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Site Update: Election Night & More

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There have been two, or possibly three, things going on lately with the Balloon Juice site.

If you don’t care about the details, know that I am working with the developers to resolve the issues. You can jump to the bottom and watch the Bob Bauer video.  Bob Bauer heads Biden’s vote protection effort.  After that you can click the link to listen to Letitia James (the New York AG) message to voters. You won’t regret it.

Open thread.

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Details about the site for anyone who is interested:

The custom twitter feed plugin that automatically posts new threads in John’s twitter feed lost its mind – on or about the night of the last debate.  We turned off that plugin, and the site was back to normal.  We left it turned off for a few days, then turned it on again at some point that weekend.  It misbehaved some more, so we turned it off again.

That’s why you don’t see John’s twitter feed in the sidebar.

I opened a ticket with the plugin developer.  We will need to turn the plugin back on so they can (hopefully) catch it in the act so they can see what’s gong on.  I’ll let you know when that happens so you won’t have to wonder what’s going on. I worked with them on another issue with the twitter feed plugin last December, and they were helpful then, so I have high hopes.

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The WordPress search plugin is also acting out.  I worked with our site developer on Thursday, and with their monitoring software, he was able to figure out the query in the search plugin that is causing the problem.  While we were on the phone, he contacted the developer for that plugin (nice that our site developer knows him personally).  The second thing the plugin developer said was “that’s a lot of comments!”  I laughed.  (We are at 5.9 million comments on BJ.)

The good news on that front is that developer has already looked at the problem and written some new code to fix it.

Our site developer has the new code and will be installing it and rebuilding the site index so we can see if the problem has been resolved.  That should happen this weekend, or possibly on Monday.

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Election Night

Election Night on Balloon Juice is gonna give the site a workout, so I want to share the plan for that night.

Plan A:  The custom twitter feed developers fix the bug in the twitter feed plugin and the WordPress search plugin people fix their respective bugs before Tuesday, and the site stops having the slowdown issue..

Plan B: If both bugs are not fixed by Tuesday, then the offending plugin(s) will be turned off for Nov 3 and as long as the election craziness lasts.  Or until the bug is fixed.

I also plan to ask our site developer to keep a special eye on the site on Tuesday night, though we obviously can’t expect him to be up all night.

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The third thing that’s going on with the site appears to primarily affect iPads.  Other tablets are possibly affected as well, but the only devices I am aware of so far are iPads.  The problem with impossibly slow loading of the front page appears to be related to twitter, but we don’t know if that’s the cause or a symptom.  My strong suspicion is that the WordPress search plugin issue is affecting iPads, particularly older iPads, more than other devices.

My plan is to give the Search plugin people a chance to fix their bug and then see if the iPad issue is also resolved.  If the iPad issue remains after that, then I’d like to work with a few iPad peeps to do some testing to see if we can narrow down the issue.  So if you’re an iPad person and you’re willing to be part of that testing, please let me know in the comments.

Volunteers: mali muso, GeriUpNorth, Intensive Porpoises, way2blue, dmsilev, Cam-WA, dm, Erin in Flagstaff, Feathers, Madeleine

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Questions?  Ask away.

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Bonus!

Bob Bauer heads Biden’s vote protection effort. Watch his video.  I promise you’ll feel better.

Open thread.

Click this link to listen to Leticia James (the New York AG) message to all voters.
You won’t regret it.

Reader Interactions

155Comments

  1. 1.

    germy

    Thanks for all the work you’re putting into this. It’s definitely appreciated here in the Germy household.

  2. 2.

    debbie

    I got a new iPad mini a month or so ago and was shocked at how quickly everything, including tweets, loads. Doubt that’s of much help, but there it is.

  5. 5.

    patrick II

    A Headline over at Raw Story just now:

    Trump moves election night ‘party’ to White House so he can invite 400 guests despite COVID rules: report

    The real purpose (he would have had it there covid rules or no) is to declare victory for president while actually being president in the White House with hundreds of official looking people in attendance. Step one to overturn the election. I hope Joe wins by a huge amount.

  8. 8.

    artem1soo

    the Bauer interview was taped ten+ days ago.  I wonder what he has to say about what happened yesterday in TX?  I am seeing a couple of reports that the FBI is looking into it.  But that truck parade has been harassing people in that area for awhile now and the local PD and mayor aren’t either on their side or too afraid to confront them. The truck parade boasts they are ‘protected’ by local militia.  Media of course are playing ‘what about antifa’ games with their coverage?

  9. 9.

    Fair Economist

    Obviously you can’t fix it with all this going on but I would really like to see the ability to quotepost comments to Twitter. Every way I’ve tried only displays a header for the post.

  10. 10.

    RaflW

    @patrick II: Alternatively, he knows that a national 10 point lead by Biden means that the popular vote will be embarrassingly lopsided, and that even as he will no doubt challenge PA and a couple other states, he does not want to be attempting a big ass party at his D.C. hotel, only to have maybe 200 paid staffers as the only ‘guests’, looking very glum and dejected, while a DJ spins YMCA endlessly.

  11. 11.

    Yutsano

    @patrick II:

    Step one to overturn the election.

    Okay stop that. He can’t overturn the election vy starting with a declaration. And let’s say there’s enough machinations to overturn, say, Pennsylvania. Biden has many more paths to victory. And his operation isn’t smart or well funded enough to overturn every electoral vote everywhere he would need to. He’s going to lose, and it’s not going to be close. Look at the number of new voters coming in. I watched an interview with Ben Wikler, and he said the huge number of new voters are skewing younger and not white. We might need a bigger word than tsunami, because we might not be ready for what’s about to happen/

  12. 12.

    Calouste

    The Republicans attempt to suppress  100,000+ drive-in votes in Houston has been thrown out by the Texas Supreme Court without comment. Of course there is still a case in a federal court, but it’s a start. I get the impression that there are still some Republicans in Texas that want a functioning state. There was also a GOP state Rep that thought this was ridiculous.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    he was able to figure out the query in the search plugin that is causing the problem.

    Baud!? 2036!?

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    @Fair Economist:

    I would really like to see the ability to quotepost comments to Twitter.

    I don’t understand what you mean by that.  Are you saying you would like to be able to take, let’s say Kay’s comment at #10 and post that on twitter?

  16. 16.

    JanieM

    Two things:

    — 5.9 million comments just made me laugh. That’s amazing, although not surprising when I think about how prolific the place is. Do any of you really keep up with every thread? I mean comments and front-pagers, either one.

    — Thanks to WaterGirl for dealing with all the technical stuff. I mean, thanks to all the people who keep the place going, but the technical side is surely endless, and often a headache. Hopefully it’s fun sometimes too. (Also thanks to WaterGirl for the respite threads lately…the photo threads in particular are saving my sanity.)

  17. 17.

    Calouste

    @RaflW: It would also be embarrassing that when a coked up Don Jr starts a fight with whoever the heck the current campaign manager is after he accused him of losing the election, for that to happen in a public venue in front of the TV cameras.

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Calouste:

    t would also be embarrassing that when a coked up Don Jr starts a fight with whoever the heck the current campaign manager is after he accused him of losing the election, for that to happen in a public venue in front of the TV cameras.

    oh man, if Donnie finally loses it and squares off with Jared… “YOU STOLE MY DADDY!”…. I may never be able to stop hitting replay on the youtube

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    Fixing the site’s line spacing display discrepancies when viewing with Firefox would be nice.

  21. 21.

    Yutsano

    @Calouste:  It’s going to a Dolt45 judge then to the 5th Circuit. The decision might not make to the Supreme Court since they’ll just say this was already decided, lower court ruling stand, blah blah blah. So the Fifth might be the killing blow, especially if that decision comes after the election and those voters have no remedy at that time. Which is what the Republicans are hoping for here.

  24. 24.

    KenK

    Thanks for update and for links. I’ve inherited an older iPad and it is definitely slow loading/scrolling.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    @Yutsano:

    Possibly.  Although if we have a big night, the courts might think twice about throwing out 100,000 votes with talk of court expansion in be air.

  28. 28.

    NotMax

    Refrained from doing this in the morning garden thread as it is inappropriate to plop politics in there.

    ✌ V minus 2 ✌

    All systems still go!

  29. 29.

    mali muso

    Thanks for all the work you do to keep this place running!

    can confirm that it loads wonky on my old iPad. I’d be happy to participate in any future user testing if needed.

    Back to my meditative bread baking and snuggles with the kiddo.

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    @patrick II:

    I would guess a big reason for moving the party to the White House is that the campaign doesn’t have enough money to pay for the party they had planned.  This is one more attempt to make the US government pay for a campaign event because the campaign can’t.

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    @WaterGirl

    All else I’ll say is that I go to hundreds of other sites and have yet to encounter the same display oddity at any of them. Only here.

  35. 35.

    Sloane Ranger

    WaterGirl, I didn’t understand half of your post but I do know that, whatever its about, you are working really hard to keep the hamsters fed and the string and bailing wire in good condition.

    I just wanted to thank you for keeping the site up and running. I really appreciate it.

  36. 36.

    Yutsano

    Oh and Bloomberg News can just spack the fuck off here.

    You’ve heard the scenarios:Trump loses but refuses to leave.Biden loses but refuses to concede.Absentee ballots aren’t counted.The angry left takes to the streets.The angry right takes to the streets.Lawyers take to the courts.https://t.co/NlL9f08fgh— Bloomberg Opinion (@bopinion) October 31, 2020

  37. 37.

    J R in WV

    Watergirl say:

    I also plan to ask our site developer to keep a special eye on the site on Tuesday night, though we obviously can’t expect him to be up all night.

    What kind of site developer is this, who expects to go to bed on ELECTION night when he is supporting a POLITICAL Site???

    I mean, Really?!?!?!

    The vote counting can’t stop at bedtime, Charlie~!!~

    . . .          ;~)

  42. 42.

    GeriUpNorth

    I use an older iPad and definitely have the slow page loading problem, so I’ll be happy to help with testing. I expect to be spending a lot of time here over the next few days even if I mostly lurk, and the iPad is much more comfortable to use than my laptop when I’m in the recliner with a cat on my lap!

  43. 43.

    MattF

    @Yutsano: The thing I’ve heard is that Trump will claim that all the states must have all votes counted by the end of Election Day, and will claim victory if he’s ahead at that point. The claim is simply and flatly false, but that won’t stop him.

    ETA: FWIW,  my relatively new iPad works just fine on the site. I do use an ad blocker (Magic Lasso) that works with Safari.

  44. 44.

    Intensive Porpoises

    I know I’m new to commenting here, but I’d be willing to be one of the iPad people if needed.

  47. 47.

    way2blue

    WaterGirl.  I have an older iPad, model A1474 (released late 2013 to early 2014; 16 GB, Wi-Fi only), and can help troubleshoot if/when needed.

  48. 48.

    JaneE

    I worked in IT too long to complain about much of anything, unless it is really creating problems for me.  My ISP has so many problems I would hesitate to say any slowing is the fault of the site anyway.

    Just a comment – the only thing that is noticeably slow for me (android phone and windows 10 slightly aging computer) are posts with lots of twitter imbeds.  The post and the frames (and any plaintext) come up immediately, followed by the formatted tweet and finally any photos.  This is the case for any page with a lot of tweets, and sometimes even if there is only one tweet with pictures.  Even at its worst, I don’t recall having to look at the modem to see if the connection has dropped, so it is still close to sub-second response time.  If I had to guess, I would put site issues at the bottom of the list of possible reasons for the slow response.

    You guys all do great work.  Thank you.

  49. 49.

    J R in WV

    @NotMax:

    Fixing the site’s line spacing display discrepancies when viewing with Firefox would be nice.

    @WaterGirl:

    @NotMax: That is a Firefox issue.  All the other browsers handle that properly.

    I haven’t noticed any problem like that with my Firefox on Linux, running Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS. Maybe it’s a windoze problem?

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    Only quirk I have on Android tablet or phone is dropdown ads obscure the navigation arrows, using either the mobile or desktop views, at least two browsers (Chrome and Samsung).

    Load time and functionality seem fine.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    @Sloane Ranger: In WordPress, you can think of “Plugins” as mini programs that each handle a particular function.  And they are all written/programmed by different companies.

    There’s one to handle spam, there’s one to handle editing, there’s one to handle moderation of comments (approving, deleting, etc), there’s one to automatically add a post to John’s twitter feed, etc.

    Two of the ones we are using started to misbehave and slow down the site.

  54. 54.

    N M

    @WaterGirl: Lurker and very occasionally commented here, Ihave an iPhone 7 (Luddite, I know!) and have experienced the page loading hang as well.  I am happy to help test.

  61. 61.

    Haroldo

    Thanks, Water Girl, for dealing with these thankless tasks.

    Everything with the exception of using the backward/forward arrows to navigate responses works quite well for me. (PC/Win 10/Google)

  63. 63.

    NotMax

    @trollhattan

    I don’t want to make a big thing about it nor to dwell on it but will replicate it here this one time. The list which follows as typed for entry here is single spaced. If all five items in the list below show up single spaced for you, great. They don’t display that way for me. Again, only happens here, and only cropped up with the latest site rebuild.

    One
    Two
    Three
    Four
    Five

  64. 64.

    Ken

    @WaterGirl: I see an extra space between 4 and 5.  Firefox on Windows.

    Are you using text mode and adding <br> at each line?  That’s where I’ve seen this before, when trying to put in a poem and breaking the lines.

    Same with NotMax at 63.

    The HTML for NotMax’s list is:
    <div class=”comment-content“>
    <p>@<a href=…>…</a></p>
    <p>I don’t ….</p>
    <p>One<br />
    Two<br />
    Three<br />
    Four<br />
    Five</p>
    </div>

    When I paste that into an HTML document it doesn’t have the extra line, so I assume it’s something with the CSS for one of the containing elements.

  65. 65.

    New Deal democrat

    The last 3 or 4 days Balloon Juice has been almost completely unusable on my iPad. Constantly crashing in the middle of loading.

    On a totally unrelated topic, I posted my final 2020 Presidential and Senate forecasts today:

    Here’s the link to the Presidential forecast (Hint: Biden 350, Trump 181, 7 toss-up*
    https://bonddad.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-final-2020-presidential-electoral.html
    And the Senate forecast (Dems 51, GOP 48, GA special to runoff)
    https://bonddad.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-final-2020-senate-nowcast-51.html

    *unless SCOTUS decides to completely blow up the Republic

  66. 66.

    dmsilev

    I can help with iPad testing (Air 3, so recent-ish model). I wonder, though, whether it might be safer to just turn off the problematic plugins and wait until after Tuesday to troubleshoot them.

  69. 69.

    There go two miscreants

    @WaterGirl: does this list right to you

    (not JR but) FF on Win10, I do see the extra space.

    ETA: Sorry, got confused about what was being asked.

  70. 70.

    CaseyL

    Shout out, kudos, and mille grazie (or grazie mille) to WaterGirl and the whole blog maintenance team!

    I can’t believe how much work it is to run this site, and am deeply grateful for all you do.  BJ is my home away from home.

    I haven’t had any issues, but then I mostly come here on my MacBook Pro.  Occasionally on my Android phone, where any issues have to do with the ads occluding the posts, but that’s a minor bagatelle (I just scroll down).

    PS: I do see an extra space between “4” and “5,” and between “Four” and “Five.”

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    @There go two miscreants: Yeah, everyone with Firefox on Windows appears to see the extra space.

    I’ll be interested to see whether J. R. sees the extra space with Linux, rather than Windows.

    I had assumed it was a Firefox issue, but it may be just a Firefox/Windows issue.

  75. 75.

    H.E.Wolf

    My setup is basically stone knives and bearskins – rendering moot the majority of the problems being found and addressed – so this is just a thank-you note to WaterGirl for all you contribute toward the smooth running of this site!

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    @dmsilev:  I see what you’re saying, but when the problem happens, it’s really obvious.  The site slows to a crawl and you can hear the sound of whaling wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    So I think it’s safe to try it tomorrow (Monday).  It’s easy enough to turn off the plugin if we need to on Tuesday.  But I’m hoping the code change fixes it, and I really appreciate their quick response.

    I texted our site developer a note that said “the election is our Super Bowl” so we have to get this figured out.  He phoned me at least a minute after that.  :-)

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    @dmsilev: Added you to the list for testing the iPad issue.

    But yeah, I’m not gonna do any testing related to the iPad issue before the election.  But I would like the other plugin to be functioning, so that’s worth doing before.

    I’ll let everyone know when the new code is in place, with the new index, and we’ll see how the site works for computers, phones, etc.

    As a bonus, it will be really obvious whether it helps with iPads or not.

  80. 80.

    cain

    @Calouste:

    They know that voter backlash is real and there will be a price to be paid. As I was saying earlier, the feds cannot invalidate the votes for state and local races. They have no jurisdiction – and that means all those local GOP pols pushing for it are going to eat it in the shorts.

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    @debbie: We might have to have a post on on what happens when Flash doesn’t work anymore after January.  I just saw that earlier this week, and I’m not sure what all the implications are.

    Hoping someone here will know!

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    @cain: No, it’s worse than that!  With the 100k votes in Texas, the ruling suggests that they might invalidate ONLY the federal races and not the rest.

    Which, if it didn’t stink to high heaven before, will surely reek.

  85. 85.

    Joy in FL

    Watergirl, thanks for keeping this sanctuary of jackals running : )

    I just got back from Publix. I live in a very red Florida county northwest of Tampa. I happily, proudly wore my Biden Harris shirt. I saw one person wearing a Trump shirt.  I wanted to ask him in a friendly way: WTF? but I doubted my ability to sustain authentic friendliness.  Three people said they liked my shirt. A fourth person had on a Biden Harris mask. We mutually complimented each other’s political garb.  I hardly go anywhere now, so it was particularly nice to see allies.

  86. 86.

    Ken

    @debbie: Then I can only blame Flash.

    Only for the next two months.

     

    @WaterGirl: Twitter and Facebook are on top of the Flash end-of-life so their embeds should still work.  We might lose some third-party ads, boo hoo.

    Also end-of-life doesn’t mean the plugins stop working or the servers stop delivering flash files.  I think I read that Microsoft will be disabling the Flash plugin in IE and Edge, but don’t recall anything about Firefox or Chrome.  I need to read up on that. There may be some annoying inconsistencies as it gradually disappears.

  87. 87.

    low-tech cyclist

    @WaterGirl: when the problem happens, it’s really obvious.  The site slows to a crawl and you can hear the sound of whaling and gnashing of teeth.

    Maybe someone in your home is watching Moby Dick when this happens?

    ETA: Damn! Beaten to it by dmsilev!

  89. 89.

    MattF

    @Ken: Also, Flash has been API non grata for some years now on iOS, so it seems unlikely that advertisers would use it very much.

  90. 90.

    Fair Economist

    @WaterGirl:

    I don’t understand what you mean by that. Are you saying you would like to be able to take, let’s say Kay’s comment at #10 and post that on twitter?

    Yes, exactly. There’s a lot of witty or insightful things here I’d like to tweet without seeming to claim credit.

  91. 91.

    Cam-WA

    I’d be happy to help test the “slow loading with iPads” issue.  My wife’s and my iPads are NOT old (purchased new 2019), and BJ is nearly unusable (actually, when it is at its worst, it IS unusable…>30 sec to load MOST of the front page…post titles + twitter text, with images from Twitter either coming along later or not at all)

    Also, although it isn’t as bad, slow loading is also an issue with our iPhones…

  93. 93.

    WaterGirl

    @Ken: Hmm.  What I read made it sound like Flash would no longer work on a Mac.  There’s no room in my head for details about that right now, but hopefully when the election is over, that will change.

  94. 94.

    WhatsMyNym

    Opera has a new browser out which is available for iPad or iPhone – “Opera Touch web browser” in the App Store.

    Haven’t tried it, I use Android, but their regular browsers are great and have built in ad blocking.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    @Fair Economist: I am not a twitter user, so when we were working on the site, at first I asked for what you are asking for, but then I checked with the person who had said they wanted to be able to link to twitter, and they said they only wanted to be able to tweet the link to the whole post.

    So we almost had that, but then we didn’t.

    If we ever pay for a set of changes, maybe that can be on it.

  97. 97.

    Scout211

    Water Girl,

    I usually use my iPad for BJ.  I am on an iPad Pro, but not the new one, I think it’s maybe two years old?

    I would be happy to help. However, my internet is very slow out here in the boonies so my experience may not be all that useful to you.

    ETA:  I have not experienced the problems other iPad users are mentioning. I haven’t updated to iOS 14.  I’m still on the latest iOS 13. I’m not sure if that makes a difference.

  99. 99.

    WaterGirl

    So, what do you guys tell your pets today (and for a few more days) when they come over to ask why the hell they are not being fed yet?

    “It’s too early” doesn’t seem to be doing the trick.

  100. 100.

    dm

    Thanks for keeping the site going, WaterGirl, and for the political organizing resources you post and maintain.

    I have noticed that the Abbreviated Pundit Roundup threads at DailyKos also balk on my older iPad when they’re twitter-heavy (it’s gotten to the point that I don’t even bother to try when twitter-obsessed Greg Dworkin edits the pundit roundup there).

    Perhaps that datum helps debug the twitter-and-old-iPad problem.

  101. 101.

    J R in WV

    @WaterGirl:

    OK, there is an extra space between 4 and 5. Definitely there is a space.. .

    I also have to admit that that extra space does not have any effect on my ability to count to 5, or to read the list…

  102. 102.

    WaterGirl

    @dm:

    I have noticed that the Abbreviated Pundit Roundup threads at DailyKos also balk on my older iPad when they’re twitter-heavy (it’s gotten to the point that I don’t even bother to try when twitter-obsessed Greg Dworkin edits the pundit roundup there).

    That information really does help!  thank you

  104. 104.

    dm

    PS., I’m willing to help test solutions to the iPad problem, but probably not in time for Tuesday.

  105. 105.

    WaterGirl

    @dm: Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  The iPad issue is definitely waiting until after Tuesday.

    It’s the search plugin that we’re changing the code on before Tuesday.  And it’s the twitter feed plugin that I hope to hear from them on, also before Tuesday.

  109. 109.

    J R in WV

    @WaterGirl:

    I texted our site developer a note that said “the election is our Super Bowl” so we have to get this figured out. He phoned me at least a minute after that. :-)

     

    A WHOLE minute later?!?!?!!!!!!!!  That’s totally acceptable, kinda. ;-)

  110. 110.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: Presumably one could post the link to the comment (from the date/time link on the top/right in the comment) elsewhere.

    That generally works fine, except…

    If there are one/a few/lots of tweets or ads in the thread.  Then the page scrolls when the tweets/ads are loaded and one doesn’t have the comment in question at the top of the page any more.  (At least it happens for me on Chrome on Winders.)

    E.g. Robert Sneddon’s #30 here

    Thanks for all you do, WG and crew.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    trollhattan

    @NotMax:

    Oh THAT glitch.

    I use soft returns and add a dummy last return with a period as a workaround but yeah, a glitch.

    Item
    Item
    Item
    Item the last
    .

    Et cetera.

  113. 113.

    smedley the uncertain

    Works fine with my old Nexus 7. Full Page loading fast except last paragraph is fuzzy for a second.  Usually use Win 7/10 and Latest FF.

    Thanks Watergirl for ALL you do.

  114. 114.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl: @NotMax:

    As followup the lists render correctly in Chrome on this Win 10 mashine, I just try and use FF as much as possible because they’re not data-mining my couch.

  115. 115.

    Gvg

    @WaterGirl: I have a 2 year old iPad Pro 1 and haven’t noticed anything. I suspect I am not useful for this problem but if you announce when the test is I will respond if I notice anything. I guess I’ll speak up if other iPad people say they are having problems to say if I do or don’t.

  116. 116.

    Another Scott

    ObOpenThread??

    Not to hijack the thread, but ICYMI:

    This is grotesque. I would only remind you, as I have before, that nobody is a guest of the Russians this many years because they have nice blue eyes. https://t.co/hrs6yi6QtS

    — Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) November 1, 2020

    Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  117. 117.

    mrmoshpotato

    Tweets in the posts aren’t loading on some browsers.  I just get the text, URLs and date link like it’s a comment.

    Windows – Firefox:No.  Chrome: Yes

    Android 9 -DuckDuckGo:No.  Firefox:No.  Chrome: Yes

  118. 118.

    WaterGirl

    @Another Scott: Every comment has a comment ID #, so I imagine it would be do-able.  The question would be how big a priority it would be for people and whether it would be worth the money.

    We can cross that bridge when we come to it, which isn’t now.  :-)

  119. 119.

    Erin in Flagstaff

    I have an iPad and get the slow loading of the page. I’d be happy to help with any testing. I use Safari on the iPad. I wonder if it behaves the same with other browser apps.

  120. 120.

    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato: Typically that happens with browsers that default to social media being turned off.  Not sure whether your YES and NO refers to whether a browser works or whether it has the problem, but I believe Firefox is one that sets social media to off, somewhere, by default.

  126. 126.

    Madeleine

    I generally read BJ on an iPad Air 2. The site has been loading slowly but I’d wait several seconds and it would usually show up in stages, photos last. John’s Twitter feed disappeared several days ago—I’ve been thinking of inquiring where it went because I miss it.

    I’m happy to help if I can but I’m not very tech savvy.

  129. 129.

    ellenr

    @WaterGirl: Firefox on Android also has spaces    The site runs differently between a Galaxy Note10 and a Galaxy S10.   Both running Firefox.  Been crashing on the S10.  makes no sense at all.

  132. 132.

    WaterGirl

    @Ruckus: Me, too.  I came away thinking that the AGs are all planning and strategizing together and that individual states are not on their own.  I found it reassuring.

  133. 133.

    frosty

    @JanieM: Do any of you really keep up with every day thread?

    Raises hand. Posts and all comments. It costs me about 4+ hours a day. We are a prolific bunch.

  135. 135.

    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato: Then poke around in Firefox and look for something that is related to social media.  I don’t use Firefox so I can’t give you directions for exactly what to look for, but I have given these vague directions several times in the past and people tell me they found the setting and now it worked the way they wanted.

  138. 138.

    Fair Economist

    @Another Scott: A link to the comment works fine for an HTML link, but on twitter it shows a splash of Tunch and the headline for the article. I think it works on clickthru, but that’s not the point of Twitter.

  139. 139.

    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato:  Great!

    If it would only take a minute, you could write up where to find that setting in DuckDuckGo?  I could start a collection for the various browser so I would be able to do better than say “poke around for the setting related to social media…”.

    You know, now that you say “privacy setting”, i think maybe that’s what someone mentioned about Firefox.  It was many months ago so I may be remembering wrong, but that definitely rings a bell.

  140. 140.

    Another Scott

    ObOpenThread??

    ELECTION NIGHT PREVIEW THREAD.

    — Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato) November 2, 2020

    (An hour-by-hour prediction of state results. The thread is still being updated as I post this.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  143. 143.

    J R in WV

    I try to at least scan every thread, esp On the Road for the beauty and variety.

    Some days when I go to town it doesn’t happen. Most days I stay home to avoid the Trump Plague. Those days I catch it all, the whole Balloon Juice day.

  144. 144.

    Gvg

    I have been having an issue with links in people’s posts to twitter for about a month. It would say something went wrong and have blank twitter. About 2 weeks ago  I discovered if I tried again the same link would work fine. I assumed it was twitter changing something and didn’t mention it here. I think I had it happen somewhere else too but now I’m not sure. I don’t really like twitter, so I didn’t care enough to wonder much.

    the second time works every time. Now that I mention it, it does seem kind of odd.

  146. 146.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: Ob = Obligatory  :-)  To muddy the thread.

    (It’s off-topic here, but I don’t see any other recent Open Threads.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  147. 147.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: Yes!  He’s doing a great service to us junkies, letting us know how to pace ourselves before we can rest knowing that Joe and Kamala actually have won.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  148. 148.

    WaterGirl

    @Gvg: Yeah, that is a twitter thing not a BJ thing.

    It works best if you refresh the page with the error message as opposed to hitting the try again button.  Page refresh works for me every time with that twitter error message.

  150. 150.

    The Lodger

    @Gvg:  Exact same thing has been happening to me 90% of the time. Also I am getting raw HTML code at the start of my reply. Looks good when I publish it though. ETA: I fix it the way WaterGirl @148 said. It’s very reliable.

  153. 153.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl: In the DuckDuckGo browser (phone only), click on the menu button (three dots, upper right), select Disable Privacy Protection.

    This apparently whitelists everything on the website you’re looking at, because now I get all the ads, but Twitter embeds load correctly. :)

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