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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Visual Communication: The Pennsylvania Attorney General Brings His A Game

Visual Communication: The Pennsylvania Attorney General Brings His A Game

by Adam L Silverman|  November 6, 202010:06 pm| 147 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, America, Domestic Politics, Information Warfare, Open Threads, Politics, Silverman on Security

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While we wait for Vice President and President-Elect presumptive Biden and Senator and Vice President-elect presumptive Harris to begin their event, I wanted to point out Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro’s absolutely excellent visual communication capabilities. Take a look at the picture below and notice what is on the shelf behind and a little bit above his left shoulder:

Visual Communication: The Pennsylvania Attorney General Brings His A Game

In the center, in front of the clock is a USPS mail truck. To the right of the truck is Count Von Count from Sesame Street. To the truck’s left, at the extreme left of the shelf, is Sam the Eagle at the presidential podium from The Muppet Show. And between Sam the Eagle and the USPS mail truck, to the left of the clock and above everything else is a Notorious RBG action figure.

Regardless of what AG Shapiro was saying, what he’s communicating here is that under his watch Pennsylvania will count all the mail in ballots in the 2020 election and for president under the watchful eye of the late Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. This is excellent visual communication!

And here’s the video of the media hit. Wait for it… Wait for it…

this teen wins election night 4.0 pic.twitter.com/wzzoyXwMU0

— Justin Sink (@justinsink) November 7, 2020

Well played young Shapiro, well played!

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    November 6, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    I saw the kid happen live. So 2020.

  2. 2.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    @Baud: I was on a minute delay because I paused and rewound to confirm what I’d seen on the shelf and take a picture.

  3. 3.

    themann1086

    November 6, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    Speculation is that he and Federman, who is also great, will run for Governor and Senator in 2022. Not sure who will run for what but they’re both great guys and I’m hoping they win!

  4. 4.

    Mike E

    November 6, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    I’m calling it for Schmidt(s beer)!

  5. 5.

    There go two miscreants

    November 6, 2020 at 10:15 pm

    Seeing The Count always brings pleasant memories of watching Sesame Street with my son (who is now in his 40s). I used to be able to do a passable imitation of The Count.

  6. 6.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 10:15 pm

    @Mike E: BURP!

  7. 7.

    Benw

    November 6, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    @Baud: Same here. That’s a good kid.

    Calmly backs away while texts friends: “dude I was just on TV did u see me dude!!!”

  8. 8.

    TaMara (HFG)

    November 6, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    I missed the teenager because I was feeding the critters. So glad twitter was on top of it so I was able to go back and rewind to watch.

  9. 9.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    November 6, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    In the center, in front of the clock is a USPS mail truck.

    Whenever I see David Plouffe on tv, he also has a USPS mail truck behind him.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    November 6, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    I love it when folks catch the little things that mean so much

  11. 11.

    Wag

    November 6, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    Reminds me of the British scientist a couple of years ago whose young child came is during an interview and his wife tried to sneak in behind his desk and grab the kid.  This kid handled it well.

  12. 12.

    Kent

    November 6, 2020 at 10:29 pm

    I just love this stuff. I’m ordinary so rational that I miss these fun cues.

  13. 13.

    Kent

    November 6, 2020 at 10:31 pm

    Biden is 15 minutes out per MSNBC.  Leaving his home to drive to the stage.

  14. 14.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    November 6, 2020 at 10:34 pm

    Just got a text message from my (very political) son revealing that the UK newspaper The Independent had just learned that Fat Bastard was. planning to hold “victory rally” this weekend. I thought this had to be the Onion or disinformation-but it looks legit. Anybody else know anything about this?

  15. 15.

    Kent

    November 6, 2020 at 10:35 pm

    Meme my kids are passing around right now to their friends:

    Remember to lower your truck flag to half mast!

  16. 16.

    Keith P.

    November 6, 2020 at 10:35 pm

    @Kent: I guess it’s too much to ask for him to drive to the speech in his ‘Vette, top down.

  17. 17.

    Kent

    November 6, 2020 at 10:36 pm

    @Keith P.:@Kent: I guess it’s too much to ask for him to drive in in his ‘Vette, top down.

    That would be a boss move.  But too much is at stake and those days are over I’m afraid.

  18. 18.

    Jerzy Russian

    November 6, 2020 at 10:37 pm

    No naturally he had a Count von Count action figure handy…

  19. 19.

    patrick II

    November 6, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    I hope that when covid is over they keep doing these interviews at home. More interesting than the studio versions and now they know how to do it.

  20. 20.

    Jerzy Russian

    November 6, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    @The Fat Kate Middleton:   Possibly a victory rally for Biden & Harrison?    At this stage anything is possible.

  21. 21.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    @Keith P.: @Kent: Yep. They plussed up his Secret Service detail on Wednesday. Midmorning they issued a nationals security NOTAMS and put up a TFR over his house and most of Delaware. And by that evening the additional Secret Service personnel had arrived.

  22. 22.

    Jerzy Russian

    November 6, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    It looks like Batman himself (aka Adam West) is a guest star in the Perry Mason episode I am watching now (The Case of the Barefaced Witness).   I assume at some point someone will get killed.  I hope it is not him!

  23. 23.

    Dan B

    November 6, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    Thank you Adam, smotch, smootchie, hugs and kisses,

    Oops, sorry . Did I go too far?

    I love when anybody points out brilliant communication – crossing all the ‘eyes’ and crossing all the ‘tease’. There are so many layers to this onion of effective and strategic communication. It gets increasingly empowering and exhilarating the farther you go. Who doesn’t want that?

    Posts like this, and similar, will be so essential the closer we get to 1/21/21.

    Empowerment. Need I say more? You are an expert guide. And I feel glad to recognize that.

  24. 24.

    Redshift

    November 6, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    @patrick II:

    I hope that when covid is over they keep doing these interviews at home. More interesting than the studio versions and now they know how to do it.

    A friend does freelance video tech work, and they all expect their industry to be decimated post-covid, because so many video productions (not just broadcast, but business), they’ve now accepted that zoom and such are “good enough” and are of course way cheaper than professional video production.

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 6, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    @Wag: You mean this?

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    @Dan B: We’re supposed to be socially distancing, but other than that, thanks.

  27. 27.

    EmanG

    November 6, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    Oh my God cubed. (third power y’all). That is the most 2020 moment yet. A reluctant star is born.

  28. 28.

    Kent

    November 6, 2020 at 10:49 pm

    Biden and Harris are in the House.  Expected on stage momentarily

    And here they are

  29. 29.

    waratah

    November 6, 2020 at 10:49 pm

    I agree I wish we had him in Texas.
    I had a crush on the guy in Georgia today that was explaining  their vote counting. I loved how he gave the news media and those watching how to pronounce Dekalb and Houston they Georgian way.

  30. 30.

    Sally

    November 6, 2020 at 10:52 pm

    Hi y’all. What a lovely day! I have spent ages trying to find the link to a cartoon that I found very poignant. I can’t find an original location , please excuse the clumsiness of this.  I hope you’ll click and enjoy it too.
    https://nativescience.blog/2020/07/19/john-lewis-and-the-portland-connection/

  31. 31.

    Wag

    November 6, 2020 at 10:52 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:   Yes!  I knew someone here would have stronger Google-fu than I do and would quickly find it!   Thanks.

  32. 32.

    piratedan

    November 6, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    i guess none of us should be surprised by this chain of events because it appears that the only thing that moves the media is when a white supremacist liar is calling the shots that they can’t find their balls.  Hell, the sonofabitch has been lying non-stop for the last 5 years and they haven’t been able to call him a liar… committing treason becomes “unusual foreign policy”,  unbridled corruption ends up being “unsubstantiated financing”, I swear if they spent less time coming up with creative euphemisms for all of the shit Trump does, the public would be much better informed.

    I get the distinct impression that while the outside temp is 120 without any shade, the pool looks mightily inviting but no one wants to go first because all the networks are busy playing political double dare to stay out of sight of the bully; who really doesn’t care because he’s gonna try and abuse them all anyway.

    That leads me to my other issue with the MSM, they continually act as if they are above this all, that they are simply observers, that they do not frame the events, they simply “report them” without recognizing that the very schtick that they pull does its own kind of damage, it’s like they want to be the judges, but they get really pissed off when you point out that not only are the scales seriously out of balance, but maybe they shouldn’t have left the chocolate fingerprints on everything that they got from the very people their supposed to be reporting fairly upon…

  33. 33.

    PsiFighter37

    November 6, 2020 at 11:00 pm

    Fairly standard speech for Biden. I sure hope he can give a victory speech tomorrow. Media outlets are fucking assholes for trying to milk eyeballs for advertising dollars.

  34. 34.

    patrick II

    November 6, 2020 at 11:00 pm

    Thank you Adam. You have a sharp eye.

  35. 35.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 6, 2020 at 11:04 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: @Wag: the way that little girl marches into the room just cracks me up, then the baby rolling in like some star wars droid

  36. 36.

    Kent

    November 6, 2020 at 11:04 pm

    Drip drip drip.  The numbers keep creeping up.  Since this thread started the PA lead has gone up by 1700 to 28,833.  And the GA number keeps creeping up bit by bit and now sits at 4,395

    Earlier Andrea Mitchell let slip that if the PA lead his 35,000 they are going to have to call it at NBC and MSNBC.  I’m not sure if that is some actual threshold or just her opinion.  They are 6200 away from that.

  37. 37.

    Ksmiami

    November 6, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    @piratedan: Villago Delenda Est. They aren’t reporters they are mediocre entertainers with delusions of their own grandeur

  38. 38.

    JoyceH

    November 6, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    The crucial quote from the Biden speech that I texted to a friend was that the voters “have given us a mandate for change.”  I was all YES YES YES!

    But I thought he sounded a little hoarse. He needs to pamper his throat for a few days.

  39. 39.

    Oklahomo

    November 6, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    @PsiFighter37: I’m so goddamned tired of hearing about the breakdowns of the returns clean into the quantum levels.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    @patrick II: Do not try this at home, Ay arz eh perfeshunahl!

  41. 41.

    Curtis

    November 6, 2020 at 11:07 pm

    They should have called this election hours ago. I guess because of covid and mail-in ballots, their normal predictive models are out of whack, but it’s getting silly at this point.

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:07 pm

    @PsiFighter37: My guess is they’ll give it through the weekend and if the news media can’t/won’t get the stick out, Biden’ll do a speech explaining why there is no way the president can make the deficits up and there is no legal remedies to him and that they’re formally beginning the transition and the President and his administration can be part of moving the Nation forward by performing their final acts of public service or not, but either way, that business is going to begin.

  43. 43.

    dmsilev

    November 6, 2020 at 11:07 pm

    @Kent: 35,000 is 0.5 percent, which I believe is the recount threshold in PA. If you’re going to draw a ‘will make the call here’ line, that seems like a reasonable choice.

  44. 44.

    Mary G

    November 6, 2020 at 11:07 pm

    @patrick II: I love seeing their home offices. This is one of the best.

  45. 45.

    oldgold

    November 6, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    Bloomberg News is reporting Mark Meadows has Covid.

  46. 46.

    guachi

    November 6, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    I think 35000 puts Biden’s lead at about 0.5% and that is some kind of magic threshold for calling it.

  47. 47.

    frosty

    November 6, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    I saw the kid too. Not quite as funny as the toddler and the wife with the British guy several months ago, but yeah, Dad’s on camera, I’d better back out of here.

     

    ETA: Sharp eye, Adam, I can’t believe you noticed enough of that to get a screen shot!

  48. 48.

    dmsilev

    November 6, 2020 at 11:11 pm

    @oldgold: Send thoughts and prayers.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:11 pm

    BREAKING: Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, has the coronavirus. Meadows informed a close circle of advisers after the election.

    Story by me, @tylerpager and @MarioDParker out soon.

    — Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) November 7, 2020

    Schadenfreude

  50. 50.

    Dan B

    November 6, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: All the nonverbal cues add up.  I had hundreds of people tell me that the non- verbal cues mattered whenever I was on radio or TV, or telling my story about being a gay kid who didn’t find anyone like him for years moved them.  We took down or blindsided so many bigots by telling stories instead of arguing facts.

    I got on TV, radio, and the papers when I went to an anti-gay “conversion therapy” event at a local mega-church.  The organizer cruised 40 year old me.  The young presenters looked downtrodden.  I ended up on TV, not by my choice.  I said they felt sad and that my life was happy because I knew where I could find and spread love.  The next day I was on a local right winger show.  He couldn’t take me down the road he wanted because I didn’t attack him.  I told my feelings and my history.

    Near the end I said I had to get back to work.  That was the truth.  My Mike guy was stunned.  Not long after the anti-gay forces lost.

    I failed at all the professional gay communication spokesman trainings.  They are better but you don’t have to be perfect to change the world.

  51. 51.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    I’m drunk as skunk, but I’m getting the feeling things are breaking in a a way that even the 3-6 supremos are not going to be able to steal this away.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    @frosty: I first noticed the Count. Then I hit pause, backed it up a frame or two and hit pause again, realized all the other items he had, and decided to take a picture with my iPad.

  53. 53.

    randy khan

    November 6, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    @oldgold:

    The only surprise is that he didn’t get it sooner.

  54. 54.

    OGLiberal

    November 6, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    Great eye on the shelf.  That kid reacted exactly like my son would have.

    We’ve have the kids watching the PBS News Hour. (or, sometimes, the Beeb, which is on right before on our local public broadcasting station)  It ain’t perfect but it’s an hour, they have some good in-depth stuff, and they are mostly doing their stuff from home.  What my kids always notice are the pets in the background since most of them are broadcasting from home.  My daughter just found this vid from earlier this year featuring the pets:

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1133120410398347

    My kids love Lisa Desjardins’ cat because he’s almost always there and all he does is sleep or groom on the couch in the back.  I will note – and I’m sure this is not unique – that one of our cats love being in whatever room it is where her people are talking.  I’m sure that’s why these pets wander on to cam so frequently.  The teen in the vid featured in this post?  He had no idea.

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    @Dan B: Clear, genuine, and forthright gets one a long way to hitting the strategic communication target.

  56. 56.

    Melusine

    November 6, 2020 at 11:16 pm

    Thanks for pointing out those details, Adam! It’s reassuring to see officials signaling a commitment to democracy.

  57. 57.

    Keith P.

    November 6, 2020 at 11:17 pm

    @oldgold: It was only a matter of time.

  58. 58.

    zhena gogolia

    November 6, 2020 at 11:17 pm

    @Jeffro:

    You should see my students’ eyes bug out when I bring a boombox to class (back when there was such a thing as a class). Some things I want to play for them I have only on cassette tape or CD.

  59. 59.

    Mike in NC

    November 6, 2020 at 11:17 pm

    @different-church-lady: Well, you have another round on all of us and charge it to Mr. Cole.

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    @different-church-lady: There is not enough out in NV, AZ, or PA for Trump to overcome the deficits he’s got. This also appears to be the case in GA. As for the legal stuff, all the things they’ve tried to litigate have gone nowhere because they don’t have anything. When you spend 35 years smoking your own stash of “voter fraud is rampant, the Democrats are always stealing elections so we have to do all these security things that just by complete happenstance disenfranchise everyone who doesn’t vote for us” despite there being no evidence whatsoever, when you get into court and you don’t have any evidence not even partisan judges can help you very much.

  61. 61.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    No, seriously, “Here’s a Triscut” should be a rotating tag line…

  62. 62.

    clay

    November 6, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    My wife literally teared up during Biden’s speech.  “We finally have a President again,” she said.

  63. 63.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I was thinking the supremos could ratfuck us if it was close, but not if we’re dealing with over twenty electoral votes.

  64. 64.

    frosty

    November 6, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    @different-church-lady: You’re right, this election can’t be flipped by the Supremos. Hope you survive the morning!!!!

  65. 65.

    zhena gogolia

    November 6, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    I just realized I haven’t gotten an e-mail all evening. I thought — is there a malfunction? Then I realized: the election is over (sort of).

  66. 66.

    Redshift

    November 6, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    @JoyceH:

    The crucial quote from the Biden speech that I texted to a friend was that the voters “have given us a mandate for change.”  I was all YES YES YES! 

    Me, too! I’m so glad that Joe gets that he needs to claim a mandate right from the beginning. And unlike the GOP, he doesn’t have to lie to do it, because he actually got a sizeable majority of the votes!

  67. 67.

    Suzanne

    November 6, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    Hah. Mark Meadows got The Rona.

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    November 6, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    @Suzanne: Is your baby’s rash better?

  69. 69.

    Another Scott

    November 6, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    @Dan B: Thanks for that.

    You’ve got a lot of great stories and an important history.  I hope that you think about writing a memoir.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  70. 70.

    frosty

    November 6, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    @different-church-lady: Nominated. You’re welcome.

  71. 71.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:24 pm

    I mean honestly, I’m thinking this is what it was like when Sese Seko got expelled. Dictators dictate utterly until the moment enough pepole sense they’re weak and vulnerable, and then they get ditched in a heartbeat.

  72. 72.

    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

    November 6, 2020 at 11:25 pm

    Act Blue raised $13 million dollars today.

    On to Georgia.

  73. 73.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    @frosty: FUCK MORNINGS!!!!

  74. 74.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    @Dan B:

    Did I go too far?

    We’re good.

  75. 75.

    frosty

    November 6, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    @different-church-lady: Seconded!!!

  76. 76.

    Suzanne

    November 6, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    @WaterGirl: It looks to be mostly resolved. She has a little bit of peeling on her cheeks but it’s almost gone. I have super-sensitive skin, and I get rashes frequently. I still don’t know what triggered this one.

  77. 77.

    Mai Naem mobile

    November 6, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: the a-hole who refused to speak to the journalist who asked him to mask up at the Capitol. Also the one who had the 300 person wedding for the daughter over the summer. Zero empathy.

    My favorite person of the day was the Philly official(Mayor?) I was listening on the radio. Anyway he asked Orange Dbag to put his big boy pants on and concede like Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and George HW Bush did.

  78. 78.

    Kattails

    November 6, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    I would like to have an actual celebratory drink, rather than a “damp down the anxiety” drink.

  79. 79.

    guachi

    November 6, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    Since Steve Bullock lost in Montana he should be Secretary of the Interior. One of his campaign slogans was “public lands in public hands”. It’s a really big deal in Montana.

    To give you an idea how important it is to Montanans, the 1972 Montana Constitution states that all waterways in Montana are property of the state.

  80. 80.

    Another Scott

    November 6, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    DC will be 51.

    Puerto Rico wants to be 52.

    Route 50:

    Voters in Puerto Rico declared this week they want to move forward with trying to turn the territory into the 51st state.

    The nonbinding measure, approved by a 52% to 48% margin, gives Puerto Ricans the go-ahead to pressure Congress toward granting statehood—but whether or not the U.S. House and Senate will be receptive remains to be seen.

    The vote on Tuesday was the sixth time Puerto Ricans cast ballots on the question of statehood, a proposal that received overwhelming support in both 2012 and 2017. The voter turnout this year, however, was much higher than the last time Puerto Rico weighed the issue, at 51% compared to 23% in 2017. (In 2017, statehood opponents and those who favor complete political independence encouraged a boycott of the vote because they considered the wording of the ballot question unfairly skewed towards statehood.)

    With the 2020 ballot measure now approved, the governor will appoint a seven-member commission to represent the territory in negotiations with the United States. The process for adding states to the union isn’t set in stone, but generally requires the territory to present a plan to Congress and the president, after which a simple majority approval in the U.S. House and Senate, followed by the president’s signature, can result in the territory’s admission as a state.

    […]

    Success breeds success. More, please.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  81. 81.

    Yutsano

    November 6, 2020 at 11:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Okay Mr. Run-on. :P

    I know exactly why no one is calling the race. No one wants to be “first”. No one wants to bring the wrath of his supporters on them. So they’re all hemming and hawing, waiting for the other guy to jump off that cliff first. I mean, they actually had Steve Kornacki give some massive bullpuckey about how the provisional votes were starting to drag towards Drumpf. It’s getting ridiculous.

  82. 82.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile: Mark Meadows is what happens when the guy who owns the sandwich shop in the semi-rural bedroom community outside the university town decides he’s a history changing figure who knows more about anything and everything than the actual subject matter experts.

  83. 83.

    patrick II

    November 6, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Trump is not used to using the courts for a legal outcome, but a bullying one. He’s stepped up in weight class this time.

  84. 84.

    divF

    November 6, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile: Philly’s come a long way from the 70s when Frank Rizzo, a vicious and bigoted ex-cop, was Mayor.

  85. 85.

    Gravenstone

    November 6, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    @oldgold:  So the White House superspreader environment continues apace.

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    @Yutsano: It is ridiculous. But as I said last night:

    Kornacki is actually a statistics doctoral candidate who died in a horrifying, but tragic card reading machine accident in 1962. MSNBC uses that coffee Joy Ann Reid drinks to always be wired on air, combined with datura stramonium (Zombie cucumber) to reanimate him for election season. The rest of the time they keep him on ice in the 30 Rock basement.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    @patrick II: Yep.

  88. 88.

    WaterGirl

    November 6, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    @Suzanne: Yeah, I have sensitive skin, too.  Got it from my dad.  I call it my “princess and the pea skin” because it’s so fussy.

    Glad to hear it’s clearing up so you don’t need to worry!

  89. 89.

    divF

    November 6, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Do they keep him in a glass coffin, like Lenin ?

    ETA: I’m old enough to have used keypunched cards to program computers…

  90. 90.

    Kristine

    November 6, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: They’re like bookcase emojis.

  91. 91.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    So…

    Nothing in the world can ever make the fact that Trump became president in the first place right.

    But…

    Consider this: once you’ve been president of the United States… there’s nowhere else to go. Trump will be chasing this dragon for the rest of his miserable existence.

  92. 92.

    Suzanne

    November 6, 2020 at 11:38 pm

    @WaterGirl: I still worry. I’m a fretter.

  93. 93.

    WaterGirl

    November 6, 2020 at 11:38 pm

    @Gravenstone: Wonder how many people got it at the election night party at the white house?  You know the chief of staff had to have been there.

  94. 94.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:39 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: “Ash Kornacki is a robot!”

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    November 6, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    @Suzanne: I always figured having multiple kids would cure someone of that – because there’s always something, isn’t there?

  96. 96.

    Keith P.

    November 6, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    @Yutsano: Naa, this is about dragging out the ratings for as many days as possible.  Well, not Fox News….I *highly* doubt they’ll call the race first, given how much of a headache that’s been for the re: Team Trump

    @different-church-lady: Trump’s gonna be having dragons chasing him for the next couple of years.

  97. 97.

    Dan B

    November 6, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Hugs!

    6 feet, of course.  But your knowledge and intellect should enice some fantastic military / security (yes, they’re different) to your, and our, benefit.

  98. 98.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 6, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: hehehe want to bet that Medows doesn’t, but is faking it just to get out of coming to work for the next month? lol

  99. 99.

    Kristine

    November 6, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I mean, they actually had Steve Kornacki give some massive bullpuckey about how the provisional votes were starting to drag towards Drumpf. It’s getting ridiculous.

    The AZ-based reporter also discussed how Trump was closing the gap in AZ and is therefore not out of it yet. This despite the fact that he’s still losing PA, his must-win state. I gave up and switched to Ant-Man.

  100. 100.

    different-church-lady

    November 6, 2020 at 11:44 pm

    Seriously, it feel more like he’s been deposed than defeated.

  101. 101.

    Scott the Lurker

    November 6, 2020 at 11:44 pm

    I’m pretty sure that’s actually an RBG I Dissent menorah!

  102. 102.

    Lyrebird-on-tablet

    November 6, 2020 at 11:44 pm

    @themann1086: Yeah, l wonder if he and Fetterman have shared strategy tips, just look at how he keeps that great picture of his wife and kids right over his shoulder for the camera.

  103. 103.

    Gravenstone

    November 6, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    @WaterGirl: Likely too recent to have developed it yet if he was exposed there. But I’m willing to bet he was absolutely passing it around there.

  104. 104.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    @divF: They use the system Hydra used to keep the Winter Soldier on ice between missions.

  105. 105.

    Horatius

    November 6, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    @oldgold: I do have some bleach lying around.

  106. 106.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:48 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: I neither know nor care to be honest. If he was just some stupid goober like Gohmert who wound up well above where he should’ve been and was relatively harmless, other than the occasional stunt rooted in his being stupid and unaware of that fact, it would be one thing. But he’s malevolently stupid and he’s ambitious and found a way to combine those into being exceedingly harmful to the Republic. I have no empathy or sympathy for him because, frankly, he has none for anyone else.

  107. 107.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 6, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    @Scott the Lurker: It may be. I thought that it might be an RBG figure perched on a menorah or Hanukiah, but couldn’t tell either way.

  108. 108.

    dww44

    November 6, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Well I’m getting almost as many as before Tuesday.  Guess where I live!

  109. 109.

    WaterGirl

    November 6, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    @Gravenstone: After I read your first sentence, that’s what I was going to day.  The timing would have been right for him to have been contagious.  All these people deserve each other.

  110. 110.

    WaterGirl

    November 6, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    @dww44: GA?

  111. 111.

    NotMax

    November 6, 2020 at 11:57 pm

    @different-church-lady

    A little something for your quaffing wish list?

    Pretty much all the major food groups in one bottle.

    ;)

  112. 112.

    oldgold

    November 7, 2020 at 12:01 am

    @JenniferJJacobs

    NEWS: Along with Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, at least FOUR other White House aides currently have coronavirus, per sources. Pains were taken to keep Meadows’ illness a secret, I’m told. And people around him who knew were told to keep quiet.

  113. 113.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2020 at 12:01 am

    OMG!  It’s raining.

  114. 114.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2020 at 12:02 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I know!

  115. 115.

    different-church-lady

    November 7, 2020 at 12:03 am

    @NotMax: Look, people do all kinds of things…

  116. 116.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 7, 2020 at 12:05 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Congratulations?

  117. 117.

    Aleta

    November 7, 2020 at 12:06 am

    @NotMax: Probably good in mincemeat pie if you like that kind of pie.  (If not it would probably improve it a lot.)

  118. 118.

    different-church-lady

    November 7, 2020 at 12:06 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I was in Montana during the 2003 fires. I saw firsthand that it only takes a little bit rain to help with the fires a lot.

  119. 119.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2020 at 12:09 am

    @Adam L Silverman: First time since early May.

  120. 120.

    frosty

    November 7, 2020 at 12:10 am

    @divF: I think most of us here are old enough to have used a keypunch for data entry.

  121. 121.

    dww44

    November 7, 2020 at 12:10 am

    @WaterGirl: Yep.  I was looking forward a bit to having not so many emails in my inbox.  But this result is just so worth it.  The Democratic party here has not held a state wide office since 2002 when Sonny Perdue became the first GOP Governor.  Like most GOP’ers of his era he, too, was once a Democrat.  He’s a far better politician than his cousin David.  Neither of them win any plaudits in other arena.  Both of them, though, hail from the same county just below here that Sam Nunn is from.  A very strong Republican stronghold it is now. And highly dependent, economically, on defense spending.

  122. 122.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2020 at 12:10 am

    I love this Pete Souza photo; it illustrates past and future America the way Norman Rockwell might paint it if he was alive:

    Madison, Wisconsin, this afternoon. pic.twitter.com/WvCkur3n7t
    — Pete Souza (@PeteSouza) November 6, 2020

    The woman is so furious and the young man is just standing there with a twinkle in his eye and probably a smile beneath his mask.

  123. 123.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 7, 2020 at 12:10 am

    @different-church-lady: I’m very aware. I’ve lived in Colorado and up in the mountains of New Mexico.

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 7, 2020 at 12:11 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I knew you’d had little rain, but I didn’t realize it had been that long since the last rainfall.

  125. 125.

    frosty

    November 7, 2020 at 12:11 am

    @different-church-lady: Taft went to the Supreme Court. And I expect Obama still has things to do. But Trump? Nah.

  126. 126.

    Oklahomo

    November 7, 2020 at 12:12 am

    @Adam L Silverman: He projects such a self-righteous smugness (and he’s a lying sack of shit) that it’s impossible to sympathize with him.

  127. 127.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 7, 2020 at 12:13 am

    @Oklahomo: Yep.

  128. 128.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2020 at 12:15 am

    @Adam L Silverman: We sometimes get some monsoonal flow, but not much rain out of it.  We didn’t really get the monsoonal flow this year.  It’s usually pretty dry from mid-Spring to mid-Fall.

  129. 129.

    different-church-lady

    November 7, 2020 at 12:15 am

    What, your freude is not Schaden enough yet? Regarde!

    Special Counsel has opened an investigation into Trump’s use of the White House for campaign-related activities, Reuters reports

  130. 130.

    Another Scott

    November 7, 2020 at 12:15 am

    Yay! It’s finally over!!11

    Soap Opera Digest has called the race for Biden. https://t.co/sERmGFqKUA

    — Angela #blacklivesmatter (@AngelaGunn) November 7, 2020

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  131. 131.

    hotshoe

    November 7, 2020 at 12:18 am

    @oldgold:

    Every one of them who was told and then agreed to keep the secret in spite of the danger of infection for innocent other people, should be chained in stocks in downtown NY from now until January.

    Merciful, they can remain clothed.

  132. 132.

    Eljai

    November 7, 2020 at 12:20 am

    @Kattails: You get me!

  133. 133.

    frosty

    November 7, 2020 at 12:21 am

    @Lyrebird-on-tablet: I lurve Fetterman. He would have beaten Toomey if the PA Dems had gotten behind him. That being said, I think he’s a better match for an executive position than legislative. The guy wants to get stuff done.

  134. 134.

    Another Scott

    November 7, 2020 at 12:22 am

    Networks are right to have held off on a call even though Biden’s win has been obvious since election night. Nothing should be called until we have a live Trumpcam set up to get his reaction. Or a fox and friends call in would be ideal. We deserve to see this.

    — Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato) November 7, 2020

    Let a million memes bloom.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  135. 135.

    Amir Khalid

    November 7, 2020 at 12:22 am

    @different-church-lady:

    What, your freude is not Schaden enough yet?

    Tsk, tsk. Your question should be “What, his Schade has not brought you enough Freude yet?” (Schade = misfortune, Freude = joy)

    Yes, I’m such a pedant that I learned German just so I could pedant in that language as well.

  136. 136.

    different-church-lady

    November 7, 2020 at 12:24 am

    @Amir Khalid: KISS MY SAUERBRATEN!!!

  137. 137.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 7, 2020 at 12:35 am

    @Adam L Silverman: All good points so then let consider the kind of abuse Trump must be lobbing at Medows right now for failing to steal the election for Trump. That and COVID couldn’t happen to nicer guy than Medows.

  138. 138.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2020 at 12:35 am

    @different-church-lady: So…you have sauerbraten? :)

  139. 139.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2020 at 12:37 am

    @Amir Khalid: Grammar rules aren’t really on Americans’ minds these days. :)

  140. 140.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2020 at 12:40 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Dump is opening fire on everyone but his family. (for now)

    “WWWAAHHHHH!!!!!  Why didn’t everyone kiss my fat, orange, fascist ass the past four years!???  I’m tremendous bigly!!!!”

    States’ AG’s are gunning for the Soviet shitpile mobster conman.

  141. 141.

    Oklahomo

    November 7, 2020 at 12:45 am

    @mrmoshpotato: I blame Betsy DeVoss for that.

  142. 142.

    Elizabelle

    November 7, 2020 at 12:46 am

    @Lyrebird-on-tablet:   Love that article, and the links within about John Fetterman.  What a cool guy, with a wonderful wife and family.

    Knew a little bit about him, and will now follow him more closely.

  143. 143.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    November 7, 2020 at 12:53 am

    @Amir Khalid: Both admirable and charming. A polyglottal pedant!

  144. 144.

    TMC

    November 7, 2020 at 1:18 am

    @Scott the Lurker:  yes , it is. I have one, too.

  145. 145.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2020 at 1:24 am

    @Oklahomo: Dude.  Social distancing (and a few state lines) keeps me from smacking you in the bones.

  146. 146.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2020 at 1:26 am

    GBBOtb – Great British Bake Off then bed.

    Good night.  (We’ll see what the morning brings us (aside from more Biden votes))

  147. 147.

    trnc

    November 7, 2020 at 7:37 am

    @guachi: 

    I think 35000 puts Biden’s lead at about 0.5% and that is some kind of magic threshold for calling it.

    It’s the automatic recount threshold. Since recounts don’t generally change outcomes, the news orgs would probably call it at that point. I would expect DT will demand a recount anyway, but the campaign would have to pay for it and it’s unclear whether they have maxed out their credit cards on hookers and blow.

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