2020 at 8:57 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Ever notice how butt-ugly so many of these RWNJs are?

  83. 83.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 8:58 am

    @germy

    The film is kind of sappy and slapdash. Red Skelton is not allowed to be Red Skelton and Fred Astaire is restrained form being Fred Astaire.

  84. 84.

    Citizen Scientist

    October 22, 2020 at 9:00 am

    Good morning everyone. Hoping the low-level anxiety I’ve been feeling lately is diminished once I turn in my mail-in ballot today.

    Short, but possibly humorous anecdote: For months, friends, family members, casual acquaintances have been telling me that my dad is the spitting image of Dr. Fauci. I really didn’t see it until a few weeks ago, I walked into one of our local pizza places with my dad to pick up an order, and the guy at the counter yells out “Hey Dr. Fauci!”. I laughed mainly because I finally saw that with a mask on, Dad does look very much like the man himself, similar build, hair, eyes, etc. The main difference would be that my father’s NE Ohio accent is in no way similar to Dr. Fauci’s NYer drawl (that and my dad has a Ph D in entomology, not anything regarding medicine). Later that week, I saw a still photo from that interaction between Dr. F and Rand Paul during his Senate testimony, and it made me finally admit that, yes, dad really does look like Fauci.

    Have a great day everyone. 12 more days to hang in there.

  85. 85.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @Geminid: I would buy one.  You can design your own 8balls on etsy.  I was thinking I would get one for my son where every answer is some version of “no” and “don’t try it”

  86. 86.

    narya

    October 22, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @mrmoshpotato: @MagdaInBlack: 
    Which meant I did NOT go for a run. But I’ve been trying to build in some strength work, so I did that for awhile.

  87. 87.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @NotMax:

    Red Skelton is not allowed to be Red Skelton

    Good.

     

    Fred Astaire is restrained form being Fred Astaire.

    Not good.

  88. 88.

    different-church-lady

    October 22, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @Uncle Jeffy: Mandatory.

  89. 89.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @Uncle Jeffy:

    Ever notice how butt-ugly so many of these RWNJs are? 

    You mean the members of the “master race?”

  90. 90.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @Citizen Scientist:

    Tell him to be careful!

    Did you see Fauci on 60 Minutes?  He and his family need armed guards now.

  91. 91.

    MomSense

    October 22, 2020 at 9:03 am

    @Princess: 
    I agree. Kentucky voters have a right to know.

  92. 92.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 22, 2020 at 9:03 am

    @Bruuuuce: Billy Crystal jokes that he could play Miracle Max now without makeup.

    Which bugs the heck out of me, as I remember Billy Crystal as the young kid on “Soap” and in his early comedy career.

    It’s like going to reunion and wondering how all your friends got old.

  93. 93.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 22, 2020 at 9:04 am

    So during Trump’s 60 Minutes interview, Kayleigh McEnany showed Stahl a huge thick book that supposedly lists everything Trump has done on health care. Stahl opened it, and all the pages are blank.

    That seems like a huge self-own to me, but I don’t speak Republican.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 9:04 am

    @Immanentize

    Or it comes up either “Ask again later” or “Do what Dad says.”

    :)

  95. 95.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @Citizen Scientist: Good on you!  Love your nym.

  96. 96.

    Jean

    October 22, 2020 at 9:05 am

    In polls from Oct 17-20, both Quinnipiac and Fox show Biden well ahead in early votes in battleground states, but Trump ahead in votes to be cast on election day. I dunno. So positive news, I guess, is winning for Trump depends on votes NOT yet cast. Those count? Texas tied. Florida within the margin of error.

  97. 97.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @narya: Didn’t wanna run between the rain drops? ? DOWNPOUR!

  98. 98.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 9:07 am

    @NotMax: Did I tell you that I have achieved a very serious life goal?  The Immp has started asking me for music suggestions. This is a Big Biden Deal!

  99. 99.

    Bruuuuce

    October 22, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I saw him on the reunion, and he doesn’t quite have the Ancient Guy thing going like Mel (long may he wave!).

    I wouldn’t wonder about my friends having aged. If they’re anything like what I see in the mirror, there’s no doubt about it.

  100. 100.

    Aleta

    October 22, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @Immanentize:

    1.  Everything is an anti-T effort.

    2.  Both sides.

    3.  Trump is protecting all Americans.

    4.  Even the scientists and generals don’t understand.

    5.  Election results are under audit.  He will release them them when Hunter releases  his deleted emails.

    6.  To prevent panic.

  101. 101.

    Baud

    October 22, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m disappointed he didn’t cut the interview short and storm off like a real leader would.

  102. 102.

    MomSense

    October 22, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: 
    Isn’t this the fifth or sixth time he has pulled that same gag? There was the table stacked with folders full of blank paper proving he divested from his companies. Then there was the tape cutting ceremony with giant piles of blank paper showing all the regulations he got rid of.

  103. 103.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @Aleta: I LOLed at number 5

    ETA. Living alone has its advantages.  Crazy random mirth behaviour goes unremarked.

  104. 104.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 9:10 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    She denies that:

    NO, the White House did not try to pass off hundreds of blank pages as its healthcare policy:

    ➡️ 512 pages
    ➡️ 13 executive orders
    ➡️ 11 pieces of healthcare legislation

    PLUS an America First Healthcare Plan from President @realDonaldTrump‼️https://t.co/OD5xm1pEKG

    — Kayleigh McEnany (@PressSec) October 22, 2020

  105. 105.

    narya

    October 22, 2020 at 9:10 am

    @mrmoshpotato: I am not completely opposed to running in the rain–it can actually be quite pleasant–but a complete downpour, with the occasional lightning, and massive puddles along the route . . . not so much. I am old and very slow. It was a good excuse to do the other workout too; I need to build an alternative to running, because I especially do not run on ice. I don’t mind cold, but ice is a strict no.

  106. 106.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 9:12 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Total self-own.

    ETA – I would feel bad for these idiots if they weren’t such destructive trash.

  107. 107.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2020 at 9:13 am

    @Immanentize

    Congrats. That must necessitate some serious cogitation on your part.

  108. 108.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 9:14 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: It’s like going to reunion and wondering how all your friends got old.

    In the mid 1960s I’d watch TV variety shows with my parents.  And they were always saying “He got so old!”  “Look how old she is!”  because the variety shows always featured entertainers from the 1930s and ’40s.  It was my first time seeing these entertainers, so it didn’t mean anything to me.

    But now I say it all the time!  And some entertainers, I don’t even recognize.  Like when I saw an elderly Orson Bean in a movie, I had no idea who it was.  Charles Grodin was another one.

  109. 109.

    Emma from FL

    October 22, 2020 at 9:15 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I wish I could be surprised by such a level of stupid arrogance. Trying to play a woman with more than 30 years of experience kicking powerful politicians in the ass with the equivalent of a preschooler’s stunt?

    Even if it weren’t true, it’s so typical of this WH that it’s instantly believable.

  110. 110.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 9:17 am

    @germy: That book was way more than 500 pages.  I’ve read Knausgaard….

  111. 111.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 9:17 am

    @germy: Let Stahl flip through that phone book on camera then, Kayleigh Frauditrashy.

  112. 112.

    artem1s

    October 22, 2020 at 9:18 am

    “Just by virtual of one single election, things don’t become perfect. But you get yourself on a pattern, on a habit, of being better represented and getting better served by your government.”

    I really hope he doesn’t disappear again after this election.  we need him out there saying this over and over again for every mid-term and state and local election all over the country. If young people want to effect real change they have to show up for every election, not just the ones where their is some messiah running and promising to fix everything with the wave of their hands.
    this is why I oppose term limits. if you have a good representative in office you should get to vote for them again, as a pattern, on a habit, to be better represented and be served by someone experienced in government service. the GOP likes term limits because its another way to suppress votes. another way to exploit cynicism and suspicion of government, of us – we the people. another way to vilify competence and glorify ignorance. everyone should get to be proud of voting for the boring, steady, non-charismatic candidate who just gets shit done. enough with mixing politics with Survivor. it’s hard enough to get competent people to run and get them into office. let’s stop shooting ourselves in the foot by accepting the TeaParty premise that you can’t trust someone who has been doing the job for the last 2 or 4 or 6 years.  that government is evil.

    he was pretty gentle with those guys at the townhall in the next video. he didn’t tell them the price of voting for legislation that they care about, that might help their communities, voting for ACA, might be losing their seat and not being to able to represent their constituents ever again. that they could end up like the Carters, the Clintons, the Obamas, etc-universally reviled by the media and everyone watching Fox News for being smart, competent, and good at governing and getting things done.

    Job one for a packed court isn’t protecting ACA or Roe or Obergfeld or even entitlements. It should be overturning Citizen’s United.

  113. 113.

    Immanentize

    October 22, 2020 at 9:19 am

    @NotMax: it took 19 years of him realizing that as I get older, I seem to learn useful things.

  114. 114.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 22, 2020 at 9:22 am

    @artem1s:

    I really hope he doesn’t disappear again after this election. 

    Happy mid-terms everyone.  Time to crush more Russthuglican Kremlin trash.  Remember these bastards tried to take away your health insurance, and they hump lizard people.

  115. 115.

    mad citizen

    October 22, 2020 at 9:26 am

    @John S.: “Voter participation is already through the roof, and likely to be the highest in more than 100 years.

    I have to believe people are not crawling through broken glass in the middle of a pandemic and driving record turnout to vote for a shitstain who barely squeaked by the first time around”

    Yup! ElectProject starting the morning showing 44 million early votes. One of the words that has been in my brain these last few months is repudiate. Thought it would have made a good sign over the shitstain’s visage.

    Or a funnier way as the orange sticker on my car says “Flush the Turd on November 3rd” (In the end I couldn’t buy anything with his visage on it, even in cartoon poo form).

  116. 116.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 22, 2020 at 9:27 am

    @Immanentize:

    You can design your own 8balls on etsy.

    First time I read this sentence I totally missed the numeral 8, and was wide-eyed with admiration for American ingenuity.

  117. 117.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 22, 2020 at 9:28 am

    @Immanentize: I’m really glad he seems to be thriving at Rice

  118. 118.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 22, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @Immanentize: It is a sweet and gratifying moment when one’s young adult children genuinely solicit their aged parent’s advice and opinions. My sons do that from time to time and it makes me very happy that they care.

  119. 119.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 22, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    So during Trump’s 60 Minutes interview, Kayleigh McEnany showed Stahl a huge thick book that supposedly lists everything Trump has done on health care. Stahl opened it, and all the pages are blank.

    No lie? That is … astonishing.

  120. 120.

    Citizen Scientist

    October 22, 2020 at 9:33 am

    @germy: Yes, and it has made me a little concerned.  I’ve told him to be careful.

  121. 121.

    raven

    October 22, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @Immanentize: Lydia is my fav!

  122. 122.

    Ksmiami

    October 22, 2020 at 10:04 am

    @Princess:  death is coming for him and I really don’t care- do you?

  123. 123.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 22, 2020 at 10:12 am

    @germy: For some reason, the one that really hit home for me was seeing a visibly elderly Elvis Costello.

  124. 124.

    WereBear

    October 22, 2020 at 10:21 am

    @Jeffro:

    Repubs will howl but they always howl, so who cares?

     
    That, above all, must sink in. We have abundant evidence that their howling is a tactic, not a good-faith effort.

  125. 125.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 10:23 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Yes, me too.   I remember when he was 22!

    I was reading about him in Crawdaddy magazine in the late 1970s.

  126. 126.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 22, 2020 at 11:01 am

    @germy:  Yeah. And Mel Brooks, who started this conversation at #77. A couple years back, I watched an episode of Seinfeld’s Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee where Seinfeld goes and hangs out with Brooks and Carl Reiner as they watch TV (how cool is that?). It wasn’t Miracle Max I was thinking of watching Brooks, it was Yoda. Or Yogurt, the Spaceballs version of Yoda.

    The other shocker is finding out how old some stars are when I look them up, after seeing them and thinking they don’t look that old (to me anyway). We’ve fallen in love with The Kominsky Method on Netflix. Michael Douglas is 76, and Alan Arkin is 86! A few years ago there was a movie with Dustin Hoffman as the director of a boys choir who is past retirement age but doesn’t want to retire. I was thinking, “he’s too young to make that plausible”. Turned out he was around 80.

  127. 127.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 22, 2020 at 11:06 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I’m talking about the domain name, like presumably proudboys.com. No, I’m not going to try going there, and I’m not going to spend any more time on this.

    GoDaddy says you can have the domain for $25K. So it does looks like somebody grabbed it. But there’s no content to speak of (I peeked in a private browser window). If the Proud Boys can scrape up $25K from their beer money they can get it back.

  128. 128.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 11:06 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: 

    The other weird thing (at least to me) is realizing how old certain entertainers would be if they were still alive.

    Like Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Lenny Bruce, etc.

  129. 129.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 22, 2020 at 11:11 am

    @germy: Did you ever look up actors in a 1930s movie on IMDB? If they were playing a 50-60ish person in the 1930s, they were born in the 19th century. Frank Morgan for instance, born 1890. That kind of blows my mind, thinking “we’re watching a person who predates radio or the telephone.”

    Sometimes I wonder if it was weird for actors like that to see and adapt to the new media, but then I think no weirder than for us pre-cell phone, pre-microwave folks to have adopted those technologies.

    Edit: LOL. I type Frank Morgan into Google to get his dates, and in the sidebar it tells me this “American character actor” wrote these books: Real Analysis, Riemannian Geometry: A Beginner’s Guide, Geometric Measure Theory: A Beginner’s Guide

    Pretty sure that’s not the same guy.

  130. 130.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 11:14 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Yes, and some of the elderly actors we’d see in the 1930s had been doing theater in the 19th century.

    Groucho Marx was born in 1890. Robert Benchley in 1889. So they didn’t really remember that century, but the oldsters of their day certainly did

    EDIT:

    And when I see TV shows from the late 1950s-early 1960s (like Perry Mason), whenever a guest star is an elderly dowager, it always turns out they were pretty young stars of the silent screen or the Broadway stage.

  131. 131.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 22, 2020 at 11:22 am

    @germy: My favorite surprise like that (slightly later era): Mae Questal, the dotty Aunt Bethany in Christmas Vacation, was the voice of Olive Oyl and Betty Boop. And played Betty Boop in some live films as well. As I recall she turned out to have had a pretty amazing voiceover career.

  132. 132.

    debbie

    October 22, 2020 at 11:25 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Yeah, I saw that. What jokers! They still can shoot their guns though.

  133. 133.

    germy

    October 22, 2020 at 11:30 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: 

    I remember when I learned that Uncle Fester from the 1960s Adams Family TV show was the kid in Chaplin’s movie “The Kid”

  134. 134.

    cain

    October 22, 2020 at 11:40 am

    @Aleta: 
    If Trump is protecting all Americans – what is this about then:

    The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs in Democratic-led cities that President Donald Trump has deemed “anarchist jurisdictions,” according to Politico https://t.co/nvQZj7tSkr— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) October 21, 2020

  135. 135.

    laura

    October 22, 2020 at 11:49 am

    @Immanentize: That Is a BFD! Don’t booger it up. ?

  136. 136.

    J R in WV

    October 22, 2020 at 1:38 pm

    @cain: 

    If Trump is protecting all Americans – what is this about then:

    The White House is considering slashing millions of dollars for coronavirus relief, HIV treatment, screenings for newborns and other programs in Democratic-led cities that President Donald Trump has deemed “anarchist jurisdictions,” according to Politico https://t.co/nvQZj7tSkr— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) October 21, 2020

    This is a repeat of the original Trumpian strategy to cope with the Novel Coronavirus plague. Which was:

    If this plague is going to kill Democrats in Blue states, we should let it run wild, with no action by the federal government to hinder the virus!

    And now here we are, the whole nation struck down by the Trump Plague.

  137. 137.

    Uncle Cosmo

    October 22, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    @Geminid: No, but you could probably make a bazillion hawking a Tragic Hate-Ball on Faux, Stinklair and the Original American Nazi Network…

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