NEWS: Along with Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, at least FOUR other White House aides currently have coronavirus, per sources.
Pains were taken to keep Meadows’ illness a secret, I’m told. And people around him who knew were told to keep quiet.
— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) November 7, 2020
I’ve had a cold for about five days now, and it was irritating enough that on Tuesday I called up my provider, scheduled and appointment at the drive through clinic in Wheeling, and went down and had a covid test. I didn’t think I had it, but I was feeling like crap and even though my oxygen levels were at 99 and my temp was 97-98 degrees, I have to do enough trips to the doctor with neighbors and do enough grocery pickups that it was the only responsible thing to do. I got the results on Thursday, and I am, of course, covid negative, but I had to know.
I simply do not, and will not, ever understand what is wrong with these people. It’s just something that I can not understand.
Visual Communication: The Pennsylvania Attorney General Brings His A Game
Sebastian
I have reached a point where I am done preventing them sticking their dicks into wall sockets. Let COVID rage through their communities and let them learn the hard way. The smarter ones will survive.
MikeBoyScout
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
?BillinGlendaleCA
Modern Republicans don’t give a shit about anybody else. Perfect behavior for a pandemic.
Bill Arnold
I’ve loathed Mark Meadows for months. This SARS-CoV-2 bit, hiding infections, is extremely loathsome behavior on his part.
Unrelated, but also important. Colombian involvement was part of the Spanish language anti-Biden influence operation in Florida. (Which was full of lies, viler than usual IMO.)
Luciamia
Greed. That’s what guides their daily life
Raoul Paste
Zicam nose swabs
YMMV, but they work well for me
Glyph2112
I received a letter today from someone who lives 5 miles from me in AZ. I noticed the postmark was dated 10/30 and had a Texas stamp on it. Any good reason usps would route a letter from and to AZ through Texas?
khead
All of us jackals waiting for the election announcement be like…..
Anya
I never thought it was possible for that many psychopaths to be in one place. They are all awful people. Every day, we find a new example of their awfulness.
dmsilev
So, I guess the virus wasn’t in fact a media hoax that would vanish on November 4th.
I’m shocked.
Aleta
ETA But above demo is in GA I think.
Anya
@Bill Arnold: The North Remembers.
Mary G
He’s the main reason no additional coronavirus relief has been passed. Mitch McTurtle wouldn’t have liked doing it, but he would have if Twitler had bought in to a deal. Meadows was a bomb-throwing killer of compromises when he was in the “Freedom” Caucus in the house, and he encouraged Twitler in his random incoherent flailings over the summer. I hate to admit it, but I hope he will have a bad case, struggle to breathe, and be put on a vent so he can experience the harm this administration has done to so many people in letting the Rona run rampant. Not die, suffer with Long Covid damage for the rest of his miserable life.
Dopey-o
Zicam nose swabs have been associated with loss of smell, IIRC.
Zicam Nasal Swabs and sense of smell.
I have had good results with the Zicam Oral Spray, by contrast.
HumboldtBlue
@Aleta:
‘Cause we got black folk and they got Tim Scott, Nimrata Randhawa and a random Jew willing to put kids in cages.
grandpa john
@Mary G:
Pooh
I accidentally sent my son to bed in tears tonight because I had to yell to keep him from playing with the neighbor kid because the neighbor dad has COVID. I’m so fucking mad at these goddman people.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dmsilev: Some things are not like “The Caravans”, i guess.
glc
@khead: Wound up rewatching the voir dire.
Been a long time. Still saying “Lunch? … Ya tink?”
Citizen Alan
I’ve said before that I don’t consider Trump supporters to be functionally human. I genuinely don’t think they have souls.
James E Powell
Tweet from Len Necefer, Ph.D. @lennecefer
David Hunt
I believe the answer to your main question is that there is a very limited piece of humanity that they consider to actually be people.
Bill Arnold
Anyone who isn’t curating such a list is being negligent. (Mine is in browser tabs. Oh so many tabs.) The tweet this one refs has a long thread of peoples’ lists (and corrections/suggestions).
grandpa john
A thought that hit me as I was watching the election returns , A year from now, How many of those rabid, ignorant Trump voters will be dead or have serious health problems by next November
Subsole
@Sebastian: Sadly, virii are no respecters of intelligence.
The Pale Scot
‘Cause dez assholes John
August Campbell The Asshole song
Lily Allen has the goto song Fuck you
“I want this to be played as they drag Trump out of the White House”
khead
@glc:
“Win some, lose some.”
Subsole
@Bill Arnold: That’s it. Nuke facebook. We are not closing the book on American democracy so Zuck and his investors can squeeze one more penny out of the internet. This shit has got to stop.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
It’s a basket of deplorable in that admin John, assholes all the way down. One would have though Cain dying would have got that point across that COVID is serious shit.
mrmoshpotato
And here’s the FOAD point – and take that Nazi youth pile of shit in NC-11 with you. This is no longer irresponsible; it’s malicious. Un-fucking-believable!
HumboldtBlue
We can still sing.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@James E Powell: Didn’t the Navajos get ravaged by the Virus last spring?
Jean
Remember when McConnell vowed to make President Obama a one-term president? He failed. Then We the People made Trump a one-term president. Success.
Sally
@Bill Arnold: So, foreign involvement/interference in US elections is now okey dokey. Got it.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@?BillinGlendaleCA: It’s sort of like the Republicans think the Corporate Weasel who screws the Marines over, then runs off and gets ganked by the xenomophs in Aliens is a role model.
Another Scott
The reality they construct in their heads is different from ours. “It’ like the flu” (when it isn’t). “If you’re healthy, then it’s no big deal” (except when it is). Etc.
They are bottom-of-the-barrel “professional” people who don’t think clearly, they don’t understanding science and evidence, and they don’t respect experts. They think that going along with whatever the narcissist-in-chief says is the absolute most important thing. That every problem can be “handled” by making appropriate mouth noises. Since Donnie survived after a few days in the hospital, they will too (except when they don’t).
It’s honestly the least surprising thing in the world that Meadows and the rest behave this way. It’s what they do.
Cheers,
Scott.
Aleta
Sebastian
@Bill Arnold:
This list with 101 is pretty good:
https://gregolear.substack.com/p/101-collaborators-treason-power-rankings
Citizen Alan
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I’ve said for years that most Republicans think that “A Christmas Carol” is a nightmarish Stephen King horror novel in which a successful and industrious man of business is terrorized by evil spirits into becoming a socialist.
Calouste
@Glyph2112: No good reason, but it probably just got sorted wrong. I had a package from Europe make a detour via Australia once.
Oklahomo
@Glyph2112: The last 5 years of consolidation to save money. Smaller sorting centers have been closed, and the equipment moved further away to large sorting centers. The areas served by these centers often cross state lines. This, of course, adds to the delay that people are noticing in day to day first class mail.
ETA: This also includes the machine known as the facer/canceler. Thus the out-of-state postmark.
Grover Gardner
@grandpa john: People are saying Trump will run again in 2024. I can’r believe his health will hold up that long. He’s already a twitchy, shambling mess.
Bill Arnold
@Sebastian:
That’s a long list, thanks. I think the list should be ordered, roughly, by (evilness * power * competence)
West of the Cascades
I’m torn between wanting an immediate pandemic relief package in the next two months (likely to be inadequate and contain poison pills like liability waivers for employers, no money for state/federal governments) and having Biden/Harris/Pelosi/Schumer prepare a ten-point plan (of things not in McTurtle’s proposal) to give Warnock and Ossoff something concrete to run on. “Vote for Ossoff/Warnock and get $2500, have your teaching and law enforcement salary paid by Washington until the pandemic is over, no evictions for all of 2021, and if you’re unemployed you get $600 per week for all of 2021.” Unemployed people in Georgia (6.4% currently) have plenty of time on their hands to register to vote and vote early (or absentee).
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
They think that money is the end all be all, rather than a method of payment for goods and service and that those with the most money are the smartest, bestest humans. And they are racists. So they really, really like the racist with money. Except of course he has none, nothing but the racism. No money, just debt, no brains, just mush, no charm, just racism and ignorance. He’s got that racism and ignorance in massive over abundance. And they aren’t bottom of the barrel, the are the scum under the barrel. The worms and slime that gathers under the rot.
Aleta
Bonnie
I wonder if there are plans to fumigate the White House before the Bidens go to reside there. I hope so.
Oklahomo
@Bonnie: An exorcism might not be a bad idea, either.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Aleta: You know the insane thing in this purge is even if Trump had won the election his presidency was going to collapse anyway.
Ruckus
@Grover Gardner:
I’m hopping that the stress of LOSING so publicly speeds up the decline that has become so obvious over the last 4 yrs. And that’s on top of the shitty start he had all those decades ago.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Grover Gardner: It’s not about him getting elected in 2024, it’s about fund raising off rallies and maintaining control of the national GOP so he can loot it.
NotMax
@Aleta
Related.
Ruckus
@Bonnie:
I think it wouldn’t be out of line that we all suggest it. Hazmat suits for all….
NotMax
@Ruckus
Stress eating resulting in a Mr. Creosote moment.
//
Kent
@James E Powell: How much of the Navajo reservation vote is in AZ vs NM?
That could be Biden’s margin of victory right there. Seriously. The Navajo could have given us AZ. It’s going to come down to an eyelash for sure.
Yutsano
@Sebastian: That list is way out of date. Lots to shuffle around and move to dishonourable mention status.
Oklahomo
@Kent:
Almost like someone shouldn’t have been calling Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas.”
Kent
@Oklahomo: Native Americans have been dealing with white men bringing them diseases for 528 years. I expect they are getting tired of it.
danielx
@Grover Gardner:
And still came closer to winning than I like to contemplate. If he runs in 2024 he’ll still get a lot of votes even if they have to prop him upright at his rallies.
cain
@Citizen Alan:
LOL – I really should steal that – so apt!
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@Oklahomo: Maybe sending PPE to the Navajo when they asked for help last spring, instead of the body bags…
lurker
Your failure to understand their callous indifference is a mark of your humanity. If you spend too much time staring into the abyss in an attempt to comprehend it, the abyss will seep into you and twist you into a shape you no longer recognize. Enlightened self interest and empathy are both valuable things, but spending too much time trying to understand obviously bad behavior is not worth the effort.
There may be people in your daily life who are hard to comprehend in a similar way, for whom some effort to influence them toward a better path is worth the effort. The distant people you only observe through news media are not worth wasting a lot of effort.
Mary G
Oklahomo
@Kent: And stealing from them. Our governor got into a spat with the various tribes here by trying to force a new compact on them after the old compact automatically renewed.
Oklahomo
@a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio: That too.
cain
@Bonnie:
I just think – ugh – that Joe has to sleep in the same bed Donald Trump masturbates to having sex with Ivanka.
Kent
A bit of late night irony.
My wife is a primary care physician who has been seeing a steep rise in covid patients in the past several weeks here in the Vancouver area, especially among her Hispanic population which is the focus of her practice. Mostly factory and food processing workers still. She mostly does virtual care now so she is reviewing and talking to patients who test positive over zoom, not in person.
Today she told me that one of her patients who tested positive works at a local biomed company that makes covid test kits. Yes, there’s a covid outbreak at the local covid test kit manufacturing facility. The had to shut it down temporarily to sanitize and quarantine their workforce.
Sigh. It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious.
cain
@Kent:
Definitely a form of dark humor.
NotMax
@James E Powell
Dare one venture to state those numbers say it seems they had no reservations about voting for Biden?
Eolirin
@NotMax: Get out. /s
Sebastian
@Bill Arnold:
Yes. I see Mnuchin missing on many lists. He is the money man. He had RUSSIANS work in the Treasury (wtf).
He must not slink away.
lurker
@cain: hoping (and reasonably sure) they can replace the bed. Or at least the mattress. But Biden likely has to be in the same room as Trump, just as Trump was in the same room as Obama, Bush the younger, Clinton, Bush the elder, Reagan, Carter – lots of history in that room. I forget how far back these things go, but I think the last serious renovation was over a hundred years ago.
Sebastian
@Yutsano:
It’s a full time job keeping track, isn’t it?
Agree on all points and see it more as a rich starting point.
cain
@lurker:
At least we know that there was no sexy times with Trump and his wife. Probably the first.
PJ
@lurker: in addition to having an incredibly detailed security sweep to remove all the listening devices and cameras foreign powers have installed, I would demand the deepest fucking deep clean of every inch of the White House and removal of all the hideous decor changes before the President and First Lady move in. Better to stay in Blair House for several weeks than to risk the disease and filth that Trump leaves behind.
JoyceH
@Grover Gardner:
My guess? That’s what they’re telling him as enticement to leave the White House. Just think – he won’t have to try to be interested in that boring old pandemic, or pretend to listen to those know-it-all doctors. He won’t be to blame when people get sick because he didn’t do anything. He won’t have to remember what piece of legislation he just agreed to sign for thirty minutes so he doesn’t throw those dreary Congressional negotiations into chaos. He can just fly around and hold rallies for his adoring fans. For four years!
That’s not really what’s going to happen – for one thing, nonstop rallies cost money, which he won’t have, the legal issues will eat up a lot of his time and his staff’s time, and once he’s a certified Loser his cult will move on. But they’re probably spinning these rosy fantasies to get him to accept that he’s going to have to move – and leave the Resolute desk behind, please!
Kent
@lurker: Last complete renovation was during Truman. The gutted it to the shell and rebuilt it over 3 years starting in 1950 because it was at the point of collapse. Truman lived and ran the government during that time from across the street in the Blair House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Reconstruction
briber
@lurker:
More like 70 years ago.
There was an extensive renovation that occured during the Truman administration. That is how the Truman Balcony came to be.
Mai Naem mobile
@Kent: the Native American vote has always been part of the strategy of any Dem who has to win statewide in AZ. I remember Janet Napolitano always had to weave together high turnout in Tucson+Southern AZ and the Navajo Rez and keep Maricopa competitive to win.
Pence did a photo op with McSally and Ducey forcing the Navajo Tribal Chair to show up like a third world tribal chief thanking the white Christian missionary for bringing medical supplies. This is after the state GOP went after “ballot harvesting” which is commonly done on the reservation because of transportation issues. I felt angry for the tribal chief, moreso when you consider that he could have been taking COVID back with him just because of a photo op for McSally and the WH.
CaseyL
68 million people voted to keep these sociopaths in office.
68 million out of 330 million is roughly one-fifth, or 20%.
I may never go to a large social gathering again, and not because of Covid.
Shantanu Saha
When you know how shitty you own people are, you tend not to have a lot of sympathy for them.
Shantanu Saha
@lurker:
The entire White House was gutted and reconstructed from the inside (only the exterior facade was kept) during the Truman administration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Reconstruction
patrick II
I wonder if the 400 people who attended the White House “victory” celebration with an unmasked Meadows were let in on the secret.
Kent
New Georgia ballot drop 6 min ago. Biden gains another 3,000 ballots. GA lead now 7,248
Drip drip drip…
the pollyanna from hell
Callous indifference fails at being concealed in case of gross stupidity, or when social pathology convinces the more intelligent criminals that they can get away with it. Lack of empathy by itself is a common deficiency that is not enough to create a monster.
Spanky
@patrick II: Yeah, they were. Tonight.
Baud
@Kent:
Holy cow. I was pretty confident about GA when it was a 4000 vote lead. This is amazing!
opiejeanne
@dmsilev: Some idiot joined a discussion about vote counting and claimed that no one in the media was talking about the pandemic any more, and got corrected, complete with links to articles and news clips from the 4th through today. People told him he needed to read WaPo for news and stop watching Fox.
prostratedragon
@Mary G: Kind of like Groundhog Day.
Joey Maloney
@danielx: M. K. Brown had our number, way back in 1974. Whistle Stop
JPL
@Kent: He’s gonna win GA and I’m still in shock.
Kent
@JPL: Georgia and AZ. Which is an even trade for FL
JPL
Why haven’t they called the election for Biden? GA would put him over the top according to Fox and AP. This is ridiculous.
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
Dems haven’t won Georgia in a 2 person race (excluding a Georgian on the ticket) since 1960.
SIXTY YEARS
Clinton won in 92 by 1/2 point, but Perot also got 13% of the vote.
Carter won in 76 and 80 but he was a favorite son and popular former governor of Georgia.
In 2000, Gore lost Georgia by 12 points. He lost the Atlanta suburbs of Gwinnett by 31 points and Cobb by 23% points. Today we’re winning Gwinnett by 18 points and Cobb by 14 points.
Fuck yeah!
raven
raven
@raven: Jody Hice and Doug Collins are using stop the steal on their twitter.
Platonicspoof
@Aleta:
Sweet Ivanka probably speaks from experience.
Sebastian
@Subsole:
Of course not but intelligence affects behavior and exposure.
Martin
So, let’s go back to Franks very insightful statement:
Conservatives are classists. There are some who are deserving, and some who are not. It not even necessarily malicious on their part. They oppose Medicare for All because they believe we can’t afford it, that in order for most of the population to have good healthcare, some of the population can’t have good healthcare, and rather than leave it to the state to identify those groups, they prefer a natural market-type approach, assuming that the people who they believe to be too lazy/dumb/malicious would lose out.
The problem is that once you take that as a core assumption, an inviolable law of nature, who you classify into this bin or that bin is very easily manipulated. So it can be gays (AIDS is Gods will), or POC, or the poor, or liberals, or immigrants, or whoever. So it’s not that conservative are necessarily racist, but it is that racism is so easily supported by their fundamental view of human nature and how societies form, so they latch onto it super easily.
I mean, this was the standard view of the founders. It’s why only white land owners could vote – the rest of the population couldn’t be trusted with it. It was a step forward from a king, but it was a far cry from what we have now (beware originalists for this reason). The civil rights brought blacks more into the fold, by then the land ownership thing had gone, but we were fine still denying women the right to vote, and we were fine tricking people out of those rights – literacy tests, etc. Lurch forward again to suffrage, then again to civil rights, and on and on.
What really came with the Obama era was Democrats really embracing that in a much more fundamental way. We started fighting for transgender rights even though there was no voting coalition to get out of it – something Democrats always insisted on. It was a move a political charity, because it was the right thing to do. Historically, Dems supported civil rights because it got them a voting bloc (ask any black voter), or unions because it got them electoral organizing, etc. And the GOP is similarly transactional, but Democrats really changed from 2008-2016. They started to really embrace intersectionality and started to move their policy views away from that kind of transactional approach.
Conservatives just cannot grasp that concept. There MUST be an ‘us’ and a ‘them’. ‘Them’ gets redefined with astonishing speed and ease, which is why I think so many are afraid of Trump. He can move you from ‘us’ to ‘them’ in the span of a few hours. You’re always at risk of being shut out, so you suck up. Democrats now foundationally just don’t have that concept. I mean, we do, because we all suck at being true to our own ideals, and we always fall short, but we try.
So they don’t really get bothered by the Covid deaths because in their worldview, someone has to die, and who dies is a function of who made bad choices. They own no responsibility. So yeah, we don’t get it. But we kind of need to get it if we want to figure out how to move forward, because we’re all just digging in deeper at this point.
JPL
@raven: A Fulton Cty elections official is in hiding because he tossed a piece of paper. The whackos said it was a ballot and printed out his address.
Martin
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: GA runoffs are going to be a lift.
The good news is that Biden/Harris can start shaping the narrative against which those elections take place. So, expect the ‘first 100 days’ talk to look VERY appealing to GA voters, and maybe not so much for those of us out west.
We need to just deal with that – the best way to help west coast Dems is to win those seats and if we have to temporarily give up a voice in the narrative to get that, we should do so.
Martin
@patrick II: Of course they weren’t.
JPL
@Martin: The militia has taken over the conservative party though.
ant
Start with the feeling you get when you start to tell a bad lie, or when you shoplift, or cheat someone.
Then realize that some people are unable to feel this feeling. They just don’t.
They do not FEEL guilt, or remorse, or regret. Ever. Never have since childhood.
They still have a moral compass, but it is missing tools the rest of us have to calibrate it. They just simply use logic, in the context of their own interests.
Solving collective action problems is a concept they are unable to understand. It’s how, for example a women can care very deeply about her own son, but not really care do U, about someone else’s son that they do not know personally.
They all habitually tell lies, and can pass lie detection tests with ease.
Somehow, Tang-face has figured out how to convince these people to vote – something that does not come naturally to them.
Pollsters are having a difficult time figuring out what these people intend from their answers in the questions surveyors ask. Because they are lying – something they learned to do at a very early age to hide the fact that people notice that they are different, and that they freak people out.
These people are Psychopaths/Sociopaths. And they are everywhere, living in the closet.
JPL
@ant: Why so many though
Sally
For any rugby aficionados the All Blacks are one man down (red card) and I can hear my husband shouting in the next room but one, “send him ****** off” etc amid many other expletives. Use be a very physical game.
Amir Khalid
I think I get it. These Republicans have turned stoicism inside out: setting aside one’s own suffering, as a mark of fortitude, has been transformed into callous indifference to others’ suffering, as a display of manly toughness.
bjacques
It’s exactly what I expect from Lord Hee Haw.
Martin
@JPL: Not really. I mean, the conservative party is where the militias live, but they’re tiny. Adam would remind us they are a stochastic threat, not a civil war threat. And they’re cowards – they talk of revolution and tyranny and all that and they do nothing. Yes, they get bolder – the Philly incident last night, the kidnapping plot in MI – but those efforts are usually sufficiently incompetent to get caught pretty quickly.
But that is certainly part of how that works for them. It’s why gun ownership is protected for some but not others. Their fundamental view of the world is that they are at best a slight majority party – because as soon as it starts to get big, they are required to toss people out of it. Conservatism is antithetical to ‘big tent’.
Threat of violence allows them to operate as a minority group. Always been that way. But it works best when kept as a threat. Conservatism would be in a world of hurt if the militias chose to act on those threats because the Dems that would turn out on the streets to push back would be a force in the millions, and they don’t have that much ammo. We haven’t had any more hijackings in the US because it took all of 20 minutes for that to be an effective strategy until Flight 22 passengers, understanding the calculus chose to take down the hijackers. In Kenosha, we took on a guy with an AR-15 with skateboards. Unarmed people chased down a dude with an AR-15, because they figured they could die either way – might as well try and stop him. What happens when 75 million people come to the same conclusion?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Citizen Alan:
Republicans pretend to idolize George Bailey, but really admire and yearn to be Old Man Potter.
Although, I think Pottersville seems A LOT more fun than Bedford Falls.
ant
@JPL:
Leaded gasoline burned between 1940-1980
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@cain:
So much hate for you right now.
piratedan
@JPL: i think the roots are in many things, so much of our society is in a state of change… take for example how America itself has evolved over the last 50 years… we’ve seen the decline in religion, family farms, small manufacturing businesses… the advent of technology, more ability to cater to our personal whims and desires, connectivity to society no longer has to be within your community, but can rather be thru the web via personal interest and not be location based…
all of these changes can allow us to feel both connected and disconnected if you take my meaning and its how something halfway across the world can go viral and touch millions and how something right next door can feel more like a statistic instead of a local community loss event because our sense of what comprises a community is evolving.
we’re in the process of seeing this transformation take place in our cities and the burbs and for the people who do not see and use and experience these new ways of connecting, it’s as if we’re aliens to them..
for example, us having this discussion here, online, in the dead of night…. fifty years ago, maybe this discussion is being held in a quiet, smoky bar instead, with a few carefully vetted friends who were more or less on the same wavelength… now we have this conversation both in the real-time now and for those tens, hundreds of folks who follow this thread in their own time and will add and substract to the discussion as they see fit, helping us shape these ideas and consume them and apply them.
Baud
@piratedan: I agree.
ant
I realize that what I’m proposing here won’t be very popular. People (including myself) don’t want think about the possibility that they have brain damage basically. But for those of us who are able to acknowledge that we perhaps aren’t perfect, we may find thinking about it to be useful.
https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/pollution-environment/lead-exposure-antisocial-behavior-teens/
Quaker in a Basement
That’s an easy one. They believe their own bullshit. They lie about the severity of Covid to try to prop up to economy to prop up their poll numbers. Then as they keep maneuvering to keep this lie afloat, they convince themselves it’s true.
rikyrah
@James E Powell:
???????
rikyrah
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Yes, they did??
Quaker in a Basement
@James E Powell: They broke the Crazification Factor.
rikyrah
@Grover Gardner:
Let the GOP have at it.
JPL
@ant: What happened in Flint, MI is criminal.
rikyrah
@Kent:
That would be something?
rikyrah
@patrick II:
??????
rikyrah
@Kent:
Yesss?????
rikyrah
@JPL:
I admit… I am too?
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
When you combine CNN and MSNBC that’s 11 million viewers to Fox’s 5.5 million. Biden/Harris voters are watching, waiting for the tipping point, while Dump’s voters have their fingers in their ears, going “la, la, la, la, la, I can’t hear you”.
Frankensteinbeck
I would love to win Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia, but they’re icing on the cake, now. Biden has gained votes in the only section of the Pennsylvania vote that he might have lost them. Biden has won, and the news media needs to stop hand wringing and admit it.
As for the OP, they’re assholes and will lie to themselves about even their own safety because what they Want is more important. Certainly nobody else’s safety is relevant. But maybe that’s what you can’t understand, John. From what I can tell, you always cared about doing the right thing for others, and you flipped to Democrat when you got smacked in the face hard enough with which party does, and which doesn’t. But some people see what they Want, and never move past that thought.
JPL
@piratedan: That does make a lot of sense.
rikyrah
Dear Cole,
You are a good and decent human being.
They are not.
It really IS that simple?
Frankensteinbeck
Oh! I know how to describe it that may make sense. You know that ‘fuck you’ feeling? Imagine that as your base state of being. That’s Republicanism and especially the White House.
MagdaInBlack
I/Thou vs I/It relationship to others, John.
To them, everyone else is an “It.”
prostratedragon
“Boogie Woogie Waltz,” Zawinul/Weather Report
germy
Ksmiami
@Sebastian: the great culling of 2020… dying for Der Leader
trnc
You would think I would stop being surprised at this, but as many bad behaviors DT’s supporters have excused, I cannot fucking believe how many people voted for him after he cheered for a bus full of people being run off the road.
Ksmiami
@CaseyL: Silly Casey in a few weeks or months their numbers will be reduced.. ?covid
Ksmiami
@Citizen Alan: I seriously doubt if any of them have read Adam Smith or Keynes. They all have no clue how economics work
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
@Citizen Alan:
Nah, they think “Christmas Carol” is an Norwegian escort
Caracal
@grandpa john: Not enough
SiubhanDuinne
@Bill Arnold:
I’d like to see those three factors laid out as a Venn diagram. The set intersections would be fun to visualise.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Yup. And Mr. Potter is the real hero of It’s A Wonderful Life. And A Christmas Carol is a tragedy because Scrooge turns from a heartless greedy bastard into a nice guy.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Citizen Alan: I see you got there first vis a vis Dickens.
zhena gogolia
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Oh, and now I hate you for making me go look at his comment, which I missed the first time through.
Uncle Cosmo
Wrong.
Completed <70 years ago. You could’ve looked it up – it took me all of 45 seconds before I had my first cup of coffee – but you didn’t.
(ETA: Kent at #77, briber at #78 and Shantanu Saha at #82 got there foist.)
Ramalama
@Dopey-o: Did not know this, but now I do! Thanks for the heads up. Also, olafactory is one of my favorite words. I picture a mustachioed man in some Spanish speaking town / country walking in to greet his workers, “!Hola factory”
Skepticat
It. Is. No. Big. Deal. On my way south, I’ve stopped to spend time with friends in Virginia. A friend from Massachusetts drove down with me (I can’t see well after dark and thus shouldn’t be driving) and stayed a couple of days. We each had a COVID-19 test before leaving New England just to put my Virginian friends’ minds at ease. I’ll be required to have another test to get into The Bahamas, a requirement I strongly support. I also have another new package of 50 n95 masks. As I’ve said a number of times before, I wish we could rely on Darwin to take care of the mask deniers, but I worry about the innocents they’ll infect. Stay safe, y’all.
SFAW
@James E Powell:
Well, it’s not as if they’re REAL Americans.
SFAW
@Kent:
Drip drip drip…
Or, per Yarrow: “Drip drip drip motherfucker”
The Moar You Know
School district next to mine, parents have been sending KNOWN COVID positive kids to school. A couple of those kids had to be taken out by ambulance; these kids didn’t have the sniffles. So now, following some parent-sponsored Halloween parties where several hundred unmasked kids showed up and got blind drunk, most of the district is shut down. (Those parents ARE getting charged for both the underage drinking thing and the large assembly thing). The district is going to try again in two weeks. That should go even worse.
I think those parents who knowingly sent their positive kids to school ought to be charged with attempted murder.