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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / This About Sums It Up

This About Sums It Up

by John Cole|  November 2, 202011:08 pm| 106 Comments

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This About Sums It Up

I’m very seriously thinking about buying a new game tomorrow morning and just not watching tv or checking the internet all day and spend it killing dragons or something and pop out of my fantasy land around 11 to check the headlines.

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  1. 1.

    lamh36

    November 2, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    John, I’m not much an optimist usually and I know some folks are being Chicken Littles about tomorrow, but IDK, this is how I’m feeling going into tomorow…

    Maybe Biden/Harris campaign should play this song on a loop at the election day rally tomorrow

    https://youtu.be/jZpoDbFHwE4

  2. 2.

    patroclus

    November 2, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    Trump is a despicable pathetic dweeb-like fascistic psychopathic lying slimy sleazoid and he is going down bigly.

    My song is Dancing in the Street by Martha and the Vandellas.

  3. 3.

    lamh36

    November 2, 2020 at 11:14 pm

    Listen to our soon to be Madame Vice President-Elect John

     

    @KamalaHarris

    ·
    3m

    Take a breath. Set your alarm. Try to get a good night’s rest. We got this.

    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1323477759595847681?s=20

  4. 4.

    The Oracle of Solace

    November 2, 2020 at 11:18 pm

    My plan is first to do some filming & editing of a QAnonsense video, then to play historical games (maybe finish my current Hearts of Iron IV game) and forget about the outside world until nighttime. The Barbarian is working the polls all day tomorrow, so it’s just me and her greyhound all day long.

  5. 5.

    slightly_peeved

    November 2, 2020 at 11:18 pm

    538 inject uncertainty into their model because of Nate Silver’s hunches, and they don’t look at district data. Dave Wasserman (who sounded the alarm in 2016 that the district data looked bad) says the current district data is in line with the state and national polling. LeanTossup’s model integrates district data and demographic analysis and they have a good record worldwide for election modeling. They’re predicting over 400 EVs for Biden. That being said, your plan for tomorrow sounds pretty good – I’m anxious and I don’t even live there.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    November 2, 2020 at 11:18 pm

    It does sometimes feel we’ve been trapped inside The Stanley Parable since about Labor Day.

  7. 7.

    patrick II

    November 2, 2020 at 11:20 pm

    I will check in here and MSNBC occassionally as long as Kornacki isn’t bouncing off of the wall, but mostly I borrowed the latest Jack Reacher book from the library and I am going to read about Reacher just beating the crap out of some bad guys.

  8. 8.

    VeniceRiley

    November 2, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    I have to work, but plan to doomscroll twitter for voter intimidation and long line and broken machines and the screams of my people. Then I expect an evening looking at Maddow’s effing handsome self like a crushed out schoolgirl and rooting for the side. I’ll endure anything for her. Even Kornackie.

  9. 9.

    Mike in NC

    November 2, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    The Fat Orange Bastard is fucking toast.

  10. 10.

    TomatoQueen

    November 2, 2020 at 11:25 pm

    from 1976, featuring some serious kazoo, our most beloved Steve Goodman:

    https://youtu.be/1CsTkMFmtUk

  11. 11.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 2, 2020 at 11:25 pm

    @patrick II: Tana French has a new book out that sounds promising– the last one disappointed me– but I know myself well enough to know I’ll be staring at the TV from sundown on. I will make myself get out into the fresh air before dark.

  12. 12.

    JustRuss

    November 2, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    Do it Cole.  Worrying doesn’t accomplish anything, might as well take your mind off things for a while.  I’ll be getting together with some family, and we will not be watching the returns.  Although I expect someone will peek from time to time.

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2020 at 11:27 pm

    @patroclus:

    Trump is a despicable pathetic dweeb-like fascistic psychopathic lying slimy sleazoid

    So, another day ending with ‘y’ is it?

  14. 14.

    jl

    November 2, 2020 at 11:27 pm

    Another catastrophe of the pandemic is that this year, with the early vote versus day of election vote death cage match, the frantic manic return watching ramped up this weekend and lurches towards an open ended series of chaotic climaxes and anti-climaxes.

    I trust there will be vaccine within four years, and the country can figure out a sensible way of doing elections, if Biden wins. If Trump wins, looks like elections will be pretty cut and dried.

  15. 15.

    jl

    November 2, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    @JustRuss: “Do it Cole.”

    I think Truman said he had a habit of reading quietly and turning in early on election day. Wise, IMHO.

  16. 16.

    lgerard

    November 2, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    Don’t worry, be happy

    A lifelong Republican in N.H., who will be likely first voter on Election Day, backs Biden

  17. 17.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 2, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    Huge sigh

    NEW into @VICENews tonight: Harris County clerk Chris Hollins tells me that he is closing 9 out of the 10 drive-in voting locations in the county tomorrow in order to protect votes after Republicans continue to appeal. The Toyota Center drive-through WILL remain open— Elizabeth Landers (@ElizLanders) November 3, 2020

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 2, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    whenever I see Carville talking up Dems on TV I wonder if Mary Matalin is just out of camera view, hanging upside down from the rafters, hissing and snarling, or if he slaughters a goat before the light goes on to distract her with the smell of fresh, warm blood.

  19. 19.

    Punchy

    November 2, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    If….somehow….FL gets called early for JoBi, the night will go smooth and easy.  I suspect none of the swings will get called for certain tomorrow, so Trump will simply declare himself winner nonetheless and sleep will be nigh impossible.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2020 at 11:31 pm

    As for tomorrow’s plans, I have to go into work in the morning; some troubleshooting just can’t be done remotely. After noon, I’ll probably be at home pretending to work but actually either doomscrolling (which, if there’s any justice, will be 2020 word of the year) or maybe video games or books or something.

  21. 21.

    khead

    November 2, 2020 at 11:31 pm

    I’m hopeful.

  22. 22.

    JoyceH

    November 2, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    I’ve got guys coming tomorrow to pump out the septic tank – how’s that for symbolism?

  23. 23.

    Kent

    November 2, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    My wife and I are white, middle aged, and reasonably well off and in stable professions.  The results of this election are unlikely to affect us in any meaningful direct way.  This election is as low stakes for us personally as it is for anyone.  Yet I can barely stand it.

    I can’t even imagine what it might be like to be young and not part of the majority and be living with actual threats of losing rights, careers, and a future liveable world as a result of this election.  Someone for whom it is literally life and death.   My teen age daughters are just tense as hell.  And there is really nothing I can even say to them.  Except it will be all over soon.  It’s a very helpless feeling.

  24. 24.

    MisterForkbeard

    November 2, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    @slightly_peeved: I think Adam summed this up earlier: The political scientist in him says Biden will win and maybe win big. The guy who analyzes terrorism thinks there will be lots of shenanigans and he doesn’t know how it’ll out.

  25. 25.

    Seanly

    November 2, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    I have to work. And I have a phone interview at noon – hoping they don’t ask a political question. I’m a civil engineer (bridges are my specialty) and it tends to be a conservative field.

    I’m hopeful that Biden can not just win, but stomps Trump. Not sure what I will do after work. Part of me wants to watch some coverage, but I’m also scared shitless.

    Not sure what I’ll watch. I’ve watched all of Columbo, started Supernatural & am caught up with the last season now, and The Boys along with a bunch of other crap over the last few months.

  26. 26.

    khead

    November 2, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    Also, have some belated Halloween Mason.

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    November 2, 2020 at 11:36 pm

    I feel you, Cole.

    I feel you??

  28. 28.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 2, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Give this thread a read by a Texas attorney who does work in the Federal courts, specifically in the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.

    Ok they’re basically mooting this part of the case. https://t.co/Yq24diE18q

    — Raffi Melkonian (@RMFifthCircuit) November 3, 2020

  29. 29.

    Kent

    November 2, 2020 at 11:38 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Honestly, Chris Hollins may end up being one of the absolute heroes of this election.  What Harris County has been doing to get out the vote in a state that is hostile to every one of his efforts is just breathtaking.  The 24 hour early voting locations.  All this drive-through stuff.  Fighting every single fight to the end.

    This is the kind of absolute badass we need in the next Biden Administration working tirelessly for the whole country.  My daughter says he’s pretty hot too:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hollins

  30. 30.

    gwangung

    November 2, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    I’m going through Broadway show tunes on YouTube. Politically themed ones, but…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX802gfvN9Y

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    November 2, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    @Seanly

    Respond that you make it a practice of voting for Roebling as a write-in.

    :)

  32. 32.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    I have set up work to do at the polls way too early (we’re not handing out sample ballots because of the pandemic, so at least I can go back to bed.) I’m going to be doing GOTV texting much of the day. This afternoon I went to Mark Warner’s final campaign event in Alexandria and then did my only door-knocking (mostly just dropping campaign lit) afterward until it got dark. Dunno what I’m going to do tomorrow, with no Election Night party to go to.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    November 2, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    @Seanly: Best of luck for your interview.  You’ve been through a lot, and you’re still standing.  You’ll do great in the interview.

  34. 34.

    JAFD

    November 2, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    I have a covid test and medical checkup on Thursday, ordered to self-quarantine from then to 10th – right eye operation day.  So getting supplies together, organizing projects that can be done one-eyed, running errands tomorrow and Wednesday.

    Be of good cheer, jackals and gentlepeople, keep your hopes and your masks high !

  35. 35.

    BruceFromOhio

    November 2, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    I’d play until Thursday afternoon. Then come up for air and a virus definitions update.

  36. 36.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 2, 2020 at 11:42 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: That guy’s making me look bad!

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    November 2, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    @khead: Did you see that I thought I was missing 2 of your pets?  But I think I’ve got them after all.

  38. 38.

    Kay

    November 2, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I’m grateful I have to work tomorrow. I’m kind of a wreck. Everyone is though. We broke down the Democratic headquarters here early – we usually do it the day after the election- because people were worried it would be a kind of target if there’s…trouble. It was kind of somber breaking it down. It feels more serious than an ordinary election.

  39. 39.

    Luciamia

    November 2, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    Cole, godammint! Enough already.

  40. 40.

    Ivan X

    November 2, 2020 at 11:44 pm

    (reposting from downstairs in Cole’s previous freakout thread, because it seems just as apropos in this one)

    Woman Hopes She Did Enough Worrying To Help Biden Campaign

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    November 2, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    @Kent: I will second your daughter’s opinion.

  42. 42.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 2, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    @slightly_peeved:

    I was so happy somebody pointed me to LeanTossUp. Their analysis is great. Would also recommend electoral-vote.com and 270 to win along with 538. Also the Economist. 270 incorporates many models in a consensus map

  43. 43.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 2, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    @JAFD:

    Hope everything turns out all right for you and you stay healthy!

  44. 44.

    NotMax

    November 2, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    @gwangung

    A couple of (now) obscurities which fit that Playbill:

    Sign Here.

    Little Tin Box.

    ;)

  45. 45.

    Seanly

    November 2, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    @Seanly:  d’oh, I forgot about The Mandolorian. I wanted to rewatch the 1st season & have 3 more episodes to go before I watch the new season.

  46. 46.

    Mary G

    November 2, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    I’ve had some of my lowest lows in the past four years, and still just feel sick whenever I think about Hillary and what could’ve been instead of what is.

    For whatever reason, though, I woke up after the two and a half hours of sleep I got last night absolutely certain of a Democratic tsunami. I doubt that pollsters are getting all the new voters, young and old, that have come out of the woodwork.

    I did a few of those electoral college calculators online where you can disperse the tossups to either side and the fact that ?FUCKING TEXAS?is legitimately one of them just made me delirious with joy. My guesses ran from 375 to 412 EVs for Biden.

    All the people who bitched about Beto not running for Senate again missed the under-the-radar work ignored by the pundits who can’t be arsed to go anywhere but diners in the MidWest salted with “ordinary undecided voters” who just happen to have been the county chair of the Republican party for years.

    Women’s magazines have been writing some of the best and in some cases genuinely radical political commentary out there, and they reach all the women who like to look at $14,000 Gucci outfits, most of whom are not your standard starving gig workers, but married to men with money who probably vote straight Republican. It’s the Woman’s March on steroids.

  47. 47.

    PaulWartenberg

    November 2, 2020 at 11:48 pm

    Yeah, I’m feeling the same way John.

    (begins crying uncontrollably over factors he can’t control)

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 2, 2020 at 11:48 pm

    Looks like they’re having fun in Iowa!

    Sources tell CBS News the voicemail circulated in the first district where incumbent Democrat Abby Finkenauer and Republican challenger Ashley Hinson are battling in close congressional race.

    — Musadiq Bidar (@Bidar411) November 2, 2020

  49. 49.

    PaulWartenberg

    November 2, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    @slightly_peeved:

    400 EVs implies Biden is getting all the big battleground states – PA, FL, GA, TX (!) – so it would be pretty to hope so.

  50. 50.

    C Stars

    November 2, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    I actually have a ton of work to do tomorrow, so I’m hoping that’ll keep me somewhat distracted during the day. My kiddo, who is 7 and not completely cognizant of what’s going on these days, randomly decreed yesterday that Tuesdays and Fridays would heretofore be our family’s “screen-free” days. So I’m going to do my best to abide by that in the evening. Maybe a nice game of “Obstacles”? My spouse does not plan to do the same, and is much better at sneaking peeks at his phone, so I’m sure I’ll catch onto the news by the look on his face.

  51. 51.

    Yutsano

    November 2, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    Around 1630 PST I’m going to be jumping into my car for some professional torture. I won’t know anything until I’m done around 1815 or so. And then driving home. Oh and work. So yeah, I get to find out what happens around 1900 or so.

  52. 52.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 2, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    The Brits got a mention downstairs so here’s some words from  me Irish.

    @Mary G:

    For whatever reason, though, I woke up after the two and a half hours of sleep I got last night absolutely certain of a Democratic tsunami. I doubt that pollsters are getting all the new voters, young and old, that have come out of the woodwork.

    I’m of a similar mind, the vibe is completely different this year. The energy is different.

  53. 53.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    November 2, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    I am calm as fuck because I know that I’ve done all that I can do and there’s nothing that worrying will change, except my to negatively affect my health. What is going to happen is going to happen and we’re all along for the ride, good or bad. You can only cross bridges when you get to them.

    That thought and lots of THC are keeping me in the zone.

  54. 54.

    Shakti

    November 2, 2020 at 11:51 pm

    The ladies of The View had Nate Silver on to yell at him yesterday, today. My cousins are on FaceBook trying to reassure themselves with Vegas odds.

  55. 55.

    khead

    November 2, 2020 at 11:51 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Cool.  Thanks.  Was going to email you in the morning to see if they turned up.  It would be typical Mittens to hide from any attention.

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    November 2, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    @Seanly

    The two seasons of the Amazon original series Patriot strike me as being right in your ballpark.

  57. 57.

    Belafon

    November 2, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: over at LGF, someone pointed out that Texas law requires buildings on election day, even though they allow structures for early voting .

  58. 58.

    Kay

    November 2, 2020 at 11:55 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    That’s a good attitude. Usually I can get there but not with this.

  59. 59.

    debbie

    November 2, 2020 at 11:57 pm

    Having grown up with Family Circle, this is cracking me up.

  60. 60.

    patrick II

    November 2, 2020 at 11:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Thanks for that.  I didn’t know her, she has impressive reviews and they are set in Ireland. My library has several of her books so I will be reading one of her stories soon.

  61. 61.

    Mel

    November 2, 2020 at 11:59 pm

    @Seanly: Congrats on the interview! It will be fine, and you’ll do a great job. They’re interviewing you because they know you are skilled, knowledgeable, and damn good at what you do.  It’s all good.

  62. 62.

    jl

    November 3, 2020 at 12:00 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Every site has its advantages and disadvantages, as does every approach. I like the Economist and Leantossup approaches the best. For one thing unlike Cook and 538, which in different ways are mystery meat analysis, you can figure out what their models do conceptually. I think 538 qualifies as mystery meat because they have added on so many damned bells and whistles to the model that it’s hard to tell what it is actually doing. And lots of rules of thumb that aren’t explained. Edit: remember Silver started out as a pretty transparent poll aggregator that people liked because he was more transparent, IMHO, about what he was doing, rather than less. I think he tries to be transparent, but if you Rube Goldberg your model out too much, it gets hard to explain.

    Below is my best guess how Economist and Leantossup models work from their descriptions.

    The Economist and Leantossup models have some things in common. They start with national polls and use historical correlations between regions, states and various political districts to infer what the national polls mean for political subdivisions. Both use different approaches developed in political science. The Economist model pays a lot of attention to so-called ‘fundamentals’ that determine elections, like the economy, indicators of popular right-track wrong track mood, etc., and correlations between election results.

    I think the Leantossup people have a lot of experience in actual campaign resource allocation and GOTV work, so they focus on massive data sets of turnout and election results at multiple levels to get the correlations.

    I think both models do some out-of-sample validation to makes sure their estimated correlations are just statistical illusions. The Economist is clear about how it uses state polls. I’m not sure whether Leantossup has included them except for selected high quality ones for its historical correlation analysis (edit: but that is me reading a little between the lines, to be honest, not sure if they even use them there). But when you read those guys dissecting state polling methodology, and you wonder how many different polling organizations that produce public state polls can be used without running into the garbage-in, garbage-out problems.

    Which brings to mind, Leantossup is one of the best places to read about the technical guts of the state polls, and there is a lot of good, bad, and ugly in them.

  63. 63.

    Cheryl Rofer

    November 3, 2020 at 12:01 am

    Three hours of texting operations tomorrow. Will monitor Twitter after that, spend some time reading magazines in the living room with the cats. Pretty much what I usually do.

  64. 64.

    debbie

    November 3, 2020 at 12:01 am

    @Seanly:

    Good luck with the interview. On the phone, they can’t see you roll your eyes.

  65. 65.

    Wapiti

    November 3, 2020 at 12:02 am

    @JoyceH: Tomorrow is trash day here.

  66. 66.

    Pharniel

    November 3, 2020 at 12:03 am

    Hades is just….great.

    I highly recommend it, and it will eat your day. Fair warning.

    For super chill I have been digging Shipbreaker. And No Man’s Sky & Elite have both pushed out major updates.

    And if you hate yourself & like Waifus, Genshin Impact is…a Thing all right.

    I was planning on playing video games all day, hitting the gym, and generally trying to go to bed and wakeup to the 4th with our new normal but The Business (A/K/A The Client, The Guy Who Pays Me, and rando consultant The Client has been employing) want to ‘just have a quick chat’ about various proposed projects. The Client actually has the day off, as they do for every even numbered election year.

    Good news is that I most likely have a job for  the first half of next year.
    The bad news is all the bullshit I have to do to set it up for the Guy Who Pays Me’s benefit.

    I’ve never been good about asking for raises either, but if they want me to work on 3 projects at once, it very well might be time.

  67. 67.

    slightly_peeved

    November 3, 2020 at 12:04 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I really like that G Elliott Morris’ has open-sourced his model and published his methodology. Meanwhile, Nate Silver blocks Morris on twitter for ‘arguing in bad faith’ while justifying his own methodology by essentially saying ‘trust me – I’ve done this a while’.

  68. 68.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 3, 2020 at 12:04 am

    @patrick II: the Dublin Murder Squad books are great, IMHO. The Wych Elm… could’ve used a strong editor.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 3, 2020 at 12:05 am

    This About Sums It Up 1

  70. 70.

    RaflW

    November 3, 2020 at 12:05 am

    Apropos the comic at the top.

    @JulieBehre
    Replying to @BettyBowers and @RadioFreeTom
    The Presidential election might as well just be a series of Goofus and Gallant panels.

    (Not to be missed in that is the notion that Tom had just retweeted Betty Bowers. We live in interesting times.)

  71. 71.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 3, 2020 at 12:05 am

    @Kent:

    My daughter says he’s pretty hot too

    There’s a 78-year-old lady in Georgia who agrees with your daughter ?

  72. 72.

    Mel

    November 3, 2020 at 12:06 am

    @WaterGirl: Make that three in agreement.  !Meow!

  73. 73.

    Mel

    November 3, 2020 at 12:07 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Or rather, fourth in agreement!

  74. 74.

    Kent

    November 3, 2020 at 12:11 am

    @Mel: One way or the other, I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Chris Hollins.   The country is full of rising stars.  Gives me hope for the future.

  75. 75.

    patrick II

    November 3, 2020 at 12:12 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That’s cold.

    Well deserved though. Someone of my age thinks of soldiers competing against the VC in the jungles of Vietnam.  It would not work out well.

  76. 76.

    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

    November 3, 2020 at 12:15 am

    LANDSLIDE: Biden sweeps Dixville Notch 5-Zip

  77. 77.

    Kay

    November 3, 2020 at 12:16 am

    I know you-all hate Dixville Notch but you won it. Despite your irrational hatred.

    Dave Weigel
    @daveweigel
    Biden is the first presidential candidate to sweep Dixville Notch since Richard Nixon in 1960.

  78. 78.

    Mel

    November 3, 2020 at 12:16 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Oh, my…

    Well, at least now the evil clowns have some serious competition for the starring roles in my election stress nightmares.

  79. 79.

    Mai Naem mobile

    November 3, 2020 at 12:18 am

    1. @lamh36: I am surprised that song isn’t used by political campaigns for intro music or at least crowd music.  I wonder if the Jacksons charge too much to use their music. The song i think Dem campaigns should use for crowd music  is Hot Chocolate’s “Everyone’s A Winner.” It’s a peppy positive song.
  80. 80.

    dmsilev

    November 3, 2020 at 12:20 am

    @Kay: Guess we can stop counting votes now.

  81. 81.

    patrick II

    November 3, 2020 at 12:25 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Starz has a “Dublin Murders” series which I would guess is based on the books.  Seven-day free tryout.  But I am not sure I want to see the show ahead of the books.  Do you know anything about the tv series?

  82. 82.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 3, 2020 at 12:28 am

    This is the president of the United States on the night before a presidential election speaking complete and utter gibberish.

  83. 83.

    NotMax

    November 3, 2020 at 12:28 am

    FYI, Dixville Notch results are in:

    Biden – 5
    Trump – 0

  84. 84.

    Kay

    November 3, 2020 at 12:28 am

    @dmsilev:

    I just feel like “5” is a large enough sample.

  85. 85.

    Mai Naem mobile

    November 3, 2020 at 12:30 am

    @Kent: Not only Chris Hollins(he’s only 33!) Lina Hidalgo the Harris County Judge is also a hero and she’s only 29. I wonder how much Democratic political talent got lost in Texas in the last 25 years because of the GOP dominance of Texas. The only Texas pols(not counting LBJ era) I’ve really been aware of are Anne Richards, Lloyd Daggett, Lloyd Bentsen, Wendy Davis,Beto, Henry Cisneros and the Castro brothers.

  86. 86.

    dmsilev

    November 3, 2020 at 12:30 am

    @Kay: Definitely.

  87. 87.

    Mel

    November 3, 2020 at 12:31 am

    @Kent: I’m hopeful. There are some pretty impressive youngsters making themselves known nationally (and at the local level in my area).

    I’m further encouraged by the investment  I’m seeing a lot of former students exhibit. They’re getting involved and engaged on a level that I’ve not seen before – volunteering, fundraising, being exceptionally vocal and visible. Some are starting to run for school-board positions or local offices – they understand what is at stake, at every level.

  88. 88.

    JPL

    November 3, 2020 at 12:33 am

    @Kay: and so it begins.

  89. 89.

    jl

    November 3, 2020 at 12:38 am

    @Kay:  ‘ I just feel like “5” is a large enough sample. ‘

    I smell massive voter fraud. Easy to do with just 5 votes!

  90. 90.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 3, 2020 at 12:38 am

    @Mai Naem mobile: A lot of it, like Ann Richards daughter Cecile, wound up going outside the state and running national advocacy organizations because they were effectively locked out within the state.

  91. 91.

    Kattails

    November 3, 2020 at 12:43 am

    @Kay: I moved up here from New Jersey in 1979.  You all can laugh, but from what I’ve learned about this state, that is very good news. In fact, I’m going to pour myself a modest libation, give the cats a couple of extra treats, and sleep very well.

    Good ad from VoteVets— “If it comes down to Trump not wanting to leave the White House, our veterans will be happy to walk him out”.  This is a link to the thread; if you go back to the main feed, there’s another good one from Major General Paul Eaton.

    I look forward to Brayden Harrington giving a lead-in speech for the inauguration. His clip earlier was awesome.

  92. 92.

    Felanius Kootea

    November 3, 2020 at 12:45 am

    @Adam L Silverman: 5th circuit ruled against the TX GOP according to Twitter: https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1323500054733328386?s=21

  93. 93.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 3, 2020 at 12:45 am

    @patrick II: I enjoyed it. As always they made some changes, and kind of mashed the first two books into one story. I was hoping they’d continue it, as my favorite book in the series is the third or fourth

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    November 3, 2020 at 12:48 am

    @Felanius Kootea

    If my math is right, Texas Republican record of wins on these latest attempts at challenge now stands at 0 in 10.

  95. 95.

    James E Powell

    November 3, 2020 at 12:53 am

    @NotMax:

    The two seasons of the Amazon original series Patriot strike me as being right in your ballpark.

    Loved that show. Watched it twice. Couldn’t get anyone else to like it.

  96. 96.

    Kattails

    November 3, 2020 at 12:55 am

    @Mai Naem mobile: You just reminded me of the late, deeply lamented Molly Ivins. She was born (just checked) in ’44, would have been a monumental asset these last few years.  “The thing about democracy, beloveds, is that it is not neat, orderly, or quiet. It requires a certain relish for confusion.”

    My local library had a couple of tapes of her reading her own books. She had a voice like warm honey.

  97. 97.

    NotMax

    November 3, 2020 at 1:02 am

    @James E Powell

    Any show with the chutzpah to title an episode “Fuck John Wayne” starts out on third base in my book. I’ll admit the first episode is convoluted and even confusing. That may be what put off the folks you mention who didn’t cotton to it.

    ;)

    Lead actor (New Zealander, later reared in Australia) does a flawless American accent. He’s also stellar in the lone season of the Aussie series Wild Boys, also available on Prime.

  98. 98.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 3, 2020 at 1:07 am

    @NotMax: 
    You live in Hawaii, right? Whatever happened with the Hawaiian Roll Commission? Can’t find any news about it after 2015 or so

  99. 99.

    NotMax

    November 3, 2020 at 1:20 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    My familiarity with the ins and outs of the byzantine byways of the Native Hawaiian sovereignty factions is next to nil. Although in an outré sense it sort of appeals to my fondness for the absurd to have a King Bumpy.

    BTW, this is a very recent related development of interest:

    Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has approved a grant that would provide the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands (DHHL) ownership of broadband spectrum to deploy wireless internet services on Kaua‘i, Lana‘i, Moloka‘i, and Maui.

    The new FCC licenses provide for exclusive use of up to 117.5 megahertz of 2.5 GHz band spectrum that can be used by DHHL to create their own wireless networks. The buildout is expected to be completed by 2022. Source

  100. 100.

    Sebastian

    November 3, 2020 at 1:47 am

    @jl:

    If I am not mistaken, leantossup looks at district polling to validate state and national trends.

    What they are seeing is Trump losing support everywhere.

  101. 101.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    November 3, 2020 at 2:09 am

    Some Nina Simone seemed punchy and perfect against the Mango Mussolini

    Backlash Blues

  102. 102.

    jl

    November 3, 2020 at 2:27 am

    @Sebastian: Yes, I think those are most important in estimating their elasticities, which is a kind of correlation.

  103. 103.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    November 3, 2020 at 2:39 am

    Cole, and anyone else, join me on Final Fantasy XIV. Lots of WOW refugees there, great community, amazing story. I’ll probably split a lot of today between helping rebuild a city after a dragon attack and learning to tank.

    I’m on Gilgamesh server.

  104. 104.

    Poptartacus

    November 3, 2020 at 8:31 am

    @johncole:

    the outer worlds on sale on steam- this game will ease your troubled mind

  105. 105.

    lethargytartare

    November 3, 2020 at 8:56 am

    I feel like John – gonna let the wife watch returns while I hole up in the man cave and play Civ6 or Path of Exile until I hear her start cheering.

    If I don’t hear any cheering by 10, I may just stay up there until next year.

  106. 106.

    evodevo

    November 3, 2020 at 8:57 am

    @NotMax: An interesting look at the convoluted history of Hawaii is Sarah Vowell’s  “Unfamiliar Fishes” – somewhat wordy, but gives a good idea of all the influences on events that led up to the annexation of Hawaii and all the warring factions involved.

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