Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

In my day, never was longer.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

The next time the wall wtreet journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Infrastructure week. at last.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

Not all heroes wear capes.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

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It’s all fun when you think your side is WINNING and you’re leading the parade. It’s *not* so fun when Dear Leader is sobbing in his bunker, and also the cops facing you down don’t seem to be taking it in that good white-nationalist ‘patriotic’ spirit…

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  2. 2.

    Death Panel Truck

    It’s *not* so fun when Dear Leader is sobbing in his bunker

    And Biden’s troops are 1,000 yards away and closing fast.

  4. 4.

    Curtis

    Finally a new political thread, thanks Anne Laurie. Do we have any sense if any other votes are going to be released tonight? Some people were saying Clayton County was going to come in for GA around midnight.

  8. 8.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    “Do you think we’re stupid? Do you think we’re fools?” —Rudy Giuliani in Philadelphia, discussing the PA vote.

    we also think you’re a wet-brained, pants-pissing lush who should leave his carcass to science to determine if twenty-five years of viagra used in excess of recommended dosages can cause accelerated dementia
    and we want to see the books and client records of Giuliani Associates.

  11. 11.

    Sebastian

    Insurrections are hard work and require the insurgents to eat bark and sleep in caves and whatnot.

    The Tacticool prepper assholes started crying after 3 days because they couldn’t get a hair cut. It was always just show.

  13. 13.

    patroclus

    Current margins:  Ga. – 1775; Pa. – 22,389; Nevada – 11,438 (for Biden); Zona – 47,052 (for Biden); Alaska – 57,128; North Carolina – 76,701.

  14. 14.

    sdhays

    Georgia update:

    Trump’s lead down to 1,479

    Clayton trickling in

    249 Biden

    19 Trump

    Net gain of 230 for Biden

  16. 16.

    Felanius Kootea

    Read something on Twitter about Fulton County, Georgia election workers dealing with a COVID-19 outbreak in the election warehouse.  Don’t know whether or not this is true, but I hope not.

  19. 19.

    Kent

    “Do you think we’re stupid? Do you think we’re fools?” —Rudy Giuliani in Philadelphia, discussing the PA vote. #Election2020

    The really difficult thing in 20 years will be explaining to our grandchildren how we were ever ruled by these morons.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    Mooks Brothers Riot.

    The wahoos and yahoos have finally made me understand why Bud Lite is so popular.

  21. 21.

    Kent

    Looks like there was another small drop in Arizona this hour that favored Biden and brought him back up over 47,000.

  23. 23.

    HumboldtBlue

    Can someone explain to me why I have to pay an insurance agent $200-plus every month for supposed health care just to be told I bought an $8,000 deductible,

  25. 25.

    Quinerly

    @sdhays: I think some more will be in tonight. Clayton Co being counted as I type this. Most Dem County in GA per this local journalist on my TV.

  33. 33.

    Quinerly

    @Kent: I realize how most of us want this to end and want Biden declared.

    I’m enjoying this death by a 1000 cuts to Trump. We all know pretty much how the count is going to end. I know Trump is watching all of this, bellowing, making demands (has anyone seen Barr?)… All those good post Covid drugs have worn off… Who knows what will happen? He’s not the physical speciman he and Steven Miller see when they gaze in the mirror together. ?

  34. 34.

    HumboldtBlue

    What happens to my health when I go to see a doctor only to be told that after paying into a once mandated system over the course of a decade I still owe thousands of dollars for going to the doctor?

    Where the fuck did my money go?

    How is this a win for me?

    We read front page post after front page post about health care and actuarial tables and percentages and opting-in and opting-out.

    In 10 years I have still not gotten a straight answer about how I pay $200-plus dollars per month for a service that then charges me thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket-expenses to access it.

  36. 36.

    jl

    Trump couldn’t help but yell the plans publicly since forever, so local officials knew to prepare.

    One thing that bugs me is why the national Trump campaign got a court order to be able to enter processing centers and observe the count. Why? Aren’t there teams of local bipartisan observers already there, observing away? Why not tell Trump campaign (or Biden campaign for that matter) people to get lost, the normal process is being followed?

    Anyone here know? The national campaigns can go get their asses lost, right?

  40. 40.

    Viva BrisVegas

    If the Republicans are looking for stolen votes, it looks like there are plenty that have been deliberately left behind in USPS sorting centers by Trump’s personal Postmaster General, Louis DeJoy.

    Probably not many Trump votes though.

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    @jl: One thing that bugs me is why the national Trump campaign got a court order to be able to enter processing centers and observe the count. Why? Aren’t there teams local bipartisan observers already there, observing away? Why not tell Trump campaign (or Biden campaign for that matter) people to get lost, the normal process is being followed?

    Because they’re fascist, power-hungry shitpiles?

  50. 50.

    jl

    @mrmoshpotato: But why didn’t the court tell them to get lost? I don’t see how either national campaign has any business snooping into the local election process. That is the local observers’ job. Especially if there is jack squat evidence of anything fishy?

  51. 51.

    Chetan Murthy

    @HumboldtBlue: [Full disclosure: I am not David Anderson, nor even Richard Mayhew *Grin*]  I don’t know if you really wanna hear this, but …. the American healthcare sector is about 10% of the economy.  So it’s a reasonable guess, that each of us must pay about 10% of our income in insurance and out-of-pocket payments.  That’s a lot of money, and I’m not going to defend it: other advanced countries provide better outcomes for less money expended.  We have a lot of deadweight loss in our healthcare system, starting with armies of dueling administrators and bureaucrats.

    Is your health insurance an Obamacare-compliant plan?  I’m surprised that you could have an $8k deductible for such a plan: I thought they were all much lower.

  53. 53.

    jl

    @mrmoshpotato: Maybe some BJ lawyer will come along and explain it.

    Edit: been over a dozen comments since my query and I get nada. I thought this was a full service blog. I’m sending an all caps demand email to Cole.

  54. 54.

    Kent

    @jl:@mrmoshpotato: But why didn’t the court tell them to get lost? I don’t see how either national campaign has any business snooping into the local election process. That is the local observers’ job. Especially if there is jack squat evidence of anything fishy?

    Republican friendly judge decided to give the Trump campaign a harmless win is my guess.

  55. 55.

    jl

    @Kent: But I think there is a danger of giving national campaigns a pretext to make trouble out of nothing. If I were a sane (aka non-MAGA) local person, especially a local official of any kind, I would resent it.

  56. 56.

    Kent

    @jl:@Kent: But I think there is a danger of giving national campaigns a pretext to make trouble out of nothing. If I were a sane (aka non-MAGA) local person, especially a local official of any kind, I would resent it.

    Not saying I agree with it.  I’m just tossing out a likely reason.

    I’m sure they’ll have to stay 6 ft. away from any election worker and will be tossed out on their asses by local sheriffs if they disrupt the count in any way.  Shrug.

  57. 57.

    HumboldtBlue

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Just asking for a friend.

    I live in California and have options.

    But you weren’t very convincing despite not being David Anderson (who scares me)

  58. 58.

    patroclus

    Total national vote at roughly 143,000,000 already with tons to count.  I think we will surpass 160 million.  And with a 4+ million lead for Biden, it really has been a blue wave.

  59. 59.

    Redshift

    Kind of heartbreaking twitter thread about the shenanigans in Detroit, from a good-hearted observer.

    I was at the TCF Center in Detroit yesterday as a non-partisan poll challenger. The woman in the maroon shirt with the black mask was one of the GOP challengers I monitored. At one point, she yelled that a ballot needed to be thrown out because it “looked sticky.” Another time https://t.co/1MTeZT2lxK
    — Julie Moroney (@juliecmoroney) November 6, 2020

  60. 60.

    James E Powell

    @sdhays:

    He’s not just some local reporter, he’s Chief Investigator at Atlanta’s WXIA 11Alive (TEGNA – NBC). Honored with the Peabody, duPont, five National Murrows, and 105 Emmy awards.

    I could not help but think if Les Nessman.

  62. 62.

    Martin

    Interesting development. Today the Trump campaign sent out a mailer to their PA list asking them to turn in their absentee ballot ASAP.

    Now, there’s no way these could count because they won’t be postmarked by election day.

    So either they are eyeing a legal strategy to extend counting and hope they can get enough votes in to make up the gap (never gonna happen), or, lacking for voter fraud, they’re asking their own voters to commit fraud so they can use that as an argument to throw out the mail-in ballots.

    At a minimum, it’s a blatant attempt at voter fraud. The emails have been verified as authentic. They went out just before he spoke today.

  63. 63.

    Martin

    Hearing that the GA SOS website isn’t working correctly, so those votes we were waiting on may have been posted and nobody is awake to feed the squirrel.

  65. 65.

    James E Powell

    @jl:

    One thing that bugs me is why the national Trump campaign got a court order to be able to enter processing centers and observe the count.

    I am a lawyer, but I haven’t seen the court order you are referring to. I did read about one where the court denied the request to stop counting and the parties agreed to let more people in to observe.

    I am guessing that the “we need more observers” argument was a pretext to try to get the counting stopped – even if for only a while – to get headlines COURT ORDERS COUNTING STOPPED! and cause mass hysteria. I am also guessing the state/county officials said, look, we can let X more people in, but we need them to keep out of our way. So the court said, great, you worked it out. Bye now.

  66. 66.

    Martin

    @patroclus: There’s 4.5M uncounted ballots in CA (and we will accept mail-in postmarked by election day for another 10 days) and they’re breaking 2:1 for Biden, so his vote advantage should grow by 1.5M just out of CA.

  68. 68.

    Martin

    @James E Powell: I think it’s a bit more nefarious than that. It’s clearly a stalling tactic, but if you pair it up with the call for PA GOPs to submit their mail in ballots NOW, I think they’re buying time to fabricate a voter fraud claim by burning their own voters.

  69. 69.

    patroclus

    Only Philly still counting tonight in Pa.  There’s still 54,000 votes there and they’re painstakingly going through them with updates every 2 hours or so.  The state is going to flip, but probably early tomorrow morning.  I’m still going to wait for Georgia though before I go to bed.  I was hoping (and indeed expected) it to be decided “today,” but I think Friday will be the day instead.

  70. 70.

    Martin

    @Quinerly: I think it’s the latter too. Lacking any evidence of voter fraud, they will commit voter fraud and poison the well, and then argue to the judge that the whole effort is corrupt.

    If this is the strategy, they’ve signed on a bunch of people to go to prison on a hell of a longshot.

  71. 71.

    Sebastian

    This is unacceptable. Lock every single one of them up.

    I was at the TCF Center in Detroit yesterday as a non-partisan poll challenger. The woman in the maroon shirt with the black mask was one of the GOP challengers I monitored. At one point, she yelled that a ballot needed to be thrown out because it “looked sticky.” Another time https://t.co/1MTeZT2lxK— Julie Moroney (@juliecmoroney) November 6, 2020

  74. 74.

    cain

    @Kent: The really difficult thing in 20 years will be explaining to our grandchildren how we were ever ruled by these morons.

    This whole era reminds me of one of my fav Rush songs – “Farewell to Kings” the song is pretty apt;
    When they turn the pages of history
    When these days have passed long ago
    Will they read of us with sadness
    For the seeds that we let grow?
    We turned our gaze
    From the castles in the distance
    Eyes cast down
    On the path of least resistance
    Cities full of hatred
    Fear and lies
    Withered hearts
    And cruel, tormented eyes
    Scheming demons
    Dressed in kingly guise
    Beating down the multitude
    And scoffing at the wise
    The hypocrites are slandering
    The sacred halls of truth
    Ancient nobles showering
    Their bitterness on youth
    Can’t we find
    The minds that made us strong?
    Oh, can’t we learn
    To feel what’s right and what’s wrong? What’s wrong…

  75. 75.

    sdhays

    @James E Powell: The guy is clearly having the time of his life. He’s right at the center of an incredibly close election that is being watched around the world. He had an interview with an outlet in Australia earlier, according to his feed.

  76. 76.

    patroclus

    Kornacki “projecting” about a 51,000 lead for Biden in Pa. once the votes are counted (based on percentages of how well Biden has been doing).  And in Zona, Maricopa will be releasing a big batch of counted votes at 9:00 a.m. local time.

  77. 77.

    cain

    @patroclus:

    I don’t think you’re going to see an update from them given that the webmaster for the SoS has gone home. Probably a cranky Gen Xer.

    Unless the SoS is planning giving an update directly to the press.

  80. 80.

    jl

    @cain: ” Probably a cranky Gen Xer. ”

    Hey, watch it, OK Boomer?

    We need to hang together for the next installment of our national mess.

  82. 82.

    guachi

    I think it’s awesome that Clayton Co., formerly represented by John Lewis, will likely be what puts Biden ahead of Trump in Georgia.

  83. 83.

    lgerard

    @Martin:

     

    I saw some clip of Hannity claiming that PA’s vote was corrupt and the only solution was for the whole state to have another election

    LOL

  84. 84.

    patroclus

    @cain: Well, Clayton and Gwinnett counties have to have their own webmasters, so don’t make any assumptions.  The SoS won’t update (probably) until 6-7 hours from now.  As long as Kornacki can stay up, so can I.  But we’re probably just relying on MSNBC now – not all the other sites I’ve been checking.

  86. 86.

    Martin

    Police investigating a potential plot by q-anoners to shoot up the location where Philly ballots are being counted.

  87. 87.

    Martin

    If you need your webmaster to update vote data on your website, you failed at running a website. There is nothing easier to build than widget that will slurp data out of a google sheet or whatever and populate a web table.

    Webmaster should only get involved when the website breaks, or when your pet calendar needs to be organized.

  88. 88.

    jl

    @lgerard: Why are the Trumpsters all making such a fuss? I don’t know the details, but Emperor Trump, Sovereign, officially claimed the rebellious swing states’ electoral votes. It’s all over. They can go home. Relax, take a load off. Have a drink, or for some of them, many.

  93. 93.

    Quinerly

    Insane President a few minutes ago on Twitter:

    “I easily WIN the Presidency of the United States with LEGAL VOTES CAST. The OBSERVERS were not allowed, in any way, shape, or form, to do their job and therefore, votes accepted during this period must be determined to be ILLEGAL VOTES. U.S. Supreme Court should decide!”

  94. 94.

    Quinerly

    Insane Pres on Twitter 15 min ago:

    “Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!”

  95. 95.

    bjacques

    Houstonians of a certain age will recognize the antics above as a Harold’s Men’s Wear Riot.

  96. 96.

    patroclus

    Harry Enten (CNN’s Kornacki) just pointed out that Biden is leading by roughly 3% but House Dems are only winning by 1%, so the LP and never-Trumpers may have had a measurable material effect.

    Ga. down to 665!!!!  It’s from Clayton and was roughly 1300 votes and Enten just “projected” that when all of Clayton comes in, Biden will have a lead of about 400.  Plus, Gwinnett is still out.

  101. 101.

    Quinerly

    Insane Pres on Twitter within last hr:

    “So now the Democrats are working to gain control of the U.S. Senate through their actions on John James, David Perdue, and more. Would End the Filibuster, “Life”, 2A, and would Pack and Rotate the Court. Presidency becomes even more important. We will win!”

  103. 103.

    Misamericanthrope

    When is another network going to directly call out the insane conspiracies that Fox is peddling? Fox will be primarily responsible when some MAGAt eventually kills someone based on the shit they are spewing. I am afraid that we are still stuck with the Jake Tapper “sister network” bullshit mindset.

  112. 112.

    Quinerly

    @Luciamia: this is pure torture for Trump. Enjoy it. The table is set for Biden to take NV, AZ, GA, PA. It will happen. Savor the process.

  114. 114.

    patroclus

    @Luciamia: 4 days ago was early Monday morning.  The polls closed on Tuesday night; about 2 days ago, going into 3.  And the results are knowable; just not callable.  Biden is going to win; the House is staying Democratic; the Senate will be determined by 2 Georgia run-offs in January.  All we’re waiting for are the final tallies; network calls and Trump to go more insane.  It’s actually very enjoyable and a great time to be alive.

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    @Quinerly

    ILLEGAL VOTES

    What specific on the books law or laws were broken? Please cite chapter and verse.

    (Not directed at you, Quinerly.)

  132. 132.

    NotMax

    @Quinerly

    Now I’m mulling over digging out that can of anchovy-stuffed olives I know is somewhere in the pantry. Ten or fifteen minutes in the freezer ought to chill them to the temp they’re best (IMHO) served.

  133. 133.

    JR

    @Martin:  Final margin will be Biden +6 or so. Maybe a little more.

    Not a particularly close election. The house losses are basically because the Republicans turned out, and going from a national margin of +8.6 (in 2018) to +6 and change means you’re going to lose seats.

  134. 134.

    Quinerly

    @Sebastian: it’s all the power and glory… Last night in the WH:

    Paula White, who serves as President Trump’s spiritual adviser, led a prayer service on Wednesday in which she called for angels to “break up every demonic confederacy against the election, against America, against who you have declared to be in the White House.”

    “I hear a sound of victory. I hear a sound of shouting and singing. I hear a sound of victory,” she said. “For angels have even dispatched from Africa right now. Africa right now. Africa right now. From Africa right now.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/524612-trump-faith-adviser-leads-prayer-service-calling-for-angelic-reinforcement-in-election?fbclid=IwAR0giaaBCJOxepgXZ3SWw9gMl-GcImnnQsX2acGaprauCeAAjV_zgY-c4LE

  135. 135.

    TriassicSands

    @Luciamia:

    Calm down, please. The stress is bad for you.

    So what if it takes a week. Or more. I’m enjoying the periodic count updates that keep pushing Biden closer to victory. And every one of those updates probably feels like another spike driven into Trump’s head.

    Biden can’t take the oath until January. It’s probably best to keep the Thief-in-Chief occupied with Twitter and his lawsuits. Once he’s lost for sure, he’ll be able to concentrate on destroying as much as he can before they drag him, kicking and screaming, from the White House.

    In Washington State, we had a gubernatorial race (2004) that ended after what seemed like forever with the Democrat, Christine Gregoire, ahead by 129 votes (out of almost 2.75 million votes). But she won and the length of the count didn’t matter at all.

    It’s worth noting that in that election in 2004 and in a number of states this election the Libertarian candidates’ votes were more than enough to defeat the Democratic candidate, whether Gregoire or Biden. Third party votes can cut both ways. It’s possible that rank order voting would put Trump back in the White House. (I haven’t checked enough races to know that, but looking at the totals in N.Carolina, Georgia, and PA is scary. The Libertarian candidate has 41,000+, 61,000+, and 76,000+ votes respectively. Wouldn’t the majority of those go to the GOP candidate?)

  136. 136.

    Sebastian

    @Martin:

    I hear ya. I passed out last night at 1am and woke up in sheer panic at 7am looking through my phone.

    tonight I power napped around 7pm and I am ready!

  141. 141.

    Quinerly

    @NotMax: a favorite. In Boodles, dirty

    In related news, aren’t the white anchovies the absolute best with crackers and cheese,

  142. 142.

    scott (the other one)

    @Kent: “I mean…yes? We all do? Wait, did you really not realize that’s what we all thought of you? Oh, how embarrassing…”

  146. 146.

    NotMax

    @Sebastian

    woke up in sheer panic at 7am looking through my phone

    Sounds very much like the ending of a Twilight Zone episode.

    Oh. You mean you were peering at your phone.

    Never mind.

    :)

  150. 150.

    Quinerly

    1-2 more updates from Clayton Co will put Biden ahead of Trump in GA.

    After that, I don’t see Trump catching him based on where these last votes in GA will be coming from. All mail in and the military. Thoughts?

  152. 152.

    cain

    @Quinerly:

    Not sure, it could either way – but the military brass is not impressed and I suspect neither are the service man. Foreign policy hasn’t been the greatest – so if they are coming from abroad..

    It’s not like Trump has spent any time with the soldiers. How many times has he gone to Afghanistan ? Once in 4 years?

  154. 154.

    janesays

    @Quinerly: I think that’s correct, but given how insanely close the race will wind up being (<0.1% margin), it won’t be called until after a recount.

    Pennsylvania is going to be the state to push him over the 270 mark. Sometime in the next few hours, he’ll be declared president-elect.

  155. 155.

    TriassicSands

    @Quinerly:

    Who knows what the military is thinking or doing this year. Without knowing more, I wouldn’t count on military votes helping Biden. But if military personnel heard about Trump’s comments (losers, etc) and believed he really said those things that might have made a real difference. We will know soon (in geologic time).

  158. 158.

    Quinerly

    @TriassicSands: read somewhere tonight that the GA military ballots are mostly enlisted guys/gals. I’m thinking these “losers” ?from GA bases aren’t Trump fans.

  160. 160.

    NotMax

    @Quinerly

    My understanding is that when they are talking about military ballots for Georgia they’re talking about ballots received from GA residents stationed/deployed outside the state.

  162. 162.

    Sebastian

    @NotMax:

    Adam wrote about this earlier today and the military vote is actually civil servants as there are few combat troops left. The vote leans quite heavily blue.

  163. 163.

    TriassicSands

    @janesays:

    It could be a counting race because Nevada and Arizona together give Biden 270 and a seat behind the desk in the Oval Office for four years! All the AP is waiting for is Nevada, where Clark County (Democratic) has many votes outstanding.

    And, of course, nothing will be certain until the Barrett Court rules on Trump’s 140 million lawsuits (one for each vote, more or less).

    And Trump and Steven Miller will probably cobble together a new, improved mathematical system that invalidates 3 out of every 3 Democratic votes, giving Trump 100% of the popular vote and 6,000+ Electoral College votes. In short, the greatest landslide in the history of the universe. Naturally, the SCOTUS will suddenly rule in Trump’s favor with no written opinions and an unsigned ruling delivered anonymously at 3AM to Mitch McConnell’s office. The envelope will reek of cheap Scotch.

  164. 164.

    Quinerly

    @janesays: ?

    For sentimental and other reasons, I really hope AZ and GA put Biden over the top. At a minimum, Biden overtakes Trump in the count first in GA, with Clayton and DeKalb Cos doing the deed….. John Lewis’s old district.

  167. 167.

    Anne Laurie

    @Baud: I want whatever drugs they give to Kornacki to keep him afloat all week.

    Don’t watch Kornacki, don’t know his style, but I can tell you from personal experience that people with ADD (or OCD) can run non-stop through a crisis long after the normies have crashed.

    We pay a price for it later, but it’s one of the reasons the non-standard neurotypes haven’t been bred out of the population…

  171. 171.

    Sebastian

    Joe Biden has surpassed President Donald Trump in Georgia, a state where no Democratic presidential hopeful has won since 1992. The race is still too close to call, but it’s a major moment as Biden has now erased Trump’s edge. #gapol— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) November 6, 2020

  172. 172.

    Anne Laurie

    @TriassicSands: It could be a counting race because Nevada and Arizona together give Biden 270 and a seat behind the desk in the Oval Office for four years! All the AP is waiting for is Nevada, where Clark County (Democratic) has many votes outstanding.

    Rumor I’m seeing on twitter is that the (R) Secretaries of State in both Nevada & Arizona are dragging their feet, hoping against hope that they won’t have to be the face of Biden wins! when the MAGAts start hunting for scapegoats.

  179. 179.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I am thinking the same fatalism we are seeing with the Virus and the Right will mean the country will be alright with this election.

  181. 181.

    Tony Jay

    Georgia, huh? Aaaaaalways letting the Confederacy down, aintcha?

    First photoshop of Stacey Abrams in a Sherman at Atlanta setting wins the Internet for today.*

     

    *Then again, with the Senate coming down to two Georgia run-offs, maybe save it for later.

  185. 185.

    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

     

    Hurrah! Hurrah! we bring the jubilee!
    Hurrah! Hurrah! the flag that makes you free!
    So we sang the from Atlanta to the sea
    While we were marching through Georgia.

  189. 189.

    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

    First time we win Georgia in a two person race in 40 years.

     

    Thanks Stacy Abrams.

  190. 190.

    randal m sexton

    I imagine Stacy Abrams right now is probably hard at work. Working the phones, checking data, maybe dispatching people and resources here and there. And maybe doing it with a bit of joyful energy, and smiling and laughing a bit while she does it.

  194. 194.

    BethanyAnne

    Donald Trump is not going to overcome this lead. Gwinnett County has thousands of votes remaining, by far the county with the most remaining votes.
    — Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) November 6, 2020

  195. 195.

    Sebastian

    @Quinerly:

    Newt the piece of shit called for insurrection or some bullshit.

    We’ll deal with all of them later. Standard answers:

    – fuck you, we won

    – elections have consequences, our turn to consolidate power

     

    But RIGHT NOW I am pouring three fingers (looks more like four or five) of Jameson Black Barrel!

     

    Here is to you jackals! Victory!!

  196. 196.

    Quinerly

    @Sebastian: this is why I want GA!

    Plus, hard to bellow about corrupt Dems running the show re voting… Repugs run the state apparatus.

    Next up, the ghost of John McCain and the networks call AZ.

  197. 197.

    Baud

    Scott Lemieux at LGM

    At this point I almost have a certain perverse admiration for the ratfucking Republican legislators in PA/MI/WI who ensured Trump’s hopes for re-election would be slowly tortured to death for 60 hours rather than quickly announced on November 3.

  198. 198.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @Baud: Sorry to disappoint you, but I read an article yesterday about how he is the Energizer Bunny of MSNBC and he said that his drug of choice is Diet Coke.

  201. 201.

    Quinerly

    @Baud: I’ve been saying this all day. Trump is glued to the TV. I want Fox to call GA for Biden in a few hrs. Before everything gets sorted out in PA.

    99% votes in.

  207. 207.

    Martin

    We’re not getting on the ground reporting from AZ because Alex Jones showed up there and started whipping up the protestors, apparently to a rather dangerous level.

  208. 208.

    opiejeanne

    Those of you who know Soonergrunt, he just went to the hospital apparently having a heart attack. He drove himself there instead of calling an ambulance, saying the hospital is 5 minutes away.

  209. 209.

    Martin

    Kornacki smart to stay on air until the race is called. He’s certainly exhausted, but he wants to be the face in that promotional material.

  210. 210.

    JPL

    As long as they are postmarked, military and absentee votes can arrive until Tuesday.   Provisional ballots will be counted today and today any signature mismatches need to be corrected.\

    Gwinnett still has 5,000 ,   Cobb has 700   Clayton county still counting.

  213. 213.

    Quinerly

    @Sebastian: drank Jameson for years. I tend now to rye… Sazeracs in the winter.

    Love Midleton and Power’s. I guess I drink the cheap Milwaukee’s Beast (seems to be such a joke around here) so that I can afford to savor Midleton. ?

  214. 214.

    Evap

    I just woke up to hear that GA had flipped to Biden!!!   So happy!  I was born here and have lived in GA longer by far than anywhere else and I’m glad it was GA that put Biden over the top

  216. 216.

    opiejeanne

    @Martin: I know. He thought he was having an anxiety attack but when he mentioned that he tasted copper, everyone told him it was a heart attack and to call 911.

    I may have it wrong about him driving himself to the hospital. Hopefully his wife is driving.

  218. 218.

    Quinerly

    @JPL: yep. But pretty sure we are there re GA. I just wanted to overtake Trump in John Lewis territory. The rest is gravy.

  219. 219.

    Origuy

    I’m celebrating with a dram of Kilchoman Machir Bay, an Islay single malt. I have to work in the morning.

    For those who remember Soonergrunt, he tweeted about an hour ago that he had chest pains and tasted copper. Several people urged him to call 911. A few minutes later he tweeted that he was headed to a nearby hospital in his small Utah town. Keep him in your thoughts.b

    ETA opiejeanne beat me to it.

  220. 220.

    Tony Jay

    @opiejeanne:

    Shit. He’s a tough bastitch. Hopefully it’s not cardiac and he just drank too much Fizzy Pop while looking at D. J. Loser’s greased-up mug on TV.

  225. 225.

    Morzer

    I like to think that the spirit of William T. Sherman is looking down on Georgia right now and murmuring “Seems they’ve finally learned their lesson.”

  227. 227.

    Quinerly

    @raven: well, good for you. I forgot to go to sleep. Was waiting on your state. Aren’t we pretty sure GA is in the bag? All rural is already in and counted. Some of DeKalb and some of Gwinette left?

  233. 233.

    J R in WV

    @Quinerly:

     

    November 6, 2020 at 3:25 am

    @patroclus: what am I supposed to do with all these anchovies?

    I have had really good pasta with anchovies on, parsley garlic and cheese on good noodles. Google for “recipe pasta anchovies olives …” whatever you like in italian dishes.

    Wow, It’s hard to type correctly when you’re just up briefly from a sound sleep.

    Looks like GA is now down to a 463 vote Trump lead, still shrinking steadily. Hurray!!! Back to bed now that the meds are taking effect, as soon as I do my exercises.

  235. 235.

    JPL

    The local news channel that I’m watching had beams when they announced that Biden pulled ahead.

  239. 239.

    Repatriated

    Just realized something.  Since GA went blue and it looks like both of their Senate races are going to runoffs, the odds of a CoVID relief bill passing in the lame duck just went way up.

    Control of the Senate (50+VP/50) hinges on who wins those runoffs.

    Blocking a relief bill would be a great way for the GOP to make sure it loses both of those races.

    The only question is, at this point would Trump sign it?  What’s in it for him?

  240. 240.

    Morzer

    @raven: What’s left in Georgia is mostly from the blue counties where Biden crushed Trump. It’s a decent bet that Biden extends his lead and a recount doesn’t change the outcome.

  241. 241.

    J R in WV

    26 minutes GA flipped to a Biden lead of 917 votes when a tranche of about 2200 votes dropped, with 1843 more votes for Biden. This is on the spreadsheet recommended up above.

    Hurray!

    ETA… more like 31  after putxing with my email

  243. 243.

    Quinerly

    @Sebastian: Stella is good. I guess AB is now brewing it a couple blocks from where I live. Don’t drink it much when I’m out because just off my radar, plus.  I started boycotting anything AB when they sold out. If out and about (I miss my old life) I tend to a local microbrew, usually an IPA. If bottled or canned… Probably a Modelo, the dark or the lager. Cheers!

  244. 244.

    Cermet

    The statisticians got GA right – they called it a toss up; still, nice that the South is turning more Blue – by next election cycle need NC to become blue (would be except for the thugs dishonest gerrymandering.)

  245. 245.

    Morzer

    @Repatriated: McConnell might tell Trump to sign the bill or face a very rapid impeachment/application of the 25th Amendment. I am pretty sure he’d be willing to do that to Trump if he thought it would keep his ass in the Majority Leader’s chair.

  246. 246.

    Repatriated

    @Morzer: Good point.  Might not matter if Trump plans to resign to accept a pardon from Pence anyhow, but who knows? I wouldn’t expect Trump to do that until the last minute though, unless his hand gets forced.

    While Perdue could get a golden ticket to vote for the bill while the rest of the GOP caucus blocks it, it wouldn’t help much.

  248. 248.

    J R in WV

    @opiejeanne:

    Oh Fuck… well at least he got to the hospital. Heart attacks are very treatable once you’re being treated for whatever is going on. Poor guy can’t catch a break!

    You know that now you have to keep us informed while we watch Biden take charge….   ;~)

  249. 249.

    opiejeanne

    @R-Jud: Yes. It sounds crazy but I behaved somewhat similarly when I woke up appendicitis 4 years ago,. Called the advice nurse to ask if I should go to the walk-in clinic, had to wait nearly an hour for her to call me back,  and she told me to GO TO THE ER NOW!

  252. 252.

    JPL

    @Repatriated: The Supreme Court will hear the challenge to the ACA before the election.   Affordable health care will be on the ballot.

    Ossoff will have to fight the defund the police and socialism attacks the gop will toss at him.

  258. 258.

    opiejeanne

    @J R in WV: Haha! I’m a little bit awake now because of him and Georgia. I really should get some sleep soon.

    Katy Tur said Thursday evening that she would be telling us about Pennsylvania in the early hours on Friday, I think she said 4-5 am, and I assume that’s EST if she’s not in California or Arizona but it’s that time right now. .

  260. 260.

    JPL

    Clayton County just finished counting so another update in GA should be coming soon.   Biden’s lead will grow.

  261. 261.

    Zzyzx

    I predicted Georgia might have a shot ahead of time but I woke up for a second, saw the news, and I freaked. Sure the senate will suck but we did it. We fucking did it!!!

  262. 262.

    Repatriated

    @JPL: The USSC will do with the ACA as it wills. If the right-wing majority is smart, they’ll push the decision past the runoffs.

    The “defund the police” issue is already baked in.

    Only CoVID-19 relief is in play right now. Maybe cramming in a few judges too (which won’t help them).

  264. 264.

    raven

    @Winston: I’ve been holding off but it’s high priority. It was 8 till Bobby Seale got a separate trial after Hoffman had him bound and gagged.

  265. 265.

    cmorenc

    MSNBC news summary item:

    “Voters in five states approved measured to legalize recreational marijuana on Election day.”

    What about on other days?

  274. 274.

    Winston

    Hurricane coming up along the gulf coast of Florida this week end. And I thought we were going to be spared. Batten down the hatches. ???

  276. 276.

    SFAW

    @opiejeanne:

    I don’t know him (in the “personal correspondence” sense), but have read his stuff at his blog (or is it Twitter?), as well as here. I hope he’s OK, and that he has a speedy and total recovery.

  278. 278.

    Humanities Prof

    @Martin: In the event that anyone actually takes them up on it (and I doubt many will), they won’t go to prison.  This scheme is one of the dumber ones they’ve tried.

    Any Pennsylvania GOPer who still has an unreturned absentee ballot (likely not many, given the “ALL THE MAIL VOTEZ R FRAAAUUUDDSS!” screaming this summer) can’t mail it, since:

    a.  They’d be postmarked after election day, and

    b.  They’d never get there in time anyway, since the receipt deadline is today

    So they’d have to hand-deliver them to their local BoE.  And if they do that, the BoE staff will either say “Sorry, we can’t take this,” or they’ll take it and not count it.

    I mean MAYBE some of these folks voted in-person on election day, and they’re now trying to submit mail ballots.  But that won’t work, both for all the reasons I’ve noted above and because county election boards know who voted on election day, and any absentee ballot submitted now by someone who did would immediately get flagged and tossed.

    This is even more cockamamie than most of their cockamamie schemes.

  279. 279.

    SFAW

    @Morzer:

    McConnell might tell Trump to sign the bill or face a very rapid impeachment/application of the 25th Amendment.

    Not in this plane of reality he won’t.

  280. 280.

    Morzer

    @SFAW: I am not so sure about that.  Trump is about to be in an extremely weak position and will need McConnell much more than McConnell needs him.  I am sure McConnell wouldn’t want to make the threat – but he can also see that he can’t just sit on his hands and be confident of winning the Georgia runoffs.

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