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Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

“Facilitate” is an active verb, not a weasel word.

I’m starting to think Jesus may have made a mistake saving people with no questions asked.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

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It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

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Our own Soonergrunt had some sort of medical event this morning, possibly cardiac, and is in the hospital. According to his twitter feed he is in good hands and they are figuring out what if anything happened, and we’ll no more when he charges his phone and gets his tests done.

Just thought you all would want to know.

Fuck Donald Trump.

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  5. 5.

    ArchTeryx

    What?!  I was seeing him post on Twitter this morning and completely missed that he’d had a medical emergency. :<  I hope that he pulls through okay!

  7. 7.

    tokyokie

    Hang in there, fellow Okie! And you don’t have to worry about the Sooners’ game this weekend stressing your heart further; we’re playing Kansas.

  8. 8.

    The Very Reverend Crimson Fire of Compassion

    Big, big positive energy for SG.  One of my all time favorite people that I haven’t met yet.  We’re pulling for you, homes!

  13. 13.

    MobiusKlein

    I had my Cardiac 2020 events too, and was a reminder of all the fabulous folks from all over the country and world working hard to help other humans.

    Having a nurse at 3 am to comfort me and my resting 150 pulse was a godsend.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Funny, not in a ha-ha way: I’ve been away from BJ for a while and literally just a minute ago thought to myself that I’d check in and see if there were any update of Soonergrunt’s condition. Have been thinking about him since very early morning and hope he’s aware of the good political news, which will surely help him get better!

  21. 21.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    I really hope this turns out to be something minor. This year needs to get better

  23. 23.

    Damned_at_Random

    Wow, SG. I thought I was stressed over the vote count. Best wishes and mind your nurses

  24. 24.

    Splitting Image

    Hopefully it was nothing too serious. I enjoyed his posts and would be happy to see him around these parts more often.

    Donald who? Was he that jerk who used to be the biggest troll on Twitter? Boy did that get old quick.

  25. 25.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    Suspected cardiac event, AND in the hospital, is actually pretty good news, for those who don’t know. I mean, heart issues are *always* scary, there are fast, deadly, cardiac events, but there’s a lot that can be done, quickly, and easily, to move a lot of cardiac patients out of the woods, like putting in a stent, or starting blood thinners to bust clots.

    Best wishes, Soonergrunt; get well soon.

  26. 26.

    Yutsano

    He hasn’t answered my tweet yet, so he’s probably still in phone charge mode.

    Or hopefully getting some rest.

  29. 29.

    opiejeanne

    soonergrunt

    Update:

    @soonergrunt

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    19s

    Dx “very mild heart attack” I’m stable, more or less comfortable. Will go home tomorrow. Follow up at VA, which I’ll set up tomorrow.

  30. 30.

    different-church-lady

    C’mon Sooner, we want you to see the trash taken out with the rest of us! Get well soon!

  32. 32.

    PenAndKey

    I was actually on Twitter when he started complaining about pain in his chest and tasting copper and thinking it might be anxiety. I’ve experienced more than my share of cardiovascular events in the family so that immediately triggered my concern and I added to the pile on of contacts telling him he needed to see a doctor asap. It all happened almost exactly as the GA numbers were coming in so anxiety was a possibility but that’s really not something you want to risk. I’ve been low-key worrying about it all day and I’ve never even bloody met any of you in person, sheesh.

    According to his latest reply 6m ago it was a “very mild heart attack”. JFC, talk about a close call. Just a reminder folks: if it matches a potential heart attack, treat it as one until told otherwise by a doctor.

  33. 33.

    Jean

    Glad to read that it was mild and he will be going home tomorrow.  Good that he was able to get attention fast and be able to take the necessary steps from there toward a healthy heart.  My mom had a mild heart attack when she was 80.  She’s now 95. Never had another occurrence .

  34. 34.

    LuciaMia

    At the hospital, if they asked him that orientating question, “Who’s president of the United States?” at least he could now smile!

    Get well Fast!

  38. 38.

    JPL

    Sooner, Thank you for sending us updates.    I doubt that any heart attack is mild, but it was warning signal to take care of yourself.

  40. 40.

    Cermet

    Very glad he’ll be home tomorrow; by then, PA will (I HOPE!) be called and Biden will be declared President Elect.

  41. 41.

    PenAndKey

    @LuciaMia: At the hospital, if they asked him that orientating question, “Who’s president of the United States?” at least he could now smile!

    That’s a damn good point.

  43. 43.

    cain

    @PenAndKey:

    I’ve been using meditation to help calm myself and keep me centered. It’s very simple – just focus on your breath for about 10 minutes and let go. You’ll be fine.

  44. 44.

    Roger Moore

    @PenAndKey:

    According to his latest reply 6m ago it was a “very mild heart attack”. JFC, talk about a close call. Just a reminder folks: if it matches a potential heart attack, treat it as one until told otherwise by a doctor.

    Absolutely this.  A member of my extended family recently had something similar.  He went to work despite his symptoms, and his boss told him to get to the hospital ASAP.  It turned out to be a mild heart attack.  The put in a stent, and he was out of the hospital by the end of the day.

  46. 46.

    TomatoQueen

    Sorry this has happened and glad to know the internet advice machine was right. Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery.

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    Elizabelle

    Wishing soonergrunt the best.  Sometimes a “mild” event can set one up for better monitoring, more targeted care, and no further cardiac events.

    Be healthy and home soonest.

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    Am assuming “very mild heart attack” is nothing like being a little bit pregnant.

    Get the hell outta there and on the mend, pronto!

  54. 54.

    Amir Khalid

    Glad soonergrunt is okay. I know every jackal is sending good thoughts to him. He’ll be celebrating on 20th January with the rest of us.

  56. 56.

    Yutsano

    Yeah he’s back to being slightly cranky. He’ll be good. Overnight observation is totally normal in these situations.

    EDIT: may have taken the opportunity to throw him a minor jibe on Twitter…

  57. 57.

    Mary G

    My grandmother had her first heart attack in 1957. She had several more “episodes,” but she lived her usual life until she died in 1988 aged 93.

  61. 61.

    Jim Appleton

    @LongHairedWeirdo:

    I’ve restarted two hearts in cardiac arrest, in very rural locations.

    The outcomes are getting better for the sudden stuff.

    Seattle has an amazing rate of complete recoveries from CA.  The joke is, don’t take a nap in public there — you’ll wake up with a cracked sternum and a hoard of strangers in pit stop efficiency.

  66. 66.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @trollhattan: A “mild” heart attack probably means there’s some damage to the heart muscle, but not enough that it was on a course to kill you *today*. Thing is, if you don’t get the problem fixed, you can keep accumulating damage to the heart, until there’s just too much damage (and/or scar tissue, I think).

    Plus, if your heart isn’t functioning well, you will feel like *total* crap. Lots of people who’ve been feeling crappy for months or years get a stent and realize “holy crap, it’s like night and day!”

    Heart issues should never be ignored for both of those reasons. Still, that’s also why I was cautiously optimistic above. With issues involving the heart, knowledge is power, and denial or wishful thinking are the most deadly of enemies.

  67. 67.

    Oklahomo

    Oh no!  Get well so you and laugh and point when Biden/Harris get to announce that their inaugural crowd was 17,000 times larger than the God-Emperor of Derp’s.

  68. 68.

    raven

    @Jim Appleton:  My next door neighbor died from CA last winter. My tenant was a volunteer fireman and when they brought him out while they pounded on his chest he said, nope. He was right.

  69. 69.

    raven

    53 minutes ago

     

    “Dx “very mild heart attack” I’m stable, more or less comfortable. Will go home tomorrow. Follow up at VA, which I’ll set up tomorrow.”

  71. 71.

    randy khan

    Get well soon, and do what the specialists tell you to do.  I have a friend who had a mild heart attack at the gym(!) last year and followed the advice he was given rigorously.  Now his docs say he’s basically good as new.

  76. 76.

    Soonergrunt

    So, I’ve had a whole bunch of different stressors in my life the last couple of years. My agency has redone its IT twice. We’ve had problems with management breaking the law with respect to performance evaluations and other issues. I’ve been trying to unionize the workforce, and it’s been slow going but we’ve been making progress. Honestly, Donald Trump and his political appointees are the best recruiters for civil service unions you could ask for.

    That and living with Corona, and the modifications we’ve all had to make, I haven’t been taking as good care of myself as I should and then watching all the recent stuff happen. So I got to the hospital right about the time they announced on MSNBC on Sirius XM that Georgia had flipped and Biden had about $900 lead and I briefly thought about going home but the sudden much worse sharp pain in my shoulder put an end to that thought.

    No MSNBC in the hospital, but there is CNN and I’ve been able to keep up with everything happening. Talked to hospitalist, and dietitian, And we’ll talk to a cardiologist probably next week. Have to make some radical changes in my life including more exercise and reducing the levels of stress so I’m going to have to hand off the union organizing to one of my buddies. I can’t emphasize enough just how bad the Trump administration has been for the morale of the federal workforce.

    I’m not going anywhere though. I’ll be goddamned if I check out before that son of a bitch leaves the White House.

  77. 77.

    debbie

    Sending good thoughts for a full and speedy recovery. This will pass, just as the Scourge of Trump will.

  80. 80.

    Elizabelle

    @Soonergrunt:   Leaves the White House?

    Hold out until he is perp walked, indicted, prosecuted, convicted, orange jumpsuited, and Phil Specter in jail mug shotted.  Bankrupted.

    And then … the Trumplings:  the Traitor Tots.  The administration.  The co-criminals.  The bag men.  The tax dodgers. (Hello, Robert Mercer.)

  83. 83.

    Miki

    Yikes. Glad it was mild. Glad you’re getting the treatment you need. Glad you’re going to the VA – good care there for so many of us.

    Sending thoughts and thoughts.

  85. 85.

    leeleeFL

    So glad to hear that SoonerGrunt will be headed home tomorrow. Take good care of yourself, SG!  You are loved and needed greatly!

  86. 86.

    The Moar You Know

    Absolutely this.  A member of my extended family recently had something similar.  He went to work despite his symptoms, and his boss told him to get to the hospital ASAP. 

    @Roger Moore: Third this.  A drummer I work with just happened to mention to his buddy, as they were going home from a day of landscaping, that two fingers in his left hand “fell asleep”.

    Buddy had survived a heart attack and made him drive directly to the ER and that saved his life.  All five coronary arteries 99%+ blocked.   Emergency bypass.  Eight weeks later he was playing drums again.

    He would have died that night otherwise.

  89. 89.

    feebog

    @Soonergrunt:

    Life lesson there, your health takes priority over everything else, cause if you go tits up, everything else goes with it.  Make the changes you need to make, stick with them and stick around these parts.

  90. 90.

    J R in WV

    @Soonergrunt:

    Glad to hear from you, brother. Take care, and don’t be such a stranger. Some of us don’t use twitter, ya know…

    And follow the medic’s orders for rehab and all.

    ETA: A relief you’re doing better! Scary for everyone.

  91. 91.

    Ruckus

    Sooner,

    Take care of yourself, and I hope your VA clinic/hospital is as good as mine. Have had a mild one myself and cardio was and is great.

  93. 93.

    H.E.Wolf

    @Soonergrunt: Good news, all of it, including the delegating of some of your tasks. Healthwise, may you “build back better”. :)

    And please don’t go anywhere *after* the inauguration, either.

  95. 95.

    tokyokie

    @Roger Moore: We claim anybody who shows an affiliation to the state. Carl Hubbell? Born and raised in Oklahoma and is buried there, even though he retired to Arizona. So we claim him. Warren Spahn? Came from Buffalo but moved to Oklahoma when he was pitching for Milwaukee, and lived the rest of his life and is buried in Oklahoma. So we claim him, too. Willie Stargell? Born in Oklahoma, so we claim him even though he considered North Carolina his home. Soonergrunt’s handle is more than enough to clear that low bar.

     

    And remember, a “mild heart attack” is one that happens to somebody else. Take care of yourself, SG, and do as the doctors and nurses say you should do.

  96. 96.

    CaseyL

    @Soonergrunt: Thanks for the update!

    My god, you’ve been carrying a lot on your shoulders.  It’s good you could hand some of it off to a friend.  Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery!

  97. 97.

    James E Powell

    Every hour or so my mind drifts off the vote counts and reflects upon the historic moment that Kamala Harris represents for our nation. And I think about watching that video of Joe Biden calling the senator who gave him a hard time in the debates and saying “Are you ready to go to work?”

    We are the good guys.

  98. 98.

    Aleta

    @Soonergrunt: Very glad to learn you’re OK.  Very glad.

    It’s probably good for lots of us to read about the signs today and what you say about stress. We think we know but …  knowing isn’t the same as acting on signs.

    Anyway, thank you and I’m so happy you’re OK.

  99. 99.

    Mary G

    @Soonergrunt: Glad you’re feeling well enough to blog! I cannot even imagine working under Twitler and his proudly ignorant low grade hires. The end is in sight!

  101. 101.

    laura

    @Soonergrunt: best wishes for a speedy recovery and I really hope that your workplace organizes and unionized. UAW has a great Technical Unit – I was a proud Member and hopefully your colleague can reach out for assistance.

    Get Well Sooner ❣

  102. 102.

    cain

    @Soonergrunt:

    So glad to hear from you – and glad you’re doing okay and working on making some positive changes in your life. Thanks for updating the BJ family on your health.

  103. 103.

    Morzer

    You keep fighting, Sooner. We need you on deck to lead the enjoyment of Trump’s utter  public humiliation.

     

    Noting that “we’ll no more” is somehow the most Cole utterance ever!

  109. 109.

    Sebastian

    Three days of fuck-me-straight-in-the-membrane-election after eating five or six day old tacos might have something to do with his current condition lol

    Sooner! Put down the phone and slowly enjoy a drink savoring the moment (unless the doctor forbad it!)

  113. 113.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    Get well soon, SG! There’s a lot of Trump slagging to be done here, and we want to hear from you.

  114. 114.

    trnc

    @Soonergrunt: No MSNBC in the hospital, but there is CNN and I’ve been able to keep up with everything happening.

    Glad you’re doing ok. Sorry you have to watch Santorum. I’ve been waiting for Van Jones to walk over and coldcock him.

    I’m sorry you have to put up with all the stress. It sure would be nice if all your hard work could allow you to breathe a little easier knowing your doing the right thing, but I guess that’s not how it works when you’re vested in something. Anyway, thanks for what you’re doing to make the world a better place.

  116. 116.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Elizabelle: Mercer’s been tossing money down a rat hole in Oregon; Peter DeFazio was reelected to Congress yet again on Tuesday, despite Mercer’s millions being thrown against him.

  119. 119.

    Yutsano

    @trnc:

    Sorry you have to watch Santorum. I’ve been waiting for Van Jones to walk over and coldcock him.

    Van is quite the athletic man. I’m pretty sure he could make up that 6+ feet of separation between them quicker than Ol’ Frothy could slime away. But we would need clips of that. All. The. Clips.

  122. 122.

    Other MJS

    My late MIL was once in the hospital for something and refused to acknowledge GWB as president when asked. Caused a bit of confusion.

  124. 124.

    frosty

    @Soonergrunt: Good to see you, get well and take care if yourself. I remember you from my dKos days, looking forward to hearing from you for many more years.

  125. 125.

    Mike in NC

    I had a doctor’s appointment yesterday. He handed me the lab results, at the bottom of which he hand-wrote “Completely Normal”. I showed it to my wife, who said that couldn’t possibly be true.

  126. 126.

    EmanG

    @soonergrunt – remember, it’s “sooner” not “late” grunt! Sending you healing energies and sincere wishes for a quick and full recovery!

  127. 127.

    (((CassandraLeo)))

    @Soonergrunt: I’m glad to hear you’re recovering. I was extremely worried when I heard the news. Take care of yourself.

    Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.

  128. 128.

    J R in WV

    Our family doc has a little lab in his office suite, so the blood draw is analyzed right there. But some tests take longer than others, so we usually get a phone call a week or so later on to inform us that we’re completely normal. Not perfectly, just completely. Don’t know if there’s a big difference there or not.

    It is good to have been seeing the same doctor for pushing 40 years now. He knows us both pretty well. Also, we know him, totally eccentric guy. Goofy, but a really good doctor.

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