German Der Spiegel’s take on outcome of #USElection2020 on right below.
Trump cover from 2017. pic.twitter.com/qTkCXVx7CK— Theresa Fallon (@TheresaAFallon) November 7, 2020
Live your life in such a way that the entire planet doesn’t dance in the street when you lose your job
— Jason (@longwall26) November 7, 2020
World leaders congratulated Democrat Joe Biden and his running mate Kamala Harris on their presidential election victory https://t.co/iSAEwSODB8 pic.twitter.com/BFgMzwnCRT
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 8, 2020
Kim Jong-un is busy writing Trump a "Dear John Barron" letter.
— Daily Trix (@DailyTrix) November 8, 2020
The game of which international leaders are immediately congratulating Biden and which are not is quite entertaining this time around
— Ishaan Tharoor (@ishaantharoor) November 7, 2020
Former French ambassador to the U.S. @GerardAraud just told me, “Every single European leader has had an appalling conversation with Trump. He insulted Merkel, he insulted May. He attacked them. It was surreal. And it’s over.” https://t.co/MtsYJfGPoj
— Elian Peltier (@ElianPeltier) November 7, 2020
Now every world leader can hit ‘send tweet’ on that post they’ve had in their drafts folder all week.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@TheRealHoarse) November 7, 2020
Congratulations @JoeBiden on your spectacular victory! As the VP, your contribution to strengthening Indo-US relations was critical and invaluable. I look forward to working closely together once again to take India-US relations to greater heights. pic.twitter.com/yAOCEcs9bN
— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) November 7, 2020
Nice. Still nothing from Putin. And note that by "Russia" here, Navalny always means the country and its people, not cooperating with Putin and his gang of thieves who happen to be in charge. https://t.co/ZDcZfrGPwB
— Mig Greengard (@chessninja) November 8, 2020
I express my heartfelt congratulations to you, my friend, President-elect @JoeBiden for your victory. I sincerely hope and pray that the free world under your leadership will witness more peace and prosperity.
— Masoud Barzani (@masoud_barzani) November 7, 2020
Why do I imagine Boris prone on the embassy doormat, shouting frantically through the letter slot?
Congratulations @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris pic.twitter.com/xrpE99W4c4
— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) November 7, 2020
Saudi king and crown prince congratulate @JoeBiden on his #Election2020 victory. https://t.co/LxHmYonCcB
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) November 8, 2020
One of the biggest losers of Trump’s defeat is MBS. There was vigorous bipartisan support to sanction him for his for his role in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. The only person standing in the way was Trump. When Trump is gone, I’m sure the issue will come back up. https://t.co/VRAXLuNe4N
— Bill Browder (@Billbrowder) November 8, 2020
Iraq’s president https://t.co/UqKJhEEsSo
— Olivier Knox (@OKnox) November 7, 2020
I want to congratulate the new President Elect of the USA @JoeBiden Joe Biden has been a true friend of this nation throughout his life and I look forward to working with him in the years ahead. I also look forward to welcoming him back home when the circumstances allow! ???? ????
— Micheál Martin (@MichealMartinTD) November 7, 2020
We’re already besties with Canada again. https://t.co/PVAUvm8jBf
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@TheRealHoarse) November 7, 2020
Now it is my turn to extend congratulations to @JoeBiden & @KamalaHarris on being elected President & VP-elect. The values on which we have built our relationship could not be stronger. I look fwd to working together to further our friendship, & contributions to int’l society. https://t.co/xIvit7emjH
— ??? Tsai Ing-wen (@iingwen) November 8, 2020
Says the Polish president who proposed to name a military base in his country “Fort Trump”… https://t.co/eYqc2fwTzi
— Jackson Diehl (@JacksonDiehl) November 7, 2020
Bibi finally acknowledges reality https://t.co/ZVP1PIBv7b
— 7??3?? Days Until Trump Is Gone?? (@snowmanomics) November 8, 2020
Argentina, presente! https://t.co/YuOEeNN7LN
— Mig Greengard (@chessninja) November 8, 2020
World leaders are like "Friendship ended with Donald, now Joe is my best friend."
— 7??3?? Days Until Trump Is Gone?? (@snowmanomics) November 8, 2020
As a Japanese diplomat said at a roundtable last year, for US partners and allies, presidential elections are like birthday presents: whatever you’re given, you have to say “that’s great, it’s exactly what I always wanted”. https://t.co/OILjqwNMTy
— Ben Bland (@benjaminbland) November 8, 2020
Will grudgingly respect the first hostile nation to offer Donald a government in exile and reality show on state TV.
— Starfish Who Just Wants To Grill (@IRHotTakes) November 8, 2020
bless your heart sir please do more tweets https://t.co/aiA5qEHWkF
— kilgore trout, tucker carlson’s mailman (@KT_So_It_Goes) November 7, 2020
There was some expectation that foreign leaders would wait until a Trump concession before congratulating Biden. The fact so many didn’t speaks to the momentum behind Biden and foreign assessments of Trump’s legal arguments.
— Adam Taylor (@mradamtaylor) November 7, 2020
And speaking of hostile factions…
Former President George W. Bush: “I just talked to the President-elect of the United States, Joe Biden. I extended my warm congratulations and thanked him for the patriotic message he delivered last night…” pic.twitter.com/wENHUJ2AhH
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) November 8, 2020
Wag
Sucks to be Trump. Bullies get dropped ASAP when their power is broken.
I guess he’ll always have Putin… if Vlad will have the loser
IThink
Big congratulations and God love him and the whole ticket with their extended fam up and down; it is truly Biden’s finest hour on the planet this far! I’m already sleeping better???…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Dear Your Ex-excellency….
guachi
Bush at least has some class and sense of what being President means. I didn’t like Bush because of his policies and execution of his policies, not because he was some obviously failed human being.
PsiFighter37
@guachi: Well, I didn’t like him because he’s an idiot. But Trump has set the bar so much lower that Dubya seems like a rocket scientist in comparison.
Chetan Murthy
I have friends in France and Denmark with whom I’ve spoken at length in the last week: they both tell me that everyone they know is breathing a sign of relief, both for themselves, and for all Americans. It’s surely the case that the leaders of our allies and friends overseas, could not speak their hearts while Shitler was in power, b/c they had to protect their people. But it is equally sure that the *people* of these countries were pulling for us, praying for us, hoping for us.
tokyokie
@guachi: I never thought the day would dawn on which George W. Bush and Mitt Romney would be the most decent prominent figures in the Republican Party.
LeftCoastYankee
Mexico is waiting until Trump’s lawsuits are dismissed… or until they can get those phony charges for “The Wall” off their account.
Kay
@Chetan Murthy:
My son’s in Copenhagen and he said it was really celebratory. They’re all dragged down and discouraged with covid too. He thinks it was a bright spot for everyone.
PsiFighter37
NYT pushing a puff piece that Ben Smith wrote about Maggie Haberman. Looks like the media’s turn at introspection is to basically give each other handjobs about how well stenographers have done their jobs the past 4 years. Fuck her.
scott (the other one)
@PsiFighter37: Well, I didn’t like him because he’s an idiot and a war criminal. But Trump has set the bar so much lower that Dubya seems like a rocket scientist in comparison.
guachi
If I were the Mexican President I’d buy a copy of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” and mail it to Trump.
scott (the other one)
@tokyokie: And GWB holds precisely zero sway with GOP voters these days. Trippy to consider, when you think about the adulation they had for him between 2002-2007.
Baud
@PsiFighter37: “Yay! We didn’t ratfuck an election this year!”
Aleta
The WSJ says Biden has 290 votes and has won Ariz. (But not the NYT or the Post. ) Nate Cohn 7:07 PM “Trump now trails by just 0.51 points in Arizona.”
Kay
@guachi:
I think the word is overused but it really does goes back to privilege. These are the most entitled spoiled brats in the world. No one ever told them “no”. It’s kind of horrifying to watch, as a parent, that you could possibly raise people like this. Just rampaging thru the world, making demands, leaving wreckage in their wake. I WANT. One long tantrum.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I know a lot of his base thinks if the Euroweenies and other furrinners don’t like him, it’s a badge of honor. But you know it’s driving him crazy, every tweet from every world leader is a stab in his narcissism.
LeftCoastYankee
@scott (the other one):
I once thought Reagan was as dumb as a president could be. Then came W. Then the Toddler.
I’m not looking forward to the Monkey Throwing Shit 2024 campaign.
Al Z.
fuck bush
PsiFighter37
@Aleta: Biden should win as the last batch of Maricopa ballots went to him. It will certainly be skinny, but he will pull it out.
Georgia is basically in the bag – a recount won’t overturn a 10k lead.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Chetan Murthy:
In several conversations with Europeans during this administration, they admitted being very cautious when talking to Americans till they could ascertain whether they are pro-Trump or not.
I remember the feelings of despair when Bush was re-elected in 2004, but Trump has managed to chase out my mind my memory of why I hated him and especially Cheney so much.
During the Bush era I remember a conversation with a waitress in Italy I think, at a cafe we’d been hanging out at during our stay. We told her that we were Americans, but we hadn’t wanted to admit it. “Why?” she asked. “Because we’re ashamed that there are criminals running our country”. “Oh”, she laughed, “now you’re just like the rest of us.”
So I remember saying stuff like that. And now those people look good in our memory.
Kay
@Aleta:
Yay! I think that’s a big win, in terms of expanding the map. I’m also amused that these cowards at the AP and Fox actually called it correctly but didn’t have enough confidence in their own work to stand behind it.
No guts, no glory. If they had stuck by the call and then called Nevada they could have saved us all a lot of misery.
HumboldtBlue
@tokyokie:
No shit.
p.a.
@scott (the other one): Conservatism cannot fail. It can only be failed.
Saints’ throwback road unis tonight are awesome.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@LeftCoastYankee: Let’s see if the QAnon lady throws her hat in the ring. Maybe with Giuliani as campaign manager.
Belafon
Ceci n est pas mon nym
So here’s how the transition’s going: GSA is refusing to let it start.
Raoul Paste
Et tu, MBS?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Aleta: AZ is looking to be real close, but it’s looking better for Biden.
Baud
@p.a.: Holy shit! The score. What did they put in Drew Brees’s Wheaties?
rikyrah
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PsiFighter37: Agree.
LeftCoastYankee
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Wow… so Monkey Throwing Shit is overqualified now?
Baud
@PsiFighter37: It’s nice not to be forced to care.
rikyrah
So, I get an email from HR that I was exposed to COVID-19 on OCTOBER 21- PHUCKING 18 DAYS AGO.
how the phuck is this contact tracing???
Can’t go back to work until I get a test, and the earliest appointment I have found is for THURSDAY ???
TO just get the damn test
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: Well, at least Joe Biden wouldn’t have had to hang out in the Chase Center parking lot for 2 days.
dmsilev
So, apparently Trump’s strategy to pull victory from the jaws of defeat is …to hold more rallies, along with all the inane lawsuits. I’m guessing that’s a ‘keep the toddler occupied and busy’ strategy from what passes as competent campaign staff.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: if I had to hear one more Steve Kornacki dissertation on the breakdown of subdivisions in Maricopa County…
Kay
I don’t have cable anymore but I watched Biden’s speech on CNN – on my phone, I assume it was free- and I genuinely appreciate how clear and honest and blunt Jake Tapper has been.
I thank him for this level of clarity. I am so, so tired of people talking in circles.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I hope he’s not still doing that. No one could possibly be watching anymore.
dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Look, with all the cutbacks in education, we had to find some way of teaching geography.
Searcher
You know, I’m really looking forward to the next event, post pandemic presumably, where all the ex-Presidents are brought out in a show of Statesmanship.
Will Trump be invited? Will he show up? If he’s in prison will he get to dial in? Will he just sit sullenly in the corner while everyone else jokes and reminisces? Will Bush have to pretend to hang out with him as a fellow Republican?
Aleta
@dmsilev: Wait, not just any old rallies. Rallies where he will wave (read?) obituaries of dead people who voted. (Axios)
eta correction: He might do the obits outside of the rallies.
Alison Rose
@PsiFighter37: I’ve said “Rhodes scholar” in place of rocket scientist, but yes, this.
Also, at least W seemed to have some self-awareness. I don’t recall him ever claiming to be a genius, unless I’ve blocked it from memory.
Plus, he had dogs. So he scores one over Trump on the “human” scale, at least.
Kay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I’m more interested in Biden than I was. The pundits I watched said (basically) that the speech was “normal” (which is fine- it was normal in the sense that it wasn’t an insane list of grievances) but I don’t think it was “normal”. I have not seen that level of what looked like genuine humility in a President before. I think he might be more “different” than we thought. In a good way. I think he has a real sense of the peril we’re in, how hard what’s ahead of him will be. I was comforted by that. I wanted a recognition of what he’s up against, and I think I got it.
Alison Rose
@guachi: LOLOLOLOLOLOL
dmsilev
@Aleta: Well, I’m convinced …
Auntie Anne
@rikyrah: Moi aussi!
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@LeftCoastYankee: It will be a pretty tight primary at least. Debates ought to be interesting.
dmsilev
@Alison Rose: And Bush had reasonably normal relationships with his wife and kids.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: I watched MSNBC’s coverage of Biden and Harris’ speeches and Nicolle Walace was commenting on normal the Biden/Harris families looked.
Amir Khalid
There’s been idle talk of Trump self-exiling to, say, Saudi Arabia, citing the fact that Idi Amin was accepted there after he fell from power in Uganda. Well, Idi Amin was Muslim — not particularly devout, but still — and that must had something to do with it. This is pure speculation on my part, but if Trump manages to evade prosecution by fleeing to the Kingdom, might His Majesty (or his Royal Highness the Crown Prince) exact a conversion from Trump as the price of asylum?
Kay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
The bragging and minimizing Trump and his employees do is not the sort of thing that makes me confident in their ability to “handle things”. It has the opposite effect. I think “do they NOT KNOW how bad this is!?”
Biden struck me as grave – serious- which I think is rational and appropriate but is not how I had thought of him before. That cartoon everyone loves on the internet “this is FINE” – that to me is the Trump people. Biden knows it’s not fine. I know it’s not fine too. I can handle that it’s not fine. What I can’t handle is the sense of unreality when no one will admit it.
Bill Arnold
He … has a history. For reference, in case anyone is wondering about “Hammer” and “Scorecard”.
Infamous ‘Hoax’ Artist Behind Trumpworld’s New Voter Fraud Claim – He tricked the Bush administration into thinking he could detect terrorist signals in al Jazeera broadcasts. Now Dennis Montgomery had a new set of believers. (Will Sommer, Nov. 08, 2020)
Mai Naem mobile
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: a nice strongly bigly beautiful letter no doubt.
@Aleta:
@Kay: i think the networks planned to call the race when Donnie was on the golf course. In AZ Biden is ahead ~17K with ~75K left to count with <20K coming from Donnie friendly places. Even the Donnie friendly areas are coming in at 65/35. If it wasn’t Donnie who has to be treated special, AZ would have been called Friday.
SFAW
And it will be blocked by Mitch McConnell, because Demon-rats.
Alison Rose
@dmsilev: If by “reasonably normal” you mean “actually seemed to like them and didn’t look at his daughters the way one would look at a pole dancer” then yes indeed.
Matt McIrvin
How long do you think Republicans in Congress hold out on denying that Biden is President (or President-elect)?
They can’t actually block certification of the electors, since Dems control the House, and to decertify a challenged elector requires an independent vote of each house (a straight vote, not the weird statewise thing they do in a contingent election).
Kay
@Mai Naem mobile:
I’m holding a grudge on the slow calls. I’ll get over it. I think we have bigger problems than cowardly election calls. However. “Decision Desk”, which I had never heard of before now, is my new favorite company. They stand by their work.
These people have to be brave! They must! They have to stop failing us! Buck up, assholes. We’re in for a rough ride.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: End of the final lawsuit or at the time the results are certified.
phdesmond
@Kay:
he may have a feeling that he will die in the saddle of the presidency, like Lincoln, after bringing the long national crisis to an end.
Matt McIrvin
@guachi: Unfortunately the current President of Mexico seems to be a complete weirdo who did exactly what Trump is currently doing when he lost an earlier election. Spurious claims of fraud, ludicrous legal challenges, rallies to proclaim him “Legitimate President” after which he set up his own fake cabinet. He probably regards Trump as a kindred spirit.
dmsilev
@Alison Rose: Yeah, that’s basically what I was getting at. Don’t get me wrong, Bush was a horrible President in many many ways, but at least he has a few redeeming values.
Kay
@phdesmond:
Oh, that’s sad. I don’t pretend to be the whole country but when I’m in a crisis I want people to behave like I’m in one. I expect him to act like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders, because he does.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: Biden’s been in DC since the Nixon administration, he knows how things are supposed to work and he’s able to recognize when they don’t. And they don’t now.
Punchy
@Belafon: I was told there was a law that required a transition team. Is she breaking the law, or is that law only enforceable after the Electoral College does its thing?
Aleta
@Kay: How many more clicks and viewers, and how much increased ad money, result each day we wait to hear the last few states called, I wonder. I know I’m still checking the numbers 1-2x a day at a couple of places. (NYT this afternoon: “Fox News’s audience plummeted yesterday after Biden became president-elect.” )
Kristine
I doubt I’ll ever forget the reporter from iirc England who said that the spontaneous parades/dancing in the streets that occurred after Biden was declared the winner was the sort of thing seen when a dictator was deposed.
Matt McIrvin
…note, too, after AMLO pulled all that crap, he came back and won. Take it as a warning.
Bill Arnold
@PsiFighter37:
I skimmed it, but only because there was hope that she was leaving the NYTimes. No luck, and a waste of over 100 heartbeats.
The paper is pretty good, if one entirely excludes their politics team. I like the data projects in particular; top stuff.
Ian
@LeftCoastYankee:
In the name of the honor of monkeys everywhere I demand you take that back.
piratedan
because it’s Donald Trump, and because of his family, I fully expect him to try more unbelievable shit to try and “prove” he didn’t lose the election. This biggest hurdle for him now is that he’s now split Fox News in twain… there are those who toe the corporate line sent down by Mr. Murdoch who have essentially cut him adrift. Then there are still an intrinsically whacked coalition of true-believers who don’t believe that Trump has failed, he can only be failed…
so while the OANN faithful still persist and lend their voices to his cause, they’ll do their best to try and create a social cataclysm to justify whatever the hell they think might play, even if it means relocating the federal government to four seasons landscaping. The part I find so dangerous is how easily the MSM is giving the soapbox back to the very people who couldn’t stop Trump from taking over their very own party as if the Dems should be magnanimous to give them a seat at the table, which was never ever pro-offered when they were in charge.
so many apologists getting so much airtime and on cue, before Joe has had a chance to consume a bag of cheetos, our other erstwhile allies on the left are saying that we must cater to them before we even have picked a venue…. so we got that going for us…
We all have started the process of trying to figure out what is wrong with our messaging and the more that I sit and ponder on it the more I see two prevalent thoughts… Dem messaging is unfortunately aimed at people like us, assumptions made that when facts are presented and truths told, that we’ll come to more or less agree with the Dem position… and Dem messaging needs to be different and be modified to present DEM ideals as if it was dressed up in GOP framing…
by that I mean something like social security for example…
you’ve paid into it for years
you’re employer has paid into it for years…
it’s your money, it’s not an entitlement… you’ve earned it, you deserve it, its yours
now they want to stop your employer from having to pay anything, leaving you holding the bag to cover up for Rich People, who don’t need it, but they’re STILL trying to steal YOUR money…
You NEVER see an ad from Dems like this pointing out who is fucking with SS and who stands to benefit.
The other part of messaging is this… as we sit right now… there are 2 full fledged program running RW channels (Fox and OANN), multiple conservative shock jocks with hundreds of radio feeds on AM and FM and streaming on the internet, oodles of social media mega-sites that all tilt Conservative.
There is absolutely no mechanism currently in place to counter this amount of propaganda in place and to ignore that it exists and its influence in setting the narratives strikes me as naïve and this is the one thing that has me stumped beyond words is to how to counter this narrative and essential thought programming that has essentially captured 45% of our country, because they’re scared, lazy, uneasy, bigoted or bullies… or any combination thereof.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Bill Arnold: A fellow photographer sent me a message on FB about that, told him it was a load of malarkey.
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
That would be poetic, wouldn’t it?
Sebastian
@Amir Khalid:
No nation except Russia would dare offer him exile. No one in their sane mind would provoke the United States in such a fashion.
As Americans we are aware of our inner conflicts and how hard it would be to launch a sustained military action. Citizens of other countries don’t know that, all they see is aircraft carriers, an invincible air force, an endless arsenal of missiles, helicopters, tanks, money, and capable allies like Germany, France, and England.
And before the first shot is fired crippling economic and diplomatic sanctions.
No, no hiding for Trump. Handing him over is a million times more valuable than hiding him.
Except for Vladi. His calculation is different.
dmsilev
@Punchy: What the law says is that the transition process officially starts once she determines that the election has been decided. That’s the part she’s dragging her feet on. I imagine that if she drags it out more than another couple of days, House Oversight will drag her in for uncomfortable questions.
phdesmond
@Amir Khalid:
i am reminded of the French king Henry IV’s alleged statement about converting from Protestantism so as to mount the French throne:
“Paris is worth a Mass.”
Ruckus
@Kay:
Do you think one of them could define the word earn?
Punchy
@dmsilev: Ok! Thanks for the info!
Aleta
@Kay: I feel good about his many years in DC for that reason (how hard the situation, how high the stakes), because he already has connections to and experience with people who (I hope) can assist him. How well he’ll handle all the mixed motives I have no idea of course. I hope his experiences under Obama will help.
Amir Khalid
@Sebastian:
I am not offering it as a plausible scenario; I’m well aware that it isn’t.
Another Scott
@dmsilev: Indeed.
To elaborate, GovExec:
Donnie refusing to concede could throw a monkey wrench in the process.
(The Continuing Resolution expires midnight Friday December 11.)
Cheers,
Scott.
Amir Khalid
@SiubhanDuinne:
And Trump wouldn’t have to give up anything but bacon in his cheeseberders.
Ruckus
@Punchy:
As I understand it the transition team doesn’t have to be approved until Jan 6, giving them 2 weeks till inauguration. It obviously would be easier to have 2 months but then these assholes are going to make it as hard as possible, simply because they are all assholes.
Another Scott
@Another Scott:
Cheers,
Scott.
Kayla Rudbek
@Amir Khalid: since he doesn’t have any real belief in Christianity from what I can tell, and he would have the opportunity to have up to four wives if he converted, I don’t think that he would hesitate to convert if that was the price for asylum
Uncle Cosmo
@Matt McIrvin: Who is “AMLO”?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Uncle Cosmo:
Andrés Manuel López Obrador, current President of Mexico
Felanius Kootea
@Uncle Cosmo: Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, president of Mexico.
Aleta
@Bill Arnold: Yet opinion writers at the WSJ are calling for all-digital elections (as the solution to what? — no instant results?). They blame those messy paper ballots. It’s another national issue happening on the local level. In NC a Board of Elections of only 5 people were able to vote 3-2 to approve a last minute switch to a type of voting machines that “election security advocate Susan Greenhalgh said (were) substantially different from the ones approved in August.”
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Aleta:
I’m confused. What exactly is a “summary” in this context? I voted on an electronic machine in Ohio and there was a paper printout that showed who/what I voted for so I could verify my choices, along with a barcode
mrmoshpotato
Awww…..all of America’s allies are like, “Is Biden President yet? When is the Soviet shitpile mobster manbaby gone?”
Sebastian
@Amir Khalid:
A buddy of mine humored me recently with the idea of DJT hiding in Saudi Arabia and the US declaring war and rolling in with one unit being exclusively Muslim Americans accompanied by Islamic religious leaders.
mrmoshpotato
“The law firm of Hangover, Hangover, Divorce and Meat Sweats.” -John Oliver
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
Never ever happen, as the KSA wouldn’t let Jared and Ivanka in.
AnotherBruce
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I think they should be ignored. It’s a waste of paste to even listen to their stupid shit.
Dan B
@Alison Rose: Bush 2 is very intelligent. Karl Rove found Bush after a failed election in Texas. W spoke like a New England policy need. Rove coached him in the fake Texas drawl and to come across as a good ole boy who would be fun to hang with – have a beer, crack some un-pc jokes.
W is very intelligent. Don’t fall for Rove’s brand.
Burnspbesq
If Trump bugs out to avoid prosecution, I still think Dubai is his most likely destination.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Gods, at lest Marcon won’t have to practice his handshake with French special forces members for the next summit.
rikyrah
@piratedan:
Folks get it.
There was a tweet yesterday, of a grandmother crying when Biden was announced.
The family member asked her why she was crying.
” Because Social Security and Medicare are safe.”
They should use that in an ad
Arclite
G. W. Bush as the “mature, adult Republican.” Who would have guessed? It’s all relative.
Arclite
Given how many times Poland has been invaded, and how close they are to Russia, it’s hard to blame them for being pragmatic regarding Trump.
Woodrow/asim
Thank You for Saying This.
Also: I think a lot of Bush’s issues were about listening/giving into to assholes (I mean, who lets the head of the VP selection committee chose himself?), and not using his own discernment. In other words, he’s the prototypical modern GOP Politician, just with enough self-awareness to occasionally act like a real human.