Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

The words do not have to be perfect.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

This blog will pay for itself.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

People are complicated. Love is not.

An almost top 10,000 blog!

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Oh, BTW, Biden Won the Presidency Again Today

Oh, BTW, Biden Won the Presidency Again Today

by | 79 Comments

This post is in: ,

This is so absurd that we are still tip-toeing around the fact that Biden won:

Joe Biden will win Georgia, CNN projected Friday, striking at the heart of what has been a Republican presidential stronghold for nearly three decades. The former vice president is the first Democratic nominee to triumph in Georgia since Bill Clinton did it in 1992.

Biden’s victory adds 16 electoral votes to his tally, bringing him to 306 — matching President Donald Trump’s 2016 total. With CNN’s projection that Trump will win North Carolina, the final tally is 306-232, a landslide for the President-elect, who flipped five states and a congressional district in Nebraska from red to blue in 2020.

The symmetry provides the President with yet another bitter pill to swallow. Trump has spent years tweeting and talking up his margin of victory against Hillary Clinton — one that has now been turned on its head in a final, national rebuke of his presidency.

And he won by 5 million plus more votes- more even than Reagan vs. Carter, which used to be short hand for asskickings.

Another thing that has been pissing me off is the way people are framing the House election- “We lost seats.” Christ on a crutch, Democrats suck at framing things. We didn’t lose anything. Every two years every single house seat is up for grabs, and this year, like two years ago, we grabbed the majority. We didn’t lose anything. We just didn’t win as many seats as we did in 2018.

So in 2020, we won the House, we clobbered the Republicans in the Presidency, and we can still win the Senate. That’s pretty fucking good.

Reader Interactions

79Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    – “We lost seats.” Christ on a crutch, Democrats suck at framing things

    That’s not the Dems.  That’s people who want to criticize Dems to persuade them to change their approach in some way.

  4. 4.

    HumboldtBlue

    Now, no one is ever going to confuse me with a political strategist, but even my addled brain can spot the infuriating and absurd image of the members of Congress ignoring all common sense when it comes to the virus, who will go ahead with their respective welcome new members dinners. All at the same time smart people across the country are begging us to not gather in large groups for the holidays.

    This isn’t just bad optics, this is terrible politics and a fucking galling self-inflicted wound.

    And it took 50 seconds for the comment page to load and there is a delay while I am typing.

  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    What makes me crazy is the people who assume we can’t win the two senate seats in Georgia.  Who cares what happened two or three election ago?

    Georgie got to see first-hand that their votes really do matter.  You think those folks are just gonna one-off their vote, two months later?

  12. 12.

    Another Scott

    +1  Congratulations Joe, and Team D!

    In other news, Nancy at WaMo:

    Pro-marijuana legalization candidates were also on the ballot in several state senate races in Minnesota. Democrats only needed to flip two seats to gain a majority in the chamber but were thwarted in that effort by pro-pot candidates, who swung several tight races to the Republicans.

    The pro-marijuana candidates appear to have been part of an orchestrated effort by Republicans. The Star Tribune obtained a voicemail in which Weeks, prior to his death, said that Republicans asked him to run, hoping he would “pull votes away” from Craig.

    Tyler Becvar, who ran in senate district 27 on the Legal Marijuana Now Party ticket, openly acknowledged his support for Trump and, amazingly, expressed ambivalence about his support for marijuana legalization. Last May, Becvar posted a video on Facebook promoting the Republican candidate in his race. That Republican beat the Democrat by 1,900 votes. Becvar garnered more than 2,500.

    (Emphasis added.)

    The GOP cannot win fair elections, and they’ll keep trying to win with every distortion and every underhanded trick they can think of.

    Someone else said that (nearly?) every marijuana ballot initiative passed. Democrats should get in front of that and help shape the future of how it’s legalized. It’s good policy, and it cuts the legs off the stools that the GOP monsters try to beat us over the head with…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: I don’t see the media saying it’s a national embarrassment and undemocratic, or calling Trump out for not participating in the peaceful transition of power.

    I don’t see anything like that on the Washington Post, and I haven’t seen it linked here.  Are they saying stuff like that on the political shows?  I don’t watch those, but I would think I would have heard about it if they were.

  17. 17.

    johnnybuck

    @WaterGirl: Eh, they didn’t think Biden could win here either, they were wrong about that too.

    Fact is both sides attracted a lot of first time voters, so it’ll be interesting to see if the magats come out when the big man aint on the ballot. They didn’t in ’18. I think that’ll be the difference.

  19. 19.

    randy khan

    @WaterGirl:

    I think the Georgia seats definitely are winnable, particularly with Warnock on the ballot.  Ms. Abrams has shown she knows what to do, Dems will be focused, and Republicans won’t have Trump on the ticket.  It will take a lot of work, for sure, but that’s okay.

  22. 22.

    johnnybuck

    Anecdotal, but I was at a convention in Savannah (masked up) and several republican acquaintances of mine suggested they voted for the libertarian candidate for President, and Perdue for senate which probably explains at least some of Ossoff’s vote lagging behind Biden.

  24. 24.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @johnnybuck: Trump could motivate his voters if he did rallies for the Repub candidates, but I hope he’ll stay true to form and just sulk. Maybe even sic his followers on them for being insufficiently loyal.

  25. 25.

    bbleh

    So in 2020, we won the House, we clobbered the Republicans in the Presidency, and we can still win the Senate. That’s pretty fucking good.

    No no no.  Because, you see, Dems Are In Disarray.  Ocasio-Cortez!  Spanberger!  And Senate Republicans are an insuperable force controlled by a single hive mind which will defeat all attempts to oppose their will!

    Also, some 60-something white people eating breakfast at an Ohio diner at 10:30 in the morning say they still support Trump!

    Now is obviously  the time for some Serious Soul-Searching by Democrats, to determine how they can most effectively Reach Across The Aisle and achieve a Grand Compromise.  It may in fact already be too late for the Biden Administration, which clearly has not got out of the starting gate the way many had hoped.

  27. 27.

    Matt McIrvin

    @WaterGirl: CNN has actually been pretty good–Jake Tapper has no fucks left to give, is outright calling Trump a liar and delusional and characterizing his position as destructive.

  29. 29.

    Geminid

    @WaterGirl: Yeah, Speaker Pelosi can rightfully say “we won, baby.” But losing talented freshmen Reps like Xochitl Torres-Small (NM), Joe Cunningham (SC), and Kendra Horn (NE) still stings. At least Lauren Underwood (IL) squeaked by.    I can’t fault Democratic messaging too much, though. The simple fact is that trump is an effective demagogue, and he turned out the Republican vote. In Virginia, he got over 200,000 votes more than in 2016. Biden polled 400,000 more than Clinton did, but freshman Rep. Elaine Luria (VA2nd) still had a close reelection, and Abigail Spanberger’s was even closer.

  31. 31.

    Eljai

    But Brian Williams said the Dems got the top ticket but otherwise had a “bad outing” and need to learn “to talk to folks who don’t shop at Whole Foods or plug their car into a wall at night.”  Yeah he really said that.  I guess “latte sipping, Volvo driving, coastal elite” was already taken.  Win or lose, some mediocre white man on TV gotta scold Democrats, but Republicans never have to answer to anyone

    ETA:  The data on his own network’s website doesn’t back up his premise at all, but you’re all smart enough to know that.

  32. 32.

    Cermet

    Exactly what I said Nov 3rd. The bull shit media always puts down Dems wins and spins anything positive in a negative light for Dems.

  33. 33.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Eljai: BriWi’s been making a fool out of himself for a week now with that “Whole Foods” thing. His longer-standing obsession in with the Ford F150 “the best selling vehicle in America”. As someone pointed out last week, people clipping coupons for the Piggly Wiggly Kroger don’t have big, shiny pick-ups that get 15 MPG, though I bet Brian Williams has one for tooling around near the country place, the “King Ranch” edition, or whatever they call the one with heated seats, sat radio and probably an electric lift to get in. And if his business manager has told him how much it cost, he doesn’t relate that number to the average American household income, or retirement savings of the average 50 year-old

  35. 35.

    Yutsano

    Fuck the framing. We won two fucking seats in the Senate! And we stopped an outright majority for the Republicans. We can still get a very slim majority. So let’s fucking do this!

  36. 36.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @HumboldtBlue: every day we mock trump and praise Biden wrt leading by example. Dem govs and mayors all over the country are catching holy hell for shutting down bars and asking people to cancel/rethink/zoomify their Thanksgiving. I’m a Pelosi fan and this is just… bewildering.

  38. 38.

    Triumph

    As a long-suffering Georgia dem, I am taking copious amounts of joy from all this delayed action. By all means, different outlets call it on different days, give me more excuses to celebrate all over again. Gonna throw down once this stupid f’n recount is done with too.

  42. 42.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @WaterGirl:

    I don’t see the media saying it’s a national embarrassment and undemocratic, or calling Trump out for not participating in the peaceful transition of power.

    It’s all I’ve seen on CNN. It’s incredible. I guess refusing to concede an election that was clearly lost is a bridge too far for the people who run CNN

  50. 50.

    Just Chuck

    @Baud: I meant to say it was a bigger win than Reagan over Carter.  At least as far as I know.  A sea of … blue.  The colors weren’t set in stone back then.

  53. 53.

    Geminid

    @Triumph: Georgia Democrats did flip another Republican House seat, the Georgia 7th won by the very qualified Carolyn Bordeaux. Like the neighboring district won by Lucy McBath in 2018, this suburban Atlanta seat had been Republican for decades.

  54. 54.

    FlyingToaster

    MSNBC this afternoon, just before and after the Doltard’s presser, were basically warning everyone that he was just gonna lie; as soon as he stopped speaking, they came back in and fact-checked his ass (no, Pfizer hasn’t gotten a dime from “Operation Warp Speed”, Andy Cuomo didn’t reject the vaccine from Pfizer, and the numbers he was quoting were pulled out of his ass).

    He’s no longer calling into Fox&Fiends, right?

  56. 56.

    burnspbesq

    @Eljai:

    I don’t shop at Whole Foods or plug my car into the wall, and I got the Dems’ message loud and clear. Brian should STFU.

  57. 57.

    evap

    @WaterGirl:  One thing that worries me is that Ossoff got significantly less votes than Biden did.  There were a bunch who voted for Biden and Perdue.   It’s all a question of turnout.

  60. 60.

    Victor Matheson

    Reagan beat Carter by 8.4 million votes, 9.7 percentage points, and by 440 electoral votes.

    Reagan beat Mondale by 17.0 million votes, 18.2 percentage points, and 512 electoral votes.

    Biden is currently beating Trump by 5.3 million votes, 3.5 percentage points, and 58 electoral votes. The popular vote and percentage margins are likely to grow slightly as the last of the votes come in.

    So, yes, big win. The Dems did well and way better than the Reps, but this is nothing like either of the Reagan blowouts. That’s simply not correct by any measure.

  61. 61.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Victor Matheson: There were 3 candidates(Reagan, Carter, and Anderson) in 1980 that received a significant number of votes.  Reagan got 50.7% of the vote cast, Biden got 50.8%(as of now).  Biden got a greater percentage of the vote this year than Reagan got in 1980 against an incumbent President.

  62. 62.

    HalfAssedHomesteader

    Ya know, at the outset I might have been willing to be a somewhat gracious winner for the sake of the nation.  But he wanted to go full-on nuts, so fuck him.  I want him to suffer maximal public humiliation:  He should be paraded down Pennsylvania Ave in a diaper on a leash held by Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton (let’s keep the new President and VP out of it) with throngs of people laughing at him.

  69. 69.

    Tractarian

    Every two years every single house seat is up for grabs, and this year, like two years ago, we grabbed the majority. We didn’t lose anything.

    True – it’s hard to be dissatisfied when you end up with 2 out of the 3 branches of federal government (using the Tuberville definition, of course).

    The palpable disappointment is mainly about hopes for the future, I would guess. Unfortunately, even if things go our way in both the Georgia run-offs, it won’t be a big enough majority to, say, add states or Supreme Court seats (thank you Sen. Manchin).

    And after these results, it’s just hard to imagine Dems keeping the House majority after 2022.

    But certainly, if you told me pre-COVID that Biden would win and we’d have a chance at 50 Senate seats, I’d have taken it in an instant.

  70. 70.

    planetjanet

    @WaterGirl: CNN has been pretty good.  Here are a few headlines:

    “Federal election official blasts Trump’s false election claims as ‘laughable,’ ‘baffling’ and ‘insulting’ ”

    “John Kelly blasts Trump for not helping with the transition: ‘The downside to not doing so could be catastrophic’ ”

    “Joe Biden’s win grows more decisive each day as votes are counted”

  74. 74.

    J R in WV

    @Tractarian:

    The palpable disappointment is mainly about hopes for the future, I would guess. Unfortunately, even if things go our way in both the Georgia run-offs, it won’t be a big enough majority to, say, add states or Supreme Court seats (thank you Sen. Manchin).

    And after these results, it’s just hard to imagine Dems keeping the House majority after 2022.

    But certainly, if you told me pre-COVID that Biden would win and we’d have a chance at 50 Senate seats, I’d have taken it in an instant.

    Why would anyone think the odds of the Democratic party keeping the house majority in 2022 would not be in our favor?

    How long have you been a Republican operative, pretending to be a liberal Democrat??

    Really~!!~ Tractarian, what kind of nym is that>? Ancient Rome, right?

  78. 78.

    Richard

    @Eljai:  it doesn’t surprise me that Brian Williams said that. He’s a millionaire. He’s been around on tv for too long. He almost certainly doesn’t do his own shopping. I wouldn’t be surprised if he owns one of those “cars that you plug into a wall”. What a hypocrite. We used to call him “Shoe Face” because it looked like the dog poo needed to be scraped off of it.

  79. 79.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @burnspbesq: I don’t shop at Whole Foods or plug my car into the wall, and I got the Dems’ message loud and clear. Brian should STFU.

    I don’t shop at Whole Foods or plug my car into the wall, and I tell you that BriWi is closer to the truth than the high percentage of overcredentialed imbeciles among those who post here.

    This election (like 2016) was about one overriding question: status. Mango Mussolini is the hero of all those who believe their American Dream has been stolen from them by “intelleck-chool” lawyers, scientists, officeholders and bureaucrats who sneer at them, mock them, impose stupid laws on them, and tax and fine them mercilessly and give their money and their jobs away to People Who Don’t Deserve It (i.e., who are from other tribes).

    Every time we sneered at or mocked Their Champion – and oh, how we enjoyed doing that! – they only seethed hotter to take their revenge in the one place where each high-school dropout is worth exactly as much as a $5,000-per-billable-hour lawyer with an Ivy League “Maggie cum louder” degree: The ballot box.

    And until the Democratic Party figures out a way to chip away enough of these sullen, resentful people to marginalize the remainder, we will be charging uphill against massed artillery and machine guns.

    Fortunately those of you of whom I post are a minority among Democrats, I’d guess well less than 10% (though you scream and whine disproportionately). The people who actually guide the party are IMO exquisitely aware of their problem, not least President-Elected Uncle Joe, and they will figure out a way forward despite all the noise and mockery from inside the tent.

    (Do I sound disgusted? I sure as shit hope so.)

Comments are closed.