Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Books are my comfort food!

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

You cannot love your country only when you win.

Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls 2 years from now.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

Second rate reporter says what?

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Washington Post Catch and Kill, not noticeably better than the Enquirer’s.

Rupert, come get your orange boy, you petrified old dinosaur turd.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

White supremacy is terrorism.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

Oh FFS you might as well trust a 6-year-old with a flamethrower.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

If you don’t believe freedom is for everybody, then the thing you love isn’t freedom, it is privilege.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

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  5. 5.

    Aleta

    (NYT) False News Targeting Latinos Trails the Election
    Rampant falsehoods evolved online on Wednesday, intended to make Spanish speakers question the unfolding election results and believe that President Trump was being robbed of victory. The posts proliferated on election night before anything remotely definitive was known about the results of the presidential race. “Robado,” they falsely repeated again and again in Spanish: President Trump was being robbed of a victory. He had won Arizona. George Soros was funding violent “antifa riots.”

    The baseless social media messages to Latinos trying to delegitimize the election and the results for Joseph R. Biden Jr. circulated online on Tuesday night and into Wednesday, part of a disinformation campaign to undermine Latino confidence in the vote as it unfolded.

    Ahead of Election Day, false news in Spanish tried to turn Latinos against Black Lives Matter and tie Mr. Biden to socialism, tactics that experts said could depress the Hispanic vote. Now that voting is complete, the rampant falsehoods have only garnered larger audiences — including among immigrants less familiar with the institutions of American democracy. The gist of the falsehoods is that the election is “rigged” against Mr. Trump.

    “These misinformation narratives are helping plunge the country further into chaos and confusion,” said Fadi Quran, a director at Avaaz, a nonprofit that tracks disinformation. He called the disinformation campaigns a “democratic emergency.” “The most vulnerable communities in the country are paying the highest price,” he said.

  8. 8.

    OGLiberal

    Both have been steadily and consistently moving in Biden’s direction…no movement towards Trump.  Biden may need them with the late AZ news, although I can’t see Trump Biden losing there in light of Kelly’s win.

    edit: corrected

  11. 11.

    HumboldtBlue

    @cain:

    In retrospect if made the Trumpists lose their minds and robbed them a false narrative that even the most craven of GOPers will shy away from when Trump bleats about cheating.

  12. 12.

    guachi

    I’m in the Navy. First Class Petty Officer. There’s a FB group for First Classes and it’s a dumpster fire. There are enough liberals that we are having fun roasting conservatives.

  16. 16.

    Ohio Mom

    I just woke up from a three hour nap. Sounds like I’m glad I missed the thread below, and maybe all of them need a nap too.

  17. 17.

    Full Metal Wingnut

    I burned my vacation days to take Wednesday through Friday off. And I’m glad I did but GODDAM I am going to need a vacation from my vacation!

  19. 19.

    guachi

    I’m still pleasantly surprised that GA votes still keep rolling in strong for Biden. He’s won 70.6% of the last 522,000 votes. Now down by only 33,000.

  21. 21.

    John S.

    Trump is now only up by 33,000 votes in Georgia with over 200,000 left to count.

    Looking pretty good for Biden.

  22. 22.

    hueyplong

    Dave Wasserman

    @Redistrict· 13m

    If Trump can’t prevail in Pennsylvania, he can’t prevail period – no matter what happens in AZ/GA/NV. And right now, he’s just not on pace to finish ahead.

  24. 24.

    coin operated

    The few Trumpers I have on my FB feed, mainly to keep tabs on the talking points, are coming close to full meltdown as the votes keep going Biden’s way.

  25. 25.

    hueyplong

    And if that won’t do it:

     

    Michael Crowley

    @michaelcrowley – 51m

    CNN’s Dana Bash says a source tells her Trump is feeling “down” and “starting to see this slip away”

  26. 26.

    Tim Posh-looking in a mask

    This from Brunswick Co. NC.  My heart’s confession: I know there are Democrats here, and I’m sure I’ve met both of them. Everybody I know is pro-Him: neighbors, friends, co-workers, patients, most family… And the coolest boss I’ve ever worked under. Ever. This is what saddens and haunts me. There is nothing of Him in them. What do they seek there? They are everything He is not. They feed the hungry, they rescue animals, they buy bus tickets for random wanderers,  they accept Sustainability, they don’t ask how I vote, they give the rat’s least ass if I live or die. They care. How can I hate them? I swore to god 4 yrs ago that He would never, fucking ever, come between me and the people I love. I have succeeded there. But 4 more years would be…difficult.

    My eldest brother, of 6 of us, always the most apolitical, asked me, “Why? What do they see in him? Why can’t they see right through him? Bet he was a bully in high school. He’s an obvious con man!”

    I couldn’t answer him.

    I just know I can’t hate them. I just wish I could explain them.

    Cole, how dou reconcile?

    Long time lurker, only recent commenter.

  28. 28.

    HeleninEire

    Deep breaths. That’s all I can say. Like a lot of you I have PTSD from 2016. But Biden has this. He does. I now need to take a deep breath.

  29. 29.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @hueyplong: I was just gonna post that. Wasserman’s followers are teasing him to just come out and  say “I’ve seen enough…”

  31. 31.

    Kent

    @John S.:

    Trump is now only up by 33,000 votes in Georgia with over 200,000 left to count.

    Looking pretty good for Biden.

    Some quick math.  If there are 200,000 remaining votes and Biden wins 60% of them he  gains 40,000 votes which would pass Trump.

  33. 33.

    hueyplong

    @John S.: I read down 33,000 with 100k to go, not 200k, but either way he’s been doing better than 2-1.  So GA looking pretty good.

    [Hope you’re right and the tweet I read is wrong but think either will do.]

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    @Tim Posh-looking in a mask: I struggle with several Trump people in my family. Otherwise, good people.

    For the last 3 months I have been telling myself to just wait and see what happens in this election and if Biden can win, maybe I can let the Trumpiness keep from splitting us off for good.

  35. 35.

    jonas

    On what fucking basis are people saying “stop the counting” when state laws are clear that legitimate ballots submitted by election day have to be counted? WTF? You can just go and sit down with a big, steaming mug of STFU and let the elections people do what they need to do. Of course in states where Trump is behind they’re all screaming for recounts and counting xeroxed ballots shipped in two days late from Moscow or wherever.

  38. 38.

    Leto

    @WaterGirl: just the overall lawsuits of “stop the voting/counting” disproportionately affect military because we’re largely absentee ballot voters. I know the PA AG and SOS said they were going to make sure all absentee ballots are counted, which included military members.

  39. 39.

    hueyplong

    @guachi: It might be true that a bunch of those “misplaced” USPS ballots were bound for Atlanta.  If so, they’d come in handy.

  40. 40.

    LurkerNoLonger

    @jonas: this is a text my wife sent me:

    Lol I love it. In Detroit they are marching to stop the count and in New York they are marching to demand all votes be counted. What a difference!

  41. 41.

    PsiFighter37

    @John S.: That is incorrect – there were 90k ballots left when it was a 38k margin, so you are probably at 80k outstanding now, if I had to guess. Will be a photo finish no matter what.

  42. 42.

    Splitting Image

    Biden might take Pa and Georgia.

    I’ll take either/or, but a little insurance never hurt.

    Mostly I’m following the four Senate races that are still out now. One Georgia seat is going to a runoff; the other one might, especially if Biden does win the state. Alaska is too hard to tell, but would be a wonderful pickup. North Carolina looks like a near miss.

    I’m confident Biden’s got PA and I’m hopeful for the Senate.

  44. 44.

    Mary G

    @Aleta: Fake news on Latinx FB is a real  problem.

    My housemate fought back sometime this summer when everyone in her massive family and friends network believed that face masks were bad because carbon monoxide builds up in them. Working with her younger sister, first in the family to go to college, and citing me, the Gringo Translator, she convinced maybe a fifth of the clan. Maybe. In practice, out of her sight, probably none.

    Reposting from below because I didn’t see the new thread that showed up while I was writing it:

    Latinx people vary widely. Catholics can be genuine social conservatives; machismo is a biggie, people who’ve been through multiple coups think the devil they know might be safer than the next guy, people who waited 20 years to immigrate legally don’t want others to have it easier, and on and on.

    Trump’s babies in cages and general cruelty were much worse than Obama’s practices, but Obama actually deported quite a few more people and thus for Biden to be trusted he needed to engage more with the communities and make concrete promises beyond DACA that he just didn’t. Democrats have talked a good game for decades, but the last president who actually did something was Ronald Reagan.

    If Biden does open up immigration and gets CBP and ICE in line (I know, a very tall order) he’ll get more Hispanic votes in 2024. One thing he could do that would go a long way would be to order State to take applications to grant more visitor visas once Covid is under better control ASAP.

    My housemate’s mother was denied twice in the last three years; she wanted to come meet a new granddaughter, and see loved ones in person, and had no intention of staying, but she was sneered at by the people in the consulate and accused of being a “mooching criminal.” That leaves a bad taste.

  45. 45.

    guachi

    @PsiFighter37: Well. If it’s 80000 votes Biden has a much harder time, then.

    To @Watergirl – Biden isn’t  getting 60%. He’s been getting 70% for hours. 70% of the last 522,000 votes. He just needs a few more to make up the difference.

  46. 46.

    TaMara (HFG)

    @Tim Posh-looking in a mask: I have a similar situation. I cannot explain their rationale –  just had an interesting FB interaction with a family member – I think they just don’t pay attention to things like his twitter rants and even regular news. She was questioning the validity of the fact that people stormed the vote count in Detroit. Which I assumed was common knowledge.

    The way I handle it, and I’m not saying it’s easy, is to lead by example and to watch my right leaning family and friends’ actions. If they are the people I have known and loved forever, that’s what I have to hang onto. I know for some people, that’s not possible, but that’s where I am at.

    And I have had two people come to me and say they voted for Biden because of Trump’s behavior. They admitted they couldn’t tell their family, but they knew I’d listen to the mental gymnastics that got them to that point. They both voted for Trump in 2016

    I’ll take it.

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    @Leto: I would have thought they would try to come up with some excuse for making an exception military ballots.

    Of course when all your arguments are bullshit, there doesn’t have to be any logic or consistency to them.

  49. 49.

    jonas

    @Tim Posh-looking in a mask: Demagoguery and autocracy are powerful drugs. The ancient Greeks knew it. The Founders knew it. And now you know it. The prospect of “getting things done” without the having to go through the messy back-and-forth of political debate and checks and balances. You know, “politics.” The “swamp.” Of course Trump is the Swamp personified, but he delivers on specific promises like stopping immigration, packing the court with right-wing, pro-life justices, and blowing up the EPA with the scintillating power of his own Fuhrerdom. It’s mighty appealing to a lot of people. I won’t belabor the point by quoting Santayana and all that…

  50. 50.

    Tim Posh-looking in a mask

    @WaterGirl: thank you. I can’t just cut them loose. They would never do that to me. It’s just possible that some things are bigger than Him.

  51. 51.

    JML

    I just bet a friend a beer that Biden is gonna take PA & GA. It’s worth it just to feel the positivity of possibly taking GA.

  52. 52.

    hueyplong

    @WaterGirl: If Biden is doing 60-40 in Atlanta he’s getting crushed in the state.

    The last group of 23k ballots went Biden 18k, Trump 5k

    [I’m taking this off other people’s tweets and presume it’s true]

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    @hueyplong:

    If Biden is doing 60-40 in Atlanta he’s getting crushed in the state.

    It sounds like you are saying that Biden is getting crushed in GA, but are you meaning that Trump is getting crushed in GA?

  56. 56.

    James E Powell

    @Ryan:

    I’m feeling good about PA because everyone else seems so sure. Biden, his campaign people, PA Dems, Nate Cohn. Do we have any PA locals here?

    I want PA because then I don’t have to give a shit about AZ or NV.

    NYT map shows Trump up 34K w/95% counted.  Who knows how many votes are left?

  57. 57.

    guachi

    @WaterGirl: Trump is getting crushed in Atlanta 70-30. If it were 60-40 Georgia would have already been called for Trump.

    Biden is just… just… hitting his margins. And it keeps happening but not so much below it to lose hope or so much above it to put it away.

  58. 58.

    divF

    Re: Georgia. it is 33K difference with .05*5.8M = 290K to go if, the FTFNYT site can be believed. Or maybe it is .04*5.8M = 232K if the percent to go is off by .01. Anyway, not 100K to go.

  60. 60.

    topclimber

    I am going with the local guys to know best that Biden took Arizona.

    That means this posting from the last thread is worth repeating. (Of course it is. I wrote it).

    Meanwhile, with Biden taking Arizona, Nevada becomes the tipping point state.

    Makes one wonder whether some folks in Vegas who placed that bet might be encouraging a slow count.

    If they update tomorrow they are a cinch to beat the other contenders.

     

  62. 62.

    hueyplong

    The problem is that it’s not all Atlanta.

    Down about 30k with 90,735 total votes outstanding

    Fulton 30,862

    Dekalb 6,606

    Chatham 17,157

    But that leaves about 36.1k in other counties, where Biden not likely to run up crazy numbers though he would probably “win” that count if they are by mail due to Trump’s insistence that his minions not leave their votes in the Postmaster General’s clutches.

    Might come up just short, leaving PA as the winning state.

  63. 63.

    jonas

    @hueyplong: No, if Biden is doing 60/40 in Atlanta, he has a chance of squeaking out a statewide victory. The rest of GA outside a couple of other urban areas is redder than a Confederate flag soaked in bbq sauce.

  65. 65.

    Ohio Mom

    Tim Posh-looking:

    It’s a puzzle. Not to get all Goodwin, but Nazi camp staff went home after a hard day’s work, kissed their wives before sitting down to dinner, played with their kids, helped them with their homework, went over to their elderly parents’ house and lent them a hand with the chores now beyond them, and so forth.

    If Nazis aren’t your thing, substitute a high-ranking Mafioso. Or any number of other people spending their days advancing evil ends. Put in that light, your people are amateurs.

    I don’t have an answer for you. I can point out that circumstances and environment shape us, even when we think we are above that. Maybe the larger environment will shift enough that they will shift too.

  66. 66.

    hueyplong

    Now that I see divF’s post, I’m not sure.  If those numbers are right, we’re good.  I took mine off a GA tracker’s tweet.

  71. 71.

    TaMara (HFG)

    @Ohio Mom: 

    Maybe the larger environment will shift enough that they will shift too.

    This. You can’t give up on people. Neo-Nazis have seen the light and left that life and spent their days making amends.

    I worked with two former gang members, now husbands, fathers and decent men. They understood how and why they behaved the way they did when they were younger. They worked hard to help other young men leave that life.

    And some people just go with the flow. It’s not great…but that’s just who they are. I’ve had older people in my life go from ‘gay marriage folks should burn in hell’ to hanging wedding invites on the refrigerator and sending gifts.

  72. 72.

    guachi

    Does anyone know anything about outstanding GA votes by voters who had their ballots rejected because of signature mismatch?

    I only read that it was a thing that could be rectified by Friday and there were 40,000 of those votes. I have no idea if anything has been done about it.

  74. 74.

    Splitting Image

    The most recent news from the New York Times (28 minutes ago) is that Pennsylvania has about 740,000 votes to be counted. This includes 560,000 votes in counties won by HIllary Clinton and 180,000 votes in counties won by Trump.

    Biden is currently down 170,000 votes and needs about 62% of the remainder to win the state. Out of the 1 million absentee ballots counted so far, Biden has won 78% of them.

    Keep calm and carry on folks. Remember that the pustule is sweating this more than we are.

  75. 75.

    Tim Posh-looking in a mask

    @Ohio Mom: I’d like to think that when he’s all over, a fugitive from justice alive and well somewhere in  South America,  we’ll all be sitting around, looking at each other, going, “wtf was all that about?” And maybe start a whole new world. I’d like to think that.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    @guachi: Stacey Abrams is organizing and recruiting people in or near Georgia to go in-person to knock on doors of the people whose ballots need curing.

    There’s training going on and they are trying to mobilize people for the effort.  They think that could maybe be what hopefully brings Perdue down below 50% + 1, which means we could get two runoff elections in Georgia, which might give the senate to the Dems.  Not to mention two excellent senators.

  79. 79.

    NickM

    I checked divF’s numbers and the NYT Georgia report and calculated 240,000 ballots yet to be counted, which means that unless my math is way wrong Biden can close the gap and exceed Trumps’s 33,000 vote margin by running about 57-43 or more, which sounds doable.

  83. 83.

    Cheryl Rofer

    @guachi: “Ballot cure” teams are working the phones to talk to voters who need to rectify problems with their ballots and tell them what they need to do. It’s in a few states – I think North Carolina is another one.

  85. 85.

    jl

    Trumpster protesting to stop vote in Maricopa County, AZ? Where Biden is ahead by almost 3 points?

    Well, what do they think they are doing? Good thing these fascists are so foolish.

    Seriously, if anyone knows what is going on and what the point of it is, let me know.

    Maybe the idea is to stop the counting everywhere in hopes that Trump might eek out a win when the dust settles.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    @Cheryl Rofer: I think it’s really interesting that what Stacey Abrams is recruiting for in GA is people to go in person, rather than phone.  She knows GA peeps, so I’m sure she knows what she’s doing but I thought that was unusual.

  92. 92.

    West of the Cascades

    @WaterGirl: It seems like in-person would allow someone to walk a voter through the process (and they can cure by email or fax). From the Georgia Democrats website (https://www.georgiademocrat.org/curing-your-vote-by-mail-ballot/) —

    Did you receive notification from your county that your vote by mail ballot would not count unless you take follow-up action?

    Send a copy of the following documents to your county registrar by email or fax, or, present the original in person:

    1. You MUST send one of the following:  a GA driver’s license; valid government, military or tribal photo ID; or a utility bill, bank statement, paycheck or government document that shows the voter’s name and current address.
    2. You MAY need to send the following: if the county informed you the signature on your ballot did not match or was missing, also submit a signed copy of this form, swearing that you are eligible to vote and voted by mail.

    Complete follow-up by 5 pm on [three days after Election Day] for your ballot to count.

    Questions: Call the Democratic Party of Georgia Voter Protection Hotline at 888-730-5816.

  93. 93.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Wasserman’s followers pestering him to say “I’ve seen enough…” about PA

    Dave Wasserman @Redistrict 26m
    No, I’m not going to “say it.” There is no need for anyone to be first in this situation.

    he sounds like Twitter Nixon

  94. 94.

    guachi

    Fulton Co. plans on counting all of its ballots tonight. That’s probably why Biden has been at 70% so consistently. I think the professional vote guys will be able to determine what’s likely once that number hits zero.

  96. 96.

    WaterGirl

    @West of the Cascades: Yeah, I think Stacey Abrams isn’t messing around.  It’s unusual, but in a good way because there’s only Thursday and Friday to do this.

    I’m planning on putting up a post in the morning in case there are people on BJ who might live close enough that they can go, and also I imagine they need funds!

  98. 98.

    guachi

    @WaterGirl: I live in Augusta, GA. I’m in the military so I’m not sure I can legally do this.

    Is it partisan or not?

    Fulton Co. is GA. Atlanta is partly in Fulton Co. Elections teach you county names.

  99. 99.

    SFAW

    According to the Inquirer website, as of 10:54, Shitgibbon was up by about 165,000. Also according to their site, there are about 852K votes (mail-in, I believe) to be counted. [ETA: The 852K figure is my own calc, not Inky’s printed number. I based it on number of votes counted, then extrapolated from their 88 percent figure to get the 852K left to go.]

    Biden’s been running at a rate of about 77 percent of the mail-ins. If we cut that to 70 percent for the remainder, that gives him about 597K votes to be banked for him, vs. about 256K for the Fascist-in-Chief, yielding a differential of around plus-340K for Biden. If he gains 340K, subtracting the 165K he’s currently trailing by, yields a final total of plus-175K for Biden.

    I used to be pretty good at maths, but my braims ain’t what they used to be, so someone might need to double-check my calcs. But if I’m right, then PA goes for Joe, bigly.

    [Note: According to my calcs, if joe gets 65 percent, he still comes out 90K ahead. If he gets only 60 percent, THEN it gets really close, around a 5000 vote lead for Joe.

    ETA: If the 77 percent holds, he’ll be up by ~300K, Again, caveat lector.

  100. 100.

    WaterGirl

    @guachi: My personal opinion is that it is not.  Unless her organization is only helping to cure ballots for Dems, which might well be the case.  Hang on for a minute and i’ll put the tweet in that tells you who to call, etc.

  102. 102.

    hueyplong

    @SFAW: That parallels the thinking from earlier today.

    Good.  They’re apparently still on track.

    That would explain Trump’s malaise.

  103. 103.

    Cheryl Rofer

    @WaterGirl: Different groups are doing different things. It’s great that Abrams is recruiting people to work in person, but I know of groups here in New Mexico and in the DC area that are doing this and, of course, can do it only by phone.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @SFAW:

    According to the Inquirer website, as of 10:54, Shitgibbon was up by about 165,000. Also according to their site, there are about 852K votes (mail-in, I believe) to be counted.

    I thought I heard the MSNBC reporter in PA say there were that many votes out, but then I thought I must’ve misheard. She also said that Bob Casey is predicting Biden takes the state by 100K votes

  105. 105.

    WaterGirl

    @SFAW: My quick & dirty math is this:

    If it’s Biden 70% to Trump 30%, then subtract 30 from 70 and Biden nets 40%.

    Then I multiple 40% to the number of ballots that are left, and that number needs to be significantly higher than whatever amount Trump is ahead by.  Because we don’t want to be anywhere near recount territory.

  106. 106.

    WaterGirl

    @Cheryl Rofer: Yeah, my first thought was phone, so I did a double-take when I saw what she was doing.  It may well take less time in person if you’re talking to someone who is being asked to do something that is not familiar, including using a fax or whatever.

  107. 107.

    Leto

    @guachi: as long as you’re not in uniform, and not actively saying, “The US military/Navy is here supporting this!” You should be fine.

  108. 108.

    SFAW

    @WaterGirl:

    If it’s Biden 70% to Trump 30%, then subtract 30 from 70 and Biden nets 40%.

    Yes. Sometimes I do the quick way, and sometimes my old-fart-ness forgets how to do that. But your way gives the same result as mine. As an FYI: Shitgibbon’s lead is currently about 19-plus percent of the (assumed) remaining ballots. That means Joe needs to do better than 60/40 for raw numbers, but more like 64/36 to avoid a recount (assuming a one percent threshold for triggering a recount).

  109. 109.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Dave Wasserman @Redistrict 12m
    Although the “Whole Foods revolt” against Trump wasn’t as dramatic as we might have expected, it comes through for Biden in Chester Co., PA. Biden now ahead in Chester by 16.5 points w/ 305k ballots counted – way more than enough. Clinton won it by 9.4 points w/ 270k cast

    I want Biden to run the table, but I’ll take PA. Sounds like tomorrow is the day

  110. 110.

    NoraLenderbee

    Not counting on it, but it would be so awesome to win Georgia. The frickin Confederacy pwned by Black voters. Ooh yeah.

  111. 111.

    NotMax

    @SFAW

    Pennsylvania Attorney General said 800-something thousand remain outstanding on air around 10:30 Pennsy time tonight.

  112. 112.

    SFAW

    @Leto:

    “The US military/Navy is here supporting this!”

    Hmm. I knew you junior birdmen hated the Navy, but to separate them out from the “US military” — that’s cold.

    Yes, I’m kidding. I couldn’t resist cracking them over that line.

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    @NotMax:

    Pennsylvania Attorney General said 800-something thousand remain outstanding on air around 10:30 Pennsy time tonight.

    At 2:00 AM EST tomorrow, after a two-hour chat with America’s Chief Law Enforcement Office, a/k/a Traitor Shill Barr, the PA AG will issue a retraction/correction, noting that “all votes that are going to be counted have now been counted.”

  115. 115.

    Another Scott

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin (and the presidency) by a combined 77,744 votes in 2016.

    At this rate, Biden is on track to finish ahead by more than that in each of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    — Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 5, 2020

    Good, good.

    Agreed that Thursday seems to be the day.

    ‘night all. Rest easy.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  116. 116.

    James E Powell

    @WaterGirl:

    I do the same thing & round the numbers so I can do it in my head.

    62- 38 = 24, which I change to 25% of 850K, which I change to 800K, which gives me 200K votes and Joe wins. So he needs 62% of the incoming.

  117. 117.

    frosty

    @SFAW: Thanks for this. I’ve been doing the same calcs using the Inky data and figured if he got 60% he’d win. I think Philly was 63% D so that’s the number I used.

    I seem to have lost the ability to do algebra in my head. This should be a simple equation but I don’t feel like getting a pencil and paper out.

    ETA: And I see WaterGirl came up with an easy solution. You go WG!!

  121. 121.

    SFAW

    @guachi:

    Another 4700 votes in GA nets Biden 2800. Trump lead down to 28,500 (according to AP).

    That’s about a 60 percent rate for Joe. If that rate continues for all the remaining precincts, I think Biden comes out on top by ~20K for the state.

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    SFAW

    @Leto:

    hey, much love for the Marine taxi service :p

    Thanks for the laugh. [Couldn’t laugh too loud, everyone else is asleep.]

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    Mai Naem mobile

    @jl: dumbasses think the county recorder building people turned on the lawn sprinklers on them on purpose. Dumbasses are the same idiots that turn on their damn sprinklers on in the middle of the day and lose half the water to evaporation. This is a major pet peeve of mine. You shouldn’t even have grass in the desert but,damn it, if you are don’t waste precious water on your lawn when the water is going to evaporate.

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    SFAW

    @NotMax:

    “As I didn’t have the exact number at hand, rounded up to the nearest 800,000.”

    And that one is probably the most plausible line Barr offered him.

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    Jean

    @SFAW: I don’t understand what you’re saying below the blocked quotation.  Is it that PA Attorney General is not going to count all the outstanding votes, or that all counting will be done by 2:00 a.m.?  OR that counting will just stop and that’s that.  Or are you joking?

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    CatFacts

    For whatever it’s worth, a couple of election data crunchers on Twitter (Drew Savicki and Brendan Keefe) seem to be saying that Biden is meeting his benchmarks in Georgia so far. I guess we’ll see.

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    guachi

    @SFAW: The net was the net gain, not how many votes he got.

    It was 3760 for Biden and 975 for Trump. Biden got 79.4% of that vote dump. It was a really good chunk for Biden.

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    NotMax

    All the various if…then microscopic gaming out and speculation preceding every drib and succeeding each drab of numbers released is nervous foot-tapping, some of which is headed hellbent for leather into how many angels can dance on the head of a pin territory.

    Personally am scrolling past and paying it next to no attention. We’ll know what we know when we know it.

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    SFAW

    @Jean:

    It was a joke. Or an attempt at one. I figure that, at this point, Shitgibbon is so desperate to stop the PA count, he’ll send Tom Hagen Barr to “explain how the world works” to the PA AG. As in “We know where your kids go to school. Do I need to draw youse a picture?”

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @HumboldtBlue: It’s quite possible the Team Biden hid them in Hillary’s emails! And in a major plot twist Fox News Helped them!

    Et tu Fox? Et to Fox?

  136. 136.

    James E Powell

    So I figure I will wait up till the next AZ drop then go to bed to sleep or to toss & turn, depending.

  138. 138.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    well, how about that…

    Scott Walker@ScottWalker · 13h

    If it holds, @LPNational candidate got 38,000 votes in Wisconsin and margin between @JoeBiden and @realDonaldTrump is less than 21,000 votes. #Elections2020

  139. 139.

    Danielx

    After two days, total exhaustion and constant undertone of “fuck those guys” in the back of my head at all times.

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    HumboldtBlue

    Sarah Cooper’s Netflix sow is a great to divert your attention away from the drama.

    Hilarious.

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    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @hueyplong: Yes, Steve Kornacki has been making the point that mail ballots even from red counties are much more likely to be Biden votes, since the Trumpists generally avoided sending in votes by USPS.

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    Noskilz

    Something that was making the rounds a few years ago seems only more true: “in 2017, we’ll know who everyone is” and  2020 seems determined to emphasize the deficiencies that were revealed then.

    While it’s been a bit sad in recent years to discover what trash some of my old acquaintances are, there is something to be said for knowing who is and isn’t worth one’s time.

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    Death Panel Truck

    I guess no one’s told protesters that if you’re trying to win an election and you’re behind, it’s not a good idea to stop counting. Jesus, these fucking dolts…

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    Pittsburgh Mike

    @jl: Doesn’t make a lot of sense.  If you stop counting now, Biden wins AZ and NV, and it’s game over.

     

    FWIW, I think Biden’s surest path is counting all ballots in PA.  AZ’s missing ballots are a mystery, since AZ counted early ballots already.  GA is looking very tight.  But PA is counting mail-in ballots that are heavily Democratic, and most of the remaining ones are coming from PHL and PIT, and of those, mostly PHL.

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