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Open Thread: Phone Banking Heroes

by TaMara|  October 24, 202011:13 am| 115 Comments

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Who knew Mandy Patinkin and family would be the heroes we didn’t know we needed in 2020. Following him on Twitter has been a joy.

This stuff ain’t easy or the most comfortable for lots of folks. It’s not always comfortable for me. I’ve been hung up on many times, sometimes I feel awkward and ridiculous making calls, but then I help someone and I know there are thousands of others doing this work with me.

— Mandy Patinkin (@PatinkinMandy) October 24, 2020

Loved this gif

Biden Joe Biden GIF from Biden GIFs

I’m off to put together a recipe post for tonight. The duck hut has arrived and as soon as it’s warm enough I’ll attempt to put it together.  Y’all will get photos of the finished project..probably with the ducks giving it a middle claw, as they are creatures of habit and hate change. I’m sure trying to get them into it tonight will be a real treat. /s

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  1. 1.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 24, 2020 at 11:15 am

    My shift in the county and state texting operation starts at noon.

  2. 2.

    RaflW

    October 24, 2020 at 11:36 am

    Since this is an open thread, was Mother Jones’s Ben Dreyfus drinking last night, ’cause holy shit. He went off, defending the NYT and Plott.

    I think it’s okay for an editor to want to defend fellow practitioners of the craft, but the Times really, really screwed the pooch on that one. They had to issue three corrections, and it isn’t like this was the first time the ‘paper of record’ had run a piece that failed to acknowledge the Republican operative backgrounds of people selected for interviewing on a news item purporting to be about just regular voters.

    @bendreyfuss
    “But she had a fellowship at National Review!” Fuck off.

  3. 3.

    MomSense

    October 24, 2020 at 11:38 am

    Mandy made me cry.  I love how happy he felt.

  4. 4.

    eclare

    October 24, 2020 at 11:42 am

    Good luck with the hut assembly and acceptance!

  5. 5.

    oldster

    October 24, 2020 at 11:53 am

    Most of us only get one vote.

    But if you phone-bank, like Mandy, you can get a second vote. And a third, and more and more.

    Every person who would not have voted without your call. Every vote that would have been thrown out without your help.

    Those are votes that you can add to your tally, without doing anything illegal or immoral.

    It gives you a lot of power. Use it for good.

  6. 6.

    Suburban Mom

    October 24, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    I had to do an errand with my mom this morning and could only get home by slipping in between two vehicles in the local Trucks for Trump parade.  I feel so dirty now.

  7. 7.

    James E Powell

    October 24, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    @RaflW:

    This has happened before, though it’s not like it’s only the NYT. I recall some cable show interviewing “random voters” who turned out to be Republican party officials. It’s one of those things somebody – not me, obviously, I’m lazy – should have kept track of.

    It is appalling the way so many are defending Plott for what should get her removed from political stories, maybe not fired, but definitely something other than people talking about how great she is. Where is the evidence of her greatness? Reminds me of the multiple defenses of Maggie Haberman.

  8. 8.

    cain

    October 24, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    ? Phone bank heroes, with stars in their eyes ?

    It’s awesome that Mandy is jumping in and doing these things with such gusto. He and his wife have been stellar.

  9. 9.

    brantl

    October 24, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    @Suburban Mom:  It will wash off you, but not off of them.

  10. 10.

    David Evans

    October 24, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    @Suburban Mom: Think of yourself as a secret agent.

  11. 11.

    Ken

    October 24, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    @David Evans: A secret agent would have pushed the button that sprayed oil and caltrops across the road behind the car.

  12. 12.

    lamh36

    October 24, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    Permission granted to post pics…finally! Say hello to my newest niece Olivia Love T! Courtesy of my youngest sister Jess and her husband Ro???

    https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/1320037883936411648?s=21

  13. 13.

    Baud

    October 24, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    @lamh36:

    Aww. That baby is going places.

  14. 14.

    lamh36

    October 24, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    @lamh36:

    She’s our lil chunky monkey ?? this is her and my mom

    https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/1320039990240399361?s=21

  15. 15.

    RedDirtGirl

    October 24, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    First day of early voting. In my liberal Brooklyn neighborhood I have about a 2 hour wait ahead of me. I did the poll worker training, but it seems they may not need me which is a great sign!

  16. 16.

    FelonyGovt

    October 24, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    @lamh36: What a little doll! ❤️❤️❤️

  17. 17.

    Yutsano

    October 24, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    @lamh36: Quick! Someone give that baby to Unca Joe for a feeding and a snuggle! What an adorable bean!

  18. 18.

    JanieM

    October 24, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    @lamh36: The pics made me laugh out loud, she is so cute. In that first one, she looks like she has a lot to ponder, and is already getting to work on it! One of my great-nephews, in his baby pictures, always looked like he was about to try and sell you a used car.

  19. 19.

    lamh36

    October 24, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    @JanieM: I told my sister she’ll looking like “ok I’m here, now what…ya gonna entertain me or not”??

  20. 20.

    JanieM

    October 24, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    @lamh36: LOL. Nice to have something so cheerful to think about right now! Well, any time, but especially right now.

  21. 21.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 24, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    @lamh36: So cute!

  22. 22.

    Emma from FL

    October 24, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    @lamh36: ooooh. Pretty baby!

  23. 23.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 24, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    I’m having mostly optimistic days with occasional panic attacks when some thought occurs to me.

    Here’s this morning’s wake-up-in-cold-sweat thought: Why did DeJoy pull all the USPS police off the job? What do they normally guard against? What fuckery is he planning with the vote?

    Have we heard any follow up to that story?

    Optimistic me says the 20 million ballots already returned are a buffer against whatever it is. But it still nags at me that clearly DeJoy has some nationwide scheme planned and the shoe has not yet dropped.

  24. 24.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 24, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @lamh36: Squeee! Glad I popped back in and can do the embed:

    Permission granted to post pics…finally! Say hello to my newest niece Olivia Love! Courtesy of my youngest sister Jess and her husband Ro??? pic.twitter.com/nUgxaqI5hi

    — NB NOLA (@psddluva4evah) October 24, 2020

  25. 25.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 24, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    @TaMara (HFG): Baby! So sweet.

  26. 26.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 24, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    Keep a thought for Estes Park today. Snow cannot come soon enough.

    Update – #EastTroublesomeFire is now about a mile from the western edge of Estes Park. Fire chief expects some structures to be lost day. They’re calling in as many resources as are available. The snow can’t get here fast enough. pic.twitter.com/egoylfRSa1

    — Matt Mauro (@mattmauronews) October 24, 2020

  27. 27.

    lamh36

    October 24, 2020 at 12:55 pm

    @TaMara (HFG): Thx.  I won’t be able to see her til about 2 weeks but I can’t wait!

  28. 28.

    laura

    October 24, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    @lamh36: oh what wouldn’t I give to smell behind that tiny perfect ear. Keep On Aunting lamh36 – and thank you for sharing!

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 24, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Plott used to write for the National Review. She is a self-described “Ann Coulter fangirl.” I can’t imagine how any editor thinks she can be fair and objective as a political reporter. Put her on another beat where her political views are irrelevant and won’t compromise the story.

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 24, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    @lamh36:

    Awww. What an adorable baby! Congratulations to the whole family!

  31. 31.

    Suburban Mom

    October 24, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    @Ken:  A flamethrower would have been handy.

  32. 32.

    evodevo

    October 24, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: The Postal Inspectors just investigate mail-related fraud, like employee embezzlement, mail theft, Nigerian scams, employee disability fraud, direct threats to employees and the like…I doubt if pulling them off would really do much to the election…I was a carrier for 23 years and never saw/met one…

  33. 33.

    Kathleen

    October 24, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    @lamh36: Too precious for words. Every baby Girl pic you’ve posted shows bright purposeful intense sprites. I can see them all competing in the same Presidential primary in 40 years. Be prepared.

  34. 34.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 24, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    @evodevo: So are there any theories why he would stand them down? Is he launching his own Nigerian scam?

  35. 35.

    WereBear

    October 24, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    @lamh36: Love those pics. So little… and yet, so wise :)

  36. 36.

    Kathleen

    October 24, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: NYT pulled this stunt in 2016 IIRC. I wonder if she was the offender in those stories as well. Thx for the context.

  37. 37.

    frosty

    October 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: @evodevo: Mail theft.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    October 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Maybe preparing for Trump’s post-presidency business.

  39. 39.

    evodevo

    October 24, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: He doesn’t need a reason other than to cripple the PO…but in our rural county, you call the local sheriff to report damaged mailboxes or mail theft…we see postal inspectors only when a customer has threatened an employee or vice versa, or the post office is broken into…and that hasn’t happened in years…Now…theft in a mail sorting facility…THAT might be a problem, but the supervisor is supposed to report on that…

  40. 40.

    hells littlest angel

    October 24, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    I can’t help imagining Mandy Patinkin phone-banking sounding like this:

    “You’re voting for Trump? What the hell is wrong with you? Are you fucking stupid? You ignorant fucking asshole!” [Slams down phone]

     

    ETA: He is renowned for being an arrogant, tantrum-throwing diva,

  41. 41.

    scav

    October 24, 2020 at 1:11 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: How else is der Trumsterfeuer going to raise the 419 bazillion campaign dollas he needs?

  42. 42.

    Barbara

    October 24, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    @lamh36: Gorgeous baby!  So nice to have more recipients for your auntie love.

  43. 43.

    David Evans

    October 24, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @Ken: Thereby ceasing to be secret.

  44. 44.

    Emerald

    October 24, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    Ya missed this one from Mandy that he posted yesterday. Trust me: it’s worth it to endure a few seconds of tRump to get to Mandy’s punchline:

    https://twitter.com/PatinkinMandy/status/1319474243604656129?s=20

  45. 45.

    eclare

    October 24, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    @lamh36:  Adorbs!

  46. 46.

    Barbara

    October 24, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Or, you know, put her through the paces with rigorous editing.  Seriously, it’s not just NYT that has this problem, but this was jaw dropping incompetence on someone’s part.

    I no longer read “man in the street” articles like this one.  Even when they are not infected with such obvious and extreme bias, they all pretty clearly begin with a desired narrative line that goes in search of a few quotes to bolster that narrative.

    They are comparable to “pasta night” at your local restaurant — something cheap and filling to hide the fact that you don’t have enough real cooks to keep the kitchen going at full tilt every night of the week.  They don’t add anything to anyone’s understanding of real events.

    I feel a bit guilty this year for not doing more.  I have donated a ton, but I am just feeling exhausted.  I was solicited to do some texting, which I think I will end up doing.  I voted a month ago!

  47. 47.

    randy khan

    October 24, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    I’m seeing that Trump people are arguing that Trump won the debate because Biden said that we’d be transitioning from oil in the future.  The evil Miller in the campaign (as opposed to the evil Miller on the White House staff) said Biden had lost Pennsylvania and another state (I forget which one and am not going to look for it because it’s silly) with that statement.  No word from them on how Trump’s incoherence on COVID-19 might affect that thinking.

  48. 48.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 24, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    If what you need in your week is a cockatoo introducing himself to some 19 day old kittens, I have that for you.

  49. 49.

    J R in WV

    October 24, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    @lamh36:

    Congrats, Lamh, she’s beautiful~!

  50. 50.

    Barbara

    October 24, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    @randy khan: It probably was an unforced error on Biden’s part, but transitioning to clean energy sounds an awful lot like not stopping the use of fossil fuels in the near term.

  51. 51.

    Uncle Cosmo

    October 24, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    @Emerald: My name is Mandy Patinkin. You tried to kill my democracy. Prepare to be thrown out of office in disgrace.

  52. 52.

    RedDirtGirl

    October 24, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    @lamh36: Gorgeous!

  53. 53.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 24, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    @randy khan: Fracking is a big and controversial topic in PA. It was addressed directly in the “debate” and Biden made the statement that “no, I’m not going to end fracking” but that hasn’t stopped the Trump people from running ads with “fracking creates lots of jobs and Biden is going to kill it.”

    That’s as far as I know the main connection to the oil industry in PA. And a lot of PA residents do actually hate fracking and its environment effects and want it to go away.

    So even if there was widespread belief that Joe’s jackbooted thugs are coming for your fracking, I don’t think that’s a killer in PA.

  54. 54.

    TomatoQueen

    October 24, 2020 at 1:28 pm

    Done, done, and done in VA 8. Mr Beyer, Mr Warner,  Unca Joe and Auntie K. As for the amendments, no and no, both are badly written pls try again. Absentee ballot to be mailed in, I have a pic of the envelope, postage paid (.50, not .55) by the gov’t.  The privacy envelope, or envelope B as it is called, used to be printed in a larger font, landscape. Now it is printed portrait, tiny tiny tiny font and I will be you anything you like that this nefariousness against the elderly and visually impaired is intentional. But I was most cautious and careful to complete all parts, my witness completed his part, and now democracy’s most precious gift to the future is on its way. We shall see whether it is counted.

  55. 55.

    Uncle Cosmo

    October 24, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    @randy khan: Evil WH staff Miller is competent at the ratfuckery he perpetrates. Evil campaign Miller can’t find his arse with both hands because he keeps mistaking his face for it. Fuckem both.

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    October 24, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    @lamh36: What a doll!  Congratulations.

  57. 57.

    J R in WV

    October 24, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    @evodevo:

    The Postal Inspectors just investigate mail-related fraud

    Many years ago (like 30+?) someone (Mona) stole a new box of checks from our rural mailbox. Then she got a phoney driver’s license with her picture and wife’s identification, and kited checks all over the valley.

    We were in bed early on Sunday evening reading, when we got a phone call from a distressed young clerk at a convenience mart, whose first words were “So I bet you guys didn’t just cash a check in St Albans, did you?” She was upset because Mona and her boyfriend almost ran her down making their getaway.

    Cops told wife “But how much did that box of checks cost you? You aren’t going to pay those bad checks are you?” Did not want to take a report, fill out paperwork. Sure didn’t care about Mona passing bad paper.

    But the Postal Inspector cared, had busted Mona once already, she was on probation when she stole our checks, went inside the jail finally…

  58. 58.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 24, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    Any lovers of the Strand bookstore in NYC? It’s my favorite bookstore in all the world and I just found out that they, like so many retail businesses, are in extreme danger of closing their doors.

    Edit: Still trying to find information on how to actually help them out, but here’s an upcoming event with Neil Gaiman that jackals might be interested in.

  59. 59.

    Emma from FL

    October 24, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    @randy khan: Probably Texas? The problem with that claims is that even Texas is turning to alternative energy sources. So are some of the plains states. Some people in an earlier thread were taking about it.

  60. 60.

    James E Powell

    October 24, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    @Barbara:

    they all pretty clearly begin with a desired narrative line that goes in search of a few quotes to bolster that narrative.

    And that right there is the inconvenient truth that none of the defenders of bad journalism/propaganda will ever admit. There are no random people stories.

    Right now there is an MSNBC story circulating with three young African American women talking about how they are not sold on Joe Biden. That story exists because someone at a meeting said, let’s do a story on young African American women who are not sold on Joe Biden.

  61. 61.

    Ripley

    October 24, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    I’ll be the grain of sand, I guess. I hate phone calls and texts from political campaigns. I mean that I fucking HATE them. I hate that people use my phone number as a thing in their toolbox to “do something”, no matter how important this election is or any election has been.

    I received a 7 part text yesterday from ‘James Carville’. 7 freaking pieces of a text, that show up out of order. I can’t vote in Louisiana, ‘James’. Leave me alone. That’s just one of probably 200+ texts I’ve received in the last two months.

    I’m a registered Democrat, not an Independent or No Party or anything that might make you wonder – I’m a Democrat. I’ve voted in every election, in this district, since 2006. You don’t need to send me GOTV texts or call me. And, pre-COVID, you didn’t need to stop by to knock on my door and ask for my support or encourage me to vote. Do your damned research and you’ll realize I’m a solid Democrat and a solid voter.

    Sorry – I know this is probably an unpopular attitude here, but it’s probably not an uncommon attitude. Some of us don’t appreciate the carpet bombing tactics from every damned campaign and organization out there. Just because you somehow picked up my contact info, and it’s super easy to send texts and make phone calls, doesn’t mean I need or want to have a conversation with you or hear from you.

    PS – I am not a crank. I am a yellow dog Democrat, though.

  62. 62.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 24, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    @Ripley: I’m sorry. Our operation takes you off our lists if you text back that you don’t want to hear from us. And all of them should take you off their lists once you’ve voted.

    I’ve been blocking a lot of numbers, too, although it’s gotten better since I’ve voted.

  63. 63.

    Kent

    October 24, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    @Barbara: It wasn’t incompetence on the part of the NYT.  It was deliberate partisan fuckery on the part of the reporter who needs to be fired for fabricating a story.

    You can’t expect editors to triple-verify every single source that a reporter uses.  They are paid generous salaries because they are supposed to be professional reporters.

    This was a fabricated story in which the reporter manufactured a deliberate lie by concealing the identities of her “sources”  She knew EXACTLY what she was doing.  It wasn’t a “mistake”.

    She needs to be fired.  I’m sure the National Review will be happy to have her back.

  64. 64.

    JMG

    October 24, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    @James E Powell: This is exactly correct. In a nation of 330 million people you can find three or four individuals willing to say on the record the moon is made of green cheese if you look hard enough. And Plott couldn’t even do that! She astroturfed her story because she’s lazy as well as deceitful. Let’s not kid ourselves her status at the Times won’t go UP because of this story.

  65. 65.

    Baud

    October 24, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Exactly. If Biden were up in the polls 80-15, the media could run the exact same stories with 5% remainder who were undecided.

    And I’m still waiting on stories about working class white guys who are unsold on Trump.

  66. 66.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 24, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    @Ripley: I tend to agree with you.  I find it annoying,  I am going to vote anyway and I am going to vote for the Democrats.  That being said, we are outliers and I support doing what needs to be done.

    FWIW I also hate Christmas music before Thanksgiving and I like traditional carols.  So there.

  67. 67.

    germy

    October 24, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    @JMG:  she’s lazy as well as deceitful.

    Her phone contact list is full of republican operatives.

  68. 68.

    Kent

    October 24, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Any lovers of the Strand bookstore in NYC? It’s my favorite bookstore in all the world and I just found out that they, like so many retail businesses, are in extreme danger of closing their doors.

    Edit: Still trying to find information on how to actually help them out, but here’s an upcoming event with Neil Gaiman that jackals might be interested in.

    Some trivia.  The owner of the Strand is Nancy Wyden (Bass) who is the wife of Oregon Senator Ron Wyden.  The recent hits on Wyden is that he spends too much time in DC and NY and never comes back to OR anymore (I worked on Wyden’s first campaign for the House back in the early 80s when I was in college).

  69. 69.

    No One of Consequence

    October 24, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    Early In-Person Absentee Voting today in Urbandale, Iowa. Particular location was open yesterday and today. I scoped it last night in a drive-by, there was a line at about 5pm roughly 30 people. Was no line outside today, so me and the missus got our vote on.

    Two solid D votes in the bank for Joe and the Dems, can’t be shennanigan’d, and will be in place when the tallies start going and being broadcast when the polls close here in Iowa, on Election Night. I voted in-person for this very purpose, and to avoid any mail service fuckery (which I do not hold them responsible for).

    Feels damn good, and one less thing I have to worry about. Fuck these monsters. They do not speak for us.

    Crush enemies, see them driven before you, and here the lamentation of the Lindseys…

    Peace, fo’real,

    NOoC

    p.s. VOTE DAMNIT!

  70. 70.

    Kent

    October 24, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    @Ripley: I’m getting about 100 political emails a day now.  A lot of them are starting to look like fraudulent blue fundraising campaigns that are more like phishing.  It is out of control.

    We have donated several times to Biden and before that to Warren and Klobuchar (my wife).   That is really our only engagement and it has all multiplied malignantly from that.  I won’t be doing political engagement from my own email address ever again.

  71. 71.

    Sloane Ranger

    October 24, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    @lamh36: Not normally a fan of baby pics but she’s a beauty. Awwww.

  72. 72.

    germy

    October 24, 2020 at 1:59 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/

  73. 73.

    Ripley

    October 24, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I’m not pointing fingers at anyone here. I apologize for making my rant seem like it was directed at the BJ community; this is a place filled with good people. (Except Baud – for President?? Not bloody likely.)

    I hate Election season and campaign ads. I hate Xmas season and the Xmas ads. And every two years, we get months of both.

    I’m coming off a mild case of COVID, and definitely have brain fog. But I’m a broken glass voter and I plan to vote Biden/Harris early next week.

    I don’t begrudge anyone putting in the effort to GOTV or support their/our candidates. I wish there were a more subtle method to do it, I guess.

  74. 74.

    Nicole

    October 24, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    @lamh36: She’s so beautiful!  So happy for your whole family.

  75. 75.

    frosty

    October 24, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: My favorite too, although it must be 20 years since I’ve been there (!). Just ordered 5 books from them. Maybe it will help.

  76. 76.

    Baud

    October 24, 2020 at 2:04 pm

    @Kent:

    Dude, why didn’t you tell us you were married to Amy Klobuchar?

  77. 77.

    Baud

    October 24, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    @Ripley:

    . (Except Baud – for President?? Not bloody likely.)

    I’m putting you on the Baud! 2036! spam list.

    I hope your phone has a lot of storage.

  78. 78.

    frosty

    October 24, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    @Ripley: I’m with you on all of that. As a door-knocker, it seems like they send us out to infrequent voters, not the solid ones.

    I’m sick of texts and emails both asking me to confirm I’ll show up to canvass. Just send me one dammit!! Not 2 or 3 a day. Also, too, fix your database and get my name right! I’ve been trying to do that for at least two elections. Somehow the person who says it’s fixed isn’t working in the right database.

    / OK, rant over now. I seem to have gone off topic LOL

  79. 79.

    J R in WV

    October 24, 2020 at 2:09 pm

    I was in chorus in HS, because that’s where a number of cute fun girls were. So we sang Xmas songs for MONTHS… was horrible after the second year…!!

    Now, if I go shopping, anywhere, I’m forced to endure the same terrible kitchey songs. Arrgh!

  80. 80.

    Ripley

    October 24, 2020 at 2:11 pm

    @Baud: WTH? I thought you took weekends off!

  81. 81.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 24, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon is married to the owner.

  82. 82.

    Barbara

    October 24, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    @Kent: I would definitely be fired from my job if I did something comparable, that’s for sure, and it wouldn’t matter why I did it.  Malfeasance, incompetence, laziness, whatever, without the quotes from her random average people there was, literally, no story at all.

  83. 83.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 24, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    Biden makes another friend.

    Rick — thank you for sharing your talent with me. I was so blown away by your art that I asked my team to add it to our online store:

  84. 84.

    randy khan

    October 24, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I agree – it matters to some people, but at worst it cuts both ways.  And a lot of people really hate it.

  85. 85.

    randy khan

    October 24, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    @TomatoQueen:

    First, nice to see another V-8 voter.

    I voted no on 1, too, as it gives each party a veto, which is a recipe for incumbent protection at best and an invitation to disaster at worst ( as you go to the Virginia Supreme Court – currently Republican-controlled – if the politicians can’t agree).  And since Ken Cuccinelli had a hand in it, well, need I say more?

    In other years I’d agree that there was potential nefariousness in the envelope design, but with Ds in control in Richmond and in nearly all of our part of the state, it seems unlikely this year.

  86. 86.

    randy khan

    October 24, 2020 at 2:23 pm

    @Emma from FL:

    I feel like it wasn’t Texas, because I feel like I would have remembered it in light of that being an acknowledgment that they’re in trouble there, but I really don’t know.

  87. 87.

    raven

    October 24, 2020 at 2:23 pm

    I don’t really care what some people think about the Lincoln Project, they fucking rock!

     

    It quickly slammed back with a statement that the “level of indignant outrage Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have shown towards The Lincoln Project for exposing their indifference for the more than 223,000 people who have lost their lives … is comical.”

    It added that “their empty threats will not be taken any more seriously than we take Ivanka and Jared. It is unsurprising that an administration that has never had any regard or understanding of our Constitution would try to trample on our First Amendment rights, but we fully intend on making this civics lesson as painful as possible.”

    The billboards “will stay up,” the statement declared. “We consider it important that in Times Square, the crossroads of the world, people are continuously reminded of the cruelty, audacity and staggering lack of empathy the Trumps and Kushners have displayed toward the American people.”

  88. 88.

    JanieM

    October 24, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    @Ripley:

    @Ripley:

    Thanks for ranting my rants for me. ;-)

    I’ve also been getting two or three partially filled in absentee ballot applications a week for many weeks now. They’re made to look official, but they aren’t. I voted three weeks ago and my ballot was marked accepted online the next day, just stop already. I think the mailings, as official as they’re made to look, are at the point of causing more confusion than they alleviate.

  89. 89.

    Emma from FL

    October 24, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: God, this man is a mensch.

  90. 90.

    Capri

    October 24, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    @frosty:  @Ripley:

    Move to Indiana, where nobody cares at all about whether you vote and you’ll barely know that there’s a national election going on.  Guess we’re so safely red that neither campaign is spending a dime here. Haven’t gotten a single call or text

  91. 91.

    Kent

    October 24, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    @Baud: Hah!  back in February my wife decided to balance out my Warren contribution by giving to Klobuchar.  Just to spite me I think.  Amy was her girl until the voting started and then she came round to Biden.

  92. 92.

    mali muso

    October 24, 2020 at 2:35 pm

    Yay, whatever was borking the site for my iPhone earlier seems to have been fixed!

    Count me in as another Virginia voter who voted NO on 1.

  93. 93.

    SFBayAreaGal

    October 24, 2020 at 2:36 pm

     

    @lamh36: She is beautiful

  94. 94.

    Mary G

    October 24, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    @lamh36: @lamh36: So freaking adorable; she does look like a little wise woman, and Olivia Love is a great name.

    How’s the new job going?

  95. 95.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    October 24, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    @lamh36: What a cutie! Congratulations on the newest family member.

  96. 96.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 24, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    @Emma from FL: 

    Yeah he is.

  97. 97.

    Nora

    October 24, 2020 at 2:43 pm

    First day of early voting in New York and my husband and I went to our local polling place.  The place opened for voting at noon, and there were people waiting there at 10 a.m. already.  When we got there at 1:30, the line already stretched down the plaza and along three blocks.

    We were smart and brought our filled-out absentee ballots, just in case.  A young woman with a clipboard was standing in the plaza and I asked her whether we could skip the line if we were just dropping off absentee ballots and she said yes.  She said to hold the ballots up in plain sight so the people in line could see we weren’t just trying to cut in front, which we did.

    Took us five minutes to drop off our ballots, and we high-fived each other on the way out.

    I’ve never seen crowds like this before.  We’ve lived here more than 30 years, and this is something else.  I think we’re going to make history — in a good way — this election season.

  98. 98.

    zhena gogolia

    October 24, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    @raven:

    I agree.

    What matters is what you’re doing right now. They’re doing the right thing.

  99. 99.

    Yutsano

    October 24, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    Let’s talk Texas. This could mean anything, but higher turnout is always a positive sign.

    The unusually large voter turnout in Texas has persisted through the first 10 days of the early voting period, leading experts to predict that the state could reach overall turnout levels unseen so far this century.#tx2020 https://t.co/utcEqhjvce— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) October 23, 2020

  100. 100.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    October 24, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    @Ripley: What you said!  I always vote Democratic, I donate $, and I don’t need to hear from the campaigns.  I have basically stopped answering my phone for the duration because of all the auto-dialed calls (sigh). My email and text messages soliciting for $ on my cell phone have blown up and I can’t wait for the election to be over. At least I can ignore the messages because with DougJ’s help, I’ve been giving to lots of Dems via ActBlue

    ETA: I think I’ve missed one election since 1972.  I think I’m a Yellow Dog Democrat also :-)

  101. 101.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 24, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:  Yay you! Thank you so much for doing this.

  102. 102.

    evodevo

    October 24, 2020 at 3:09 pm

    @J R in WV:  Yep…they have that hang on like a pitbull reputation lol – NO postal employee wants to fuck with them…only the stoopid/desperate ones hide undelivered mail in their barn (like one at another rural PO near here did lol) or try to cook the books and embezzle a little cash while clerking – but this close to the election it’s gonna be hard to screw with the vote using them…at our tiny PO we are busting butt to get all this mail out every day, so I can only address that, but this is Ky and we have a Dem gov, so I don’t worry too much.

  103. 103.

    Badgetoon

    October 24, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    For all the anti-phonebankers ranting away. Those people making the calls do a three percent shift in votes 3% gets a President Hillary not the crap we have now. I’m spending the next week making phone calls cause I need health insurance and I want to live in a sane world. I have more fun stuff to do then sit on the damn phone all day. When I hear people like you bitching honestly I file it with Wilmer fanboys and Trumpers screaming at me, in the brain dead circular file.

    Do you people ever think about all the people doing the work with the damn insults you’re spewing out and how it effects the people you’re attacking and how it helps win this election? Or would you rather just lose?

  104. 104.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 24, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    @lamh36: What a sweet baby!

  105. 105.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 24, 2020 at 3:41 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: In many states, the mail ballots requested and not yet returned lean 50-50 or majority Republican, whereas the ones already returned are enormously Democratic. Of course, many of those Republicans might just decide to vote another way, and some of them might not vote regardless. But… if DeJoy pulls something really late with the USPS, he might be mostly screwing with Republican votes.

  106. 106.

    Uncle Cosmo

    October 24, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    @Kent: A lot of them are starting to look like fraudulent blue fundraising campaigns that are more like phishing.

    Whatever fraud there might be can easily be avoided by donating via ActBlue or the campaign itself.

    Personally, I doubt there’s much, for that very reason. The sad fact is, it’s been repeatedly demonstrated that the most likely predictor of whether a person will donate to a campaign is – whether s/he has already donated to it.** Literally, campaigns get more buck$ for the bang by hitting up their donor lest again & again & again & again… About all you can do is keep unsubscribing till they get the hint.

    ** Analogous in some ways to the Turkish carpet seller effect: Once they get you to increase your offer by even a dollar, they keep yanking on you to go higher. (Which is why you offer what you’re willing to pay for the shmatte and never budge a cent no matter how loudly they protest “it’s less than I paid for it” – you’ll almost always get it for that price & they’ll still be making money.)

    It is out of control.

    I’ll give you that – see above.

  107. 107.

    eddie blake

    October 24, 2020 at 3:53 pm

    @RedDirtGirl:

    goin tomorrow in the AM.

  108. 108.

    Jinchi

    October 24, 2020 at 3:54 pm

    @Yutsano: This could mean anything, but higher turnout is always a positive sign.

    Higher turnout in Texas is a great sign for Democrats. We usually consider Texas a hard red state, but the reality is that turnout in Texas is often abysmal and it’s clearly by design. Republicans don’t want the wrong people to vote, because they’re worried they’ll lose.

    But that gives a huge opportunity. Convince enough disenfranchised Texans that it’s worth the effort and you could see a blue tsunami that puts the rest of the nation to shame.

    Biden and the Democrats polling within a few points of striking distance is worth the effort even if the odds are still in Republicans favor.

  109. 109.

    Uncle Cosmo

    October 24, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: @Kent: @frosty:

    Umm… have you seen the news stories that the Strand owner took the “stimulus” money, used it to buy >$100K of Amazon stock, then laid off all her unionized employees & closed the shop? Here’s a source. Then hired a few of them back to help prep for opening another location, & then let them go too? Here’s another source.

    I have some fond memories of the Strand from my summer at Columbia 50 years ago (!), but after reading this, I’d be more tempted to boycott them in support of the employees than wring my hands over their fate.

    @HumboldtBlue:  Just seems to go to show that there are robber baron types on our side of the aisle too. Screw her.

  110. 110.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 24, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    Phone banking increases the likelihood of a person voting by 7%. I don’t love getting those calls either, but they can affect the outcome of an election. The Democratic Parties (state and local) use voting records for their calls. The database gets updated daily, after the county clerks upload their data. So anyone who has voted will be taken off the call list by the next day. I often tell folks that the best way to ensure they don’t get any more calls this election is to vote. Campaign calls might operate differently, but that’s how calls from the party work.

  111. 111.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 24, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: Nice to see you here in what is probably the only free three minutes you have today.

    Things are a little slow on the texting front – people have moved over to phones. But we’re working through the texts.

  112. 112.

    Yutsano

    October 24, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    44 is speaking in Florida right now!

    EDIT: caught the very tail end. But he is all in!

  113. 113.

    Geeno

    October 24, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    @Suburban Mom: Dirty Girl

  114. 114.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 24, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Great to “see” you too! I’m putting in crazy hours these days. Can’t wait for the election to be done, for sooo many reasons. ☺

  115. 115.

    WaterGirl

    October 24, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    @Ripley: just text:  STOP to each group that texts you.

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